@@ZReviews I agree, it probably will. I just thought you might like to know that FiiO makes one… but the argument could easily be made that the RM3 should have been included with the R7 in the first place.
FYI - FiiO also sells their own linear power supply - the PL50 - that is compatible with the the R7 (and also the M17, K7, K5 Pro, and certainly many other branded devices that have the same power requirements). It’s in the US$150 ballpark, but can sometimes be found a bit cheaper.
Good luck finding the fl50. Any recommendations besides the one external supply linked? I really dont want to splic ends on it if I can just buy a good power supply in $150 or below range
Ok now I want to get this. I’ve been wanting a music server for my home system for the longest. Especially to use ROON with. If I could get this, hook up my external HD to it and control everything thru an app on my phone for under $1k I’m sold!!!
Hej i have bought r7 as well as ifi midsd signature (long ago)after watching "z reviews" of them, and the products are awesome!! Now I tried co compare witch is best/better and obviously r7 is more all-in-one, and it is burrbrown vs Ess, but what smashed my brain was combining those two via USB(c->a ifi adapter)so fiio is donor to ifi(bass and 3D on) ->balanced to Audeze-LCD3. Zeos can U confirm that is perfect marriage? Or close to it, in budget range? many thanx Luk😉
The best part is-i get my k9 ess and like after about 6 days fiio rolled out this boy, and i was like-alright. This thing is like k9, but better, in many instances. This DOES cannibalize on k9 alot. And it's cost less.
@@ZReviews Yep, and then it will become semi-important to distinguish “K9” vs “K9 Pro”, instead of just saying K9 all the time. Mind you, I’ve seen the new K9 (only) specs, and it is damn near identical to the K9 Pro ESS model. Slightly different DAC (ES9068AS x2 (same as R7, although the R7 only has 1 DAC chip, not 2) instead of ES9038PRO x2), no USB-C connector, a *smidge* less amp power. Really identical otherwise (OK, no gold/silver trim on the knob, if you want to be extra picky).
I understand that with any Android device no matter the original bit rate/depth a streaming service is playing music, that Android limits it to 48khz. So that's what the settings are for in the R7, to bypass the Android limited resolution, which then makes whatever is playing into the R7 bit perfect. The R7 setting regarding DSD, makes an incoming signal, like 16bit/44.1khz PCM, and upsamples it to DSD. If you don't change the stock Android audio setting then the max resolution will be 48khz.
@@anteekoUnfortunately nowadays I find people just aren’t creative especially growing up in a walled garden world and constantly ask dumb questions like “why would I need this?”. Using a stock Android it means I can download any music visualizer app and have a bomb little light show on my desk next to my amp. I could set it next to my computer and have a dedicated listening station I can control to the side while in the middle of a gaming session. It opens up so many possibilities that a dumb box streamer can’t.
fiio makes a power supply called the pl50 3a at 12v, 2a at 15v has all the needed connections for around 120 to 150 i purchased one for my magnious schitt triple stack, unfortunately it doesnt work guess i will have to get a r7 or maybe wait for the supposed r9
Have you, or anybody currently owning and using this device, come across the problem of having a pretty decent delay in USB-dac mode? I got this device specifically because of the different modes and feel kind of let down with my experience of noticing quite a big delay in stuff happening in game or video's and only hearing it later. Thanks in advance for anybody commenting :).
Yes, I have been using it for about a week now. USB-DAC mode does add a bit of delay. The delay is at a point that I can notice it, but not a big deal. You may be more sensitive to delay than me. As a matter of fact, Fiio disabled the Bluetooth when using USB-DAC because they didn't want to add more delay than the Bluetooth might have. Hope this gets fix soon with updates.
@juanmillaruelo7647 Hey I'd love to be able to tell you, but I didn't know they were going to (take a chance to) resolve the issue and ended up returning it sadly. Hope you can find the answer you're looking for soon!
Love your reviews! Value is stellar but sounds like there is some pretty big sacrifices: poor latency and noise floor seem common observations. Latency is what it is but your opinion on noise floor? Anyone?
I really want to get this mainly to use in my vehicle since it have to optical output which I need. Was looking for something with optical output but this is all I can think of.
I love everything about this....Except the DAC chip used. FiiO makes a power supply BTW. (FiiO PL50 High-Quality Low Noise Regulated Linear Power Supply (US VERSION) Apos has this available for pre order and I almost got it because of the feature set but the Gustard X26 pro is what I want most atm. Just waiting for a good deal. Great review.
What amp should is use for sennheiser hd 560s if im going to use it for gaming looking for an amp thats not to expensive been looking at the fiioi e10k is it wort it?
Hello I am very close to buying the moondrop s8 off your review but noticed it's been a few years since the video came out is there any newer one you would recommend over the s8? Would really appreciate your feedback
I’m still wanting to get those S8 some day myself. But he just did this review and it may be easier to get for the moment ua-cam.com/video/Iz5kuNuc9_k/v-deo.html
So sad you can't feed the optical in signal to the optical output signal. Can you feed the coax in to the optical out though? Otherwise the R7 would be perfect.
You said in the first two minutes that you can control the R7 with the app. My R7 and the Fiio app wont connect. Fioo said it might happen in a future update. How did you get yours to work?
Hmm, I think there is a smudge on you lens, lol hey great review, I saw this and was like this is cool little all in one thing, thanks for going through everything, it is really cool, not sure if I need it, but really cool!
Any recommendations for Bluetooth headphones under 250$? Looking at ath 50xbt2, but no one talks about them and regular 50x seems to be the bad choice. Any alternatives? Maybe even IEMs if there is nothing good in on-ear category?
@@ZReviews I've tried both, and I fully agree. Did touch all weird place on my ear, but it was still very soft, so was comfy. Don't fully know long term, as I only got to try them for a bit
There's that angled pad included that can be stuck to the bottom to point it up a little. Could always buy a Kanto angled desk stand too :D You can also re-program the three buttons on the bottom to anything, like play/pause, next track etc.
I have a set of meze elite but no amp. Can anyone tell me if something like this fiio r7 or fiio k9 pro would be good, or should i go with something more expensive lika naim uniti headphone edition?
HI mr Z reviews what is a good pairing for a Low impedance headphone 7hz timeless or Verum 1 some reviewers mentioned that the wrong pairing can result in Hissing Any thoughts Iam just a beginner I just might go with the Anissa Kate: Cum for me made by the maker of the verum 1 MK2 which was the SCHITT stack M something stack with the M something. I wanted to support Geshelli labs family owned usa company but have no idea if that is a safe pairing for Low Impedance headphones not really know what Iam talking about but Iam think Iam asking relevant questions LOL
I can't be the only one who's annoyed at the fact that they decided to put TWO RCA outputs and NO RCA inputs, so this wonderful unit is left with no analog sources to draw from. Big missed opportunity
@@ZReviews The degradation part might be true but if anyone is looking to buy a unit like this, they're probably trying to make this into the main music hub in their house. And people who care so much about their music probably own a few vinyls... and record players only output analog signal A bit niche but vinyls Have been making a sort of comeback as of late. I suppose FiiO is not exactly catering to that market with this unit
Sometime later this year FiiO is supposed to be releasing matching powered speakers for the R7 called the SP3. Also, I’m gonna say the same thing I said to you at CanJam. You should’ve held on to the Q7!😉
They also have an accompanying full sized headphone with a 60mm beryllium driver that they just released called the FT3 ($299.99). I admit to having one on the way with great shame…..😳
❤FiiO R7 --------------------------------------- hifigo.com/products/fiio-r7/?rfsn=3737349.d530b5
zeos i need a cheap maid for my crib
Did you miss that buttons under the screen(3 square buttons)can be used for controls and can be mapped?
@@johnmc3862 Kind of missed. But also I forgot Android Bluetooth remote controls are a thing. SO most of my issues are gone.
The capacitive buttons on the front can be set to play/pause and next/previous tracks rather than standard Android controls from the settings.
I'll dig through the menu again. I thought that would be something that would pop up
I forgot to add - FiiO also now sells a remote that is compatible with the R7 - the RM3. It is sold separately though, but it is only US$15.
Really. I think any Bluetooth remote for Android will work. I am buying one today.
@@ZReviews I agree, it probably will. I just thought you might like to know that FiiO makes one… but the argument could easily be made that the RM3 should have been included with the R7 in the first place.
@@ZReviewsWho did you purchase it from & the PL 50 power supply?
FYI - FiiO also sells their own linear power supply - the PL50 - that is compatible with the the R7 (and also the M17, K7, K5 Pro, and certainly many other branded devices that have the same power requirements). It’s in the US$150 ballpark, but can sometimes be found a bit cheaper.
Damn at that price I'd build my own like I did and get 11 Amps
@@ZReviews True - but make sure it is linear too, for apples/apples comparison.
Fiio k7 is better.
…than the R7? No, I disagree. The K7 is probably better value though (not that the R7 is bad value, it’s a lot for the money!).
Good luck finding the fl50. Any recommendations besides the one external supply linked? I really dont want to splic ends on it if I can just buy a good power supply in $150 or below range
I always love when you use the Neumann NDH 30. They are one of my favourites, though I own more expensive stuff. Thank you for the video.
I took them to a LAN this weekend. So good. And comfy.
@@ZReviews Yes, they are very comfortable as well!
I see two mildly infuriating smudges. So, double prizes?
No they negate each other. No prize.. These are the rules
@@ZReviews 😱
@@ZReviews I only see one smudge, does that mean I get the prize?
I see the smude
Ho Lee Shit. This looks great 🤤
bruhh .....didnt know you are in this side of youtube aswell 😂
SInse when were you watching Z reviews? P.S DO AUDIO REVIEWS!
Been waiting for this one
Ok now I want to get this. I’ve been wanting a music server for my home system for the longest. Especially to use ROON with. If I could get this, hook up my external HD to it and control everything thru an app on my phone for under $1k I’m sold!!!
Hej i have bought r7 as well as ifi midsd signature (long ago)after watching "z reviews" of them, and the products are awesome!!
Now I tried co compare witch is best/better and obviously r7 is more all-in-one, and it is burrbrown vs Ess, but what smashed my brain was combining those two via USB(c->a ifi adapter)so fiio is donor to ifi(bass and 3D on) ->balanced to Audeze-LCD3.
Zeos can U confirm that is perfect marriage? Or close to it, in budget range? many thanx Luk😉
The best part is-i get my k9 ess and like after about 6 days fiio rolled out this boy, and i was like-alright. This thing is like k9, but better, in many instances. This DOES cannibalize on k9 alot. And it's cost less.
There is a cheap K9 coming out too.
@@ZReviews Yep, and then it will become semi-important to distinguish “K9” vs “K9 Pro”, instead of just saying K9 all the time.
Mind you, I’ve seen the new K9 (only) specs, and it is damn near identical to the K9 Pro ESS model. Slightly different DAC (ES9068AS x2 (same as R7, although the R7 only has 1 DAC chip, not 2) instead of ES9038PRO x2), no USB-C connector, a *smidge* less amp power. Really identical otherwise (OK, no gold/silver trim on the knob, if you want to be extra picky).
I understand that with any Android device no matter the original bit rate/depth a streaming service is playing music, that Android limits it to 48khz. So that's what the settings are for in the R7, to bypass the Android limited resolution, which then makes whatever is playing into the R7 bit perfect. The R7 setting regarding DSD, makes an incoming signal, like 16bit/44.1khz PCM, and upsamples it to DSD. If you don't change the stock Android audio setting then the max resolution will be 48khz.
The way they simply grafted a basic android smartphone display to the front of this thing is beyond comical.
Comical but functional. Horizontal is not the answer.
They didn’t, they just expanded the M11 line. This is more versatile than anything in that line.
Android works best in vertical mode. It hasn't shaken off its smartphone roots.
Actually it is quite smart I would say
@@anteekoUnfortunately nowadays I find people just aren’t creative especially growing up in a walled garden world and constantly ask dumb questions like “why would I need this?”. Using a stock Android it means I can download any music visualizer app and have a bomb little light show on my desk next to my amp. I could set it next to my computer and have a dedicated listening station I can control to the side while in the middle of a gaming session. It opens up so many possibilities that a dumb box streamer can’t.
I'm here for the smudge. Smudgefest 2024 here!
*”Phone in a pretty box… A very pretty box.”*
I have a power supply on my K7 and it sounds much better with it, plus it’s like a weapon with the toroidal weight
A power supply?
Thanks a lot for a great review! How is the sound quality of Fiio R7 comparing with Shangling em5?
SO MANY DECISIONS!!!!!!
Smudge on my screen! Waiting for my gift!
More videos with the cat please? Thank you for posting.
I was wondering about the linear power supply, now im going to get it. thank you!
im subbing strictly for your taste in wallpapers.
fiio makes a power supply called the pl50 3a at 12v, 2a at 15v has all the needed connections for around 120 to 150 i purchased one for my magnious schitt triple stack, unfortunately it doesnt work guess i will have to get a r7 or maybe wait for the supposed r9
Have you, or anybody currently owning and using this device, come across the problem of having a pretty decent delay in USB-dac mode? I got this device specifically because of the different modes and feel kind of let down with my experience of noticing quite a big delay in stuff happening in game or video's and only hearing it later.
Thanks in advance for anybody commenting :).
Yes, I have been using it for about a week now. USB-DAC mode does add a bit of delay. The delay is at a point that I can notice it, but not a big deal. You may be more sensitive to delay than me.
As a matter of fact, Fiio disabled the Bluetooth when using USB-DAC because they didn't want to add more delay than the Bluetooth might have.
Hope this gets fix soon with updates.
They acknowledged the USB lag and were going to fix it via a firmware update. If you have done so please tell us of results.
@juanmillaruelo7647 Hey I'd love to be able to tell you, but I didn't know they were going to (take a chance to) resolve the issue and ended up returning it sadly. Hope you can find the answer you're looking for soon!
Good god the smudges
Bad Devil the Smudges.
Both great band names.
Love your reviews! Value is stellar but sounds like there is some pretty big sacrifices: poor latency and noise floor seem common observations. Latency is what it is but your opinion on noise floor? Anyone?
I would really love that this unit has a mic in plug...
Lol. Too specific! An analogue in maybe.
I really want to get this mainly to use in my vehicle since it have to optical output which I need. Was looking for something with optical output but this is all I can think of.
Yeah, I was thinking an iFi Audio 12V/4A Power Elite Power Supply too.
Excellent video - I cannot see how to use an ipad as an external display from the meagre documentation from Fido - any advices ?, thx
Zeos you should review the wiim pro much cheaper product and your phone is the remote instead. Endless Z possibilities and sonos killer?
if anyone in Zios' community knows who Dankpods is, i feel like he is REQUIRED to cover this by audiophile council law.
also can confirm, I now own one of these. wade needs to have this and blow up nuggetphones with it.
I think smudge should be your thing when filming gear you really like
the smudge grew jajaja from the last video
Is is possible to turn the screen off in standby mode like you do with a cell without turning the device off? I'm afraid of the screen life.
I love everything about this....Except the DAC chip used. FiiO makes a power supply BTW. (FiiO PL50 High-Quality Low Noise Regulated Linear Power Supply (US VERSION) Apos has this available for pre order and I almost got it because of the feature set but the Gustard X26 pro is what I want most atm. Just waiting for a good deal. Great review.
Why not use a 12v car or motorcyle battery for some pure DC voltage?
FIIO JadeAudio/FiiO PL50 have you tried it with this liner power supply
Why!!! I wouldn't have noticed the smudge. Now I can't ignoreeeee
WHAT SMUDGE I DON'T SEE ONE..
IF WE YELL IT COMES TRUE
this thing is bonkers lmao
Hey Dude, great review. Fiio are releasing a remote for this unit
What amp should is use for sennheiser hd 560s if im going to use it for gaming looking for an amp thats not to expensive been looking at the fiioi e10k is it wort it?
its like a whole android desktop? external screen? I would buy one for my mom if it could hdmi out right, keeb and mouse or remote
I am so hyped for the r9. At 1500 dollars it's hopefully going to be a show stopper. I'm waiting to see how good it is before I make a choice.
Has there been any news about what the r9 is gonna offer?
Fingers crossed for onboard linear power supply
@@tassadarforaiur just that it won't be released this year.
thats a big hunk of metal!
Regarding external PS, the internal is probably ok, but audiophiles and gadget geeks love linear PSUs, so FiiO gets to sell an extra gadget. :-)
Hello I am very close to buying the moondrop s8 off your review but noticed it's been a few years since the video came out is there any newer one you would recommend over the s8? Would really appreciate your feedback
I’m still wanting to get those S8 some day myself. But he just did this review and it may be easier to get for the moment
ua-cam.com/video/Iz5kuNuc9_k/v-deo.html
It’s coming out with speakers too
This or the Shanling m6 ultra for sound?
Will it work into a power amp as source/ streamer? I mean sound quality
So sad you can't feed the optical in signal to the optical output signal.
Can you feed the coax in to the optical out though?
Otherwise the R7 would be perfect.
Think Ill just get the power supply you link since the Fiio one is not available, can you link me to the exact end piece I need to splice please?
You said in the first two minutes that you can control the R7 with the app. My R7 and the Fiio app wont connect. Fioo said it might happen in a future update. How did you get yours to work?
You need to set up the Server/client function of the Fiio Music app. You also need to either be BT to it or on the same WiFi
Can you review the KLH Model 5? Need to know if I wasted money on mine lol
if you buy a microsd card most of them come with the sd card adapter which you can keep the microsd card in so you don't lose it
So what does the triple plug on the back do? Why does their need to be a 5v power input as well?
R7 vs K9?
i would like to know how they compare sound wise.
Hmm, I think there is a smudge on you lens, lol hey great review, I saw this and was like this is cool little all in one thing, thanks for going through everything, it is really cool, not sure if I need it, but really cool!
Any recommendations for Bluetooth headphones under 250$?
Looking at ath 50xbt2, but no one talks about them and regular 50x seems to be the bad choice. Any alternatives?
Maybe even IEMs if there is nothing good in on-ear category?
Final Audio UX3000
I hope you register that domain 🤣
Pretty cool little box but cheap laptops exist and they have a real screen. With a decent DAC/AMP and you're probably better off long-term.
for how uncomfortable the ndh 20's are, they are surprisingly comfortable
30's are way better.
@@ZReviews I've tried both, and I fully agree. Did touch all weird place on my ear, but it was still very soft, so was comfy. Don't fully know long term, as I only got to try them for a bit
Is there going to be a prize for the mildly infuriating lens hood popping in and out on the left edge of the frame?
That is lens stabilization and an ND filter.. It comes and goes.
Can you use a keyboard and mouse with it? Would solve the problem of not being able to change tracks with hardware buttons/remote
Apparently the 3 buttons on the glass below the screen can be reprogrammed to do track change. Need to set that up ASAP
Meze 109 clone??????? I need a review on that.
Minecraft ost if you want music that wont fuck you over.
To bad Fiio ruined my experience with the Alpen E17. Display burned out and headphone jack fell apart.
I guess a fingerprint on the middle of the lens 😝
Ohh okey,smudge it is 😄
Na it was something else. I don't touch glass. I blame society for being dirty
Very nice pocket sized DAP I see…
C H O N K
@@ZReviews is that an R7 in your pocket or…
@@ZReviews Time to bust out the JNCO jeans
I wonder if it sounds as good as that last Fiio DAP he reviewed?
YES, smudges on lens, one just left of center. also, right side middle screen. OK, prize me!
...hifitommy
Where is link to prize url?
In our hearts
did he say wheres my wifu hahahahaha
It’s an interesting idea but you have to lift it everytime you really want to find music. That will become very annoying very quick
There's that angled pad included that can be stuck to the bottom to point it up a little. Could always buy a Kanto angled desk stand too :D You can also re-program the three buttons on the bottom to anything, like play/pause, next track etc.
Theres a remote available or can Bluetooth to your phone as a remote.
Thats why it’s desktop, you supposed to be on the same level.
I have a set of meze elite but no amp. Can anyone tell me if something like this fiio r7 or fiio k9 pro would be good, or should i go with something more expensive lika naim uniti headphone edition?
Any info about Ryan’s planars price 😁?
Heard final is $1500 with early adopters getting some bucks off. The GOLD edition I expect later in the year and $1000 more.
@@ZReviews okey,I hope it will be successful!🤞
Can I use the android eq app with tidal on the fiio r7?
Where is fiio k7 mate??????
Does it support Apple Music?
Yes!
Looks cool, only things is I would love it more if the screen was slightly tilted...
The unit tilts so that is the answer.
MC Hammers MP3 player. 😁
Link to MW power supply please
I found the smudge
А нельзя камеру неподвижно закрепить? Меня через полминуты просмотра укачало
Why not clean lens once on head?
Didn't notice the smudge. Obv
No remote? Only the touchscreen?
Any Androide BT remote can be paired. So I am buying one.
@@ZReviews Make a review of the remote please :-) Let us know how it goes.
heard it here first folks Zeos likes pulsing knobs
Would good to know that 3w power of the ta-22 is it enough for the argons t60 like on the R7?Somebody?🤞🏻
I think they make them go. I think I still prefer like an absurd 8wpc amp but def an upgrade from low power gear.
@@ZReviews Thank you
smudge is present the entire video lol.
Oxygen won't explode. It will just make everything else burn faster, or explode
Dumb question , is there a analog vu meter display option? If so, im in, lol
Not in the Fiio App. But its android so you SHOULD be able to find one with.
Does it have a mic?
No, nor does it have GPS to report where it is when stolen.
cheese grater
HI mr Z reviews what is a good pairing for a Low impedance headphone 7hz timeless or Verum 1 some reviewers mentioned that the wrong pairing can result in Hissing Any thoughts Iam just a beginner I just might go with the Anissa Kate: Cum for me made by the maker of the verum 1 MK2 which was the SCHITT stack M something stack with the M something. I wanted to support Geshelli labs family owned usa company but have no idea if that is a safe pairing for Low Impedance headphones not really know what Iam talking about but Iam think Iam asking relevant questions LOL
I can't be the only one who's annoyed at the fact that they decided to put TWO RCA outputs and NO RCA inputs, so this wonderful unit is left with no analog sources to draw from. Big missed opportunity
Would you really source INTO this tho? And then it would need an ADC that would degrade it a bit. No way you can just get to the Amps
@@ZReviews The degradation part might be true but if anyone is looking to buy a unit like this, they're probably trying to make this into the main music hub in their house. And people who care so much about their music probably own a few vinyls... and record players only output analog signal
A bit niche but vinyls Have been making a sort of comeback as of late. I suppose FiiO is not exactly catering to that market with this unit
I'm begging FiiO to stop the weird "PO" shit. Just label it SE for single ended and BAL for balanced.
Would love the review of the new ka5, looks pretty good
Ok I know but just a note oxygen does not explode
Had it. Sold it. Sounds like a butthole. Flat bright sound in small soundstage. Only as a transport this unit is acceptable
Sometime later this year FiiO is supposed to be releasing matching powered speakers for the R7 called the SP3.
Also, I’m gonna say the same thing I said to you at CanJam. You should’ve held on to the Q7!😉
It can't do full-fuck without external power. I'd rather just have this since it can't run without external power.
They also have an accompanying full sized headphone with a 60mm beryllium driver that they just released called the FT3 ($299.99). I admit to having one on the way with great shame…..😳
#smudge