1964 Plymouth Valiant vs. Chevrolet Chevy II & Corvair

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  • 1964 Plymouth Valiant vs. Chevrolet Chevy II & Corvair
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  • @hebneh
    @hebneh 2 роки тому +3

    Where I live, both of these cars were hugely popular. They were all over the place along with Falcons. My mother had a 1963 Chevy II station wagon.

    • @bruceh92
      @bruceh92 2 роки тому +1

      That wagon is a keeper!

  • @thinkpadBentnoseTheBlind
    @thinkpadBentnoseTheBlind 2 роки тому +3

    We had a 64 Valiant ragtop with the small 170 slant. with that rear end and gas mileage the car almost never got stuck in the snow and the car got almost the best gas mileage of any car we ever had. My dad always drove slow and never had a heavy foot. My Dad said the car never cost him one dime to maintain. Gas, top off the oil every 3 months and all was good.

  • @datacreed
    @datacreed 5 років тому +10

    My dad had three '64 Valiants in the early 70s. All driven into the ground as each of my elder brothers drove them as teenagers. :) Great video quality. Thanks for preserving and posting!

  • @scootergeorge9576
    @scootergeorge9576 6 років тому +21

    Another unbiased report from Chrysler Corp.

    • @nlpnt
      @nlpnt 6 років тому +9

      Salesman training.

    • @scootergeorge9576
      @scootergeorge9576 6 років тому +5

      Not meant for the general public. : )

    • @jamesslick4790
      @jamesslick4790 5 років тому +10

      It's an internal sales film not a "report", It's not even an advertisement. It wasn't for the public. It was for Plymouth salesmen.

  • @bigdog4173
    @bigdog4173 5 років тому +12

    I had a Valiant,and was very satisfied with it

  • @jamesaandf
    @jamesaandf 4 роки тому +11

    The Valiant was a much better car than the Chevy II. The Valiant body was much stronger, the Slant 6 much better, the Torqueflite much better, the ride and handling much better, warranty much better, service intervals much better and looked better. I rode in both when new and the Valiant was a much better car. Also, in ‘64 the 273 V8 became available but was not mentioned in this video.

  • @paulsheehan8185
    @paulsheehan8185 2 роки тому +2

    in Canada, the Chevy ii/ Nova, was also called a Pontiac Acadian.

  • @danr1920
    @danr1920 5 років тому +9

    Wait a year and get the '65 Corvair. I have a '65 Corvair. Best handling, stopping and best looking.

  • @chriskelleher349
    @chriskelleher349 4 роки тому +2

    Film released 4 days before Kennedy assassination.
    My grandmother bought the 64 Chevy with a column shift. It was OK.

  • @sergeysmelnik
    @sergeysmelnik 6 років тому +6

    How did you get these in such good quality?

  • @gcfifthgear
    @gcfifthgear 3 роки тому +3

    Valiant made up for the error shown in the engine options in mid-year when the 273 V-8 was added. My brother had a Signet 200 hardtop with the V-8...and the Chevy II Nova SS was reintroduced in mid-year, as was the hardtop body style.

  • @JSB103
    @JSB103 4 роки тому +3

    Why not bring the Plymouth line back out of the cemetery? An economically built, popular line with a car based on design simplicity, sturdiness and cheap manteinance and operation. I think it would sell very well.

    • @chriskelleher349
      @chriskelleher349 4 роки тому +3

      JSB103 . Pop off the Fiat badges.

    • @JSB103
      @JSB103 4 роки тому +1

      @@chriskelleher349 : A car built along these lines of design simplicity, sturdiness and low cost maintenance & operation (I.E. less trips to the car-shop), will sell well regardless of the label, I think.

    • @timothykeith1367
      @timothykeith1367 3 роки тому +2

      Federal regulations killed the basic car.

  • @adamtrombino106
    @adamtrombino106 6 років тому +10

    Must be an early promo.. No mention of the 273 V8 and 4 speed offered at mid yr..

    • @rightlanehog3151
      @rightlanehog3151 6 років тому +3

      AT, They list the 4 speed in this promo but not the V8.

    • @fairfaxcat1312
      @fairfaxcat1312 4 місяці тому

      A promo is a promotion. This is a dealer information promotion. The idea is to promote the automobile in such a way as to help the dealer promote and sell the automobile. The automobile the dealer will be promoting and selling is the Valiant automobile. The more Valiant automobiles the dealer promotes and sells the money he and the motor company will make.

  • @jeffscomp
    @jeffscomp 6 років тому +3

    The valiant was an awesome car with the push button transmission. Definitely the better buy back then. Wheels were smaller though.

  • @johnnymula2305
    @johnnymula2305 2 роки тому +1

    I’ll give Chrysler credit here. They actually had the guts to think someone would find the valiant more appealing. 🤣

  • @AnthonyEvelyn
    @AnthonyEvelyn 6 років тому +8

    Keep em coming!

  • @TheCarCrazyGuy
    @TheCarCrazyGuy 6 років тому +3

    I was a baby when this video came out

    • @datacreed
      @datacreed 5 років тому

      I was negative 4 years old. :/

    • @acadianfever
      @acadianfever 5 років тому

      The Car Crazy Guy Me too!

    • @fairfaxcat1312
      @fairfaxcat1312 4 місяці тому

      UA-cam commentators “datacreed” and “acadianfever” were not yet born when these automobiles came out.

  • @50mongo
    @50mongo 3 роки тому +1

    mine is 55 years old and had 1 minor engine overhaul - new rings - 60 thou skimmed off the head - carter 2 barrel carb & front anti-sway bar - front disc brakes - free flow exhaust
    can relatively easily do 100 mph - had too many drinks @ took out a lamp post @ blew out both front tyres and drove away - they have hemi 426 main bearings and V8 valves
    Auto is 55 years old and flares up between 1st and 2nd gears under full throttle

  • @buddy8225
    @buddy8225 6 років тому +2

    My dad had a Valiant convertible with the 273 V8 and automatic transmission.

  • @datacreed
    @datacreed 5 років тому +8

    "Sprayed and dipped" lol - I remember how "chalky" and rusty my dad's white Valiant was at 10 years old (in '74). Kinda like that white residue on your fingers when you touched white aluminum siding? :)

  • @user-zf6wq8cv9m
    @user-zf6wq8cv9m 6 років тому +7

    Больше плиз видосов!!!

  • @philojudaeusofalexandria9556

    wait... cars in 1964 came OPTIONAL with a heater? Were the windows optional too?

  • @biukucanoe
    @biukucanoe 5 років тому +4

    How did GM get away with 2 speed auto in 1960s???

    • @AryDontSurf
      @AryDontSurf 5 років тому +5

      The powerglide is not that bad, its geared well enough to get decent highway speed. Its kind of strange though as far as downshifting or engine braking goes.

    • @303nitzubishi4
      @303nitzubishi4 5 років тому +7

      Same way Neons got away with three speed autos well into the 00s

    • @wintersbattleofbands1144
      @wintersbattleofbands1144 Рік тому +1

      It was essentially second and third gear. I had one. Drove great, good mileage even with a 350.

  • @vmat1000
    @vmat1000 6 років тому +4

    Man a 4 speed on a six! That must have been fun. Had a '63 Nova, 4 door pg 6. Great car. Corvair,,,nader's raiders tho a neighbor bought one then

    • @philpatterson7085
      @philpatterson7085 2 роки тому +1

      I had a 64 Valiant V200 with a 4 speed, it was a fun car.

  • @chrisbrown3925
    @chrisbrown3925 Рік тому

    We don't want to talk about no optional v8 on the valiant, here's a yardstick...

  • @senorkaboom
    @senorkaboom 5 років тому +2

    There is no drawback to the 2 speed auto G M offered. In the day, we had 2 cars that had that tranny, a ‘65 Impala wagon and a ‘68 LeMans. The tranny worked well in both cars and at over 100,000 miles, I had the tranny in the LeMans rebuilt. Cost was under $300.00 for everything.

  • @TheCarCrazyGuy
    @TheCarCrazyGuy 6 років тому +2

    $15.60 price difference? Is this really a huge consideration? Were people that broke back in the early 60's? That equates to $126.61 in today's money. And a heater is optional???

    • @jerrychacon8814
      @jerrychacon8814 2 роки тому

      Gas then was around 27cents a gallon then

    • @joemackey1950
      @joemackey1950 Рік тому

      Heaters were usually optional. As were radio's. My '65 Falcon had three options: heater, radio and cigarette lighter. Most cars were delivered to dealers with these options as a rule since they were usually added anyway. One could order a car with a heater/radio delete.

  • @jeffking291
    @jeffking291 3 роки тому +1

    I’d still go with the Chevy.
    📻🙂

  • @MisterMikeTexas
    @MisterMikeTexas 5 років тому +3

    I'll take the Barracuda with 4 on the floor.

  • @BigEightiesNewWave
    @BigEightiesNewWave 2 роки тому

    Valiant trunk design and fuel tank location were way ahead of the times.

  • @merc-ni7hy
    @merc-ni7hy 6 років тому +3

    seems chrysler does not include ford in alot of these comparo's ,,,why didnt they have the new for 64 falcon??

    • @mymopar
      @mymopar  6 років тому +4

      It's coming up next.

    • @merc-ni7hy
      @merc-ni7hy 6 років тому +1

      cool

    • @mymopar
      @mymopar  6 років тому

      ua-cam.com/video/8l0Hqb9e2zk/v-deo.html

    • @joetrip229
      @joetrip229 6 років тому +1

      they did, compared worse than the chev

  • @thoughtfinder
    @thoughtfinder 4 роки тому +3

    The Valiant was a better choice. The Corvair was a very dangerous car. My dad owned a 1967 Corvair. He traded it in for a brand new 1969 Chevy Impala.

    • @AnthonyEvelyn
      @AnthonyEvelyn 3 роки тому +2

      The 67 Corvairs were safe cars.

    • @jerrychacon8814
      @jerrychacon8814 2 роки тому

      Volkswagen had there engine in the back also no one ever said they were unsafe.no car is totally safe.

  • @sonofagun1037
    @sonofagun1037 4 роки тому

    7:15 ... isn't that a hardtop corvair?

  • @terrymeadows1827
    @terrymeadows1827 2 роки тому +2

    The Answer Man won't answer the questions, but diverts attention to another topic. I'd have walked.

    • @fairfaxcat1312
      @fairfaxcat1312 4 місяці тому

      UA-cam commentator, indeed one “terrymeadows1827,” accuses an individual, an Answerman, of not “answer[ing] the questions” and changing the topic. “Meadows’” response is “walking.” What is the nature of this Answerman? Who is this individual and what are the questions he is not answering and why? Toward which topic(s) is he diverting attention?

  • @paulsheehan8185
    @paulsheehan8185 2 роки тому +2

    i'd buy the valiant, because it has a three speed automatic, chevy doesn't.

  • @mrjason9382
    @mrjason9382 5 років тому +1

    Nice

  • @KDoyle4
    @KDoyle4 Рік тому

    I'll give credit to Chrysler for actually showing the advantages of the Chevy. I'll take a Valiant hardtop with the big six and an automatic.

  • @peterdaniel66
    @peterdaniel66 3 роки тому +3

    love how they gloss over the fact that the Valiant doesnt have a V8 lol

    • @richardcrooks6741
      @richardcrooks6741 3 роки тому +1

      Valiant had a 2 barrel 273 as a option in 1964 and 235hp 273 option in 1965

  • @raparperi-yf6hg
    @raparperi-yf6hg 3 роки тому +1

    I WISHD ID HAD SOME DAY VALIANT AND AMAZON

  • @fairfaxcat1312
    @fairfaxcat1312 3 місяці тому

    The narrator sounds like a three-pack-a-dayman.

  • @saltisami
    @saltisami Рік тому

    the say chevy II had no convertible version. thats not true

  • @OsbornTramain
    @OsbornTramain 2 роки тому

    Man, this customer is confused, he's all over the place, he can't even decide what type of model he wants........2 4 9 door?

  • @bruceh92
    @bruceh92 2 роки тому

    Even if the Valiant wasn't beaten with the Virgil Exner ugly stick it stands no chance against the two Chevies.

  • @TheCarCrazyGuy
    @TheCarCrazyGuy 6 років тому +4

    Beep: Racers use the Powerglide trans not the TorqueFlite

    • @thetman0068
      @thetman0068 5 років тому +3

      Yes, there are fewer shift points to get to 1:1 on a Powerglide, but that only matters for performance. For roadability, the TorqueFlite would be far better suited, as the car can stay at lower engine RPM at certain speeds. That equals less noise and better economy.

  • @smilsmff
    @smilsmff 6 років тому +6

    sorry Valiant was never a eye candy car, only now are they desired

  • @kmyre
    @kmyre 2 роки тому

    Valiant, aka why Chrysler ended up needing a bailout in 1979

  • @mrjason9382
    @mrjason9382 5 років тому +1

    Like

  • @Doobie1975
    @Doobie1975 3 роки тому +1

    To me the Chevy II didn't become a great car until 1968

  • @mrpistonrecaro6483
    @mrpistonrecaro6483 6 років тому +1

    Hate the voice. Great videos

  • @LearnAboutFlow
    @LearnAboutFlow 5 років тому +1

    Good video but I didn't understand the concept - The guy who is looking for a car (in other words, knows nothing of the features/benefits) is the one who is stating all the features/benefits.

    • @303nitzubishi4
      @303nitzubishi4 5 років тому +1

      The narrator is explaining everything to him as he is looking at both cars. There are two different voices talking to each other in this slideshow

    • @fairfaxcat1312
      @fairfaxcat1312 4 місяці тому +1

      UA-cam commentator “303nitzubishi4”explained the apparent confusion between the identity of the customer and the identity of the seller. The commentator solved the mystery by pointing to a third party, a narrator, who lays out the respective features of the automobiles considered for purchase.

  • @HillbillyonaYZ
    @HillbillyonaYZ 5 років тому +2

    Lol, and now 55 years later.. The Chevy II is a classic performance icon (that V8/4 speed option mentioned).
    The Valiant, well.. There was an old woman I used to see driving one. She had "Jesus Saves" stickers all over it and a row of bobble head Jesus figures in the back window.
    Guess we see who won this battle in the end..

    • @nonyabusiness6240
      @nonyabusiness6240 5 років тому

      I see a lot of valiants on the road in original condition though, while the chevys have been rebuilt and modified

  • @igorsedlic1692
    @igorsedlic1692 4 роки тому

    Plimunth rules

  • @cargo4441
    @cargo4441 6 років тому +5

    Well gee i will take a Falcon.

    • @blairberg1081
      @blairberg1081 6 років тому

      yea i would to or a mercury comet

    • @5610winston
      @5610winston 5 років тому

      Studebaker Daytona. 259 power kit, overdrive, twin traction, discs. Or add the R1 Avanti spec 289 and the Super Lark package, plus factory air.

    • @chriskelleher349
      @chriskelleher349 4 роки тому +1

      5610winston .There's always an outlier in the bunch.

  • @timothykeith1367
    @timothykeith1367 3 роки тому

    Either is fine for me!

  • @JJABRAHAM69
    @JJABRAHAM69 4 роки тому

    I received my drivers license in 1967.
    I was 16.
    The Nova was a beautifully solid ,very in demand car amoung my peers.
    My sister's boyfriend had a green nearly new 1963 SS Nova.
    It had the cool factor, at high school.
    The Mopar Valiant was a cheaply made piece of junk,right from the dealer.
    My mother had one.
    I will never forget the POS push button transmission,and the ugly sounding Bendix starter.
    Jeez Chrysler made horrible cars,until 1968!
    Then they built Road Runners,Super Bee's,AAR Cuda's,Chargers and Challengers.
    But before 1968, Mopar made ugly,cheap,cars unfortunately.

  • @matt9759
    @matt9759 6 років тому

    101 hp in a v6. And also 2 speed automatics?? Damn. Technology has come a long way. My 4 cylinder 2017 Chevy Cruze has 153hp and a 6 speed automatic

    • @philtripe
      @philtripe 6 років тому +2

      they are in line sixes and the 101 hp has the three speed...the two speed powerglide is a chevy transmission which had a 155 hp optional in line six...that old chevy may not be more reliable than your car but it is more durable...those powerglides were nearly indestructible

    • @GlassTopRX7
      @GlassTopRX7 6 років тому +4

      Power has come a long way those inline 6's were fairly large displacement from 2.8L-4L. The hp was a joke but they made decent torque so even with 2 speed in normal driving they got around fine. Plus the cars were light, they weren't burdened with modern crash safety requirements.

  • @allmotorkp61
    @allmotorkp61 4 роки тому +2

    Joke's on Chrysler when both the Corvair and Chevy II outsold the Valiant

    • @jamesaandf
      @jamesaandf 4 роки тому

      If you will check 1964 sales, you’ll find the Valiant outsold both the Corvair and Chevy II.

    • @imagrandpa
      @imagrandpa 2 роки тому

      Better marketing, not the best car

  • @HIDHIFDB
    @HIDHIFDB 5 років тому

    I prefeer a Chevrolet commodore 4 speed on the floor.

  • @Spacejunk57
    @Spacejunk57 5 років тому

    Chevy ll.

  • @LawrenceRoss1906
    @LawrenceRoss1906 5 років тому

    I'm not interested in...

  • @gordon4385
    @gordon4385 5 років тому

    This one was easy: either Chevy wins.