I think the best way to contextualize Eliwood's growth is that, while his personality and ideals didn't develop, his motivations for them did. He started out as a polite, earnest, and kind man because that was how proper lords are supposed to conduct themselves. It's through the journey he takes, and the losses he endures, that he comes to appreciate just how valuable those traits are.
Funny you mentioned that. I asked a friend to make a Facebook cape with ten of my favorite Fire Emblem characters and Eliwood is one of them. That said friend took exactly your profile picture and put it in his place. I giggled a bit since she's not familiar to the franchise, but then I asked for a fix.
There is an interesting comparison to be made between Eliwood and Nergal in regards to how both characters had to deal with their powerlessness to protect the people they loved. Eliwood's side was covered in the video but Nergal's side is only made known on Hector mode chapter 19xx. You learn that Ninian and Nils are the children of Nergal and his dragon wife Aenir. Aenir was abducted and Nergal left Ninian and Nils to rescue her, but he failed. At this point Nils and Ninian had entered the Dragon's Gate, so in order to open the gate Nergal sought to attain more power. This lead to him becoming absorbed in the dark magics which caused him to lose sight of why he wanted to open the Dragon's Gate originally, instead becoming absorbed only in attaining more power. While Eliwood overcomes his grief by staying true to his beliefs and relying on his friends rather than his own power, Nergal had no one to rely on and lost himself to the dark arts trying to get his family back. This parallel between the main protagonist and the main antagonist really helped me to appreciate both characters even more.
@@Underworlder5 To be fair to them, the words エイナール ("Aenar", translated as Aenir) and エーギル ("Aegir", translated as quintessence) can get _very_ similar
Well this video pretty much summed up why Eliwood is my favourite male FE lord and in my top 5 overall FE lords. This is easily my favourite support science video of yours Ghast and it's great to see you show so much love to such an under appreciated character, also I'm totally 100% with you on Eliwood & Ninian being the best pairing in Fire Emblem!
BLAZINGKNIGHT, does that mean he is a masterpiece because he starts a long and continuous pattern that gets old in games? Because apparently that is why xenoblade ISNT a masterpiece
BLAZINGKNIGHT excuse me but its not exactly roys mom but its whatever pare you like the most is cannon no one can say lyn is roys mom,fiora,or the dragon. But my favorite par is eliwood and lyn And whenever i play fe7 i always pare Them. Thats why supports are the best thing that ever happened to this Fire Emblem franchise. I also respect that you like eliwood and ninian
Eliwood is perhaps my third favorite FE lord. he in my mind, is the perfect blend of Lief and Marth. while not as characterized as Leif. he is quite possibly a great Character. I completely agree when you say he's underrated and Sold short.
Alright, after watching this, I can safely say that you did Eliwood major justice. There were so many things I liked about him, and I learned so much more watching this. So thanks bro. I wish I could sub twice.
I agree with you too And what with the notion that eliwood is not durable when I played fe7(in a emulator without hacks or cheats) he became my cavalry wall and one the units I have that couldn’t be doubled Also the fact that the three lords and Athos I used them and healers and nils to defeat the red dragon
@@gaelflores4069Exactly! My Eliwood has always been fantastic, and he’s been my favorite character in FE since I first started playing back in 2003. The noble/Knightly aesthetic with his red hair and the huge sword (as opposed to the longsword/hand-and-a-half swords the other protags in the series use) coupled with his inspiration drawing from Frankish history, I’ve always thought he stood out just as much as Hector, Ephraim, or Ike did. Stat-wise, I’ve never had a bad run with him and I’ve been playing this game most of my life lol
+Tenshi6Tantou6Rei Finn busted his ass taking care of him and Nanna. While I personally dislike Leif, he does have his uses, like being a support bot but that's about it...
He did and Finn is a god, but between mounts taking penalties indoors, leif's perfect availability and his autoheal sword, and two of the hardest chapters being Finn-less, Leif holds up wonderfully up to other units.
This brings up a really tragic thing about Eliwood. He clears the dungeon showing he is worthy of Durandal. He gains confidence in his strenght and what is the first he did with it?...yeah
@@sinnyjohns4362 Why? Durandal is literally a weapon crafted to kill dragons. It is drawn to thier blood. Even if Eliwood knew it was Ninian, Durandal had not tasted dragon blood in generations. It literally controlled his actions.
@@dualwieldroxas358 That's why it's just my opinion. I mean, I wouldn't want to be with the person who I killed whether accidentally or not. Plus, I think Ninian better off stay dead because it's losing the impact of plot's tragedy.
Well Ninian does have an explanation for why Roy's mother is dead. I know anything can happen, but I don't see Lyn or Fiora having major health issues.
I also love how they change the track that plays after Eliwood slays Ninian if Eliwood had A support with her from "Reminiscence" too "Shattered life".
That was well worth 40 minutes of my time. I don't usually agree with your opinions, Ghast, but Eliwood is one of my favourite Lords in the series too and it's very welcome to hear a well put-together piece on what makes him compelling as a main character. Excellent job. That said, I'll just jot down some of my thoughts regarding some of the points made: - On Eliwood being a weaker fighter: Honestly, I feel like you're understating him just a little, at least from a lore perspective. While it's true that Eliwood is a sub-par unit for most of the game, at least in terms of lore it's implied that he's a reasonably strong fighter by reputation, given that he's more than a match for Hector in duelling, that Karel recognises immediately that he will be an exceptionally strong swordsman when he's older, and of course that the guy is statistically superior even to Perceval in FE6. As far as the supports you mentioned go, I feel like Hector is more concerned about Eliwood's lower stamina and thus capacity to fight for extended periods - or in gameplay terms, HP/Def - versus Marcus and Harken worrying about Eliwood's dislike of fighting in general, which he expresses near the beginning of the game. I'd say that the key here is that Eliwood does not derive any sense of catharsis from fighting, unlike Hector and Lyn - thus even with despicable people like Nergal, he fights them because it's necessary, but doing so does not resolve his emotions in the same way it does for the other two. Hence he comes across as someone who isn't a natural fighter, which belies his true (or at least implied) ability. - A note on his character that you didn't bring up that I think is relevant to Eliwood's character is how Bramimond sees him. If you recall, when the group meets Bramimond, Eliwood simply asks Bramimond to believe in them when they say they won't misuse the power of the legendary weapons. Eliwood is the only person other than Athos that Bramimond acknowledges in the conversation, albeit through Roland - "…Once… There was a man much like you. His gaze never wandered. It was ever fixed straight ahead…" This has a payoff later when we meet Roland and he has the same self-sacrificial nature that Eliwood does, but more than that, Bramimond's cryptic words serve to highlight Eliwood's strength of character, even if twinned with more than a little idealism, and the character arcs that you drew attention to in your analysis of Eliwood in the main story. - I'd personally say that Eliwood's defining character moment is the part where he states that he feels nothing but pity towards Nergal, in spite of everything that he's done. While it does serve to contrast Eliwood with Hector (who essentially just announces his desire to chop Nergal into tiny bits), it's also a marvellous culmination of Eliwood's characterisation and part of what I really like about him. He doesn't derive any pleasure or catharsis from the thought of defeating Nergal, unlike most JRPG protagonists would; but more than that, he is empathetic enough that even without knowing all of Nergal's backstory he can appreciate what must have happened to push Nergal to that state, and doesn't let his own feelings get in the way of that appreciation. That and he gives one of the few tolerable "Power of Friendship" speeches beforehand. - Not directly related to Eliwood, but I'd dispute the claim that Hector believes that to cry is to be weak - actually, I'd say it's the opposite. His conversation with Lyn indicates that he's entirely aware of why people cry and that he considers his inability to do so to be his greatest weakness - he is physically incapable of purging his emotions by letting go and crying, or showing emotional weakness; and because of that, he's prone to having his decisions influenced by these bottled-up emotions. I don't think his surprise at Lyn crying is so much a conflation of physical strength with emotional repression as much as it is seeing someone who he feels is a lot like him being able to deal with the problem successfully - as both are still dealing with the fallout from losing their parents. - Similarly to the above, it does always vex me when people say that FE7's ending was an "ass-pull" or similar, as it's really nothing of the sort in the wider story context - it's the final piece in the puzzle that links together Nergal, Bramimond and Idoun, and acts as a reaffirmation of Athos' philosophy and one of the main messages of the game.
So it is not stupid that it is literally possible to revive the dead? Sure, other games had the aumstaff or similar means, but those were usually gameplay-things that did not exist in the story in that way.
1-True, i mean, in fe6 is say he is the greatest knight in lycia, like you say, eliwood is not weak, he is just not a natural figther 2-is a interesting way of making us a idea of roland personality 3-The fact that a other coment shiw how eliwood is a mirror to nergal majes this better yet 4-well, he learn this for his hector's video
*third favorite lord in blazing blade eliwood is underrated, dude's girl was killed and his dad died in the same year. he also probably broke durandal somewhere along the way (15 uses lol) so rip
After many years, Eliwood has been trying to convince the community of him being the best lord. But now with the help of his new friend Ghastu!!!, they may be able to TIP THE SCALES.
Thanks Ghast. I grew up with this game, and I always wanted to be just like Eliwood as a kid, and I think it was this game, and Eliwood's world view that molded me in to the man I am today. Thanks for giving this underrated lord a shot.
Hooker Legs THANK YOU. Been playing since 2004. Have played every FE released since. Eliwood is still my favorite, always has been. Intelligent Systems gives him no justice nowadays!!
So, in short: Eliwood is not great because of how his character develops over the course of the story, but rather due to the way he refuses to let those events change him.
I thank you from the bottom of my heart for making this video. When I was a little kid the first game I ever seriously got into was FE7. Sure I sucked at it, by the time I reached chapter 20 I only had the lords and Oswin left alive. But I still really enjoyed it. Eliwood's introduction always stuck with me, he looked just so damn heroic. I always liked Eliwood after that, despite my friends disageeing and think him to be a bad lord. So thank you for making this video, it affirmed my feelings about one of my childhood heroes and games. Keep these support science video's comming!
First 20 minutes is how the supports between Eliwood and characters and the story contribute to Eliwood's character arc from a prince to a man. The last 20 minutes is why Ninain and Eliwood's relationship is OTP, which I think everyone could agree on
10/10 great job ghast! We've waited for this for a while and it was worth it entirely. Too bad it was so good I can't wait for the next support science!
As an Eliwood stan this is my FAVORITE video on the internet thank you Faerghast! I wish you could make more videos on Eliwood, but he only appeared in one game, no fe6 doesn't count. UA-cam should add the ability to like a video multiple times. This might sound really stupid, but I un-ironically get chills when I watch this video. Much love Faerghast
Always loved the chemistry between Eliwood and Ninian. It's probably why I couldn't bring myself to make the latter my waifu in FEH, despite how much I love her character, haha.
Everything in Fire Emblem 7's writing just screams sincerity, spontaneity and naturalness, and Eliwood represents the peak of all this. I love this game because it is a fairytale, a sincere story about friendship and emotions, told not through clichès but by calling into question every values that these characters hold.
Finally someone else who apretiates Eliwood. A lot of people needs to watch this video, since Eliwood is such an amazing character, and people simply love to hate him, just because "he's not Hector"
This was my favorite support science for my favorite character. I find that Eliwood’s resolve to stick with his morals inspiring and after seeing exactly how that effects the other characters and the story, I love the character even more. Than you for making such amazing videos. It’s encouraged me to play more of these games and experience more of stories it has to offer
I still wanna know why the legendary weapons of the main characters in fire emblem games can break. I mean, the Falcion doesn't, why does Durandal? Why does the Sword of Seals? It really makes no sense to me why the weapons specifically meant to slay the final boss...can break.
Because you're not supposed to use them elsewhere. Here you have a mythical weapon that has literally slayed dragons. Why are you wasting it on some normal humans (and "weak" non humans)?
FE7 is my favorite entry in the series, but it's things like this that make me realize that there is so much more there that I didn't even realize. I've never really disliked or thought little of Eliwood, but he never stood out as much as the rest. Who knew that Eliwood has actually shaped part of my world view? I wouldn't have found this out if not reviewing the title here. Thanks Ghast
Basically, yes. Actually Marth's development trough SD and NM (which add points to FE1 / FE3) show us more of this parallelism. I mean even in Heroes they both have the same VA
I didn't even notice it was 40 mins of watching, it just felt refreshing to have another look at Eliwood after playing so many other FE games(2,4,5 and 10), I got to say he is one of my favorite characters from the whole series, and my favorite couple with Ninian; he really deserves some love. The day I get him on heroes though...thank you for an awesome vid.
can i also take a time to acknowledge you ghast....you really do amazing analysis of these characters and i did watch the whole video and I think its one of the best 40 mins well spent. thank you ghast and i hope you keep up the good work....have fun with SoV
THANK YOU! Finally, someone who gets Eliwood... I contend that he is the best-written Lord-unit in Fire Emblem for all the reasons you listed, but especially because he doesn't need a 'perspective shift' to grow as a character. It's extremely well-balanced with Hector's and Lyn's character growth, and overall is refreshing.
Thank you so much for this video. Eliwood is without a doubt my favorite character in the FE franchise, and his relationship with Ninian is also my favorite pairing in the series. Amazing video, thank you Ghast!
I feel Eliwood is a refinement of the Marth archetype. Just getting into your channel now with your support things being interesting. I feel people overlook Eliwood's development because his start and end is the same, and the nuances of it went over the head of many of young player. But OH YEAH, he got done dirty in FEH, though its uneven favoring is infamous. At least he got a legendary version sooner than the FE4/5 mains. But 3 star initial? Oof, it might be one thing to get 4star initial but that. His FE7 Epliogue/FEH Brave (He did well enough in the CYL polls) version comes off as a tribute to Ninian.
This makes me want to make a video on Lyn. People like her but they don't talk about her being a good character. People who dislike her don't really go beyond her being "forced" or unnecessary to fe7 as a character. Hector and Lyn are understandably popular because they are a breath of fresh air from the traditional fire emblem Lord, but they are sort of liked superficially .
Holy crap, I cried in joy when you started talking about Eliwood and Ninian. Eliwood is my second Favorite Lord, first being Marth. Amazing beautiful video
Don't forget he also got shafted in the artwork department with Heroes... I happen to like Hector's Codename Steam esque art and Lyn's anime art of sorts, but Eliwood... Those eyes.. o_o
Who's watching this when Legendary Eliwood came out in Fire Emblem Heroes? Also, kudos to the video! It made us understand how important Eliwood is in the game. There is no badass Hector or a nostalgic Lyn without Eliwood's help. He is Blazing Sword's greatest lord and companion of all time!
There's probably hundreds of comments about this already, but in case there aren't, the translators actually goofed in the EliwoodxHector A support. In the original script, it was HECTOR, not Erik, who cut his palm; Hector offered to shake hands with Erik, but he turned it down and ran. Eliwood then accepts the handshake. It doesn't make a massive difference, though. Still a great character and a great video about him. (Also in Japan the Rapier triples in might against Cavalry, would have helped Eliwood's usefulness)
I really like Eliwood, too. played the FE7 several times and his story is truly inspiring. Not one moment do I see him in the story very disappointing, especially with his friendship with hector and his love to ninian.
One aspect of characterization that FE Heroes adds that I really like about Wood is relationship with his son Roy. It's odd since he speaks of Roy as if it were the older FE6 Eliwood despite using his 7 incarnation, but seeing how the two hold such admiration for each other was one of the best additions to their characterization and it was nice to not see them reduced to one-note characters like many others.
Wow, that was fantastic. I couldn't agree more; especially about the Ninian segment. I'm playing through Blazing Sword for my first time right now, and reading those supports has been one of my favorite parts of the experience.
Thank you. Thank you. THANK YOU. I've been a fan of Eliwood since I first played FE7 in 2004, and was always dismayed by all the bashing of him as "boring, whiny, wimpy, generic." Eliwood, to me, is like Aang in ATLA (another character I adore who gets spit on by fans): their world view is challenged, and despite having to grow and learn lessons along the way, they retain their core values. Growing as a person does not have to equal outgrowing things like idealism and optimism. In fact, it shouldn't. Cynicism and misery are the easy way out, it takes strength to keep believing in things even when life challenges you. Bonus thanks as a Hector+Eliwood and EliwoodxNinian fan, too. :3
Ghast, this video was amazing! In my first runthrough of Blazing Sword, Eliwood at first didn't stand out to me. But I fell in love with his character the further into the story I got. He's personally not my favorite lord but I do appreciate him and what he stands for and this video helped reinforce that even more.
Eliwood is what Marth should have been. Marth has the same ideals that Eliwood, but his personality feels flat, but thanks to FE 7 having supports, I can feel atached to Eliwood. -He had a shitty Son tho-
Yeah, but Marth gets some more development in FE12. And Eliwood has supports, more relationships, and no Kris to hog his spotlight. Marth is pretty good, but Eliwood is just better...
Goldar Rag roy doesnt suck he is just a kid, he survived that whole thing as a kid which makes no sense what so ever, i dont think roy wouldve survived, how do u people not understand?
honestly i never appreciated eliwood until watching the entirety of this video, it's so well done, you did eliwood so much justice here sjdfhsjd thank you
Hector had a tragic backstory Losing his parent Losing his brother Killing linus and lloyd made him feel bitter Getting that cursed power to help eliwood The good thing happened in Hector's life is having lilina Then hector got killed by zephiel
this video really made me cry , this video dude, so much emotion poured into a script and a story finely written... i reallly want to thank you to opening my eyes to eilwood dude
That moment you realise that this frail girl that is Ninian one-shoted not only two dragons, but two fire dragons who have Anima element advantage. (I wouldn't be surprised if Fimblvetr the enemy boss uses was created using a fraction of her power/quintessence). Nils is really not kidding about how the air of this world weaken them, she was capable of doing that since in the instant of her resurrection she was just Ninian the dragon, a fresh start without having been affected by this world for how long she had travelled there before.
It's like the second or third time I've watched this. And a fair few playthroughs of FE7, but Jesus Christ I still always tear up at EVERYTHING he goes through..... I love this guy, my favourite Lord by far. And I love the video too, greatly executed and paced
Honestly, I needed to play Hector Mode to like Hector, where else with Eliwood his introductory made me like him right off the bat, and he has been my favorite lord ever since.
Once again an amazing job Ghast. It's really great to see Eliwood getting the love he deserves and you've opened my own eyes to aspects of his character I wasn't even aware of. And I already liked Eliwood!
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Conclusion: Eliwood is Eligood.
Preach this.
Banana Boy this is poetry that moves me to tears.
Eligood, Roy the boy, Hectorcopter, Like ike, JohnCINA. I LOVE ALL THE NICKNAMES
Banana Boy *eligod
danilius 01 it's ALMost time.
roy may be our boy, BUT ELIWOOD IS OUR MAN
Sufyan Qassem YEAH
WOW
Sufyan Qassem ELIWOOD IS GOOD!
Sufyan Qassem Deepest lore
Sufyan Qassem i bet all the comments here beside me all thought eliwood sucks before this video, no offense no offense
Eliwood: "Our power is no match for nergal"
Canas with the Luna tome: "Hold my beer"
CollinDew16 Canas is fucking general
*"Hold my book."
Cheapest way to beat FE7: Throw Canas at everything. Such a shame you can't buy extra Luna tomes.
i had no idea that luna and canas were so op but when canas soloed most of the final battle i felt like i cheated
can one round the final boss, but dies to a snowstorm
*claps* *cries* *tears*
Eligood is great, one of if not the best lord in the series. He's my 4th favorite.
Same tbh
Look who it is
Keep the music coming Enex
>cries tears
If being a good person was easy, nobody would be bad.
nah bro. nobody is bad
God with a capital G *coughs in hitler*
@@mfbandit7930
*glances at Stalin*
Uh...
Not,most bad people are fill with good intentions, ultimately is arrogance and idealist what makes the difference.
Ike: *I fight for my friends!*
Gingerwood: *I fight **_alongside_** my friends!*
Grandfather_Paradox ginger???
Ali BabaAhmed
He has red hair
Grandfather_Paradox, gingers have red-orange hair, eliwood has auburn hair
Gingerwood?
emrhan mohammad embuido. Gingerwood.
"Ideals are easy to have,
yet most challenging to keep."
Making Ideals is easy
Keeping them is harder
When Elbert was in jail with the dragon kids, all he did was talk about his son? As a parent, I can say that's pretty accurate.
and as a kid who used to have overprotective parents,I can agreed with you
He was trying to get Ninian to hop on the EliDick
@@WetBoy
"Elidick".
Come on sir. His name is EliWOOD. The name speaks for itself in innuendo.
@@Teknanam Elipenis
@@Teknanam lmao ikr
I think the best way to contextualize Eliwood's growth is that, while his personality and ideals didn't develop, his motivations for them did.
He started out as a polite, earnest, and kind man because that was how proper lords are supposed to conduct themselves. It's through the journey he takes, and the losses he endures, that he comes to appreciate just how valuable those traits are.
I'm surprised you didn't talk about how people keep mistaking him for his son
Because Roy and Eliwood have notable differences in their appearances, and Roy doesn't become a Knight Lord... Eliwood is Sigurd, eh?!
We dont talk about those kinds of people
i never met those kind of people (thank god)
ROYPLAYER coughEtikacough
Funny you mentioned that. I asked a friend to make a Facebook cape with ten of my favorite Fire Emblem characters and Eliwood is one of them. That said friend took exactly your profile picture and put it in his place. I giggled a bit since she's not familiar to the franchise, but then I asked for a fix.
When I heard that Eliwood wanted a special dance I lost it
A Tactician named Lucky Pikachu dam i never thought about the "unpure" meaning behind that XD
@@mewtwo150clone Eliwood comes over as such a noble guy, you don't even think of him capable of asking for such a thing in the first place. xD
Monika he wouldn’t think about it
Let’s vote Ninian for CYL5 and have her Brave alt have an prf Assist or B skill called “Special Dance” lmao
@@Castorxd635 Then make Eliwood inherit it so you can say he got his special dance.
There is an interesting comparison to be made between Eliwood and Nergal in regards to how both characters had to deal with their powerlessness to protect the people they loved. Eliwood's side was covered in the video but Nergal's side is only made known on Hector mode chapter 19xx. You learn that Ninian and Nils are the children of Nergal and his dragon wife Aenir. Aenir was abducted and Nergal left Ninian and Nils to rescue her, but he failed. At this point Nils and Ninian had entered the Dragon's Gate, so in order to open the gate Nergal sought to attain more power. This lead to him becoming absorbed in the dark magics which caused him to lose sight of why he wanted to open the Dragon's Gate originally, instead becoming absorbed only in attaining more power. While Eliwood overcomes his grief by staying true to his beliefs and relying on his friends rather than his own power, Nergal had no one to rely on and lost himself to the dark arts trying to get his family back. This parallel between the main protagonist and the main antagonist really helped me to appreciate both characters even more.
Too bad Nergal's characterization is hidden in a hard to unlock bonus chapter.
He even ask to himself "why I was looking for power?" When you finally slay him
@@jarcostheargonaut3318 and then the translation team botches it big time and says "quintessence" instead of "aenir"
@@Underworlder5 To be fair to them, the words エイナール ("Aenar", translated as Aenir) and エーギル ("Aegir", translated as quintessence) can get _very_ similar
Basically both are like reflections of each other in that case
Well this video pretty much summed up why Eliwood is my favourite male FE lord and in my top 5 overall FE lords.
This is easily my favourite support science video of yours Ghast and it's great to see you show so much love to such an under appreciated character, also I'm totally 100% with you on Eliwood & Ninian being the best pairing in Fire Emblem!
BLAZINGKNIGHT AGREED 100%!!!
A little late... But 100% Agreed as well!!!!.... would that make 300% now?
BLAZINGKNIGHT, does that mean he is a masterpiece because he starts a long and continuous pattern that gets old in games? Because apparently that is why xenoblade ISNT a masterpiece
BLAZINGKNIGHT Eliwood has been my most favorite fire emblem character since the very beginning i played the fire emblem games
BLAZINGKNIGHT excuse me but its not exactly roys mom but its whatever pare you like the most is cannon no one can say lyn is roys mom,fiora,or the dragon.
But my favorite par is eliwood and lyn
And whenever i play fe7 i always pare
Them.
Thats why supports are the best thing that ever happened to this Fire Emblem franchise.
I also respect that you like eliwood and ninian
Eliwood is perhaps my third favorite FE lord. he in my mind, is the perfect blend of Lief and Marth. while not as characterized as Leif. he is quite possibly a great Character.
I completely agree when you say he's underrated and Sold short.
Agreed. Everyone goes on and on about how great Hector and Lyn are... They're not bad, I just think they're overrated and Eliwood underrated.
I say Hector is the only overrated one, but then again, I'm like the biggest Lyn fanboy alive.
You have a misspelling of Leif in there.
Mmmmmmmmm
ZerkMonsterHunter 4 Is that a challenge
Alright, after watching this, I can safely say that you did Eliwood major justice. There were so many things I liked about him, and I learned so much more watching this. So thanks bro. I wish I could sub twice.
He did him major justice, I.S. would need to do the same thing now
I agree with you too
And what with the notion that eliwood is not durable when I played fe7(in a emulator without hacks or cheats) he became my cavalry wall and one the units I have that couldn’t be doubled
Also the fact that the three lords and Athos I used them and healers and nils to defeat the red dragon
@@gaelflores4069Exactly! My Eliwood has always been fantastic, and he’s been my favorite character in FE since I first started playing back in 2003. The noble/Knightly aesthetic with his red hair and the huge sword (as opposed to the longsword/hand-and-a-half swords the other protags in the series use) coupled with his inspiration drawing from Frankish history, I’ve always thought he stood out just as much as Hector, Ephraim, or Ike did. Stat-wise, I’ve never had a bad run with him and I’ve been playing this game most of my life lol
ニニアン。▼
僕はきみが好きだ。▼
何があっても、
それだけは変わらないから。▼
きみの秘密がなんだろうと、
僕の気持ちは変わらない。▼
きみを悲しませるものがあるなら、
僕がそれを取り払う。▼
だから、もう泣かなくていい。▼
きみが、いつでも笑顔でいられるなら
そのためにはなんだってしよう。▼
こんな気持ちになった女性は
君が初めてなんだ、ニニアン。▼
FUCK YOU GHAST
I DIDN'T WANT TO CRY TODAY
RIP
O O F
Beautiful
Ummm. Sure. Lol
translation please google translate's not good at it
I wish I had a ghaast to write my papers
Fiestaknight29 tell me bout it
Same
Lol your pic matches ur comment in a way
Same. He types better essays than me. :/
The most underrated lord in FE :'(
Depeche Mode lover I would say that goes to Leif from Thracia 776
lol how many people made it through thracia to rate though? Those who have agree...Leif is bloody useful indoors.
+Tenshi6Tantou6Rei Finn busted his ass taking care of him and Nanna.
While I personally dislike Leif, he does have his uses, like being a support bot but that's about it...
Depeche Mode lover leif is actually god
He did and Finn is a god, but between mounts taking penalties indoors, leif's perfect availability and his autoheal sword, and two of the hardest chapters being Finn-less, Leif holds up wonderfully up to other units.
Also : Hector is like Jotaro : Only 17 despite looking like he's at least in his mid-twenties.
And strong and badass
And then he gets voiced by his archenemy. Lol
That also means that the giant hector with a beard in FE6 isn’t even 40 years old.
@@tahamohammad8842 roy is 15 when he starts. That means Hector is around 32-33 years old. Big ass beard like a badass
@@SleepyBrady From what I understand, FE6 is 20 years after FE7, making Hector 37
This brings up a really tragic thing about Eliwood. He clears the dungeon showing he is worthy of Durandal. He gains confidence in his strenght and what is the first he did with it?...yeah
No dignity
That's why shipping him with Ninian feels wrong imo.
@@sinnyjohns4362 Why? Durandal is literally a weapon crafted to kill dragons. It is drawn to thier blood. Even if Eliwood knew it was Ninian, Durandal had not tasted dragon blood in generations. It literally controlled his actions.
@@dualwieldroxas358 That's why it's just my opinion. I mean, I wouldn't want to be with the person who I killed whether accidentally or not. Plus, I think Ninian better off stay dead because it's losing the impact of plot's tragedy.
@@sinnyjohns4362 oh i agree. I find it a strange move that they make such a critical character moment....really not mean much in the end
YES! Eliwood gets the recognition he deserves. Didn't make him a 5 star in Heroes for no reason!
NintenBro
But his art though....
NintenBro
What's your build? I'm interested.
The art becomes redeeming in his legendary alt(finally an eliwood alt)I like it as much as L!Roy art
3 years later, he is a lot of 5 star and he is always good.
@@lpfan4491 Eliwood is now the best sword cavalary and one of the best f2p options in the game he is a unit that every Heroes player have
Fucking almost made me cry man, all those awesome bromance and romance, Eliwood looks like such a badass to me now.
Well Ninian does have an explanation for why Roy's mother is dead. I know anything can happen, but I don't see Lyn or Fiora having major health issues.
I also love how they change the track that plays after Eliwood slays Ninian if Eliwood had A support with her from "Reminiscence" too "Shattered life".
FE7: Eliwood had to prove his worthiness to wield Durandal.
FE6: Lol give it to literally anybody who uses swords
*use a sword well enough you're an S-Rank in it.
“Take note FE switch, this is how you work the power of friendship trope”
Comedy at its finest
i bet im the only thinking "holy shit that horse is buff"
That was well worth 40 minutes of my time. I don't usually agree with your opinions, Ghast, but Eliwood is one of my favourite Lords in the series too and it's very welcome to hear a well put-together piece on what makes him compelling as a main character. Excellent job.
That said, I'll just jot down some of my thoughts regarding some of the points made:
- On Eliwood being a weaker fighter: Honestly, I feel like you're understating him just a little, at least from a lore perspective. While it's true that Eliwood is a sub-par unit for most of the game, at least in terms of lore it's implied that he's a reasonably strong fighter by reputation, given that he's more than a match for Hector in duelling, that Karel recognises immediately that he will be an exceptionally strong swordsman when he's older, and of course that the guy is statistically superior even to Perceval in FE6. As far as the supports you mentioned go, I feel like Hector is more concerned about Eliwood's lower stamina and thus capacity to fight for extended periods - or in gameplay terms, HP/Def - versus Marcus and Harken worrying about Eliwood's dislike of fighting in general, which he expresses near the beginning of the game. I'd say that the key here is that Eliwood does not derive any sense of catharsis from fighting, unlike Hector and Lyn - thus even with despicable people like Nergal, he fights them because it's necessary, but doing so does not resolve his emotions in the same way it does for the other two. Hence he comes across as someone who isn't a natural fighter, which belies his true (or at least implied) ability.
- A note on his character that you didn't bring up that I think is relevant to Eliwood's character is how Bramimond sees him. If you recall, when the group meets Bramimond, Eliwood simply asks Bramimond to believe in them when they say they won't misuse the power of the legendary weapons. Eliwood is the only person other than Athos that Bramimond acknowledges in the conversation, albeit through Roland -
"…Once… There was a man much like you. His gaze never wandered. It was ever fixed straight ahead…"
This has a payoff later when we meet Roland and he has the same self-sacrificial nature that Eliwood does, but more than that, Bramimond's cryptic words serve to highlight Eliwood's strength of character, even if twinned with more than a little idealism, and the character arcs that you drew attention to in your analysis of Eliwood in the main story.
- I'd personally say that Eliwood's defining character moment is the part where he states that he feels nothing but pity towards Nergal, in spite of everything that he's done. While it does serve to contrast Eliwood with Hector (who essentially just announces his desire to chop Nergal into tiny bits), it's also a marvellous culmination of Eliwood's characterisation and part of what I really like about him. He doesn't derive any pleasure or catharsis from the thought of defeating Nergal, unlike most JRPG protagonists would; but more than that, he is empathetic enough that even without knowing all of Nergal's backstory he can appreciate what must have happened to push Nergal to that state, and doesn't let his own feelings get in the way of that appreciation. That and he gives one of the few tolerable "Power of Friendship" speeches beforehand.
- Not directly related to Eliwood, but I'd dispute the claim that Hector believes that to cry is to be weak - actually, I'd say it's the opposite. His conversation with Lyn indicates that he's entirely aware of why people cry and that he considers his inability to do so to be his greatest weakness - he is physically incapable of purging his emotions by letting go and crying, or showing emotional weakness; and because of that, he's prone to having his decisions influenced by these bottled-up emotions. I don't think his surprise at Lyn crying is so much a conflation of physical strength with emotional repression as much as it is seeing someone who he feels is a lot like him being able to deal with the problem successfully - as both are still dealing with the fallout from losing their parents.
- Similarly to the above, it does always vex me when people say that FE7's ending was an "ass-pull" or similar, as it's really nothing of the sort in the wider story context - it's the final piece in the puzzle that links together Nergal, Bramimond and Idoun, and acts as a reaffirmation of Athos' philosophy and one of the main messages of the game.
So it is not stupid that it is literally possible to revive the dead? Sure, other games had the aumstaff or similar means, but those were usually gameplay-things that did not exist in the story in that way.
1-True, i mean, in fe6 is say he is the greatest knight in lycia, like you say, eliwood is not weak, he is just not a natural figther
2-is a interesting way of making us a idea of roland personality
3-The fact that a other coment shiw how eliwood is a mirror to nergal majes this better yet
4-well, he learn this for his hector's video
Fuck yeah, Eliwood is awesome, definitely one of my favorites characters, would 100% put him as high as my third favorite lord.
*third favorite lord in blazing blade
eliwood is underrated, dude's girl was killed and his dad died in the same year. he also probably broke durandal somewhere along the way (15 uses lol) so rip
>having a full team of unpromoted units in the final chapter
Wheelie Cool 1 lol he said in a poghast that he used cheats to rush through the chapters so he could read and record the story and supports
it's OK you can have Athos solo it with Luna anyway
After many years, Eliwood has been trying to convince the community of him being the best lord. But now with the help of his new friend Ghastu!!!, they may be able to TIP THE SCALES.
Thanks Ghast. I grew up with this game, and I always wanted to be just like Eliwood as a kid, and I think it was this game, and Eliwood's world view that molded me in to the man I am today. Thanks for giving this underrated lord a shot.
Eliwood is honestly the best Blazing Sword character and it is sad how underrated he is both in gameplay and character
No one beats Sain. Trust me, many a mediocre enemy AI have tried.
@@dr.uselessYIIK second only to Marcus in offensive power. Kent and Lowen may come close, but... Alas.
It feels so validating hearing Eliwood get the love he deserves. His unit quality may be trash but his character is awesome
"It's pretty much like Yugi Muto and Joey Wheeler if either of them were actually cool."
SHOTS FIRED YUGIOH FANDOM
Yes, for that Ghast, I will fuckin' fight you.
Dude... That Hurt... Alot
_I don't get insecure and mad when someone says something negative about what I like._
@@sugoiboyxl8345More like something wrong and most likely uninformed.
Eliwood is honestly my favorite Lord.
Hooker Legs THANK YOU. Been playing since 2004. Have played every FE released since. Eliwood is still my favorite, always has been. Intelligent Systems gives him no justice nowadays!!
So, in short: Eliwood is not great because of how his character develops over the course of the story, but rather due to the way he refuses to let those events change him.
These are my favorite kinds of videos, I love it when people go in depth about character and story and I applaud you for doing a good job with it.
I thank you from the bottom of my heart for making this video.
When I was a little kid the first game I ever seriously got into was FE7. Sure I sucked at it, by the time I reached chapter 20 I only had the lords and Oswin left alive. But I still really enjoyed it. Eliwood's introduction always stuck with me, he looked just so damn heroic. I always liked Eliwood after that, despite my friends disageeing and think him to be a bad lord.
So thank you for making this video, it affirmed my feelings about one of my childhood heroes and games. Keep these support science video's comming!
First 20 minutes is how the supports between Eliwood and characters and the story contribute to Eliwood's character arc from a prince to a man. The last 20 minutes is why Ninain and Eliwood's relationship is OTP, which I think everyone could agree on
10/10 great job ghast! We've waited for this for a while and it was worth it entirely. Too bad it was so good I can't wait for the next support science!
My favourite lord, from my favourite FE, thanks for being awesome Ghast!!!
OMG ME TOO
Mudkip Southerncross OMFG ITS THE BEAST, BATTA!
I thought this was a new video when i saw the new thumbnail lol
Same lol. But the video is so good that I don't mind rewatching it.
SuperDash We been jabaited by better looking Eliwood
As an Eliwood stan this is my FAVORITE video on the internet thank you Faerghast! I wish you could make more videos on Eliwood, but he only appeared in one game, no fe6 doesn't count. UA-cam should add the ability to like a video multiple times. This might sound really stupid, but I un-ironically get chills when I watch this video. Much love Faerghast
Always loved the chemistry between Eliwood and Ninian. It's probably why I couldn't bring myself to make the latter my waifu in FEH, despite how much I love her character, haha.
Everything in Fire Emblem 7's writing just screams sincerity, spontaneity and naturalness, and Eliwood represents the peak of all this. I love this game because it is a fairytale, a sincere story about friendship and emotions, told not through clichès but by calling into question every values that these characters hold.
Eliwood!!!!! GOOD BOY!!!
Maribelle Eligoodboy!
Finally someone else who apretiates Eliwood. A lot of people needs to watch this video, since Eliwood is such an amazing character, and people simply love to hate him, just because "he's not Hector"
This was my favorite support science for my favorite character. I find that Eliwood’s resolve to stick with his morals inspiring and after seeing exactly how that effects the other characters and the story, I love the character even more.
Than you for making such amazing videos. It’s encouraged me to play more of these games and experience more of stories it has to offer
I agree that Eliwood's and Ninian's support is great, in fact I shipped them in my playthrough, and I can imagine Roy being part manakete
I still wanna know why the legendary weapons of the main characters in fire emblem games can break. I mean, the Falcion doesn't, why does Durandal? Why does the Sword of Seals? It really makes no sense to me why the weapons specifically meant to slay the final boss...can break.
Gleaming Dawn the weapons aren't supposed to be unbreakable and they are ancient.
Considering that Falchion was made from a tooth of Naga, it does explain why it's indestructible
Because you're not supposed to use them elsewhere. Here you have a mythical weapon that has literally slayed dragons. Why are you wasting it on some normal humans (and "weak" non humans)?
I'm not an fe expert, but I think it's just for game balance
FE7 is my favorite entry in the series, but it's things like this that make me realize that there is so much more there that I didn't even realize. I've never really disliked or thought little of Eliwood, but he never stood out as much as the rest. Who knew that Eliwood has actually shaped part of my world view? I wouldn't have found this out if not reviewing the title here. Thanks Ghast
Underrated lord. So good even Nergal had to acknowledge Eliwood having A-supported with Ninian despite being the supposed big bad antagonist.
Eliwood is basicly Marth 2.0 except that he promotes, gets a horse and new weapon type. IMO
Basically, yes.
Actually Marth's development trough SD and NM (which add points to FE1 / FE3) show us more of this parallelism. I mean even in Heroes they both have the same VA
Eventually, Eliwood stabs Ninian with his other sword, if ya know what I mean.
And that's how Roy happened.
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)... Such a beautiful way to end a Love Story (˵ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°˵)
I haven't watched this fully yet but I'm already thankful
I didn't even notice it was 40 mins of watching, it just felt refreshing to have another look at Eliwood after playing so many other FE games(2,4,5 and 10), I got to say he is one of my favorite characters from the whole series, and my favorite couple with Ninian; he really deserves some love. The day I get him on heroes though...thank you for an awesome vid.
"What kind of main character gets the 3 star treatment in Heroes?"
Marth, Seliph, Roy, Eirika, Chrom, Robin, and Corrin.
Robin and Corrin deserve it
@@Edgeperor corrin yes
i'll disagree on robin personally
can i also take a time to acknowledge you ghast....you really do amazing analysis of these characters and i did watch the whole video and I think its one of the best 40 mins well spent. thank you ghast and i hope you keep up the good work....have fun with SoV
THANK YOU! Finally, someone who gets Eliwood... I contend that he is the best-written Lord-unit in Fire Emblem for all the reasons you listed, but especially because he doesn't need a 'perspective shift' to grow as a character. It's extremely well-balanced with Hector's and Lyn's character growth, and overall is refreshing.
Eliwood is my favourite lord
Thank you so much for this video. Eliwood is without a doubt my favorite character in the FE franchise, and his relationship with Ninian is also my favorite pairing in the series. Amazing video, thank you Ghast!
"What kind of main character gets a three star treatment in heroes?"
*Marth his descendant and Eliwoods Son*
🤔🤔🤔🤔 is being a 3 star Protagonist Inheritable?
Marth is 3 stars
His descendant Chrom is
Eliwood is 3 stars
His son Roy is
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS LETS GOOO
I feel Eliwood is a refinement of the Marth archetype. Just getting into your channel now with your support things being interesting. I feel people overlook Eliwood's development because his start and end is the same, and the nuances of it went over the head of many of young player.
But OH YEAH, he got done dirty in FEH, though its uneven favoring is infamous. At least he got a legendary version sooner than the FE4/5 mains. But 3 star initial? Oof, it might be one thing to get 4star initial but that. His FE7 Epliogue/FEH Brave (He did well enough in the CYL polls) version comes off as a tribute to Ninian.
Man. I love this game to death, and I never even knew you could get an additional talk conversation if Lyn and Hector had an A support. Damn.
This makes me want to make a video on Lyn. People like her but they don't talk about her being a good character. People who dislike her don't really go beyond her being "forced" or unnecessary to fe7 as a character. Hector and Lyn are understandably popular because they are a breath of fresh air from the traditional fire emblem Lord, but they are sort of liked superficially .
Holy crap, I cried in joy when you started talking about Eliwood and Ninian. Eliwood is my second Favorite Lord, first being Marth.
Amazing beautiful video
wasn't Elbert the one who freed the twins? Also, it's funny that Hector's math is wrong (13+13+5=31 not 30).
Doug Austin Yup, Elbert was it and after his death the siblings told Eliwood iirc
he said he recalled 31 matches tho at 18:01
didn't catch that, thanks for correction
Well Hector may be bad at math(Even though the math is correct)he is still better at catching things then you
Don't forget he also got shafted in the artwork department with Heroes... I happen to like Hector's Codename Steam esque art and Lyn's anime art of sorts, but Eliwood... Those eyes.. o_o
which are worse: Eliwood eyes of Rebecca's eyes
8 months later.. Eliwood gets powercreeped in the art department. I prefer Disney Prince armored knight Eliwood over Dreamworks Vanilla Eliwood.
Who's watching this when Legendary Eliwood came out in Fire Emblem Heroes? Also, kudos to the video! It made us understand how important Eliwood is in the game. There is no badass Hector or a nostalgic Lyn without Eliwood's help. He is Blazing Sword's greatest lord and companion of all time!
There's probably hundreds of comments about this already, but in case there aren't, the translators actually goofed in the EliwoodxHector A support. In the original script, it was HECTOR, not Erik, who cut his palm; Hector offered to shake hands with Erik, but he turned it down and ran. Eliwood then accepts the handshake. It doesn't make a massive difference, though. Still a great character and a great video about him.
(Also in Japan the Rapier triples in might against Cavalry, would have helped Eliwood's usefulness)
ELIWOOD!!!
Too bad he looks like shit in Heroes, but he still best lord.
Eliweed
Xamuswing Right?! It's annoying how Intelligent Systems refuses to do him justice.
@@macdhomhnaill7721 IS didn't do it, so we made them. Brave Eliwood ftw
Not only brave but his legendary version too( a very good one shot with the right special)
If Eliwood wins choose your legends three, it truly will be a good day.
Ah finally, the Eliwood art style that fits this beautiful support science
41 minutes? oh hell yes, get the popcorn and sit down to enjoy some well deserved gushing over my boy Eliwood...
Eliwood's not our boy. HE'S OUR MAN.
I really like Eliwood, too. played the FE7 several times and his story is truly inspiring. Not one moment do I see him in the story very disappointing, especially with his friendship with hector and his love to ninian.
my man💜
Possessed Lord I love this comment just for your profile pic... heh...
KAPPALAKAPP relationship goals.
Huh, I find irony in Prince Lyon commentating on the Possessed Lord.
One aspect of characterization that FE Heroes adds that I really like about Wood is relationship with his son Roy. It's odd since he speaks of Roy as if it were the older FE6 Eliwood despite using his 7 incarnation, but seeing how the two hold such admiration for each other was one of the best additions to their characterization and it was nice to not see them reduced to one-note characters like many others.
Wow, that was fantastic. I couldn't agree more; especially about the Ninian segment. I'm playing through Blazing Sword for my first time right now, and reading those supports has been one of my favorite parts of the experience.
I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THISS!!! i REALLY LIKE ELIWOOD
I LOVE the pairing between Eliwood and Ninian....it's so adorable...and so romantic.....
Man, I love this series. So much depth. Long live Fire Emblem!
I love Eliwood, first Eliwood capped strength and speed before promotion
colinmcg lol my eliwood after his promotion capped strenght, speed, skill and defense and almost res. he was the most powerfull unit on my team
If Hector 17, then I'm 17.
Also, this was hella in-depth. I was swearing this was gonna be a normal support science, but it's above and beyond.
Thank you. Thank you. THANK YOU. I've been a fan of Eliwood since I first played FE7 in 2004, and was always dismayed by all the bashing of him as "boring, whiny, wimpy, generic." Eliwood, to me, is like Aang in ATLA (another character I adore who gets spit on by fans): their world view is challenged, and despite having to grow and learn lessons along the way, they retain their core values. Growing as a person does not have to equal outgrowing things like idealism and optimism. In fact, it shouldn't. Cynicism and misery are the easy way out, it takes strength to keep believing in things even when life challenges you.
Bonus thanks as a Hector+Eliwood and EliwoodxNinian fan, too. :3
Best support science so far! Can't wait for the next one.
Ghast, this video was amazing! In my first runthrough of Blazing Sword, Eliwood at first didn't stand out to me. But I fell in love with his character the further into the story I got. He's personally not my favorite lord but I do appreciate him and what he stands for and this video helped reinforce that even more.
Eliwood is what Marth should have been. Marth has the same ideals that Eliwood, but his personality feels flat, but thanks to FE 7 having supports, I can feel atached to Eliwood.
-He had a shitty Son tho-
Yeah, but Marth gets some more development in FE12.
And Eliwood has supports, more relationships, and no Kris to hog his spotlight. Marth is pretty good, but Eliwood is just better...
Every character gets Personality in FE 12, I love that.
+Samus The Goddess But Marth has Wrys thought
Goldar Rag roy doesnt suck he is just a kid, he survived that whole thing as a kid which makes no sense what so ever, i dont think roy wouldve survived, how do u people not understand?
Goldar Rag
TBH probably Eliwood is was the "marth" for everyone outside japan.
honestly i never appreciated eliwood until watching the entirety of this video, it's so well done, you did eliwood so much justice here sjdfhsjd thank you
Hector had a tragic backstory
Losing his parent
Losing his brother
Killing linus and lloyd made him feel bitter
Getting that cursed power to help eliwood
The good thing happened in Hector's life is having lilina
Then hector got killed by zephiel
this video really made me cry , this video dude, so much emotion poured into a script and a story finely written... i reallly want to thank you to opening my eyes to eilwood dude
That moment you realise that this frail girl that is Ninian one-shoted not only two dragons, but two fire dragons who have Anima element advantage. (I wouldn't be surprised if Fimblvetr the enemy boss uses was created using a fraction of her power/quintessence). Nils is really not kidding about how the air of this world weaken them, she was capable of doing that since in the instant of her resurrection she was just Ninian the dragon, a fresh start without having been affected by this world for how long she had travelled there before.
It's like the second or third time I've watched this. And a fair few playthroughs of FE7, but Jesus Christ I still always tear up at EVERYTHING he goes through.....
I love this guy, my favourite Lord by far.
And I love the video too, greatly executed and paced
This is why I love FE7
This video was the vindication for my love of Eliwood I’ve been looking for for so long. Thank you so much.
Honestly, I needed to play Hector Mode to like Hector, where else with Eliwood his introductory made me like him right off the bat, and he has been my favorite lord ever since.
Once again an amazing job Ghast. It's really great to see Eliwood getting the love he deserves and you've opened my own eyes to aspects of his character I wasn't even aware of. And I already liked Eliwood!
I like how you changed the thumbnail
I really liked Eliwood, even as a unit. The lances he gets upon promotion just makes him my favorite calvary unit :)