48V Trophy Battery LiFePO4 100/220/304Ah: Best Value Around?

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  • @WillProwse
    @WillProwse  Рік тому +49

    These batteries can be found here (affiliate links):
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    • @nick-leffler
      @nick-leffler Рік тому +6

      Haha you broke their website. MySQL is at the max connections.

    • @WillProwse
      @WillProwse  Рік тому +4

      @@nick-leffler fiddlesticks. Was scared that would happen

    • @nick-leffler
      @nick-leffler Рік тому +5

      @@WillProwse I called and let them know.

    • @PeterKontor
      @PeterKontor Рік тому +2

      While back I bought whole trailer with solar panels and forklift like batteries. I'll be setting that up with eg4 I would love to get your input on that setup. It's gonna be interesting to see how it will go.

    • @majorhavoc9693
      @majorhavoc9693 Рік тому

      No tax credit in Taxachussetts unless everything is installed by a licensed electrician.
      So the savings just goes to pay the electrician...

  • @ourfather1098
    @ourfather1098 Рік тому +57

    I want to give HUGE kudo's to Trophy batteries! I got 6x batteries based on Will's previous videos and after talking with Dan. My batteries were shipped and unfortunately 2 of them were damaged in shipping. He was already coming my way and Dan literally drove 8 hours in his personal vehicle (2 hours out of his way each way) and hand delivered replacement batteries to me! I was blown away by this level of customer service. Absolutely, hands down the best customer service in my entire life!!! Cannot say enough good things about this company. Give them a look and based on my experience, I am sure you won't be disappointed!

    • @youngmo77
      @youngmo77 Рік тому +6

      When a business cares... 👍👍

  • @NeverTakeNoShortcuts
    @NeverTakeNoShortcuts Рік тому +108

    I have had 6 of these for almost a year. They have been amazing in my unheated shed in the mountains. I've had some issues with remote monitoring/comms l, but Dan has been super responsive in helping me resolve it. I like that Trophy is just batteries and not trying to sell all kinds of other stuff.

    • @silverleapers
      @silverleapers Рік тому +1

      Can they charge while heating/discharging?

    • @NeverTakeNoShortcuts
      @NeverTakeNoShortcuts Рік тому +3

      @@silverleapers They won't start charging until the internal temperature gets above freezing. The heaters only work when they are being actively charged, usually from the sun, but they don't store any power until the temp is sufficient, at which time they stop heating and start charging.

  • @mackenziehaines1976
    @mackenziehaines1976 Рік тому +74

    I do small off grid installs for friends/relatives and your videos are the most comprehensive and easy to understand videos on the internet. Keep up the awesome work man.

    • @marvinsalee7134
      @marvinsalee7134 Рік тому

      What state are you in?

    • @mackenziehaines1976
      @mackenziehaines1976 Рік тому

      @@marvinsalee7134 maine

    • @marvinsalee7134
      @marvinsalee7134 Рік тому +1

      @@mackenziehaines1976 cool. I'm in KY and I do the same. No electrician license needed here yet. How about main?

    • @mackenziehaines1976
      @mackenziehaines1976 Рік тому +3

      @@marvinsalee7134 i wire everything up until the AC output, then I let an electrician do the rest

    • @ImJustDoug24
      @ImJustDoug24 Рік тому +1

      Agreed

  • @calmeilles
    @calmeilles Рік тому +61

    "These are not flashy batteries, the do not have bright colours or bright logos." This is *_not_* a downside. 😀

    • @BaawBee
      @BaawBee 11 місяців тому +5

      Agreed!! I care mostly about longevity & storage capacity. Cosmetics i could care less about

  • @jasoncarr2162
    @jasoncarr2162 Рік тому +68

    I wish my wife looked at me the way Will looks at the guts of a server rack battery.

  • @ikidd3123
    @ikidd3123 Рік тому +20

    It would be useful to hear more about the communications interfaces on these units and others. Getting battery states and charge/discharge rates into Home Assistant would be a must-have for me.

  • @zmarko
    @zmarko Рік тому +18

    These seem like a great deal, and alternative to some of the other server rack batteries. And I love that they go up to ~300 AH, as I think I could manage on just one of the 304 AH packs. Great info, great video Will!

    • @marvinsalee7134
      @marvinsalee7134 Рік тому +1

      What all do you plan to run on 300ah?

    • @MarcPilon
      @MarcPilon Рік тому

      @ÃTrollÄššÑigga too bad you do not have access to wood... I use a Froling boiler and I live off the grid with 4 kw pannels.

  • @jonjohns8145
    @jonjohns8145 Рік тому +23

    One thing I do wish battery makers would do more are 12V batteries with the same features as these rack mounts: On off button, Pre-charge Resistors, built in SOC meters. I think EG4 has 1 that is 12V like this, but no one else. It would make creating small electricity back up systems SO much easier.

    • @Aerogrow
      @Aerogrow Рік тому +14

      The issue is the lower voltages require much higher current; which means larger conductor sizes to handle the amperage load. Stuff gets pricey when you start adding components for 12V high amperage; your total build for amount of watt hours prices you out the market.

    • @davidgunther8428
      @davidgunther8428 Рік тому +3

      Smart 12V batteries with Bluetooth and an app do exist. They cost more usually.
      LiTime has a new 12V battery with a power button that gives some diagnostic info too.

    • @Tumbleweed5150
      @Tumbleweed5150 Рік тому +4

      Signature Solar has a server rack battery that is 12V at 400Ah. Same dimensions as their 24V and 48V rack batteries, just a different BMS. You may wanna check into them.

    • @fishhuntadventure
      @fishhuntadventure Рік тому +4

      @@Aerogrowthat may be a “fact” - 12V is needing larger cabling per 1000W all else being equal. But a couple feet of heavy cable isn’t going to mean you have to sell one of the kids or something. Sometimes 12V is handy or like with an RV necessary.

    • @Aerogrow
      @Aerogrow Рік тому +3

      @@fishhuntadventure yea, ended building my own with a BMS from overkill solar for a RV trailer years ago. Probably better ones out there now.
      Overall looking to upgrade to 48V system now; lots of things get easier with smaller conductors inside system.

  • @DustinWegner
    @DustinWegner Рік тому +3

    Bought the Trophy 48v 200ah last summer fir my RV. It's perfect!

  • @andyandnancy
    @andyandnancy Рік тому +2

    Great video!
    We have three 100Ah Trophy batteries in our bus and love them. I accidentally had our first one shipped to our billing address in Minnesota while we were in Colorado and I didn't notice my mistake until the shipment was in transit. Dan took care of having it shipped to the correct address with the quickest customer service I've ever received.

    • @mikejohnson7768
      @mikejohnson7768 Рік тому

      Please tell me why you did not go with the one 300amp hour battery

    • @andyandnancy
      @andyandnancy Рік тому

      @@mikejohnson7768 the 300Ah is brand new and wasn't available when we purchased our batteries. We have been using ours for 9 months already and still love them.

  • @bartholdlichtenbelt8089
    @bartholdlichtenbelt8089 Рік тому +3

    Hah, Dan @ Trophy sent you the pictures of my setup that you used in your video. Cool. As a FYI, those are five of the 304Ah Trophy batteries, which I built an insulated box around, as these are used in an unheated shed at 9300 feet altitude in the mountains of Colorado. So yes, it does get cold here. As for communication with Victron gear. So far Dan and I have not been able to get the 304Ah to talk to my Victron Cerbo GX unfortunately. As you said, indeed, Dan is just great to work with!

  • @tuberdave1
    @tuberdave1 Рік тому +3

    Great job on the pros and cons Will, I don’t think you know how much people depend on your knowledge and analysis, thank You!

  • @kellerclements8059
    @kellerclements8059 Рік тому +4

    Absolutely agree with everything you said. I bought these. Completely happy. Dan is a really nice guy. My only wish is that the front switch was in the middle under the screen. The only reason is that I use a bus bar, and the switch gets in the way a bit. I would also like the terminal screws to be a half inch longer for my thicker bus bar. I don’t think that would be a problem for the way most people do it.

  • @Sanwizard1
    @Sanwizard1 Рік тому +17

    Thanks Will. Nice overview. I do like the ability to replace cells if needed though. You did not mention Inverter comms compatibility with the Trophy BMS. Is it CAN or RS485, and Pylontec or other proprietary protocol? How do they handle load sharing when in parallel? That would be an interesting test. Would love to see them talking to your MPP LV6548's also!

  • @michiganengineer8621
    @michiganengineer8621 Рік тому +18

    One of the things I like about these is they're a standard rack unit height (the 220Ah one is 5RU according to their manual) and it looks like the mounting holes in the front panel are at standard spacing. Most of the other rack batteries AREN'T a standard size. It is a pity they aren't UL certified though.

    • @cb.7814
      @cb.7814 Рік тому

      What part of Michigan are you in?

    • @michiganengineer8621
      @michiganengineer8621 Рік тому

      @@cb.7814 Clinton/Eaton/Ingham area

    • @cb.7814
      @cb.7814 Рік тому +1

      @@michiganengineer8621 Jackson area

  • @rickharold7884
    @rickharold7884 Рік тому +4

    Those are maximum juicy! Love them. I like the singular approach of their company. Thx for sharing.

  • @bill2292
    @bill2292 Рік тому +6

    I love how you just tell it like it is! Does the Trophy BMS communicate well with my Victron system?

  • @Andrew-jm4tp
    @Andrew-jm4tp Рік тому +4

    I bought a Trophy battery specifically for the convenience of internal heaters. Note that the heaters are not manually operated. The heaters work automatically and only when charging power is available. The heaters do not operate on stored energy so they will not drain the battery. My battery is in an unheated shed and it has done pretty well as long as the sun cooperates. I actually used the crate it was shipped in as an insulated rack. The % state of charge does not seem accurate. I was at 39% and I plugged in my 500 watt block heater for my truck for an hour and a half and found the battery went into safe mode due to under voltage. By my math it should have had something left. It was -20F so I guess that had something to do with it. Also I haven't found a way to get it to communicate with my Growatt inverter, but it works OK as a dumb battery. It works fine and it has been idiot proof so far.

  • @rebeccajean1309
    @rebeccajean1309 Рік тому +4

    Thanks. My hubby used echogear server racks (Amazon) for both of his systems.

  • @josephcormier5974
    @josephcormier5974 Рік тому +2

    Thanks every video I watch of yours is a learning experience since I have no idea what I am doing six stars brother

  • @jasron6774
    @jasron6774 Рік тому

    Will, your words about Dan and his character not only speaks highly of yours...it was the only thing we needed to hear. Thanks.

  • @vkyoung
    @vkyoung Рік тому +3

    This is a great video! Would be even better to see how these batteries communicate with Victron Cerbo GX. Any plan to have a video talking about that?

  • @992923
    @992923 Рік тому

    THIS IS MOST LIKELY THE BEST SITE I HAVE FOUND ON THE INTERNET, GREAT JOB . KEEP UP THR GREAT JOB WILL.

  • @jtr82369
    @jtr82369 Рік тому +2

    Damn those are great for the prices, love the competition coming out now.
    I already started with EG4 so I'll stick to those until I build a separate system (which seems inevitable as my needs grow)

  • @brainrussell6811
    @brainrussell6811 Рік тому

    Great to see that you're still going strong! Checking out these batteries today... thanks!

  • @davea7411
    @davea7411 Рік тому +3

    I have been looking at different battery setups before buying. i already have a 6 Kw grid tie system. These Trophy batteries so far are the top of my list. The 10 year non-prorated warranty is a very good selling point. Also considering some of the better batteries are 48v 100ah at about $2400 compared to Trophy 48v 304ah at $4600. Which makes Trophy more economical.

    • @davea7411
      @davea7411 Рік тому

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  • @russell7489
    @russell7489 Рік тому +1

    You are too powerful ! Your mere word can crash vendors sites ! Thanks for the great video. I like simple. I like well built. I like heavy duty. I like doing something and never having to worry about it, never have to come back to it. Three of these on the floor and I'm done. Can't get easier.

  • @brucebratschi4300
    @brucebratschi4300 Рік тому

    You always come across as a very informative and honest young man. ❤️

  • @redmanrm1
    @redmanrm1 Рік тому +1

    It’s adorable how excited he got when he opened it

  • @jonaskavhura
    @jonaskavhura Рік тому +4

    Great video as always. You are right with the fact that those batteries are underrated. I like the fact that they use higher capacity cells, then limit them to pull an intended capacity. That in my opinion puts less strain on the cells and make them last longer. Thanks Will.

  • @jimritter6861
    @jimritter6861 Рік тому

    Thanks Will. As always, your straightforward, in-depth review is much appreciated!

  • @Cotton2Ennis
    @Cotton2Ennis Рік тому

    🤓 OSHA Officer Killroy here: I would like to know where your tie off point was while on that table, How did you assess the table, where is your harness, when was harness inspected? By whom?....🤣😂
    Another great video with most useful information, that's why I keep coming back, to see what's new and to see the pros and cons. Thanks again Will

  • @luvmysuperduty
    @luvmysuperduty Рік тому +3

    I have 3 of the 100ah batteries. They are mounted in my unheated shed in northern lower Michigan.I have had these since June and my only issue is some sort of remote state of charge as I have an Outback system an have struggled with consistent automation of my generator (worked perfectly with my AGMs).
    I would love a video talking about options for remote state of charge as no one seems to want to give me suggestions. Through many phone calls it seems to be an issue not quite dealt with yet!
    These batteries are incredible!!!!

    • @bigbad27
      @bigbad27 Рік тому +2

      Couldn’t agree more. I would love if someone would do a video about how to charge these batteries if solar panels aren’t hooked up and you are off grid.

    • @luvmysuperduty
      @luvmysuperduty Рік тому +1

      @@bigbad27 I have solar array also……. the generator is backup for long stretches of over cast. The solar panels charge these batteries shockingly fast! 😉

    • @Andrew-jm4tp
      @Andrew-jm4tp Рік тому +1

      I couldn't get my Trophy battery to communicate with my Growatt inverter. If works ok, but it might work better if I could figure out the communication. Mine is also in an unheated shed.

    • @luvmysuperduty
      @luvmysuperduty Рік тому +1

      I have an Outback system my system will not communicate with these either. It would be AWSOME to have a stand alone state of charge display that connects with RJ45 jacks just for peace of mind.
      By the way made it thru a northern Michigan winter and the internal heaters worked perfectly! 😎🥶

  • @douggibson9084
    @douggibson9084 Рік тому +2

    Thanks Will

  • @loubasil66
    @loubasil66 Рік тому

    Thank you Will ,with honest assessment of all solar products.

  • @fassphoto
    @fassphoto Рік тому +1

    Awesome video with very good news, I will check them before buy an battery. 👍👍👍

  • @fixintoo7194
    @fixintoo7194 Рік тому

    Once again Will you have done it. What a great video. Thank you so much. I only wished I would of known this 5 years ago when I built my 24 volt system. Well now it just might be time to upgrade to a 48 volt system. I acquired another place in Southern Utah Near Lake Powell. So I am going to start planning a new system.
    Thank you again for all of your knowledge and help.
    You Rock

  • @arleneallen8809
    @arleneallen8809 Рік тому +3

    I would buy computer system warehouse racks with adjustable sliders to get the 19" rack style mount. Typical is 42U.

  • @roberthernandez7564
    @roberthernandez7564 Рік тому +11

    Would love to see a Victron build along with these batteries. I wonder if there's any functionality loss to be expected.

  • @rosalieroku3818
    @rosalieroku3818 Рік тому +6

    When the battery is oriented vertically, I would expect large tension/compression loads on the welded bus bars. Either slightly long or slightly short. The weight/ moment arm of those heavy cells on the bus bar will eventually cause fatigue. Or with small expansion/ contraction of the cells in normal use.

    • @WillProwse
      @WillProwse  Рік тому +8

      Yeah this was my concern a few years ago and then we talked to the manufacturers and said it's totally fine. If it breaks within 10 years then you get a brand new one. If you saw what I do to my batteries, I think it's safe to say that it can handle it haha

  • @markusallport1276
    @markusallport1276 Рік тому

    Hey Merry Christmas, and I'd also like to wish you a wonderful New Year :) Thanks for the great videos!

  • @WarchantUA
    @WarchantUA Рік тому +5

    I often see that people seem to prefer more 51.2V 100Ah over 51.2V 300Ah LFP batteries, why is that? In theory, if your goal is to max capacity/price, then more Ah is the way to go - less nr of BMS, wiring required, less space, etc. Are there any downsides of bigger Ah batteries over smaller Ah ones?

    • @WillProwse
      @WillProwse  Рік тому +6

      Because they are not thinking straight 😂 I agree with you

    • @patrickkenny2077
      @patrickkenny2077 Рік тому +1

      Completely agree, and think Dan should prioritize getting UL on the 300Ah units. The biggest advantage is once you go over 6 units; you need a disconnect/fuse for each group of 6. With the 300Ah that is 90kWh before you are required to start adding additional disconnects/fuses.

  • @jasonhill9088
    @jasonhill9088 Рік тому +4

    Just wondering if the positive wire will block the screen on the smaller battery? Great video, I look forward to the max testing video.

  • @jimraelee
    @jimraelee 9 місяців тому

    great vid will. Perfect timing of find this vid, we need to replace some 48v AGM 400a we have now. These will be out in a unheated shop inside insulated box. should still work.

  • @user-cl8il2cj4r
    @user-cl8il2cj4r Рік тому

    I bought the 220 AH Trophy Batteries. Happy

  • @Scat.original
    @Scat.original Рік тому +1

    What brand of Inverter and charge controller do they work with? I am interested in if the work with EG4 and Victron Inverters and Charge controllers. Thanks for a great video

  • @ElderlyIron
    @ElderlyIron Рік тому +1

    Why not partner with another company? Trust. Who do you allow to destroy your reputation? When they go down, you go down.

  • @MarkfromArizona
    @MarkfromArizona Рік тому

    You talking about Dan . Dan seems like someone is older generation with skills instilled in him. Customer service , maybe a engineering degree and old school simplicity. He knows how to keep cost down ! Kinda reminds me of my dad in his business when people ask if he took PayPal , lol...He always did checks and wire transfers . Wait to see more on these batterie's.

  • @JayRuperRoe
    @JayRuperRoe Рік тому +3

    Would love to hear if someone has parrelled 2 of the 304's and hooked them up to a Sol-Ark 15. How's the communication between them?

    • @jfryeguy2
      @jfryeguy2 Рік тому

      I would like to know this also. I have 2 Sol ark 12.

  • @EndlessChicken
    @EndlessChicken Рік тому +1

    Can you please review the anker 767 powerhouse. It looks promising!

  • @extendedp1
    @extendedp1 24 дні тому +1

    Thanks for the video. What was the price at the time of the video, when you said they were the cheapest? Because they are $4700 for the 48V 300AH model now in Aug 2024, not really cheap.

  • @trevortrevortsr2
    @trevortrevortsr2 Рік тому

    As always a enjoyable articulate evaluation - Happy new Year Will - hope you have a gooden !

  • @jasepowers9335
    @jasepowers9335 Рік тому

    Hi will thanks for your vids I am in the uk and find it hard for any self build kits that look like quality products i have found growatt and victron but the suppliers are very reluctant to sell any kits without the doing the install which is frustrating thanks again keep up the good work thanks jp

  • @DisgruntledVet
    @DisgruntledVet Рік тому

    I love the looks of the battery. Very clean.

  • @CamboLivin
    @CamboLivin Рік тому +3

    Thanks for all of your hard work!

  • @nicklausarakawa4274
    @nicklausarakawa4274 Рік тому +4

    Will these talk to the EG4 Inverters? I'm looking to build a backup power solar cart in the future, something to output about 3k VA for Freezers and Fridge and run the house off while the power is out. I like the option of the Heaters as well.

    • @AtlantaSoundGuy
      @AtlantaSoundGuy Рік тому +2

      I have the same question… will these talk to my current EG4 / Growatt system ???

  • @jacquesdutron9954
    @jacquesdutron9954 Рік тому

    Thank you so mch WTG, you're amazing as usual in what you do. For the last few years, I have been dealing with Discovery AES batteries. I really wish you could look into them. The only ones that can be flown on a plane and you can mount them upside down too, to make an easy connection with the next battery. 2,000 amp @ 24 Volt & 6,550 amp @ 48 volt. Thx Will, wishing you a wonderful new year.

    • @ericklein5097
      @ericklein5097 Рік тому

      $1000 per Kwh.....the BattleBorn of large LiFeP04 batteries.
      The name of the game is $300 per Kwh.
      Raw 280Ah LiFeP04 cells come out at $120 per Kwh when you buy 16 of them. Not EV grade so this is where the price point Trophy is at makes sense.
      I guess there's a market for Discovery AES though

  • @damienxcelcier6591
    @damienxcelcier6591 Рік тому +1

    Hey there, this is more of a recommendation to all purchasers of these packs than anything else really. Mr. Prowse is one of the most knowledgeable people out there when it comes to off-grid, solar setups and battery units, so I trust what he says is extremely accurate. However, this issue becomes a severe concern for me. As Mr. Prowse has mentioned, these are not UL / ULC certified, so legally can not be used inside the U.S or Canada. That doesn’t mean you can’t use them, it means that if you do, you assume all responsibility and liability. If there is a fault that caused a fire for example, insurance will not cover any portion of the damages or repairs. There is another step that must be taken to legalize this. You have to contract a UL/ULC certified company to certify your equipment prior to energization. Once certified, you keep all copies of your records, and as such would be operating this equipment within the parameters of the applicable laws, codes and restrictions, which then makes it insurable.
    Keep up the great work Mr. Prowse!

  • @acinfla9615
    @acinfla9615 Рік тому +5

    Your killing me Will
    I have been waiting to purchase batteries for months and the day I order batteries from signature solar you put out this video!
    Now I’ll be second guessing my decision.😂😂😂

    • @steveo4436
      @steveo4436 Рік тому +3

      You won’t be disappointed

    • @WillProwse
      @WillProwse  Рік тому +3

      Yeah you're good to go with signature solar stuff

  • @jvm3753
    @jvm3753 Рік тому +2

    Will, what's the hang up of connecting a Trophy battery to different inverters? Is there a communication issue?

  • @KyleConnect
    @KyleConnect 5 місяців тому

    Might want to update links, the sites working when you search for it but the links from your video are broken... Great video as always.

  • @ReflectedMiles
    @ReflectedMiles Рік тому +4

    The reason I haven't considered them is because they also don't sell 24V models, which is my personal standard as my systems aren't that large and it makes them interchangeable between my fixed and mobile platforms (either can charge the other without any conversion, etc.).

    • @mikef1570
      @mikef1570 Рік тому +1

      Dan said he can get you a 24v custom made. But shipping from China will make it $$$.

    • @ReflectedMiles
      @ReflectedMiles Рік тому

      @@mikef1570 Yeah, custom always means that. Thanks for the info, though!

    • @mikef1570
      @mikef1570 Рік тому

      @@ReflectedMiles I ended up with 4 of the epoch 24v.

    • @ReflectedMiles
      @ReflectedMiles Рік тому

      @@mikef1570 Sounds good. I don't need the heating function, or so rarely that it makes more sense just to use low-temperature charging cut-off for those short periods of time, so I am sticking with other server-rack options.

  • @ArcticSeaCamel
    @ArcticSeaCamel Рік тому +2

    Great video as always! Thank you for making these. What would be good addition to your channel would be testing bigger 48 to 92 volt BMS's :)

  • @wheeled11
    @wheeled11 Рік тому +1

    Could these be used in a golf cart? They are much better priced than most golf cart battery packs.

  • @Subgunman
    @Subgunman Рік тому +2

    I prefer the DeWalt storage rack over a server rack. I find that the steel used on the bolt rails is too thin and you need to use a rack with rear rails as well. One needs to create a shelf between the front and rear supports and slide the packs onto the shelves. Get too high and you need to bolt the server rack to the floor and wall. You also need a safe lifting device to get packs into place.

  • @westcocoagorilla380
    @westcocoagorilla380 Рік тому

    Fantastic, thank you Will for the review.

  • @stefansiggy
    @stefansiggy Рік тому +2

    I've got several lfp batteries from different companies and also have experience with building with bare cells. I've started with cells and switched to pre-built rack/powerwalls but I'm starting to gravitate back towards the bare cells with a JBD 16S BMS that can work with (for example) Growatt inverters. It's so much cheaper at

  • @brianpaul9767
    @brianpaul9767 Рік тому +1

    Will, do these batteries communicate to EG4 inverters without issues?

  • @xpcamposxp
    @xpcamposxp Рік тому

    Hi Will! I’ve started to watch your videos a few months ago. Thanks a lot for your daily effort to bring us always new and relevant information! I’m from Portugal and most of the times my struggle is to find a vendor who ships to europe/Portugal. My goal is to design a system for my future house, that would use most of the time energy from photovoltaic panels / batteries to support all the loads and only get from grid the delta energy. So I would apreciate a video taking this in consideration.

  • @markdurham6761
    @markdurham6761 10 місяців тому

    Will, Trophy does have UL listed batteries now. Mark Durham

  • @Dennis-mq6or
    @Dennis-mq6or Рік тому +2

    Simple question:
    If I have an LiFePO4 battery rated for 4000 cycles to 80%; how many cycles are left in the battery when it gets to that 80% point?
    The reason I ask is because there are so many used batteries being sold as 80% of original capacity remaining for really low prices.
    If you have already done a video about this subject, I must have missed it, and would appreciate a link to that video.
    If you have not done a video related to the 'used battery' subject; I am sure that I am not the only person who would be very interested in your opinions relating to them.

  • @robertprince7941
    @robertprince7941 Рік тому +3

    I wish you talked about communicating with them and shown what the size of all models is.

    • @WillProwse
      @WillProwse  Рік тому +6

      Oh the dimensions of the other sizes? And I have given up on communication for all server rack batteries 😂 might be time to revisit that and try again

    • @michiganengineer8621
      @michiganengineer8621 Рік тому +2

      @@WillProwse Please do revisit the communications Will. I know that I would prefer to have the batteries "talking" with the inverter/charger and to have ALL of the information through one single app, whether that's a Sol-Ark, Victron or whatever.

    • @tujuprojects
      @tujuprojects Рік тому

      @@michiganengineer8621 we already know that it’s crap. Victron has compatibility page and crap doesn’t land there.

    • @michiganengineer8621
      @michiganengineer8621 Рік тому +1

      @@tujuprojects Could be. From what I've seen Victron concentrates on "Certified" batteries. As Will pointed out, these are NOT UL tested. I'd be more interested to see/hear what Sol-Ark thinks about them.

    • @tujuprojects
      @tujuprojects Рік тому

      @@michiganengineer8621 australian Andy has been studying Seplos and it’s utter crap. Not worth of those saved euros.

  • @goose-F16
    @goose-F16 Рік тому

    ha.. those 304's are the same KWH as my old chevy volt 2.. all in one container.. thats awesome.. thats alot of trons.. keep up the great work Will.

  • @DoorPro3667
    @DoorPro3667 Рік тому

    Dan is my solar hero!

  • @X_iCjay
    @X_iCjay Рік тому

    Happy New Year’s, solar panel guy🎉

  • @GavinStoneDIY
    @GavinStoneDIY Рік тому +1

    I’d still like for you to take a look the pytes server rack batteries that Ian carries at watts247. I’m just curious what their guts look like.

  • @edgarmuller6652
    @edgarmuller6652 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for the “Boring batteries” video. Thumbs up.
    Would you recommend which inverter or management system could go with this batteries?

  • @Eco_KAT
    @Eco_KAT Рік тому

    The term Legend has devalued over the years from pulling a sword from stone to someone unexpectedly bringing in a pack of chips

  • @niffrig
    @niffrig Рік тому

    Thanks for blowing the pricing

  • @glenshaver9013
    @glenshaver9013 Рік тому

    Thanks , this great ,we appreciate your opinion again .

  • @antiLeixo
    @antiLeixo Рік тому

    wow you really take notice in your pool results :D

  • @childrenofthesun.542
    @childrenofthesun.542 Рік тому +1

    I might try these next go around right now im all signature solar.

  • @mellyons4052
    @mellyons4052 Рік тому +2

    Great info .. will they work / talk with Victron gear ?

  • @RokDAWG1
    @RokDAWG1 Рік тому

    I’d love to see you put together the ultimate used solar panel & battery system.

  • @TheKickrecords
    @TheKickrecords Рік тому

    I have the same hat you are wearing in this video and I love that hat. It looks better on you but I still love that hat

  • @brianhamm8940
    @brianhamm8940 Рік тому

    Around the 13min mark you state these are EV grade UL Listed but earlier I thought you said they were not UL listed which may prohibit grid interaction. Are you referring to the cells that are UL listed but the server rack units are not UL listed? Thanks (Awesome videos, keep up the great work)

  • @johncowie3092
    @johncowie3092 Рік тому

    If the only downside is they don’t look cool….. great video really informative as usual

  • @saberferjani1569
    @saberferjani1569 Рік тому

    Hey Will, thanks for these insightful and inspiring videos. There's always something to learn!
    I am curious if there is any chance you can test/review the trendy lifepo4 blade cells. Looking forward to get your opinion on those.

  • @soulofjacobeh
    @soulofjacobeh Рік тому +2

    "These batteries are kind of boring because they just work."
    Will Prowse Endorsement™ lmao

    • @WillProwse
      @WillProwse  Рік тому

      😂😂

    • @henleyont
      @henleyont Рік тому

      So, I wounder what's it's going to cost to get one 300Ah to New Zealand

  • @MJ-ge6jz
    @MJ-ge6jz Рік тому +1

    With signaturesolar holiday sale you can save over $4400 for the same amount of storage, using 120Kwatt Ah capacity as an example.

    • @deang5622
      @deang5622 Рік тому

      You've got two different units mixed up. You've combined them together which is incorrect.
      Battery capacity can be in Ah (or ah) OR kWh. But it is never KWAh.
      So in your case, the 120Kwatt Ah should be 120 kWh. Or it could be 120ah.

  • @drunk_astronomy
    @drunk_astronomy Рік тому +1

    Sup Will, just wondering if at a later date coving subjects like GFCI protection devices, SPD’s and wiring equipment. It’s not a very sexy topic I admit, but I’d love to hear your take on the subject at some point. Love the channel btw!

  • @johnmorton7577
    @johnmorton7577 Рік тому

    I think you for all of the great information on your channel

  • @222dyan
    @222dyan Рік тому

    Thanks, Wiil. I think it is a pro that there are are no flashy colors.
    Great information thanks so much.

  • @chuck7465
    @chuck7465 Рік тому

    Great review, keep them coming!

  • @TimRoyalPastortim
    @TimRoyalPastortim Рік тому +1

    I think you crashed their website Will! Can only access the homepage not through affiliate links or shopping links

  • @mikefa5891
    @mikefa5891 Рік тому

    hi Will, please consider doing a review on the Mango Power e portable whole house backup system - it has gotten a lot of positive reviews from many UA-cam reviewers, but we would like to hear your honest and unbiased review.

  • @KevinM-ov3qr
    @KevinM-ov3qr Рік тому +1

    Do you ever try the communication ports? Would be interested in knowing if the communicate with a Victorian controller so it knows the state of charge and can provide the proper charging profile

  • @cecilialater2222
    @cecilialater2222 Рік тому

    Thanks for all the info, Will. Would you do an updated video on the Titan? Any problems so far?

  • @andrewbarbro7032
    @andrewbarbro7032 Рік тому +3

    Quick Question Can the different capacity unit be paralleled together. The website says qty 10 can be paralleled. So if I can buy the larger one now but need to add over time with a smaller capacity, do you see any issue with that?