FFXIV: Whats coming in Island Sanctuary in 6.4! - Known so far
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Houses are lost because they are NOT really instanced - so freeing unused plots is kinda justified. The Island Sanctuary IS instanced, so it can't really be justified to lose the items you placed there if you neglect it for too long.
My dream for Island Sanctuary: A vacation home! No garden or striking dummy is fine, it's for relaxation after all. But indoor like a medium plot (house) & outdoor like a mansion, it's MY island - space is not at a premium :)
Preferably with IS specific look, but possible to use other walls, roof and so on.
One can dream....
Still need back-end databases to permanently support it. Would not surprise me if this expansion of the Island is an early benefit of the hardware updates they done on the data centres. The NA one being the last needed. Back-end databases and support structure not sexy computing but it sure is very limiting if they are lacking or not originally built to support what you later want to do. :p
Hopefully we can put a mini atheryte on the island for a direct teleport.
I for one, hope we can make a secret hanger for the G-Warrior on our island!
Yes! we need this
that would be amazing ❤
Excuse me get out of my head!!!
Hidden tropical island Thunderbirds style hangar, yes.
My pasture is full of the rare animals. I hope they give us more space in the pasture because I don't want to have to release one of my existing rares for the new ones 😢
don't quote me on this but I'm sure they will raise the animal cap for the new rares.
I hope at some point they add a plot that will work as a housing plot in the sanctuary. Since it is instanced, not loaded unless the owner is INSIDE it and not shared, it would likely never need a demolishing timer either, so it'll serve like an apartment. The ONLY reason housing plots have a demolishing items is because they are a finite amount per server, to keep people from hoarding them. If they add actual instanced housing interiors for the island, I do hope they experiment with other layouts for the interior.
And yeah, that spriggan is the boss model of 'Ziggy' from the Antitower, and in Matoya's relict there is a Sonny of Ziggy with the same model. It is fairly cute but I wonder what it'll drop. Most likely the new area (or one of them) will be a mine inside the mountain.
This this this. I would even pay the gil a normal housing large would cost to get a housing sanctuary large. They're already most of the way there to making instanced housing a reality. Do it, CBU3.
Pretty sure the spriggan is the stardust boss model. The David Bowie reference from back in the day.
I can imagine 90 furniture slots is an easy thing, if you consider the housing areas are neighborhoods full of houses with outdoor furnishings, it’s a much higher load on the engine because the instance itself has limits. 🤔
They did say that they were looking to increase furniture slots in 7.0 as well, so maybe what Meoni is asking for will happen.
Meoni needs to make a show about shinnanigans that happen with the animals on the island. I would watch that 😅😂
I AM GOING TO HAVE SOOO SO MANY SPRIGGANS IN MY ENCLOSURE!!!! I LOVE MY ADORABLE ANXIETY RIDDEN FLOOF BABIES!!!!!!
Spriggan house exteriors and furniture should be a thing.
I do things on my Island a lot still because I find it so relaxing. So I'm glad we are getting more stuff :) thanks meoni for the info
I almost spewed coffee over the text for the meat market stall. As always your videos are delightful
To each their own I guess, me the Sanctuary Island was the answer to the housing crisis. I wanted an Ishgard house SO BADLY and got punted by the lottery 8 times in a row. I finally just gave up but fell in love with my island and found it more relaxing. What's more it suits my character to a T. Sunayo is a bit of a lone wolf who values her privacy and an island where she can go to for spear fishing, gathering, tending to her animal friends, gardening and the occasional construction project suits her well. That and items you can get make getting cowries worth farming, especially if you're an endgame gathering/crafting beast like myself. I can't tell you how many times the cowrie system saved me from splurging the usual 30 million + gil for a pentamelding system that seems custom made to make your life a living hell.😖😖😖
The island was such a non-answer that it's what made me quit for half a year. I didn't even touch it until last month, when I reluctantly started just to get the glams. If I wanted to play Farmville or Animal Crossing, I'd go play those. This just felt like such a pointless addition. You can't garden anything if use, you can't decorate...there was literally nothing to compare with housing. But obviously enough people seem to like it to keep the thing updated.
@@veryberry39 You quit playing for 6 months because you didn't like a piece of optional content? Weird.
@@OsirisNeits I'm assuming they meant since they couldn't get a house they didn't see any point in keeping their sub active. For some people certain optional content is all they sub for.....like me all i do in this game is pvp & ofc msq
Loved the little bit with the animals talking smack for not feeding them. It feels like this was gonna be the 'go back to' project for content lulls. It is in fact getting updates alongside the main content patches, which is way more than I suspected.
I still keep my island running tip top, but I'll admit I stop by once or twice a week, at most. I do it to reset my agenda, and just to chill.
I feel like that's the way the devs intended it--but I will definitely spend more time there once 6.4 outdoor decoration becomes a thing.
This is great news. It makes me far more excited for the new outdoor items from the Furnishing Design Contest. I'm hoping special furniture doesn't include letter boxes & miniature aetherytes. Also can't wait to put a Namazu Effigy outside of my Boiling bathhouse.
Good I have a whole retainer full plus outside FC and personal housing storage to place :)
personally i hope we get a cave in the big mountain for some gathering stuff, like a hidden oasis inside the mountain could be possible.
I really agree that I really want them to add more multiplayer mechanics to the island. I know why they don’t want other people to be able to help you gather (bot paradise), but feeding pets / watering crops would be fine, and I’d love activities. A fishing thing would be great! I’m also hoping that one of the new build spots can be beachfront somehow. If they could let us slap in a small house plot on one of thenlandmark spots eventually I would lock in my subscription for life and sign it with blood.
Hmm. The last round of housing seems to have done a pretty good job on Goblin. There are still 20+ smalls available in every housing district.
A good job, or everyone gave up trying?
The Wilds is everywhere outside the buildable part of the island.
As for new gathering areas, i suspect either a cavern system with things like new minerals, metals, fungi, etc, or possibly expanding the underwater gathering areas out further. Or perhaps a floating chunk of island wanders into range of our island since we can fly.
Adding this many external furnishings to IS feels like they're stress testing the item placement limit increase Yoshi P mentioned at PAX
Plus a lot of those items in the design contest look like they just wouldn't fit in a small plot but would work nicely on an island. Already half planning some ideas but trying to temper expectations since this is probably going to be broken and jank for the first patch or two.
I don't imagine housing items in the Island Sanctuary will elapse during inactivity because the only reason it's the case for houses is because of scarcity. Island Sanctuaries are unique to a player, so one guy filling up his housing sanctuary to the brim and then unsubbing doesn't take away from another person who wants to do the same.
And yeah, I really, really, really hope they're pulling the plug and gradually turning island sanctuary into instanced housing, including interiors. There's enough space there to accommodate a large house if they were to integrate it, and it would fix the housing crisis problem forever. Housing could finally just be a fun opt-in experience for everyone rather than this lottery that makes you cross your fingers week after week or chains you to the game when you don't feel like playing it. They've now given everybody who finished Endwalker their own personal island zone (that they are expanding in 6.4) that is instanced and specific to a person and able to save changes made to it. They're basically beyond 80% there on what is required for Instanced Housing. The big hurdle has been cleared. It would be a supreme waste of development potential if they now said "uh, nope, we're not going to go all the way, we're sticking with this old housing system that makes most people unhappy."
If anything comes from Island Sanctuary, I hope it's that, at the very least.
On the other hand, there's the other side of the coin which is actual Island Sanctuary-specific activities, and I feel like rather than create more gathering activities, they should try to add things that are more like GATEs from the Golden Saucer. Just pure fun ways to spend time with rewards if you keep doing it.
Outdoor housing items are a much welcomed step in the right direction! I get that the spirit of Island Sanctuary is not to simply have instanced housing, but 'underutilized' feels like an appropriate description, with the understanding that for all we know it's still in its infancy. As it is, your friends can't lend a hand at the island, and the ability to make it feel unique is very limited. There's little reason to visit someone else's island, and this is an MMO. When this game mode was little more than a promise, I had wishfully speculated a homestead plot that would allow you to build a house. If they could expand on the hut, that would be amazing. Getting the opportunity to use outdoor furnishing items in the Sanctuary? It's going to make outdoor items very popular, where perhaps the lack of lot capacity heretofore left a lot of fantastic furnishings lost in the shuffle.
Beautifully presented!!
I'm interested in seeing what the full scope of IS ends up being. I'm just hoping that IS doesn't end up being another bit of content that gets essentially abandoned after a single attempt/expansion worth of development. In some ways it feels like this update will go a decent way towards what IS could/should have been in the beginning customization wise. Now we just need more interactive elements (like fishing, maybe more optional involved gathering/crafting methods to boost efficiency, interacting with the minions/animals we have, etc.). Oh, and the ability to invite NPCs to visit would be cool too. Nothing that would fundamentally change the concept and function of IS, but things that would make it more involved and appealing for those who enjoy the idea
Those poor animals 😢
I soon as I login, I always feed the animals and water the garden. ❤
I'm just about to hit 400k Cowries😅
Definitely lots of potential the devs can expand from Island Sanctuary
Being able to put a small house on the island would stop the housing crisis and allow everyone to enjoy making something their own.
Island Sanctuary is one of the few things i actually kept up on, I maxed on every standard material and still trying to max the produce. Trying to max out the leavings/rare mat but that'll take a bit.
That note at the end really is a big one - working together on your island.
I enjoy chill solo content, but gathering with frens would make the grind nicer. Especially if them helping on my island gives them rewards too, and same for me when I would help them.
5:56 --- I dont wanna hear it -.- There is NO housing crisis. Ever since I moved to one of the new wards, it took weeks (!) for it to fill. And STILL there is a free plot! I dont care if its the Goblet, there is a free house and nobody cares. Get your priorities straight -.-
Putting down outdoor furnishings is sure to be fun... now they need to raise the number of players that can enter the island. I can see how these can turn into large scale ingame event locations :D
My goblet ward on Halicarnassis is so very empty.
@@hmayonay Proves my point... and I'm on Shiva, which counts as full server :(
Wish they'd add Island Sanctuary (and equally so, Eureka, Daidem, Bozja, and the deep-dungeons) to Duty Finder.
I only go to the Island about once a day, because it requires me to teleport like three times to get there, and removes me from whatever I was doing.
Whereas I often do chocobo races, battlehall triple triad, and verminion while waiting for GP to regen, because in-and-out in an instant.
It's like "Waaa, no one's doing the old stuff". Yeah because you've hidden the entrance at the ass-end of nowhere.
My guess is the furnishings on the island will be there forever, the only reason it happens with housing is so players can get a house, but the island is our own and will never belong to someone else. Also the wilds is an area already, its where you can send your granaries out to get things like island palm logs, I think they are just gonna add new mats to it.
100% sure it won't disappear when you stop your sub, since the entire area is instanced it will cost basically no server load, therefore the limit is really high too
I’d love to gather crystals in caves with G Warrior tbh, also it’s fun to see how many others thought of the mecha in these comments :D
man, we are really feeling the content drought this cycle. It feels worse than others for some reason. And I'm just a trial player and I still feel it.
The problem is if you have 90 outdoor furniture per house, that a lot of assets to load when you go in the housing wards.
Would love a tractor mount that can help gather crops faster. Also to build a house
cackling at the voiced animals kjfsjkg yeahhh i havent touched my island in months >_> surely i'll be in the mood to work on it,, eventualllyy
I was thinking the new place would be under the mountain, since it's taking up a significant chunk of the island without providing much but-now that I think about it-they could expand it as well to give us space for the housing items. I was gonna say they need to if they want to add more construction plots, but those will likely be on the elevated part on the east side of the hideaway with the giant rocks sitting on it.
I really don't understand why we don't have instanced housing still. Like, 90 slots for outdoor furnishings, we have 40 minions running around, 20 specific (named) animals and crops with conditions, and separate inventory. Apartments supposedly is infinite in supply because they can just populate them when needed. Just do it already. I don't expect there to be a "go in there every X days" thing like houses, since apartments aren't like that, and it's not like there are consequences for neglecting your island right now.
I would love to see mount races as part of the island sanctuary.
A minigame with obstacles set up where you can race around the island with friends or maybe NPCs. There's certainly enough open areas to make it a possibility.
Hory Shet, Ziggy on the island :D
I'll be glad when we've moved past this damn island and I don't have to collect sticks and rocks anymore. But at least they're finally giving us a place to put all the outdoor furnishings we're not allowed to store anywhere except on retainers. >
My probs with island sanctuary is the crafting resources, almost anything you make, ends up required you to go out and pick it manually, it doesn't look much, but 3 item x 3 slot x 6 time slot x 7 days = 378 items.
At times I'm ok with it, but picking 378x is quite a lot for the week. you can pick something, but it's one by one. maybe you can have better tools where you got 2 instead. even if you only need 1 per item, 3 slot, 6 time slot, 7 days = 126. this became a chore
can I have a craft with lower yield but kind of perpetually doable without needing me to go and pick some stuff up myself. sure I have like 800 tomatoes to make this 1 thing, but to make this one thing you need to get another thing outside from tomatoes, which will run out next week, so you have to make something else. Every single thing you can craft needs something outside things you can grow.
Just hope sending mammet for exploration you can choose which ingredients to get, instead of giving me stones that I have 900+ of and don't know where to use it.
I can't wait to see more of this. I would love to have that clocktower were one of my windmills is just because right now I have two of them up with one right above the little workshop village and the other by my pastor or maybe depending on what we get I may keep my two windmills & just put the clocktower in a different spot
Not to say there isn't a housing crisis it's alot due to the fact that players refuse to transfer to new data centers that actually need players. SE has already delivered. If you really want a house there's still tons available. It's really not a issue anymore. But then again people will always complain. I approve of the island update. Looks promising and I'm 😊 excited!
Island Labor Camp morel like it. They really should have developed different paths of island development and designs for different people. Like earning currency through security (fighting) contracts instead of breaking stones.
I don't feel this is the same situation. They don't need to refund or return items from apartments or FC rooms after a certain time. This, in my mind, is the same concept. The items probably can remain there indefinitely if you take a break from the game. I honestly don't see the HOUSING issue everyone claims is an issue anymore. I've seen most servers have houses available nearly all the time now. They are constantly adding new wards which slowly adds more and more. And to be honest, not everyone wants a house because they have to remain subbed nearly ALL the time. Just my two cents on the issue you brought up at the end. Thanks for all your wonderful content on a game that I have grown to love and enjoy so much!
new gathering area inside the island as a mind shaft maybe
Honestly I respectfully disagree from what I've seen re housing crisis. At least on Odin, where I am, there are still empty plots in individual wards which I feel is the biggest single metric.
With regard to timers getting rid of outdoor furnishings on IS, I really dont think that will be the case. The only reason they do this for housing is because of limits on house numbers. Remove that issue and I'm not sure there's a reason to time restrict it.
One change they've already made to islands is adding the notification when someone visits, which I'm finding nice.
ETA- i'd really like them to allow us to help on friends islands actually, I'd love to be able to pop to my wife's and say, grab her some produce or water her crops.
I'm definitely hyped for more island sanctuary upgrades. Fishing is the number one thing I hope they'll incorporate at some point. And even though they told us from the outset it's not intended as a substitute for housing, I hope they go back on that at some point. Houses are just prohibitively expensive for many players, and a lot of players buy up multiple houses, leaving a lack of available houses for people. This would be a great alternative to that. I also wish they'd make it more like Animal Crossing. Going back to the island with each patch is fun, but I, too, abandon my island once I've done everything. If they're incorporate things we could do between patches, that would keep me engaged with it more consistently.
Happy that I can decorate the island but I kinda wanted to be able to change the look. Can I have a candy themed house there?
I greatly appreciate the animal impressions.
Housing honestly doesn't seem that bad to me anymore? 7 of my friends and I were all able to buy houses a couple months ago on our first try with no competition- we were the only people who put in on the lots and several of the lots in the neighborhood didn't have anyone at all when the sale period ended. Another friend recently bought a house in the same neighborhood too after demolition happened on a few of them. The competition seems almost nonexistent at the moment.
edit: in our cases, this was 2 mediums and the rest smalls.
I still want a personal house on the sanctuary. Outdoor housing items are a step in the right direction, but I really thought I would get a house too. (Also, It can be really hard to find an apartment when you live on a congested world like me so that's not a good alternative)
Neglect...that's definitely the word.
Outdoor furnishings piqued my interest. I don't own a house only an apartment, so I've been collecting a few outdoor furnishings through the various events, and now it seems that I can finally use them.
I am taking a break from the game except for the fact that I still log in to do my island. Can't wait to get Ziggy!!
Yes! My island is totally judging me too! LOL!
When is Meoni going to be hosting the fishing tournament with a tea party in the evening?
i'd assume the reason is on island you only render one patch of 90, while housing imagine how many patches of 90 needs to be rendered
I just stopped pumping my island as work, leveling, rp, social events, biking.
split my time too much up.
2- more jobs to go!
Im running my island 2twise in month, i cant stop feeding sheeps
Gimme a house on my island to decorate, I'm without other seeing it, i can just invite whoever i want
This is great and all, wonderful if fact, but they need to fix that glitch that kicks ppl off *_their own island_* if they want to ppl to treat this like an actual alternative to housing. It all feels like an "Island Timeshare", srsly wtf
I am of the opinion they should ignore continuity and just give the game a level 15 quest that lets people travel to your island. The fact that you need to have actually earned your own island to visit other islands makes it hard to just invite people to check your place.
Edit : I looked it up and you can now visit someone after you finish ultimate weapon. originally that wasn't the case from what I remember. Just leaving this here so people who don't can now know. PS: I think the owner needs to be on or you can't visit.
You don't need to own an island to visit. I haven't done Endwalker but I did Heavensward when I was able to do some kind of quest to visit my friend's island. I think the unlock is in Idyllshire. (Currently in Shaddowbringers)
I think you can visit people's islands at like level 40. I know for sure you don't need to be in end game because my friend could visit me on her alt when she was still in ARR
They should allow us to put a house on the island to solve the housing crisis. Make the housing districts fc only.
You should make a new top ten mounts list since they added so much !!
Oh man I am going to spend so much gil on outdoor items!
i heard we are getting more space on our houses inside and outside is it true
My seed and ore stocks are depleting because the granaries just dont bring back enough, or any at all since the last update. I have no interest in sitting around farming items now, because I have all the rewards... They really need to balance the time vs rewards aspect of it, or like you said, events to draw you back to the island... I mean it's neat, but it's just kinda.. there...
LOL. the sheep made me laugh so hard
My crops AND my animals are ALL dead.
Somehow I feel like Island Sanctuary released unfinished, with just the barebones level of functionality, only to be spoonfed a feature or two every few months. And interestingly enough, that's exactly what happened with the latest Animal Crossing game, which had a very high success due to the global lockdowns, so maybe they thought they could afford releasing it in that state given that precedent.
Having outdoor furnishing is an important step, but in the end just being able to decorate your lifeless daily grind interface isn't going to be enough. Maybe it was on this channel that I made that comment a few months back, but imo the island really is missing a new and improved squadron feature, where you could recruit sidequest npcs from around the world, that would be good and bad at certain things, to employ at your island instead of having those boring robots for everything.
Part of good design is making all the mechanics of your game interact, make one feed the others and vice versa, if you take all the ingredients we have available in the game you can imagine pretty much anything, like for example setting up a triple triad arena where you can battle your npcs, or even assign them decks for people to come and challenge them like a pokemon gym, there could be tons of applications.
I mean, I think you're right, though? I think what we were offered in 6.2 was the groundwork, being mostly the foundation for what they will be adding on top. If you boil current Island Sanctuaries down, they're basically gathering minigames.
Did we really need an instanced island zone unique to every player to accommodate that? No, they could've just freed up a patch in Labyrinthos if that was the extent of what they wanted to do with the system. I like to hope that they've far more grandiose things planned, including of course instanced housing. (since the system is already most of the way there)
It’s frustrating that gardening will still be a privilege for those lucky enough to own plots
Ziggy (Stardust__________________________________)
I just hope there's an easier way to level than hurting my fingers doing macro afk farming. But we all know it's back to that for another set of levels.
Those poor animals. You're a monster. 😂
i heard everyones sanctuarys pretty much end up looking the same.. that true?
Bro ngl I've not fed my animals in months, they about to eat me next time I go there at this rate
If they can give everyone 90 slots on island sanctuary, then they could have just made apartments better. This just seems to spit in the face of content already in the game.
I assume a cave like harvest moon 😂
If SE gms done there job and took houses away from autoclickers the housing situation might be different
Island Sanctuary's been a bust so far. Was expecting so much more. No fishing was a particular disappointment
Sanctuary is some of the worst and laziest content that ffxiv has ever released
sadly I dont care at all for the islands it's kinda a waste of time. I want the boke but noooo
What housing crisis? There are tons of available small houses on my server. People are just too picky.
"works on my machine"
@@Zakjuh What's your point?
I hate to say it, but I hope Island Sanctuary gets shelved after this patch. It was very much a failure in a lot of ways from how AWFUL the gathering is. The island being "static" with NOTHING to do (much like all of Endwalkers expansion so far and were almost halfway through). Whole thing is tedious and its a "I wanna be done as soon as I get in here" piece of content.