How to find a shorted mosfet - safe & fast, no thermal camera or multimeter
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This man is ablolutetely best in electronics repair.. A genious of epic proportions. I have followed him for years.
've been following electronic channels for a long time, I haven't come across such an exciting course in a long time. You showed us a method that is far from modern tools. That's the old school rocks over the tool-mania. Thank you Professor.👏
I have been following you for a long time and you are a great teacher and have interesting videos. Please ignore the negative comments and be sure that most people think only the best about you. I learned a lot from you and I'm still learning and it means a lot to me to look at some of your work at least one day. Thank you for that and greetings from Germany 😊
Hi Sorin! Totally agree with your methods in this video. But I have important addition! Like with GPU, when you have several phases in parallel you cant point exactly which mosfet is shorted. But there is a way! If the power from your power supply going through dead mosfet its also going through its coil! So you can take multimeter and measure voltage across coils and find exactly which one is under load right now! See, very simple! No need for thermal camera and no need to push high current, even 0.1A is enough to detect short circuit this way.
Works best if you set the multimeter in the mV range
You mean that only at the coil of the dead mosfet you 'll measure voltage more than 0V?
Where should the power suppply be connected? At the power jack?
Could you Expalin a bit more?
@@dimitrismaster explain more please
@@laptopguy2230 The voltage might be low to read in the normal volt range.
@@pgsss6354 Yes, you will measure more than 0V on a coil connected to the dead mosfet. Power must be connected to the shorted circuit directly. If its 19V power rail you can connect to it.
You did an amazing job Mr. Sorin.
I always use coils to detect the short circuit, without a thermal camera or voltage injector, because the coils can never be connected to the ground, and that method that you used can lead to the exact place where the shorted component exists not just the MOSFET but any component that can cause a short to the ground like a capacitor, diode or IC.
Note :
When you short the two coils Next to GPU to the ground the voltage drops to 0.1 volts because that's coils are connected to the same power rail (+VCC GFX), because generally the CPU and GPU can have two power channels or more, and all that channels are connected to the same power rail (+VCC_Core or +VCC_GFX).
Nicely done keep going.
Yes, if you have shorted main power you can put some very low load to it and check voltage across every coil to find exactly which one is under load right now. Easy way to find which component is shorted in that part of circuit. No need for thermal camera, no risk to burn anything.
@@Evhen_Velikiy Right👌
Its Amazing to see Electronics Repair Basics_ERB comment. By the i'm also a faithful follower of your channel. Electronics Repair Basics_ERB, Electronics Repair School and AdamantIT are the best you tube channels that have taught me alot in these repairs. So seeing you here really uplifts my spirit. I love the solidarity.
I’m a complete NOOB, so please bear with me. When you say: “coils are never connected to ground” is that the same thing as saying that, they are always connected, in series? Did I get that right? Please let me know. Thank you kindly
@@maxwarfield6699 You need to read the basics of how buck and boost converters work in order for you to understand what's going on as regards this topic. There, you will se yourself how these coils are connected per each case...It's not so easy to answer your question with a simple "yes" or "no"...
Hi, I am a beginner student of electronics and this video taught me very well. If you post such videos for beginners, we will learn more. It's great. Keep it up.
You're the man Sorin! You found what works for you and you share it with your members. You are very talented and have a big heart. Thank you for being you!
The other day I was watching one of your old videos about finding a short and you explained more or less the same thing and some of the videos are about 5 years old. This has been going on for too long and the connoisseurs will always try to be better than the master and I have seen it on so many platforms😅. Quote from NF "You cannot stop the world from complaining" and you cannot make them "better than factory"😂 ..We must remember it is part and parcel of the world going around at the speed of 30 kilometers per second in orbit around our Sun😅 Thank you Sorin for this wonderful lesson.
try to never let people trigger you. happens every day, keep the good thing going my friend, im learning from you. thanks
Really it's a good video for all basic to advanced learners he was an electronic genius brain trying to get at least 5to10℅of his skills and knowledge tq very much sir for sharing a good learning video
The first important Tool is the Brain and know what are you doing. Sorin you are a great asset to us . Thank you 👍
Thanks for another great lesson professor Sorin 😊
Thank you so much Sorin. I already do a lot of motherboard repairs. This has helped me find a short circuit on a rtx3090. ( which i could not work out due to no proper heat signal) agree with you. Those things that shall not be mentioned are a waste of money!
When I had just started watching the video I said to myself, "this is going to be interesting". So I made myself a cup of coffee and watched the rest. I was right it was interesting and informational. So now it has been saved and liked. Thanks Sorin for making this educational video.
Thank you for showing a simple, safe and practical method to locate shorted MOSFETs and capacitors using only a good power supply.
In several places in the video, you read the voltage as 'zero point zero nine', 'zero point zero five', 'zero point zero one', etc instead of saying 'zero point nine', 'zero point five' and 'zero point one'.
It will be nice if you can repost the video showing the corrections in text.
I have always just learnt a lot from your videos and techniques. Don't bother about other people's comments
Thanks for the info Sorin.
You don't need thermal camera, alcohol, multimeter, or burnt fingers, just your brain and power supply.
Smarter than smart.
Brilliant!! Super brilliant! Changing the 6Omhs to 0ohms to check which MOSFET is shorted!
This is one of the most versed videos made for this matter, Sorin. Thank you! 🤗 Although probably the title should say “CC/CV power supply required”, it's fine. Excellently well explained.
Concerning what you say about a “short killer”, which is something you mention hearing somewhere (Discord), and that it “triggers” you because somehow you find people using it incorrectly (“blood boils” and “insane”, you say): I know this well, Sorin, I know. It has to do with mind programming, and these things which you find @#$% are actually triggering something in you, and you react. The trigger most likely has to do with a negative mind program which you need to give up from or transmute (with the assistance of a good mind reprogramming healer if you can't by yourself) or at the very least you must learn to disable the trigger in you, so it no longer triggers you or it stops having a negative effect on you. I know this well, Sorin, and unless they are really willing to learn you cannot stop dumbass people from being dumbass; it's them who must change themselves.
Thanks again. 🤗
THE Best teacher Ever.
Nice, sweet, and to the point! I’ve been following you for a while and I find your instructions very informative! Thank you for what you do!!!
The Genius Sorin. Love your methods ❤ This can be only from experience and a gifted mind for electronics
I love the alcohol spraybottle technique. repaired my first mainboard that way.
Someone was looking for a short finder but instead found Sorin's short fuse :D hahaha love it, and great info on using the power supply.
Absolutely right people wants easy ways without knowing that sometimes its not correct. Something that boils my blood when I see some people wanting to teach in some youtube channels but they don't have it right . They think they do but at the end with what you learned you know they are not right .
Thank You for this video, one of the best ! I think it will refresh brain even for experienced in repair, sometimes need to think simply logical but our heads is full and brain tricking us to look more complicated
I repaired a shorted mosfet using "a sorin style" now the problem was when the customer asked me what I had put..... Sorin fuse🤣🤣🤣 and it worked nonstop ...but am hoping to replace that mosfet after some time coz the customer was in a hurry
Excellent solution. BTW Sorin you can forget about your morning coffees, it is more than enough if you mantra that "short finder" thing a few times and and it will rises up your blood pressure immediately, more than any caffeine. :D
Hi Sorin. I am new to your channel. I am electrical/electronic engineer. Probably I'll start one day my channel as well. You are a legend by the way.
Simple and powerful example of how experience trumps toys - nice one
One of the greatest videos I've ever seen
So what ppl cal u by names.u r doing a good job .. free education for all.. good job indeed. God bless u nd ur family.
Thank for new idea sir Sorin
phillipines here 😊
Sorin, you are the real deal! Thanks for the great video!
wtf , nobody dis respects Sorin , he is awesome and honest.
I LIKE YOUR WAY OF PRESENTATION AND TOOLS WITCH YOU USE PLZ MAKE ONE VIDEO ON LAB TOOLS
You can use an alternative option for finding shorted mosfet.
You can test every single mosfets existed on motherboard with diode test and you can just check the impedance between gate and source. And that's it and if one a mosfet which has a low impedance between gate and source , you will be 100 percent sure that the mosfet is shorted. I think this is the best and fastest way to find a shorted mosfet.
I agree. But you need a multimeter. This method is safer than to insert voltage for those that are relative new to this.
You cant be sure that mosfet is faulty every time you have a short. Thats why its not practical to test every time all of mosfets.
@@Evhen_Velikiyyeah i agree. In some cases if the resistance between gate and source of a mosfet is low but not completely zero , we can be suspected that the pwm ic which is related to the mosfet is faulty , but if this resistance is completely near to zero , we can be sure that the mosfet is definitely faulty.
@@Drottninggatan2017 exactly👌
@@armanesmaeily7087 What if you have DRMOS'es on board? You cant measure source-gate coz there is no pin outside for gates. Only way to find shorted DRMOS is to supply some safe voltage to the shorted circuit and measure voltage across power coils. When you find voltage on a coil than related mosfet/drmos is shorted.
thank you very much for sharing your knowledge and greetings from El Salvador in Central America
Greetings from Malaysia Sorin, it's 1am here. I should sleep but your video is the priority here😂
What's the use of "tool" if you don't know what are you doing, if you don't understand basic concepts. Sorin is damn right.
what an idea sir ,i think knowledge is wisdom after your video, still i have to learn i think videos like this ,thank you so much sir
For those who ask how....lets suppose that he shorted. Fet for boost cirxuit..now the coil is between shorted fet and power supply.....if u short before the coil the short will be more direct......as he clevery apply0.1. Small voltage and half amp.....the smps has happit of sacrificing the volt to let amp going....and with very small voltage he creates tool that have high sensitivity to ohm slightest fluctuation ..the dc voltage of 0.1 have the eye of sauron to the skiiping of coil resistance and applying more direct short.....this smps feature called cc cv ....constatnt current constant volt
I have a weird laptop issue where it will power on briefly and go off (shows screen briefly with logo). So fairly sure good CPU+GPU. Without memory it will stay on but no picture, with fan spin. I tried for several hours to locate the short, even with thermal camera it was not showing, with most IC's and temperatures around 30-50c. Voltage gets around the entire board with the memory out (19v, 5v, 3.3v) and the board powered on. I've been hesitant to try voltage injection to find this short. I'm going to try this method when I have time to try again. I have watched probably 3-4+ hours of your videos the last few days to get some ideas, this one shows the most promise! Thank you again for your amazing work!
Also, yes, there is a whole bank of caps shorted in parallel which makes this one hard to find.
i'm trying to repair a monitor power suply and your videos are realy helpful; i'm suspecting a 3055 mosfet short
thanks a lot, now you have a new subscriber
good luck
p.s.- your accent seems like romanian :)
Ha ha, Now I see some use for one old powersupply I made in early -80s, max 30v and max 1A. Thank you Sorin the Wizzard
but without short on coil, you must have 10v on coil with the multimeter...
Anyway, you are a gentleman of electronics !
this is a lesson when you have to know OHM s law on another level. that law is so simple and still need so many years to fully understand it.
I appreciate your work, I wish you a lot more to learn from you. Stay healthy.❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
great methode to find shorts! big thanks to the guy, who left this commend few days ago!^^
Sorry for the late thumbs up on the rules and yes i have heard of these SF SK and the first thing that came to mind was don't buy it it'll short the whole motherboard LOL so yeah never bought one and never will thank you for all the videos i have learned a lot from you.
Thank you so much sir for the great explanation, i wish to ask how can i find the short if I don't have the machine that will low the voltage
Thank you for sharing this technique. Watching from Perth western Australia.
Very helpful! Thank you Sorin. Wish I saw this video earlier. Make more videos like this one
Excelente video...Short Killer es usado con aparente éxito para levantar cortos en las pantallas LCD....
Nice video, I'm from Brazil and I understated you very well , good job! Thanks for share.
Thanks Sorin this is a nice approach to find a shorted mosfet
Sorry I had written in Ita. You are the best, I have learned more from you than from anyone else...! Am I mistaken or is this called the Kelvin method?
Great video! Saving it for future use! Thank you!
Very good video, it would have been even better had you also drawn a part of schematics and showed which point actually got shorted to the ground.
people in Sorin's league generally don't need schematics
I feel like I also need some sort of diagram to explain it. I don't think I'm stupid, I just understand better when there is a clear diagram of what's happening. :)
@@daffyduk77 people watching Sorin are not in his league.
@@pgsss6354 Don't generalise lol I'm just here for the entertainment 🙂
@@daffyduk77 ...but, some of them, think they are
Sorin you are absolutely great. I wish I can meet you one day.. U r legend .. Thank you for teaching us something new..
Sei il migliore, ho imparato più da te che da chiunque altro...! Mi sbaglio o questo si chiama metodo Kelvin?
I tried the same way and I found that mosfet are dead :) this is very simple way to find a mosfet
Hello I think like you, but some short killers has 20V 20A that's a good point to take in care.
*Sorin Best of the best!*
Hi Sorin thank you very much for this video. I in the laboratory source Koraxxx 30V - 10A, I can limit the current or voltage but when it reaches that limit it is blocked and you have to be pressing to unlock, and I do not just see how to test the capacitor shorts, and I also observe that depending on the type of cables you use for its thickness can give one value or another.
thank you boss, this is my first time to comment. you my mentor in electronics
excellent teacher ive learned a lot today
Ypu are one of the best my dear Sorin ...God always bless you.
Good advice. It is new lesson for me. Thanks man..😊
Excelente seus vídeos, estou aqui no Brasil aprendendo muito com eles.
I have learned so much from you.
Keep up the good work :)
I kid you not - as I'm watching this video, an email notification popped up from Digikey saying your mosfet order has shipped. :D
First of all congratulations for your great UA-cam channel!
I would like to ask if while injecting voltage into the circuit to find the short circuit a positive voltage could be applied to the ground rails of the motherboard and the zero voltage at probe pin. Thanks!
Learned something every time
Thanks
Recently found your channel. Love you already :) Thanks man.
Now i really want to see you buy one and do a comparation video where you set up different faults and you compare shortkiller vs power supply.
Before taking the motherboard out, shouldn't we check the BIOS first?
@West Senkovec: Simple man? Of the "old school"? Please, West, can you do me the big favor of putting me on your list, because of course I belong to that "select group" too. First BIOS? lol... you're terrible (in Spanish they would say about you unbearable guy!😊) All the best. A brotherly greeting from Mexico.
Thank you for showing ur skills very appreciated
you never stop surprising us. WOW
Great Job! I will learn to use this method. Thank you.
You remind me of Benicio Del Toro, he only talks when it’s important and knows his strengths, how about a talk about using your voltage regulator, you know tips and tricks. 👍🏻
Very helpful lesson, thank you
Good stuff Sorin! Well done.
Thank a lot Mr Sorin
I Weldone Mr Sorib u are doing a very great job.... I am a beginner...pls where did u put the black probe of the power supply when u were looking for the shorted capacitor after shorting it itself?
thank you.. now i have learned another way to find short..
Excellent performance, more patience, more success all our respectation and appreciation
Please show this method in more videos! Your the best!
Great trick in finiding shorted mosfet or capacitor, Which is the name/ model of power suppoly you use ?
Thank you Sorin!
Sorin's magic!
Awesome video and lesson Master Sorin🥸
Wow, nice video with novel method for short detection. Btw, interesting guy. Nice easy manner he has.
Thanks for the work you giving . you are really Geneous
awesome metode sir
This video i liked the most . Thanks a lot for the efforts.
Thanks Sorin, you are my idol !!!
wow! just wow, the lesson is well understood, thank you very much.
Amazing video as always
OMG Sorin why you not tell us this 5 years ago? 😂😂😂