When Wu is dancing he does the choreography of "Who run the world (Girls)" by Beyonce and then later in the episode Kuvira takes over. I'd say that was a great way to do foreshadowing lol.
Korra had two and a half years of compassionate Katara, that's what she needed then to begin her journey of healing. Now she needs Toph brutal honesty and tough love. 'Maybe you want the metal inside you' is exactly what she needed to hear because she hasn't been facing her demons.
That doesn't mean Toph was fully aware of that or that she's perfect or blameless, consider it working out a convenience of timing because it was. Toph would prolly do the same as soon as Korra started trying to heal and it wouldnt have been healthy
I don't think Toph turned away from compassion, but the fact was Aang was a pretty gentle spirit. He needed a soft guiding hand and compliments. According to Lin, Korra's "tough as nails". I think Toph can sense that she's a lot more aggressive and stubborn, and so she opts for a more hardcore / tough approach when helping her.
Toph didn't become complementary towards Aang in "Bitter Work" until after he proved himself by standing up to the moose lion. Korra isn't helping herself so Toph isn't going to go out of her way for her.
I like how Toph just casually says that her daughters, two of the strongest metal benders in the world, never really picked up metal bending all that well.
I mean, she is the one who INVENTED metalbending, and probably the greatest earthbender in the history of the entire Avatarverse (let alone in the world). I really don't think we've seen anyone who can match her, though it would be nice if one of her future descendants managed to match or even surpass her (it's what she would want, for her family to keep pushing the limits).
@@controlman7490 Who was her equal when she was twelve (they duelled once and tied). She would have easily surpassed him in her prime, and probably still surpasses him even in her old age.
Whether Wu is in power or Kuvira the EK is still going to be an authoritarian nation and here's why. Wu is a clown, so he would be appointed an advisor who would most likely take advantage of his stupidity and rule the country, similar to Kuei. Kuvira is smart, but she's authoritarian by nature but would industrialize the EK like never before. I'd rather choose to live under Wu's rule because at least then as long as you don't commit a crime you'll pretty much be left alone. Under kuvira's rule she uses slave labor, so I'm not with that.
To this day I cringe at this line and with the show's trying to want us to buy this, that Kuvira parallel/ mirrors Korra Because she don't. Far from it actually. The villain that better parallel and mirrors Korra is Amon.
I was laughing so hard 🤣 I forgot all about that slap video too. It's not even the slapping itself that's funny. Just the absurdity of it all lmao and that edit was hilarious
I cannot tell you guys how many times I had to rewind because instead of listening to the very important dialogue, I had just been staring at Kuvira and wondering why they had to make the fascist that hot
@@BhBc8f8 No she is Not. There is Not Even a clear Definition of fascim, cause their are different types, the Most popular ones are of course the japanese, italian and german versions. But to call an Oportunistic dictator a fascist simple Byte the Art of their rise to Power is just wrong. Their are some similarities to fascist rulers, but vastly More to every other absolut ruler who took Control in a trough civil war devastated Country. Its Not That easy „Black and White thinking“.
Korra had her earth chakra blocked, this chakra deals with the survival instict, and gets blocked with the fear. She was so afraid and when she overcame her fears, she was able to enter in the avatar state
I love how Kuvira's theme is like a train that's building momentum. In her speech, it starts out quiet and builds on itself as she reaches the end. There's a lot of cool little details in the music this season, like how Kuvira's theme contains a corrupted version of the Zaofu theme, and a bunch more stuff that are a spoiler so I won't mention. Edit: Also when Kuvira and Suyin are talking, it starts with the base Kuvira theme then when the camera cuts to Suyin, the corrupted Zaofu theme is played on top of it.
Palpatine: "The Republic, will be reorganized... *INTO THE FIRST... GALACTIC... EMPIRE!!!"* Kuvira: "The Earth Kingdom is no more. *I have created a new Earth Empire!"* Palpatine: "Yeeeesss, well done *my apprentice."* 😈😈😈
Palpatine/Darth Sidious: Execute Order 66. Various clones like Commander Cody: Yes my lord; Clone Pilot with Master Plo Koon: It will be done my lord; Clone Trooper with Master Yoda: It will be done my lord; and Captain Rex: Yes, Lord Sidious.
Fun fact: where Mako and Prince Wu were eating/shopping, that was in Little Ba Sing Se which is a Republic City, it's supposed to be like real world places such as Chinatown, Korea town etc
The people of the Earth Kingdom love Kuvira, so imagine if Tenzin and the other leaders take her out, there would be an Earth Kingdom uprising. You also have to remember Wu's great-aunt was a ruthless ruler, and his great grandfather allowed the Dai Li to terrorize the citizens so the people see the monarchy as bad.
And don't even get started on what would happen if Izumi decided to stop this new dictator; after all, Izumi's aunt managed to conquer the capital and her grandfather tried to incinerate the entire continent.
The two of them were always at opposite philosophical extremes; they even fought once back in Season 3. SPOILERS and both of them helped the Avatar deal with the other. I actually want to see them be imprisoned together for a bit (with restraints)just to see the verbal sparring between them.
Bolin's statement about Kuvira and Korra being similar is actually kinda scary to think about when you realize Kuvira is what Korra WOULD be if the Avatar were capable of being corrupted by power.
Ya, that's a valid argument; especially after Harmonic Convergence. Yes, Korra defeated Vaatu during Harmonic Convergence, but not before Vaatu defeated Raava first. Korra only got Raava back because neither Light nor Dark can exist without the other. Raava herself said that even if one side were to win, the "loser" would only grow within the "winner" until the day their battle begins anew. Vaatu isn't really gone; he will grow inside Raava, and by extension, the future Avatars. Because of this crucial fact, I believe that the next Avatar Cycle will be just as susceptible to Vaatu's influence as to Raava's. We could very well see Avatars with mindsets like Kuvira's in future generations. Good luck sleeping with that thought in mind.
Can you IMAGINE if Aang had gone a bloodthirsy killing spree against the Fire Nation after the discovery of their genocide and on top of that, learned how to do BLOODBENDING LIKE AMON? Heads would roll and brains be splattered everywhere.
@@thegreendragon5390 On the other hand, that might actually make more Avatars more balanced between order and chaos. Too much order can also corrupt, as this season proves. I actually want to see an evil Avatar at some point to explore this idea further-an Avatar way too focused on order.
I really don think Kuvira and Korra are that similar. Now everytime o think about how Korra would ended up if she was evil, i think about Amon. Since he is the villain that not only is more similar to her but also his path mirrors Korra's path in book1
You know what, I will just say this.... Kuvira... has a point. About the monarchy and Wu specifically. Raiko was definitely going to use him as a puppet and manipulate him because homeboy clearly is not going to be a capable leader. Methods though? Obviously no. Also, nobody can convince me that Wu + Mako wouldn't be a perfect ship hahahaha, I love their dynamic :D
A common them with this show is that the villains all have valid points/ideals but they carry them to the extreme Imo Kuvira is the BEST example of this and that's a big part of why she's my fave villain Also team wuko ftw 😍
@@byronstone386 Agree with everything. Only exception to it is probably season 2. But yeah. Kuvira is my fave villain for the same reason! Team Wuko! :D
One line Kuvira said to Suyin: “I provide stability and equality.” Isn’t that the Avatar’s job? Basically I think that line shows why she’s a foil to Korra and hence similar to her
Indeed. The world was descending into chaos while Korra was gone. In order to fix it, Kuvira had to make some tough decisions. No one else was able or willing to do so, so Kuvira alone took it upon herself to be the one to "fix" the world, which is what Kuvira meant when she said: *_"I stepped UP."_*
@@TheGreater-ScopeVillain while I may disagree with Kuvira down the line, I defend her decision to leave Su and save the Earth Kingdom whole heartedly. Su claims she refused because she didn’t want to impose her ideology on the rest of the Earth Kingdom but rescuing Ba Sing se and the other provinces doesn’t need that. They can be liberated (rather than subjugated which admittedly is where Kuvira falls short though she believes it’s for the betterment of the nation). I honestly think Su is lying to herself and others, simply wanting to hide away in her city and pretending like she doesn’t owe anyone anything.
@@soulstealer5625 ohh please, Su clearly didn't help because she knew that if the Earth Kingdom was fully stabilized she would lose the illegal autonomy of Zaofu that was a prodact of the mismanaged bureaucracy of the central government. She preferred to be her own Queen on her shine city and let all other Earth kingdom citizens to suffer. The ideology thing was bullshit. She could easily stabilize the Earth Kingdom and give power back to the central government with out imposing her ideology to the nation. But instead she would rather let's people suffer.
I loved that Kuvira crushed the Kyoshi Medal of Honor, because Kuvira is so similar to Chin the Conqueror, the person Kyoshi fought against. Like Kuvira, Chin also went on a campaign to unite the Earth Kingdom in a state of disarray, opposing the unpopular monarchy, and gaining popularity among the people. History repeats itself, and once again the debate props up, what should the Avatar's role be in such a complicated situation.
Kuvira: *_"The dark side of the spirit force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be... unnatural."_* SPOILERS below: Kuvira: *_"Now witness the firepower of this fully armed and operational spirit energy cannon!"_*
Kuvira: *_"Avatar Kyoshi, you are interfering in internal Earth Empire business, and letting your PERSONAL feelings get in the way of reason."_* *_"I will fight the Avatar one-on-one. Kyoshi, if you win, then you can do whatever you want with the world. But after I BEAT you, I want you out of my business for good. I'M the one who brought peace to the Earth Empire, NOT you. You're not relevant here anymore."_* *_"Use whatever you want. All the elements, the Avatar State, anything you need! I know you're a little rusty."_*
We really didn’t know Kuvira before to know that she had this in her. Zuko is sitting next to his daughter, Fire Lord Izumi. One of the bad things rewatching this season is seeing Wu being super annoying.
From someone that has been in and out of mental health institutions, people that have Toph’s mentality are often better at helping people with mental illness that have been suffering for a while and don’t know what to do anymore. The tough “enough is enough” mentality is often ignored for being too aggressive but sometimes someone doesn’t like being cared for and babied for extended periods of time
So proud of you guys for accomplishing something so insanely difficult! Just remember that you’ve both done something that many many people can’t say they have! You guys should feel great about what you’ve accomplished!
unlike zuko and katara who have changed a lot, I like how toph is the still the exact same even after all these years. And the voice actress for old toph does a great job, it's just how you would imagine toph as an old lady.
@@Eman-vp6ju One aspect where she could have changed (for the worse) is combat, as we never see her fight this time. Though granted, she’s in her late 80s in Season 1, which is older than most of the old masters in the previous show. So she was probably still the badass we know back in her 60s-early 70s.
Learning Montana was also homeschooled helps me to not feel so awkward. I was as well, and people can't tell, but when I bring it up there's always that 'Oh'. Kind of having a representation and just a 'yeah so what' is so niiiiice.
Such a cool thought @13:57 about how her enlightenment included the combination of her seismic sense with the connection via the vines and the Swamp Sage’s understanding of the connection of all things.
I mean Kyoshi is a staunch monarchist and Kuvira sees herself as relaxing the need for the Avatar giving it was her who sorted out the Earth kingdom mess.
Many people will gladly give up a portion of freedom in exchange for security. After all, isn't that what society is? A social exchange? With Kuvira, she offers complete safety and security in exchange for complete and absolute submission to her rule, as she believes that she is the most capable (or perhaps the _only_ one capable) of upholding that peaceful society.
@@TheGreater-ScopeVillain what amuses me is the criticism that Kuvira is a dictator... then turning around and offering Wu as the other candidate, a man out of his depth but appointed to a position of what was autocratic power. Sounds like they intended to castrate the power of king and move it to constitutional
@@controlman7490 at this point in the season yeah, but it gets better! In any case I'm not too invested in the ship haha, I just think it would be cute. Also significant mlm rep is practically non-existent in Western animation, so I'm a little desperate 🥲
Your comment with Kuvira and Amon being the only antagonists seen as heroes and with significant support is actually completely untrue because every single main antagonist from every book had significant support wether out in the open (The Red lotus members are the only ones that were hidden for obvious reasons). Amon had the equalists, Unalaq had the entire north army, Zaheer with the entire Red Lotus, and obviously now Kuvira with her Empire. It was even the same with Ozai who had the whole fire nation backing him and seeing him as the hero. It's a common and consistent trope in this world
Toph is compassionate on her terms and to the people she chooses to be compassionate to. Aang was the exception to the rule of Tough Love Toph™. It wasn't her changing who she is, just her being accommodating to the needs of one person she cares a lot about - Just like he was accommodating to her and her needs.
Happy birthday Montana!!! This is one of my favorite youtube channels! I hope you celebrate your birthday with grace and happiness! Cheers to 1 more year!❤🎉🎁
to quote from the song "Garden Party" - "When I got to the garden party, They all knew my name, But no one recognized me, Guess I didn't look the same..."
Ngl, I feel like Kyoshi would try to kill Kuvira on sight. Kuvira parallels Chin the Conqueror really well and we all know how Kyoshi feels about tyrants.
Kuvira: *_"Avatar Kyoshi, you are interfering in internal Earth Empire business, and letting your PERSONAL feelings get in the way of reason."_* *_"I will fight the Avatar one-on-one. Kyoshi, if you win, then you can do whatever you want with the world. But after I BEAT you, I want you out of my business for good. I'M the one who brought peace to the Earth Empire, NOT you. You're not relevant here anymore."_* *_"Use whatever you want. All the elements, the Avatar State, anything you need! I know you're a little rusty."_*
the animators knew what they were doing with kuvira lmao edit: also, she commands the military might of the entire earth kingdom... emm, i mean, earth empire... which is the biggest region in the avatar universe by far, the air nation seems to have hundreds of members at most, and zaufou is just one little city, i dont think these groups could really stand against kuvira in a full on military conflict, plus, she has the support of the people and the final point, she is actually a really elite metal bender, in a one v one fight she could give 99% of people in this universe a good fight i think
Indeed. I've always viewed Kuvira as the most skilled metalbender, at least in terms of combat. Unlike _any_ of the Beifongs, Kuvira has trained her entire life to master metalbending in the ways of the warrior, and invented her own effective style of metalbending now used by the soldiers of her empire. One v one, Kuvira can indeed take on pretty much anyone in the Avatar universe. She can definitely beat old-Toph, and has a good shot at beating prime-Toph as well, it could go either way. Furthermore, since no Avatar before Korra can metalbend in the slightest, they may be at a disadvantage against Kuvira's signature metalbending technique, which focuses on binding one's eyes, limbs, and pretty much anything in a substance that is not easily broken or melted by any Avatar, and is a method of full-body-binding that, unlike bloodbending, cannot be simply overridden by the activation of the Avatar State like we saw with Aang and Yakone. If this was a more adult show, Kuvira would likely be impaling people left right and centre with shards of metal that she launches from her body.
Kuvira: *_"I have brought peace, freedom, justice, and security to my new empire!"_* Every other world leader: _"'Your new empire'?!"_ Kuvira: *_"Don't make me kill you."_*
Y'all are right about Korra needing someone to remind her how powerful she is... But you're going to be quite surprised by the person who provides her that talk. Can't wait.
Kuvira: I always get what I want
Montana: Take me already!!!!
Montana: I am what she wants
Montana’s type: girlboss
😂😂😂😂
Montana: Kuvira is what *I* want
When Wu is dancing he does the choreography of "Who run the world (Girls)" by Beyonce and then later in the episode Kuvira takes over. I'd say that was a great way to do foreshadowing lol.
Wow, I never noticed that. Good catch!
I need a video with timestamp as proof, pls. This is too good if it's real
@@barroslucasc
If you search "Prince Wu Beyonce" in the UA-cam search bar it should be the first video that pops out lol
@@RayMz08 I tried to find out by myself looking through the MV but I couldn't. But god this is golden
@@barroslucasc When this episode originally aired, I remember people doing side by side gif comparisons. It was AMAZING.
Kuvira: *crushes Kyoshi’s medal in public*
Kyoshi: Korra! Let me out! Let me out now! Aang let go of me! I’ll fold this little girl like a lawn chair!
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So true
AND Kyoshi was a very traditionalist, seeing Kuvira speak in that way about the monarchy should irritate her even more
OMG yes... Kyoshi for the W every time.
let’s not forget that by this time Korra doesn’t have connection to her past lives
Korra had two and a half years of compassionate Katara, that's what she needed then to begin her journey of healing. Now she needs Toph brutal honesty and tough love. 'Maybe you want the metal inside you' is exactly what she needed to hear because she hasn't been facing her demons.
That doesn't mean Toph was fully aware of that or that she's perfect or blameless, consider it working out a convenience of timing because it was. Toph would prolly do the same as soon as Korra started trying to heal and it wouldnt have been healthy
Katara:Kind and Sweet 🌊
Zuko:Calm and nice🔥
Toph:Stays the same 🪨
And we love that
As it should be
Sokka: dead 💀
well she actually changed and then back again. I mean she was chief of police that is actually so out of character
@@randomperson8467 Too soon...
How many of you wanna bet that Montana will be simping for Kuvira every second she on the screen like especially when she smirks 😏
Honestly that's been one of my favorite part of the season 4 reactions. XD
Also when her hair comes down later this season will definitely be a simp moment for her
@@ovalsrawesome7645 kuvira with hair down hits different
@@abthedragon4921 Honestly I think Zaheer was the best villain
@@Earth-uu3nf yes he was but Kuvira is the hottest along with Azula 😫
I don't think Toph turned away from compassion, but the fact was Aang was a pretty gentle spirit. He needed a soft guiding hand and compliments. According to Lin, Korra's "tough as nails". I think Toph can sense that she's a lot more aggressive and stubborn, and so she opts for a more hardcore / tough approach when helping her.
I totally agree. I don’t think Korra would enjoy nice easy help. She would want to cut to the chase and get it over with lol.
Toph didn't become complementary towards Aang in "Bitter Work" until after he proved himself by standing up to the moose lion. Korra isn't helping herself so Toph isn't going to go out of her way for her.
agree, its totally normal to change the way you act based on who you're dealing with
I like how Toph just casually says that her daughters, two of the strongest metal benders in the world, never really picked up metal bending all that well.
I mean, she is the one who INVENTED metalbending, and probably the greatest earthbender in the history of the entire Avatarverse (let alone in the world). I really don't think we've seen anyone who can match her, though it would be nice if one of her future descendants managed to match or even surpass her (it's what she would want, for her family to keep pushing the limits).
@@bkjeong4302 Lol, King Bumi.
@@controlman7490 Who was her equal when she was twelve (they duelled once and tied). She would have easily surpassed him in her prime, and probably still surpasses him even in her old age.
@@bkjeong4302 when did they duel again
@@FirePuff12 It's shown in a canon comic anthology.
This episode “the coronation” ”
Wu:”this is the worst day of my life”
Azula:Your not the only one
Homer Simpson: “Worst day of your life *so far*”
@@RhyperiorRanger yes
That makes me laugh so hard 😂. Poor Azula and Wu.
Actually she probably had it worse, because her father threw her under the bus and made her coronation meaningless.
Corona-tion
I think it's Kuvira's voice. It's just so silky in a way, you just love to hear it
What’s amazing is you have to choose between Wu and Kuvira as your leader. That’s practically two extremes of a spectrum.
Whether Wu is in power or Kuvira the EK is still going to be an authoritarian nation and here's why. Wu is a clown, so he would be appointed an advisor who would most likely take advantage of his stupidity and rule the country, similar to Kuei. Kuvira is smart, but she's authoritarian by nature but would industrialize the EK like never before. I'd rather choose to live under Wu's rule because at least then as long as you don't commit a crime you'll pretty much be left alone. Under kuvira's rule she uses slave labor, so I'm not with that.
"kuvira is basically just like korra" mako's face after bolin said that is priceless 😂
Haha ikr! His face just went : =/
Yeah! XD
Let’s be real I think we all made the same face as mako
To this day I cringe at this line and with the show's trying to want us to buy this, that Kuvira parallel/ mirrors Korra Because she don't. Far from it actually.
The villain that better parallel and mirrors Korra is Amon.
@@alexlannister950 Amon? Can you explain why? the only thing I can think of now is that they are from the same tribe
The Kuvira simp is so strong, it counted 10 twice
Nice one
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Kuvira slapping the world leaders had me dying, especially when she got to Eska and Desna.
I was laughing so hard 🤣 I forgot all about that slap video too. It's not even the slapping itself that's funny. Just the absurdity of it all lmao and that edit was hilarious
Episode title: The Coronation
Alternatively known as: That escalated quickly!
I cannot tell you guys how many times I had to rewind because instead of listening to the very important dialogue, I had just been staring at Kuvira and wondering why they had to make the fascist that hot
Kuvira is not a fascist, she is just a Dictator. that would be equally stupid to calling Amon an communist.
@@calor1065 Kuvira is 90% a Fascist, even has the drip to prove it. If this wasn't on Nick we would've seen things.
@@BhBc8f8 No she is Not. There is Not Even a clear Definition of fascim, cause their are different types, the Most popular ones are of course the japanese, italian and german versions. But to call an Oportunistic dictator a fascist simple Byte the Art of their rise to Power is just wrong. Their are some similarities to fascist rulers, but vastly More to every other absolut ruler who took Control in a trough civil war devastated Country. Its Not That easy „Black and White thinking“.
@@calor1065 Not according to the data
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@@BhBc8f8 pretty good meme xD
Kuvira: says words
Montana: "step on me"
Notice how Korra moves a little slower than her usual self. And how skinny she got. It’s the little details that make this show great🤌🏻✨
Ok but the fact that Kenny is wearing a Levi shirt is my favourite
The fact that Kenny is Kenny is also my favourite
Yes I saw that and was like 😮 😎
you don't mean the brand levi, do you?
@@gumballwatterson5037 he means it’s a shirt of a character in Attack On Titan
Korra had her earth chakra blocked, this chakra deals with the survival instict, and gets blocked with the fear. She was so afraid and when she overcame her fears, she was able to enter in the avatar state
Good point.
Damn thats good.
“We’ll be sending experienced advisors to help the Earth King.”
👁👄👁
Um does anyone remember the last time they had an advisor
Which is pretty much the intent as well-actually run the country with the advisor and the king is a figurehead.
Huh I wonder why Kuvira has so much support then /s
I still support kuvira over this crap
I love how Kuvira's theme is like a train that's building momentum. In her speech, it starts out quiet and builds on itself as she reaches the end. There's a lot of cool little details in the music this season, like how Kuvira's theme contains a corrupted version of the Zaofu theme, and a bunch more stuff that are a spoiler so I won't mention.
Edit: Also when Kuvira and Suyin are talking, it starts with the base Kuvira theme then when the camera cuts to Suyin, the corrupted Zaofu theme is played on top of it.
it may not be this episode but Kuvira with her hair down is the equivalent to Azula with her hair down.
Speaking of which, I actually wish the two of them interacted at one point-the former conqueror criticizing the current conqueror.
@@bkjeong4302 that would just be them telling each other how much they suck lol
And without makeup 😍
@@drunkkillerwhalesdriving Pretty much. Given the history of the Hundred Year's War I doubt they'd be on good terms.
@@bkjeong4302 yep. Kuvira hates the monarchy and Azula hates everyone.
Kuvira: *breathes*
Montana: They're doing this on purpose, she can't be this hot! >A
Kenny: she's evil how could you be attracted-
Montana: ITS ABOUT THE POWER
Palpatine: "The Republic, will be reorganized... *INTO THE FIRST... GALACTIC... EMPIRE!!!"*
Kuvira: "The Earth Kingdom is no more. *I have created a new Earth Empire!"*
Palpatine: "Yeeeesss, well done *my apprentice."* 😈😈😈
Baatar Jr, the time has come...Execute, Order. 66
I was looking for this comment.
SPOILERS
Witness the firepower of this fully armed and operational spirit energy cannon!
Palpatine/Darth Sidious: Execute Order 66.
Various clones like Commander Cody: Yes my lord; Clone Pilot with Master Plo Koon: It will be done my lord; Clone Trooper with Master Yoda: It will be done my lord; and Captain Rex: Yes, Lord Sidious.
Prince Wu is seriously the Avatar version of Kuzco. He’s got the dance moves, the attitude of a spoiled brat, and not so good with the women either.
Omg I never thought of that, I love that
Not good with women but admit it, he have taste 👌🏽
@@DistinguishedGentleSkull I give him an “A“ for effort at least in that department.
@Lady Seashell Bikini Yeah, flirts with them and fails to charm them.
Who I hoped would be killed by kuvira
Kuvira: I have brought peace, freedom, justice and security to my new empire!
You can't argue with results.
Everyone else in the Avatar world: ... your new Empire?!
@@thewandering01 Emphasis on "new and empire?!!", lol
Fun fact: where Mako and Prince Wu were eating/shopping, that was in Little Ba Sing Se which is a Republic City, it's supposed to be like real world places such as Chinatown, Korea town etc
The people of the Earth Kingdom love Kuvira, so imagine if Tenzin and the other leaders take her out, there would be an Earth Kingdom uprising. You also have to remember Wu's great-aunt was a ruthless ruler, and his great grandfather allowed the Dai Li to terrorize the citizens so the people see the monarchy as bad.
And don't even get started on what would happen if Izumi decided to stop this new dictator; after all, Izumi's aunt managed to conquer the capital and her grandfather tried to incinerate the entire continent.
I love that Kuvira crushed the medal of *freedom* which is exactly what Zaheer wanted
The two of them were always at opposite philosophical extremes; they even fought once back in Season 3.
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and both of them helped the Avatar deal with the other. I actually want to see them be imprisoned together for a bit (with restraints)just to see the verbal sparring between them.
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@@sittinggentleman4661 you need sum money 💰
Every single second that Kuvira is on-screen is just 'dun' after 'dun'. not because Kuvira is savage, but also because Montana exists.
Bolin's statement about Kuvira and Korra being similar is actually kinda scary to think about when you realize Kuvira is what Korra WOULD be if the Avatar were capable of being corrupted by power.
Ya, that's a valid argument; especially after Harmonic Convergence.
Yes, Korra defeated Vaatu during Harmonic Convergence, but not before Vaatu defeated Raava first.
Korra only got Raava back because neither Light nor Dark can exist without the other.
Raava herself said that even if one side were to win, the "loser" would only grow within the "winner" until the day their battle begins anew.
Vaatu isn't really gone; he will grow inside Raava, and by extension, the future Avatars.
Because of this crucial fact, I believe that the next Avatar Cycle will be just as susceptible to Vaatu's influence as to Raava's.
We could very well see Avatars with mindsets like Kuvira's in future generations.
Good luck sleeping with that thought in mind.
Can you IMAGINE if Aang had gone a bloodthirsy killing spree against the Fire Nation after the discovery of their genocide and on top of that, learned how to do BLOODBENDING LIKE AMON? Heads would roll and brains be splattered everywhere.
What if the Avatar CAN be corrupted out of their misguided personal ideals?
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On the other hand, that might actually make more Avatars more balanced between order and chaos. Too much order can also corrupt, as this season proves.
I actually want to see an evil Avatar at some point to explore this idea further-an Avatar way too focused on order.
I really don think Kuvira and Korra are that similar.
Now everytime o think about how Korra would ended up if she was evil, i think about Amon. Since he is the villain that not only is more similar to her but also his path mirrors Korra's path in book1
You know what, I will just say this.... Kuvira... has a point. About the monarchy and Wu specifically. Raiko was definitely going to use him as a puppet and manipulate him because homeboy clearly is not going to be a capable leader. Methods though? Obviously no.
Also, nobody can convince me that Wu + Mako wouldn't be a perfect ship hahahaha, I love their dynamic :D
A common them with this show is that the villains all have valid points/ideals but they carry them to the extreme
Imo Kuvira is the BEST example of this and that's a big part of why she's my fave villain
Also team wuko ftw 😍
@@byronstone386 Agree with everything. Only exception to it is probably season 2. But yeah. Kuvira is my fave villain for the same reason!
Team Wuko! :D
One line Kuvira said to Suyin: “I provide stability and equality.”
Isn’t that the Avatar’s job? Basically I think that line shows why she’s a foil to Korra and hence similar to her
That’s the point. The world needed Korra and she wasn’t there (understandably so) s eras someone akin to Korra takes the reins.
Indeed. The world was descending into chaos while Korra was gone. In order to fix it, Kuvira had to make some tough decisions. No one else was able or willing to do so, so Kuvira alone took it upon herself to be the one to "fix" the world, which is what Kuvira meant when she said: *_"I stepped UP."_*
@@TheGreater-ScopeVillain while I may disagree with Kuvira down the line, I defend her decision to leave Su and save the Earth Kingdom whole heartedly. Su claims she refused because she didn’t want to impose her ideology on the rest of the Earth Kingdom but rescuing Ba Sing se and the other provinces doesn’t need that. They can be liberated (rather than subjugated which admittedly is where Kuvira falls short though she believes it’s for the betterment of the nation). I honestly think Su is lying to herself and others, simply wanting to hide away in her city and pretending like she doesn’t owe anyone anything.
@@soulstealer5625 ohh please, Su clearly didn't help because she knew that if the Earth Kingdom was fully stabilized she would lose the illegal autonomy of Zaofu that was a prodact of the mismanaged bureaucracy of the central government. She preferred to be her own Queen on her shine city and let all other Earth kingdom citizens to suffer. The ideology thing was bullshit. She could easily stabilize the Earth Kingdom and give power back to the central government with out imposing her ideology to the nation. But instead she would rather let's people suffer.
The love between Montana and Kuvira😂😂
"This is Little Ba Sing Se Little Shopping Mall, I'm their little King *comically angrily jumps side to side*", 😆😂.
I swear that theres an unspoken truth out there that you can never get a Beifong wrong when it comes to writing. I love the whole family.
I loved that Kuvira crushed the Kyoshi Medal of Honor, because Kuvira is so similar to Chin the Conqueror, the person Kyoshi fought against. Like Kuvira, Chin also went on a campaign to unite the Earth Kingdom in a state of disarray, opposing the unpopular monarchy, and gaining popularity among the people. History repeats itself, and once again the debate props up, what should the Avatar's role be in such a complicated situation.
seeing Montana simping for a character is so precious
congrats for finishing your thesis btw
The cut scene of kuvira smacking everyone killed me. That was so funny hahaha
Montana: "What are we doing with the magic plant?"
OH YOU HAVE NOOOOOOOO IDEA.......
Kuvira: *_"The dark side of the spirit force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be... unnatural."_*
SPOILERS below:
Kuvira: *_"Now witness the firepower of this fully armed and operational spirit energy cannon!"_*
Fun fact: If korra still had connection
to her past lives , she would allow kyoshi take over her and destroy the updated version of chin the conquerer
Haha true 😂😂
Kuvira:
*_"Avatar Kyoshi, you are interfering in internal Earth Empire business, and letting your PERSONAL feelings get in the way of reason."_*
*_"I will fight the Avatar one-on-one. Kyoshi, if you win, then you can do whatever you want with the world. But after I BEAT you, I want you out of my business for good. I'M the one who brought peace to the Earth Empire, NOT you. You're not relevant here anymore."_*
*_"Use whatever you want. All the elements, the Avatar State, anything you need! I know you're a little rusty."_*
@@TheGreater-ScopeVillain not to mention she dissed the kyoshi medal.
No more Kings and Queen, say hello to the Earth Empire
Who else’s thinks the *Kuvira simp counter: 20* will go up to 20
Don't worry, Montana. A LARGE amount of the gay fandom simps for Kuvira. The more we see or her, the more we love her.
montana’s reaction to that one wuko line lmao 😭
Wait which one 😳
@@WriosCumJar “good old mako. my big tough guy.” lmao
We really didn’t know Kuvira before to know that she had this in her. Zuko is sitting next to his daughter, Fire Lord Izumi. One of the bad things rewatching this season is seeing Wu being super annoying.
I disagree. He has a pretty good storyline and arc honestly
@@unclebobboomergames He does, but he still starts off super annoying, that was the point of his story arc.
‘mako + wu “friendship” counter’ has two very different meanings at the beginning and end of the season lol
THE KORRA RETRIEVAL SQUAD EDIT. I’m choooooking
Toph, Ghazan and Kurvira are the 3 reasons I want to be an Earthbender.
Kyoshi bruh? She's badass
@@gyomeihimejima2829 She is. I just listed my top 3 reasons.
As one not yet done with her schoolwork - I send you guys most heartfelt congratulations, as well as a burning sense of envy
From someone that has been in and out of mental health institutions, people that have Toph’s mentality are often better at helping people with mental illness that have been suffering for a while and don’t know what to do anymore. The tough “enough is enough” mentality is often ignored for being too aggressive but sometimes someone doesn’t like being cared for and babied for extended periods of time
So proud of you guys for accomplishing something so insanely difficult! Just remember that you’ve both done something that many many people can’t say they have! You guys should feel great about what you’ve accomplished!
When Kuvira crushed the Kyoshi medal
The Earth Kingdom is to be reorganized into the first Earth Empire. For a safer and securer...society (I've been waiting so long to say that)
The remaining bandits will be HUNTED DOWN, AND, DEFEATED!
"Baatar Jr, the time has come...Execute. Order, 66."
“Witness the firepower of this fully armed and operational spirit energy cannon!”
So this is how liberty dies. With thunderous applause.
@@bkjeong4302 Fire at will, Commander!
@@deesplint4829 She's right to depose an incompetent puppet monarch but wrong to replace him with herself.
fun fact:Little Ba Sing Se is in republic city if you didn’t know
Obviously? It's like the China town of that universe
@@kallenmurphy yo relax man
Most reactors get confused about that.
What? I'm kinda confused.
unlike zuko and katara who have changed a lot, I like how toph is the still the exact same even after all these years. And the voice actress for old toph does a great job, it's just how you would imagine toph as an old lady.
I wouldn't say Katara changed much tbh! Still very nurturing and empathetic 🤍
I would image Toph would have a foul mouth if she wasn't on Nick
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One aspect where she could have changed (for the worse) is combat, as we never see her fight this time. Though granted, she’s in her late 80s in Season 1, which is older than most of the old masters in the previous show. So she was probably still the badass we know back in her 60s-early 70s.
It suits her element.
Learning Montana was also homeschooled helps me to not feel so awkward. I was as well, and people can't tell, but when I bring it up there's always that 'Oh'. Kind of having a representation and just a 'yeah so what' is so niiiiice.
Such a cool thought @13:57 about how her enlightenment included the combination of her seismic sense with the connection via the vines and the Swamp Sage’s understanding of the connection of all things.
Notice how Kuvira crushed the "Kyoshi Medal of FREEDOM"...
I mean Kyoshi is a staunch monarchist and Kuvira sees herself as relaxing the need for the Avatar giving it was her who sorted out the Earth kingdom mess.
Many people will gladly give up a portion of freedom in exchange for security. After all, isn't that what society is? A social exchange? With Kuvira, she offers complete safety and security in exchange for complete and absolute submission to her rule, as she believes that she is the most capable (or perhaps the _only_ one capable) of upholding that peaceful society.
@@TheGreater-ScopeVillain what amuses me is the criticism that Kuvira is a dictator... then turning around and offering Wu as the other candidate, a man out of his depth but appointed to a position of what was autocratic power. Sounds like they intended to castrate the power of king and move it to constitutional
I've never seen any other reactor get like this from kuvira
The Mako + Wu "friendship" counter made me feel so validated, I KNEW I wasn't the only one who detected a lil fruitiness going on 👀
I think they meant it moreso as like a "fake/forced friendship" type of thing
But I ship them tbh so I'm down with your idea
@@byronstone386 haha I would be inclined to agree with you, but then I saw Kenny and Montana's faces at 21:36 when Wu called him "my big tough guy" 👀
@@Eman-vp6ju you got a point there
I don't think they would work together. Mako already seems to not like him, but can tolerate him to an extent.
@@controlman7490 at this point in the season yeah, but it gets better! In any case I'm not too invested in the ship haha, I just think it would be cute.
Also significant mlm rep is practically non-existent in Western animation, so I'm a little desperate 🥲
This episode specifically got me to think that Kuvira would be a great antagonist, cause she just wants unity, put doesn’t know to to do it peacefully
Your comment with Kuvira and Amon being the only antagonists seen as heroes and with significant support is actually completely untrue because every single main antagonist from every book had significant support wether out in the open (The Red lotus members are the only ones that were hidden for obvious reasons). Amon had the equalists, Unalaq had the entire north army, Zaheer with the entire Red Lotus, and obviously now Kuvira with her Empire. It was even the same with Ozai who had the whole fire nation backing him and seeing him as the hero. It's a common and consistent trope in this world
Toph is compassionate on her terms and to the people she chooses to be compassionate to. Aang was the exception to the rule of Tough Love Toph™. It wasn't her changing who she is, just her being accommodating to the needs of one person she cares a lot about - Just like he was accommodating to her and her needs.
That slap edit was gold lmao
I'm also obsessed with Kuvira. I like that they give her a redemption arc in the comics
Who is here to see Montana simping for Kuvira, omg 🥰😂
It is just the best thing ever.
Happy birthday Montana!!! This is one of my favorite youtube channels! I hope you celebrate your birthday with grace and happiness! Cheers to 1 more year!❤🎉🎁
Kuvira: *exists*
Hitler: Look at my little gumdrop...So proud of you honey!
Happy fascist family:
Hitler- father
Palpatine- grandfather
Scar- uncle
Kuvira- little daugther
@@cisarvitiate Would the White Witch be the Mother? 😂
@@cisarvitiate what about Ozai
@@mathies3598 he is the second uncle from mother’s side😂
@@mathies3598 Ozai is not a fascist. He's just an absolute monarch.
You can tell Toph learned quite a bit from Katara over the years. Rocking a bit of Waterbender flow in her Earthbending.
I love how Montana was touching her elbow after Toph pulled off the leech
Wu and Azula both had the worst coranation ever
Mother's Day was hectic. Thanks for this queens ❤
to quote from the song "Garden Party" - "When I got to the garden party, They all knew my name, But no one recognized me, Guess I didn't look the same..."
I love that speech Kurvira made.
All hail the Great Uniter.
That wasn't a warning. It was a very strong suggestion.
That was A WARNING. Not a strong suggestion.
7:42
Oh the music is really cool. I like it that when you pause that some kind of musoc comes
13:20 nice reference to the Elbow Leech lol
"Sokka you've got an Elbow Leech!"
"Where?!?"
"Where do you think?"
28:42 IDK seems kinda ableist of the chakras to say "no you can't be a fully realized Avatar until you're not depressed anymore"
Kuvira simp counter starts popping off... Montana "I have a SIMPle brain" lol 11:10
Toph is the same in a lot of aspects, but it is still very obvious how much wisdom and experience she has now
God ryujin yes madam
@@irahngio Lmaooo yes
Ngl, I feel like Kyoshi would try to kill Kuvira on sight. Kuvira parallels Chin the Conqueror really well and we all know how Kyoshi feels about tyrants.
Kuvira:
*_"Avatar Kyoshi, you are interfering in internal Earth Empire business, and letting your PERSONAL feelings get in the way of reason."_*
*_"I will fight the Avatar one-on-one. Kyoshi, if you win, then you can do whatever you want with the world. But after I BEAT you, I want you out of my business for good. I'M the one who brought peace to the Earth Empire, NOT you. You're not relevant here anymore."_*
*_"Use whatever you want. All the elements, the Avatar State, anything you need! I know you're a little rusty."_*
Take a moment to examine Montana's face when Prince Wu calls Kuvira "Gumdrop". 😂
Wu's "carry me?" gets me cackling every time
Wu is like the last emperor, and Kuvira is basically Mao.
Anyone outside of the Earth Empire: Noooo you cant just use spirit vine for technology!
Varrick: Haha spirit vine go BRRRRRRR
Montana at 25:42 is literally the biggest mood. That glare is ice cold, give it to em
I'm here for the Kuvira simping.
CONGRATULATIONS to both of you for finishing your theses!
I had to pause at the “ay makooooo” callback to laugh for five minutes 😂
Omg I died with the slapping the twins scene 😂😂😂
the animators knew what they were doing with kuvira lmao
edit: also, she commands the military might of the entire earth kingdom... emm, i mean, earth empire... which is the biggest region in the avatar universe by far, the air nation seems to have hundreds of members at most, and zaufou is just one little city, i dont think these groups could really stand against kuvira in a full on military conflict, plus, she has the support of the people
and the final point, she is actually a really elite metal bender, in a one v one fight she could give 99% of people in this universe a good fight i think
Indeed. I've always viewed Kuvira as the most skilled metalbender, at least in terms of combat. Unlike _any_ of the Beifongs, Kuvira has trained her entire life to master metalbending in the ways of the warrior, and invented her own effective style of metalbending now used by the soldiers of her empire.
One v one, Kuvira can indeed take on pretty much anyone in the Avatar universe. She can definitely beat old-Toph, and has a good shot at beating prime-Toph as well, it could go either way. Furthermore, since no Avatar before Korra can metalbend in the slightest, they may be at a disadvantage against Kuvira's signature metalbending technique, which focuses on binding one's eyes, limbs, and pretty much anything in a substance that is not easily broken or melted by any Avatar, and is a method of full-body-binding that, unlike bloodbending, cannot be simply overridden by the activation of the Avatar State like we saw with Aang and Yakone.
If this was a more adult show, Kuvira would likely be impaling people left right and centre with shards of metal that she launches from her body.
I know they don't have royalties for that but when Kuvira walks in there should be Imperial March playing.
Kuvira: *_"I have brought peace, freedom, justice, and security to my new empire!"_*
Every other world leader: _"'Your new empire'?!"_
Kuvira: *_"Don't make me kill you."_*
Anyone else stress over college decisions last week😭😭😭
That ship sailed for me back in 2019 brotha XD I just wrapped up my second year of college last month!
10:09 Montana.exe has stopped working 😂😂
Y'all are right about Korra needing someone to remind her how powerful she is... But you're going to be quite surprised by the person who provides her that talk. Can't wait.
I don’t understand. Who is this “Toph” they keep referring to when Melon Lord is on screen?
The difference is Aang was more of a softie, but Korra is much more aggressive personality so she probably needs to be harsher