I read the Book while I was in prison. It really had an impact on me, although I couldn't remember the title. Until Today.... I found it! Happy Happy Dance!!
I understand omitting certain details for brevity, but adding things and completely changing parts is such a disservice to this masterpiece of a tale. Definitely worth it to read the book.
Great book - I listen to it a few times a year - as for Mr. Rohn.. one of the best men to share to the world as is his protege and my mentor - Tony Robbins ❤
Funny to see Finnish landmarks being depicted as Russian. Some of the footage was filmed in Kokkola, just few hundred meters from our home at the time. Didn't even know they made a movie there..
I sit here on a cold March evening, a pipe in hand, a sweet tobacco to fill it, and a fascinating film. What do I see? One of my heroes, Willie Nelson makes an appearance. Lovely!
This is of course a short movie, and hard to get everything trough from the book and real life events. But the episode in jail(spets Corpus), with the beatings and torture, he was there for a whole year in that little room, with 15 other people, many whom died during the stay. With a bowl of hot "spiced" water and a little ball of porridge for each day. They got a shower every 10 days, never new or washed clothes. They just treated their clothes with chemicals(carbolic acid), to kill the lice/vermin, that burned on your skin after the shower. It only helped for a little while tough, the next day the vermin was on them again eating the prisoners up. For 55 nights in a row he was beaten to until the point of death, passing blood in his stool after first night already. Because the beatings didn´t work they started another torture in the form of putting him in a dark room, beating him with boards and burning him with hot iron. After that night he was broken and spit his torturer in the head, after that he spent 1 month in the infermery, before going back to the cell. He never gave anyone up tough, which was the purpose of the torture and the political prison he was in. Creating more prisoners with false charges and false witnesses, to supply more slaves for their death-camps. /peace
@@chucklynch6523No, he was displaced...kept saying he was an American. Those prisoners, a cross section of Finn, Lapp, Swede, even Brits. Naturally, the Russians would never have allowed this film to be shot on their soil, 🇫🇮 Finland being a sensible alternative.
@@mckavitt13 I really don’t care for your grammatical correction. Dyslexic people like myself just think people like you are ignorant and yawn every time somebody corrects you. Yes she’s my auntie.
I appreciate that they made this movie, but it was disappointing how much they cut out of the book and glossed over. The movie gives very little emphasis on how long and brutal his prison stay was. There were so many horrific scenes in the book that didn’t make it to the screen. And sometimes they just down right changed things from the book. Like the part where Galina tells him she is going away for eight weeks. In the book he was very frustrated because she didn’t tell him. Why change some thing like that to be the exact opposite from what happened in the book? It doesn’t make any sense. Anyway, I would love to see this movie remade and done right.
I see the disparity of the two presentations as well. If Victor Herman was sentenced in 1938, his father couldn't have had an audience with Tukachevski...he was executed in the previous year under Stalin's purge trials! Riddle me that!
They both sucked on Rothschild's teets. Please research what Eustace Mullins has to say about it all. H.R. Harriman (Rothschild lackey) and his minions, like Prescott Bush (name sound familiar?), were used to resource both sides of the totalitarian monstrosity!!
The irony is that Willie Nelson could have provided a very nice soundtrack. Instead, we are subjected to an awful soundtrack, made worse by degradation from copying. Early '80s electronica was just a horrible sound even at the time.
This movie is about 1:44 long in its original release so there is quite a bit of the story missing here. I'm going from memory here because it has been many years since I originally saw this film, but they lived in Siberia for many more years and eventually Victor was allowed to leave the Soviet Union and the rest of his family was allowed to follow him to America a few years later. He returned to the U.S. in 1976 and died in 1985 of a heart attack.
@@Mari-if8xz LOL. That's a heck of a lot of people "in error" in many countries over many decades! Perhaps they should actually figure out what Marx and Engels were saying, rather than trying to push their impatience and personal fantasies on others.
@@SupatraderThe movie narrative said the arrival of German prisoners in 1944 gave some idea of his release, he said he held on for 4 years more...which would mean 1948, not after Stalin died...duuuhh!
I read the Book while I was in prison. It really had an impact on me, although I couldn't remember the title. Until Today.... I found it! Happy Happy Dance!!
I actually met Mr. Herman at my college. Very nice man. Excellent book. Read it.
I did... and I'm glad I found this movie on UA-cam
11:35 This is genuinely one of the best fights I’ve ever seen in a movie. Few of those punches looked like they landed. Brilliant acting.
I understand omitting certain details for brevity, but adding things and completely changing parts is such a disservice to this masterpiece of a tale. Definitely worth it to read the book.
Thank you , I known it from Jim Rohn's audio motivation
The man who refused to give up.
Pity they never made a scene with victor moving the logs
Same here.. what a legend and great philosopher that Jim Rohn, I would had love to meet him when he was alive.
One Powerful Movie!!!!!!
Jim Rohn introduced this movie to me
Great book - I listen to it a few times a year - as for Mr. Rohn.. one of the best men to share to the world as is his protege and my mentor - Tony Robbins ❤
A great movie of an incredible story with a powerful message. A great reference point to cheer you up if you are watching during the COVID lock down!
Yes absolutely - I wanted very much to meet this man but heard that he had died - somewhere have a letter from his wife telling me this.
Funny to see Finnish landmarks being depicted as Russian. Some of the footage was filmed in Kokkola, just few hundred meters from our home at the time. Didn't even know they made a movie there..
Savage a great underrated actor of all time Pete knows
I sit here on a cold March evening, a pipe in hand, a sweet tobacco to fill it, and a fascinating film. What do I see? One of my heroes, Willie Nelson makes an appearance. Lovely!
That Texas accent in Siberia!
@@farmalmtaAs off the cuff as British accents on all the Russians! The guards, the interrogator, camp bosses, even Tukachevski! (Ben Cross)
This is of course a short movie, and hard to get everything trough from the book and real life events. But the episode in jail(spets Corpus), with the beatings and torture, he was there for a whole year in that little room, with 15 other people, many whom died during the stay. With a bowl of hot "spiced" water and a little ball of porridge for each day. They got a shower every 10 days, never new or washed clothes. They just treated their clothes with chemicals(carbolic acid), to kill the lice/vermin, that burned on your skin after the shower. It only helped for a little while tough, the next day the vermin was on them again eating the prisoners up. For 55 nights in a row he was beaten to until the point of death, passing blood in his stool after first night already. Because the beatings didn´t work they started another torture in the form of putting him in a dark room, beating him with boards and burning him with hot iron. After that night he was broken and spit his torturer in the head, after that he spent 1 month in the infermery, before going back to the cell. He never gave anyone up tough, which was the purpose of the torture and the political prison he was in. Creating more prisoners with false charges and false witnesses, to supply more slaves for their death-camps.
/peace
The most important point is that HE was American ex-pat and he was singled out for that!!
@@chucklynch6523No, he was displaced...kept saying he was an American. Those prisoners, a cross section of Finn, Lapp, Swede, even Brits. Naturally, the Russians would never have allowed this film to be shot on their soil, 🇫🇮 Finland being a sensible alternative.
I’m here for Francesca Annis. 🌹😘
I'm also here because of her. Francesca appears here from 1:15:50 (not seen thoroughly, maybe earlier).
I was born in 82 and also my sir name is Annis
@@lewisannis6031 You mean your surname, Lewis. Are you related to Francesca Annis?
@@mckavitt13 I really don’t care for your grammatical correction. Dyslexic people like myself just think people like you are ignorant and yawn every time somebody corrects you. Yes she’s my auntie.
Francesca played the Lady Jessica in the first Dune movie...
I appreciate that they made this movie, but it was disappointing how much they cut out of the book and glossed over. The movie gives very little emphasis on how long and brutal his prison stay was. There were so many horrific scenes in the book that didn’t make it to the screen. And sometimes they just down right changed things from the book. Like the part where Galina tells him she is going away for eight weeks. In the book he was very frustrated because she didn’t tell him. Why change some thing like that to be the exact opposite from what happened in the book? It doesn’t make any sense. Anyway, I would love to see this movie remade and done right.
I see the disparity of the two presentations as well. If Victor Herman was sentenced in 1938, his father couldn't have had an audience with Tukachevski...he was executed in the previous year under Stalin's purge trials! Riddle me that!
18:10 that’s marks dad from peep show…
I haven’t checked but I am disgustingly good at recognising people.
I remember when this came out. I remember when the real Victor Herman did some talk shows around it
Which ones, please?
this is an important story stalin and hitler were two sides of the same coin
So true. Neither of them valued human life. They imprisoned, tortured and killed in the name of ideology.
They both sucked on Rothschild's teets. Please research what Eustace Mullins has to say about it all. H.R. Harriman (Rothschild lackey) and his minions, like Prescott Bush (name sound familiar?), were used to resource both sides of the totalitarian monstrosity!!
@@chucklynch6523 stop with this anit semite crap i will report you
@@MrBillcale Khazarians are Turkic, NOT anything else. Do your research!!
Stalin was much worse
What do you prefer isolation or the mines?
Queria encontrar dublado em português
Gostaria que esse filme fosse reematerizado em DVD autorado com dublagem
The irony is that Willie Nelson could have provided a very nice soundtrack. Instead, we are subjected to an awful soundtrack, made worse by degradation from copying. Early '80s electronica was just a horrible sound even at the time.
The story of Victor is more like David Goggins story
Terrible and beautiful.
Confused about the ending though. Was the last scene just a dream?
Read DOLGUN, another American in the Gulag.
This movie is about 1:44 long in its original release so there is quite a bit of the story missing here. I'm going from memory here because it has been many years since I originally saw this film, but they lived in Siberia for many more years and eventually Victor was allowed to leave the Soviet Union and the rest of his family was allowed to follow him to America a few years later. He returned to the U.S. in 1976 and died in 1985 of a heart attack.
FAFO essentially
He favored socialism over capitalism and went to live in Russia. Let this be the example...
He favored socialism? Victor did? Please go back and watch the movie!!
@@chucklynch6523 Movie is not accurately presenting the facts. Read the actual history you'll see. He of course changed his mind.
@@chucklynch6523 I think it was Victor's dad that was the one that favored the socialism/communism
It is individuals not the philosophy at error
@@Mari-if8xz LOL. That's a heck of a lot of people "in error" in many countries over many decades!
Perhaps they should actually figure out what Marx and Engels were saying, rather than trying to push their impatience and personal fantasies on others.
factually incorrect. you would only get 15 or 25 years in the camps. 10 years was not an option.
Yeah, he was actually 18 years in the Gulag.
@@geronimozarza8495 yeah, there was actually this thing where they let them all out once Stalin died. Read a history book, ya dolt
@@SupatraderThe movie narrative said the arrival of German prisoners in 1944 gave some idea of his release, he said he held on for 4 years more...which would mean 1948, not after Stalin died...duuuhh!