Very cool and impressive work. I'll have to wait for a Mac version though, but I'm impressed and it's making me want to do my own plugins for certain needs :-)
Bravo! I think the time is right for a VST plug-in that can resolve compressor values based on the BPM. Bpm/Ratio/Threshold/Attack/Release/Gain. I believe the BPM can reveal these settings. I've been working with this to try a formulaic approach in applying compression, instead of working only by ear and best guessing. Surely a more accurate approach and result is possible.
Its not as simple as that. Let's assume a bpm of 126 and now solve the attack, ratio, release, makeup gain and knee using the formula you suggest. If you wouldn't mind for all to understand if you would give the macros so we can all see how to do this. Thanks in advance for the reveal.
MISTAKE - the molot compressor allows you to change attack behavior. Click the small white arrow in the bottom left corner and you will be able to change into very very quick attack times, max 10ms - you can make sure on your display; the attack will show max 10-1000 ms depending on your settings
This is absolutely wonderful! Is there a way of measuring attack and release times standardly in a daw, without these plugins? Just wondering if it's quite hard or not
just downloaded the latest release as of today and the A/R times are all over the place: @48 SR ...also is it very normal for a purely digital compressor like FIRCOMP to show different shapes for the same attack time
@@letimix LetiMix Thank you very much ! It works for the most part :) Weirdly, the numerical keyboard entry doesn't work and the html file can't be opened with Chrome but it works with Safari, although there's some text layers crashing with each other. Anyway, it's still a fantastic tool for testing compressors and the results are somehow disturbing but very enlightening !
Есть баг с Test Tone Generator. Win10 x64, Reaper последних версий. Test Tone Generator при загрузке на дорожку не выдает сигнала на дефолтных настройках, также невозможно заставить его генерить сигнал включением плагина и байпассами.
This looks like an awesome idea. I have been looking high and low for something to measure compression. An actual measurement takes the theory part out of it. But it does not work with Logic 10.6. Is there anyone who is helping you test the mac version?
Hello! Thank you! It was released three years ago and was tested in Windows mainly, Mac version was an experiment (though it works for many users, it definitely has some issues to be worked on). Since then I was thinking about rewriting and improving this tool, hope to find time for that!
@@letimix Thank you for your reply. My friend and I would be interested in helping with that work. My friend is and electronic engineer. Maybe we can help with the Mac version.
@@letimix yes another request for this, please do update to be fully compatible with Mac AU when you have time. I had been searching for a plugin like this to measure different compressors to understand better. What a great tool this would be! have your GainMatch plugin, fantastic tool also!
@@letimix thank you it is in my computer and showing up in logic, i followed your manual step by step but all the readings are way off. My compressor attack time was at 10 milliseconds and my release time was at 100 milliseconds and the program read 40 milliseconds attack and 600 milliseconds release ? how can the readings be so off if i followed your directions ?
@@DerekSamuelReese All manufacturers use different ways to calculate attack and release, that's why there are such differences. This plugin was calibrated using Oxford Compressor (and many other compressors follow the rule of approx. ~60%). If you understand how attack and release can be calculated (it's explained in the video and in the manual), then you can test with different compressors and see how different are the results compared to what the settings are labeled.
@@ilyukchiljin7640 take a look: github.com/ilyaorlovru/cmt Let me know, if you can use it in your Plug-n-Script! (Don't forget to add new skin files first, check the readme)
@@VICTORFERREIA1987, please, give more information. what files are you talking about and what are you planning to do. If you need to install VST plugins, check out your DAW's manual!
Impressive stuff! Have you thought about how to tackle all the program dependent variations on release curves and timings? Sometimes even attack is program dependent.. meaning it can be different depending on how large the "block" of audio is. The ratio or threshold also varies quite a bit on different compressors depending on frequency of the audio content (for instance the LA2A hardware is highly frequency dependent). Currently your tool is only giving a quite rough universal idea of attack and release times but these should really be measured with a bunch of variable audio chunk sizes and at varying frequencies. Easiest to read would be to interleave multiple results taken at different frequency and block size intervals.
Thank you, Niklas! Yes, I'm aware of that. Right now I'm interested in making a tool for measuring frequency response of a compressor and GR it makes at different frequencies. This way it'll be possible to see if a compressor has for example a hi-pass filter in it's detector chain. But that's only plans for now. Considering attack release - there's a possibility in test tone generator to set very short "hi level" spikes (a little knob appears for that). This way we can check if attack/release is different for short events.
This is an absolutely fantastic tool! I've been using this quite extensively in my own analysis of the plugins I use.
What a super gift! Thank you so much. That's exactly what I was looking for. You made my day.
This is absolutely beautiful, thanks for sharing!
Unbelievably cool. What a gift.
Very cool and impressive work. I'll have to wait for a Mac version though, but I'm impressed and it's making me want to do my own plugins for certain needs :-)
That's great!
You can try the Mac version now: files.letimix.com/cmt
Very nice video, bro this attack release blue cat audio sem system paid which one plugin ?
Nice tool to help us understand compressors. Thanks for sharing.
Absolutely brilliant. Thank you for this.
Bravo! I think the time is right for a VST plug-in that can resolve compressor values based on the BPM. Bpm/Ratio/Threshold/Attack/Release/Gain. I believe the BPM can reveal these settings. I've been working with this to try a formulaic approach in applying compression, instead of working only by ear and best guessing. Surely a more accurate approach and result is possible.
Well if you do 60,000 divided bpm of track you won’t have to worry about all of that
Its not as simple as that. Let's assume a bpm of 126 and now solve the attack, ratio, release, makeup gain and knee using the formula you suggest. If you wouldn't mind for all to understand if you would give the macros so we can all see how to do this. Thanks in advance for the reveal.
Interesting video. The IKM la2a you had set on Limit mode, not Compression. Thats why the value was strange with a lot of gain reduction.
Thanks for noticing!
Incredible. Thanks so much for this :) Testing on Mac and seems OK so far.
MISTAKE - the molot compressor allows you to change attack behavior. Click the small white arrow in the bottom left corner and you will be able to change into very very quick attack times, max 10ms - you can make sure on your display; the attack will show max 10-1000 ms depending on your settings
This is absolutely wonderful! Is there a way of measuring attack and release times standardly in a daw, without these plugins? Just wondering if it's quite hard or not
AMAZING!!! thank you this is very helpfull
Great work! Any chance on making a release for Linux VST3 or other plugin type compatible with Ardour? Thank You very much!
Thank you! If/When Blue Cat Audio's Plug'n Script starts supporting Linux - then for sure! Though there's no signs of that for the momens!
Genius
just downloaded the latest release as of today and the A/R times are all over the place: @48 SR ...also is it very normal for a purely digital compressor like FIRCOMP to show different shapes for the same attack time
Awesome tool
Thanks for this.... ❤️
This is great, thank you very much. I'm looking for further developments, maybe saturation shape measurement?
Yes, I was thinking of that too!
@@letimix Please!!
Man, this looks awesome ! Thank you very much ;) Gonna try it asap and be sure I'll send you something very soon !
You're welcome! :)
@@letimix Have a drink on me ;)
Awesome plugin! 💪🏻👌🏻🥳
Wow. Fantastic work!
Nice 😊
This is just great!
Thanx!
Just saw that it is Windows only for now... Can't wait to try the Mac version :) If you need some help for beta testing, let me know ;)
Please, try the Mac VST version: dl.letimix.com/letimix/cmt/CMT_Mac_VST.zip
Tell me, if it works for you!
@@letimix LetiMix Thank you very much ! It works for the most part :) Weirdly, the numerical keyboard entry doesn't work and the html file can't be opened with Chrome but it works with Safari, although there's some text layers crashing with each other. Anyway, it's still a fantastic tool for testing compressors and the results are somehow disturbing but very enlightening !
Thank you and a lot!
Есть баг с Test Tone Generator. Win10 x64, Reaper последних версий. Test Tone Generator при загрузке на дорожку не выдает сигнала на дефолтных настройках, также невозможно заставить его генерить сигнал включением плагина и байпассами.
аналогичная ситуация на win11 в fl studio :( просто не генерит сигнал
Спасибо, поправил, попробуйте версию 1.21:
files.letimix.com/cmt
@@letimix Спасибо, заценим!
This looks like an awesome idea. I have been looking high and low for something to measure compression. An actual measurement takes the theory part out of it. But it does not work with Logic 10.6. Is there anyone who is helping you test the mac version?
Hello! Thank you! It was released three years ago and was tested in Windows mainly, Mac version was an experiment (though it works for many users, it definitely has some issues to be worked on). Since then I was thinking about rewriting and improving this tool, hope to find time for that!
@@letimix Thank you for your reply. My friend and I would be interested in helping with that work. My friend is and electronic engineer. Maybe we can help with the Mac version.
@@letimix yes another request for this, please do update to be fully compatible with Mac AU when you have time. I had been searching for a plugin like this to measure different compressors to understand better. What a great tool this would be! have your GainMatch plugin, fantastic tool also!
@@Novasoul Thank you! Will try to!
I have downloaded this for mac, but i don't know where to go to open the plugin ? help please
Hello! Usually you put AU into your /Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/Components
@@letimix thank you it is in my computer and showing up in logic, i followed your manual step by step but all the readings are way off. My compressor attack time was at 10 milliseconds and my release time was at 100 milliseconds and the program read 40 milliseconds attack and 600 milliseconds release ? how can the readings be so off if i followed your directions ?
@@DerekSamuelReese All manufacturers use different ways to calculate attack and release, that's why there are such differences. This plugin was calibrated using Oxford Compressor (and many other compressors follow the rule of approx. ~60%). If you understand how attack and release can be calculated (it's explained in the video and in the manual), then you can test with different compressors and see how different are the results compared to what the settings are labeled.
Cool!
Great work! Do you have a github repository for this project? Would love to learn how you wrote the codes for this project!
Hey! I was thinking about it. It's not very optimized, though, but maybe I'll share it on github.
@@letimix That'd be awesome :) maybe some of us can help out with optimization as well!
@@ilyukchiljin7640 take a look: github.com/ilyaorlovru/cmt
Let me know, if you can use it in your Plug-n-Script! (Don't forget to add new skin files first, check the readme)
@@letimix
Hi. I downloaded the files but I can not open them. Can you explain me in what folders do I have to put the files ?? Thanks..
@@VICTORFERREIA1987, please, give more information. what files are you talking about and what are you planning to do. If you need to install VST plugins, check out your DAW's manual!
Can I measure hardware with this ?
That was the purpose of this plugin, so yes, you can.
@@letimix great , i looked at the manual and assumed you were measuring plugins
Impressive stuff! Have you thought about how to tackle all the program dependent variations on release curves and timings? Sometimes even attack is program dependent.. meaning it can be different depending on how large the "block" of audio is. The ratio or threshold also varies quite a bit on different compressors depending on frequency of the audio content (for instance the LA2A hardware is highly frequency dependent). Currently your tool is only giving a quite rough universal idea of attack and release times but these should really be measured with a bunch of variable audio chunk sizes and at varying frequencies. Easiest to read would be to interleave multiple results taken at different frequency and block size intervals.
Thank you, Niklas!
Yes, I'm aware of that. Right now I'm interested in making a tool for measuring frequency response of a compressor and GR it makes at different frequencies. This way it'll be possible to see if a compressor has for example a hi-pass filter in it's detector chain. But that's only plans for now.
Considering attack release - there's a possibility in test tone generator to set very short "hi level" spikes (a little knob appears for that). This way we can check if attack/release is different for short events.
download for mac did not work
what's the facebook page ?, thanks