Indigenous Voice to Parliament is 'just wrong': Tony Abbott
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
- Former Prime Minister Tony Abbott says remote Australia has kids not going to school with adults not working and a Voice to Parliament is “yet another bureaucracy” not going to help the real issues as “it’s just wrong”.
“There are certainly big problems but creating another bureaucracy isn’t going to help,” Mr Abbott told Sky News host Gary Hardgrave.
“This idea that yet another meeting in Canberra, yet another bureaucracy in Canberra is somehow going to get the kids to school, the adults to work and the community safe.
“It’s just wrong.”
I’ll be voting NO.
I will vote no the continuation of your oxygen supply and that of your murdouche scum boyfriend bolt ( in the neck👍) .
Add up the refusniks, the Noalition and the Skynuts and you get twenty percent of Australia. 😊😉
Australians voices don’t mean shit to the politicians.
It's the same in every country
yeah well politicians dont mean shit to us
Aboriginal voices don't mean squat to politicians either.
When the minister for Aboriginal Affairs wouldn't talk to the Elders that traveled across the country to Parliment House to talk, We have proof The Voice is a farce, a front for something they are too ashamed to say in plain language.
It's decietful and devisive!
I grew up in a country where we were all equal, but now it seems one group of Australians are more special than the rest
Yes.Australia not just about white,heterosexual , toxic males.Get a reality check. Bigotry and hate and climate change denialism not acceptable.
Sign your life away Australia because of you know 'The Vibe'. Hopefully Australians are smarter than this.
It’s a Huge No from me …..
we all bleed red blood all humans …..enough division 🤬
Great comment and 100% correct.
Vote NO NO NO
There are plenty indigenous members in parliament who already have a voice.
All Australian's should be treated equally, like Tony said
It should not be based on skin colour.
But it doesn’t work
@@kylewhittle6565 it works just as well for all, not our fault Labor and Liberal block them from owning homes/Land, most things that happen in parliament, none of us have a say, indigenous or not....need to change who's in parliament not the constitution.
Just remember ATSIC as you tick NO
ATSIC didn't that stand for Aborig1nals talking sh1t in Canberra !!!
Your comment displays an utter ignorance of what a voice is. You clearly have taken no time to understand or gain any knowledge of the issue whatsoever. To compare ATSIC with a voice is so unbelievably stupid is to defy belief.
Well said Mr Abbott you explained this very clear and as usual gracious, I hope Australia will listen.
United not divided One country one voice 🇦🇺
Amen!
How will it divide Australia if Aboriginals are part of Australia?
You sound like a racist
Sorry but they like being divided ,
I'm voting NO 👁️🖕🏾👁️
CCP members in China don't get a ballot !
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The Voice is ATSIC 2.0 with extra bureaucracy and legislation. Watch the gravy train for indigenous grifters and everyone else become second class citizens
It’s been that way for a while the thing is most aboriginal people don’t understand how to take advantage of the privileges that have been given to them. I am part indigenous myself and have worked in a land council in Brisbane in the early 2000’s, most “Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders” were not even aboriginal and only identified. We wasted thousands of dollars on pointless programs etc that never helped anyone. The white aboriginal employees all seemed to buy themselves and their families brand new cars and they owned homes while the ones who actually needed help and were indigenous got nothing
White racists ensure Indigenous failure.Crime and high incarcercation are the result.
@@Cobber2023 Sounds pretty accurate, and I can't help but think this will end up going the same way. Surely there are politicians already thinking of ways that can exploit and take advantage of the policy when it comes into effect.
NO to Australian Apartheid, plain and simple.
It is plainly putting a lobby group into the constitution. Indigenous people will have two avenues on government policy, the local member, and the Voice. They get two bites of the cherry on policy when I can only have one. Is that fair?
It will also be used to ram through legislation that has nothing to do with Aboriginals, i.e. climate legislation.
Correct
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NO
I usually don’t agree with Tony Abbott but this time I agree with him 100%
So you didn’t agree with his putting Pauline in jail for no good reason??
Do you agree with him making it non compulsory to vote for same sex marriage then having in mail in voting???
Or how bout mandating jabs for preschoolers ?????
Want more ??
I got them all on a MASSIVE database
@@bullshitstomper9417 he is not the PM lol that’s Anfony Airbosneezy Tony has no say go and learn about politics before voicing your opinion lol I don’t agree with woke crap I’m never voting yes to an aboriginal voice to parliament Pauline Hanson is a politician who can’t be trusted lol she helped Labor win the election 🤣🤣🤣 do you know what a preference is lol
@@bullshitstomper9417 lol Pauline is not an innocent bystander she’s a politician and she is all for whatever the government have in store for us lol if you think she has never done anything worthy of jail time you clearly don’t understand politics. Every last one of the liars should be in Gaol but people think this is America and spell jail like we live in the USA 🤣🤣🤣 people still are crying that Scomo didn’t open borders lol do you want to know why Scomo didn’t open the borders?
It was because he had no power lol it’s up to the state to close or open their border it’s right their in our constitution we don’t have amendments or a President this is AUS not USA lol
So this comment has been highlighted and removed so people can’t see it lol what a great feeling it is living in a “Democratic Country” like Australia lol you point facts out and you get censored
There is absolutely no way this should get through.
It wouldn't surprise if the yes vote got up. People in this country have lost the plot and the left will use whatever means necessary.
The Voice has very little benefit for the indiginous, but a lot of opportunity for those who want to turn Australia into a WOKE infested socialist republic.
2nd chamber of unelected lefty elites from academia with veto powers --- ANTIDEMOCRATIC RABBLE
For that is the only reason the left is pushing this so hard. Sefl-interest and a way to gain power and control forever regardless of elections.
@@kevin_g1164 left are gaming system to grab power to create socialist republic by stealth and hoodwwinking the voters to conceal their power grab using the goodwill of aussies to rectify aboriginal disadvantage as a pretext to cover their devious tactic to usurp control and get the free pass to rewrite the constitution to their favour
@@kevin_g1164 spot on 100%
How would it be abused exactly?
Vote NO.
How can BigTech be even allowed to interfere with OZ constitution=yet another fragmentation
With Too many voices all you end up with is a whole lot of noise and a reduction in substance.
It will happen regardless of the harm it causes. Australia is spiralling downwards. The Australia I grew up in has become unreasonable in the last 10 year's. Almost no longer the lucky country 😢 💔
Mate the Australian dream died when Bob Hawke was the PM lol I find it funny that an incompetent Gronk with a tafe certificate and no clue about economics and started his political career in Bobs cabinet will be the clown who drives the last nail into Australia’s coffin
@@Cobber2023 this started way before Bob Hawk but Bob Hawke was a major NWO supporter and played a vital role in selling Australia off and helping destroy any future our industry had.
Good. May Australia spiral into oblibian. A racist, sexist and lgbt hating country. Treaty before Voice. Country and land rights must be protected.
@@leonharrison800 I can't wait for antibiotics to become useless and attack all the STI carriers in the world.
@@alidarke3132
That really is a nasty comment. Are these the values your religion has taught you? Nothing wrong with sex including Gay and Lesbian sex. And nothing wrong with promiscuity if consensual and safe.
With all the other challenges we face as a country this is what the government decides to spend "our" time & money on. Disgraceful!
Our governments following America's lead.. I watch American UA-cam, so I know what we're in for.. rang tafe to look into a course for my son, got asked if I was female, male or non binary.. I don't think my daughter will be going to uni with the way Americans' universities are, didn't bring her up to have her indoctrinated by the woke..
No situational awareness (ALP couldn't careless about what matters to the people) the ALP are pursuing their wn Marxist agenda as ALP are obsessed with radically changing the foundational underpinnings of the nation and replacing it with their left-wing communistic republic and earn themselves a place in history
@Fark Schwab he does a great job impersonating a professional athlete while the country is flooding
Albanese went to Australians and promised to do this. He got elected. Surely you back politicians who keep their promises.
@@turnerfamilyinozi Hey Dopey wake-up !! The coward Albonazzi only promised to have a referendum about the voice to give the choice to the people as distinct from a promise to impose the voice without a referendum as you are now stupidly suggesting (had Albozo tried to impose the voice without areferendum he would have been unable to do so as he would not have had legal standing to amend the constitution without first having conducted a successful referendum
The idea that a nation needs a voice other than the voters in there is ridiculous. We do not need to apologise to people who had no interest in setting up a nation
And who are you to say that? But racists never apologize do they?
@@cozzazee4043 oh yes the voice of the pathetic left claiming racist at the first sign of division. What a weak individual and obviously uneducated in their beliefs. PS my family will be voting a big NO at referendum.
@@cozzazee4043best you say sorry then,cause right now you seem kinda suss.
@Cozza Zee : It is simply fact !
@@cozzazee4043 Time for the aboriginal to recognise the problem is their own ancestors, keeping them locked in the stone age.
Great to hear Tony Abbotts views.
The mad monk / Dr No - irrelevant, onion eating scum : views 😂🖕🖕.
Australians should not be divided on race. Should we have a female voice to Parliament, etc? Heck no.
We should have intelligent people in parliament no matter what race or gender they are . Leaders should be great thinkers with their eye on what is the greater good for a nation and the people in it across the board.
Given the wage discrepancy, women need a voice to parliament.
Tony we need you back!!!
For target practice. Onions.
Tony is spot on! 'One people under one flag' should be the catch cry of aĺl citizens in this great nation.
Tony Abbott is not afraid to speak the truth.
He is actually one of a few who can actually recognise and articulate the truth...
@@cristinah7547 Keep sucking up to the irrelevant onion eating scum. He needs all the help he can get.
Truth is he’s garbage and put Pauline in jail
He speaks it only when it serves his agenda. Once he stated he was a true friend of China. He also allowed other countries to buy up Australia. Today he continues the same hypocrisy.
Truth and a politician is like mixing oil with water. It does not mix. The political institution is the most corrupt part of all societies.
There is not enough people watching this!
CAMPAIGN AN NO VOTE
You can't pick up that stick! That stick is sacred... You can't sit on that rock! My grandfather spat on that rock. That's a sacred rock.
Tony did more than any other politician ever.
For fascist dogs, yeah.
@@spikeprotein5924 ST FU LWFW
Incorrect
LEFTISM 😈😈
Keep sucking up to the irrelevant mad monk. He will give you an onion from behind.
Come on Tony, get back into Parliament. We need your no-nonsense assistance and a voice of reason.
Tony Abbott, is one of the most intelligent men of our time.
I'll listen to him, vote NO to the voice.😎🇦🇺 Australia is one nation not 3 countries.
If you think he is the most intelligent men of our time you should really broaden your scope a little more.
We appreciate you speaking up against this madness, Tony. But the campaign against the Voice had better get busy, because it is sounding like the Voice has a great chance of success. Australians have long abandoned critical thinking and courage.
Dutton was far too late in making a decision . This should have been said back 9 months ago .
What is the details of this voice to parliament before we decide our answer? They have not released the details so how do we know what to say? We can’t just vote blindly
@@jackanderson4797 it’s funny that In Victoria no health advice has ever been released to the public yet
You don’t need specific details as these can be sorted out by legislation in parliament. Each political party can then decide how to structure the voice. This is just understanding how a constitution works 101.
@@pwillis1589 they need details such as : does the voice from the native people get put into law or are they just suggested ideas,can sombody who identity’s as aboriginal even with 0 aboriginal roots be part of the voice because they “feel” they identify as aboriginal? Will there be family blood line checks to see if they are decent from aboriginal family tree etc
@@Stew-D1987 Answers which are already public knowledge to your questions.
1. A voice is only an advisory body. It has no power to enact laws.
2. No, there is a process you need to go through to be accepted as an indigenous person.
3. Yes this is already in place. It is part of the process in identifying as aboriginal.
@@pwillis1589
So no need to molest the Constitution.
The ALP can put their ideas up for a vote in Parliament.
VOTE no
Give them an inch and they'll take a mile. Everyone is Australian now. Bringing up history is never a good thing, it will never provide a cohesive society.
Wise words Mr Abbott, thank you...
Wise words from dr no, the irrelevant onion eating scum 😂😂.
Tony you make sense you make albo and his mob look like a dummies.
I don’t use fakebook anymore you get banned for defending yourself
You think YT or Gooble are any better lol
@@axle.australian.patriot I haven’t had my account banned for voicing my opinion on UA-cam yet. And I take everything I read on Google with a grain of salt mate. I’m not for giving people who identify as aboriginal more rights and privileges than the generations of Australians who fought in wars to protect this land and gave these aboriginals not First Nations people the rights and freedoms they have now.
@@Cobber2023 You have been lucky if if you have managed to not get shadow banned. P.S. In case you don't know, you will not know that you have been shadow banned unless you check your posts/comments from a completely unconnected account (That's why it's called shadow banning). You will see your posts, others will not.
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Don't be offended by this.
If you use common Babyish language (common on text platforms) you are usually OK, but if you attempt to explain something with a higher level of language use or have complex contexts and the YT language algorithm doesn't understand it, it will often default to flagging it as inappropriate and "Err on the safe side" so to speak.
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I grew up in a world of mixed cultures with high indigenous numbers. We never had this idea of different or us and them and expression of racist remarks were extremely rare. Most racist comments that I encountered, and they were few, were during heated arguments between mainland indigenous and Island indigenous. But our first mums, second mums 3rd mums, or dads were all family regardless of colour.
So I don't really see why we are suddenly going backwards in this regard as the us and them thing is somewhat foreign for me.
How true Tony ..
He jabbed preschoolers
Locked up Pauline
We already have 2 classes of citizens.
The sensible majority and the braindead sky 'news' viewers.
Stand up Australia, and stop this Division and Hatred and creating Victim hood , every person is Accountable for there own mess , stay United as Australians
Every word is fact,
You have stated.🤓
Tony Abbott was the only politician condemning Andrews desecration of The Shrine of Remberance, he's a clever bloke who is underestimated by many but I reckon he's overstepped the mark calling Lydia Thorpe articulate
If only Abbott was still in. Our country wouldn't be going to Shite.
Lmao based on what? He is the one who started the massive debt, broke promises, cut Medicare and schools lmao
There's a reason the dud couldn't even keep his seat let alone the support of his own party. You have short memories. There hasn't been a decent conservative leader in Australia for decades
@@binmcbin1890 WRONG dumb RRRse In 2013 LNP Inherited $350 Billion of ALP Rudd/Juliar/Krudd - In 2007 ALP inherited ZERO Federal Government debt from LNP under PM Howard/Treasurer Costello
Replaced by Zali Steggall, with the help of Getup socialist thugs.
@@info88w11 How are you enjoying your breakfast - 💩 on toast.
@info88w11 why are you talking about people who aren't abbott? Lmao. Abbott almost doubled the debt Rudd accumulated without a gfc to contend with lmao (by gdp%, the only worthy metric). He didnt have a gfc and he blew forward estimates through massive handouts to corps.
He made cuts to essential services and failed to fulfil his promise of reducing the budget by $30 bill and instead added $60 billion lmao. He was the one who even cancelled the debt ceiling! Lmao.
He was a dud it's why he was thrown out with the rest of the rubbish.
You just have a short memory
P.S.S. I grew up without racial division or prejudice, lived my life without it. I feel sorry for all the good indigenous people I have grown up with and called family, but if this vote goes through they will just be nothing more than the privileged enemy, the "Others".
Axle Axle. Australians dont call themselves "patriots", it is an american thing associated with right wing US nutjobs. You you be far more patriotic if you spoke australian.
@@paulchilds9137 I am quite nationalistic in my views and somewhat patriotic. Patriotic is widely used within Australia, so there is nothing "USA Right wing Nut Job" about that... I don't live in the USA or under the USA system.
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Predominantly this account is for pushing back against foreign propaganda and interference with a particular emphasis on Chyna and Ruzzia.
My academic studies see this entire voice thing as a subtle extension of Marxist ideologies and social propaganda exported out of Ruzzia and Chyna. I think it is my duty to call out foreign interference ether directly or indirectly. aka, protecting Australia's interests. There is no real underlying partisan or political basis in that.
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Speaking Australian. I have spoken Australian as my predominant language for over 50 years and can speak "Verbally" using most Australian dialects, although as an academic I prefer a more formal approach with text... Except for when I am taking the p_ss out of somebody or something :)
@@axle.australian.patriot you are being deceptive with me. I told you that australians do not use the word patriot, that it is overwhelmingly used by americans, originally for people who fought against the british in the war of independence. It is now used by moron MAGA people to infer that democrats are not patriots like they are. We do not want this US word with all its nasty hatreds in australia.
While we use the word patriotism, we do not use patriot. You also say you have done academic study into russia and china and their nasty communist ways. That is not true, as well. No place of higher learning would teach the drivel you are going on with.
@@paulchilds9137 Since when did you become the language and culture authority of Australia, Go slap yourself lol
@@axle.australian.patriot i think i have far better qualifications than you to talk about australian speech and culture. You said you did academic study on russia and china. Bullshit. Watching FOX, enrolling in trump university or other right wing junk is not academic study.
Woke politics will be our downfall.
As an Australian I recognise and respect our indigenous people.
But I also recognise my fellow Australians.
We do not require any changes to our constitution to say that.
We are all equal in this great country.
Marcia Langton. Look it up...
Bitter, Racist women.....a NASTY peice of work..
Said to head "the voice"....
Look it up....shes 1 nasty bitter creation...
You do know that woke means being against discrimination. I am woke are you?
well said.
@@turnerfamilyinozi
Ok
You keep fooling yourself.
@@turnerfamilyinozi
I'd prefer the term wake.
Of course it's wrong....well said Tony Abbott !
Just say NO NO NO
It sickens me how Liberal Party pushed Tony out. You would be one of the best common-sense leader we have ever had
There's an African American on you tube who is amazing. One of his sayings is "Is a man who has never owned a slave should not apologize to a man who has never been a slave". We need to be concentrating on bigger issues. Aboriginal Australians have a bigger concentration of MPs in parliament more than any other group so like everyone else they already have a voice.
Larry Elder !
Also we hear the indigenous voice everyday on ABC Radio programs and community radio stations like 3cr . So is it possible that no-one listens ?
The shit will hit the fan if it gets up
I wish Tony Abbott was UK PM we got nobody that can match him in Labour or tories Party. We lowerd the bar that much for jobs on gender not ability. The MPs are not fit for purpose. The MP have got bad Judgment and lack vision across the board.
We have entered the era of idocracy ... they do not care if we can see them blatantly pushing propaganda... because most people are easily confused and already demoralised... which these so called leaders have actually inflicted on their populations.
He is one of the best politicians alive. Australia is lucky to have him
Ex politician - twice fired: pm and local member. Now an irrelevant onion eating scum.
@@countyorga764 I can see only one scum here.
Absolutely Tony
Come back abbott,we need strongvoices in aus now.
LYDIA THORPE GOD HELP US ALL INCLUDING ABORIGINALS.
tell all the people who got shot with rubber bullets during protests that they had a voice and it was heard too ..
Tony Abbott is 100% Right
The voice will be by activists for activists. Nothing more, nothing less.
A very very smart man. Please keep sharing your views.
The voice will divide the people into First nation, S econd nation, Third nation and so on. Who needs that division ???
Why not just call everybody Australian ?
NO to the voice !
I agree with Tony Abbott.
Thanks for sharing that important information
Voting No means you recognise that Australia should remain a Nation where we are all equal no matter what your racial origin
Not a Nation that gives preference to one race which is what voting yes will do
You know why the media rubbished Tony Abbott..... because he presents rational arguments as opposed to emotional ones. Yes he makes mistakes but he's on the side of intelligence more than other people in the public arena.
Intelligence - you missed out then.
Boneheaded as.
@@countyorga764 thanks Einstein... 🥱
@@cristinah7547 Thanks. Compared to you most people are Einstein.
@@countyorga764 back to counting on Sesame Street for you... seems to be your intellectual peer group... 😊
We will then have joint Prime Ministers, Bandt and Thorpe with Albanese as the yes man and Chalmers as the Observer.
I don't have to argue why the Voice is a bad idea, I will simply vote no. However, young people are vulnerable to the media and spin. I speak to my grandchildren, and they seem to have their feet on the ground. However, some of their cohort are persuaded by emotion. Even some of my adult family are persuaded by emotion. It's a hard battle with someone who is emotionally motivated to have a fact-based conversation, when their first line of defence is to vote yes so as not to be racist. Ironically, to vote yes is racist!
Well done Tony as usual you are RIGHT!!!!!
Once again Tony Abbott has spoke a whole lot of truth and common sense. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
when labor government shows such contempt for democratic process who can trust their state election wins democratic?
PEOPLE. COMMENTS. THAT. THEY. R ALL HAPPY. OF. WHAT. U SAID GOOD ON. U. ABBOTT THEY WANT. U TO. SPEAK. UP ALL THE. BEST.
GOOD ON U. I READ. YOUR COMMENTS WONDERFUL TRUE. O F WHAT. HE. IS. TALKING ABOUT I CANT COMMENTS. WHEN. IT COMES. TO ABO I DONT WANNA. SAY. BAD. WORDS LET. AUSTRALIAN. PEOPLE. SAY. NOT. ME. BEC. IM NOT. AGAINST OF. THEY. R. DOING LET. THEM SAY. WHAT. THEY. R. DOING THIS. COUNTRY. NO. COMMENTS. THANKS. FOR. YOUR. RESPONSE. WISHING U. A. HAVE. SUCCESFUL. LIFE. 2023. TAKE. CARE. GOD. BLESS U ALL
Here is a sample of the various groups set up for indigenous people at a cost of over way over $2 billion per year:
SBS NITV Council for Aboriginal Affairs (CAA)
Office of Aboriginal Affairs (OAA)
Department of Aboriginal Affairs (DAA)
National Aboriginal Consultative Committee (NACC)
National Aboriginal Conference (NAC)
Aboriginal and Torres Straight Islander Commission (ATSIC)
Aboriginal Provisional government (APG)
National Congress of Australian First People (NCAFP)
Australian South Sea Islander Association (ASSI)
Australian Indigenous Doctors Association (AIDA)
First Languages Australia
First Nations Media Australia Gayaa Dhuwi (proud Spirit)
Australia Indigenous Allied Health
Australia Lowtija Institute National Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Housing Association (NATSIHA)
National Aboriginal and Torres strait Islander Legal Service (NATSILS)
National Aboriginal Community Controlled Health Organisation (NACCHO)
National association of aboriginal and Torres strait Islander health workers and practitioners (NAATSIHWP)
National Native Title Council National Voice for our Children - (SNAICC)
The Healing Foundation Barengi Gadjin Land Council
Aboriginal Corporation Bunurong Land Council
Aboriginal Corporation Dja Dja Wurrung Clans
Aboriginal Corporation Eastern Maar
Aboriginal Corporation First People of the Millewa Mallee
Aboriginal Corporation Gunaikurnai Land and Waters
Aboriginal Corporation Gunditj Mirring
Traditional Owners Aboriginal Corporation Taungurung Land and Waters Council
Aboriginal Corporation Wadawurrung
Traditional Owners Aboriginal Corporation Wurundjeri Woi Wurrung
Cultural Heritage Aboriginal Corporation
Yorta Yorta Nation Aboriginal Corporation
Bellambi Indigenous Corporation
KEJ Tribal Elders
Coomaditchie United Aboriginal Corporation
SACYA Illawarra Aboriginal Corporation
Illawarra AMS
Kullila
Yamanda Aboriginal Corporation
Koori Kulcha Aboriginal Group
North Queensland Land Council (NQLC)
South Queensland Land Council
Central Queensland Land Council
Gumala Aboriginal Corporation
Aboriginal & Torres Strait Islander Association
Central Desert Native Title Services Ltd
The Integrity Group Pty Ltd
Western Desert Lands Aboriginal Corporation
Wirrpanda Foundation
Wungening Aboriginal Corporation
Yorgum Aboriginal Corporation
Australian Indigenous HealthInfoNet
Plus we have 11 Indigenous representatives in parliament. All this for 3/4% of the population. We already spend over $50,000 per year on a family of 4.
And this is not enough!! What would another bureaucracy in Canberra ever achieve? Why is the left pushing it so very hard? Can only be for self-interest.
So what would the voice do? Provide a path for Labor's far left activist friends to hold positions of power and control forever regardless of any election. Poking and fiddling around with a democracy and national constitution in some undefined nebulous way is way too dangerous and must be rejected. Come clean with full reasons and details or vote NO.
I completely agree with you.
Oh mate your list is right , so pissed at what they get , look after nothing they get , the filth that comes from there mouth , I see the disrespect daily ,
Aborigine's/ indigenous Australians are already citizens of Australia are they not????? Then they are already covered and enjoy the freedoms that are in place in the constitution already, the voice to parliament will not change or fix any of the issues they are facing.
I look at it this way...would it be reasonable to only recognise australia's anglo-celtic population, based on the fact that they created the nation of australia, brought the native occupants into the modern world and unified them from a mass of kinship tribes into one people, and created the very constitution that we were to amend? On top of that, should they have complete say over who can and cannot go to certain parts of the country? Should every public event, meeting and media broadcast have to include a recognition of that anglo-celtic heritage?
I think that might cause a bit of an outcry, but that is exactly what is on the table from Albanese for the aboriginal.
On the other hand, I don't know anyone who supports the referendum or the idea of 'the voice'.
By 'brought them into the modern world' I assume you meant drag them kicking and screaming into a culture and belief system they had no part of for 50 thousand years.
Looking at the state of the Indigenous people today, I can't help but think they were far better off before we stepped in.
I'm not saying The Voice will improve their standing, the likelihood is it will just be exploited by politicians for personal gain, but I am saying that as things are, the idea that we are all equal is not looking too strong.
Aborigines already take so much from modern Australia. its really terrible that they're gonna take even more. Money that could otherwise be used to make the country better, will just be squandered on hopeless people.
It's not squandered ... it is a deliberate act to instill victim ology on a whole race of people to keep racism alive for political purposes..... infantilizing a whole segment of our population has robbed them of traditions which western civilizations did not approve of ... eg... how many indigenous people do you now see with tribal scarring... an important tradition and pathway to manhood and recognition of their ancestorial history ... none....why? In aboriginal tradition you could never be a man unless you went through this ceremony.
Bringing a has been Prime Minister into the debate is not productive
The 'Voice' has no positive basis.
Aboriginals already have it better than other Australians. Apartheid will only exacerbated that and make the aboriginals, by definition, all racists
Tony Abbott. PM Man with principals not for "sale".
I like Tony’s proposition for our Constitution
Australia has been my Home since 1981. I love Austalia and I would fight and die for its freedom. Australia and all Australians welcomed me with open arms and continues to do so, as if I was born here. So, I simply can not understand, why modern non indigenous Australians who have done no harm to the Indigenous People are being asked to give so much power through The Voice to Modern Indigenous people who are already well funded who suffered not harm? Or am I just missing something fundamental ? If so can some please enlighten me. Thank you.
I don't have any more rights than one else on this world or they have any more rights than me. The indigenous peoples are a beautiful people but they have to work like me and everyone else and be given the opportunity to work there's work to be done.
He hit the nail on the head VOTE NO
As Australians we are all equal. It's up to us to remember that and to defend that principle. No one else will do it for us.
Go you Good thing!
On your bike Tony!
Apparently indigenous people themselves will be advising the government on matters important to them - and I wonder who will be advising the indigenous people on that panel. I heard they will all have staff?? Hopefully inner-city left-wing activists are not going to be their staff and advisors...? And will it be the selected indigenous people's voice - or the radical left's voice under the guise of the indigenous panel?? Anyone falling for this must be crazy!
It's so embarrassing having to agree 100% with the mad monk.
Get it right its Bindigenous...
These day's you gotta fill the void of the Trans Voice that's broadcasted for three decades or so...
Only when our First Australians are well schooled and safe will things improve.
Never hard to understand why this guy & deputy Cremlin were voted out, thanks for the reminder.
Ex chief of staff, now murdouche turd crUdlin.
Vote no to this RACIST policy
The voice is a disaster in waiting!
Me thinketh and yet another one., Censored by......Facestopo!@!?🤪😜😝😎
P.S. Bring back.....Tony Abbott!!!🙂
Good ya Tony you should still be PM
What was those words just like south Africa, Ask any south African that now live in Australia, Wake up Australia
THE EUREKA FLAG and the OZ CITIZEN YOU!
This is my statement from the Heart ❤️..
For being an only son of an emigrant settler’s family to Australia I believe I am entitled to a right to publicly call upon all non indigenous Australians across the Australian landscape to join my call to rescue the EUREKA FLAG from Australia’s historical dark and give the EUREKA FLAG a new light of day by having it posted alongside the already three flag display now being posted in Australia’s National Parliament.
Why? So the EUREKA FLAG can become an emigrants settlers identity flag displayed in a state of equality with the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islands identity flags now currently posted in the three flag only display assembly posted in Australia’s National Parliament..
The posting of the EUREKA FLAG in the parliament would expand the three flag parliamentary flag display to a four flag parliamentary display to make the flag display in Australia’s National Parliament politically correct..
The posting of the EUREKA FLAG to become the emigrant settler citizens identity flag is quite frankly not an altogether stupid idea.
The EUREKA FLAG made of woven cloth and stitched together by needle and cotton by the hands of emigrant settlers is truthfully the very first emigrant settlers citizens flag posted in Australia.
The EUREKA FLAG of 1854 is the carrier of the🩸blood stains of 27 emigrant settlers who were murdered by the Crown.
I want all non indigenous Australians to appreciate that you are staring at your right to stand up for principle.
This is the principle.
If the Australian Parliament thinks it is appropriate and good enough to post only two indigenous citizens identity flags in a three flag posting in your National Parliament House then equally your Parliament should also find it appropriate and good enough to post and allow an emigrant settlers citizens flag to be posted alongside the current three flag display in your Parliament House.
And that citizens identity flag can only ever be the first EUREKA FLAG..
Non indigenous Australians..
Don’t miss this opportunity to join my call and breath fresh life into EUREKA FLAG across the land of Australia by restoring the EUREKA FLAG to a rightful place so it can also be treated with dignity, honour and respect for being the first emigrant settlers flag ever to be posted in Australia.
Make your call loud and clear and take no rest until your emigrant settlers citizen identity flag has been posted correctly in its rightful place in your Parliament House.
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40 thousands years
Says Mr Rabbit who was constantly on his knees in front of Gina Rinehart and Rupert Murdoch 😂😂😂
Good he is speaking up about the voice….what about digital ids,,,,digital currency,,,,WEF….the UN over reach,,,, the WHO….be a leader, not part of the problem.
I don't get it . I can hear the indigenous voice everyday on ABC Radio programs and our local non ABC 3cr Radio station especially at around an hour or 2 before noon . Am I the only person who tunes in ?
Good word Tony - 'axiomatic'. Why can't they have better Statute-based indigenous representation - why do they have to change Constitution? What can't be done now - without changing the Constitution?
Voice can be but (ALP-Greens) Govt deliberately refused to enact Voice as as a statute because their ulterior motive has always been to rewrite and obliterate the constitution to facilitate and then ram through their republic and abolish the constitutional monarchy
You fundamentally don’t understand the nature of a country’s constitution to ask such a question.
Statutes will be additional, since under the proposal the government will decide on its composition, powers and other matters. It could turn into a monster or be completely powerless depending on the flavour of government at the time.
Reconciliation with whom ? I have Aboriginal friends and that is exactly what they are , friends .