You don't even need multiplayer to see the projection stone thing, just look down while using the projection stone and you'll see yourself made of gold. Since your view is only of the other area, you are seeing your own projection there.
It gets better... Solanum quickly deduces that you are carrying a device which translates written Nomai text, despite not seeing it in operation before she creates some text for you to translate. She also creates an easy-to-interpret icon representing you in an instant... the other symbols could have come from some kind of clip art library, but not that one. Wish I could run back to the library and say "Teach me to *write* Nomai script, in less than twenty minutes!"
Well, things are a bit odd on the qm. There really isnt such a thing as quickly. Or slowly. Time is meaningless. But yeah. Making a stone that represents us is basically proof they can make them at will. Good point bud.
I know the devs said the visual textures of Nomai text "don't actually convert to anything and just look cool", but wouldn't it be neat if it did? Or if a fan _makes_ a substitution cipher based on Nomai text, akin to Mario Sunshine's Dolphic language or the Dinotopian Footprint Alphabet? It'd sure be a fun way to "encrypt" notes to yourself... Also the Hatchling doesn't need to learn it all in _one_ loop, they could gradually learn it over the course of dozens if they had to. Like how O'Neill and Teal'c were taught the writing system on the Ancient time-looping machine over the course of subjective weeks... before Daniel let slip about what a time loop _actually_ means. Granted, their loop length was multiple hours, so it might take half the ATP's loop just to get the museum duo up to speed each time for _why_ you suddenly want to learn to write in Nomaian. _firing marshmallows into space_ "Hatchling, what the hell are you doing?!" "IN THE MIDDLE OF MY BACKSWING?!?"
maaaaan I remember when I first stumbled on the probe tracking module and found the EotU coordinates I was like “oh those are some pretty cool shapes” because I somehow had NO idea what they were lmao
Late ass reply, but as someone who went to giants deep first and saved bramble til my last like 8 loops there were a lot of times I had answers but didnt know the question.
We actually did Giant's Deep last and...a lot of head smacking ensued. We spent most of the game going but what was the actual looking for the Eye part of the plan? How were they going to find it? And what the hell are the creepy masks inside the Ash Twin Project projection all about?
"that what we are going to talk about in this loop" when you realise the lore explorer is stuck in time loop and that is why every video start the same
@@TheLoreExplorer To be fair, her "instrument" you find is her mask, so I think the jury might be out on exactly how. Heck, since the events at the Eye are apparently based on the player's memories, Solanum's piano ability might sadly just be the Eye filling in the gaps, since we never heard or saw evidence of Solanum playing any instrument or music.
@@NightChime we do know the staff can make sounds though. When on the qm she touches her staff to a shard to make little communication stones. As each one pops up different notes seem to play.
@@NightChime For all we know the piano could be what Nomai speech sounds like, and the reason it uses her mask as the instrument is because she's singing.
Cool video! One connection you didn't discuss: At 8:20 you said that we don't find any tools which the Nomai used for mining. But if you look at the bottom of the Timber Hearth mines, you'll see neat circles of rock taken out of the walls, and the holes are about the same diameter as the Artificial Gravity Wells. I think they used the wells for mining, using high-power versions to pull the rock out of the ground and then draw the pieces up. At Timber Heath there is still a horizontal and then vertical well, like a conveyor belt for mined stone. Though the Timber Hearth stone was for the Ash Twin project, we can find circular holes about the same size in many other places in the system, so maybe they did this for regular building materials too.
Noteworthy: the memory mask animation at the end/start of each loop specifically goes through the THIRD EYE. Basically it looks like that's where the memory stream flows through
Ayyy i know im super late to this. One further bit of evidence that corroborates the nomai's third eye sensitivity is that Solanum is able to IMMEDIATELY tell you have 4 eyes, when in the Self ending you cant even see your face past your visor.
I never really thought about it like that. Our helmet definitely has a golden like coating preventing her from seeing us directly, yet she still knew! Nice catch John!!
I always assumed their third eye moves independently and is the one using the balls to activate stuff. It makes sense from a game perspective (cause you will need to hold stuff and cannot use the action button at all time, especially at the end) but also makes sense as to why Nomai would have it. Why would they pass an easy, hands free way to interact with stuff while carrying more warp cores, especially if they can do it with their third eye?
Damn lore explorer making a video about overlooked technology just like the fact his channel is overlooked and underrated. Not stopping saying this until you get the recognition you deserve these videos show effort man. I hope all the best for the channel
Im starting to get a bit! A pr company has given me a few videos games a few days early! Its not much but its something! lol. Thanks Mr.Peezy. Since im certain thats your real name.
i find it funny how most of nomai's technology is overly complicated (e.g. signs that fix themselves, eye-tracking switches) even tho the nomai are super intelligent beings
I also thought about the structures the Nomai build and the lack of tools and conversations mentioning it. I figured building stuff is just very easy for them so they don't even mention it much. But...they clearly like decorating things, it's not just functional.
1:23 isn't kinda weird that on Timber Hearth the Nomai were considerate enough not to fuck around too much with the environment so as to not interfere with future evolution of species of the place? And then decide to go blow up the sun?
In theory, the atp and sun's explosion doesn't really hurt anything as long as everything works right. But yeah. There was even a big internal debate on whether or not they should build the sun station.
With the time travel technology, once they found the coordinates to the eye of the universe then they wouldn’t have to blow up the sun to power anything anymore so the sun would have been fine no matter what for another 250k years
Just wanted to express my appreciation for your videos. I study Language & Linguistics but decided to do my bachelor’s paper on storytelling in video games. I haven’t narrowed it down further than that yet, although I’ve got a few ideas, but it’s really difficult to find proper scholarly sources on videogames, sources that actually treat video games like an interesting piece of art in all its complexity (at least compared to articles on Jane Eyre or Shakespeare). One of my ideas is to research alternative types of storytelling, of which Outer Wilds obviously is a prime example. The lack of proper sources on Google Scholar for example really demotivates me to start researching, but watching your videos makes me feel like I can be part of the conversation too, even though my focus will be completely different from yours. So yeah, thanks, for diving into the lore and technology of the nomai for us, and for keeping us hooked long after we finished the game ^_^
Wow. This is so kind. And very interesting lol. I understand why lack of official sources is demotivating. But I kind of get why thats the case. Video games have many different ways to tell a story, and multiple stories can be told in one experience. Some play throughs are very long and trying to figure out whats going on at times can be hard. Also, I see a reason for lack of any official study in this area being a motivating idea. Itd sort of be like starting your own field of study. At least if im understanding you right. If you ever need help understanding something in the game let me know! Though I doubt youd want my help for linguistic analysis lol.
@@TheLoreExplorer Oops, only saw this answer now :c Thank you for your answer and offering your help hehe! By now I've narrowed my research question down to narrativity & mental illness in videogames, so I won't be using Outer Wilds, but it could still be interesting for a later project! Sorry for the late answer, and keep making us proud, you're doing great ^^
Yeah, I get that because I honestly think outer wilds would not have been able to portray its story in such a beautiful way if it had been a book or show.
The artificiall gravity wells probably use the gravity crystals in the rings they're inbetween, a bit of evidence is that there is a broken one on brittle hollow which one ring was disconnected from, and it's basically a tiny gravity cannon
Just found out from one of the artists on the game that there was an achievement for knocking all those Nomai rock cairns over with your scout, but it got cut.
Possibly the liquid gold is activated by electrical charges? Somewhat similar to how you can make shapes with sound frequencies and sand. The pools have a power source from the eye tracking orb which could give it shape and the stones have a thing on the side of them and when the 2 rocks spin they connect the electrical charge.
5:40 They DEFINITELY don't use gravity crystals for one clear reason - they're all over the sunless city! The gravity crystal tech was discovered from Brittle Hollow's rocks, which is why the Hanging City uses plenty of crystals and the Sunless City uses none - but they both use those gravity wells you talk about. Although its possible that when the escape pod colonies reunited, they shared technology and built them into the Sunless City later, the fact that the Sunless City uses no gravity crystals is pretty damning evidence to support my theory. Additionally, they both had access to gravity cannons, though these might have been built after reuniting, because they also both had warp abilities which were revolutionised by the Brittle Hollow colony ::)
If I had to guess there are three lights inside the moving lightballs because you need three lines to pinpoint a position in three dimensional space. If there were only two, it wouldnt know wether to move 1 meter towards or 9999 meters directly opposite of us
From beginning of my own gameplay it hits me in which style they make their conversations. Texts are mostly short messages connected to one another by ends as the conversation develops into threads. They does this in pretty similiar way to how Twitter developed their responds style, or how comments on Reddit work and I can't stop thinking about it this way.
That was a solid review of their day-to-day tech! The one exception that stood out to me was the gravity walkways (patterned glowing surfaces), though that seems like a generalization of the gravity stone technology. None of their devices seem to need active power sources, from the distress beacons to the gravity tech to whiteboards, all seem to be trucking along fine after several hundred thousand years, which is wild. I did like that we get to see multiple generations of technology; e.g. the gravity canons and ships were useful until they re-invented warp technology.
solanum speaks hearthian at the eye as well though. That detail left me skeptical about whether or not I could trust that. But we can also hear it play tones on the qm as she makes those symbols so I prob should of put it in.
when the Nomai carved out the stones for conversation, I thought they were just pointing to some symbols they already had on the wall, like they were expecting us. Didn't think they used the tablet to write them and carve out the stones for us, you do a whole lot to let people appreciate the little details that we'd pass by. Thanks for posting!
Still at it I see :) So glad I just bought the game for a second time now on Steam.. and it has Ultrawide support out of the box! No longer needing to mod it. It's nice they listen to the fans, makes me gleeee. Also I really want to play this with the MP mod with someone I always wanted to see the face of our character before he puts on his space suit, he has a shadow outline..
I'm not fully convinced that the Nomai staves are what allow them to manipulate and rearrange matter. I feel like they have the innate ability to manipulate matter (and even see matter to an extent with which other beings can't, like using their third eye as you mentioned), and they use the staves as appendages just because it's more convenient than putting the staff down on the ground to do things. I think that the staff does help manipulate matter more precisely, in order to draw glyphs and icons for example (much like we can cut ordinary material with our hands but the action is more precise with say, a knife or a scissor), but they aren't at all the source of their "telekenetic" abilities.
Actually, now that you mention it. They seem to be able to imbue this ability into other things as well. Such as the projection pools and signs that return to their location if knocked over! Ill have to think on it more! Great catch Kix!
@@TheLoreExplorer yeah! Thanks for pointing that out too! That makes more sense if they can actually imbue inanimate objects with their "psychic". It also follows that a lot of their technology might be imbued with it as well (memory statues, gravity wells, etc.)
2:19 the third eye could also be used to control these, maybe the nomai can move their third eye independently from the other two allowing them to control their things without altering what they are focusing their vision towards
One think that also easy to not understand (at leadt imo) is the fact that Orange Nomai Text mean that its been received from another location and blue text means it was written here (or at least that how i understood it)
How do we know the Nomai haven't discovered gravity crystals before they arrived at the solar system? It seems like they often used the crystals as a sort of "quick and dirty" form of gravity alteration, much easier to pick up, use, re-use, and/or leave behind than the more intricate "gravity pathways". It's pretty likely, to me, that the Nomai would use the crystals when they're exploring a new planet or solar system back when they traveled through space, and that just... Translated conveniently to the way things worked here in the solar system!
i guess there is no way of knowing if they had discovered them before they lost access to them by crashing the vessel. But we do know they need unique material to create. it requires crust from brittle hollow(or others like it) that has intrinsic gravitational properties inherent to it. And if they knew about that they likely wouldnt of waited so long to create them while stranded on brittle hollow. they could of also used them is the vessel or escape pods if it was something they already had.
@@TheLoreExplorer super old comment, but isn't it explicitly said in the bramble pod logs that they had gravity crystals as standard kit? They use them to create a path from the pod to the signal in bramble (you follow their glow to find them huddled round the seed), and the logs from brittle hollow mention using them to create a path from their escape pod to the spot they built the hanging city- we follow them to find the city from their pod.
@@MysterousBear no? there is no gravity crystals in the vessel, brambles escape pod 3, or anywhere in bramble. The Nomai left lights as a trail to follow if they needed a way back, which is what we follow to find them. the path to the hanging city is indeed grav crystals. but the path to the temporary city from the escape pod is made from wood. The Nomai discovered/invented gravity crystals on brittle hollow from its crust. so there is basically no way they had them when they arrived.
@@TheLoreExplorer Oh man, fair enough! Recently finished the game for the first time (blown away), and haven't had time to go back and solidify everything I saw: I remembered those lights being grav stones, but I'd take your word on it every day of the week. Thanks for all the content, I've been pawing over it ever since I finished!
If the Nomai's third eye could see every quantum state of an object, then presumably they would also see the quantum moon around every planet? But the Nomai call the quantum moon "The Disappearing Moon" so obviously the third eye has a different function.
I'm pretty sure I specified that was the alpha nomai I thought that for. I think the Nomai we know can just see things at the atomic level if they want.
Great video, as with all the rest of yours exploring Outer Wilds. Quick thing on the 'fixing signs'. I wonder if it was in reference to the N64 Zelda games? A similar thing happens when you play certain Ocarina songs next to a destroyed sign in OoT and MM, it reassembles in pretty much the exact same way. Wouldn't surprise me given the MM reference in one of the achievements but it does make me happy to see. God I love stories with time loops!
Absolutely! In the noclip doc the lead dev mentions that outer wilds is heavily influenced by zelda. He didn't like how hand holdy it was. And he thought it was suoer cool they'd show images that you could then go find in the world!
@@TheLoreExplorer Thanks for bringing that documentary to my attention! Hilarious that Alex had such a strong reaction towards Skyward Swords linearity that it basically inspired OW 😂 Can't blame him, good game but very dissappointing. Actually very interesting to look at the similarities between Breath of the Wild (Zeldas next game after SS) and OW. Both are somewhat a direct result of Skyward Swords linear design, and accomplish their goals in similar ways (can complete the game in any order, exploration based on clues, dialogue and visual intrigue, possible to beat the game straight away if you have the knowledge to do so). Really no wonder why I loved OW so much as a massive Zelda fan.
hi TLE! i have a small point of contention with your point about the nomai eye. simply put, the fact that the nomai wondered "what the hearthian's fourth eye does" paired with the fact that it does not have any extraordinary function is exactly the same as us two-eyed humans wondering what the nomai third eye does, when there is very scant evidence to prove it does anything other than see!
I have a more recent video on this. "Is the Nomais third eye special" or something like that. There are a few solid hints the Nomais 3rd eye does something special aside from their seemingly random question about the 4th eye. Which I largely ignored for a long time. Specifically on the sun station. They mention "seeing infinitesimally small surface changes that were barely visible. Even to the third eye". Which imo is a solid , if not definite, indication it does do something different/special. We also know they do and know quite extraordinary things. Such as imbuing information into stones with their staff with nary a word and hardly any movement. Or using projection pools and actually being able to sort of see whatever location youre projecting to. We also see them with telekinetic powers of sorts. None of this proves anything. But their vast knowledge and abilities could be explained by a new capability that evolved only after generations of space travel. And we know their third eye specifically, even if only symbolically, is where they depict info transfers via the statue. When the loop occurs we see the statue and all the memories pour into their third eye. Along with the notion that they are seemingly enlightened. Or in other words "They have their third eye opened". Just all the little things together paint a deeper picture than just a throw away wondering line.
It's such a small, but important detail. I hadn't noticed the air line from the tank to the mask. Of course having that line on the outside of the suit increases the chance that the suit's air supply is cut. Though now I'm wondering *why?* Why it was intentionally made on the outside? All the suits and helmets are the same (correct me if I'm wrong). Was there some kind of modularity in the suits or functional sacrifice that warranted the suits have that line on the outside? Or did the designer just not think about the implications of having the air line on the outside of the suit?
It is a small detail but I think they just wanted a way to visually show that the big tank on the back of their head is actually an oxygen tank. That was actually lost on me until I saw the tube.
@@TheLoreExplorer Have you ever wondered why the Anglerfish stay in Dark Bramble? According to a piece of paper in the Hearthian museum, they can survive out in space. At least for a short enough time for a young one to be found and contained. I'm going off memory so I may be misremembering how the baby anglerfish was captured
@@sam_wilds It latched onto the legs of a nearby spaceship and survived the flight back to timber. I think they dont leave because they cant really. since they cant see they cant really try to find an exit. Plus, if they did, theyd just be out in space. with no food, oxygen or fog or whatever they breathe, and no real way of getting anywhere in open space. its hard to say really. anglerfish are a mystery.
Btw this is unrelated to this video but my theory is that the universe is eternal (which is kind of pointed out at the fact that we see the big bang of a child universe at the end of the game). So as far as we know, black holes only grow in size and keep on eating matter and energy. Slowly black holes will merge into one giant black hole and the mass which the black hole ate creates only one child universe. Every separate black hole transports planets, stars and other matter to this new universe (in pieces... literally atoms or even quarks or gluons) and we know that time is linear but when we are looking at multiple black holes, time is flowing normally for us on this side. Over on that side, the entire lifespan of our universe condenses into only a fraction of time moments after the big bang. So mass and energy are conserved. The mass of the massive black hole which has now replaced the entirety of our universe will now slowly decay it's mass by Hawking radiation and will transmit inside through the black hole to the child universe and this energy somehow converts itself into dark energy and dark matter which is ever lasting in the child universe's lifespan and will cause the acceleration of the child universe (just like ours). And this process is eternal. We are constantly looping through one big bang which creates another universe only for it to do the same. Thus time is eternal too. Time which can only be perceived by a conscious observer is a byproduct of the energy produced by the decaying giant black hole from the mother universe converting itself into dark matter, dark energy, light and matter in the child universe and is the mediator between all of them. Oh and immediately after the child universe is created, it attains properties like emergence, entropy and particles existing as both wave and matter at the same time. The quantum phenomena which the double slit experiment exposes is only an emergent behavior between consciousness (which is also emergent and quantum in nature) and the wave properties of particles.
hmmm have you seen my videos on my views of the universe? I basically think its an infinite, cyclical, quantum universe. The only problem with this theory is in ow black holes dont grow. They expell the matter that would make it grow from the white hole. So their size seems determined from the get go. BUT, I think the eye is a black hole, so youre basically still right anyway lol
@@TheLoreExplorer in OW we don't come across a natural black hole. The black holes created by the Nomai have white holes for the purpose of transporting objects through space. Also in our world, white holes are only a theory and we haven't observed them. In our world, black holes rip objects apart atom by atom and in their world they don't (at least the ones formed by the Nomai). So yeah some parts are similar and some are different.
@@TheLoreExplorer the universe could be infinite in the sense that the universe is contained in a large finite 4D space (which we can't even simulate) and the transformation from that 4D space to 3D in our world creates the illusion of it being infinite but the fact is that the laws of physics prevent you from reaching the end and the 'end' is ever growing thus making it seem infinite. Just my theory anyways.
@@TheLoreExplorer oh it is? Was it mentioned in the lore? If so I must have missed it. But the Nomai could indeed create black and white holes and they also created the warp technology we see in their gravity cannon flinged spaceships and our scout.
Hello, I am CreativeName, and this, is my abomination of a comment. That seems neat, but I feel like we are in the caveman territory, trying to understand what modern tech is. Or, worse, we are in the dolphin category, not even having the same anatomic structure and maybe perceiving color differently, for instance. Well, while we may end up with a pretty neat ideas, we still may think that a computer only has 1 button, which turns it on, making it a worse version of the light bulb. Or that the computer screen is the processing unit, or that the video call is teleportation, or that the video player is time travel. Of course I am taking it to the extremes, but let me offer a few different ideas, which still have this problem. Gravity tech: a lot of Nomai stuff manipulates gravity, but (unless we see the names in the game code) some of the tech might be other forces based, maybe magnetic, maybe micro structure based. Those include: switch spheres, gravity wells, Nomai shuttle landing beams. The liquid (?) display thingy: it may be just an elaborate 3d monitor. It may just arrange the liquid into shapes in any conceivable way: gravity, micro, wait, I already named them. The projection pools and boards: I think that the conversations are stored either on the boards the conversation were on or some kind of main server. The projection stones are nothing more then a username, IP, tag, whatever you want to call it. This would explain being able to access a conversation using any copy of a stone. For instance, you can read the ATP-Mine conversation from the Mine board using the: ATP stone at Mines, ATP stone at the probe tracking module, ATP stone at the statue workshop. Any ATP stone will do, is what I am saying. The switch balls: I don't know if they have electricity in them, maybe it's some form of energy, maybe it's just some "chips", determining your looking position and responsible for movement, maybe it's just an indicator, which lights up like a light bulb wire. While we may rule out some theories, like the information of projection conversations being stored on projection stones, can you see I actually disagree with that yet, we still may end up with a lot of conflicting theories, which we have no way to differentiate between. Some of it may even not have been though through during the development process. Some may rely on fields of physics we don't yet know about.
1.) This is obviously less of a deep dive and more of a shallow view of many technologies i feel were overlooked. 2.) ill note if you go back in the video and in our conversations on discord i literally never said the conversations were stored in the stones. I said info was. Which it is.(What location the stone connects to/is the key to which conversation) 3.)I literally said in the video, when solanum put visual info on the stones "This is what we see with the projection stones too". Proving days ago, when i wrote the script, the conversation being stored in the stone was never even considered, and thats something you completely made up on your own and ran with. 4.)As Nettakrim and i sort of figured out in about 10 minutes, it seems the projection stones all have a location on them. The board to plug them into has a stone built in, which makes them a pair. We see the conversation between that combination when we plug them in. I think the conversations are stored in the base(or built in stone) connected to the board. Thats maybe what you were trying to say, but i took it as the actual board itself. 5.)I still think the information is sort of isolated on those bases. I dont think there is some kind of nomai internet where its all stored like the memories. But I could be wrong.
@@TheLoreExplorer well, you did say that the information was stored on 2 stones as the conversation went on, suggesting (to me) the stones were logging the dialogue...
@@mongrel444 well, yes, but they do have different bone structure and the sight is definitely different. Anyway, I don't think you will be comfortable in those beds of theirs...
right. this would actually be both bases. or the built in stones. Theyd both store the same conversation. but one would be in the atp, unlocked by the mines projection stone. and one would be in the mines, unlocked by the atp projection stone. This is because two people had the conversation, maybe even more. but its still isolated to those two places. as far as i understand anyway.
Are those images in projection stone in real time? I mean if you place your probe in one room where the projection stone shows and view it via another stone. can you see your probe?
Wait so, the Nomai created the statue to basically pair with ones mind and bring them back when they die right? And didn’t some of the Nomai do this as well? So if so, then how are the Nomai dead since they would be stuck in a never ending loop? I’m really confused about this game so there is probably an answer to this
well, no. The nomai statues are paired with a nomais mind. But all it does is send those memories back in time. It doesnt just bring people back to life. Also, only one Nomai tested this technology before the ash twin projects was activated. So no Nomai ever sent memories through the projects. And no Nomai are currently connected to it. The 3 active statues represent us, gabbro, and the orbital probe canons tracking module.
@@nickcalderon2637 Technically, it's the Probe finding something that activates them. Because the loop is already on its 9,000,000th+ attempt when the statue activates.
Right. But to be frank she also speaks hearthian in that scene as well. So it's hard to say whether or not that's an ability nomai staffs have. If I had to guess I'd guess they probably do, but I didn't want to assume anything.
If quantum sight carried over from alpha, what if the trick behind nomai statues is that THEY observe you and remember you. Maybe I'm getting to metaphysical, but it wouldn't be far fetched if a quantum computer were capable of quantum observations. Cheesy, I know..
I sort of left it out because I didnt know if the eye had something to do with that. While she does play piano notes in that scene she also speaks in our language. But youre right, I should have added it. Because we still hear it make sounds on the qm when she conjures up those symbols to converse with us.
Honestly, the Nomai seem kind of weak physically, so I wouldn't be surprised if their staffs and maybe some other of their technology inadvertently served as a means of making up for that.
No problems jr. Though I will ask you get your parents permission first if you havent yet! They should be able to help you!(if you dont have their permission dont do it!)
Gravity crystals are purple. Ive always seen the light they use for landing pads and elevator/transporter beams as blue. Maybe I should see a doctor for color blindness?
I think you're looking too far into the 3/4 eyes thing. My guess it's more of a joke and not meant to bear too much significance. The nomai think having three eyes is normal, so the hearthians' fourth one must have some special function.
@@TheLoreExplorer yeah i guess, but Solanum did say herself that she would pitch in to the song and she pulls down some small keys on the staff. I personally think the Nomai rarely used this piano mode, but probably used it for stuff like the festival. I think it's something the staff just happened to have that was useful.
You don't even need multiplayer to see the projection stone thing, just look down while using the projection stone and you'll see yourself made of gold. Since your view is only of the other area, you are seeing your own projection there.
ive done this plenty of time and it must not of registered to me.
I honestly had no clue about this.
Yep, they're basically hologram projectors.
Big brain right here
Can also set up the little scout at one of the destination locations to get a photo of your projection
It gets better... Solanum quickly deduces that you are carrying a device which translates written Nomai text, despite not seeing it in operation before she creates some text for you to translate. She also creates an easy-to-interpret icon representing you in an instant... the other symbols could have come from some kind of clip art library, but not that one.
Wish I could run back to the library and say "Teach me to *write* Nomai script, in less than twenty minutes!"
Well, things are a bit odd on the qm. There really isnt such a thing as quickly. Or slowly. Time is meaningless. But yeah. Making a stone that represents us is basically proof they can make them at will. Good point bud.
I know the devs said the visual textures of Nomai text "don't actually convert to anything and just look cool", but wouldn't it be neat if it did? Or if a fan _makes_ a substitution cipher based on Nomai text, akin to Mario Sunshine's Dolphic language or the Dinotopian Footprint Alphabet? It'd sure be a fun way to "encrypt" notes to yourself...
Also the Hatchling doesn't need to learn it all in _one_ loop, they could gradually learn it over the course of dozens if they had to. Like how O'Neill and Teal'c were taught the writing system on the Ancient time-looping machine over the course of subjective weeks... before Daniel let slip about what a time loop _actually_ means. Granted, their loop length was multiple hours, so it might take half the ATP's loop just to get the museum duo up to speed each time for _why_ you suddenly want to learn to write in Nomaian.
_firing marshmallows into space_ "Hatchling, what the hell are you doing?!" "IN THE MIDDLE OF MY BACKSWING?!?"
maaaaan I remember when I first stumbled on the probe tracking module and found the EotU coordinates I was like “oh those are some pretty cool shapes” because I somehow had NO idea what they were lmao
Late ass reply, but as someone who went to giants deep first and saved bramble til my last like 8 loops there were a lot of times I had answers but didnt know the question.
I got to the vessel after the module so i had no idea XD
We actually did Giant's Deep last and...a lot of head smacking ensued. We spent most of the game going but what was the actual looking for the Eye part of the plan? How were they going to find it? And what the hell are the creepy masks inside the Ash Twin Project projection all about?
"that what we are going to talk about in this loop" when you realise the lore explorer is stuck in time loop and that is why every video start the same
....ive read this comment 123 times....help....please...just shut down the atp. lol
So that's why he posts nothing but Outer Wilds videos...
@@TheLoreExplorer trust me youve been in the loops much longer than that
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@@lindylou538 sadly the loops start blending together after a while, he can’t keep track forever
you forgot an important feature of the staffs!
they can make beautiful piano sounds :)
Yeah. Looking back I should of mentioned it. But I sort of thought maybe the eye had something to do with it.
@@TheLoreExplorer To be fair, her "instrument" you find is her mask, so I think the jury might be out on exactly how. Heck, since the events at the Eye are apparently based on the player's memories, Solanum's piano ability might sadly just be the Eye filling in the gaps, since we never heard or saw evidence of Solanum playing any instrument or music.
@@NightChime we do know the staff can make sounds though. When on the qm she touches her staff to a shard to make little communication stones. As each one pops up different notes seem to play.
@@TheLoreExplorer That's fair. It being piano seemed to come out of left field, though.
@@NightChime For all we know the piano could be what Nomai speech sounds like, and the reason it uses her mask as the instrument is because she's singing.
Cool video! One connection you didn't discuss: At 8:20 you said that we don't find any tools which the Nomai used for mining. But if you look at the bottom of the Timber Hearth mines, you'll see neat circles of rock taken out of the walls, and the holes are about the same diameter as the Artificial Gravity Wells. I think they used the wells for mining, using high-power versions to pull the rock out of the ground and then draw the pieces up. At Timber Heath there is still a horizontal and then vertical well, like a conveyor belt for mined stone. Though the Timber Hearth stone was for the Ash Twin project, we can find circular holes about the same size in many other places in the system, so maybe they did this for regular building materials too.
yeah I found that too and made the exact same connection
Reminder that their staffs are also gravity wands. Solanum used hers to carve stone and float rocks.
Noteworthy: the memory mask animation at the end/start of each loop specifically goes through the THIRD EYE. Basically it looks like that's where the memory stream flows through
Ayyy i know im super late to this. One further bit of evidence that corroborates the nomai's third eye sensitivity is that Solanum is able to IMMEDIATELY tell you have 4 eyes, when in the Self ending you cant even see your face past your visor.
I never really thought about it like that. Our helmet definitely has a golden like coating preventing her from seeing us directly, yet she still knew! Nice catch John!!
I always assumed their third eye moves independently and is the one using the balls to activate stuff. It makes sense from a game perspective (cause you will need to hold stuff and cannot use the action button at all time, especially at the end) but also makes sense as to why Nomai would have it. Why would they pass an easy, hands free way to interact with stuff while carrying more warp cores, especially if they can do it with their third eye?
Damn lore explorer making a video about overlooked technology just like the fact his channel is overlooked and underrated. Not stopping saying this until you get the recognition you deserve these videos show effort man. I hope all the best for the channel
Im starting to get a bit! A pr company has given me a few videos games a few days early! Its not much but its something! lol. Thanks Mr.Peezy. Since im certain thats your real name.
@@TheLoreExplorer next thing is sponsors haha 😂 Then the algorithm will be in your favour
i find it funny how most of nomai's technology is overly complicated (e.g. signs that fix themselves, eye-tracking switches) even tho the nomai are super intelligent beings
Interestingly enough, I find their technology extremely minimalistic, even to a fault
I also thought about the structures the Nomai build and the lack of tools and conversations mentioning it. I figured building stuff is just very easy for them so they don't even mention it much. But...they clearly like decorating things, it's not just functional.
1:23 isn't kinda weird that on Timber Hearth the Nomai were considerate enough not to fuck around too much with the environment so as to not interfere with future evolution of species of the place? And then decide to go blow up the sun?
In theory, the atp and sun's explosion doesn't really hurt anything as long as everything works right. But yeah. There was even a big internal debate on whether or not they should build the sun station.
With the time travel technology, once they found the coordinates to the eye of the universe then they wouldn’t have to blow up the sun to power anything anymore so the sun would have been fine no matter what for another 250k years
To be fair, if they succeeded with the sun explosion we know that the rest of the technology worked, so no damage would’ve been done.
Just wanted to express my appreciation for your videos. I study Language & Linguistics but decided to do my bachelor’s paper on storytelling in video games. I haven’t narrowed it down further than that yet, although I’ve got a few ideas, but it’s really difficult to find proper scholarly sources on videogames, sources that actually treat video games like an interesting piece of art in all its complexity (at least compared to articles on Jane Eyre or Shakespeare). One of my ideas is to research alternative types of storytelling, of which Outer Wilds obviously is a prime example. The lack of proper sources on Google Scholar for example really demotivates me to start researching, but watching your videos makes me feel like I can be part of the conversation too, even though my focus will be completely different from yours. So yeah, thanks, for diving into the lore and technology of the nomai for us, and for keeping us hooked long after we finished the game ^_^
Wow. This is so kind. And very interesting lol. I understand why lack of official sources is demotivating. But I kind of get why thats the case. Video games have many different ways to tell a story, and multiple stories can be told in one experience. Some play throughs are very long and trying to figure out whats going on at times can be hard.
Also, I see a reason for lack of any official study in this area being a motivating idea. Itd sort of be like starting your own field of study. At least if im understanding you right. If you ever need help understanding something in the game let me know! Though I doubt youd want my help for linguistic analysis lol.
@@TheLoreExplorer Oops, only saw this answer now :c Thank you for your answer and offering your help hehe! By now I've narrowed my research question down to narrativity & mental illness in videogames, so I won't be using Outer Wilds, but it could still be interesting for a later project! Sorry for the late answer, and keep making us proud, you're doing great ^^
@@annafaelens how’d your paper turn out?
Yeah, I get that because I honestly think outer wilds would not have been able to portray its story in such a beautiful way if it had been a book or show.
The artificiall gravity wells probably use the gravity crystals in the rings they're inbetween, a bit of evidence is that there is a broken one on brittle hollow which one ring was disconnected from, and it's basically a tiny gravity cannon
Just found out from one of the artists on the game that there was an achievement for knocking all those Nomai rock cairns over with your scout, but it got cut.
That would have been so tedious very glad they didn’t keep that jn
2:41 I always thought the shapes inside the orbs were to make the orb look more spherical and shiny
Possibly the liquid gold is activated by electrical charges? Somewhat similar to how you can make shapes with sound frequencies and sand. The pools have a power source from the eye tracking orb which could give it shape and the stones have a thing on the side of them and when the 2 rocks spin they connect the electrical charge.
5:40 They DEFINITELY don't use gravity crystals for one clear reason - they're all over the sunless city! The gravity crystal tech was discovered from Brittle Hollow's rocks, which is why the Hanging City uses plenty of crystals and the Sunless City uses none - but they both use those gravity wells you talk about. Although its possible that when the escape pod colonies reunited, they shared technology and built them into the Sunless City later, the fact that the Sunless City uses no gravity crystals is pretty damning evidence to support my theory. Additionally, they both had access to gravity cannons, though these might have been built after reuniting, because they also both had warp abilities which were revolutionised by the Brittle Hollow colony ::)
If I had to guess there are three lights inside the moving lightballs because you need three lines to pinpoint a position in three dimensional space. If there were only two, it wouldnt know wether to move 1 meter towards or 9999 meters directly opposite of us
I think the projection liquid at 3:00 is the same as at 4:00, but it is used in a different way.
He literally says that
At mining site 2A, at timber hearth, you can actually see the mining holes being made by the elevator beams :3
From beginning of my own gameplay it hits me in which style they make their conversations. Texts are mostly short messages connected to one another by ends as the conversation develops into
threads. They does this in pretty similiar way to how Twitter developed their responds style, or how comments on Reddit work and I can't stop thinking about it this way.
That was a solid review of their day-to-day tech! The one exception that stood out to me was the gravity walkways (patterned glowing surfaces), though that seems like a generalization of the gravity stone technology. None of their devices seem to need active power sources, from the distress beacons to the gravity tech to whiteboards, all seem to be trucking along fine after several hundred thousand years, which is wild. I did like that we get to see multiple generations of technology; e.g. the gravity canons and ships were useful until they re-invented warp technology.
The staff can also play music as shown at the eye
solanum speaks hearthian at the eye as well though. That detail left me skeptical about whether or not I could trust that. But we can also hear it play tones on the qm as she makes those symbols so I prob should of put it in.
self reassembling rocks are definitely the most interesting technology
defiantly nothing more interesting
not gravity manipulation
rocks
Yeah man have you seen a blue rock
hey...it took like 30 seconds lol. I think i said "cool party trick"
Definitely*?
Most likely that's how the pyramids were built and not by us
I didn’t even know about this until the video so I think it definitely meets the bar for an “overlooked” technology.
when the Nomai carved out the stones for conversation, I thought they were just pointing to some symbols they already had on the wall, like they were expecting us.
Didn't think they used the tablet to write them and carve out the stones for us, you do a whole lot to let people appreciate the little details that we'd pass by. Thanks for posting!
Still at it I see :) So glad I just bought the game for a second time now on Steam.. and it has Ultrawide support out of the box! No longer needing to mod it. It's nice they listen to the fans, makes me gleeee. Also I really want to play this with the MP mod with someone
I always wanted to see the face of our character before he puts on his space suit, he has a shadow outline..
new emoji awesome
Also the video was good I guess you could the staff a noma-I pad
what i find intresting about the staff is it can also play music, seen during the main ending when everyone's playing at once
Love watching the vids homie
Who doesnt
I'm not fully convinced that the Nomai staves are what allow them to manipulate and rearrange matter. I feel like they have the innate ability to manipulate matter (and even see matter to an extent with which other beings can't, like using their third eye as you mentioned), and they use the staves as appendages just because it's more convenient than putting the staff down on the ground to do things. I think that the staff does help manipulate matter more precisely, in order to draw glyphs and icons for example (much like we can cut ordinary material with our hands but the action is more precise with say, a knife or a scissor), but they aren't at all the source of their "telekenetic" abilities.
Actually, now that you mention it. They seem to be able to imbue this ability into other things as well. Such as the projection pools and signs that return to their location if knocked over! Ill have to think on it more! Great catch Kix!
@@TheLoreExplorer yeah! Thanks for pointing that out too! That makes more sense if they can actually imbue inanimate objects with their "psychic". It also follows that a lot of their technology might be imbued with it as well (memory statues, gravity wells, etc.)
Great video, neat things to cover. Number of times you've said the word "actually," it gets a bit distracting: 0:38 - 1:06 - 1:18 - 1:35 - 1:50 - 3:36 - 3:42 - *4:08** - **4:18** - **4:24** - **4:41** - **4:45** - **5:02** - **5:05** - **5:09** - **5:14* - 6:03 - 6:06 - 6:36 - 6:44 - 7:40
2:19 the third eye could also be used to control these, maybe the nomai can move their third eye independently from the other two allowing them to control their things without altering what they are focusing their vision towards
One think that also easy to not understand (at leadt imo) is the fact that Orange Nomai Text mean that its been received from another location and blue text means it was written here (or at least that how i understood it)
How do we know the Nomai haven't discovered gravity crystals before they arrived at the solar system? It seems like they often used the crystals as a sort of "quick and dirty" form of gravity alteration, much easier to pick up, use, re-use, and/or leave behind than the more intricate "gravity pathways". It's pretty likely, to me, that the Nomai would use the crystals when they're exploring a new planet or solar system back when they traveled through space, and that just... Translated conveniently to the way things worked here in the solar system!
i guess there is no way of knowing if they had discovered them before they lost access to them by crashing the vessel. But we do know they need unique material to create. it requires crust from brittle hollow(or others like it) that has intrinsic gravitational properties inherent to it. And if they knew about that they likely wouldnt of waited so long to create them while stranded on brittle hollow. they could of also used them is the vessel or escape pods if it was something they already had.
@@TheLoreExplorer super old comment, but isn't it explicitly said in the bramble pod logs that they had gravity crystals as standard kit? They use them to create a path from the pod to the signal in bramble (you follow their glow to find them huddled round the seed), and the logs from brittle hollow mention using them to create a path from their escape pod to the spot they built the hanging city- we follow them to find the city from their pod.
@@MysterousBear no? there is no gravity crystals in the vessel, brambles escape pod 3, or anywhere in bramble. The Nomai left lights as a trail to follow if they needed a way back, which is what we follow to find them. the path to the hanging city is indeed grav crystals. but the path to the temporary city from the escape pod is made from wood. The Nomai discovered/invented gravity crystals on brittle hollow from its crust. so there is basically no way they had them when they arrived.
@@TheLoreExplorer Oh man, fair enough! Recently finished the game for the first time (blown away), and haven't had time to go back and solidify everything I saw: I remembered those lights being grav stones, but I'd take your word on it every day of the week.
Thanks for all the content, I've been pawing over it ever since I finished!
Glad you enjoy it. There's plenty of stuff here for you to binge and learn. Feel free to ask if you have any more questions!
If the Nomai's third eye could see every quantum state of an object, then presumably they would also see the quantum moon around every planet? But the Nomai call the quantum moon "The Disappearing Moon" so obviously the third eye has a different function.
I'm pretty sure I specified that was the alpha nomai I thought that for. I think the Nomai we know can just see things at the atomic level if they want.
@@TheLoreExplorer Didn't the QM also exist in the alpha anyway?
Kinda funny how both the nomai and the strangers have staff too
Great video, as with all the rest of yours exploring Outer Wilds.
Quick thing on the 'fixing signs'. I wonder if it was in reference to the N64 Zelda games? A similar thing happens when you play certain Ocarina songs next to a destroyed sign in OoT and MM, it reassembles in pretty much the exact same way. Wouldn't surprise me given the MM reference in one of the achievements but it does make me happy to see. God I love stories with time loops!
Absolutely! In the noclip doc the lead dev mentions that outer wilds is heavily influenced by zelda. He didn't like how hand holdy it was. And he thought it was suoer cool they'd show images that you could then go find in the world!
@@TheLoreExplorer Thanks for bringing that documentary to my attention! Hilarious that Alex had such a strong reaction towards Skyward Swords linearity that it basically inspired OW 😂 Can't blame him, good game but very dissappointing.
Actually very interesting to look at the similarities between Breath of the Wild (Zeldas next game after SS) and OW. Both are somewhat a direct result of Skyward Swords linear design, and accomplish their goals in similar ways (can complete the game in any order, exploration based on clues, dialogue and visual intrigue, possible to beat the game straight away if you have the knowledge to do so). Really no wonder why I loved OW so much as a massive Zelda fan.
hi TLE! i have a small point of contention with your point about the nomai eye. simply put, the fact that the nomai wondered "what the hearthian's fourth eye does" paired with the fact that it does not have any extraordinary function is exactly the same as us two-eyed humans wondering what the nomai third eye does, when there is very scant evidence to prove it does anything other than see!
I have a more recent video on this. "Is the Nomais third eye special" or something like that. There are a few solid hints the Nomais 3rd eye does something special aside from their seemingly random question about the 4th eye. Which I largely ignored for a long time. Specifically on the sun station. They mention "seeing infinitesimally small surface changes that were barely visible. Even to the third eye". Which imo is a solid , if not definite, indication it does do something different/special.
We also know they do and know quite extraordinary things. Such as imbuing information into stones with their staff with nary a word and hardly any movement. Or using projection pools and actually being able to sort of see whatever location youre projecting to. We also see them with telekinetic powers of sorts. None of this proves anything. But their vast knowledge and abilities could be explained by a new capability that evolved only after generations of space travel.
And we know their third eye specifically, even if only symbolically, is where they depict info transfers via the statue. When the loop occurs we see the statue and all the memories pour into their third eye. Along with the notion that they are seemingly enlightened. Or in other words "They have their third eye opened". Just all the little things together paint a deeper picture than just a throw away wondering line.
Solanum also uses the staff to play the distinctive nomai synth in the ending.
It's such a small, but important detail. I hadn't noticed the air line from the tank to the mask.
Of course having that line on the outside of the suit increases the chance that the suit's air supply is cut.
Though now I'm wondering *why?* Why it was intentionally made on the outside? All the suits and helmets are the same (correct me if I'm wrong). Was there some kind of modularity in the suits or functional sacrifice that warranted the suits have that line on the outside? Or did the designer just not think about the implications of having the air line on the outside of the suit?
It is a small detail but I think they just wanted a way to visually show that the big tank on the back of their head is actually an oxygen tank. That was actually lost on me until I saw the tube.
@@TheLoreExplorer Have you ever wondered why the Anglerfish stay in Dark Bramble? According to a piece of paper in the Hearthian museum, they can survive out in space. At least for a short enough time for a young one to be found and contained.
I'm going off memory so I may be misremembering how the baby anglerfish was captured
@@sam_wilds It latched onto the legs of a nearby spaceship and survived the flight back to timber. I think they dont leave because they cant really. since they cant see they cant really try to find an exit. Plus, if they did, theyd just be out in space. with no food, oxygen or fog or whatever they breathe, and no real way of getting anywhere in open space. its hard to say really. anglerfish are a mystery.
@@TheLoreExplorer Oh right, I forgot about the whole sight thing. Duh
Are we gonna ignore the fact that the nomai got true randomness
Im not sure what this is meant to mean. so maybe i overlooked something.
@@TheLoreExplorer I think he's talking about how the probe goes to a random location every start of loop
Really? The probe launcher itself has data of all previous launches.
The shape-taking liquid is likely ferrofluid if I had to guess.
Btw this is unrelated to this video but my theory is that the universe is eternal (which is kind of pointed out at the fact that we see the big bang of a child universe at the end of the game).
So as far as we know, black holes only grow in size and keep on eating matter and energy. Slowly black holes will merge into one giant black hole and the mass which the black hole ate creates only one child universe.
Every separate black hole transports planets, stars and other matter to this new universe (in pieces... literally atoms or even quarks or gluons) and we know that time is linear but when we are looking at multiple black holes, time is flowing normally for us on this side. Over on that side, the entire lifespan of our universe condenses into only a fraction of time moments after the big bang. So mass and energy are conserved. The mass of the massive black hole which has now replaced the entirety of our universe will now slowly decay it's mass by Hawking radiation and will transmit inside through the black hole to the child universe and this energy somehow converts itself into dark energy and dark matter which is ever lasting in the child universe's lifespan and will cause the acceleration of the child universe (just like ours).
And this process is eternal. We are constantly looping through one big bang which creates another universe only for it to do the same. Thus time is eternal too. Time which can only be perceived by a conscious observer is a byproduct of the energy produced by the decaying giant black hole from the mother universe converting itself into dark matter, dark energy, light and matter in the child universe and is the mediator between all of them.
Oh and immediately after the child universe is created, it attains properties like emergence, entropy and particles existing as both wave and matter at the same time. The quantum phenomena which the double slit experiment exposes is only an emergent behavior between consciousness (which is also emergent and quantum in nature) and the wave properties of particles.
hmmm have you seen my videos on my views of the universe? I basically think its an infinite, cyclical, quantum universe. The only problem with this theory is in ow black holes dont grow. They expell the matter that would make it grow from the white hole. So their size seems determined from the get go.
BUT, I think the eye is a black hole, so youre basically still right anyway lol
@@TheLoreExplorer in OW we don't come across a natural black hole. The black holes created by the Nomai have white holes for the purpose of transporting objects through space. Also in our world, white holes are only a theory and we haven't observed them. In our world, black holes rip objects apart atom by atom and in their world they don't (at least the ones formed by the Nomai). So yeah some parts are similar and some are different.
@@TheLoreExplorer the universe could be infinite in the sense that the universe is contained in a large finite 4D space (which we can't even simulate) and the transformation from that 4D space to 3D in our world creates the illusion of it being infinite but the fact is that the laws of physics prevent you from reaching the end and the 'end' is ever growing thus making it seem infinite. Just my theory anyways.
@@SahilP2648 the black hole at brittle is a natural black hole....
@@TheLoreExplorer oh it is? Was it mentioned in the lore? If so I must have missed it. But the Nomai could indeed create black and white holes and they also created the warp technology we see in their gravity cannon flinged spaceships and our scout.
I think gravity rings made from gravity crystals. They have same colour, both manipulate gravity.
if they have the ye of the universe coordinates stored on thier liqiued projection thingie, what was preventing them from just going there?
They all died before the first probe ever launched to find the eye. They weren’t around by the time it stored the coordinates.
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That seems neat, but I feel like we are in the caveman territory, trying to understand what modern tech is.
Or, worse, we are in the dolphin category, not even having the same anatomic structure and maybe perceiving color differently, for instance.
Well, while we may end up with a pretty neat ideas, we still may think that a computer only has 1 button, which turns it on, making it a worse version of the light bulb.
Or that the computer screen is the processing unit, or that the video call is teleportation, or that the video player is time travel.
Of course I am taking it to the extremes, but let me offer a few different ideas, which still have this problem.
Gravity tech: a lot of Nomai stuff manipulates gravity, but (unless we see the names in the game code) some of the tech might be other forces based, maybe magnetic, maybe micro structure based. Those include: switch spheres, gravity wells, Nomai shuttle landing beams.
The liquid (?) display thingy: it may be just an elaborate 3d monitor. It may just arrange the liquid into shapes in any conceivable way: gravity, micro, wait, I already named them.
The projection pools and boards: I think that the conversations are stored either on the boards the conversation were on or some kind of main server.
The projection stones are nothing more then a username, IP, tag, whatever you want to call it. This would explain being able to access a conversation using any copy of a stone. For instance, you can read the ATP-Mine conversation from the Mine board using the: ATP stone at Mines, ATP stone at the probe tracking module, ATP stone at the statue workshop. Any ATP stone will do, is what I am saying.
The switch balls: I don't know if they have electricity in them, maybe it's some form of energy, maybe it's just some "chips", determining your looking position and responsible for movement, maybe it's just an indicator, which lights up like a light bulb wire.
While we may rule out some theories, like the information of projection conversations being stored on projection stones, can you see I actually disagree with that yet, we still may end up with a lot of conflicting theories, which we have no way to differentiate between.
Some of it may even not have been though through during the development process. Some may rely on fields of physics we don't yet know about.
1.) This is obviously less of a deep dive and more of a shallow view of many technologies i feel were overlooked.
2.) ill note if you go back in the video and in our conversations on discord i literally never said the conversations were stored in the stones. I said info was. Which it is.(What location the stone connects to/is the key to which conversation)
3.)I literally said in the video, when solanum put visual info on the stones "This is what we see with the projection stones too". Proving days ago, when i wrote the script, the conversation being stored in the stone was never even considered, and thats something you completely made up on your own and ran with.
4.)As Nettakrim and i sort of figured out in about 10 minutes, it seems the projection stones all have a location on them. The board to plug them into has a stone built in, which makes them a pair. We see the conversation between that combination when we plug them in. I think the conversations are stored in the base(or built in stone) connected to the board. Thats maybe what you were trying to say, but i took it as the actual board itself.
5.)I still think the information is sort of isolated on those bases. I dont think there is some kind of nomai internet where its all stored like the memories. But I could be wrong.
@@TheLoreExplorer well, you did say that the information was stored on 2 stones as the conversation went on, suggesting (to me) the stones were logging the dialogue...
Except we've seen the nomai and they are anatomically similar...
@@mongrel444 well, yes, but they do have different bone structure and the sight is definitely different.
Anyway, I don't think you will be comfortable in those beds of theirs...
right. this would actually be both bases. or the built in stones. Theyd both store the same conversation. but one would be in the atp, unlocked by the mines projection stone. and one would be in the mines, unlocked by the atp projection stone. This is because two people had the conversation, maybe even more. but its still isolated to those two places. as far as i understand anyway.
I believe the nomai third eye can take a snapshot of an image and keep it like an eye floater
Nice video man
Glad you enjoyed it!
That's really nice
@@hllyenaylleth9576 ::D I’m glad you enjoyed it!
If you look at the pool i thinkt there is a black hole holder like on the teleport squares i think not sure that why they teleport i guess
Are those images in projection stone in real time?
I mean if you place your probe in one room where the projection stone shows and view it via another stone. can you see your probe?
Yes.
Wait so, the Nomai created the statue to basically pair with ones mind and bring them back when they die right? And didn’t some of the Nomai do this as well? So if so, then how are the Nomai dead since they would be stuck in a never ending loop? I’m really confused about this game so there is probably an answer to this
well, no. The nomai statues are paired with a nomais mind. But all it does is send those memories back in time. It doesnt just bring people back to life. Also, only one Nomai tested this technology before the ash twin projects was activated. So no Nomai ever sent memories through the projects. And no Nomai are currently connected to it. The 3 active statues represent us, gabbro, and the orbital probe canons tracking module.
Not only what Lore Explorer said, but the statues don’t actually activate until the Sun goes Supernova.
@@nickcalderon2637 yeah ik
@@nickcalderon2637 Technically, it's the Probe finding something that activates them. Because the loop is already on its 9,000,000th+ attempt when the statue activates.
they can also use their staves to play music, as seen in the ancient glade
Right. But to be frank she also speaks hearthian in that scene as well. So it's hard to say whether or not that's an ability nomai staffs have. If I had to guess I'd guess they probably do, but I didn't want to assume anything.
Why does the statue synced with us instead of another hearthiangs?
If quantum sight carried over from alpha, what if the trick behind nomai statues is that THEY observe you and remember you. Maybe I'm getting to metaphysical, but it wouldn't be far fetched if a quantum computer were capable of quantum observations. Cheesy, I know..
But that way it wouldnt be able to see your memories
Do you think if the interloper didn’t kill all the nomai then the nomai would have found the stranger?
Outerwilds could make a great multiplayer game if coded correctly
You forgot a feature of the staff it can be played like an instrument
I sort of left it out because I didnt know if the eye had something to do with that. While she does play piano notes in that scene she also speaks in our language. But youre right, I should have added it. Because we still hear it make sounds on the qm when she conjures up those symbols to converse with us.
They love whiter granite kitchen tile.
3:00
projection pools
Honestly, the Nomai seem kind of weak physically, so I wouldn't be surprised if their staffs and maybe some other of their technology inadvertently served as a means of making up for that.
hey lore im trying to buy the membership but it wont let me put in my information so you can expect me to buy it soon :)
No problems jr. Though I will ask you get your parents permission first if you havent yet! They should be able to help you!(if you dont have their permission dont do it!)
Did anyone else spend a lot of time playing with the lights?
Lol yeah, *flickflickflickflick*.
ACAB.
@@mangonectar8117 lmao it's a picture dude
I've never played the game but I would've probably done that
Where is the gravity well at 5:45?
The tower of Quantum Trails on Giants Deeps North Pole(inside the giant tornado)
@@TheLoreExplorer forgot that even existed
pretty sure the gravity wells are purple, not blue
Gravity crystals are purple. Ive always seen the light they use for landing pads and elevator/transporter beams as blue. Maybe I should see a doctor for color blindness?
I think you're looking too far into the 3/4 eyes thing. My guess it's more of a joke and not meant to bear too much significance. The nomai think having three eyes is normal, so the hearthians' fourth one must have some special function.
Can I eat the goo
I was going to play the game, stopped to watch
Now back to the game
Sorry to correct you but.... it's may have
It's a very common mistake though
No need to be sorry! Thanks for saving me from looking like an idiot! lol(even though i doubt ill remember...sorry)
You forgot that the staff plays music too
It crossed my mind while making it. But tbh im not sure if the eye had any say in that...if that make sense? It clearly changes things up!
@@TheLoreExplorer yeah i guess, but Solanum did say herself that she would pitch in to the song and she pulls down some small keys on the staff. I personally think the Nomai rarely used this piano mode, but probably used it for stuff like the festival. I think it's something the staff just happened to have that was useful.