Who needs fpv sims?
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- Опубліковано 10 лют 2025
- Do fpv sims help you shred sky? or do they teach you bad habits? watch this video to get none of these questions answered.
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If you want to progress faster, then the answer is: Yes, most of us need sims. And that is non debatable.
Big facts!
I’m a big fan of velocidrone, we are within the sim, our gates😅 ❤
My first experience of FPV was trying to buy an Avata after a nervous breakdown (doctor suggested it to calm me), thinking it was a "normal" drone & the guy selling it was like "You know you need goggles for this right?" and I was like why tf would I need goggles for it? He explained and said he had a friend who could sell me a pair of V2's for £300. I said no thanks because I didn't know what I was getting myself into and the drone was already £600 (+ fly more kit & remote 2) But I got back in my car and just sat thinking, I really want that drone. It sounded awesome having never heard of FPV before. Decided to message him and say I'll take it + then drove an hour to meet another random dude and bought the goggles. Didn't know sims even existed, didn't know anyone or follow anyone into FPV, I just put the goggles on and started flying in normal & sport mode in a field, totally illegally as I didn't know the rules lol. Took me a week before I googled what "manual mode" was because I could't access it, but I'd still been having fun in N/S. After following the online tutorial I took to the sky, flipped it into manual mode, strafed to the right a bit and then immediately crashed in a panic, because it was nothing like a "normal" drone or N/S modes.. I tried again, crashed, again, crashed.. until I didn't. I managed to actually stay in the air and even turn! Sounds hilarious to me now but I think that was the exact moment I got hooked on FPV. And then I started searching and following established pilots like you, started talking to people in the community and learnt about quads, freestyle & the sims, put about 17 hours straight into Uncrashed while smoking a ton of wd and built the muscle memory, next flight I was already doing split S's & power loops.. You can definitely learn without a sim, but wow do they make building that muscle memory so easy compared to the real thing. I only use the sim when I can't fly for real now though, just doesn't hit the same without the risk and feels weird. I'm also the proud owner of 2x 5" quads, 2x Whoops, a dumb mini SE & my Avata has been modified into an FPV RC car camera lol. If you read this long I salute you, I just need to keep typing because I'm upset and talking FPV makes me happy + there's a limit on the live chat lol. FPV has played a huge part in why I'm still alive right now, things got really bad for me 14 months ago and I honestly don't think I would of had the escape I needed that FPV gave, to still have the strength to keep fighting. And specifically you, the best FPV pilot in the world, helped me with your style of videos, your honesty, humor and reminders to always try to be having fun man, or what's the point.
this made me happy!!!
Velocidrone was integral in retraining my brain to fly Air mode instead of Angle. I would have broken all the whoops irl :)
Once you can perch or generally land where you intend to in a sim, you can get a real drone. After that, the sim is mostly good for trying tricks without fucking the quad up.
I totally agree. I have a 9 year old brother who's watched me fly. Let him try liftoff and he was actually decent from the start. After 1 hour, he took his first flight. Even though my ass cheeks were clenched the whole time, he didn't crash and landed alright. Gifted him my cetus x and he got pretty decent. Some people just get the hang of it immediately.
Yeah some people they are spending like 300 hours in a sim, then post videos online to rate them.... entirely pointless.
3 to 6 hours to get comfortable with the basic controls and then you need to go outside and forget about the sim for 3 to 6 months.
Then after, when you try to learn all the super complex freestyle tricks, you can go back in the sim to get the muscle memory for them. (stick movement)
I spent about 200 hours in liftoff micro drones before I got my analog mob 8. It transferred perfectly, i forgot I was flying in real life at points almost lol. Felt comfortable on my first pack. I'll swear by it now
Very surprised you have not mentioned Velocidrone, which everyone agrees to have the best physics.
Yeah it's the best feel for me, still I don't like the maps much. I am trying fpv logic now, and I am still getting used to the feel but the maps are sooo dope for freestyle.
Other then that I think that uncrashed it probably the best all rounder and I think it will become the most popular fpv sim.
@KainniaK yes, velocidrone graphics and maps are not it's strong suit, but the physics are quite important. Specially for beginners, you want to have to closest feel to reality if you are learning on a sim...
If you watch he mentions velocidrone onscreen a bunch of times, I guess he just forgot it when he was talking.
velocidrone feels the best
I have 1,250 hours in Velocidrone, 168 in DRL, 10 in Uncrashed, 61 in Liftoff, and not sure how many in TinyWhoop. I never have time to go fly IRL, so 95% of my practice is done in the SIM. The new update to Velocidrone is awesome! Bunch of new whoops, and the updated physics are EPIC!!!!!! Even if it's not perfect, it builds the needed muscle memory. And as a old guy with a crap memory, I need all the help I can get. Lol
What about buying Tinywhoop and flying for 10 minutes inside?
@@stumbras2000 I whoop race every weekend in the winter, so thats my IRL practice. Lol
They have helped me. I sucked horribly for the first few months of flying fpv, could only do horizon then angle. Got liftoff and TRYP and sucked in them flying acro until I could actually fly though something without crashing into it along with the rest of the world. Chasing the cars helps a lot since with ADHD there is just too much cool stuff everywhere to get distracted by when trying bando and the cars keep me focused and learning the stick movements. Then when I went to real life again on my first build, a 5", I didn't crash and could actually rip a little, until I got over confident and started trying advanced inverted flippy spin stuff and the ground ran into my drone just like in the sims. But before them I was terrible and not getting better crashing my pavo20 irl every time. So they do help, but def not the same as IRL.
My homie bought a tx12 8 months or so ago. All he has done is fly on Tryp FPV because he has no goggles or drones yet. Yesterday I took him out to fly with my hdzero setup on a 2" and 5" freestyle drone. He was hitting solid tricks for his first time flying and had zero issues with the controls. I am 100% a believer in simulators as the gateway to FPV on a low budget.
Liftoff is fun, I sometimes just fly around to turn off my brain :D
Uncrashed has a great map editor and new physics update is awesome!
Are the physics good now? Last time I played that sim it had horrible physics
When did that Physics update come out?
@@oliverkrause7307 December 9th, I just checked, I thought it was more recent.
*It was TRYPs physics that got updated on the 19th.
@knarpasti4508 yes it feels great! have to make sure to enable physics 2.0 in options
@@oliverkrause7307 Not too long ago, and it's awesome :)
I agree on so many things. Fpv freerider was also my first sim.
Oh man, FPV free rider gave clip me flashback )
Nice background behind you lol
Yep. Learned by crashing and breaking all my quads. Repeatedly. Id get all depressed. Rebuild. Fly and crash some more. By the time sims were good, the crashes were less often and less disastrous. Kinda glad i learned to fly the hard way
Everybody needs a sim, both to learn and fly when you can't do it outside. I learned to fly on GTA V with a very good mod (supports radios, you have the full GTA experience as a drone, and you can even bind a projectile button to shoot from your drone), it's pretty much my go to along side Logic. There's also a mod for RDR2 apparently, if you want to fpv drone in 1899.
I didnt fly a single sim until about 3 years in. I use uncrashed now just to dial in advanced tricks. Before i send it IRL i will do it a couple times in uncrashed. Kind of like how a pro race car driver learns tracks.
Yep, Sims are a great way for newbies to learn how to fly without breaking the bank and their shiny new toy.
So I proceeded to learn how to fly the Eachine Qx65 tiny Whoop. Which was way too easy to loose in the grass. Learned acro on the King Kong ET115, just a big ass whoop. First 5" was the Emax Hawk 5. That was a blast. 👍😎
I now try to fly IRL or in the sim everyday (made a commitment to myself earlier this year coming into the Australian Nationals to stay on the sticks). I’m hoping one day I’ll be flying IRL too much I won’t need the the sim. But until I can find some good IRL flying spots I’ll keep smashing those bandos in Uncrashed and practicing my racing in Velocidrone.
Took me two hours on velocidrone to be able to fly IRL. It was a great transition, I even copied my velocidrone rates
Velocidrone for learning because of the most realistic physics!
"Velocidrone flight training playlist" on youtube and all the "level" maps. Id recommend 50-200hours just racing
After racing basics id recommend freestyle. Uncrashed has better maps than velocidrone and decent physics
Other sims like have other stron points: fpvLogic has two big industrial maps, trypFPV maps size and graphics for example but i dont likethere physics so I just stick to two simulators
fpv kamikaze multiplayer so much fun its no different than playin call of duty cmon man a vid by u on it would be THE BEST
I dont play call of duty but I get what your sayin.
As a kid that also used to come home and play THPS you really should check out the THPS Remix maps in Uncrashed by Denied (i think). Its very nostalgic to rip through the mall.
Just got a Boxer radio today and started flying in the sim, first 15 minutes was whack because my roll was inverted in liftoff micro drones. Got that corrected and found it much easier to fly. Two hours in and I'm already hitting gaps in the playground practising. Wont have much cash for an actual drone for a while so the sim is all I got.
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The first SIM i used when i first started 5 years ago,.was an Eachine Wizard x220 4s, Aeomway commanders, and Cheap Flysky fsi6 Transmitter. The rest is history..
I learned by taking a tiny whoop outside, and going until I figured it out lol...never learned on Sims. But I see how they can help...
Do you like to race? Velocidrone
Do you like to freestyle? Uncrashed
The rest are shit
I got 80hrs in drl sim and tbh it transfers damn near perfect im doing sum crazy shi around my house lol. I push hard in the sim tho and sit for hours I think thats why
Liftoff is for learning
Uncrashed is for fun, racing, and amazing graphics, and now has multiplayer and a map editor
Tryp is just fun
Velocidrone is #1 for racing and training, and has great multiplayer lobbies
AIDroneSim is underrated and has impressive physics
Ive been using sims on and off for about 3 or 4 years now.
I havent had a need to spend an extra 1500+ to buy a drone and the things that i will need to continue to use that drone.
Ive been in rc since a teen and i know the costs involved. So if im honest, i kinda like doing it without the added costs, its not quite as fun and good as the real thing, but i havent had the need to spend anymore money over the years ive enjoyed it, so im ok with that.
A number of times, my sim muscle memory saved my ass irl. Nice mic.
I loved liftoff, but I haven't used it for years. I was breaking so many props but just a few hours and I was on my way and now I dont need them anymore.
Hey man, love watching your content. Keep it real.
Learned to fly in 2020, at the age of 52, and it never crossed my mind to use a sim to learn. I’ve tried a few sims since but generally I find they all suck and I get motion sickness, which I don’t get in goggles 🤷🏻♂️
THPS 1 and 2 was such a vibe when it released, we spent way too many hours as kids doing the stupidest combos and tricks. We had this competition at my school to see who could get the highest combo score and it basically turned into people putting the perfect balance cheat on and grinding a circle rail, leaving the Playstation on for a week and coming back to check the score... ahhh the days.
He said it perfect. GB Rips and zoning out on Tony Hawk.. and yes.. then COMBOS! I just got TRYP and the Boxer. Wish me luck 🎉
A 40oz of Ol'E wow haven't finished one of those since I was 13! Back in the days... ahhh.. yeah I rocked freerider too... run on my cheap vr goggles looked pretty sick
A 64oz bro, the jug of old gold.
so having used "old english" in a sentence I estimate you at 2-3 headache days a week.
Sims are for people who live in an environment where drone laws are so strict and they don’t get to fly often
Heads from infinity loops seems to always say that Velocidrone feels the realest
Ya, perfectly said!! If you want to learn stick movements then you have to sim, unless your very rich like Tyler Perry and Rick Ross who have fleets of RC planes worth over $100,000 (yes, they fly 😂). But you don't need 300 hours, I'd say 10 to 20 hours depend9ng on learning speed, learn the basic tricks, and go out when it feels right, just pick a safe spot on the first flight, abd make sure everything is right. Sweaty and shaking hands is normal the first couple times. Great video dude 👍
Lift Off: Micro Drones is pretty good if you like whoops. The physics were wack when it first came out, but they've tweaked and tweaked it until now the in game mobula 6 feels a lot like my real world mobula 6.
Always a good take away !
Just starting to get into my new hobby.I switch between uncrashed, liftoff, velocidrone and logic fpv to learn flying while waiting on the last parts.. e.g. goggles.. I dig them all but as a newbie I can't tell which one is the closest to flying IRL. I can't wait to fly/crash/rebuild my quad!
There was a time with real flight 6/6.5 that really helped flying in real life for rc helicopters(single rotor with tail rotor). Anything i could master in the sim easily translated to real life. This was before flybarless was common, so honestly it should have been harder to replicate. I have tried velocidrone, but its nothing like real life IMO. That said, it will probably help with getting used to a new radio/stick ends/settings.
I’ve got most of the main sims and don’t think any of them feel like the real thing… But, I can see how they could be beneficial for some pilots.
Yeah started in Freerider too. Analysis on spot Bot....
When I was begining with FPV, I ordered all the shit from Banggood and Aliexpress so I had to wait for almost 2 months before everything arrived.
But I was so hyped to fly that I just used my gamepad (Playstation-like style) and was flying DRL simulator with that... like if starting FPV isn't hard enough, I had to struggle with spring centering throttle. But it was better than nothing. :)
I started out with a tiny whoop. Sims are great for the reasons you posted.
I'm learning on a sim - still a lot to learn before I fly for real. I'm a retiree and a complete newbie.
Even for freestyle, sims are soooo important. The physics feel pretry same, and its all about stick time. If you dont do somethink often, you suck at it.
damn, didnt know i needed to run fortnite with bot till now lmao
I use a sim only when I have no working whoop to fly. It happens sometimes. But it's like a methadone fix, y'know?
My laptop died and I can't remember what I used, there was a drift expansion I brought too
For me FPV is about being outside in the world so the Sims never really did it for me. But I think they're a great training tool. When I first started flying I just lost or trashed a lot of quads until I finally got it right, Sims would have been a better way to get started.
Fpv logic is really good. I wish they would roll out multiplayer but the phys engine feels really good and it's tunable. It also looks really good. Play factory 1 and try to powerloop the 4 holes in the roof
Uncrashed is King! Saves me on wrecked quads and is Great for that Muscle Memory. Ppl on there are sound too.
Velocidrone is imo the best for physics
I got liftoff, I think the like going up is realistic but going down isnt if that makes sense
Hey stop scaring people flying at night. People are starting to think aliens are coming. Lol
😎 simulators in my opinion are only usefully when it's raining 🌧
This video made me feel so dedicated ha ha ha ha, I watched all of it.
FPV Logic is the closest to real physics for me.
It's funny when seeing videos of novice pilots flying fpv after having practiced in the sim just riping full throttle in life while having least dexterity and flow ending up crashing haul ass against anything unexpected coming their way 😂😂😂
Okay, so I'm really curious what you mean by the "gravity" being off in the sims. Is this a well-known phenomenon? Because simulating gravity is basically the easiest thing to get right. You set it to -9.81m/s^2 and you're golden. I imagine the thing most simulators are likely to get wrong is aerodynamics, which is complex and difficult to get right. It's a very important effect, especially with very small vehicles like this that have a very high ratio of aero effects compared to their weight. Mostly when drones are ripping forwards, their body and blades will present a sort of inverted wing to the air that will push them down and needs to be counteracted with thrust, so if sim drones feel too "floaty", that may explain it.
I'd really like to know more details about this issue, because I'd like to understand what people mean by the "gravity issue", specifically.
In Liftoff i have 1,376 hrs.
I checked out Uncrashed and Tryp but they don't have tiny whoops so I stuck with FPV Logic and the two first bando maps there are just so fucking awesome
I like TRYP Fpv, nice sim with a good soundtracks, and it have racing, freestyle, and some scenario missions. And my favorite actions to fly on chimera 7 and making dives down the mountains.
At first I use simple betafvp controller, than I bought TX16S and practice on it, than i start fly in realty with the feeling of my rc.
i tried to do fpv sims once, i rly rly didnt like the experiance.
and i dont like to abuse my 600 euro ''controller''
Sims 100% make you a much better pilot, it doesn't matter that it's not the exact same as real life. Just like everything else you have to practice with intent.
Cant fly the 5" much anymore, so i sim.
I whoop around the house and cant afford to be crashing.
I've only got liftoff, and have been flying for 6 years now. Started with liftoff and tx7.
I started flying in sim, and rapidly move to real life, I still practice in sim since I don’t always have time to go out and fly. I also use the SIM to practice when I have a job, it is not easy to go from flying super fast to flying super slow when showing a property, it takes a few minutes for your bran to readjust to slower rates… To me sim is a tool…
I am a non simmer flying real world has always been enough for me
I did fly a toy quad, not fpv, before never playing an fpv sim
Im new fpv and I'm buying your demibot and just going to send it
Uncrashed ftw! They keep adding new maps and features 🤘
I really like TRYP
holy shit, that was in 2017 you got that tattoo? crazy how time flies
That first game on Steam was interesting... Not sure that is has much to do with FPV tho.
Speaking of Tony Hawks Pro Skater🤔
I got the famous bandos in New York and New Jersey on uncrashed and a new bando I’m about to add on my map the one we all love for a x-mas for yall as a gift
oh shit!
@ yea dog I put in. Hours on this shit
I think best simulator is velocidrone feels the most real life you can get if you're a new pilot id say get it. I used velocidrone to test my rates I would change them and test them in velocidrone then go out and test them outside and I did this till I settled on my rates I fly now l. LThe second Sim is go with is FPV logic and 3rd I'd go with Uncrashed for freestyle. Ps TRYP FPV Just got Betaflight added to it and had a big physics overhaul and quad feel update and a bunch of other things I guess if TRYP can get the quad feel right is say they would be the second one to get but they haven't as of the last time I played but like I said I haven't played the update yet so maybe they fixed it. haven't checked it out personally yet. Also velocidrone also got a big update they added a bunch of new quads and they also did some quality of life updates and graphics I guess. These are just my opinions. Happy Flying y'all.
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Do the Sims allow you to adjust the latency to match your own hardware ??
you shouldnt really have latency in your hardware...
I don't think so, but if you ask ELRS devs nicely they might just add that feature to their wireless Bluetooth joystick mode :)
Better pump up those numbers…
liftoff and liftoff microdrones ftw
I just bought the Wings sim to learn fixed wing... Yeah, it helped but it's nothing like the real thing.
Forgot Assetto Corsa
More like FPV not free Rider amirite?
I like freerider
I really like velocidrone
Word up
I guess that was a good video or not, I don’t care
Buy up all your parts now. Because once these tarrifs hit drone parts are gonna skyrocket
Yup
Being in EU, we have been paying those prices for years allready :-(
You gota try the FPV mod for GTA5
3:10 the developers are actually ukranian and all the money from the game goes to charity in ukraine
🤘
great assessment -- sim time won't teach you to fly, but you can learn stick movements and get muscle memory