It was far more than an IT fault , it was the systematic distruction of multiple lives to protect the reputatation of the post office and it's flawed computer system , the cover up was imense and absolutely criminal , these post masters were sacrificed and the fact that senior people in the post office were never jailed over this is a national disgrace .
This has truly been one of the most awful miscarriages of justice I have ever watched, and they are still being betrayed. How brave these people have been and how sad they are still being wronged. 😢
Poor innocent lady !!! The way she was treated is appaling !!! They treated her like she has no dignity!!! It is disgusting!!! I am pleased that you have spoken about this publicly. I hope she will receive justice
Hi Seema. You did well in your interview with JRM tonight. What happened to you and your family and other postmasters was a disgrace. I hope you can find peace.
Someone or some people must be put to jail, the shame and humiliation and torture these people went through by a cover up are life changing and no money can ever heal their wounds 😢. They did nothing wrong and the courts and the judge’s convicted them, the CPS must be fined and who put this case in must be put to jail, the clarks and judges who convicted these people must also be put to jail.
So why are the chiefs in charge who knew that some of these innocent sub postmasters were going to prison should be going to prison themselves. Why should they get away with cheating and lying? Makes my blood boil taking these peoples lives away.
I know parliament jeer Andrew Bridgen and your pathetic authoritarian government sacked him for speaking out for the vaccine injured but it was Andrew Bridgen was also the MP who spent years tirelessly working with the postal workers for justice. So well done Andrew Bridgen, keep up the fight for everyone victim of injustice parliament ignore and sweep under the carpet.
A. Why is Fujitsu not in the dock for this and B. Why does Fujitsu continue to get ANY contracts from UK companies or the Government? They screwed up the London 999 system for the fire brigade and ambulance services and they caused 100% of the programming problems with the Post Office. Why are they still in business and why aren't they paying?
"Why does Fujitsu continue to get ANY contracts from UK companies or the Government?" Because they are *BILLION* pound contracts and corporate "gifts" given to decision makers in government procurement go undeclared.
Prison reputation family’s lost most will never see the money a terrible tragedy how could all these people who did not know each other do this after years of service a disgrace,, pay up it will never repay them but they may help those who lost everything 😊
Of course, if TALENTED software engineers had been employed to write the Post Office system, rather than the cheapest, then none of this would probably have happened!
Better software developers could have helped but all computer systems can have faults and the issue here was much broader than that. It was a failure of the post office investigation process and the justice system itself.
May God bless this Lady and all the postmasters who were wrongly prosecuted. Shame on the Post office and disgusting they they are still playing with these people's lives.
the fact it happened was prob to see how Easy it would be to convict an innocent via an purpouseful error this is only going to get worse the post office over the last 6 years has decayed heavly with sorting offices being lazier and lazier
So what's happened to the person or persons responsible for all of this? Proud are you to have caused such misery and pain? Shame and disgrace on you perpetrators.... Total disgrace.
Absolutely disgraceful every member of the post office senior management should be charged with perverting the course of justice and I cannot understand why the Police didn’t query this or were they too kept in the dark about how many were involved.
ALL of those who are guilty indirectly OR directly proven to be ... who created this nightmare from start to today; who have done their utmost to avoid accountability; should be put on trial and for certain individuals etc,; in prison. Software and hardware suppliers likewise brought to trial AND made to contribute to the millions re pay outs to the victims.
"That these things can still happen in UK"? This s a new persecution not an old one. Lazy administration left to IT by those who are responsible for the job. IT control of our spending and social credits can only advance this destruction of justice.
Remember the Tories rewarded Paula with a seat on the board of the NHS and and OBE, they knew what was going on but turned a blind eye. If we want to talk about IT remember Dido Harding wasted £28billion on a track and trace system that didn’t work, Germany spent £23m on a fully working App.
That this has gone on for so long shows how useless the system of government has become and the Politicians and civil servants can no longer be trusted.
Yes, but why is JRM saying this now. It’s been known about for years. MPs are all trying to be on the right side now, but have done nothing for years. It’s also the lawyers and judges who have utterly failed and should suffer consequences. What the postmasters don’t need is more enquiries costing millions, by judges paid millions, taking years. It’s astounding that Jacob says he was briefly responsible and told his dept to put it right, yet doesn’t explain why it was not followed through. It all reflects so badly on our country and conclude that our institutions, including parliament and the courts, have become so self-serving and corrupt now that they are getting beyond the point where they can be reformed. Sadly, this country has turned away from honesty and service in its public life and institutions, and greed and unaccountability have filled the gap and become the norm.
The CEO of the Royal Mail at the time needs to be locked up…….. ofcourse what actually happened is she (CEO) retired with a huge pension and received an CBE.
The Royal Mail / Post Office CEO at the time that most of this happened was Adam Crozier. He is now running ITV - so you can be absolutely certain that this drama was only given the OK on the strict understanding that he was kept out of it. The excellent work done by MP Andrew Bridgen was also kept out of it - the Establishment hate Andrew Bridgen with a passion for raising the issue of excess deaths from Covid, cancelled operations, nursing home deaths, drug companies involvement etc etc.
Well my apoligies ive watched this ongong saga what a disgrace to innocent people so sad and im again sorry to you as im watching the inquiry crying as p.o. workers tell there storys.
How come the judges didn’t do there job properly they should have requested all the evidence and should have questioned the reliability of the software and if the post office could not provide any proof then the judge should have demanded the evidence before proceeding with the court case Software can have bugs and why did the post office take the machines away there should have been a independent company to do the checks to see if there were any bugs or problems with the system Postmasters were reporting problems with the system and if there were loads of problems being reported then why wasn’t the software brought into question if not why not
Of course the Post Office and its management are at the forefront of all this but where were the unions in all this? In my dealings with Royal Mail (which was the same company as the Post Office up until 2012) there was a militant attitude amongst the staff. This I feel was a reflection of the culture throughout. Lots of group think and towing the line going on.
What’s wrong is the fact that if she would of been black rather than Asian ect, that I bet you she wouldn’t of gone to prison after blm got on her side, just shows her innocence and the injustice that many asian people go through, but yet they stay quiet and calm, my hat goes off to these type of people and I wish the blm community would admire to be more like her, she is very Commendable
What I find concerning...how can Britain not compete with the Japanese Fujitsu company? Brown envelopes that's why. Don't we have the brains anymore.A lot of fiddling going on.
It was far more than an IT fault , it was the systematic distruction of multiple lives to protect the reputatation of the post office and it's flawed computer system , the cover up was imense and absolutely criminal , these post masters were sacrificed and the fact that senior people in the post office were never jailed over this is a national disgrace .
This has truly been one of the most awful miscarriages of justice I have ever watched, and they are still being betrayed. How brave these people have been and how sad they are still being wronged. 😢
Who from the Post Office was sacked, disciplined or even investigated over this travesty which has ruined lives and in some cases ended them???
No one, but i am sure there have been "lessons learned"
@@djmattblackDespicable and shocking..
Poor innocent lady !!! The way she was treated is appaling !!! They treated her like she has no dignity!!! It is disgusting!!! I am pleased that you have spoken about this publicly. I hope she will receive justice
It will keep happening when nobody is put in prison.
Hi Seema. You did well in your interview with JRM tonight. What happened to you and your family and other postmasters was a disgrace. I hope you can find peace.
And all those actually responsible given fat pensions and pay rises. Awful. Bloody awful.
Yes they all received proceeds of crime should beconfiscated back from them
Someone or some people must be put to jail, the shame and humiliation and torture these people went through by a cover up are life changing and no money can ever heal their wounds 😢. They did nothing wrong and the courts and the judge’s convicted them, the CPS must be fined and who put this case in must be put to jail, the clarks and judges who convicted these people must also be put to jail.
"Miscarriage of justice" isn't the word.
It was the deliberate and systematic perversion of its course.
Find the ones responsible, and put them all behind bars, and compensate those who have had wrong inflicted on them.
So why are the chiefs in charge who knew that some of these innocent sub postmasters were going to prison should be going to prison themselves. Why should they get away with cheating and lying? Makes my blood boil taking these peoples lives away.
I know parliament jeer Andrew Bridgen and your pathetic authoritarian government sacked him for speaking out for the vaccine injured but it was Andrew Bridgen was also the MP who spent years tirelessly working with the postal workers for justice. So well done Andrew Bridgen, keep up the fight for everyone victim of injustice parliament ignore and sweep under the carpet.
What a lovely, honest lady who needs compensation now. Bureaucracy in the way caused by government lawyers who are on a greasy train.
Jacob is such a gentleman.
In appearance and but not in his political views.
He wouldn’t let you whips his shoes
A. Why is Fujitsu not in the dock for this and B. Why does Fujitsu continue to get ANY contracts from UK companies or the Government?
They screwed up the London 999 system for the fire brigade and ambulance services and they caused 100% of the programming problems with the Post Office. Why are they still in business and why aren't they paying?
"Why does Fujitsu continue to get ANY contracts from UK companies or the Government?"
Because they are *BILLION* pound contracts and corporate "gifts" given to decision makers in government procurement go undeclared.
Prison reputation family’s lost most will never see the money a terrible tragedy how could all these people who did not know each other do this after years of service a disgrace,, pay up it will never repay them but they may help those who lost everything 😊
Criminal charges against those involved at the top must follow
Of course, if TALENTED software engineers had been employed to write the Post Office system, rather than the cheapest, then none of this would probably have happened!
Better software developers could have helped but all computer systems can have faults and the issue here was much broader than that. It was a failure of the post office investigation process and the justice system itself.
Who did the Royal Mail buy the new technology from, that they installed???
It wasn't Royal Mail.
It was Post Office
Two different companies
Fujitsu.
@@milo2324 is that like saying it's not the nhs it's the foundation trusts?
May God bless this Lady and all the postmasters who were wrongly prosecuted. Shame on the Post office and disgusting they they are still playing with these people's lives.
It hasn't stopped. They are still being persecuted. There is still a stigma attached, until they receive justice and compensation and damages.
The perpetrators are laughing all the way to the bank.
This is outrageous. These people should be given enough compensation so that they do not have to work a single day for the rest of their lives.
the fact it happened was prob to see how Easy it would be to convict an innocent via an purpouseful error
this is only going to get worse
the post office over the last 6 years has decayed heavly with sorting offices being lazier and lazier
Complete Neutral investigations are a necessity
So what's happened to the person or persons responsible for all of this?
Proud are you to have caused such misery and pain?
Shame and disgrace on you perpetrators.... Total disgrace.
All IT systems have bugs and hardware failures. Its how the management handle the problem and how quickly it is fixed.
The slow pay out adds insult to injury
Shouldn’t the post master general and the Universal Postal Union based in Bern,Switzerland have remedies to address this issue?
This case runs right through the rotten core of the so called ruling classes Too many conflicts of interest throughout
Absolutely disgraceful every member of the post office senior management should be charged with perverting the course of justice and I cannot understand why the Police didn’t query this or were they too kept in the dark about how many were involved.
This is what happens when computers fail .its the humans who are wrong and the government should PAY THESE PEOPLE IT WAS NOT THEIR FAULT
Hillsborough
Lloyds bank needs to be investigated on the ppi scandal which would make the post office scandal look tiny
Very true all the money they stole
The only thing this brave lady said wrong was calling Jacob common.
ALL of those who are guilty indirectly OR directly proven to be ... who created this nightmare from start to today; who have done their utmost to avoid accountability; should be put on trial and for certain individuals etc,; in prison. Software and hardware suppliers likewise brought to trial AND made to contribute to the millions re pay outs to the victims.
This is a rare moment in which Moggy has spoken sense.
"That these things can still happen in UK"? This s a new persecution not an old one. Lazy administration left to IT by those who are responsible for the job. IT control of our spending and social credits can only advance this destruction of justice.
These poor people, terrible this has gone on so long. Terrible.
Where the extra money gone? That post office collected from post masters, the huge sum.
Proof
Rogue
Government?
UA-cam made posting three words together very difficult due to shadow banning
And who 'owns' the Post Office? Yes the goverment, figures doesn't it......
But if he was, however briefly responsible for that department why did he not insist something was done?
Remember the Tories rewarded Paula with a seat on the board of the NHS and and OBE, they knew what was going on but turned a blind eye. If we want to talk about IT remember Dido Harding wasted £28billion on a track and trace system that didn’t work, Germany spent £23m on a fully working App.
That this has gone on for so long shows how useless the system of government has become and the Politicians and civil servants can no longer be trusted.
Rah. Trillion pounds for everyone yay
Yes, but why is JRM saying this now. It’s been known about for years. MPs are all trying to be on the right side now, but have done nothing for years. It’s also the lawyers and judges who have utterly failed and should suffer consequences. What the postmasters don’t need is more enquiries costing millions, by judges paid millions, taking years. It’s astounding that Jacob says he was briefly responsible and told his dept to put it right, yet doesn’t explain why it was not followed through. It all reflects so badly on our country and conclude that our institutions, including parliament and the courts, have become so self-serving and corrupt now that they are getting beyond the point where they can be reformed. Sadly, this country has turned away from honesty and service in its public life and institutions, and greed and unaccountability have filled the gap and become the norm.
The CEO of the Royal Mail at the time needs to be locked up…….. ofcourse what actually happened is she (CEO) retired with a huge pension and received an CBE.
The Royal Mail / Post Office CEO at the time that most of this happened was Adam Crozier. He is now running ITV - so you can be absolutely certain that this drama was only given the OK on the strict understanding that he was kept out of it. The excellent work done by MP Andrew Bridgen was also kept out of it - the Establishment hate Andrew Bridgen with a passion for raising the issue of excess deaths from Covid, cancelled operations, nursing home deaths, drug companies involvement etc etc.
"You" and me - JRM is not you and me. Seema, Jacob is firmly on the privileged authority side.
Fujitsu caused it and are still witholding evidence
Post office could have stopped it instead of lying
@@mariefallows9423 nobody should be let off
All these MPs jumping on the bandwagon this is the final nail in the coffin they are all tarred with the same brush
I was a member of the jury in this lady’s case at Guildford crown court, I feel awful now
Is this a joke..mr paul hodge.
@@gerrynicol3951 no not a joke
Well my apoligies ive watched this ongong saga what a disgrace to innocent people so sad and im again sorry to you as im watching the inquiry crying as p.o. workers tell there storys.
How come the judges didn’t do there job properly they should have requested all the evidence and should have questioned the reliability of the software and if the post office could not provide any proof then the judge should have demanded the evidence before proceeding with the court case
Software can have bugs and why did the post office take the machines away there should have been a independent company to do the checks to see if there were any bugs or problems with the system
Postmasters were reporting problems with the system and if there were loads of problems being reported then why wasn’t the software brought into question if not why not
Why would the government pay the victims? The Post office is a private Ltd company!
Because the government put them in jail
Of course the Post Office and its management are at the forefront of all this but where were the unions in all this? In my dealings with Royal Mail (which was the same company as the Post Office up until 2012) there was a militant attitude amongst the staff. This I feel was a reflection of the culture throughout. Lots of group think and towing the line going on.
Why did it take a tv show to stir the ruling class into action. . 2:54 2:55
Ay up Moggy where’s your best mate Dan Wootton lol😂
hes just posted a vid
Hiding jn Marting Brannings room.😂
@@kth6736 🤣🤣🤣🤣
🤣🤣🤣
What’s wrong is the fact that if she would of been black rather than Asian ect, that I bet you she wouldn’t of gone to prison after blm got on her side, just shows her innocence and the injustice that many asian people go through, but yet they stay quiet and calm, my hat goes off to these type of people and I wish the blm community would admire to be more like her, she is very Commendable
Oh and only now Mr J R-M leaps onto the bandwagon ... where were you when these people needed you!
This was 5 months ago
What I find concerning...how can Britain not compete with the Japanese Fujitsu company? Brown envelopes that's why. Don't we have the brains anymore.A lot of fiddling going on.
Jacob you and your government are cut front the exact same cloth, also it’s owned by you the government.
"Lies and cover up"…Mogg and the Tories will be very well versed in that 😐