Everything You MUST Know Before Buying A Salvage Or Rebuilt Tesla Featuring Rich Rebuilds.
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
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If you're in the market for a rebuilt title Tesla or you want to rebuild a salvage Tesla from the auction there's a lot you need to know. Tesla has changed many of its policies recently and it may surprise you on how limited these cars can be. I still love my 2015 P85D that we rebuilt after it was totaled by the insurance company but it's not like owning a normal Tesla. Rich Rebuilds helps out with this one as he knows a thing or two about wrecked Teslas so enjoy and I hope this helps you out.
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Do you think Tesla is doing it right by removing supercharging from all Salvage Teslas?
_No, someone paid good money to support the brand, and buy a Tesla. Even if the car has been a salvage rebuilt properly, it shouldn't be blacklisted. That said, once the car has been brought back to life the right way(and depending on a person's state laws), a non-branded title may be issued to defray the car from the bowels of Elon Musk and the 'supercharger' (no pun intended)._
No. They are grubby elitist living off the foolishness of middle class.
I feel like it would be in a case by case basis.
Yours has gone through the right hoops that it should!
I think its totally wrong for Tesla to do that. if you get in an accident, would the tesla always be totaled out. because wouldn't the car be considered rebuilt if repaired by a body shop with an insurance claim? and then won't the supercharger not work?
Yes, i think its their right to ban salvaged cars because i've seen some hacked DIY rebuilds over the years. They've already got PR nightmares with battery fires and autopilot crashes. They don't need any more bad press with salvage cars BUT i also think the company could offer owner paid inspections to get access to the super charger station. Besides, its only a matter of time before someone hacks the tesla software and tricks the supercharger stations or people have already cloned vins and are tricking the superchargers. hush... its a secret... If anyone knows if it can be done ,Damien Maguire would know
Everything you Musk know before buying a Tesla.
Good one!!
More like everything Musk knows about you before (and after) buying a Tesla. I’m most disturbed by the remote disabling of features that has been reported on clean title used (and even CPO) Teslas.
Don't buy a Tesla... Pretty much
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Elon Musk already knew he was disable supercharging... meaning the obvious China trajectory crisis data would cause spike on use sale of buying any new Tesla models.
So now here come the re-engineer Tesla hackers to circumvent an null loop to disable any type of communication with the host. However in returns you gain back supercharge.
You've been MUSKed. What did you expect?
The joys of "Propriety" infrastructure. Imagine a gas station refusing to sell you gas because your cars been rebuilt? crazy.
@Adam84 B I've seen Lithium batteries explode so the only conclusion you can come to is the technology is so dangerous, Tesla want to distance themselves from any lawsuit. I wouldn't want to buy into that, even new.
@@radweld Lithium is not the only medium to combust e.g. ICE example ua-cam.com/video/qn_20K2auN4/v-deo.html
Gas stations will only allow you to put gas in approved containers due to fire hazard. I totaled high voltage lithium car is a fire hazard. So yea, imagine that plugging into a high voltage charger around other teslas.
So you're telling me they want you to pay for a feature that was already paid for up front or assigned to that vehicle. Now because there was an accident that gets removed forever? How is this legal?
The same as any warranty with any car the last 100 years. If the car is totaled the warranty is no longer valid. You’re driving a wrecked lithium powered fire hazard and you expect Tesla to say “sure plug your wrecked car to a high voltage fast charger around other Teslas, it’s fine!” Come on use some common sense.
So it’s been 2 years. Tesla has implemented a system to get salvaged titles cars back on their superchargers.
Or you can DIY getting CCS turned on.
So this makes this car pretty much useless...not worth it at all especially with how much you spent and how much time went into it.
Yeah these disposa cars are piss poor built garbage
Pretty sure you can still use any other charging network. Only difference is you have to pay for them.
@@captainplantain6507 not sure, that's not what electrek wrote about
Melche’s Garage not useless, but its value went seriously down
@@captainplantain6507 No, they do not want to make it to be blacklisted only from tesla superchargers. The car cannot take DC -> DC charging. It's stupid as fuck. You are stuck to charge at home from the wall .. max 7kwh or whatever it is ...
Hindsight: Fix and sell the vehicle, then monitor that buyer to see what happens. Manufacturers have pulled this garbage for years but this is a huge one. They should have a reinspection process to allow it back in; and or you should be able to find a local lawyer who will chase after this :) Keep the discussions going!
Why should they give you a service that costs them money? Nothing says everything is free, you want charging buy a non salvage car but dont hold you r breath that they will keep that service going for much longer either.
Seems to take the intrigue of owning a Tesla away.
Especially when Elon really owns it and you do not. China loves these remotely controlled surveillance devices even more.
*I daily drive a 2010 Ford Explorer 4X4 V8 XLT and have a 1976 Chevrolet Camaro with a 350 HO crate engine; I could care less about gas mileage.* 😂
Right to repair. See, John Deere vs. Farmers.
Ifixit says, "if you can't repair it, then you don't own it".
yes all your Tesla cars are owned by Emperor Musk! LOL
Class Action Lawsuit...
It's a shame they have the legal power to do that
Advocate for the "right to repair" laws in your state.
For supercharging? No, that's a service they sold to original customer.
For blocking DC fast charge outside their own infrastructure? Yes. They sold the car equipped with this function and you're not using their infrastructure at all.
This ridiculous "we will sue you if you re-enable it yourself even if you don't use it" fortunately won't work in many countries.
And all of that because this is stored in car computer itself, instead of authorizing car to Tesla server after being connected to charger.
What is with you people and suing everyone for literally everything?
@@SzymczykProductions only way it will change.
This is all very simple. When life becomes less tangible, & more synthetic, control is lost to most but gained by a few. The joy of driving is on the brink of extinction like most things. Appreciate this channel to help me keep enjoying it & learning about combustion engine cars before they become a thing of the past.
This is way I'll never buy a Tesla. Before I spent that kind of money on a Tesla I'll go with a C8 😅.
Needs a manual though..
@@TravisFabel your right. But for now that awesome dual clutch trans will be just fine.😅
Had same after upgrade myself 90 to 100kwh. After 6 months they disabled SC, but you can re-enable it + kick tesla out of car and it will work as long as you dont go to SC V3 (once you kick tesla out of car you will lose SC status,updates,mob app but other people can give you all that)
Welcome to the "throw away culture".
FreerunMediaService the salvaged car still drives and can be charged overnight. Exactly how I would operate the vehicle...
That's crazy I was showing my cousin Elon these Tesla rebuild videos.He seemed to be a little upset
Yes you can take long trips: Use "Electrify America" locations. Tesla removing a feature is called "nerfing." Servicing a Tesla is a lot like repairing an Apple product. :)
Tesla is even blocking this ways of fast charging
Q: What if the car you repaired was your own which you purchased new from Tesla ?
Is Rich working on a hack to allow faster charging at non Tesla stations?
Tesla treats the car as a rolling list of subscription services. And that's a problem for the consumer
Why would they cripple their own cars like this?
I guess they want to control every aspect of their cars and salvage cars could be defective in terms of the autopilot and other stuff.
it's explained in the video
@Adrian sorry you mean demented capitalist. You must be American, unable to understand political terms.
Adrian well if a car has a salvaged or rebuilt title that means it’s broken and ragged to begin with so the chances of it failing are 10 times higher. Imagine Tesla as a company falling just because a guy Electrocuted himself while trying to fix his Tesla. It’s not to force you to buy new cars it’s to protect themselves because they have no way of telling how good your car really is if it wasn’t repaired by a Tesla center. I would imagine the government would shut off your house electricity if you did your own wiring and shit. Dumb fuck
Maybe they could offer supercharging to paying customers? It’d be a win/win situation
there should be a setup on a full inspection for the tesla that to show it has been fixed right or been purchased used from a independent person stating it is a good condition maintained type. so the features are not taken away if there is something wrong with the battery like needing to be replaced soon I would understand the quick charge not there till it is fixed. things like that if it has been fixed all the way around and at a hundred % mechanically sound it should have that feature instated when inspected by them to make sure if there is a problem there would not be a backlash on tesla. lets say something wrong with the wires that lead to the batteries to charge it are exposed don't pass it till it is fixed and stated fixed by them things like that.
moral of the story. don't buy tesla.
Don't buy salvage ones at that.new ones are good
I have a friend who will soon be 95 years old. He was a self-made millionaire at 21 and has been an investor his entire life. When I told him about the Tesla free for life charging, he said
"Look for that to disappear, nothing is free!"It would seem that this may be the first strike. On the other hand, this may be an opportunity for someone to start up pay per charge vending.
Is the Block from DC fast charge at the Tesla Supercharger or at the vehicle? What I’m saying is that is the Tesla able to DC fast charge using an adapter on third party chargers or is it blocked from doing so also?
Put a V8 under the hood! You will have some views! Nice video as always!
Rich DID!!
Could you charge on other EV stations ? Better route planner ????
You cannot supercharge your car because they didn’t super “charge” you. Bring the car to Tesla, they will super “charge” you and then you can supercharge your Tesla. Twisted relationship :).
It's really interesting that the Volt will adjust the cluster readout for winter, but not the expensive Tesla.
Bolt or Volt?
@@mcplutt There is the Chevrolet Volt AND the Chevrolet Bolt!
@@user-mr9uy9gj5l That's why I asked.
@@mcplutt Did you not watch the video? You may not have. Alex said in is video the Chevy Volt has the seasonal adjustment while the far more expensive Tesla does not.
@@user-mr9uy9gj5l I thought he said Bolt :-)
TESLA IS THE APPLE OF CARS, I WAS THINKING OF BUYING A TESLA PERIOD BUT NOW I'M HAVING DOUBTS IF THEY WANT TO CONTROL THEIR CUSTOMERS LIKE THIS
If it passes state patrol inspection after the rebuild, they should allow to supercharge it, just charge $ per kw like model 3's
I know I can speak for millions on this question but I wished there was a company that sells the salvaged Tesla already fixed up n everything to customers who maybe cannot afford the ridiculous price it’s currently marketed as? If that was a option everyone can help the planet heal.
What if:
1) Someone buys a salvage Tesla (without any juice left in the car) from Copart or similar.
2) That someone removes the sim card from the car MCU, making the car "disconnected" from the 3G/4G network.
Will Autopilot and Supercharging still work without the 4G network connection?
No since the cars needs the 4g signal to interpret it's current location so autopilot can work.idk about supercharging tho
isn't Tesla also preventing your car from DC fast charging in *other* 3rd party networks?
I'm sympathetic is a way and not in another, Supercharging and Free Supercharging was part of the deal for the new buyer that paid $80k - $100k for those Model S vehicles in the video. I'm not sure you can buy a salvage vehicle for $25k and expect Tesla to subsidise your driving for lifetime still. I do think they should allow you to purchase supercharging at a higher rate should you need to do a road trip. I guess you there is some mileage (pardon the pun) in saying be grateful you got free Electricity (Supercharging) for over a year in some cases!
At the end of the day, Supercharging is a service provided to customers of Tesla and its factored into the purchase price. When you buy a salvage vehicle, you're not a customer of Tesla, you're a customer of a salvage auction / insurance company and that is reflected in the price.
Taking Back Sunday playing in the background that's awesome
Car companies are figuring out they can turn stuff off on your car. Soon you will have to pay a subscription to use your remote start, cruise control, or any other feature
Someone could probably make a coupling that gets around the VIN verification and report back another VIN or something.
How about 3rd party DC chargers? EVgo has Tesla plugs now. Or through chademo adapter.
Respect the old school TBS.
In an automotive world driven more and more by software and electronic accessories, this is a HUGE pain point for salvage or refurbished title vehicle owners.
I won't EVER buy a Tesla for these facts you've described because the repair anxiety would be a nightmare, especially when an automobile is the second most expensive household purchase after the home. Owning a Tesla of any kind just doesn't make sense.
I also see other manufacturers going in a similar direction with their ICE and EV cars.
This should be brought up to the US Congress to get the Right To Repair legislation to address EVs or automotive appliances as they're now being called.
Sad. Very sad.
Yep, that is very helpful. Now I know I will never own a Tesla or even look at buying anything with that name on it!
That really makes me not wanna own a Tesla at all... There are other options now, if they keep these antics up they may find themselves getting pushed out of the market.
Put a Honda generator in the trunk . Plumb the exhaust outside of course.
It's time for a third party to produce/develop a way to super charge vehicles.
Thank you legit cars
I accidently bought a Model 3 from Copart and I got lucky for the most part, there wasnt too much damage. But walking into a Tesla service shop was like you killed someone. With their God like complexes from the Tesla employees, getting parts and service was less than stellar. The experience was horrible. I was able to Supercharge for 7 months until recently, when I scheduled a visit with mobile service to replace a part. Immediately after Supercharging was taken away. I honestly belive had I not had Tesla service it, I would still be Supercharging today. Of course the tech denied it and said they dont have the ability to do that, but that total bullshit. Anyways, i really dont see myself using Supercharging since I dont really need the car for long distance driving, but it was nice to know it was there. I can get it recertified but I dont really see a need for it. I get all their policies, but there is no excuse for poor customer service.
I see both sides of it, if someone buys a salvage tesla and they don’t do everything correctly, the car might be really dangerous when you go to supercharge. But it’s also really dumb that tesla blocks off every salvage car, there should be a better system for this.
Why wasn't the Tesla charger adapter brought up to fit in Electrify America Charger? It's a lot of money for that adapter.
Elon Musk has subscribed
also they were doing this in the old days.... buying cars actually at auction... pretty nuts this ain't t nothing new..
This is why gov owned(or private) self driving car networks are crazy! One day you will want to leave your house and the “network” will decide IF/when you can based on traffic. 😡
Very informative and helpful. It strengthened my resolve never to buy anything from Tesla.
The changing aspect ratio is really messing with me
That they are tracking you is a given, if you abuse your car, they will know, if you wreck it, they will know. Even the insurance companies want you to put a tracking dongle for a reduction if rates but it can also be used against you. George Orwell just got the date wrong.
@legitstreetcars There's a shop in Ukraine who claims that they can unblacklist Teslas and re-enable supercharging. Look up "Tesla Kiev"
My internal combustion car can do well over 600miles after a "charge time" of 3 minutes 😜😜😜😜😜
Jake Betts Sad thing is Tesla is contributing to the purchase of ICE vehicles with these practices.
@@jamerican347 good electric cars need to be boycotted. Theyre a con a tesla charger is only compatible with a tesla, A vw charger only compatible with a vw etc.
A petrol pump is compatible with any petrol car
What if,
Those who DO get the ‘re-certification inspection still don’t get FREE super charging, but can get a modestly cost supercharging.
Theres got to be a way to beat the system and find loophole with the supercharged and add it back on the vehicle yourself.
You get what you get and you don't throw a fit!
Tesla makes some great products I just don't like how they manage them, it's bittersweet.
Name one that is assembled well or designed for longevity that one can actually own and control without Tesla interference.
We are still waiting. Hello?
@@machtschnell7452 The interface part is correct, but that's just how the product is. It'd be like if you bought a Macbook and it didn't have the Mac OS. My problem is how they use that interface.
Side on this model looks good, there has got to be some kid that can hack the supercharger thing, cheers from OZ STAY SAFE.
Well, you have noted the problem. Now, where is the aftermarket or backyard work around.
I mean, I understand the logic behind that. You can't just rebuild a Tesla from scrap, maybe from 2 different cars for half the price and expect Tesla to enable supercharging for you. Who knows how u built that car. 1 little malfunction and the whole car burns down. And anyways supercharging is just a big pro for teslas, nobody said its included, in most cases u still have to pay for it. So I understand Elon, he doesn't want bad news floating around about home built burning teslas at superchargers. And of course I understand u guys as well, just think a bit about it.
I think you or Rich need to do a more in depth video specifically on buying branded title Tesla's. There are a ton of branded title Tesla's on the market. I have seen dual motor long range model 3's listed for only $5-6k discount from new with a branded title. Why are they still so expensive? Who is buying these that is driving this price, and do they know supercharging won't work for them?
I'd think they could split the difference by charging salvage owners the rate that they're charging Model 3 owners for supercharging -- not free any more. Event this doesn't totally make sense. But I expect most would go for it.
So, I think this is where we in Australia have the advantage over the US. And we need that advantage because our charging infrastructure is generally crap.
In Australia Tesla is adopting the CCS2 charging scheme. This means that Tesla cars can charge from non Tesla rapid chargers - up to 350kW - in addition to charging from super chargers.
Salvaged Teslas can't do that.
Nobody here can tell me the damage to this car here warranted the salvage designation. It had some suspension damage and some roof damage. The car was easily fixed and it is back on the road. there is no reason to block it from any charging networks.
Does anybody really want an insurance agent to decide if a car is worthy to get supercharging or not, because that is what is happening here. As these cars get older it will take less and less damage to total them. Imagine getting blacklisted from supercharging because you creased your left front fender.
Imagine a theft recovery car that had the interior and wheels stolen. No supercharging for you?
I think it comes down to the battery and where it's positioned, also susceptible to damage if impacted externally. So what should happen is the battery packs get examined and given the all clear, any remaining supercharging is honored.
It's like buying a salvage ICE car and it comes with an eyedropper to fill it and no alternative.
Listening to Taking Back Sunday...nice my favorite band
I heard some shops can turn on the supercharging options for a fee!
I think if tesla can find the broken or salvage ones, why cant they buy them back and recycle the cars that way there is no issue or black listing...
Great video, reinforces my assumptions as to Tesla is still too expensive and not reasonably worth the cost of ownership! Long live the Hybrids and regular gas and diesel engines!
Is there a place to look for what dealers are more likely to sell parts?
You mow have a big expensive door stop😥😪
i drove my roadster many many miles with 70a hwpc... get a second charger if you don't have it to give you 20kw charging
If your Tesla was traded in for another one, would Tesla dismantle your current one or rebadge it in a sense to give full capability and resell it?
Thats such bs. The supercharging restriction would make a bit of sense to me if there was an easy way to recertify a salvage vehicle.
This is the reason that i won't buy a tesla! Great content though! Shout out to #richrebuilds & Alex. Keep making awesome videos!
This questions the rule of car ownership- what do buyers actually buy, just the platform without the support? If this is the case, I’d definitely not consider a Tesla. They are not the only ones around. 😉
I am a car person but replaced the 21" wheels with 19" wheels because it would have been idiotic to ride on 21" wheels with our badly maintained streets. Having dumb large wheels that damage easily while offering less range does not necessarily make someone a car enthusiast :)
There's always a way to hack ANY technology. And charging the car high speed would just use high amperage. If I had one I would look into creating a portable home built supercharger system. I would even bet once someone finds the tech specs of their supercharger network there would be a way to spoof their system to let you supercharge. Don't just give up. Where there's a will there's a way.
Was not aware of the massive range drop off on winter !!! I know normal electric cars lose 10-20% of range, but 40% is crazy ! Is this just the model S ? Or is the model 3 affected the same ?
They are all affected in one way or the other. A 10-20% loss must be a very mild winter :-) Model Y is the first Tesla to have a heat pump, by the way.
Gas cars for the win!
North Aurora SC. Not far away.
How about the insurance companies stop retitling Tesla's as salvage. They sell tons of scrap clean title cars in Michigan.
Years ago, maybe in the 1980's people were buying 8 foot satellite dishes, and getting free HBO, SHOWTIME, etc. Everyone kinda knew it was wrong, and eventually they required licenses, boxes, etc. So guys were buying Teslas for 20% value and rebuilding them and getting the benefit without paying for it. Kinda the same thing. You got away with it for a while, but you dont see any 8' foot dishes in peoples back yard anymore......
What a beautiful Purple Z3 Roadster
Hey Elon, you're a great person and an idol of mine. Please do the right thing and allow these cars to charge upon passing inspection. it is part of saving the planet by reducing waste. Do the right thing.
I wonder if they're white listing or black listing the cars and how. I wonder if you could spoof the ID to regain supercharging.
question, Tesla have the lowest rate of depreciation, now that DC fast charging is not available any more, are these cars gonna Plummet in price...?
So basically no point buying a damaged Tesla? Then they should just wreck/recycle them.
If your fine with charging at home like many people do with Electric cars now,I'm sure you'll be fine buying a salvage car.supercharging wasnt meant for long trips :)
There’s a difference between buying a salvage vs a damaged car, as far as I’m aware damaged Tesla’s that aren’t salvage titles are cleared for supercharging but it’s the salvage titles that are being blacklisted
Can you not get some equivalent of supercharging from a different provider...?
So is there any way you can retrieve the Tesla's full capabilities? It's limited because the title is a salvage title. I'm guessing you would have to get it repaired so the title is becomes valid?
Is there no one we can reach out to in the government about this? I mean we pay for a car and I can understand if they said no supercharging for free, but disabling a vital function because they can is like bullying the public. Maybe all of us can do some research and see if we cant come up with something?
Discussion about the wheels was weird. I’m a car enthusiast and I want smaller rims on all my cars. Better handling. Faster. Lighter. Better ride. Less wheel noise. Anyone with huge wheels is Id say is not a car enthusiast just a wheel enthusiast lol
Love this rebuild. However, the colour (Uk) of the front bumper really detracts from the rest of the paint job and an otherwise exemplary build.
Maybe if you have a GPS jammer in the car while going to charge it will work 🤔❓
Could there be a hack that brings back the supercharging? I suppose they are blocking the car by VIN, so there must be a way to send a different vin just for the check?
If the car is properly rebuilt and inspected then why are they withholding supercharging?? wtf??
Buy a Hyundai Kona or Kia Niro. Cheaper and get 260+ Miles. New updated Kona gets 300+