Late to the party here - but with my knowledge and just by looking at the fruit itself and the trees, I can tell you with 100% certainty that this is definitely a Fuyu and a Giant Fuyu (the big one is not a Jiro). The nursery likely got the labeling wrong which is extremely common with persimmon varieties, and that's totally fine, it doesn't diminish the taste or tree in any way. I just want the audience to be informed that if they buy a Jiro (actual name Ichi Ki Kei Jiro) and get that true variety, they'll be getting something closer to the size of standard Fuyu. The Jiro is the most cold-hearty of the whole asian persimmon variety, is non-astringent of course, but when sitting for longer periods they can get much softer than a standard fuyu (not quite to a Hachiya or other astringent level though). Hope this review helped someone.
I thought that was the case too, but didn't say anyting....I just bought & planted 3 Jiro's....& didn't think they'd get as big as the one he showed....
Thanks for another video, looking forward to see how your American Pawpaw trees are going. That is the most exciting plants you have although all fruiting plants are super exciting. Your sugar cane is crazy! God bless.
It's an unusual sight seeing tropical fruit trees turn deciduous beside cold climate cherries and plums. Pawpaws have been slowly losing their leaves since early March. Excited for the next growth season.
@@RealLifeFruitopia Clifford England has dozens of new cultivars with superior flavor. They are not as big as your cultivar. But they are much sweeter & stronger flavored. Prok, Yates, Meader are American persimmon cultivars that have been around for a long time. UA-cam search on (Clifford England persimmon). You will come across a at least 2 dozens videos about his orchard & persimmon trees by multiple people.
question: I bought a 7' tall Diopyros Kaki Jiro in a 7 gal pot for 129.xx at a nursery, then a few days later bought over the internet two bare root Ichi-Ki-Kei-Jiro & planted them in the same area....are these two varieties the same...?
When would you recommend covering them with netting? Right when the new leaves emerge in the spring or as the young fruits start to appear? Thank you 🙏
Hi, I want to buy and plant a persimmon tree, variety Jiro, and I have some questions: 1. Can they be kept under control from the height & spread point of view? Meaning to not be taller than 2-2.5 meters. 2. Are they self-pollination trees, or they need a pair? Thank you.
Hello, I have two questions for you ! 1 I have not eaten a fejoa guava yet , so when I saw you eating it you didn’t eat the skin,why? 2 I noticed that all of yours fruit trees have a wire mesh,which pest are you guarding them? In Australia
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Interesting size difference as normally Fuyu is a bigger variety than Jiro. It may be due to the size of your trees or the amount of fruits on them as obviously with fewer fruits they tend to be larger. That large one looks more like a Giant Fuyu or Hana Fuyu. Also interesting that the smaller one has seeds which means that has been pollinated by a male flower.
@@RealLifeFruitopia Over here in the state, where you buy your fruit trees is critical if you want true to type trees...I bought one at Home Depot for fuyu tree, and three years later, it is an astringent type with similar shape, though a little smaller fruits. I did order a giant fuyu plant from a good nursery last year, and this year, it bears 15 large fuyu persimmons and the tree is only about four feet tall. From what I understood, Jiro size is medium, slightly larger than Fuyu. Yours is way larger than a Fuyu, more like my Giant Fuyu...Not saying that you are wrong, but mislabeling is common in the states, especially big box stores, and occasionally, nurseries which supply trees to these big box stores...
I think Jiro and Fuyu are about the same size fruit with Jiro a little bit squarish with seeds and more pronounced lines on each sides and Fuyu more round and no seeds, just slightly smaller. There's also Giant variety that you are showing. I have four varieties and Jiro is the easiest to grow in tropical country.
One interesting issue about your 4k UHD videos for me is because the broadband isn't particularly good in my area and additionally my wireless connection is a bit weak I often get a lot of freezing and buffering on your videos because the extra detail requires extra bandwidth to play 'live' . I don't have buffering on anyones videos that are recorded in regular mode. It does vary according to the time of day as obviously it will depend on internet usage by other people
You're not telling us the name comparisons so I have no idea which is which. You keep saying "this one" "that one". "Big one" "little one". Use their NAMES so we understand which is which while you are comparing! This is frustrating me -_-
Late to the party here - but with my knowledge and just by looking at the fruit itself and the trees, I can tell you with 100% certainty that this is definitely a Fuyu and a Giant Fuyu (the big one is not a Jiro). The nursery likely got the labeling wrong which is extremely common with persimmon varieties, and that's totally fine, it doesn't diminish the taste or tree in any way. I just want the audience to be informed that if they buy a Jiro (actual name Ichi Ki Kei Jiro) and get that true variety, they'll be getting something closer to the size of standard Fuyu. The Jiro is the most cold-hearty of the whole asian persimmon variety, is non-astringent of course, but when sitting for longer periods they can get much softer than a standard fuyu (not quite to a Hachiya or other astringent level though). Hope this review helped someone.
Thanks so much for clarifying!
I thought that was the case too, but didn't say anyting....I just bought & planted 3 Jiro's....& didn't think they'd get as big as the one he showed....
Sir ,can I grow jiro in sub tropical or tropical area . which is best varieties for hot area?
Yes, in subtropical area. Not sure about tropical area.
Thanks for another video, looking forward to see how your American Pawpaw trees are going. That is the most exciting plants you have although all fruiting plants are super exciting. Your sugar cane is crazy! God bless.
It's an unusual sight seeing tropical fruit trees turn deciduous beside cold climate cherries and plums. Pawpaws have been slowly losing their leaves since early March. Excited for the next growth season.
Hi George is jiro good in the pot? Or better in the ground?
I've not had luck in pots, best in ground for me.
Why not Prok, Yates, Meader, or an interspecific hybrid?
Never heard of those.
@@RealLifeFruitopia Clifford England has dozens of new cultivars with superior flavor. They are not as big as your cultivar. But they are much sweeter & stronger flavored. Prok, Yates, Meader are American persimmon cultivars that have been around for a long time. UA-cam search on (Clifford England persimmon). You will come across a at least 2 dozens videos about his orchard & persimmon trees by multiple people.
question:
I bought a 7' tall Diopyros Kaki Jiro in a 7 gal pot for 129.xx at a nursery, then a few days later bought over the internet two bare root Ichi-Ki-Kei-Jiro & planted them in the same area....are these two varieties the same...?
Yes
Size doesn’t really matter if your fuyu produces alot anyway. My fuyu produced over 60 fruit this year so not really missing out on not having a jiro.
Thanks for the comparison test. On that bases, I am ordering the Ichikikijiro from Daleys right now.
Which persimmon variety do you recommend for Melbourne backyard?
Fuyu
@@RealLifeFruitopia Really? Why not Jiro?
@mirabilo Jiro produces far less than fuyu in my spot.
@RealLifeFruitopia ok thanks for the reply. Do you grow any astringent varieties? I've been told they grow better in Melbourne.
@mirabilo I have Dai dai maru, Flat seedless, and Hachiya astringent varieties.
When would you recommend covering them with netting? Right when the new leaves emerge in the spring or as the young fruits start to appear? Thank you 🙏
You didn't say where you are. If in Australia, cover in March.
@@RealLifeFruitopia California Zone 10a/b . Thank you : )
Hi,
I want to buy and plant a persimmon tree, variety Jiro, and I have some questions:
1. Can they be kept under control from the height & spread point of view? Meaning to not be taller than 2-2.5 meters.
2. Are they self-pollination trees, or they need a pair?
Thank you.
Yes, you prune them to keep a smaller size and they are self pollinating.
Hello, I have two questions for you ! 1 I have not eaten a fejoa guava yet , so when I saw you eating it you didn’t eat the skin,why? 2 I noticed that all of yours fruit trees have a wire mesh,which pest are you guarding them? In Australia
The feijoa skin is bitter. The mesh is to protect from birds digging up mulch and compost.
Thanks for the response, I’m growing feijoa but they’re not a year old and they have dyed back half ,winter temps,
@@sergio34410 Feijoa is very hardy, can take freezes. Where are you located?
I’m in the northeast USA Rhode Island between Boston and Connecticut the smallest state ,growing zone 6b
@@sergio34410 Looks like your feijoa will live in a pot. Fruit ripens mid to late fall.
Let it sit until it becomes soft like a tomato, then it is really sweet.
Your taste buds exactly right, sweet, pumpkin, married, apple
That is the giant fuyu. It is a small tree.
Jiro is not easy to find. Where do you think I could get one? I am in Melbourne
Plenty of places have it leading into Summer. Garden World in Braeside, BAAG in Bulleen, sometimes Bunnings.
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That's just in the garden. Then there's everyday challenges with home improvement expenses and personal development to name a few.
Interesting size difference as normally Fuyu is a bigger variety than Jiro. It may be due to the size of your trees or the amount of fruits on them as obviously with fewer fruits they tend to be larger. That large one looks more like a Giant Fuyu or Hana Fuyu. Also interesting that the smaller one has seeds which means that has been pollinated by a male flower.
My Jiro and Fuyu have been this size since the beginning. Jiro tree had around 30 fruit last year, all were as huge as the one in today's video.
@@RealLifeFruitopia great size fruit for sure
@@RealLifeFruitopia Over here in the state, where you buy your fruit trees is critical if you want true to type trees...I bought one at Home Depot for fuyu tree, and three years later, it is an astringent type with similar shape, though a little smaller fruits. I did order a giant fuyu plant from a good nursery last year, and this year, it bears 15 large fuyu persimmons and the tree is only about four feet tall. From what I understood, Jiro size is medium, slightly larger than Fuyu. Yours is way larger than a Fuyu, more like my Giant Fuyu...Not saying that you are wrong, but mislabeling is common in the states, especially big box stores, and occasionally, nurseries which supply trees to these big box stores...
I saw other guy here and he stated giant fuyu is not that sweet as fuyu. So maybe it’s really Jiro. My Jiro is more than 5 year old never fruited
what nursery you bought . i want buy dne just like you.
Persimmon is available at any nursery. Try Bunnings or BAAG in Bulleen.
@@RealLifeFruitopia thank you very mach you anser my question. thank you .
I love your tropical jungle.
bud row me too!!
Wow! How amazing! I'm still waiting for my first persimmons on my Fuyu tree here in England.
Good luck!
Sir i want root stock for fuyu persimmon
What kind of bags do you use? Would they work for peaches?
Sandwich bags, should work fine for most fruit.
I think Jiro and Fuyu are about the same size fruit with Jiro a little bit squarish with seeds and more pronounced lines on each sides and Fuyu more round and no seeds, just slightly smaller. There's also Giant variety that you are showing. I have four varieties and Jiro is the easiest to grow in tropical country.
Hi CY. Would you please help me, I can't decide between Early Fuyu and Early Jiro. Which one have more production and better taste?
Would like to know how heavy the fruits are via a scale 😊
That makes two of us. I might dig out my old scales.
Close your mouth when you eat!
Agree ! Horrible
One interesting issue about your 4k UHD videos for me is because the broadband isn't particularly good in my area and additionally my wireless connection is a bit weak I often get a lot of freezing and buffering on your videos because the extra detail requires extra bandwidth to play 'live' . I don't have buffering on anyones videos that are recorded in regular mode. It does vary according to the time of day as obviously it will depend on internet usage by other people
UA-cam videos can be watched at different speeds, stick with HD if your connection is buffering. 4K is for them with uber fast connections.
@@RealLifeFruitopia you're right I forgot the settings can be adjusted 🤣
Good eating buddy love it
Thank you 😋
I can't wait to get one....yum.
the large one looks like the giant fuyu. Carrot-like taste?
Sorta
jiro small tree but large side ?
Yes
You're not telling us the name comparisons so I have no idea which is which. You keep saying "this one" "that one". "Big one" "little one". Use their NAMES so we understand which is which while you are comparing! This is frustrating me -_-
You didn't watch the video right through or you would've heard me mention each variety numerous times. LARGE one is JIRO, small one is fuyu!
@@RealLifeFruitopia Got it, thank you :)
not a fair comparison
It's pronounced "Jeero", not "Gyro".
Helping out the Aussie audience mate
@@RealLifeFruitopia I get it, but I don't see why the Aussie audience should get a free pass on wrong pronunciations. :)
they're both tasteless
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