Honestly dating apps absolutely annihilated my self-esteem. The constant ghosting, matching with next to no one, the "message you once and never speak to you again" people which is honestly in the same vein as people who just never initiate conversation or ever message you. Prompting you to ask why they still have you matched? Who knows! They for some reason won't ever delete you though! Doing all the work in conversations, the conversation lives and dies with you, they put in no effort and don't try to keep it going and making subjects, asking questions about you n' all that. I hate these stupid dating sites, and i've been trying to find a partner since college, i'm in my late twenties now and honestly i'm just so utterly bitter and resentful about it all. And the worse part is I don't even know how you're supposed to meet women irl. These days you're essentially labeled as a creep just for looking at or talking to a woman. It's truly unbelievable. Everyone tells me to meet women at bars or whatever, but I don't drink and like, the type of people i'm interested in don't hang out at bars. Work's not the best place for that, and these days people at jobs don't even want to be friends or talk to you/acknowledge you outside of the job, let alone try to pursue dating. I just don't know what the fu*k to do anymore in terms of relationships in general. It's like everyone expects you to put in all the work while they do nothing back. And people just overly valuing themselves.
Dude. There are places to meet people, that not necessarily means to aproach a woman at any moment (that’s is weird for anyone). For example, you can join an sport club (of one sport that forces you to interact with people), dance club, board games club, etc. You not only have to go to bars. But you have to push yourself to situations of socializing.
I would say focus on your weaknesses in life. For me i had everything going except one thing. I didn’t own a vehicle but was driving for nearly 8 years. Now that i have a vehicle it’s like… different in an irritating way. It’s a nice truck too. 2016 chevy silverado 1500. Shiny white with black rims and a really expensive bedcover to match the rims. Just do you man. Look at yourself in the mirror, assess your weaknesses and have fun challenging yourself to conquer them. Before you know it, you will notice how women approach you.
I would recommend you get on your life and forget about women. Do everything right for yourself. Just be sure to not have any approach anxiety. Some woman will look at you with nice eyes and you will take the chance. For example I would concentrate in becoming an engineer, getting a nicer body, and Riding my motorcycle
My recommendation: understand your purpose & chase that, don’t sell your self short, because once you get the girl she must desire to be in your world (whatever that looks like). You must be in the gym, don’t need to be “jacked” but look like a man, be lean. Hire a life coach or dating coach.
It's true. I once made a false profile using a male model's pictures and the amount of matches I got was ridiculous. I could also be rude and sexist towards my matches and they were like "lol, God yes, more please". It was mind boggling I deleted the app after two days. Never again.
@@JoesVinylShow1980 just google chad tinder experiement there is so much video where women beg to date them even if chad fake profile says he did bad things to kids and stuff like this
Dating apps are the biggest joke going. 30 - 40 year old single mums who think they are flat 10 out of 10s and expect nothing less than a celebrity with looks money and status.
@@Traumatised311 Because they're promiscuous for the sake of being promiscuous. Right now is time in the US when being a traditional monogamous woman is being looked down upon and most western women under 50 think that's shameful and backwards. Feminism in the west means pushing boundaries as far as you can in the west. Any criticism or even debate about what a women's morals should or shouldn't be would be considered anti feminist in the US. I can't speak for the UK.
@@jesusnieves9221 but there's safe sex condoms Pills birth controls etc How come they're hooking up Also women r also attracted to men n feel like hooking up So don't think women don't wanna hookup But women r picky n don't wanna fuck any man
This is true. On a whim to see what was out there I put my profile on Facebook dating. In a couple of weeks time, I had maybe two or three likes. All from out of shape unattractive women. I'm 41, no debt, reasonably good shape, attractive for my age, average height. Even the single mothers ignored me, lol. It's one giant joke. Honestly, most of these people deserve to be alone.
I know 3 females (2 of them have kids and are divorced)... they are still in good shape but they have been single for years and even though they get "dates" they can't get a guy to commit. One of them (whos 27 and no kids) was single for 3 years, got a bf for a month and he dumped her. This illusion that they have tons of choices has completely messed them up and they are all looking for men well above their SMV. They priced themselves out of the market completely and there will be many many single lonely females because they would rather stay single than date a guy thats on their level.
@@BillClinton228 That's bullshit to say they cant get a guy to commit or have an illusion of choice. They do have an tons of choices, it's NOT an illusion. They take the conscious decision to not date/commit with a certains type men according to their standard. They are not victim.
@@Ludo045 most men hitting up women just want to fuck and nothing else; some women are attracted to male whores aka "bad boys" and won't give the nice ones/men who want to marry and raise children a chance; many women say they don't want bad boys but are still very attracted to them and the adrenaline rushes they bring (and drugs). They got hangups. Men make the mistake of making the first move, acting awkward, way too desperate, and way too thirsty for fucking. WOMEN should make the first move; the reason, they decide which man they want anyways. Men can't hit on women anymore; if the woman isn't attracted to him (which will be the case most of the time), he'll be labeled a creep and/or perv, get scolded by the woman or ignored like he isn't even there, and/or "cock blocked" by a man/white knight in shining armor who will threaten to beat him up (to impress the woman). Besides half of our population is morbidly obese and not attractive; the few good, athletic-looking men and women are in HOT demand and get taken off the market FAST; prostitution is illegal in most locations in the US so these desperate, sex-deprived, mentally ill men can't get the therapy they need; they can't hire a hooker to quench their thirst and began acting like a normal man (a man that doesn't send dick pics to random women). If these fat, ugly desperate men could just fuck an attractive prostitute once in a while, but not procreate, that would eliminate all the thirsty, desperate men begging women for sex on dating sites. No need for dating sites if the women attracted to bad men can be a prostitute and make tons of money, or create an onlyfans website dedicated to SIMPS. A lot of women on dating sites don't know what kind of man they want; some aren't even ready for a relationship but are on there anyways. Dating sites suck for me because a romance scammer/fake, attractive person is always hitting me up. They instantly get reported and blocked.
Great video. Another factor is their business mode is literally based on frustrating average guys into endless swiping and eventually paying for upgrades. It’s one of the few businesses that depends on providing a poor customer experience. If tinder’s goal was actually to help people get dates they would place a limit on the number of matches a chad can have.
Yep, their business model is about selling inkwells the hopes/copes of getting Chad’s results. 🖐😂 It’s always the bottom getting 🍇d, business as usual. ☝️💀
@@GGWP-nx3kn ok but here's the idea, women make 80% of consumer choices, they make purchases way more easily than men. If chads can only have like 10 matches, women will buy anything to get their attention. And they can sell more match slots. So Tinder would actually make more money that way. Market to women, not the men.
@@WheatWaffles Wheat Waffles, this video of Tinder and online dating reminds me of this 2016 video of this guy who is wondering why he isnt getting matches on tinder. He even created two accounts. The comments are hilarious on that video. Here is the link: ua-cam.com/video/6_J8dHLe1Vc/v-deo.html
Another reason not to use dating apps: cold-hearted and mean-spirited women will screenshot your unattractive photos and send them to their friends and post them on the Internet for sick kicks. I've seen it happen. It's awful.
it's so fucking real. i feel so bad for all the guys whose photos and\or messages were mocked by women just because they don't consider unattractive men as human beings with feelings.
answer me.. the best solution is educated women from childwood the values of life , and valuate more the personality of a men, and accept men(ugly, average, handsome) without toxic rules imposed by society. That would make more balance in dating opportunities between ugly and handsome men.. What do you think guys? this isn't a good idea? Please answer me if you dont mind
Reason Number 6 from personal experience: The constant rejection and ghosting will have you question your value as man and lead to a deterioration of your SMV as you doubt yourself and straight up depression. The air and women are fresher outside, get out there.
@Randall Swanson Dunno man, I think the reason that I didn't get your humor is because english isn't my first laguage. The last sentence of your first comment just sounds passive agressive/dismissive but I might be reading that into that message, so sorry if that wasn't the case.
@Randall Swanson Germany. Tbh I can't answer that question that easily. I just like to watch these videos since I'm probably gonna be something similar to a psychologist, so I try to broaden my horizon looking at different viewpoints. The thing is I life in a rural and conservative area so online dating isn't that big here. I've seen some woman go absolutely bonkers over a friend of mine (he looks almost exactly like Sean O Pry). So I'd say looks obviously matter. When looking at the red pill I think some people don't really understand what they are talking about. first of all we need to look at how Emotions work. A lot of people simply don't understand that you can't create emotions in other people. Emotions aren't uncotrollable reactions at all. The only person who can create Emotions is you yourself. Heres how sexual attraction works: Men: Since outside things can't "trigger" emotions you have to create them somehow. Obviously if I see a woman I need to decide whether or not I find her attractive. If I decide that she's attractive thats what allows me the feel attraction. I thinks its also a logical conclusion to say that the sexual attraction is gonna be more intense the more attractive she is. I need to use a really weird metaphor I learned a while ago here, but think it'll make sense when I'm talking about womans sexual attraction. When a man masturbates he's obviously gonna try to maximize the intensity of the emotion. Looks play a major role, but I doubt a lot of men imagine a assertive masculine woman during that, because thats a huge turn off. Most will obviously think about a submissive and attractive woman. So the biggest emotional load comes from Looks + feminine personality traits The same thing has to be true for woman. They need to create an emotional load somehow. So they're obviously gonna imagine a really attractive guy, but also a dominant one. They're not gonna imagine a crying annd scared wimp. And imo that's where this whole be confident thing comes from. Personality plays a role but for a woman to feel sexual attraction for you being confindent is like the minimum requirement - just like looks for men. for woman it's also a combination of looks + mascuiline personality traits.
Another scam is the fact that the apps deliberately boost mens ego. They give you many likes at first when you dont have gold and this plays on your curiosity to find out who liked you. Si you pay for it and find out. After you do that, you get 0 i mean 0 new likes or matches. A scam from the start, i absolutely hate the wickedness of Tinder
@JustAGuy InBensalem True marriage/relationships don't mean anything nowadays. I remember being with a woman who soon after we stopped having sex got married lmao. Which means she probably already knew the dude/had a serious relationship with him and I didn't know quack. Hope he escapes though.
@Jay Native You know they might be saying that they have a boyfriend when they are Not interested in someone. But still, many of them are totally not interested in meeting somebody in person. They just want to upload photos, write some short messages and get attention - receiving praise and compliments online. This is the worst about dating apps - many women want things to stay online, they do not want it to have impact on real life.
answer me.. the best solution is educated women from childwood the values of life , and valuate more the personality of a men, and accept men(ugly, average, handsome) without toxic rules imposed by society. That would make more balance in dating opportunities between ugly and handsome men.. What do you think guys? this isn't a good idea? Please answer me if you dont mind
@@jasonwilliams3095 Women view relations with men in transactional way. So it is all based on supply and demand in their minds. Internet created false demand as many men are willing to date down in terms of looks. When those women realize that those high quality men are NOT willing to get into relationships with them but are interested ONLY in short term hook -ups they lower down their expectations with time. This "woman is the prize" culture is everywhere in the XXIst century (unless we speak about exotic places like Afghanistan under the Taliban) so it will be very hard to completely change this. However your best option would be to look for a religious woman as religions (Catholic, Orthodox, Protestant, Sunni, Shia no matter which one) come from a more male oriented culture so it balances things up in the upbringing process of those girls.
I get attractive girls matching with me every day, the problem is once you say hi they never respond. They say they want a guy who's "not boring" but Jesus can't they at least get past "hello" before they start judging you're character? Lots of hookers on those apps too.
I'm a woman and I get that too. I try to not be boring during introduction but men just cut off my chat. People say don't judge but in dating most people are all time judgemental for unnecessary things.
One of the saddest things about OLD is that some of the women you see married today admit me that if they had access to Tinder when they were younger, their husband wouldn't stand a chance.
hopefully their husbands don't know. living with the thought that your wife settled for you as the consolation price is terrible. maybe they should relieve their wives of the terrible burden of being with them :D
@@erikjohansson6579 It's simple. Generally women don't want to be judged and criticized for anything. Doing that causes them to back off. You also cannot talk to them in a hostile fashion. They'll either laugh at you or think you're a threat. If you talk to them casually, they can be honest.
@@erikjohansson6579 Basically yes. It's gotten to the point where they tell on themselves. Look at the girl in the tiktok opening this video. She blatantly says "I have an absolute shit personality and deep issues and don't plan on doing anything about it" and posts it online for everyone to see. They literally think they can do no wrong. They don't have shame anymore.
You missed one: 6. Fake profiles. Many apps host profiles that have been created from profiles on _other_ apps that they own. For example, one company owns both app A and app B. A female user creates a profile on app A, which she uses. The company that owns both apps has fine print that she has agreed to, which allows them to use her profile info on app A to make _another_ profile for her on app B. She does _not_ use app B, so it is essentially a fake profile.
And the more fake profiles the company adds, the more it makes men want to be buy premium after they get no matches. Smart motherfuckers I'll give em that.
I litterally deleted all my datting apps after looking at this video. This man is right, even being decently attractive the quality of women fall far below the expected value you would have for them(which aint super high). Many time i landed on a good looking girl but she had serious issues or was just crazy. The logestics is not worth it over time and will make you depress, miserable and question yourself. This man speaks facts and these dating apps know this shit and cotinue to capitalize off our suffering as if they are playing god with our emotions. Its hella fucked up...
@@F3L3453 you think that but someone will reckonoze your worth and it will be worth the wait. We all in the same boat but we must keep being our best selves, regaurdless of the odds because one day they will be in our favor😂
@@DeadRatStew goddamnit you have to have the anikin skywalker name and pic😂😂. But in all seriousness, i understand how you feel, all to well might i add. Its almost like you have a chain attached to your leg with a weight around it that represents the pain and lost hope you carry. Its there to supress your happniess and love for yourself. The moment you break that chain and let go love will come from places you never expect it. However these dating apps are going to far lol. Makin a brotha depressed and shit😂😂
@gab hug tbh, ive taken all sorts of apporaches. But recently was the online thing. But ppl say its best to meet in person than online. Its like when ypu choose someone online you dont know what that person is gonna be like because there are a few factors missing which are important ones lol
he is right about the quality of the women.... 90-95% are complete clowns, time wasters, and only wanting attention. Any decent girl on a dating site finds a guy fast and gets off dating apps real fast. some of those attention seeking women have been on the sites for years.
I think tinder can be used to motivate you. Romantic relationships are also about communication and caring. I have found the most rewarding parts of being in a relationship is being able to care for someone and help them emotionally and with small chores. To me it is far more rewarding than sex to help. Especially when they are more relaxed around you and appreciate the extra work you do for them. Although I do not pay their bills.
Another important reason is scammers. For example: a "girl" invites you to a theater show (and leads you to a phishing site). Or a real girl takes you to a very expensive place where you invite her (and she has some deal with the owners). I am sure there are a lot of scammers out there, given how desperate guys are.
Im working for a site where Man pay 1,99 Euro for 1 coin What can you do with 1 coin? Sending a fake girl 1 massage wich gets anwsered by a moderator so jeha most Man a pretty dumb 2 be Honest
Don't forget all the gals looking for validation, ego boosting, having a bad day and need to reinforce their conviction that they're not that ugly (after being rejected by some chad IRL for ex) or looking for instagram subs or just simps to pay her dinner....
answer me.. the best solution is educated women from childwood the values of life , and valuate more the personality of a men, and accept men(ugly, average, handsome) without toxic rules imposed by society. That would make more balance in dating opportunities between ugly and handsome men.. What do you think guys? this isn't a good idea? Please answer me if you dont mind
The entitlement thing is real, I was dating this girl and her sister was showing me guys she thought were too ugly on tinder, and they were leagues better looking than the men that I've seen her date many times.
answer me.. the best solution is educated women from childwood the values of life , and valuate more the personality of a men, and accept men(ugly, average, handsome) without toxic rules imposed by society. That would make more balance in dating opportunities between ugly and handsome men.. What do you think guys? this isn't a good idea? Please answer me if you dont mind
All of this is true. Average or below average girls meet above average guys on these apps. And it always ends up that these guys just use these girls for a short period and for a roll in the hay. Then these girls end up hating Tinder and hating dating in general. They never realize how unrealistic they are. Average women should be interested in average men. Also, only 14% of men in the USA are 6 feet or taller and only 6% of men are 6 foot 2 or taller.....not good odds.
It's really not bad at all if you're decent-looking with a likable personality and have a good career though. Every man should have a good career with a likable personality if they truly want a girlfriend and the best chance at having a healthy relationship. Probably 85%+ of men on dating apps don't meet these 2 minimum requirements which aren't expressed in this video
answer me.. the best solution is educated women from childwood the values of life , and valuate more the personality of a men, and accept men(ugly, average, handsome) without toxic rules imposed by society. That would make more balance in dating opportunities between ugly and handsome men.. What do you think guys? this isn't a good idea? Please answer me if you dont mind
Also at least until recently tinder rated its users with the elo rating system. A rating system that is used in games like chess. When you encounter a profile you can imagine it as a chess game, if you like it but it doesn't like you you lose rating points according to its rating. If it's a match and it's a high rated profile you gain rating points. If it likes you and you reject it it loses rating points.
@@tvbuu As far as physical attraction goes, they care about looks the most. They care about resources too because they want to have it easy, but they'll never truly desire the guy with resources but no looks. They will marry him, but still fantasize and/or cheat with the handsome tall guy, even if he's a loser deadbeat. They'll even try to have the child of the guy with good genes and have the hardworking guy with resources raise it, whether it's becoming a single mom and then finding a provider, or simply cheating and passing up the child as her husband's.
Unfortunately, after college it's really the only way to meet women if you don't have a large circle of people you know. Unless you want to date someone you work with, which I don't think is advisable.
I don't always agree with your content, but this video is spot on. I'm living proof. I'd consider myself average, and received a whopping 5 cold messages this whole year. And that's a record. Last year I did a catfish experiment with a Chad profile and I got 100 notification in a week.
Among all the Bp channels, this one is the best. Not only because of the brutality, but because it also spreads the awareness among men, something makes you satisfied being a blackpiller
don’t label yourself as a blackpiller or any ideology, simply observe the ideas from a rational perspective, listen to every side and always challenge and criticize your own beliefs. No one of us is unbiased.
@@bobbadman1551 there is no such thing as an unbiased view or a rational perspective. That itself is again a frame. You can not escape having an ideology
@@aldoushuxley5953 Ideologies mean that you are 100% of a certain worldview and beliefsystem without being willing to change it over time after looking from other perspectives. Someone who believes 100% in the Blackpill is deluded. Someone who believes 100% in Redpill is deluded, too. I know both sides very well, had also a lot of experience in cold approach pickup, i‘m not saying that everything i believe at this moment is true, but i can tell you both worldviews and interpretation of their „scientific evidence“ are heavily flawed in reality.
Briefly hopped on dating apps after coming out of an eighteen-month relationship before deleting all of them and coming back to this video to set me straight. Thanks for all you do man, this is info every average guy needs.
Yes, I agree, we really need these videos shown to mostly every guy out there. I realized before these videos that to me it made sense, what decent girl would use dating apps because she could easily get dates in real life. I just stayed away from dating apps. These videos now just reinforced what I noticed.
This video is extremely accurate. I'm 6 foot tall and use to be in pretty good shape. Tinder and bumble were really kind to me when I was on there I use to get easy lays all the time. They weren't the most attractive women though. Mostly 6s and 7s with the occasional 8 thrown in there from time to time. The 9s and up were non existent, but I'm sure the top of the top were scoring with them. Was actually the reason I got off of dating apps. Much better looking options out in the wild than online. I'm out the game now tho. Got married and soon to be father, but what this man is saying is true. Dating apps are a waste.
yep...Dudes that are decent/good looking, in shape, but 5ft7--5ft9= (male 7), have to bang fat chicks=(female 3/4s),....And the 6 ft dudes run through the female 6s,7s.......
@@ricorogers9319 Yep seen it myself. 8/10 insanely hot Albanian chick? Yes her boyfriend is also a 6 foot 8/10 guy with a killer jawline, confidence and masculinity (possibly high status as well because from what I've seen from him, he's also popular).
I'm 6'4" and my physique is top notch (205 lbs 11% bodyfat). Women block me or delete me after seeing my face. Height or body does not really compensate for an ugly face. You gain much less leverage than someone with an avg or above avg face
Never used one - never will. If you are that desperate to be in a relationship, just get a new hobby and learn to love yourself. That other person will "rarely" give you completion. Look around at other relationships, especially in later years. The phrase domestic graveyard springs to mind.
Chad has fulfilling and meaningful relationships if he so chooses. Non chads have terrible relationships because they're NOT AN ATTRACTIVE MATING PROSPECT
I’m 28 5’11 no kids, my mom says im handsome (lol jk but im probably in the range of chadlite) I matched with this 34 mother of 3 just for something casual and she ghosted me. I was diving so far down into the dating pool and still getting rejected. That’s when I knew something was really wrong.Thank god for black pill
@@apolloniusbeitsman5444 i’m not going to sit here and say being chadlite isn’t better than normie/sub5 *BUT* i will say it has it’s own challenges. I can find an easy hookup sure. A wife? I’ve given up
@@BatmanBeyondBelief it's weird sometimes though. I'm 5'11/decent body/features and I see 5'5-5'7 dudes who are less attractive than me who have girlfriends.
@@mauriciomendoza3682 Short men who have girls friends are putting up with serious disrespect from those women in the background. Those men will put up with all types of disrespect just so they can walk around and say “yeah I have a girlfriend 🤓”
I'm 6'4", I model, Bodybuild and play sports and let me tell you, that dating apps aren't the way to go if you really want to find genuine relationships or stay confident in yourself. I've gotten hundreds of matches and asked them all what they want and most of the girls on there just want an ego boost, want to smash/hookup or just BS you. The amount of narcissists on there is wild so i deleted all those apps and found that staying focused on myself and my goals has made me more desirable to women in person and I've had alot more interactions with them just by staying focused on my success.
So accurate. If your not at least a 9/10 in looks or don't make 6 figures or more then your chances are slim to none. What I find crazier is a woman whos a 3 or even a 4 and overweight can get more matches than a guy that's a 7 so definitely stay off the apps and meet women in person.
This should be a class in High School. It would be one of the most useful classes. I am in my 50’s and luckily missed out on the modern online dating scene. I can tell you that your chances of finding someone go way up if you focus on improving yourself. Introduce yourself to women in the real world and be confident. Everything will work out.
That makes sense. A man has to earn his value, and a woman’s value is inherited. That’s why ours last forever once we obtain it and their options run out at 30 and up 💪🏽
I’m a middle age man who got into online dating in its infancy (early 2000s). Back then it was websites as there were not smartphones and apps. It was a little better back then but still not easy. I got a few dates from it but none of them ultimately worked out. To see how much more frustrating online dating has become since then makes me realize I never want to do it again. If it was bad back then, it’s far worse now.
It depends. I also used those apps from 1998, and never had much luck with them. Though I was bald by 22, so my story isn't of the average guy.. It was about looks back then also, just exacerbated nowadays. The only difference was women didn't get that they can always ride the carouselle, and really wanted to get married or male's income. I noticed such trends back then: twice the number of guys, always in chat groups. Today you can see some open groups in telegram for dating, and there are 99% of men begging for attention. Normal looking, ready to fulfil wishes, pay and kiss boots. That's where it gets ugly and evident, as on dating sites you don't see the number of messages women get. It's like a freaking never-ending fllood of proposals. When you see it openly, it really averts you from pursuing participating in such a derogatory competition, where your value is low, as you are the begger amongst hundreds a day.
I literally just have it for lols. 80 percent of my matches are ugly. I'll send em messages about how fucking ugly they are and you would not believe the self entitled messages I get😂
many women use dating apps, like single mothers or overweight women because they have so low value that no men wants to approach them. if they would have so much value, they would be gone from the dating market already.
Not always true. I have extremely hot friends who use online dating to find the highest status males they can find.. I did it as well. I’m pretty hot and I date a doctor. In real life I get approached but there are better odds online. My first 2 weeks on bumble I had 6,000 matches and I went through all of them to filter out the highest quality guys.. out of like 200 men I would only make it to a video chat with like 5, and go on a date with probably 1 or 2. Finally found a 6’2 doctor who is 35. But it took a while to filter through the BS. So the above is not true. Really hot girls use it to get the best guys.. and even use the out of the state mode for even more options. But like I said. This is for really attractive girls
@@catiena If youre shy then you probably wouldn't ask men out anyways. Unless you actually did ask them out then maybe you weren't their type or maybe there's some problem with the way you appear to men (perhaps you're aggressive or come on too strong etc)
I do have to admit I always considered myself as a 7/10 guy (I’m 24), as you called it in the “Above average guy” and I used Tinder. Since I used it I felt completely astonished that most of the times I realize the girls that usually swipe right on me (so that could be interested in me) are in the majority of the cases completely unattractive to me. It’s not that I don’t find them pretty enough, usually they are full of red flags or have unlikable behaviors, or simply we are on completely different pages (which can be normal). And when I match with one of those, it’s usually already a very good result if the conversation goes through the second message, because 90% it’s like you are asking them a favor just by talking to them. After all this said, it usually depends on the place you live and how your colture think you should behave as a man (in my case I’m italian, so I always have to message first, make the first move or ask out, otherwise they will never make a move on you). Let’s say I was able to get a date with just 3 girls in total after months of using Tinder
Bro you're one of my favourite UA-camr, the way you quantify everything to have a concrete analysis and understanding is spot on. This will allow tons on men to adapt to the current situation and avoid wasting time, energy, mental health and money.
We sometimes tend to forget that it is the fault of us men to begin with... Had we not thirsted and simped over any female creature in existence, this issue would have diminished long ago.
Agree completely. Thirsty men played a major part in ruining dating. Women get showered with compliments from simps so of course women are going to be overly picky.
@@Spoopy_man What I've learned is that dating apps are the greatest evil against men there is as there's no winning for any man really. From personal experience (more like my closer school mate's lol) meeting IRL can actually go somewhere. She just has to be attracted to you which is just a huge gamble and also rare to be fair, especially if you don't have the social skills yet and aren't looksmaxxing too, although he looks like a 3 or something and got a girl who I have not seen yet. Chemistry seems to be pretty good between them. Now to the complete opposite. In middle school some girl wanted to be my GF and I fucked it up in the most pathetic way possible. Oh well 🤷♂️
@@Spoopy_man I still wonder what is wrong with me on why I can't get a girlfriend I'm definitely not ugly as I've had multiple people say I'm fairly attractive.
This is quite true. I remember sitting next to a female friend while she was using tinder. We are talking about a 4, maybe a 5 on a good day. I was BAFFLED looking at the guys this girl was passing on like it was nothing. We are talking 7, 8 out of 10, good looking attractive guys. It rough out here guys, stay away from these apps
100% truth. I have a female friend who's a 4 and she complains that she can't find anyone on these apps, we have gotten into some heated arguments when I bring up that she's to picky and that her standards are to high...
She could have also been passing them by knowing she didn't stand a chance. I'd likely do the same if I was coming across 9s and 10s. Why waste the time.
I CAN MATCH WITH ANY MEN ON TINDER, PROBLEM IS I'M A MAN...I LIKE EVERYTHING I SEE, LIKE LIKE LIKE LIKE, I DONT TAKE MY TIME VIEWING PROFILES, THEN I LOOK AT MY INBOX, ALL DUDES SAYING HI., LOL
10 most important things for online dating for men: 1. Looks 2. Looks 3. Looks 4. Looks 5. Looks 6. Looks 7. Looks 8. Looks 9. Looks 10. Must be atleast 6 ft
No, intelligence, a sense of humor, a nice smile, thoughtfulness. Girls like that stuff way better than a stud muffin. No girl wants someone everyone is going to hit or crush on, trust me.
I think once women that are 6/10 or below realise after a few months the chad's they swipe yes on aren't choosing them then they get frustrated and swipe yes on guys they 'settle' to choose, that's why so many have an attitude because they are resentful that chad didn't choose them.
Nobody likes having to lower their standards. Those average chicks might have put out for a drunk/depressed Chad a few times and then thought that type of guy would be their baseline. It's like, no, you got used as a human fleshlight and the vast majority of guys in that range want nothing to do with women like you. Then, as you mentioned, when they start to accept reality and date guys closer to them on the looks scale there's that bitter resentment attitude problem. Manifests itself as demanding and judgemental, that "My time is limited and valuable, PROVE you're worth it to me" as if we should bow to them and do some dog and pony show to impress them and win their favor. And some guys will. It's disgusting the level of power imbalance and entitlement and uppity princess mindset with standards through the roof. They need to come down off their high horse and meet guys on an even level with mutual respect and fairness.
Yeah, dating apps are terrible. I got my heart broken by a 30 year old single mother, two kids, two different father's. She ghosted me. So I wasn't good enough in her eyes.
Same here. She was 33, 2 kids, 2 different fathers, but kids were in a different state so I didn't have to deal with them. She left because I wouldn't marry her. LOL.
Dating apps suck. I’m a very handsome guy, 6’0 & have a good job & even I struggle. I only get matches with mainly 5s & 6s & they flake 99% of the time. I’m taking a break from dating apps & focusing on my goals. I’d rather meet women in person.
Over 65 age male here. Wow. Am I glad I got out of the dating pool back in the '80s. Having watched a number of yours and others' videos, my eyes have been opened about dating app sites. Certainly for guys, the question would be, what is the alternative? I can see the attraction would be that there are the numbers of females on the apps, rather than having to do a lot more work in finding someone they would or could date. I can see how one could fall into the trap of looking at all the attractive women and thinking surely a few would be interested in dating a guy. The problem is just exacerbated because men are visual-oriented, and that can get them into trouble with a low-quality woman. But that's a topic for another video.
when I'm craving karma judgement, I'll know that the girl with 380+ ghosted tinder dates will end up all alone with no partner or kids eventually, I take a deep breath and thank the universe ☺️
Yeah, it really is true, lmao. Men actually get more value as they get older, and they can technically have kids at anytime/much later than women. These women have a huge ego but it's like they completely forget that the clock is ticking and the fun only goes for so long before they literally become useless to men if they aren't already with someone that actually loves them as a partner and a mother. At that point, they are thrown to the dust bin of life and it will be such a beautiful pain to witness these vapid, shallow bitches go through.
She will be one of the ‘Cougars’ at that local bar that gets pumped and DUMPED by younger guys who didn’t happen to land anything better that night. So she’ll be a cancellation prize ;) Then after doing that for a few years (Probably until late 40’s or at most early 50’s) she’ll join one of those stupid f**king women’s feminazi book store clubs and go “Do Brunch” with “The Girlzz” wearing those retarded purple hats making sure to mistreat male waiters.
I dated a girl like this for a brief amount of time, i met her in real life actually but yeah i dont see her getting married or having a successful marriage at that
We are currently dealing with dating apps, as we age, we will also have to deal with the consequences of heavy use of such apps. Identifying the broken females these apps leave in their wake.
… the latter is definitely smthg. I sincerily couldn’t care about less. The video shows who drove and benefits most from the current mess ever since, generally, and they’re doing all this voluntarily by their nature, for the promises advertised. So don’t count me in with your ‘we’ - thanks for nothing.
This video along with Better Bachelor's videos are the reason men are getting smarter and not playing these stupid games anymore. Men know their true value.
@@josealexi5141 well, now that I am more blackpilled than I was 1 month ago, I can certainly say that I was wrong. Men know their true value = cope. Basically women get to choose, not men. Sorry about that, life happens.
*SOME men across America and among many other W.E.I.R.D./"1st world" countries, regions, spheres of influence, cities, etc.....are starting to know and understand their true value(and much more). The majority in these respective contexts and environments are not though, let's not get it twisted.
BB views sometimes are a bit skewed with presentation but other topics of his are spot on. He's good at removing names of e-celebs or thot trash that he speaks about. Like Amuranth getting over 10k from her mod and dipped when it was revealed she was married.
@@josealexi5141 The Joket/Fsils for You truly rocks ! If I have a bad day, I watch a Joker or Fail for You video, its the same dude, and laugh myself to hysterics !
using dating apps also lowers your confidence. even girls that would have crush on you will reject you there cos it is fake af. so they boost their ego, get into princess mode and increase their standards and you lower yours cos you barely get dates with better than average look. = we lose asmen
@@Morra5472 100% and some of the guys do it too. so many youtubers say oh if you are CHAD you get all girls online but it is not true. most ppl I know start using these apps who are over 8/10, even they dont get matches. cos you need altered pictures of yourself, rich pictures, showoff as a good looking man too. you need professional photographer to build your FAKE profile :D also another issue about it is when you are 8/10 or over as a man and get attention in reallife alot but you go dating app with shitty profile, no likes no dates then you start question yourself. my suggestion do not use any dating apps which may heal woman! imagine we all stop using dating apps , woman will be deprived of attention then they realise they are not princessses... that would save the world!
I will admit it. 4 years ago I used to use POF to find girls for pump and dump. Unlike tinder you didn't need to match to talk to girls. I sort of had game and I went after girls that were either fat or that I felt had a promiscuous vibe. All the girls I hooked up with were emotionally unstable in one way or the other. Either way POF has changed now and the market is harder. I don't use dating apps anymore and have adjusted my preferences to be better
I slayed on there in 2018 myself. But eventually it seemed that most of the girls were obese single moms, or the random strung out addict. So I abandoned it. I've checked back in a time or two since and it still seems like trash. But much like you, the easy lays from POF that were also supplemented with tinder and in person hunting made me value sex so little that my standards have gotten insanely high. I'll do without for months before I actively try to fuck anything below a 7.5, and even that isn't appealing most of the time. I'd rather chase my hobbies.
You know what this split is reminiscent of: the income/wealth split in a capitalist country. Whether it's sex or money, it's the small haves vs the large have nots. And unlike with income issues, there's no social democracy when it comes to sexual access.
This is probably very true. My experience is literally overweight older women that are completely unattractive. I'm actually disgusted with the match results.
I'm sorry I really cant do it Even though im not attractive at all im not going to be a part of some girl's reverse harem that she just get emotional and ego gratification from while waiting patiently for chad to swoop in and smash. Dating is not for me and I think its one of those things I'm coming to terms with and that's okay. Good luck to all the guys that still want to play this weird game. Im done
Damn, #5 is extra brutal to me for some reason. It’s the complete opposite being an unattractive/average man on dating apps than being an unattractive woman. We’ve all known this for a while though.
Well I never used dating apps before. And after watching this video, my thoughts are unchanged! Nothing beats meeting someone face-to-face and traditionally.
The girl im with now i met in online dating. I want more abundance, which i can, but just the sheer amoung of work i felt i had to do was exhausting. This graph makes it all clear. I think im around top 60%-70% in the chart; cant imagine what other guys go through. Screw em all.
In my experience, dudes do this often. So I am more focused on being comfortable by myself, focus on hobbies/interests, and go out to public spaces after work. Meet random people.
I had success on dating apps but I deleted them because of the photo doctoring deception. Whamen are experts at photo manipulation. Almost every date I've had off of Tinder, the chick in person didn't look as good as her pics. They tend to post the pics back when they were in shape.
Tell me about it Screwed a land whale once I actually saw numerous photos of in ”flattering” camera angles making me convinced she was not so out of shape.
I don't find that to be a turn-off, since that is just expected.. I also look way better in my profile pics than I do in person, and I have to let my charismatic personality do its best to make up for it
I've had this problem too. I was talking to a girl on Tinder who looked cute in her Tinder pics, then I found her Facebook profile and discovered she was literally using pictures from 10 years ago on her Tinder. She's about 50-70 lbs heavier now.
Spot on about the comment that Asian women do not date Asian men. Their reasons are always nonsense. “They remind me of my brother.” Notice white women never say white men remind them of their brother. Worse yet, they all think they’re unique in their racist preferences despite it being widespread. Humans have a need to feel like they have autonomy in and uniqueness in their choice so this only exacerbates the problem.
I'm 6'5 and I clearly listed that in my profile, I have a nice face, blue eyes, clean cut in-shape guy. Not a model but definitely above average. Would say I'm in the top 20% maybe even top 10-15%. I struggled to find a quality woman on dating apps, I found plenty of average women to pump and dump, but when it came time to find an undamaged young woman without kids who I found attractive enough to pursue a relationship with, it was pretty much non existent. Imagine how bad it is for men who aren't 6'5 and aren't handsome. Guys you gotta get off these apps.
The real problem is focusing your life around women and making them an achievement instead of working on yourself. Type of men on dating apps are the ones who are throwing themselves at any women they see and decreasing their own value.
I agree with this video. I am not trying to boast or show off. I am an Asian guy who matches with almost 100% of Asian women that I swipe right on. I also get matches from Koreaboos and average-below average white women. Shows that if you're good looking you can even break the ethnic barrier. As a top 10% man I try my best to be shitty to all women on the app. You're welcome :)
You know what's messed up? The notification prompts you get on tinder like "there's a current swipe surge" or those encouraging notifications like " your only a swipe away" constantly, obviously for men we know it's not has easy to get a match but for girls it's like a game to girls it's actually crazy when I Deeps it
I agree with all of this. These are just the mathematical reasons. There is way more insidious shit going on with these apps. Woman just wanting validation, free meals, and the beat goes on. You’re better off approaching women in real life. If she rejects you then at least you can be safe in the knowledge that you had the courage to do what most men don’t anymore. Plus it sets you apart.
Unfortunately this is quite accurate and why stopped using dating apps. Im not a 9 or 10 in looks but in person, I’m attractive enough to date women who are - in real life and I have - but online I get treated average. I often find that despite getting hundreds of matches, most of them are mentally unstable, single mothers, old pictures, or loose women. And I always get the sense I’m in competition with other guys. Unless you’re ridiculously good looking or rich, tinder is a headache.
rich doesn't mean anything because women can have their own income and don't need to men to pay for them anymore. They get laid with men at higher looks even though they're married with rich people
In the 1980s, I joined a video based dating service. It was the same situation. I went thru the entire library of 250 women and the best was a rating 3. I thought it was Los Angeles was just bad for men but this is a world wide problem. In nightclubs and bars the ratio was 10 to 1.
@leobah After getting to 30, I dropped "looks" and "weight" from my criteria. Between 30 and 40 was my peak dating years in my life so I did everything possible. Work is now dominating my time nowadays so I gave up dating and looking. I am out of the target range for woman in my 50s.
@leobah I live in South Florida. It is difficult to find a woman that isn't seeing someone in this area. I am always on the lookout when I go to social gatherings (when I get a bite to eat) though. I try not get have any expectations.
@leobah Also in my 20's when I said the rating was 3. It was because I was 25 years old and out of the 250 women, most of them were over 40 and I saw at least 50 of them in their 60s. At 25, I had not had sex so I thought it would be better to date at my age or lower just because my experience was non-existent at 25. I was able to get a date with a woman with dirty black teeth that was a my age. But she didn't go on a third date and no chemistry. She was a rating of 3 because of her black teeth.
This is another reason why I don’t bother even trying anymore. I get some attention from women but it’s so few and far between and it always ends before it ever gets started and leaves me pissed off and resentful toward women. So at this point I just don’t even try anymore. It’s way too much effort for little to no payoff for my efforts.
@@princejiminofbusan9209 I think you need to understand the amount of time and attention that is being wasted of men these days. Even if a woman is giving a guy all the indicators of interest, a man in 2021 has no way to know if its real or if she just wants attention and validation. Deciphering this has forced many men to do a true cost benefit analysis, and question if courting women is worth it.
@@robertnewett5932 I agree to a point... i think most men come off incredibly fucking lame even when they meet women for dates which turns women off quickly... Regardless, it's 100% true that men have to do all the work and have a charismatic personality on dates while the woman can just sit back and do nothing and eat her free food
The black pill made me not angry whenever the girl I like likes the hotter dude because its outside of my control. Now I live for myself and stop trying to get game.
The height issue has gone to a point where it's literally depressing. And even if I was a tall guy, I would say the exact same thing. Now sorry guys, Im not american so I'm not familiar with the inches and feet thing, so I will keep it in centimeters. A girl that is 175 cm will give a guy that is 180 cm a chance. Then you'd assume that girls that are 165 cm would give guys at 170 a chance, the same height difference from previous example. But nope, your wrong. Even the girl at 165, even girls BELOW 165 has gotten obsessed by 6 feet (which is around 180 cm). It's like there was a switch which someone turned on and out of the blue, almost all girl got obsessed by the 6 feet number. EVEN if the guy would be SLIGHTLY under 6 feet, say 5'11 - Girls won't have it. They are more concerned of you living up to that number than your actuall personality. It's way more important for girls to say to their friends "look, I have a boyfriend that's 6 feet" than "I found a boyfriend thats really intelligent, sweet and funny". Men, leave fucking Tinder, read about stoicism and become your own alpha.
Yeah most woman don't care too much as long as you are taller than her That issue is only in USA Their bench mark is apparently 6ft3 And even the majority of men in their population isn't that tall I have never really find height being that big of a decisive factor Unless if i was shorter than the woman in question Which is a bit rare
I thought i was a total looser. I gave up on it about a year ago. I was just thinking of trying again, thanks for convincing me not to waste my confidence!
dont do it brother even as a chadlite my confidence is still below sea level , ive had women approach me; try to talk to me & i just cant do it simply because my low self esteem i avoid them like the plague & i dont think theres any fixing that
@@lotuswolf1518 where he stands apart from other similarly analytical dating content creators is that he’s asking the right questions and applying stats and data to the right places. He has an original mind, so he’s dissecting data in new ways that’s unexplored and this is giving us unique insights into the dating crisis we face in 2021.
I love that Wheat Waffles's channel is growing so much. I was here back when my guy was below 3k subs, and he was STILL pumping out fire content CONSISTENTLY. I'd love to see him talk with Face&LMS again.
She is right. If you want a woman, ignore any dating site. Dating sites went downhill around 2010 when it became a money industry. The match making system is bullshit, because 100% match means nothing if you have no chemistry in real life. Greetings with someone who been with same date last 15 years, and married for 12. We were wrong match according to dating site.. Yeah right.
Being on Tinder is like trying to find a date in a mental hospital.
That really is a good way to put it.
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That’s so bad💀
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90% Wonan wouldn’t date themselves if they were men.
thats a good insight
lol thats so true. A lot of them would be incels if they were male
Facts
What Waffles and Alexander Grace are youtube's bright spot for so many guys that are to waste their times chasing delusions.
Thats brooutal
Honestly dating apps absolutely annihilated my self-esteem. The constant ghosting, matching with next to no one, the "message you once and never speak to you again" people which is honestly in the same vein as people who just never initiate conversation or ever message you. Prompting you to ask why they still have you matched? Who knows! They for some reason won't ever delete you though!
Doing all the work in conversations, the conversation lives and dies with you, they put in no effort and don't try to keep it going and making subjects, asking questions about you n' all that.
I hate these stupid dating sites, and i've been trying to find a partner since college, i'm in my late twenties now and honestly i'm just so utterly bitter and resentful about it all. And the worse part is I don't even know how you're supposed to meet women irl. These days you're essentially labeled as a creep just for looking at or talking to a woman. It's truly unbelievable.
Everyone tells me to meet women at bars or whatever, but I don't drink and like, the type of people i'm interested in don't hang out at bars. Work's not the best place for that, and these days people at jobs don't even want to be friends or talk to you/acknowledge you outside of the job, let alone try to pursue dating.
I just don't know what the fu*k to do anymore in terms of relationships in general. It's like everyone expects you to put in all the work while they do nothing back. And people just overly valuing themselves.
Dude. There are places to meet people, that not necessarily means to aproach a woman at any moment (that’s is weird for anyone). For example, you can join an sport club (of one sport that forces you to interact with people), dance club, board games club, etc. You not only have to go to bars. But you have to push yourself to situations of socializing.
I would say focus on your weaknesses in life. For me i had everything going except one thing. I didn’t own a vehicle but was driving for nearly 8 years.
Now that i have a vehicle it’s like… different in an irritating way. It’s a nice truck too. 2016 chevy silverado 1500. Shiny white with black rims and a really expensive bedcover to match the rims.
Just do you man. Look at yourself in the mirror, assess your weaknesses and have fun challenging yourself to conquer them. Before you know it, you will notice how women approach you.
I would recommend you get on your life and forget about women. Do everything right for yourself. Just be sure to not have any approach anxiety. Some woman will look at you with nice eyes and you will take the chance.
For example I would concentrate in becoming an engineer, getting a nicer body, and Riding my motorcycle
R.l.P
My recommendation: understand your purpose & chase that, don’t sell your self short, because once you get the girl she must desire to be in your world (whatever that looks like). You must be in the gym, don’t need to be “jacked” but look like a man, be lean. Hire a life coach or dating coach.
It's true. I once made a false profile using a male model's pictures and the amount of matches I got was ridiculous. I could also be rude and sexist towards my matches and they were like "lol, God yes, more please". It was mind boggling
I deleted the app after two days. Never again.
😂😂 Wow, shows how shallow the women are on these sites.
@@layback76 I am sure she encountered single moms looking to seduce a man so she could have someone to help pay the bills.
Interesting case study.
@@JoesVinylShow1980 just google chad tinder experiement there is so much video where women beg to date them even if chad fake profile says he did bad things to kids and stuff like this
I don't even doubt this. It's basically fact that the worse you treat women, the more they want you.
Dating apps are the biggest joke going. 30 - 40 year old single mums who think they are flat 10 out of 10s and expect nothing less than a celebrity with looks money and status.
How n why are there so many single moms America and uk
I know there r many handsome men
But why can't they get married n then have kids
@@Traumatised311 Because they're promiscuous for the sake of being promiscuous. Right now is time in the US when being a traditional monogamous woman is being looked down upon and most western women under 50 think that's shameful and backwards. Feminism in the west means pushing boundaries as far as you can in the west. Any criticism or even debate about what a women's morals should or shouldn't be would be considered anti feminist in the US. I can't speak for the UK.
@@jesusnieves9221 but there's safe sex condoms
Pills birth controls etc
How come they're hooking up
Also women r also attracted to men n feel like hooking up
So don't think women don't wanna hookup
But women r picky n don't wanna fuck any man
@k j r 🙏🙏🙏🙏 Western countries r fucked
Luckily I am indian
This is true. On a whim to see what was out there I put my profile on Facebook dating. In a couple of weeks time, I had maybe two or three likes. All from out of shape unattractive women. I'm 41, no debt, reasonably good shape, attractive for my age, average height. Even the single mothers ignored me, lol. It's one giant joke. Honestly, most of these people deserve to be alone.
"Dating apps are a man's waste of time, and a women's ego boost." Brilliant quote. Love the brutal reality of your vids! Keep 'em coming!
I know 3 females (2 of them have kids and are divorced)... they are still in good shape but they have been single for years and even though they get "dates" they can't get a guy to commit. One of them (whos 27 and no kids) was single for 3 years, got a bf for a month and he dumped her.
This illusion that they have tons of choices has completely messed them up and they are all looking for men well above their SMV. They priced themselves out of the market completely and there will be many many single lonely females because they would rather stay single than date a guy thats on their level.
@@BillClinton228 Well who gives a shit, looks like it's their problem now.
@@BillClinton228
That's bullshit to say they cant get a guy to commit or have an illusion of choice. They do have an tons of choices, it's NOT an illusion. They take the conscious decision to not date/commit with a certains type men according to their standard.
They are not victim.
@@Ludo045 most men hitting up women just want to fuck and nothing else; some women are attracted to male whores aka "bad boys" and won't give the nice ones/men who want to marry and raise children a chance; many women say they don't want bad boys but are still very attracted to them and the adrenaline rushes they bring (and drugs). They got hangups. Men make the mistake of making the first move, acting awkward, way too desperate, and way too thirsty for fucking. WOMEN should make the first move; the reason, they decide which man they want anyways. Men can't hit on women anymore; if the woman isn't attracted to him (which will be the case most of the time), he'll be labeled a creep and/or perv, get scolded by the woman or ignored like he isn't even there, and/or "cock blocked" by a man/white knight in shining armor who will threaten to beat him up (to impress the woman). Besides half of our population is morbidly obese and not attractive; the few good, athletic-looking men and women are in HOT demand and get taken off the market FAST; prostitution is illegal in most locations in the US so these desperate, sex-deprived, mentally ill men can't get the therapy they need; they can't hire a hooker to quench their thirst and began acting like a normal man (a man that doesn't send dick pics to random women). If these fat, ugly desperate men could just fuck an attractive prostitute once in a while, but not procreate, that would eliminate all the thirsty, desperate men begging women for sex on dating sites. No need for dating sites if the women attracted to bad men can be a prostitute and make tons of money, or create an onlyfans website dedicated to SIMPS. A lot of women on dating sites don't know what kind of man they want; some aren't even ready for a relationship but are on there anyways. Dating sites suck for me because a romance scammer/fake, attractive person is always hitting me up. They instantly get reported and blocked.
Accurate. Even my middle aged, overweight, 2 out of 10 ex-wife had better luck finding someone smh
Great video. Another factor is their business mode is literally based on frustrating average guys into endless swiping and eventually paying for upgrades. It’s one of the few businesses that depends on providing a poor customer experience.
If tinder’s goal was actually to help people get dates they would place a limit on the number of matches a chad can have.
yo that last bit is a good idea, that would fix so many problems lol. Too bad that's never happening
Very good point
Yep, their business model is about selling inkwells the hopes/copes of getting Chad’s results. 🖐😂 It’s always the bottom getting 🍇d, business as usual. ☝️💀
@@GGWP-nx3kn ok but here's the idea, women make 80% of consumer choices, they make purchases way more easily than men. If chads can only have like 10 matches, women will buy anything to get their attention. And they can sell more match slots. So Tinder would actually make more money that way. Market to women, not the men.
@@WheatWaffles Wheat Waffles, this video of Tinder and online dating reminds me of this 2016 video of this guy who is wondering why he isnt getting matches on tinder. He even created two accounts. The comments are hilarious on that video. Here is the link: ua-cam.com/video/6_J8dHLe1Vc/v-deo.html
Another reason not to use dating apps: cold-hearted and mean-spirited women will screenshot your unattractive photos and send them to their friends and post them on the Internet for sick kicks. I've seen it happen. It's awful.
it's so fucking real. i feel so bad for all the guys whose photos and\or messages were mocked by women just because they don't consider unattractive men as human beings with feelings.
I've HAD it happen to me. It is indeed awful.
I am gonna stick to meeting babes in face-to-face interactions
I am gonna stick to meeting babes in face-to-face interactions
@@LetsGoChaseThatTrainI am gonna stick to meeting babes in face-to-face interactions
when something is free, you're the product.
Well it’s not really free, you can pay for upgrades
Even if you're paying, you're still the product. Especially as they're selling and sharing your data...
answer me.. the best solution is educated women from childwood the values of life , and valuate more the personality of a men, and accept men(ugly, average, handsome) without toxic rules imposed by society. That would make more balance in dating opportunities between ugly and handsome men.. What do you think guys? this isn't a good idea? Please answer me if you dont mind
The Lemon 🍋🚗 🍋 lot of sociopathic media...
Girls are insane nowdays
Reason Number 6 from personal experience: The constant rejection and ghosting will have you question your value as man and lead to a deterioration of your SMV as you doubt yourself and straight up depression.
The air and women are fresher outside, get out there.
For sure, that's how I ended up here thought I was an 8 but after matching with whales for months I was like oh shit am I a 4
@Randall Swanson what is your comment supposed to achieve?
@Randall Swanson Dunno man, I think the reason that I didn't get your humor is because english isn't my first laguage. The last sentence of your first comment just sounds passive agressive/dismissive but I might be reading that into that message, so sorry if that wasn't the case.
@Randall Swanson NVW man I had to read the first 2 commts again. Now I get what you mean my bad.
@Randall Swanson Germany. Tbh I can't answer that question that easily. I just like to watch these videos since I'm probably gonna be something similar to a psychologist, so I try to broaden my horizon looking at different viewpoints. The thing is I life in a rural and conservative area so online dating isn't that big here. I've seen some woman go absolutely bonkers over a friend of mine (he looks almost exactly like Sean O Pry). So I'd say looks obviously matter.
When looking at the red pill I think some people don't really understand what they are talking about. first of all we need to look at how Emotions work. A lot of people simply don't understand that you can't create emotions in other people. Emotions aren't uncotrollable reactions at all. The only person who can create Emotions is you yourself.
Heres how sexual attraction works:
Men: Since outside things can't "trigger" emotions you have to create them somehow. Obviously if I see a woman I need to decide whether or not I find her attractive. If I decide that she's attractive thats what allows me the feel attraction. I thinks its also a logical conclusion to say that the sexual attraction is gonna be more intense the more attractive she is.
I need to use a really weird metaphor I learned a while ago here, but think it'll make sense when I'm talking about womans sexual attraction. When a man masturbates he's obviously gonna try to maximize the intensity of the emotion. Looks play a major role, but I doubt a lot of men imagine a assertive masculine woman during that, because thats a huge turn off. Most will obviously think about a submissive and attractive woman.
So the biggest emotional load comes from Looks + feminine personality traits
The same thing has to be true for woman. They need to create an emotional load somehow. So they're obviously gonna imagine a really attractive guy, but also a dominant one. They're not gonna imagine a crying annd scared wimp.
And imo that's where this whole be confident thing comes from. Personality plays a role but for a woman to feel sexual attraction for you being confindent is like the minimum requirement - just like looks for men.
for woman it's also a combination of looks + mascuiline personality traits.
All girls I know told me they just use Tinder to laugh at men.
Yes this is absolutely true!
I have heard this a lot too. It’s probably a lie, they are actually there for validation, and they try to laugh that off.
Lmao. BRUTAL, don’t ever jestermaxxx on dating apps even if your a chad.
@@hedark1135 Laughing at subfives is a form of validation for them
Ofc they use Tinder to laugh at men yOu KnOw IrOnIcAlLy duhh..
unless the chad shows up.
Another scam is the fact that the apps deliberately boost mens ego. They give you many likes at first when you dont have gold and this plays on your curiosity to find out who liked you. Si you pay for it and find out. After you do that, you get 0 i mean 0 new likes or matches. A scam from the start, i absolutely hate the wickedness of Tinder
The intro of the 3/10 landwhale was BRUTAL!
@@rudy1999 lol ur part of the problem, how on earth is she a Stacylite after weight loss?
@@rudy1999 Its not attractive either. Again , men overrating women while women underrate men.
Landwhale 😂
She’s currently a 2 and she would be a 3 if she wasn’t obese.
She has high smv
Reason No 6: many women on dating apps are Not actually looking forward to go for a date. Just killin' time.
@JustAGuy InBensalem True marriage/relationships don't mean anything nowadays. I remember being with a woman who soon after we stopped having sex got married lmao. Which means she probably already knew the dude/had a serious relationship with him and I didn't know quack. Hope he escapes though.
Seeking validation and approval from men because they toxic and can't get it in real life.
@Jay Native You know they might be saying that they have a boyfriend when they are Not interested in someone. But still, many of them are totally not interested in meeting somebody in person. They just want to upload photos, write some short messages and get attention - receiving praise and compliments online. This is the worst about dating apps - many women want things to stay online, they do not want it to have impact on real life.
answer me.. the best solution is educated women from childwood the values of life , and valuate more the personality of a men, and accept men(ugly, average, handsome) without toxic rules imposed by society. That would make more balance in dating opportunities between ugly and handsome men.. What do you think guys? this isn't a good idea? Please answer me if you dont mind
@@jasonwilliams3095 Women view relations with men in transactional way. So it is all based on supply and demand in their minds. Internet created false demand as many men are willing to date down in terms of looks. When those women realize that those high quality men are NOT willing to get into relationships with them but are interested ONLY in short term hook -ups they lower down their expectations with time. This "woman is the prize" culture is everywhere in the XXIst century (unless we speak about exotic places like Afghanistan under the Taliban) so it will be very hard to completely change this. However your best option would be to look for a religious woman as religions (Catholic, Orthodox, Protestant, Sunni, Shia no matter which one) come from a more male oriented culture so it balances things up in the upbringing process of those girls.
Tried the dating apps. They completely destroyed my self esteem
If you look good, you don't need a dating app.
@@freeman405 As if a healthy relationship depends on looks.
@@danielengel4593 It starts on looks.
@@freeman405 True.
Why?
I get attractive girls matching with me every day, the problem is once you say hi they never respond. They say they want a guy who's "not boring" but Jesus can't they at least get past "hello" before they start judging you're character? Lots of hookers on those apps too.
“Hi” is the worst opening ever.
@@ИльяЗаболотный-е5мYou know a better opening? I'm all ears if you do.
I'm a woman and I get that too. I try to not be boring during introduction but men just cut off my chat. People say don't judge but in dating most people are all time judgemental for unnecessary things.
@@khawlahazwar7475 It’s much more easier for women.
Just get an attractive photos and then you can do literally nothing.
Those are called bots buddy
One of the saddest things about OLD is that some of the women you see married today admit me that if they had access to Tinder when they were younger, their husband wouldn't stand a chance.
hopefully their husbands don't know. living with the thought that your wife settled for you as the consolation price is terrible. maybe they should relieve their wives of the terrible burden of being with them :D
Why would they tell you though. Has hypergami gone that rampant and out of control?
@@erikjohansson6579 It's simple. Generally women don't want to be judged and criticized for anything. Doing that causes them to back off. You also cannot talk to them in a hostile fashion. They'll either laugh at you or think you're a threat. If you talk to them casually, they can be honest.
@@erikjohansson6579 Basically yes. It's gotten to the point where they tell on themselves. Look at the girl in the tiktok opening this video. She blatantly says "I have an absolute shit personality and deep issues and don't plan on doing anything about it" and posts it online for everyone to see. They literally think they can do no wrong. They don't have shame anymore.
@@CaptainObvious0000 Thats what I did ...
You missed one:
6. Fake profiles. Many apps host profiles that have been created from profiles on _other_ apps that they own. For example, one company owns both app A and app B. A female user creates a profile on app A, which she uses. The company that owns both apps has fine print that she has agreed to, which allows them to use her profile info on app A to make _another_ profile for her on app B. She does _not_ use app B, so it is essentially a fake profile.
Mindblowing if true.
@@JL-lu1ul Yes. Read the user agreements, terms of service, etc. The things that no one ever reads. It's all in there.
This is absolutely true, I've seen bait profiles all the time
Yeah, "All" the matches i got never responded or instantly removed me no matter what i said. I was 100% sure fake profiles were a thing
And the more fake profiles the company adds, the more it makes men want to be buy premium after they get no matches. Smart motherfuckers I'll give em that.
I litterally deleted all my datting apps after looking at this video. This man is right, even being decently attractive the quality of women fall far below the expected value you would have for them(which aint super high). Many time i landed on a good looking girl but she had serious issues or was just crazy. The logestics is not worth it over time and will make you depress, miserable and question yourself. This man speaks facts and these dating apps know this shit and cotinue to capitalize off our suffering as if they are playing god with our emotions. Its hella fucked up...
Damn....Ima be alone forever....
@@F3L3453 you think that but someone will reckonoze your worth and it will be worth the wait. We all in the same boat but we must keep being our best selves, regaurdless of the odds because one day they will be in our favor😂
@@johnevans5818 unfortunately not everyone gets a happy ending, love isn’t real
@@DeadRatStew goddamnit you have to have the anikin skywalker name and pic😂😂. But in all seriousness, i understand how you feel, all to well might i add. Its almost like you have a chain attached to your leg with a weight around it that represents the pain and lost hope you carry. Its there to supress your happniess and love for yourself. The moment you break that chain and let go love will come from places you never expect it. However these dating apps are going to far lol. Makin a brotha depressed and shit😂😂
@gab hug tbh, ive taken all sorts of apporaches. But recently was the online thing. But ppl say its best to meet in person than online. Its like when ypu choose someone online you dont know what that person is gonna be like because there are a few factors missing which are important ones lol
he is right about the quality of the women.... 90-95% are complete clowns, time wasters, and only wanting attention. Any decent girl on a dating site finds a guy fast and gets off dating apps real fast. some of those attention seeking women have been on the sites for years.
yep get off and don't come back
We need a movement for men getting off dating sights. This would end a lot of this
I agree we need to get rid of them all so we all get a decent date
All social media. Biggest tools on IG and OF.
I agree but that most likely will never happen
First Porn, then OnlyFans...then dating apps
I've already stayed off
11 minutes of brutality
Brooootal
The very first seconds were already gigabrutal
@John looks matter but the guy in your video seems desperate
The worst part is that before Tinder, online dating was like this yet not exposed as such a horrible option for men. Don't do it....
* Dont if you are under 15-20%
I think tinder can be used to motivate you. Romantic relationships are also about communication and caring. I have found the most rewarding parts of being in a relationship is being able to care for someone and help them emotionally and with small chores.
To me it is far more rewarding than sex to help. Especially when they are more relaxed around you and appreciate the extra work you do for them.
Although I do not pay their bills.
its funny how that first girl is bragging when she's overweight despite being in a gym...
@John what the fuck did you just write
Before ig became what it is now you could pull some hot chick's lol. It's all fucked up now
That goes for Clubs and Bars as well..
They're a Man's waste of time, and an
Ego-Boost for women..
Real Talk!!
Yeah I just go bars to drink, if I’m drinking and someone starts talking to me I just tell them to fu*k off
Then where to look for?
Another important reason is scammers. For example: a "girl" invites you to a theater show (and leads you to a phishing site). Or a real girl takes you to a very expensive place where you invite her (and she has some deal with the owners). I am sure there are a lot of scammers out there, given how desperate guys are.
Lots of guys get beaten up and robbed too.
Im working for a site where Man pay 1,99 Euro for 1 coin
What can you do with 1 coin?
Sending a fake girl 1 massage wich gets anwsered by a moderator so jeha most Man a pretty dumb 2 be Honest
Don't forget all the gals looking for validation, ego boosting, having a bad day and need to reinforce their conviction that they're not that ugly (after being rejected by some chad IRL for ex) or looking for instagram subs or just simps to pay her dinner....
answer me.. the best solution is educated women from childwood the values of life , and valuate more the personality of a men, and accept men(ugly, average, handsome) without toxic rules imposed by society. That would make more balance in dating opportunities between ugly and handsome men.. What do you think guys? this isn't a good idea? Please answer me if you dont mind
The entitlement thing is real, I was dating this girl and her sister was showing me guys she thought were too ugly on tinder, and they were leagues better looking than the men that I've seen her date many times.
How does that make sense tho..?
@@andrewevans6826 because women think they are amazing with all.the matches
Is that entitlement? I always thought they were just mental.
answer me.. the best solution is educated women from childwood the values of life , and valuate more the personality of a men, and accept men(ugly, average, handsome) without toxic rules imposed by society. That would make more balance in dating opportunities between ugly and handsome men.. What do you think guys? this isn't a good idea? Please answer me if you dont mind
Makes perfekt sense, if every women get 100 matchens a week.
Then its a job going through them all, so ofc they only look at the picture.
In fact unfollow evey girl on social media who’s not someone you’re dealing with. Just do it guys
better if just delete social media or only use for your inner circle of friends
@@wellingtonrodrigues7654 yeah that too but they’ll feel it more when they see their followers go down.
All of this is true. Average or below average girls meet above average guys on these apps. And it always ends up that these guys just use these girls for a short period and for a roll in the hay. Then these girls end up hating Tinder and hating dating in general. They never realize how unrealistic they are. Average women should be interested in average men. Also, only 14% of men in the USA are 6 feet or taller and only 6% of men are 6 foot 2 or taller.....not good odds.
When I was in my late teens, 20's and even 30's these dating apps had not come in to existence.
For that I am truly grateful.
It's really not bad at all if you're decent-looking with a likable personality and have a good career though. Every man should have a good career with a likable personality if they truly want a girlfriend and the best chance at having a healthy relationship. Probably 85%+ of men on dating apps don't meet these 2 minimum requirements which aren't expressed in this video
Are you 60 now because these apps/sites have been around for nearly 30 years now?
@@igipop14
Well deduced.
@@michaelangst6078 What's you're limit for a girls number?
it's measure if they sill have a heart.
answer me.. the best solution is educated women from childwood the values of life , and valuate more the personality of a men, and accept men(ugly, average, handsome) without toxic rules imposed by society. That would make more balance in dating opportunities between ugly and handsome men.. What do you think guys? this isn't a good idea? Please answer me if you dont mind
It’s true. Online dating only works for women. Even chad will have much better results cold approaching.
I'm a CHad, Did some modeling etc. It's still hard and getting harder.
Projection, Chad has it on autopilot. There be levels to this m8. Just because it’s hard for most of us doesn’t make it hard for all of us.
@@ProjectLDV Chad gets girls without even trying
@@scottmoering9810 That's exactly how human sexuality works. Keep it hard. Pheromones man, pheromones.
@@ProjectLDV I know I said he would have BETTER results off of dating apps. Not that he isn’t successful.
Also at least until recently tinder rated its users with the elo rating system. A rating system that is used in games like chess. When you encounter a profile you can imagine it as a chess game, if you like it but it doesn't like you you lose rating points according to its rating. If it's a match and it's a high rated profile you gain rating points. If it likes you and you reject it it loses rating points.
Do you play chess..?
@John he is generalizing you can not use one instance or 10 or 100 to conclude anything
@John not if you're being scientific about it
@John not reading all that but you're correct that women don't care about looks. They care about confidence and resources
@@tvbuu As far as physical attraction goes, they care about looks the most. They care about resources too because they want to have it easy, but they'll never truly desire the guy with resources but no looks. They will marry him, but still fantasize and/or cheat with the handsome tall guy, even if he's a loser deadbeat. They'll even try to have the child of the guy with good genes and have the hardworking guy with resources raise it, whether it's becoming a single mom and then finding a provider, or simply cheating and passing up the child as her husband's.
Unfortunately, after college it's really the only way to meet women if you don't have a large circle of people you know. Unless you want to date someone you work with, which I don't think is advisable.
I don't always agree with your content, but this video is spot on. I'm living proof. I'd consider myself average, and received a whopping 5 cold messages this whole year. And that's a record. Last year I did a catfish experiment with a Chad profile and I got 100 notification in a week.
what city are you in? This plays a big part
@@scottmoering9810 London UK. It's brutal out here. Just gotten worse.
@@eon001 yes I've heard it's brutal. Any anglosphere country is hard ASF
@@scottmoering9810 yea. It's a pattern in big cities. Too much choice.
this is same here where I live, brazil....
Long story short. Don't use Tinder and never date a girl who has experienced tinder, clear and simple. Thank you for the video
Among all the Bp channels, this one is the best. Not only because of the brutality, but because it also spreads the awareness among men, something makes you satisfied being a blackpiller
don’t label yourself as a blackpiller or any ideology, simply observe the ideas from a rational perspective, listen to every side and always challenge and criticize your own beliefs. No one of us is unbiased.
@@bobbadman1551 there is no such thing as an unbiased view or a rational perspective. That itself is again a frame. You can not escape having an ideology
@@aldoushuxley5953 Ideologies mean that you are 100% of a certain worldview and beliefsystem without being willing to change it over time after looking from other perspectives. Someone who believes 100% in the Blackpill is deluded. Someone who believes 100% in Redpill is deluded, too. I know both sides very well, had also a lot of experience in cold approach pickup, i‘m not saying that everything i believe at this moment is true, but i can tell you both worldviews and interpretation of their „scientific evidence“ are heavily flawed in reality.
@@bobbadman1551 If you believe 50% red pill 50% black pill, that again is a new ideology, you just have not given it a name.
@@aldoushuxley5953 No it’s not an ideology coz i don’t say „I know the truth and will never change my mind”
Briefly hopped on dating apps after coming out of an eighteen-month relationship before deleting all of them and coming back to this video to set me straight. Thanks for all you do man, this is info every average guy needs.
Yes, I agree, we really need these videos shown to mostly every guy out there. I realized before these videos that to me it made sense, what decent girl would use dating apps because she could easily get dates in real life. I just stayed away from dating apps. These videos now just reinforced what I noticed.
This video is extremely accurate. I'm 6 foot tall and use to be in pretty good shape. Tinder and bumble were really kind to me when I was on there I use to get easy lays all the time. They weren't the most attractive women though. Mostly 6s and 7s with the occasional 8 thrown in there from time to time. The 9s and up were non existent, but I'm sure the top of the top were scoring with them. Was actually the reason I got off of dating apps. Much better looking options out in the wild than online. I'm out the game now tho. Got married and soon to be father, but what this man is saying is true. Dating apps are a waste.
yep...Dudes that are decent/good looking, in shape, but 5ft7--5ft9= (male 7), have to bang fat chicks=(female 3/4s),....And the 6 ft dudes run through the female 6s,7s.......
@@ricorogers9319 Yep seen it myself. 8/10 insanely hot Albanian chick? Yes her boyfriend is also a 6 foot 8/10 guy with a killer jawline, confidence and masculinity (possibly high status as well because from what I've seen from him, he's also popular).
They are all Beckies and Stacies to me; Saint Hamudi. 😣
I'm 6'4" and my physique is top notch (205 lbs 11% bodyfat). Women block me or delete me after seeing my face. Height or body does not really compensate for an ugly face. You gain much less leverage than someone with an avg or above avg face
i dont have any other option unfortunately so im doomed...
Never used one - never will.
If you are that desperate to be in a relationship, just get a new hobby and learn to love yourself.
That other person will "rarely" give you completion.
Look around at other relationships, especially in later years.
The phrase domestic graveyard springs to mind.
Chad has fulfilling and meaningful relationships if he so chooses. Non chads have terrible relationships because they're NOT AN ATTRACTIVE MATING PROSPECT
Better to have loved and lost than never to loved at all.
Relationships? Apps are for getting laid. A relationship might be a nice extra if you find someone highly compatible
Bullshit
John you post the same stupid shit everywhere. Take a break please
I’m 28 5’11 no kids, my mom says im handsome (lol jk but im probably in the range of chadlite) I matched with this 34 mother of 3 just for something casual and she ghosted me. I was diving so far down into the dating pool and still getting rejected. That’s when I knew something was really wrong.Thank god for black pill
Chadlite? Lucky you!
@@apolloniusbeitsman5444 i’m not going to sit here and say being chadlite isn’t better than normie/sub5 *BUT* i will say it has it’s own challenges. I can find an easy hookup sure. A wife? I’ve given up
@@BatmanBeyondBelief it's weird sometimes though. I'm 5'11/decent body/features and I see 5'5-5'7 dudes who are less attractive than me who have girlfriends.
@@BatmanBeyondBelief the downside for chads is the powder in their drinks, and in the morning they got a new permanent desease
@@mauriciomendoza3682
Short men who have girls friends are putting up with serious disrespect from those women in the background.
Those men will put up with all types of disrespect just so they can walk around and say “yeah I have a girlfriend 🤓”
I'm 6'4", I model, Bodybuild and play sports and let me tell you, that dating apps aren't the way to go if you really want to find genuine relationships or stay confident in yourself. I've gotten hundreds of matches and asked them all what they want and most of the girls on there just want an ego boost, want to smash/hookup or just BS you.
The amount of narcissists on there is wild so i deleted all those apps and found that staying focused on myself and my goals has made me more desirable to women in person and I've had alot more interactions with them just by staying focused on my success.
@OUTCLASSER Support Team sure
@OUTCLASSER Support Team Click his home page. His body is amazing!!
@@The_World_Champion.Bit ghey...
So accurate. If your not at least a 9/10 in looks or don't make 6 figures or more then your chances are slim to none. What I find crazier is a woman whos a 3 or even a 4 and overweight can get more matches than a guy that's a 7 so definitely stay off the apps and meet women in person.
I think the girl in the video clip is a 5
She can lose weight n get more guys
@@lotuswolf1518 4 at the very best.
This should be a class in High School. It would be one of the most useful classes. I am in my 50’s and luckily missed out on the modern online dating scene. I can tell you that your chances of finding someone go way up if you focus on improving yourself. Introduce yourself to women in the real world and be confident. Everything will work out.
exactly
You're more likely to find someone outside of western countries. Western women are toxic.
That makes sense. A man has to earn his value, and a woman’s value is inherited. That’s why ours last forever once we obtain it and their options run out at 30 and up 💪🏽
If you fake confidence though, then she will eventually learn who the real you is. Being anything but yourself won't work.
@@ninezerotwo1778 confidence is earned through achievement.
I was on Tinder and I couldn't even get a girl who looked like a fat frog. And I was trying too. She was a 1
🤣 lmao a fat frog 🐸
I can't relate
But that was funny 😄
😂😂😂wtf
It's over
Yeah, that's the thing about tinder. Even girls who look like fat frogs are only interested in Chads.
Bruh 😂
I’m a middle age man who got into online dating in its infancy (early 2000s). Back then it was websites as there were not smartphones and apps. It was a little better back then but still not easy. I got a few dates from it but none of them ultimately worked out. To see how much more frustrating online dating has become since then makes me realize I never want to do it again. If it was bad back then, it’s far worse now.
It depends. I also used those apps from 1998, and never had much luck with them. Though I was bald by 22, so my story isn't of the average guy.. It was about looks back then also, just exacerbated nowadays. The only difference was women didn't get that they can always ride the carouselle, and really wanted to get married or male's income.
I noticed such trends back then: twice the number of guys, always in chat groups. Today you can see some open groups in telegram for dating, and there are 99% of men begging for attention. Normal looking, ready to fulfil wishes, pay and kiss boots. That's where it gets ugly and evident, as on dating sites you don't see the number of messages women get. It's like a freaking never-ending fllood of proposals. When you see it openly, it really averts you from pursuing participating in such a derogatory competition, where your value is low, as you are the begger amongst hundreds a day.
Back then was a lot better. I was on Yahoo personals and did well. This was back before cell phones and we still had dial up. Totally different now
I sign back up for Tinder every now and then to remind myself that it's a waste of time 🤣
Sounds like desperate rationalizing to me
Keep saying that to yourself bro
I literally just have it for lols. 80 percent of my matches are ugly. I'll send em messages about how fucking ugly they are and you would not believe the self entitled messages I get😂
@@mrwhips3623 lmao 🤣 this comment is hilarious
@@mrwhips3623 hahahha thats hilarious
Don't be hard on yourself, the number of Nigerian love scammers pretending be hot women on dating apps is also a factor..
🤣🤣
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Very true, in my area 75% of tinder is bots and scammers, not even real profiles.
Baiting them is the *one* good reason to use Tinder.
😂😂😂
many women use dating apps, like single mothers or overweight women because they have so low value that no men wants to approach them. if they would have so much value, they would be gone from the dating market already.
Not always true. I have extremely hot friends who use online dating to find the highest status males they can find.. I did it as well. I’m pretty hot and I date a doctor. In real life I get approached but there are better odds online. My first 2 weeks on bumble I had 6,000 matches and I went through all of them to filter out the highest quality guys.. out of like 200 men I would only make it to a video chat with like 5, and go on a date with probably 1 or 2. Finally found a 6’2 doctor who is 35. But it took a while to filter through the BS. So the above is not true. Really hot girls use it to get the best guys.. and even use the out of the state mode for even more options. But like I said. This is for really attractive girls
im not fat or a mom but men still reject me im normal shy
@@catiena If youre shy then you probably wouldn't ask men out anyways. Unless you actually did ask them out then maybe you weren't their type or maybe there's some problem with the way you appear to men (perhaps you're aggressive or come on too strong etc)
@@hamazing913 im not aggressive im shy and quiet
@@catiena Im just making an example, it could be some problem that could most probably be fixed. I don't know you so you should try to see it yourself
I do have to admit I always considered myself as a 7/10 guy (I’m 24), as you called it in the “Above average guy” and I used Tinder. Since I used it I felt completely astonished that most of the times I realize the girls that usually swipe right on me (so that could be interested in me) are in the majority of the cases completely unattractive to me. It’s not that I don’t find them pretty enough, usually they are full of red flags or have unlikable behaviors, or simply we are on completely different pages (which can be normal). And when I match with one of those, it’s usually already a very good result if the conversation goes through the second message, because 90% it’s like you are asking them a favor just by talking to them. After all this said, it usually depends on the place you live and how your colture think you should behave as a man (in my case I’m italian, so I always have to message first, make the first move or ask out, otherwise they will never make a move on you). Let’s say I was able to get a date with just 3 girls in total after months of using Tinder
That is why I’m no longer in the game. I’m winning. Single and happy. Staying that way too.
Bro you're one of my favourite UA-camr, the way you quantify everything to have a concrete analysis and understanding is spot on.
This will allow tons on men to adapt to the current situation and avoid wasting time, energy, mental health and money.
That's not even the bottom of the barrel , that is somewhere in the sewer system we're getting to choose from !
you're in the sewer
@@catiena yeah, just me and the rest of the rats and politicians.
@@markfindlay8636 im below the sewer im in limbo
We sometimes tend to forget that it is the fault of us men to begin with...
Had we not thirsted and simped over any female creature in existence, this issue would have diminished long ago.
That's what I am saying for decades
Spot on.
Agree completely. Thirsty men played a major part in ruining dating. Women get showered with compliments from simps so of course women are going to be overly picky.
I believe Face and LMS said it best juggernaut law
As a 47 year old man who’s never had a girlfriend nor the prospect of one… this video is ….THE TRUTH.
Damm i'm like you but im 21 and i feel like shit.
@@Spoopy_man What I've learned is that dating apps are the greatest evil against men there is as there's no winning for any man really.
From personal experience (more like my closer school mate's lol) meeting IRL can actually go somewhere. She just has to be attracted to you which is just a huge gamble and also rare to be fair, especially if you don't have the social skills yet and aren't looksmaxxing too, although he looks like a 3 or something and got a girl who I have not seen yet. Chemistry seems to be pretty good between them. Now to the complete opposite. In middle school some girl wanted to be my GF and I fucked it up in the most pathetic way possible. Oh well 🤷♂️
Why? You need to get out more
@@blacklyfe5543 not everyone wants the noise of birds
@@Spoopy_man I still wonder what is wrong with me on why I can't get a girlfriend I'm definitely not ugly as I've had multiple people say I'm fairly attractive.
This is quite true. I remember sitting next to a female friend while she was using tinder. We are talking about a 4, maybe a 5 on a good day.
I was BAFFLED looking at the guys this girl was passing on like it was nothing. We are talking 7, 8 out of 10, good looking attractive guys.
It rough out here guys, stay away from these apps
100% truth. I have a female friend who's a 4 and she complains that she can't find anyone on these apps, we have gotten into some heated arguments when I bring up that she's to picky and that her standards are to high...
@@chriskelly509 I believe that the reason for this is that humans have never had this abundance of potential partners availablity
@Joel Martín Domínguez 100%correct. Wayyyy to many options.
She could have also been passing them by knowing she didn't stand a chance. I'd likely do the same if I was coming across 9s and 10s. Why waste the time.
I CAN MATCH WITH ANY MEN ON TINDER, PROBLEM IS I'M A MAN...I LIKE EVERYTHING I SEE, LIKE LIKE LIKE LIKE, I DONT TAKE MY TIME VIEWING PROFILES, THEN I LOOK AT MY INBOX, ALL DUDES SAYING HI., LOL
10 most important things for online dating for men:
1. Looks 2. Looks
3. Looks 4. Looks
5. Looks 6. Looks
7. Looks 8. Looks
9. Looks 10. Must be atleast 6 ft
couldn’t stress to emphasize that this is absolutely true. Looks are completely everything.
That’s the problem with dating apps, the only criteria is looks.
@@andreidanilov9925 IRL too. Understand that most guys on dating ( under 8/10 ) lack extraversion or a higher status social circle too....
No, intelligence, a sense of humor, a nice smile, thoughtfulness. Girls like that stuff way better than a stud muffin. No girl wants someone everyone is going to hit or crush on, trust me.
I think once women that are 6/10 or below realise after a few months the chad's they swipe yes on aren't choosing them then they get frustrated and swipe yes on guys they 'settle' to choose, that's why so many have an attitude because they are resentful that chad didn't choose them.
Nobody likes having to lower their standards. Those average chicks might have put out for a drunk/depressed Chad a few times and then thought that type of guy would be their baseline. It's like, no, you got used as a human fleshlight and the vast majority of guys in that range want nothing to do with women like you. Then, as you mentioned, when they start to accept reality and date guys closer to them on the looks scale there's that bitter resentment attitude problem.
Manifests itself as demanding and judgemental, that "My time is limited and valuable, PROVE you're worth it to me" as if we should bow to them and do some dog and pony show to impress them and win their favor. And some guys will. It's disgusting the level of power imbalance and entitlement and uppity princess mindset with standards through the roof. They need to come down off their high horse and meet guys on an even level with mutual respect and fairness.
Yeah, it's tragic. Chad has so much on his plate that he can afford to refuse whomever he pleases and still have more women just waiting in tow...
Facts !!
Yeah, dating apps are terrible. I got my heart broken by a 30 year old single mother, two kids, two different father's. She ghosted me.
So I wasn't good enough in her eyes.
keep your head up king, u dont wanne date single moms anyways. she gonne use your money
Single mothers deserve nothing but a pump and dump
Same here. She was 33, 2 kids, 2 different fathers, but kids were in a different state so I didn't have to deal with them.
She left because I wouldn't marry her. LOL.
@@ralphemerson497 Was it her age as well that's a bad factor?
@John Alastair Brutal
Dating apps suck. I’m a very handsome guy, 6’0 & have a good job & even I struggle. I only get matches with mainly 5s & 6s & they flake 99% of the time. I’m taking a break from dating apps & focusing on my goals. I’d rather meet women in person.
"Asian woman won't swipe right on Asian men" ain't that the truth... I'm now just waiting for a robot sex doll to be invented.
the problem is this is a western dating app, most asians on these apps are looking for white men.
Most of you want white women anyway
@@princejiminofbusan9209 I don't. I would date any other ethnicity first than a white western woman.
@@Barni2212 they're the most entitled and neurotic
@@mjkittredge a little harsh, don't you think.
That's why the old school way of meeting people in person is the best. Never used online dating, never will.
If you're watching this video - you're in the dead zone!
Thanks Jesus. :(
I was already there even before this video lul
And that's a good thing. Being one zone above is worse. Hopium and constant disappointments.
If women know my net worth and I was down for anything I can be fucking a different woman every week if I put all my effort into it
@@michaelangst6078 you're a coping betabux ! haha
Over 65 age male here. Wow. Am I glad I got out of the dating pool back in the '80s. Having watched a number of yours and others' videos, my eyes have been opened about dating app sites. Certainly for guys, the question would be, what is the alternative? I can see the attraction would be that there are the numbers of females on the apps, rather than having to do a lot more work in finding someone they would or could date. I can see how one could fall into the trap of looking at all the attractive women and thinking surely a few would be interested in dating a guy. The problem is just exacerbated because men are visual-oriented, and that can get them into trouble with a low-quality woman. But that's a topic for another video.
when I'm craving karma judgement, I'll know that the girl with 380+ ghosted tinder dates will end up all alone with no partner or kids eventually, I take a deep breath and thank the universe ☺️
Yeah, it really is true, lmao. Men actually get more value as they get older, and they can technically have kids at anytime/much later than women. These women have a huge ego but it's like they completely forget that the clock is ticking and the fun only goes for so long before they literally become useless to men if they aren't already with someone that actually loves them as a partner and a mother. At that point, they are thrown to the dust bin of life and it will be such a beautiful pain to witness these vapid, shallow bitches go through.
😂😂😂
She will have 47 cats all for herself. Lmao.
She will be one of the ‘Cougars’ at that local bar that gets pumped and DUMPED by younger guys who didn’t happen to land anything better that night. So she’ll be a cancellation prize ;) Then after doing that for a few years (Probably until late 40’s or at most early 50’s) she’ll join one of those stupid f**king women’s feminazi book store clubs and go “Do Brunch” with “The Girlzz” wearing those retarded purple hats making sure to mistreat male waiters.
I dated a girl like this for a brief amount of time, i met her in real life actually but yeah i dont see her getting married or having a successful marriage at that
We are currently dealing with dating apps, as we age, we will also have to deal with the consequences of heavy use of such apps. Identifying the broken females these apps leave in their wake.
Valid point.
this is only scratching the surface
… the latter is definitely smthg. I sincerily couldn’t care about less. The video shows who drove and benefits most from the current mess ever since, generally, and they’re doing all this voluntarily by their nature, for the promises advertised. So don’t count me in with your ‘we’ - thanks for nothing.
This video along with Better Bachelor's videos are the reason men are getting smarter and not playing these stupid games anymore. Men know their true value.
thumbs up for mentioning Joker!
@@josealexi5141 well, now that I am more blackpilled than I was 1 month ago, I can certainly say that I was wrong. Men know their true value = cope. Basically women get to choose, not men. Sorry about that, life happens.
*SOME men across America and among many other W.E.I.R.D./"1st world" countries, regions, spheres of influence, cities, etc.....are starting to know and understand their true value(and much more).
The majority in these respective contexts and environments are not though, let's not get it twisted.
BB views sometimes are a bit skewed with presentation but other topics of his are spot on. He's good at removing names of e-celebs or thot trash that he speaks about. Like Amuranth getting over 10k from her mod and dipped when it was revealed she was married.
@@josealexi5141
The Joket/Fsils for You truly rocks !
If I have a bad day, I watch a Joker or Fail for You video, its the same dude, and laugh myself to hysterics !
using dating apps also lowers your confidence. even girls that would have crush on you will reject you there cos it is fake af. so they boost their ego, get into princess mode and increase their standards and you lower yours cos you barely get dates with better than average look. = we lose asmen
Plus they use makeup and filters and all tricks to get the attention to feel special.
See them irl and they are a 4/10.
@@Morra5472 100% and some of the guys do it too. so many youtubers say oh if you are CHAD you get all girls online but it is not true. most ppl I know start using these apps who are over 8/10, even they dont get matches. cos you need altered pictures of yourself, rich pictures, showoff as a good looking man too. you need professional photographer to build your FAKE profile :D also another issue about it is when you are 8/10 or over as a man and get attention in reallife alot but you go dating app with shitty profile, no likes no dates then you start question yourself. my suggestion do not use any dating apps which may heal woman! imagine we all stop using dating apps , woman will be deprived of attention then they realise they are not princessses... that would save the world!
I've given up on Tinder
A good decision.
Trust me, the longer you stick with online dating sites, the worse your self-esteem will be.
I will admit it. 4 years ago I used to use POF to find girls for pump and dump. Unlike tinder you didn't need to match to talk to girls. I sort of had game and I went after girls that were either fat or that I felt had a promiscuous vibe. All the girls I hooked up with were emotionally unstable in one way or the other. Either way POF has changed now and the market is harder. I don't use dating apps anymore and have adjusted my preferences to be better
I slayed on there in 2018 myself. But eventually it seemed that most of the girls were obese single moms, or the random strung out addict. So I abandoned it. I've checked back in a time or two since and it still seems like trash. But much like you, the easy lays from POF that were also supplemented with tinder and in person hunting made me value sex so little that my standards have gotten insanely high. I'll do without for months before I actively try to fuck anything below a 7.5, and even that isn't appealing most of the time. I'd rather chase my hobbies.
The women that you could pump and dump 4 or 5 years ago all expect a Chris Hemsworth lookalike now
@@mikesantos011 100%
same brother same 😪😪
You know what this split is reminiscent of: the income/wealth split in a capitalist country. Whether it's sex or money, it's the small haves vs the large have nots. And unlike with income issues, there's no social democracy when it comes to sexual access.
Prostitutes would disagree.
This is probably very true. My experience is literally overweight older women that are completely unattractive. I'm actually disgusted with the match results.
Wheat waffles is a saint tbh
SAINT WAFFLES
"Wait, it's rigged?"
"Always has been."
Just like Star Citizen...
I'm sorry I really cant do it
Even though im not attractive at all im not going to be a part of some girl's reverse harem that she just get emotional and ego gratification from while waiting patiently for chad to swoop in and smash.
Dating is not for me and I think its one of those things I'm coming to terms with and that's okay. Good luck to all the guys that still want to play this weird game.
Im done
work earn money and improve your look brother
Youre done with girls booster packs mindset, its and addiction but the only one who beat it was moist critical
how life been brother ? r u still done with women, sadly i think (i dont think i know) im being forced to go my own way😂😂
I agree, dating apps are pretty much useless... Very few matches with some chats leading to nowhere.
Damn, #5 is extra brutal to me for some reason. It’s the complete opposite being an unattractive/average man on dating apps than being an unattractive woman. We’ve all known this for a while though.
@John Wiesmer Yeah when I say average I’m referring to normies in the 5-6.5 range.
@John Wiesmer I can’t really see your face, and if I zoom in it looks blurry
@John Wiesmer I’m assuming that’s you anyway
@John Wiesmer based off what I can see they look like 5-6 range. I can barely see their eyes. Mid face looks a little horse ish.
@John Wiesmer I may also not be the best person to ask for a rating. From my experience I tend to overrate people a little bit.
Well I never used dating apps before. And after watching this video, my thoughts are unchanged! Nothing beats meeting someone face-to-face and traditionally.
The girl im with now i met in online dating. I want more abundance, which i can, but just the sheer amoung of work i felt i had to do was exhausting. This graph makes it all clear. I think im around top 60%-70% in the chart; cant imagine what other guys go through. Screw em all.
In my experience, dudes do this often. So I am more focused on being comfortable by myself, focus on hobbies/interests, and go out to public spaces after work. Meet random people.
I had success on dating apps but I deleted them because of the photo doctoring deception. Whamen are experts at photo manipulation. Almost every date I've had off of Tinder, the chick in person didn't look as good as her pics. They tend to post the pics back when they were in shape.
Hahahahahahhaa, your profile picture, your name especially and your "whamen" just make the comment legendary
Tell me about it
Screwed a land whale once I actually saw numerous photos of in ”flattering” camera angles making me convinced she was not so out of shape.
I don't find that to be a turn-off, since that is just expected.. I also look way better in my profile pics than I do in person, and I have to let my charismatic personality do its best to make up for it
Or it’s cropped so you can only see their face (heavily filtered)
I've had this problem too. I was talking to a girl on Tinder who looked cute in her Tinder pics, then I found her Facebook profile and discovered she was literally using pictures from 10 years ago on her Tinder. She's about 50-70 lbs heavier now.
10:51 Shortness is an attractive female trait. Shorter females tend to pair with taller males, since both are considered attractive.
Spot on about the comment that Asian women do not date Asian men. Their reasons are always nonsense. “They remind me of my brother.” Notice white women never say white men remind them of their brother. Worse yet, they all think they’re unique in their racist preferences despite it being widespread. Humans have a need to feel like they have autonomy in and uniqueness in their choice so this only exacerbates the problem.
Also pretty funny that it plays into the "all asians look the same" stereotype.
Sure the Japanese guy reminds you of your brother, Thai girl
White women definitely say this also, trust me loool, it’s hard out here fellas
I'm 6'5 and I clearly listed that in my profile, I have a nice face, blue eyes, clean cut in-shape guy. Not a model but definitely above average. Would say I'm in the top 20% maybe even top 10-15%. I struggled to find a quality woman on dating apps, I found plenty of average women to pump and dump, but when it came time to find an undamaged young woman without kids who I found attractive enough to pursue a relationship with, it was pretty much non existent. Imagine how bad it is for men who aren't 6'5 and aren't handsome. Guys you gotta get off these apps.
The real problem is focusing your life around women and making them an achievement instead of working on yourself. Type of men on dating apps are the ones who are throwing themselves at any women they see and decreasing their own value.
Truer words have never been spoken.
I agree with this video.
I am not trying to boast or show off.
I am an Asian guy who matches with almost 100% of Asian women that I swipe right on.
I also get matches from Koreaboos and average-below average white women.
Shows that if you're good looking you can even break the ethnic barrier.
As a top 10% man I try my best to be shitty to all women on the app. You're welcome :)
K-Pop MAX my boy then you wont need no dating apps
Yeah you don't live in the west
@@scottmoering9810 actually I live in Canada haha very populated city too.
How are we supposed to think you’re showing off when you say that most of your matches are below average kboo white women
@@princejiminofbusan9209 I don't think you understand how disadvantaged Asian men are on dating apps 😂
You know what's messed up? The notification prompts you get on tinder like "there's a current swipe surge" or those encouraging notifications like " your only a swipe away" constantly, obviously for men we know it's not has easy to get a match but for girls it's like a game to girls it's actually crazy when I Deeps it
"get a date this weekend, use boost!"
The joke is when you get a date but she flakes. 😂😂
I agree with all of this. These are just the mathematical reasons. There is way more insidious shit going on with these apps. Woman just wanting validation, free meals, and the beat goes on. You’re better off approaching women in real life. If she rejects you then at least you can be safe in the knowledge that you had the courage to do what most men don’t anymore. Plus it sets you apart.
Unfortunately this is quite accurate and why stopped using dating apps. Im not a 9 or 10 in looks but in person, I’m attractive enough to date women who are - in real life and I have - but online I get treated average. I often find that despite getting hundreds of matches, most of them are mentally unstable, single mothers, old pictures, or loose women. And I always get the sense I’m in competition with other guys. Unless you’re ridiculously good looking or rich, tinder is a headache.
Hamza ahmed and his goons can't refute this, life as a man is a joke unless you are Chad or rich enough. To not work
"his goons"? xD
Waffles pinned me 😍😍😍
You. Made my day tbh,
@@rahulbiju5991 his subs, they all swarmed me when I disagreed with him and just threw ad hominems, no actual cogent arguments were posited
As obvious as Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself.
rich doesn't mean anything because women can have their own income and don't need to men to pay for them anymore. They get laid with men at higher looks even though they're married with rich people
Nothing will ever change human to human contact.The online dating apps are doing far more harm than good!
In the 1980s, I joined a video based dating service. It was the same situation. I went thru the entire library of 250 women and the best was a rating 3. I thought it was Los Angeles was just bad for men but this is a world wide problem. In nightclubs and bars the ratio was 10 to 1.
@leobah After getting to 30, I dropped "looks" and "weight" from my criteria. Between 30 and 40 was my peak dating years in my life so I did everything possible. Work is now dominating my time nowadays so I gave up dating and looking. I am out of the target range for woman in my 50s.
@leobah I live in South Florida. It is difficult to find a woman that isn't seeing someone in this area. I am always on the lookout when I go to social gatherings (when I get a bite to eat) though. I try not get have any expectations.
@leobah Also in my 20's when I said the rating was 3. It was because I was 25 years old and out of the 250 women, most of them were over 40 and I saw at least 50 of them in their 60s. At 25, I had not had sex so I thought it would be better to date at my age or lower just because my experience was non-existent at 25. I was able to get a date with a woman with dirty black teeth that was a my age. But she didn't go on a third date and no chemistry. She was a rating of 3 because of her black teeth.
This is another reason why I don’t bother even trying anymore. I get some attention from women but it’s so few and far between and it always ends before it ever gets started and leaves me pissed off and resentful toward women. So at this point I just don’t even try anymore. It’s way too much effort for little to no payoff for my efforts.
And that’s your problem, how are you going to build a relationship with someone who you resent? Either stay single or try dating men.
@@princejiminofbusan9209 you really have no empathy for what men go through trying to connect with women these days. Seems you have no idea
@@princejiminofbusan9209
I think you need to understand the amount of time and attention that is being wasted of men these days. Even if a woman is giving a guy all the indicators of interest, a man in 2021 has no way to know if its real or if she just wants attention and validation. Deciphering this has forced many men to do a true cost benefit analysis, and question if courting women is worth it.
@@robertnewett5932 I agree to a point... i think most men come off incredibly fucking lame even when they meet women for dates which turns women off quickly... Regardless, it's 100% true that men have to do all the work and have a charismatic personality on dates while the woman can just sit back and do nothing and eat her free food
@@michaelangst6078 100%....women do zero work, they get to show up and don't have to pay and then do the same thing with the next guy...
The black pill made me not angry whenever the girl I like likes the hotter dude because its outside of my control. Now I live for myself and stop trying to get game.
Your free brother 🤝
The height issue has gone to a point where it's literally depressing. And even if I was a tall guy, I would say the exact same thing. Now sorry guys, Im not american so I'm not familiar with the inches and feet thing, so I will keep it in centimeters. A girl that is 175 cm will give a guy that is 180 cm a chance. Then you'd assume that girls that are 165 cm would give guys at 170 a chance, the same height difference from previous example. But nope, your wrong. Even the girl at 165, even girls BELOW 165 has gotten obsessed by 6 feet (which is around 180 cm). It's like there was a switch which someone turned on and out of the blue, almost all girl got obsessed by the 6 feet number. EVEN if the guy would be SLIGHTLY under 6 feet, say 5'11 - Girls won't have it. They are more concerned of you living up to that number than your actuall personality. It's way more important for girls to say to their friends "look, I have a boyfriend that's 6 feet" than "I found a boyfriend thats really intelligent, sweet and funny". Men, leave fucking Tinder, read about stoicism and become your own alpha.
I think height issue is a western concept , also girls who r 5.8 or 5.9 want 6+ tall guy
Most women don't care that much about height
Yeah most woman don't care too much as long as you are taller than her
That issue is only in USA
Their bench mark is apparently 6ft3
And even the majority of men in their population isn't that tall
I have never really find height being that big of a decisive factor
Unless if i was shorter than the woman in question
Which is a bit rare
I thought i was a total looser. I gave up on it about a year ago. I was just thinking of trying again, thanks for convincing me not to waste my confidence!
dont do it brother even as a chadlite my confidence is still below sea level , ive had women approach me; try to talk to me & i just cant do it simply because my low self esteem i avoid them like the plague & i dont think theres any fixing that
i wanna add dating apps/constant flaking is what killed my confidence. i wasnt always like this
WW is producing the highest quality content in the manosphere right now fellas.
Maybe not, but he is at least in the top 10.
I like how analytical ww is
Has a bright future in some statiscal analytical field
@@lotuswolf1518 where he stands apart from other similarly analytical dating content creators is that he’s asking the right questions and applying stats and data to the right places.
He has an original mind, so he’s dissecting data in new ways that’s unexplored and this is giving us unique insights into the dating crisis we face in 2021.
@@ThomasFoolery8 he's done PhD in dating anaylytics n tinder women etc
So basically: Sausage fest after the low-hanging fruit.
I love that Wheat Waffles's channel is growing so much. I was here back when my guy was below 3k subs, and he was STILL pumping out fire content CONSISTENTLY. I'd love to see him talk with Face&LMS again.
She is right. If you want a woman, ignore any dating site. Dating sites went downhill around 2010 when it became a money industry.
The match making system is bullshit, because 100% match means nothing if you have no chemistry in real life.
Greetings with someone who been with same date last 15 years, and married for 12.
We were wrong match according to dating site.. Yeah right.