Man I just hit 1415 on my main Pally, and I decided to just invest as pure support to him, cuz I made a new Pally dedicated as DPS using the new powerpass.
Best content as usual ! Main supp pally here (I very like supp build and mostly cuz it is useful in my guild), but since I watch ur videos I tryed a lot of combinations for my second build (yes I have no alts, just my pally and I swap builds so I enjoy it 360° and this thanks to u too). I think the new buff/nerf patch will help the dps build a lot and I tried a few differents build ready for the future. The one I thought and I like the most atm is 1400+ swift 400+ crt, 4x3 engr (adrenaline, raid captain, spirit absorbption, judgment), with all back attack skills (10%crt) + 7%crt lostwind cliffs +15%crt adrenaline , very low cooldowns and max atk speed (adrenaline always up), max mov speed (max raid captain bonus) and no drawback from grudge (huge handicap now in early lategame imho). What do u think?
I think Spirit Absorption is a bad choice for all dps classes because it just utility engraving not dps engraving. and The more you invest in swiftness, the lower efficiency of spirit absorption. I recommended to put Grudge or Cursed doll instead of Spirit Absopton. :)
They should make the Judgment engraving restrict you from using Blessed Aura and just make all the blue skills give very high gage generation so that you can maintain very high up time on Sacred Executioner or even better yet, make it like Mayhem zerk and just always be in Sacred Executioner forever.
This ^ I don't know why they are so keen on not letting paladin have also the option to be a DPS. It'd be so incredibly easy to make him a DPS by changing the engraving like you said... Maybe they fear there'll be less supports, Idk really
those 4:3 eyed motha fuckas should actually think that a 25dps to 3 support ratio would ruin the game and make it a lobby simulator for end game content. they should remove the sup role entirely and make synergies more important and add actual natural healing to the game@@MrWestSky
Thank you for such detailed analysis! I was considering deleting my paladin because I already play bard, but you've inspired me to make him dps instead!
You are the really the best mate! Once again like in other videos thank you what great type of videos about dps pala you doing for us! I think all of us really thankful to TTM!!!! :)
Seems like the biggest issue DPS paladin has is maintaining uptime on their identity buff. That really only leaves them a couple of choices for making it viable: buff blue skills base damage until they’re viable even outside of the buff or increase gauge generation to increase buff uptime significantly, and preferably add super armor to some of the longer winded attacks that are much harder to land due to interruptions. They’d have to be careful with either option though since carelessly making those changes without appropriate adjustments to support spec would just be inadvertently buffing an already very powerful build. It’d also be best if they also went for a QoL change before or after said changes to indicate between things like tank/dps/support akin to how WoW handles specs. Definitely possible, but they’d need to really think it out first. I’d also say the odds are in favor of further buffs and reworks along those lines considering the patch notes directly acknowledged that the intention for judgement paladin was to be a damage dealer, which it currently struggles to do very well
Aye I agree. The simplest solution I can think of that wouldnt compromise support balance would be to further buff the judgment engraving, for example, 100/125/150% blue skill identity gauge gain while in normal state and 100/150/200% sacred executioner duration.
@@bodieh1261 That would be one way to go about it for sure. Then if they were concerned about the possibility of a hybrid build arising they could work out a way to make the two engravings incompatible akin to Mayhem and Berserker’s Technique
@@shiprek900 Or just add to Judgement a deal like with the Gunlancer engraving that shielding to allies reduced by xx %. That would rule out any hybrids.
@@bodieh1261 Dude you read my mind. Before the recent changes I was hoping they would change the damage % on Judgement to 15/25/40 and the duration/generation to 125/150 or 150/200 whatever was necessary.
Great vid, what relic set would you use for damage? EDIT: saw your answer for the same question from another comment :) using the backattack/head attack set.
thank you for all the guides, i am a pally dps from WoW myself and have been MVP ing in NA west server for argos p3 :)! please keep making these stuff! 정말 고마워
I love your guides. I'm interested in including the Holy Protection skill to have a bit more support but I don't know which skill to remove to add it (using your same build).
All in all good video and explaination , do you think it's worth going DPS pally now before the patch in NA or just stick to support earning golds and ready for this ?
Awesome vid. Btw, this presetation encourage me to go forward whith my paladin project : two type of settings. One as a full support on big raids and one as a dps for my solo actions. Just swich the accesoryes and good to go. Anyway, many players judge me when inspect my paladin in a solo stats, but they literally don't understand about paladin as a versatile class. Btw : heavy armor, cursed doll, all-out attacks and spirit absorbtion (dps version) ... These are my engravings. (For now, just legendary harsh oath full set.) I observe good results whith those. I spend points between endurance, swiftness and crit. Decent numbers. What its your opinion about this engravings?
Hey friend! Your videos have made me want to push my alt paladin through to 1370 to fuck around with the dps setup! I've been wondering about the engraving recommendations in the video and which you'd recommend to go for if I want to invest in legendary jewellery but not relic jewellery. So basically for a 3/3/3/3 setup what 4 engravings would you recommend to prioritise in order of importance?
@@ttm1269 Another question! When it comes to the Argos legendary gear would you recommend the set that gives crit rate or still the set that gives crit damage? I'm of the opinion that crit rate would be better for me personally but most dpses already play crit rate and with crit damage we could get a 5 set bonus so I'm a bit confused!
Hey TTM what gear sets are u using ? Mana reduce one ? Also can u show or tell the name of this cosmetics on you ? Specialy the head mask ? Thanks mate , great content
Thank you for your videos sir. When I searched for dps paladin in the past few months, you truly are my savior. Keep it up! Btw, can u please share with us the website used in 6:30 to calculate the skills? Thank you for reading!
Great video once again, enjoyabe, funny and very informative. I just have one question for you TTM. Why do paladins use the Release Light tripot (x/x/2) on their holy sword instead of Condensed Energy (x/x/1) in boss fights? Does it do more dmg with the lvl 5 tripod, or is it used just to reduce the cooldown of holy sword? Thanks in advance. Can't wait for a new video. :)
@@ttm1269 So due to the multiple hits does it do faith gen/stagger per HIT and that's why it is better for support builds? I've not been able to notice that. I use Condensed Energy for bosses and Release Light for Chaos Dungeons/Open World/Trash in ADs since with multiple targets to hit the uptime can be crazy low with that cooldown reduction but I've often wondered if Release Light had any other benefits.
@@christopherjohnson2171 more Faith >> for using Holy aura many times , more stagger >> For stagger gimmicks Support use good utility tripod (release light) because they rarely need dps.
For Holy Skills I was using Wrath of God and Heavenly Blessing but since last week I was thinking of switching Wrath of God for Light Shock to use the Light's Vestige Tripod debuff at all time on bosses. I was training a simple rotation using Light Shock from 6 to 6 seconds that is the duration of the debuff and also is the cooldown of the skill (with cd gems). My question is, is that change worth? I don't know, but I felt a bit more free in this rotation, I lose a 15% buff 8 secs and gain a 10% bonus damage on the target at all time... What do you think about this? And for a disclaimer, I choose to keep the Heavenly Blessing cause of the damage reduction buff that comes with the atk power buff.
I love love love it!! I’m going to OTP Pally forever! I’ve been a OT since release in NA but these Pally vods just make my choice all the better that I did. Is it possible to add your gem setup to both support and damage?? Like a screenshot of your gems or how you get your engravings on your gear.. anything would be helpful. Thanks so much TTM you’re the top dog Pally
Ttm do you think a spec/crit dps paladin have too much cool down time? Instead of spamming all the attacks I would attack in big burst waves and the spec with help with the gauge build. Wdyt?
Hi, TTM! I need your help plz. I would like to know which set to use until I get the relic set? Should I use full Argos set or combine Argos and the news legendaries? I got a 6 Adrenaline - 9 Grudge - 2 negative stone is it possible to achieve 5 engravings with it and an engraving with 12 nodes? If not possible what would you do? Adrenaline 3 - Grudge 3 - Keen Blunt Weapon 3 - Ambush Master 2 - Raid Captain 1? Thank you!
Relic gear >> earth's entropy final set >> two relic (earth) + two legendary (beast) + two legendary (preordained) If you have enough gold to buy relic accessories, you can get 33333. but in legendary, can get only 3333. 33333 >> grudge, adrenaline, keen, ambush, judgement 3333> grudge, adrenaline, ambush, judgement
Will i be accepted into raids as dps paladin? I always hear that running judgement is a nono in raids.. only when playing solo. Is it different now after the changes? I really like dps pala, but always held back to upgrade to endgame since i dont like to play holy knight.
Well, it's about the perception of users and I wouldn't recommend playing dps paladin if you don't have friends to play with. I'm enjoying The legion raid as a dps paladin in KR, but it's not that easy to enter in a party.
Question, you use a lot the Dash Slash, but since you don't need to reposition that much, it stay useful? and for the same skill, why you always charge it completly? I mean, seems to deal the same damage charging it or don't... and the animation is just too long Another question, since you increse your swiftness, you have the risk of draining your mana super fast, so... for that reason I'm using Judment/Conviction runes, but it's harder to land conviction with Flash Slash, that's why I prefer Execution of Justice, so... what is your opinion with this?
1. First, we need to know that DPS skills have tripod named 'Devine Punishment' or not. Basically, Skills Having that tripod are designed to have Very High damage in Judgment mode but to be slightly weak in normal state. However, Holy sword , Executor's Sword and Dash Slash can do stable damage without much difference between Judge and normal state. So, I always use Dash Slash to keep DPS. 2. When using 2-1 tripod (powerful blow), its max damage increase upto 120% according to Holding duration. 3. I think it's OK. but, if I'll use conviction & judgment combo, I'll put conviction in Flash Thrust and judgment in flash slash because I don't like Execution of justice.
Grudge Adrenaline (7,7) Judgement Master of Ambush (12,12) + Relic Accessory In NA/EU, 3333 is still the maximum. When Valtan is released, Relic gear will be available and you can reach 33333.
Do you think even support paladin will go with more Crit stats and dump specialization? Seems to me specialization does not do much for paladin at all.
@@Maitreya888 how is buffing your team mates a waste of points? It's essential, you don't get the damage output, your team mates do which are the real DPS not paladin
I have a little confusion on which path i should take on my engravings, i do have stats split ~55/45% crit /swit, my question what 4 best engravings i should choose, so far my idea is juge 3,grudge(or keen blunt?) 3,ambush master 3,adrenaline 3 (or 1?). My question is what would give me the most damage - grudge or keen blunt?
@@ttm1269 thanks, by the way which is more important adrenaline or ambush master? And what argos set would you suggest? At the moment my crit chance is atleast 30% from stats, 10% from back atacks,(15 % from adrenaline if i decide to use it) and most of the skill tripods are crit rate.
@@pauliusnanukas7183 Adrenaline increases your Atk. Power as you use your skills maxing at 6 stax. Ambush increases your damage by 25% for a successful back attack. Making Amb a better 3rd starter than adrenaline. But ig youre in the highdr iLevel gear then Adrenaline is better since you already have a High Attack power.
@@johnsadventures4675 thanks, and which one, grudge or keen blunt more beneficial for this build in your opinion? Since i know paladin has multiply atack on almost all skills so 20 chance on keen blunt to hit less dmg doesnt really affect paladin, and grudge gives, +20%dmg from boss, wouldnt keen blunt be better in that case?
@@pauliusnanukas7183 I look at it in this perspective, Grudge has the increased damage applied to you constantly, while keen makes your attacks 20% sometimes. So for consistency without much diminished returns I go for keen. Grudge is a great DPS engraving but with your High Crit, Keen is better compliments it better. I would probably take grudge on much higher gear score, one that is high enough that the damage taken is somewhat negligible. On that note after hitting 1370, I would go for x3 Judgement, x3 Adrenaline, x3 Keen Blunt, x3 Ambush Master. You can take cursed doll too for high Atk Power. The Negative in Cursed is not that punishing in my opinion.
Hi again TTM, i have a question regarding engraving setup, which is more usefull, i have jugement lvl 3 that completes my 4 engravings 3333-jugement,keen blunt, ambush master, expert and my question is it better to have adrenaline on lvl 1 and jugement on lvl 2?which on is better in terms of damage?
That combo is also good choice. As you said, If you want to use Judgment and conviction , you put conviction in flash thrust and judgment in flash slash.
For your engravings, you recommended Judgment, Adrenaline, Grudge, and Keen blunt for the first four and Ambush Master for the fifth. Would swapping Ambush Master for Raid captain be a better option? Since we are building Crit and Swift for this build anyway, our swift will be high so wouldn't Raid captain be more effective than Ambush Master?
I want change today in dps …but i am afraid …to many idiots in eu lost ark…they dont know paladin can outdamage alot of “dps classes”…btw TTM what set i need ?
My main alt is support paladin for group content and switch out my skills for chaos dungeons/tower for extra dps but it's still meh because my engravings stay support. Is there a way to save engravings for when I switch to dps or do I manually have to switch the engravings?
@@Robbi00 I use the Alt + E setup, i have 1 build for dps Chaos (AoE), 1 support and 1 dps singletarget build. So that swaps my abilities, engravings, accessories and cards. To fast swap between the presets use CTRL + A/S/D.
Hi TTM, if I counted correctly in the build with flash slash has 19 total tripods that you can level up. Which one do you not upgrade? I was thinking maybe Quick Prep on flash thrust? Thanks for the guide
For Dash Slash, what is your opinion on taking Ruthless Sprint over Finishing Strike for the 3rd tripod? I feel with the amount of hits it wracks up it should be more damage?
Ruthless sprint is only powerful when all attacks are hit, but Finishing strike only needs to be hit once. If you use Ruthless , you will always have to use it close to the enemy to hit all attacks. This will be quite inconvenient.
I'm a bit confused, if I use the summary skills for the build, then I have no room for additional holy skills that "we need to use". Could you make an online build for easy comparison? from punika builder etc
@@ttm1269 i hope so....i have 3 paladins 1445+ and i would love to make one on them as dps just for fun..but as you said half of skills are back attacks and half are headshot....which will make it hard for us to decide which engravings to use and what play style we should follow...cant wait for the patch
I don’t understand why dps pally is so shunned. Even if dps is a tad bit lower, they still provide attack power buffs and synergy so 1 dps pally in a group with no other support would be miles better to have than any other dps class. Am I wrong about this? Wouldn’t a dps pally/ gun lancer/dps/dps comp be pretty good actually?
First of all, the 4 dps group inevitably has lower HP recovery than normal group. (Because dps pally don't use blessing aura. and this also lead to decrease 10% party DPS.) Basically, all supports have two types synergy. 1. Attack power buffs 2. Debuff (Damage from all Party Members +10.0%), but DPS pally does not use 2. This results in 10% dps lower for the entire party. In addition, the utilization rate of 1. and 2. for dps pally is relatively lower than other support because support invests swiftness in all accessories but dps paladin is partially invest to Crit. Therefore, if you want to do dps paladin, I recommend to organize a normal group. (dps dps dps support)
my question is ok...this is not a dps class i think we all aware of that. but after this patch. does dps paladin still considered as dog shit dps class that need to stay away from. or it have somewhat lets say, more of "Avg" dps now that can still be idk, "viable"
@@ttm1269 it seems so smooth on your videos. Mine is literally stuttering everytime. Is there any tips to optimise the in-game settings? And thank you for your answers I'll be checking it in game. For now my build is around 3 engravings and I'd like to try to optimize it cuz of the mana draining
Hi, bro! One question. If I'm using only 4 instead of 5 max level engravings, I should focus on Keen or Adrenaline? Thanks! (grudge, judg and ambush are mandatory, right?)
Hey ttm and dudes, I've been wondering how to do a hybrid build that includes judgement and heals anyone got any tips for that? I already have legendary judgement books btw
Great video, super excited for the changes to come to NA/EU. Honest question tho, is dps pally competitive with other classes in kr end game? I ask because I am a support pally main(1445) with 3 pally alts and I've never felt that paladin dps was lacking at all whenever I have the rare chance to go dps in group content. Yet everyone everywhere constantly craps on dps pallies, so I just wanted your take since you run a dps pally.
In short time raid. It can compete with other Pure DPS classess. (because by using awakening potion, pally can maintain judgement mode during the entire raid. detail info >>ua-cam.com/video/qs08qjJLGbg/v-deo.html) However, the longer the raid time, the lower the dps of the paladin.
@@ttm1269 thanks for replying! Yep that makes sense, it would be tough to keep judgment up regularly for longer fights. At least they buffed the duration by an extra 50%
It is an attractive option, but the DPS will be significantly lower. 2-1 Tripod(powerful blow) increases the damage by !!!120%!!! when its level is 5. In addition, In my situation, +30% critical chance is excessive and inefficient.
Hi TTm, i wanna ask what 5 blue skills would be the best? If i choose 5/3 skill build? And is it worth it to have wrath of god/holy protection/light shock? Or picking only 2 buffs is better idea?
he has to be using minimum 4 piece entropy(17% crit). I too am playing with this build. theres just some things that dont add up tho. with Critswift Necklace/Crit Ringsx2/Swift Earringsx2 = 900 Crit / 1100 swiftness on (100% quality) but only way for me to achieve 950crit/1250 swiftness is with 1 Crit earring / Swift ringx2 / Swift earing / Critswift Necklace. Overall his in depth skill knowledge helped me reach higher DPS tho. Regarding the mana issue remember that in a real scenario we aren't capable of spamming all our skills consistently for 1 minute.
@@TonyDang0688 yeah you are right about the mana issue not being relevant in normal content, my dps is still quite low tho. I still dont got enough crit so i decided to go 1 crit 1 swift earring and both rings crit. ( i play light of salvation 18 awakening). high Tripods are also very important for this build and you need alot of them. Maybe its worth it to play heavenly blessings on 7 and get another dps spell in instead of charge.
@@DS-qg3cd I've made my build and mana can be an issue still. His fix is master herb steak which I tried and barely have mana issues. Indeed you need tripods and gems. I'm running 788 crit / 1288 swiftness with lost wind full entropy set And my engravings are: Lvl3 grudge, keenblunt, ambushmaster, increases mass Lvl2 adrenaline Lvl1 judgment
Thank you so much for another extremely detailed video! I was wondering if you had any thoughts about using awakening engraving for dps paladin? I know you'd have to sacrifice another damage engraving to do this, but could it possibly be balanced by filling gauge almost instantly with Awakening ability, and return to Judgement identity faster for more uptime. Can the blue abilities alone fill the gauge fast enough to stay in identity regularly? What is the charge time like at high ilvl? I haven't tested the numbers myself, just wondering if you have any thoughts about this. I use Awakening 3 / Judgement 3 for chaos dungeon right now and it feels like I have identity almost all the time when awakening is cycled properly with other good gauge building skills.
1. Research on awakening is still underway in Korea. Additionally, there are DPS relic gear sets related to awakening, so we are studying how to use it. (various relic gears will be released at the time of release of Valtan.) and Plus, The relic gear I use is a gear that increases additional damage when a back or head attack hit successfuly, so the overall dps difference between my gear and awakening gear can be known only after further research. However, I want you to know that it is difficult to give an accurate answer because conclusion may change depending on the length of Raid time and the type of gimic the boss has, etc.. 2. please check 09:40. maybe I think it takes between 1m ~ 1m 20s on average. 3. In chaos dungeons, cooldown reduction buffs can be obtained from time to time in the second and third stages, so that will not be accurate data.
@@ttm1269 Amazing! This is more detail than I ever expected. I'm happy there is such a great community working together to do this research. Thank you again and hope to learn more from you soon.
No support paladin was building crit before this patch, and most likely still won't because you're playing support paladin. Stagger Damage is unchanged, since stagger damage isn't related to actual damage dealt to a target.
@@Maitreya888 Actually you are right, the information I had was outdated. Support and DPS both receive this change however, so not much changes in the grand scheme. I don't know if will cause issues with checks, but if it does maybe we can get a small stagger bump in the skills to compensate. Swiftness benefits the long cds of support too much to warrant building crit, and spec has its place for strategic use of your blessed aura to push damage.
10 minutes and you didn't show what I wanted to see, the skills you're using with the points assigned, because you talk about several and don't explain what you're using.
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Sorry, I'm late.. 😭
Man I just hit 1415 on my main Pally, and I decided to just invest as pure support to him, cuz I made a new Pally dedicated as DPS using the new powerpass.
hello question, when will this arrive here on na servers?
Hi man just question plz....can you make vid about your gear and engrv and all the stuff plz ?? 😭
can say how many pointas in each skill and which is maxed? i'm new to the game
Love your content, sir. You saved me when i was in need of dps build to reach the top of the tier 2 tower!
Best content as usual ! Main supp pally here (I very like supp build and mostly cuz it is useful in my guild), but since I watch ur videos I tryed a lot of combinations for my second build (yes I have no alts, just my pally and I swap builds so I enjoy it 360° and this thanks to u too).
I think the new buff/nerf patch will help the dps build a lot and I tried a few differents build ready for the future. The one I thought and I like the most atm is 1400+ swift 400+ crt, 4x3 engr (adrenaline, raid captain, spirit absorbption, judgment), with all back attack skills (10%crt) + 7%crt lostwind cliffs +15%crt adrenaline , very low cooldowns and max atk speed (adrenaline always up), max mov speed (max raid captain bonus) and no drawback from grudge (huge handicap now in early lategame imho). What do u think?
I think Spirit Absorption is a bad choice for all dps classes because it just utility engraving not dps engraving.
and The more you invest in swiftness, the lower efficiency of spirit absorption.
I recommended to put Grudge or Cursed doll instead of Spirit Absopton. :)
Holy shot man, well done video, love it and helpd me a lot.
Take my like and comment , ty for the video and gg on the buff for Judgement
Thanks for watching :)
Man, been waiting for this! Thanks for updating the guide, and good use of the Triforce lol
Thanks for watching :)
They should make the Judgment engraving restrict you from using Blessed Aura and just make all the blue skills give very high gage generation so that you can maintain very high up time on Sacred Executioner or even better yet, make it like Mayhem zerk and just always be in Sacred Executioner forever.
This ^
I don't know why they are so keen on not letting paladin have also the option to be a DPS. It'd be so incredibly easy to make him a DPS by changing the engraving like you said...
Maybe they fear there'll be less supports, Idk really
those 4:3 eyed motha fuckas should actually think that a 25dps to 3 support ratio would ruin the game and make it a lobby simulator for end game content. they should remove the sup role entirely and make synergies more important and add actual natural healing to the game@@MrWestSky
Wow new video for paladin .Coming!!!😉wait for soooo long time
Sorry freind im late 😭
Thanks for watching :)
Finally, the forbiden jutsu.
Thank you for such detailed analysis! I was considering deleting my paladin because I already play bard, but you've inspired me to make him dps instead!
You are the really the best mate! Once again like in other videos thank you what great type of videos about dps pala you doing for us! I think all of us really thankful to TTM!!!! :)
Thanks always mate :)
Seems like the biggest issue DPS paladin has is maintaining uptime on their identity buff. That really only leaves them a couple of choices for making it viable: buff blue skills base damage until they’re viable even outside of the buff or increase gauge generation to increase buff uptime significantly, and preferably add super armor to some of the longer winded attacks that are much harder to land due to interruptions.
They’d have to be careful with either option though since carelessly making those changes without appropriate adjustments to support spec would just be inadvertently buffing an already very powerful build. It’d also be best if they also went for a QoL change before or after said changes to indicate between things like tank/dps/support akin to how WoW handles specs. Definitely possible, but they’d need to really think it out first.
I’d also say the odds are in favor of further buffs and reworks along those lines considering the patch notes directly acknowledged that the intention for judgement paladin was to be a damage dealer, which it currently struggles to do very well
Aye I agree. The simplest solution I can think of that wouldnt compromise support balance would be to further buff the judgment engraving, for example, 100/125/150% blue skill identity gauge gain while in normal state and 100/150/200% sacred executioner duration.
@@bodieh1261 That would be one way to go about it for sure. Then if they were concerned about the possibility of a hybrid build arising they could work out a way to make the two engravings incompatible akin to Mayhem and Berserker’s Technique
@@shiprek900 Or just add to Judgement a deal like with the Gunlancer engraving that shielding to allies reduced by xx %. That would rule out any hybrids.
@@bodieh1261 Dude you read my mind. Before the recent changes I was hoping they would change the damage % on Judgement to 15/25/40 and the duration/generation to 125/150 or 150/200 whatever was necessary.
@@christopherjohnson2171 That's actually one of the options I had considered. Here's to hoping they continue to make adjustments to it
I didnt know my class can do dmg, ty sir subbed for that!
Thank you mate!!!
Wtf, is this really viable compared to other dps? Nice details and build anyway man thanks !
Thanks for watching :)
Great vid, what relic set would you use for damage?
EDIT: saw your answer for the same question from another comment :) using the backattack/head attack set.
3:46 in which order should i get those engravings? judg > grudge > ambush > keen > adre?
Judge grudge adrenaline ambush keen.
@@ttm1269 Oh, so how big of a deal is it if i go adrenaline last?
thank you for all the guides, i am a pally dps from WoW myself and have been MVP ing in NA west server for argos p3 :)!
please keep making these stuff!
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Thanks for watching. :)🔥🔥🔥
I love your guides. I'm interested in including the Holy Protection skill to have a bit more support but I don't know which skill to remove to add it (using your same build).
All in all good video and explaination , do you think it's worth going DPS pally now before the patch in NA or just stick to support earning golds and ready for this ?
I think the patch will be updated before the release of Valtan or release of Destroyer, so it would be better to wait.
@@ttm1269 Alright will farm with my support paladin for now and keep gears that are judgement engravings related
You’re the best
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Hi @TTM! Why is there big DPS difference between this video & DPS Check 1460 ilvl video?
10:26 ??
This is because there is no attack power buff and He is not in judgement mode.
That part is just checking how fast He can fill faith meter.
TTM, any updated video after the update in Korea on january 2023 please?
Awesome vid. Btw, this presetation encourage me to go forward whith my paladin project : two type of settings. One as a full support on big raids and one as a dps for my solo actions. Just swich the accesoryes and good to go. Anyway, many players judge me when inspect my paladin in a solo stats, but they literally don't understand about paladin as a versatile class. Btw : heavy armor, cursed doll, all-out attacks and spirit absorbtion (dps version) ... These are my engravings. (For now, just legendary harsh oath full set.) I observe good results whith those. I spend points between endurance, swiftness and crit. Decent numbers. What its your opinion about this engravings?
oh mah gosh ah lab u. XD
Any ideas for the valtan gears?
earth's entropy
@@ttm1269 all set of earth's entropy or do we need to do 222 gears?
is this only in KR? because all my tool tips for the skills are still the same from skill positioning and also judgment engravings
Yes KR only. But, patch will be updated in NA/SA/EU before the release of Valtan or Destroyer.
Where did you go :(
Hey friend! Your videos have made me want to push my alt paladin through to 1370 to fuck around with the dps setup! I've been wondering about the engraving recommendations in the video and which you'd recommend to go for if I want to invest in legendary jewellery but not relic jewellery. So basically for a 3/3/3/3 setup what 4 engravings would you recommend to prioritise in order of importance?
grudge, judgement, master of ambush, adrenaline :)
@@ttm1269 Thank you kindly!
@@ttm1269 Another question! When it comes to the Argos legendary gear would you recommend the set that gives crit rate or still the set that gives crit damage? I'm of the opinion that crit rate would be better for me personally but most dpses already play crit rate and with crit damage we could get a 5 set bonus so I'm a bit confused!
Hey TTM what gear sets are u using ? Mana reduce one ? Also can u show or tell the name of this cosmetics on you ? Specialy the head mask ? Thanks mate , great content
mask name is 'memory'.
My relic gear sets are that increase additional damage when you success head or back attack.
@@ttm1269 nice and u dont have problems with fast mana drain ? After spamming abilitys ? On bosses ? Thanks for respond mate , greets from eu
@@pawerogacz9726 master's herb meal will be helpful.
Thank you for your videos sir. When I searched for dps paladin in the past few months, you truly are my savior. Keep it up!
Btw, can u please share with us the website used in 6:30 to calculate the skills? Thank you for reading!
Thanks for watching :)
www.inven.co.kr/board/lostark/5558/18595
Great video once again, enjoyabe, funny and very informative.
I just have one question for you TTM. Why do paladins use the Release Light tripot (x/x/2) on their holy sword instead of Condensed Energy (x/x/1) in boss fights? Does it do more dmg with the lvl 5 tripod, or is it used just to reduce the cooldown of holy sword?
Thanks in advance.
Can't wait for a new video. :)
DPS paladin use condensed energy (much more dps)
but support paladin use release light because it can get more faith than condensed energy.
@@ttm1269 So due to the multiple hits does it do faith gen/stagger per HIT and that's why it is better for support builds? I've not been able to notice that. I use Condensed Energy for bosses and Release Light for Chaos Dungeons/Open World/Trash in ADs since with multiple targets to hit the uptime can be crazy low with that cooldown reduction but I've often wondered if Release Light had any other benefits.
@@christopherjohnson2171
more Faith >> for using Holy aura many times , more stagger >> For stagger gimmicks
Support use good utility tripod (release light) because they rarely need dps.
For Holy Skills I was using Wrath of God and Heavenly Blessing but since last week I was thinking of switching Wrath of God for Light Shock to use the Light's Vestige Tripod debuff at all time on bosses. I was training a simple rotation using Light Shock from 6 to 6 seconds that is the duration of the debuff and also is the cooldown of the skill (with cd gems).
My question is, is that change worth? I don't know, but I felt a bit more free in this rotation, I lose a 15% buff 8 secs and gain a 10% bonus damage on the target at all time... What do you think about this?
And for a disclaimer, I choose to keep the Heavenly Blessing cause of the damage reduction buff that comes with the atk power buff.
hello question, when will this arrive here on na servers?
It will probably be updated when Destroyer is released.
I loved the video, but when I use the same build, I end up running out of MP to use skills. How do you do?
I love love love it!! I’m going to OTP Pally forever! I’ve been a OT since release in NA but these Pally vods just make my choice all the better that I did.
Is it possible to add your gem setup to both support and damage?? Like a screenshot of your gems or how you get your engravings on your gear.. anything would be helpful.
Thanks so much TTM you’re the top dog Pally
Please check 04:44 or 05:42
Hi :) At the same ILVL / combat stats / mechanical skill and engraving, would you say paladin does more / the same / less damage than DPS classes ?
in judgement mode, he can competer other dps class but in normal state, less damage than other (about 20~30%)
where did u find the spreadsheet with different coefficients for each skill. Do they have this for all classes? Would like to know where to find it.
Ttm do you think a spec/crit dps paladin have too much cool down time? Instead of spamming all the attacks I would attack in big burst waves and the spec with help with the gauge build. Wdyt?
Hi, TTM! I need your help plz.
I would like to know which set to use until I get the relic set? Should I use full Argos set or combine Argos and the news legendaries?
I got a 6 Adrenaline - 9 Grudge - 2 negative stone is it possible to achieve 5 engravings with it and an engraving with 12 nodes? If not possible what would you do? Adrenaline 3 - Grudge 3 - Keen Blunt Weapon 3 - Ambush Master 2 - Raid Captain 1?
Thank you!
Relic gear >> earth's entropy
final set >> two relic (earth) + two legendary (beast) + two legendary (preordained)
If you have enough gold to buy relic accessories, you can get 33333. but in legendary, can get only 3333.
33333 >> grudge, adrenaline, keen, ambush, judgement
3333> grudge, adrenaline, ambush, judgement
@@ttm1269 Thank you!
Hey can i ask what skin your paladin is using? It looks cool!
Ark Pass Skin :)
Will i be accepted into raids as dps paladin? I always hear that running judgement is a nono in raids.. only when playing solo. Is it different now after the changes?
I really like dps pala, but always held back to upgrade to endgame since i dont like to play holy knight.
Well, it's about the perception of users and I wouldn't recommend playing dps paladin if you don't have friends to play with. I'm enjoying The legion raid as a dps paladin in KR, but it's not that easy to enter in a party.
@@ttm1269 thanks for your opinion. Do you stream by any chance?
what relic/legendary should we get for dps on valtan, and moving forward?
I don't know exactly what they call in global server, Use relic gear that Increases the damage for back and head attack.
What about the card catalog, which one are you using?
What are good 4x4 engravings to go with for now in NA?
grudge judgement adrenaline Keen blut weapon
@@ttm1269 Best set at this level? Preordined better than Harsh Oath?
Do you have screen shot of your skills, showing the amount of points you distributed on each skill?
two yellow skills >> lv.10
5 DPS skills >> lv.12
1 movement skill (charge) >> lv.4
I have total 407 skill points.
@@ttm1269 yeah don't have 407 pts. So I figured out the points a little. Thank you. Your videos have been so helpful.
Question, you use a lot the Dash Slash, but since you don't need to reposition that much, it stay useful? and for the same skill, why you always charge it completly? I mean, seems to deal the same damage charging it or don't... and the animation is just too long
Another question, since you increse your swiftness, you have the risk of draining your mana super fast, so... for that reason I'm using Judment/Conviction runes, but it's harder to land conviction with Flash Slash, that's why I prefer Execution of Justice, so... what is your opinion with this?
1. First, we need to know that DPS skills have tripod named 'Devine Punishment' or not.
Basically, Skills Having that tripod are designed to have Very High damage in Judgment mode but to be slightly weak in normal state.
However, Holy sword , Executor's Sword and Dash Slash can do stable damage without much difference between Judge and normal state.
So, I always use Dash Slash to keep DPS.
2. When using 2-1 tripod (powerful blow), its max damage increase upto 120% according to Holding duration.
3. I think it's OK.
but, if I'll use conviction & judgment combo, I'll put conviction in Flash Thrust and judgment in flash slash because I don't like Execution of justice.
is this for Lost ark Europa too?
Not yet
How are your stats engravings distributed among your stone and accessories. Which engravings are you taking to hit that?
Grudge Adrenaline (7,7)
Judgement Master of Ambush (12,12)
+ Relic Accessory
In NA/EU, 3333 is still the maximum. When Valtan is released, Relic gear will be available and you can reach 33333.
What do you hink about Awakening as a 5th engraving for longer fights instead of Adrenaline?
what set recommend for paladin 1370 ? solar or lunar for DPS??
preordained argos gear set
Do you think even support paladin will go with more Crit stats and dump specialization?
Seems to me specialization does not do much for paladin at all.
u dont put crit on support paladin. I highly recommend Swiftness > Specialization
It improves Holy Aura which is a must have.
@@redstoppem1821 it only improves the damage output During aura. Pretty useless and waste of points in my opinion.
@@Maitreya888 how is buffing your team mates a waste of points? It's essential, you don't get the damage output, your team mates do which are the real DPS not paladin
You never ever want to put points in crit unless you're running solo content you want it in either spec or swiftness and nothing else.
Is it not advisable to use cursed doll for DPS pally?
You can use it. cursed doll is also good engraving.
Hello TMM - Thank you for this detailed breakdown! Do you think now DPS Pallies can carry on Raids now for lower players?
I have a little confusion on which path i should take on my engravings, i do have stats split ~55/45% crit /swit, my question what 4 best engravings i should choose, so far my idea is juge 3,grudge(or keen blunt?) 3,ambush master 3,adrenaline 3 (or 1?).
My question is what would give me the most damage - grudge or keen blunt?
Grudge judge adrenaline ambush .
Grudge is the best DPS engraving.
@@ttm1269 thanks, by the way which is more important adrenaline or ambush master? And what argos set would you suggest? At the moment my crit chance is atleast 30% from stats, 10% from back atacks,(15 % from adrenaline if i decide to use it) and most of the skill tripods are crit rate.
@@pauliusnanukas7183 Adrenaline increases your Atk. Power as you use your skills maxing at 6 stax. Ambush increases your damage by 25% for a successful back attack. Making Amb a better 3rd starter than adrenaline. But ig youre in the highdr iLevel gear then Adrenaline is better since you already have a High Attack power.
@@johnsadventures4675 thanks, and which one, grudge or keen blunt more beneficial for this build in your opinion? Since i know paladin has multiply atack on almost all skills so 20 chance on keen blunt to hit less dmg doesnt really affect paladin, and grudge gives, +20%dmg from boss, wouldnt keen blunt be better in that case?
@@pauliusnanukas7183 I look at it in this perspective, Grudge has the increased damage applied to you constantly, while keen makes your attacks 20% sometimes. So for consistency without much diminished returns I go for keen. Grudge is a great DPS engraving but with your High Crit, Keen is better compliments it better. I would probably take grudge on much higher gear score, one that is high enough that the damage taken is somewhat negligible. On that note after hitting 1370, I would go for x3 Judgement, x3 Adrenaline, x3 Keen Blunt, x3 Ambush Master. You can take cursed doll too for high Atk Power. The Negative in Cursed is not that punishing in my opinion.
Hi again TTM, i have a question regarding engraving setup, which is more usefull, i have jugement lvl 3 that completes my 4 engravings 3333-jugement,keen blunt, ambush master, expert and my question is it better to have adrenaline on lvl 1 and jugement on lvl 2?which on is better in terms of damage?
If you already have more than 70% of crit chance, it's better to use lv3 judgment.
Thoughts on Judgment and Conviction runes for mp restoration and cd reduction? I'm testing them on flash slash and flash thrust with mild success.
That combo is also good choice. As you said, If you want to use Judgment and conviction , you put conviction in flash thrust and judgment in flash slash.
can i ask is this on NA/w version?
yes,
please check 2022 05 18 patch note. www.playlostark.com/en-us/news/articles/may-2022-release-notes
I wish they keep buffing DPS Paladin to at least be viable. Also, I'm having problems with mana on Paladin, any tip you can give?
For your engravings, you recommended Judgment, Adrenaline, Grudge, and Keen blunt for the first four and Ambush Master for the fifth. Would swapping Ambush Master for Raid captain be a better option? Since we are building Crit and Swift for this build anyway, our swift will be high so wouldn't Raid captain be more effective than Ambush Master?
ambush is better and easy and more powerful.
Raid captain can achieve maximum efficiency only when the move speed is +45%.
45%
I want change today in dps …but i am afraid …to many idiots in eu lost ark…they dont know paladin can outdamage alot of “dps classes”…btw TTM what set i need ?
relic ? earth's entropy
@@ttm1269 i am 1407 ilvl 😂 so the one chosen ..harsh or preordinated ?
well so this a buff patch for dps pally
My main alt is support paladin for group content and switch out my skills for chaos dungeons/tower for extra dps but it's still meh because my engravings stay support. Is there a way to save engravings for when I switch to dps or do I manually have to switch the engravings?
Is there no 'Preset Change' yet? It's a function that allows you to change the setting conveniently. (You can use it by pressing Alt + E)
@@ttm1269 I've seen nothing like that I'll give it a try tomorrow thanks!
@@Robbi00 I use the Alt + E setup, i have 1 build for dps Chaos (AoE), 1 support and 1 dps singletarget build. So that swaps my abilities, engravings, accessories and cards. To fast swap between the presets use CTRL + A/S/D.
Wouldnt Raid captain be op in builds with lots of swiftness?
Hi TTM, if I counted correctly in the build with flash slash has 19 total tripods that you can level up. Which one do you not upgrade? I was thinking maybe Quick Prep on flash thrust? Thanks for the guide
I don't upgrade flash slash first tripod that increases crit chance.
and as you said, don't upgrade quick prep on flash thrust too. :)
what gear set for dps pala? Preordained?
No, Relic gear set.
Relic gear will come with the release date of the Valtan.
When we get valtan relic sets, which one do you recommend?
I don't know exactly what the official English name is, but I'm currently using a gear that increases damage to the back and head attack.
@@ttm1269 Thank you!
What relic set is good for dmg paladin ?
For Dash Slash, what is your opinion on taking Ruthless Sprint over Finishing Strike for the 3rd tripod? I feel with the amount of hits it wracks up it should be more damage?
Ruthless sprint is only powerful when all attacks are hit, but Finishing strike only needs to be hit once.
If you use Ruthless , you will always have to use it close to the enemy to hit all attacks.
This will be quite inconvenient.
I'm a bit confused, if I use the summary skills for the build, then I have no room for additional holy skills that "we need to use".
Could you make an online build for easy comparison? from punika builder etc
what relic set do you use ? Earth's entropy ? how do you not get mp problems?
What do you think with switch Adrenalin for precise dagger?
He, can you make please build on website ? Lostarktree :) and i cant found which gem can i use :) thank you very much
please check 04:43 , 05:43
Hi, what relic gear is best for DPS pally? 6 Nightmare? 6 Entropy? 4 Nightmare + 2 Entropy/Dominion?
sadly they still didnt change the headshot attacks into back attacks in russian server :(
I think This patch will be updated in Russia soon!
@@ttm1269 i hope so....i have 3 paladins 1445+ and i would love to make one on them as dps just for fun..but as you said half of skills are back attacks and half are headshot....which will make it hard for us to decide which engravings to use and what play style we should follow...cant wait for the patch
which skill would you switch to use holy protection and execution of justice?
heavenly blessing Holy protection
Flash Slash execution of justice
Hello, do you think spirit absorption is also good? thanks
I don’t understand why dps pally is so shunned. Even if dps is a tad bit lower, they still provide attack power buffs and synergy so 1 dps pally in a group with no other support would be miles better to have than any other dps class. Am I wrong about this? Wouldn’t a dps pally/ gun lancer/dps/dps comp be pretty good actually?
thats what bizzare to me, paladin and bard attack power buff stacks.. lol, people just like to cry for shield thats all
@@landkart7233 but even then, dps pally can still take the shield for minimal dps loss
@@Bobbysmith54999 but u were talking about synergy and buff bro, yes bard attack power buff and pally attack power buff stacks
First of all, the 4 dps group inevitably has lower HP recovery than normal group.
(Because dps pally don't use blessing aura. and this also lead to decrease 10% party DPS.)
Basically, all supports have two types synergy. 1. Attack power buffs 2. Debuff (Damage from all Party Members +10.0%), but DPS pally does not use 2.
This results in 10% dps lower for the entire party.
In addition, the utilization rate of 1. and 2. for dps pally is relatively lower than other support because support invests swiftness in all accessories but dps paladin is partially invest to Crit.
Therefore, if you want to do dps paladin, I recommend to organize a normal group.
(dps dps dps support)
@@ttm1269 yes my group are usually, me(dps pally) , dps, dps and a bard
What is your move/attack speed with this build? I'm at 140% and you seem right there with me.
Please check 03:14. There must be a difference. :)
What does your skill bar actually look like though ? There isn't a single spot in the video where we can actually see your skills list, bar etc
my question is ok...this is not a dps class i think we all aware of that. but after this patch. does dps paladin still considered as dog shit dps class that need to stay away from. or it have somewhat lets say, more of "Avg" dps now that can still be idk, "viable"
Btw what's your computer setup ? CGU and CPU ? Is this only for KR servers right?
GEFORCE GTX 1080
Ryzen 5 1600
yes this is for KR servers yet. maybe patch will be update in na/eu before valtan release.
@@ttm1269 it seems so smooth on your videos. Mine is literally stuttering everytime. Is there any tips to optimise the in-game settings? And thank you for your answers I'll be checking it in game. For now my build is around 3 engravings and I'd like to try to optimize it cuz of the mana draining
Hi, bro! One question. If I'm using only 4 instead of 5 max level engravings, I should focus on Keen or Adrenaline? Thanks! (grudge, judg and ambush are mandatory, right?)
Bro where is that skin from?
Hey ttm and dudes, I've been wondering how to do a hybrid build that includes judgement and heals anyone got any tips for that? I already have legendary judgement books btw
question did you go for 6 set earth entropy or you go for 4 earth entropy 2 yearing?
Great video, super excited for the changes to come to NA/EU. Honest question tho, is dps pally competitive with other classes in kr end game?
I ask because I am a support pally main(1445) with 3 pally alts and I've never felt that paladin dps was lacking at all whenever I have the rare chance to go dps in group content. Yet everyone everywhere constantly craps on dps pallies, so I just wanted your take since you run a dps pally.
In short time raid. It can compete with other Pure DPS classess.
(because by using awakening potion, pally can maintain judgement mode during the entire raid. detail info >>ua-cam.com/video/qs08qjJLGbg/v-deo.html)
However, the longer the raid time, the lower the dps of the paladin.
@@ttm1269 thanks for replying! Yep that makes sense, it would be tough to keep judgment up regularly for longer fights. At least they buffed the duration by an extra 50%
What card set(s) do you use?
Light of Salvation (Lv.18)
@@ttm1269 tyvm! :)
Opinion using the +30%Crit/+AtkSpd tripod for Dash Slash? I like it mainly to keep Adrenaline stacks up more reliably and have a faster rotation.
It is an attractive option, but the DPS will be significantly lower. 2-1 Tripod(powerful blow) increases the damage by !!!120%!!! when its level is 5. In addition, In my situation, +30% critical chance is excessive and inefficient.
Hi TTm, i wanna ask what 5 blue skills would be the best? If i choose 5/3 skill build? And is it worth it to have wrath of god/holy protection/light shock? Or picking only 2 buffs is better idea?
mana is a big problem for me on dps pala. even with judgement .
'Master's herb meal' will be solution.
hi, when im testing the build i do run out of mana in no time, do you play nightmare set against this issue or did i overlook something?
he has to be using minimum 4 piece entropy(17% crit). I too am playing with this build.
theres just some things that dont add up tho.
with Critswift Necklace/Crit Ringsx2/Swift Earringsx2 = 900 Crit / 1100 swiftness on (100% quality)
but only way for me to achieve 950crit/1250 swiftness is with 1 Crit earring / Swift ringx2 / Swift earing / Critswift Necklace.
Overall his in depth skill knowledge helped me reach higher DPS tho.
Regarding the mana issue remember that in a real scenario we aren't capable of spamming all our skills consistently for 1 minute.
@@TonyDang0688 yeah you are right about the mana issue not being relevant in normal content, my dps is still quite low tho. I still dont got enough crit so i decided to go 1 crit 1 swift earring and both rings crit. ( i play light of salvation 18 awakening). high Tripods are also very important for this build and you need alot of them. Maybe its worth it to play heavenly blessings on 7 and get another dps spell in instead of charge.
@@DS-qg3cd I've made my build and mana can be an issue still. His fix is master herb steak which I tried and barely have mana issues.
Indeed you need tripods and gems.
I'm running 788 crit / 1288 swiftness with lost wind full entropy set
And my engravings are:
Lvl3 grudge, keenblunt, ambushmaster, increases mass
Lvl2 adrenaline
Lvl1 judgment
what set is he using?
Thank you so much for another extremely detailed video! I was wondering if you had any thoughts about using awakening engraving for dps paladin? I know you'd have to sacrifice another damage engraving to do this, but could it possibly be balanced by filling gauge almost instantly with Awakening ability, and return to Judgement identity faster for more uptime.
Can the blue abilities alone fill the gauge fast enough to stay in identity regularly? What is the charge time like at high ilvl?
I haven't tested the numbers myself, just wondering if you have any thoughts about this. I use Awakening 3 / Judgement 3 for chaos dungeon right now and it feels like I have identity almost all the time when awakening is cycled properly with other good gauge building skills.
1. Research on awakening is still underway in Korea.
Additionally, there are DPS relic gear sets related to awakening, so we are studying how to use it. (various relic gears will be released at the time of release of Valtan.)
and Plus, The relic gear I use is a gear that increases additional damage when a back or head attack hit successfuly, so the overall dps difference between my gear and awakening gear can be known only after further research.
However, I want you to know that it is difficult to give an accurate answer because conclusion may change depending on the length of Raid time and the type of gimic the boss has, etc..
2. please check 09:40. maybe I think it takes between 1m ~ 1m 20s on average.
3. In chaos dungeons, cooldown reduction buffs can be obtained from time to time in the second and third stages, so that will not be accurate data.
@@ttm1269 Amazing! This is more detail than I ever expected. I'm happy there is such a great community working together to do this research. Thank you again and hope to learn more from you soon.
Yes. Dps pala incoming haha
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first
Thanks :)
This is also an indirect nerf to support paladin. Since support paladin has no Crit so will do less damage and less stagger damage also.
No support paladin was building crit before this patch, and most likely still won't because you're playing support paladin. Stagger Damage is unchanged, since stagger damage isn't related to actual damage dealt to a target.
@@griever1823 stagger damage is lowered because its no longer head attack
@@griever1823 ya you need to watch video again. Stagger damage is reduce by 20%. Because it's not frontal attack.
@@Maitreya888 Actually you are right, the information I had was outdated. Support and DPS both receive this change however, so not much changes in the grand scheme. I don't know if will cause issues with checks, but if it does maybe we can get a small stagger bump in the skills to compensate. Swiftness benefits the long cds of support too much to warrant building crit, and spec has its place for strategic use of your blessed aura to push damage.
saddly, that is true. 😓
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Imagine use dps paladin
10 minutes and you didn't show what I wanted to see, the skills you're using with the points assigned, because you talk about several and don't explain what you're using.