The Marantz 2230 is the best sounding of the line because it does not have a protection circuit that strangles dynamics. The 2230 has great impact and decay of drums cymbals, piano key being struck or a guitar string being plucked for example.
I'm looking at a 2230 0n eBay sold(11/03/24) for$385.00 with a wood cabinet, not the prettiest wood cabinet(but a little work?) plus 16 bids on it so it looks legit. I don't count any sold items that don't show or have a single bid. I just looked at specs and noticed the 9100 integrated amp has twice the power rating of the Marantz. Are they in the same condition? One of my local repair shops , 'Stereo Rehab', only does full restorations down to the screws and fuse holders because he doesn't want to waste time on piecemeal repairs that will comeback with another issue. Personally, I don't care one way or another as I think most of these vintage receivers like Marantz and Mcintosh sound like a a bunch of homogenized mono mush. But I did notice a slight, better dynamics and upper frequency clarity with the Marantz. So there.
Mehhhh… yeah, this is true but look at how quickly those “low price” versions sold. Most often, anything south of $500 sells immediately. So, unless you’re hanging out on eBay all the time… you ain’t gonna get one for that price.
@@kappandrew1 Sure because they're low price. You seem to miss the point; myself, I could care less about vintage Receivers but I do know a little about eBay since I live near one of the largest mail order specialty audio and record outfits in the world and know a few of the sales staff and how they use eBay and what's real and not real on the site. You can put something up at any price you like but it's what it actually sells for that counts. Plus new products like Outlaws Receiver (2160?) annihilate those antiques; More neutral sound, better bass, better adjustments, a powerful amp stage that lead to a clearer view into the soundstage width, height, depth, breadth of sound, not to mention 21st century convenience features not to mention a very nice tuner. I replaced my Esoteric components with one of these at a 25th or 30th of the price for a month before giving it to a friend for a house warming gift. Was it as good as the Esoteric stuff? No, but it kept me engaged with the music and that's saying a lot. Hell it was even pretty good with MC phono cartridges on its own.
You did something wrong when you registered. The recording with Pioneer is much quieter and it has a lot on hiss . However, the Pioneer sounded much more detailed and smooth .
Good feedback. I’ve been using a pretty high-end PC and components for recording, including dedicated audio boards in the PC itself. When I start the recording, I let the unit warm up for 5 minutes. The outputs from the back go through a reducer and into the PC. I use a 500 Hz signal and dial the amp/receiver to 75 dB, allowing the measurement to settle until it’s steady. Once everything is stable, I begin playing the songs. I follow this same procedure when listening to the units on the playlist. So, the lacking volume is likely the unit’s ability to maintain a flat volume across the sound spectrum. This isn’t bad, just the way they designed it. In short, the Marantz is probably just louder at 500 Hz. Again… just the manufacture’s preference in designing the unit.
The Marantz 2230 is the best sounding of the line because it does not have a protection circuit that strangles dynamics.
The 2230 has great impact and decay of drums cymbals, piano key being struck or a guitar string being plucked for example.
Stay tuned… I’ve got some solid challengers coming up that are stupid cheap. (But they might be a bit ugly.)
Very nice stereo
I'm looking at a 2230 0n eBay sold(11/03/24) for$385.00 with a wood cabinet, not the prettiest wood cabinet(but a little work?) plus 16 bids on it so it looks legit. I don't count any sold items that don't show or have a single bid. I just looked at specs and noticed the 9100 integrated amp has twice the power rating of the Marantz. Are they in the same condition? One of my local repair shops , 'Stereo Rehab', only does full restorations down to the screws and fuse holders because he doesn't want to waste time on piecemeal repairs that will comeback with another issue. Personally, I don't care one way or another as I think most of these vintage receivers like Marantz and Mcintosh sound like a a bunch of homogenized mono mush. But I did notice a slight, better dynamics and upper frequency clarity with the Marantz. So there.
Mehhhh… yeah, this is true but look at how quickly those “low price” versions sold. Most often, anything south of $500 sells immediately. So, unless you’re hanging out on eBay all the time… you ain’t gonna get one for that price.
@@kappandrew1 Sure because they're low price. You seem to miss the point; myself, I could care less about vintage Receivers but I do know a little about eBay since I live near one of the largest mail order specialty audio and record outfits in the world and know a few of the sales staff and how they use eBay and what's real and not real on the site. You can put something up at any price you like but it's what it actually sells for that counts. Plus new products like Outlaws Receiver (2160?) annihilate those antiques; More neutral sound, better bass, better adjustments, a powerful amp stage that lead to a clearer view into the soundstage width, height, depth, breadth of sound, not to mention 21st century convenience features not to mention a very nice tuner. I replaced my Esoteric components with one of these at a 25th or 30th of the price for a month before giving it to a friend for a house warming gift. Was it as good as the Esoteric stuff? No, but it kept me engaged with the music and that's saying a lot. Hell it was even pretty good with MC phono cartridges on its own.
You did something wrong when you registered. The recording with Pioneer is much quieter and it has a lot on hiss . However, the Pioneer sounded much more detailed and smooth .
Good feedback. I’ve been using a pretty high-end PC and components for recording, including dedicated audio boards in the PC itself. When I start the recording, I let the unit warm up for 5 minutes. The outputs from the back go through a reducer and into the PC. I use a 500 Hz signal and dial the amp/receiver to 75 dB, allowing the measurement to settle until it’s steady. Once everything is stable, I begin playing the songs. I follow this same procedure when listening to the units on the playlist. So, the lacking volume is likely the unit’s ability to maintain a flat volume across the sound spectrum. This isn’t bad, just the way they designed it. In short, the Marantz is probably just louder at 500 Hz. Again… just the manufacture’s preference in designing the unit.
No, amps don't have a sound, IF they are working properly,and not overdriven. Also, comparing a recever to an integrated amp, is foolish.
My mom said you are just a bully and need a hobby.
@len9518
I can say absolute certainty, all amplifiers have their own sonic characters. I have owned and listened to so meny.