I'm in love with the sapphire nitro+, I would run on the quiet bios and undervolt it to run in my 650 W Gold Seasonic PSU, it's only more 40 W than my 3060 ti, I have a 65 W ryzen 5600x, that gives me margin vs a 120 W CPU.
Great review ... I believe that the main competitor is the RX 6900 XT (prices going down) with a small premium +50 u can get better performance and longevity in 2K and 4K
Fun fact: XFX 7800xt Merc is not correctly specified in terms of dimensions on the website... It's about 5mm to 10mm longer depending on how you measure it, so if you are going to have a case with close GPU clearance, it might not fit...
literally had to use plyers to make it fit, closer to 340-350mm, and my case has a max around 330. Hoping that the Merc 319 is the only misadvertised card regarding size! The LED XFX logo burned out after flickering sporadically for a week or so. So now, stuck between going for the led-less Qick, or waiting for BF to maybe squeeze a 7900XT 🤔
No-one mentions the fact you cannot fit ANY 7800XT to an MATX board because anything over two slots covers the System case connectors which are very tall and wont allow the card to sit home in the PCIE slot.
got a nitro+ 7800xt from microcenter 3 days ago but im not getting the performance i see people getting on youtube :( i know its not a bottleneck because i have 16gb of ddr5 ram and a ryzen 5 7600... could someone please help me assess the problem?
Not sure why Amd ship gpus with voltage cranked all the way up , would love to see results of undervolted rx7800xt . My rx6600xt uses 165 watts at factory 1150Mv , i undervolted it to 1050Mv and Oc ed vram by 15% , gpus only uses 125 watts max , also i get 8% better performance. Rx-7800xt is 265 watts , undervolt it can bring down 30 watts and perform better , love to see results .
great review. my view is that if the lower heat doesn't generate higher performance, that is not a selling point. so the nitro+ failed with its higher price.
Thank you very much for this great comparison and tech talk!! It's very helpful, because i trust your voice since your highly recommended Club 3D Royal King R9 7950 back in the days! The best card, i ever had. Did run cool on air with a whopping 20% more performance due to the overclock, like in your tests 🤩🙏 Now sitting on a 1080ti it's hard to decide between 7800xt XFX or the Nitro, but i'm leaning a bit towards Sapphire.
I've got XFX RX 7800 XT and it's one of the coolest cards I've ever own - with my more aggressive fan curve my temps are around 50 for the core and around 70 for the hotspot.
@@ab9677 Nice! I went for the Asrock Phantom Gaming. Was so good in other tests and when i first saw her, i knew, i had to get this design into my case :D Sounds like you got a great slice of silicon right there!
I just got the nitro+ and I gotta say, I'm amazed by how quiet that card is. Never seen the fans go above like 30% (around 1200 or so RPM) with the performance BIOS and auto OC. I have no idea why there is a silent BIOS, is that when you just don't want to run the fans at all or something?
Question - your graphs show Sapphire 7800XT Nitro... but the box you've also shown the 'PURE' variant - assuming this card is still embargoed enough you're not allowed to share performance results?
Thankyou Tom! I honestly dont know which i like more. I love the look of the nitro and the merc. I think id go for the merc. i have a 7900xt MBA, i love the look of it too. It reminds me of the batmobile.
Hello there! Thanks for the great video. I really can't find an answer for my question or a picture of the Xfx 7800 XT Quick 319. Please, as you have already build the PC, does the logo XFX on the GPU quick 319 7800 XT is an RGB that light up like in the Merc version or not ? Thanks 🙏🙏🙏
Great video, thank you for so thoroughly testing things. I just built my newest system around an RX 6800 PowerColor Fighter ( which sadly died a week after the first POST for reasons I'll never understand) so I ended up replacing it with an XFX QICK 7700XT 12Gb Black Edition. I just ordered it this morning and was a bit worried that I'd made the wrong choice, kicking myself as I watched video after video saying to just go up to the 7800. Yours was the first video to show me a lot of 1080p data (which is where I game, I use a TV as a monitor lol) ((*Gamers collective horrified gasp inserted here*)) and I think that though it might not future-proof me, it will definitely do. Ps. Subbed about halfway through when I saw how much you cared about your craft, but if I could do it twice after seeing your channel name, I would have anyway, that's just punny. (If I may)
Cool, those are the exact cards that I'm interested in, mostly I'm interested in pure vs nitro+ comparison, looking heavily for Pure because of planning all white/touch red all AMD build for a while now
Same price? Or rx6950xt cost more? Rx7800xt be better pick , better everything , uses less power by 100 watts , dual AV1 encoder, HYPR rx antilag+ only works on rx7000 series , beats 6950xt on ray tracing . Undervolt it and you will get 10 % more performance and use 50 watts less . Just get at $500.00 with free game while it's available, I ve feeling prices will go up from here .
In terms of components, the 7800xt is plainly a RDNA3 version of the 6800, not the xt. So it's still pricier than it should be. In these results there are some oddities between the Merc and Nitro at 1080p. Would be good to re-run a couple to see if they replicate. Though the results could also be due to the Merc allowing a higher power draw that becomes evident at high refresh rates. If I were to go for a 7800xt, these are the cards that would be on the shortlist. Will be interesting to see what Powercolor come up with too.
580 USD (the launch MSRP of the 6800), is equivalent to about 688 USD today. If you adjust for inflation, the 7800 XT MSRP is lower than the 6700 XT's launch MSRP. 480 USD is equivalent to about 540 USD today, so the 7800 XT is clearly closest to the 6700 XT, or even the 6700 non XT, in terms of pricing. Maybe AMD was hoping that it was going to perform fast enough to be a 6800 successor, but that clearly didn't happen. The 7800 XT is around 43% faster than the 6700 XT, with 33% more vram, better quality coolers on most models, and various other features and improvements, so we're definitely still getting some significant gains in value from one generation to the next. Likely AMD was originally planning to launch the 6700 XT with a lower MSRP, likely very close to what the 7800 XT's MSRP is today after adjusting for inflation. Like it or not, inflation has been a lot higher than normal over the past three years, and our money isn't worth as much as it used to be. AMD isn't completely blameless for that, but they are definitely not primarily to blame for inflation.
@@syncmonism You are suggesting that the surge in prices from the GPU shortage, crypto mining and a very rare pandemic become the baseline for all prices in future. I'm suggesting that should not be.
I think they are good cards at a decent price, just the names shouldn't have been XT otherwise they are decent just a little surprised the 7800XT fell just short in some games on DXR compared to the 6800XT however the 7k range is worth buying due to the HypR RX so I'm hoping between now and spring time I'll be able to save enough for a 7900XTX and wait for the 9k+ series for the next upgrade. overall good cards for the midrange hard imho for anyone buying the midrange to really want nvidia outside of brand loyalty unless going for the higher end. I swear by sapphire when it comes to AMD cards never owned a different brand when using amd despite my current gpu they are just very good even my 6800XT nitro + has the argb cable i just don't have a argb mobo atm like they say if it's not broken don't fix it, only thing i'd say is rgb on the card i have i wish them settings were built into the amd driver rather than the sapphire app, thou saying that you can overclock in the app and set it as a bios setting so pretty useful in other ways. xfx have come a ways since with these newer coolers they are rather slick and sleek my only thoughts on them is i'm not overly keen on the silver would like to see other colour versions of the same cooler shroud.
I bought the QIK319 and it ended up having coil whine so I got the MERC and that had coil whine as well. At this point not sure if I should try a 4070 or just deal with the coil whine
Good work, Tom! Sadly, it feels a bit like a price cut to the 6800 XT disguised as a new sku... After 3 years, I'd have liked to see a faster card in the 7800 XT.
@@joa4613 Not when you can still go out and get a 6800Xt cheaper... AIB's of the 7800XT are going to mostly be at least about $550 or so, and you can grab a new 6800XT right now for like $475.
@@AMDRyzenEnthusiastGroup i thinks its worth it spending a little bit more for a rdna 3 since it supports hyperx and will work better with amd frame generation so its more future proof
@@AMDRyzenEnthusiastGroupgot the Merc 7800Xt and it has a 4 year limited warranty. Sure I can find a used card but this will last a while coming from an old gtx 1080...
@@joa4613 The 6000 series supports frame gen too, when FSR 3 launches in a few months. I honestly can't believe that some people think this is a good deal.
just replaced my rtx3060ti with rx7800xt, its a way better card, better colours twice the fps in most games, and super quiet even under heavy load, my first amd card since the day of agp. and this card fitted my budget perfectly.
Pleasant surprise on the low temps, definitely be interested to see how far they can get pushed. Too bad it’s not the old days anymore and everything is software locked down.
i feel like the most lucky man in the world becuase during a black friday sale i actually got the 7800 xt sapphire nitro+ for not $660, not $450, not even $300. $209.99. Yeah. crazy price drop and it only lasted for the day. it comes from december 18th - december 28th so i still got a while to wait but i cannot believe i snagged that. i was not lucky it wasnt necessarily a scam (the sale was real) but the anonymous NEW seller was a scammer. so out of all the people amazon couldve chosen for me to get it by, it had to be an anonymous NEW seller who just so happened to be a scammer. worst luck in the world lmao
Just to mention,... you're saying that the 7000 series draws less power then the 6000 series, but the graphs show this is only true for the 7800xt vs the 6800xt. Not for the 7700xt. It draws more then the 6700xt. For the rest good review though, thanks!
Agreed. They don't consume less power when looked at on a components comparison basis. The 7800xt, with a component set equivalent to a 6800 non-XT actually consumes more power. With that it outperforms the 6800 significantly, but it's that comparison of performance to components to wattage that shows whether the design is or isn't more efficient.
Returned a Merc 6800xt and was hoping the 7800xt would be at least 10% better. Arghh!! @!^%&* When the NDA embargo was lifted, I was disappointed with 7800xt performance. Now I cannot find either one for sale - lol
It's kinda funny you know, the ATi RX 6000 Reference Models were stunning works of art with all-metal shrouds and a striking contrast between the black and silver sections. The RX 7000 Reference Models are really basic and bland-looking by comparison. They have become the epitomy of "meh". MY RX 6800 XT is an ATi Reference Model which was the ONLY model RX 6800 XT that I wanted. I was literally DROOLING when I first saw the pictures of it but my RX 7900 XTX is an ASRock Phantom Gaming OC model. I got it open-box for over $200 off but the Phantom Gaming OC and the Red Devil OC were the two that caught my eye so it was a very happy coincidence.
my asus rog stix 3070 ti oc gamer die i sill have warranty untill september -17- 2021 asus is playing games i never open the vidio card only gaming ill get, sapphire nitro 7800xt and put it on my 5800 3d .
The 7800 XT naming is dumb. It's a 6700 XT successor, not a 6800 XT successor, though the naming isn't ultimately that big of an issue. It's using a mid-sized GPU, and it's launching at a similar MSRP to what the 6700 XT launched at. 500 USD today is equivalent to around 440 USD two and a half years ago, when the 6700 XT first launched at 480 USD, and the 7800 XT is about 43% faster than the 6700 XT. It's nothing new for previous gen graphics cards to be heavily discounted in price before many of the next gen cards replace them, and for them to have equal or better performance per dollar at those prices, yet many people are arguing things like "the 7800 XT offers little to no improvement in value per dollar over the previous generation", as if AMD is supposed to give us a major improvement in value per dollar over CURRENT pricing for the already heavily discounted 6800 XT (and other various heavily discounted 6000 series cards). Do you need to like the price of the 7800 XT? No. It sucks that average incomes haven't kept pace with inflation, and you could argue that AMD does share some degree of blame for that, though certainly not most of the blame. If 500 is still too expensive for you, then that sucks, because the 7700 XT is not worth considering at current pricing (even though it is fairly competitive against Nvidia alternatives). The 6700 XT is currently a potentially very good option at 330 USD, but stock will probably mostly run out long before the next generation comes out, and the 7700 XT is simply too close in manufacturing cost to the 7800 XT for AMD to ever want to give us a genuinely good deal on them. AMD definitely left a big gap between the 7600 (which is itself still over-priced at most retailers), and the 7800 XT, basically forcing people to buy previous gen, or used cards, if they want a good value lower-mid-range or upper-low-end graphics card, and Nvidia has also basically done the same thing, by offering poor value for everything other than the RTX 4070 (and the 4090 is arguably a good value as well, at least as far as ultra high-end cards go, but it's simply not going to be worth buying for the vast majority of gamers).
You never heard of undervolting your GPU ? It's must dude , amd software is great , couple clicks and you get better performance and GPU uses 50 to 30 watts less , temps are lower by 10 degrees, why not ?
@@skywalker1991 it didn't do much, -0.05V for 5°C different and still has annoying fan whine, manually tweaking your GPU shouldn't be a requirement, that's like saying "it's suck at stock but it's a good car if you tune the ECU". Some AIB models like the powercolor hellhound cost the same with much better cooling performance, so why not ? 🤣
Unfortunately for AMD the claimed power savings of the 7800XT over the 6800XT is false imo, not fanboying, but the fact is the 7800XT is really 6800 in terms of Cores, ROPs etc with a higher spec’d name just thrown in for sales which brings the power draw down. The fact is thou the 7800XT is a more refined 6800 with better raster performance and better Ray Tracing performance. I feel it’s more of a RDNA2.5 and not necessarily 3.0 this generation. The pricing of the 7800(XT) is fair imo and the 7700XT should be around $379 to make sense.
I've got an XFX RX7900XT merc 310 black and I'm really unhappy with it. It's too long (with the poorly designed support bracket) for most cases and it runs too hot. 105c hotspot with just regular gaming. I won't buy another XFX card after this one. No, it's not defective, XFX says that it's designed to peak at those temps for the hotspot. I've got an ASROC RX6700XT in another system that I'm far more happy with. Lesson learned.
Why can't you undervolt it , most cards ships with voltage cranked up to max , just unnecessary. Each GPU is different , so who knows you lower voltage by 100Mv and temps goes down by 15 degrees, mine did . Also I get 8% better performance, uses less watts , never had a single crash , Try it with and software it's supereasy
@@skywalker1991 Tried. Won't undervolt. It's the factory overclocked version with +50watt power limit. It doesn't seem to like the undervolt for some reason.
Last Gen's 6800 (and up) AMD GPUs & the new 7000 series have serious power issues @ video playback (youtube, Netflix, video players etc.) 40+ W is stupidly HIGH & meaningless... and while the previous 6700 XT consumes only 16W, the new 7700 XT doubles that power draw with a whooping 33W on "video playback" AMD should solve that power issue @ video playback at least in the next 8000 series. - No, I'm NOT UpGrading. I'll stay with RX 6700XT until the next Gen.
If someone needed to upgrade from a way older card then yours, would you recommend the 6700xt over the 7700xt just because the 7700xt draws more power? Because in starfield, the 7700xt looks way better then the 6700xt. Only problem is it draws more power.
@@phil9079 it depends on your choice. If u're NOT a hardcore gamer, using your system both for work/light gaming RX 6700XT is very much preferable & it's much cheaper too. Otherwise 7700 XT is a big leap forward in terms of FPS...
The sapphire nitro 7800xt is an absolute beast. So happy with my purchase, not to mention it was 200NZD cheaper than the 4070. Beautiful card
I JUST bought it. Upgraded the whole PC yesterday
Entre la nitro y la merc cuál recomiendas
@@LuisMorales-tz4xi I’d say the Nitro: runs a lot cooler, quieter & the gpu clocks can be pushed a bit more
Thank you for doing all the testing on the cards for us. :)
I'm in love with the sapphire nitro+, I would run on the quiet bios and undervolt it to run in my 650 W Gold Seasonic PSU, it's only more 40 W than my 3060 ti, I have a 65 W ryzen 5600x, that gives me margin vs a 120 W CPU.
what your settings?
Great review ... I believe that the main competitor is the RX 6900 XT (prices going down) with a small premium +50 u can get better performance and longevity in 2K and 4K
Fun fact: XFX 7800xt Merc is not correctly specified in terms of dimensions on the website... It's about 5mm to 10mm longer depending on how you measure it, so if you are going to have a case with close GPU clearance, it might not fit...
literally had to use plyers to make it fit, closer to 340-350mm, and my case has a max around 330. Hoping that the Merc 319 is the only misadvertised card regarding size!
The LED XFX logo burned out after flickering sporadically for a week or so. So now, stuck between going for the led-less Qick, or waiting for BF to maybe squeeze a 7900XT 🤔
No-one mentions the fact you cannot fit ANY 7800XT to an MATX board because anything over two slots covers the System case connectors which are very tall and wont allow the card to sit home in the PCIE slot.
I just did with a 326mm xfx merc 7800xt
got a nitro+ 7800xt from microcenter 3 days ago but im not getting the performance i see people getting on youtube :( i know its not a bottleneck because i have 16gb of ddr5 ram and a ryzen 5 7600... could someone please help me assess the problem?
Hope it gets better ❤
Not sure why Amd ship gpus with voltage cranked all the way up , would love to see results of undervolted rx7800xt .
My rx6600xt uses 165 watts at factory 1150Mv , i undervolted it to 1050Mv and Oc ed vram by 15% , gpus only uses 125 watts max , also i get 8% better performance.
Rx-7800xt is 265 watts , undervolt it can bring down 30 watts and perform better , love to see results .
great review. my view is that if the lower heat doesn't generate higher performance, that is not a selling point. so the nitro+ failed with its higher price.
Thank you very much for this great comparison and tech talk!! It's very helpful, because i trust your voice since your highly recommended Club 3D Royal King R9 7950 back in the days! The best card, i ever had. Did run cool on air with a whopping 20% more performance due to the overclock, like in your tests 🤩🙏 Now sitting on a 1080ti it's hard to decide between 7800xt XFX or the Nitro, but i'm leaning a bit towards Sapphire.
I've got XFX RX 7800 XT and it's one of the coolest cards I've ever own - with my more aggressive fan curve my temps are around 50 for the core and around 70 for the hotspot.
@@ab9677 Nice! I went for the Asrock Phantom Gaming. Was so good in other tests and when i first saw her, i knew, i had to get this design into my case :D Sounds like you got a great slice of silicon right there!
My Nitro+ went to 68C stock... cooler QC seems to be terrible, some coolers have terrible contact increasing temps by 15-20C.
I just got the nitro+ and I gotta say, I'm amazed by how quiet that card is. Never seen the fans go above like 30% (around 1200 or so RPM) with the performance BIOS and auto OC. I have no idea why there is a silent BIOS, is that when you just don't want to run the fans at all or something?
Yes. Don't run under certain temperature. Like under 50°C no fans
so what would the dual fans temps compare to the triple ones? planning buying the sapphire 7800xt cheapest one. thanks
Question - your graphs show Sapphire 7800XT Nitro... but the box you've also shown the 'PURE' variant - assuming this card is still embargoed enough you're not allowed to share performance results?
He explained that the Pure model hadn't been tested at the time of recording, but would be reviewed in future.
Thankyou Tom! I honestly dont know which i like more. I love the look of the nitro and the merc. I think id go for the merc. i have a 7900xt MBA, i love the look of it too. It reminds me of the batmobile.
my friend you are sponsored by xfx? wher is test xfx vs nitro?
I've been considering getting the XFX MERC319 Radeon RX 7800 XT but I am wondering if its possible to turn off the white LED on the logo?
did you ever find way or how to chnage it
Should I connect this 7800xt with two separate PCIe cables or one ?
If the RX 7800 XT had about the same power consumption as the competition, it would be a no brainer for me.
Hello there! Thanks for the great video. I really can't find an answer for my question or a picture of the Xfx 7800 XT Quick 319. Please, as you have already build the PC, does the logo XFX on the GPU quick 319 7800 XT is an RGB that light up like in the Merc version or not ? Thanks 🙏🙏🙏
Não tem rgb ela
Great video, thank you for so thoroughly testing things. I just built my newest system around an RX 6800 PowerColor Fighter ( which sadly died a week after the first POST for reasons I'll never understand) so I ended up replacing it with an XFX QICK 7700XT 12Gb Black Edition. I just ordered it this morning and was a bit worried that I'd made the wrong choice, kicking myself as I watched video after video saying to just go up to the 7800. Yours was the first video to show me a lot of 1080p data (which is where I game, I use a TV as a monitor lol) ((*Gamers collective horrified gasp inserted here*)) and I think that though it might not future-proof me, it will definitely do.
Ps. Subbed about halfway through when I saw how much you cared about your craft, but if I could do it twice after seeing your channel name, I would have anyway, that's just punny. (If I may)
Thanks for the review!
Cool, those are the exact cards that I'm interested in, mostly I'm interested in pure vs nitro+ comparison, looking heavily for Pure because of planning all white/touch red all AMD build for a while now
issue is Pure looks good but you seems to be getting lower performance vs the nitro +
How to enable the oc mode on the xfx? Manual switch or through the adrenalin software?
I really want that Pure one 😍 my XTX is jelly
maybe you can make a full review with the 7800xt qick 319 performance, heat etc.
that's what I'm looking for. Have you found any data?
Should I take thé 6950xt merc or 7800xt merc I'm really lost help me guys 😭😭
Same price? Or rx6950xt cost more?
Rx7800xt be better pick , better everything , uses less power by 100 watts , dual AV1 encoder, HYPR rx antilag+ only works on rx7000 series , beats 6950xt on ray tracing .
Undervolt it and you will get 10 % more performance and use 50 watts less .
Just get at $500.00 with free game while it's available, I ve feeling prices will go up from here .
@@skywalker1991 bahaha im gonna take the rx7800xt but idk if I take thé gygabite or the merc
@@skywalker1991 and thank you for your answer man
In terms of components, the 7800xt is plainly a RDNA3 version of the 6800, not the xt. So it's still pricier than it should be. In these results there are some oddities between the Merc and Nitro at 1080p. Would be good to re-run a couple to see if they replicate. Though the results could also be due to the Merc allowing a higher power draw that becomes evident at high refresh rates. If I were to go for a 7800xt, these are the cards that would be on the shortlist. Will be interesting to see what Powercolor come up with too.
580 USD (the launch MSRP of the 6800), is equivalent to about 688 USD today.
If you adjust for inflation, the 7800 XT MSRP is lower than the 6700 XT's launch MSRP. 480 USD is equivalent to about 540 USD today, so the 7800 XT is clearly closest to the 6700 XT, or even the 6700 non XT, in terms of pricing. Maybe AMD was hoping that it was going to perform fast enough to be a 6800 successor, but that clearly didn't happen. The 7800 XT is around 43% faster than the 6700 XT, with 33% more vram, better quality coolers on most models, and various other features and improvements, so we're definitely still getting some significant gains in value from one generation to the next.
Likely AMD was originally planning to launch the 6700 XT with a lower MSRP, likely very close to what the 7800 XT's MSRP is today after adjusting for inflation.
Like it or not, inflation has been a lot higher than normal over the past three years, and our money isn't worth as much as it used to be. AMD isn't completely blameless for that, but they are definitely not primarily to blame for inflation.
@@syncmonism You are suggesting that the surge in prices from the GPU shortage, crypto mining and a very rare pandemic become the baseline for all prices in future. I'm suggesting that should not be.
I think they are good cards at a decent price, just the names shouldn't have been XT otherwise they are decent just a little surprised the 7800XT fell just short in some games on DXR compared to the 6800XT however the 7k range is worth buying due to the HypR RX so I'm hoping between now and spring time I'll be able to save enough for a 7900XTX and wait for the 9k+ series for the next upgrade. overall good cards for the midrange hard imho for anyone buying the midrange to really want nvidia outside of brand loyalty unless going for the higher end. I swear by sapphire when it comes to AMD cards never owned a different brand when using amd despite my current gpu they are just very good even my 6800XT nitro + has the argb cable i just don't have a argb mobo atm like they say if it's not broken don't fix it, only thing i'd say is rgb on the card i have i wish them settings were built into the amd driver rather than the sapphire app, thou saying that you can overclock in the app and set it as a bios setting so pretty useful in other ways. xfx have come a ways since with these newer coolers they are rather slick and sleek my only thoughts on them is i'm not overly keen on the silver would like to see other colour versions of the same cooler shroud.
Have had 2 Sapphire cards and they have been served me well for ages. The Sapphire Nitro+ 7800XT will be my next card!
there isn't any decency in same performance at about same price after three years
Guess it's finally time to upgrade my 1080ti. Finally. 😓
I bought the QIK319 and it ended up having coil whine so I got the MERC and that had coil whine as well. At this point not sure if I should try a 4070 or just deal with the coil whine
What watt is your psu?
@@kingpopo1872 850
I've got XFX RX 7800 XT MERC 319 and have absolutely no coil whine... Like ... at all. Probably it's your PSU.
Good work, Tom!
Sadly, it feels a bit like a price cut to the 6800 XT disguised as a new sku... After 3 years, I'd have liked to see a faster card in the 7800 XT.
For people who dont own a 6800xt and want something better or equal to a 4070 is a great upgrade for the price
@@joa4613 Not when you can still go out and get a 6800Xt cheaper... AIB's of the 7800XT are going to mostly be at least about $550 or so, and you can grab a new 6800XT right now for like $475.
@@AMDRyzenEnthusiastGroup i thinks its worth it spending a little bit more for a rdna 3 since it supports hyperx and will work better with amd frame generation so its more future proof
@@AMDRyzenEnthusiastGroupgot the Merc 7800Xt and it has a 4 year limited warranty. Sure I can find a used card but this will last a while coming from an old gtx 1080...
@@joa4613 The 6000 series supports frame gen too, when FSR 3 launches in a few months. I honestly can't believe that some people think this is a good deal.
just replaced my rtx3060ti with rx7800xt, its a way better card, better colours twice the fps in most games, and super quiet even under heavy load, my first amd card since the day of agp. and this card fitted my budget perfectly.
Pleasant surprise on the low temps, definitely be interested to see how far they can get pushed. Too bad it’s not the old days anymore and everything is software locked down.
i always watch tom first👍
Man gets a cookie xxx
Me too!
i feel like the most lucky man in the world becuase during a black friday sale i actually got the 7800 xt sapphire nitro+ for not $660, not $450, not even $300. $209.99. Yeah. crazy price drop and it only lasted for the day. it comes from december 18th - december 28th so i still got a while to wait but i cannot believe i snagged that.
i was not lucky it wasnt necessarily a scam (the sale was real) but the anonymous NEW seller was a scammer. so out of all the people amazon couldve chosen for me to get it by, it had to be an anonymous NEW seller who just so happened to be a scammer. worst luck in the world lmao
amazing review, Sapphire Nitro+ is on the way
That's a beautiful card. Maybe a bit overkill, but not as much of a price premium as a lot of Nitro+ models for other AMD cards.
I liked the rgb discussion many reviewers overlook it but rgb sells pcs, very important for funding my next pc build in a few years
Just to mention,... you're saying that the 7000 series draws less power then the 6000 series, but the graphs show this is only true for the 7800xt vs the 6800xt. Not for the 7700xt. It draws more then the 6700xt. For the rest good review though, thanks!
Agreed. They don't consume less power when looked at on a components comparison basis. The 7800xt, with a component set equivalent to a 6800 non-XT actually consumes more power. With that it outperforms the 6800 significantly, but it's that comparison of performance to components to wattage that shows whether the design is or isn't more efficient.
I Just found a new 319 merc for 420.- i think thats a deal
tbh i am not really sure about the 7800 xt performance on cyberpunk 1440p no upscale can reach that high fps even above 4070 ti
We Didn't See The Graphics cards Well But Thanks For Benchmark I Perefer Rx 7800 Xt On Rtx 4070 in Benchmark And Price
There is a few bits more at the end or you can click the website link
best vid about the card
Well I don't feel bad getting a 6800 XT last month with Starfield for £460 new
Returned a Merc 6800xt and was hoping the 7800xt would be at least 10% better. Arghh!! @!^%&* When the NDA embargo was lifted, I was disappointed with 7800xt performance. Now I cannot find either one for sale - lol
Sitting on a bunch of card and just ordered the 7800xt to return the ones I kept incase prices went wild. Sadly stock is barely out there
Picked up a rx6800 for 400£ with star field so pretty happy with that
same price 7800xt sapphire here in nz
I own the Merc 319 it’s a great card.
XFX has a great warranty in the US. Most cards get 3 years!
Merc 319 7800xt or the Asrock Phantom 7800xt
Phantom gaming
@@hanseltroks912 eneded up getting the Merc 319
@@wrcupz8685 y que tal el rendimiento? yo estoy viendo también cual de esas dos compró, saludos
It's kinda funny you know, the ATi RX 6000 Reference Models were stunning works of art with all-metal shrouds and a striking contrast between the black and silver sections. The RX 7000 Reference Models are really basic and bland-looking by comparison. They have become the epitomy of "meh".
MY RX 6800 XT is an ATi Reference Model which was the ONLY model RX 6800 XT that I wanted. I was literally DROOLING when I first saw the pictures of it but my RX 7900 XTX is an ASRock Phantom Gaming OC model. I got it open-box for over $200 off but the Phantom Gaming OC and the Red Devil OC were the two that caught my eye so it was a very happy coincidence.
my asus rog stix 3070 ti oc gamer die i sill have warranty untill september -17- 2021 asus is playing games i never open the vidio card only gaming ill get, sapphire nitro 7800xt and put it on my 5800 3d .
«I got the big fat daddy» caught me off guard
3:10 mba 4800 🤦🤦♀….. we know what you meant TTL 🥰👍😇
The 7800 XT naming is dumb. It's a 6700 XT successor, not a 6800 XT successor, though the naming isn't ultimately that big of an issue. It's using a mid-sized GPU, and it's launching at a similar MSRP to what the 6700 XT launched at. 500 USD today is equivalent to around 440 USD two and a half years ago, when the 6700 XT first launched at 480 USD, and the 7800 XT is about 43% faster than the 6700 XT.
It's nothing new for previous gen graphics cards to be heavily discounted in price before many of the next gen cards replace them, and for them to have equal or better performance per dollar at those prices, yet many people are arguing things like "the 7800 XT offers little to no improvement in value per dollar over the previous generation", as if AMD is supposed to give us a major improvement in value per dollar over CURRENT pricing for the already heavily discounted 6800 XT (and other various heavily discounted 6000 series cards).
Do you need to like the price of the 7800 XT? No. It sucks that average incomes haven't kept pace with inflation, and you could argue that AMD does share some degree of blame for that, though certainly not most of the blame.
If 500 is still too expensive for you, then that sucks, because the 7700 XT is not worth considering at current pricing (even though it is fairly competitive against Nvidia alternatives). The 6700 XT is currently a potentially very good option at 330 USD, but stock will probably mostly run out long before the next generation comes out, and the 7700 XT is simply too close in manufacturing cost to the 7800 XT for AMD to ever want to give us a genuinely good deal on them. AMD definitely left a big gap between the 7600 (which is itself still over-priced at most retailers), and the 7800 XT, basically forcing people to buy previous gen, or used cards, if they want a good value lower-mid-range or upper-low-end graphics card, and Nvidia has also basically done the same thing, by offering poor value for everything other than the RTX 4070 (and the 4090 is arguably a good value as well, at least as far as ultra high-end cards go, but it's simply not going to be worth buying for the vast majority of gamers).
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don't buy the reference design if you live in a hot place, it peaks at 83'C in a 30'C room and it's loud
You never heard of undervolting your GPU ? It's must dude , amd software is great , couple clicks and you get better performance and GPU uses 50 to 30 watts less , temps are lower by 10 degrees, why not ?
@@skywalker1991 it didn't do much, -0.05V for 5°C different and still has annoying fan whine, manually tweaking your GPU shouldn't be a requirement, that's like saying "it's suck at stock but it's a good car if you tune the ECU". Some AIB models like the powercolor hellhound cost the same with much better cooling performance, so why not ? 🤣
You never buy the reference design its really that simple.
So this is where all the stock went
No cuestan 500 dólares como dicen cuesta en amazon 549.99 la xfx en amazon 😢😢😢😢
Unfortunately for AMD the claimed power savings of the 7800XT over the 6800XT is false imo, not fanboying, but the fact is the 7800XT is really 6800 in terms of Cores, ROPs etc with a higher spec’d name just thrown in for sales which brings the power draw down. The fact is thou the 7800XT is a more refined 6800 with better raster performance and better Ray Tracing performance. I feel it’s more of a RDNA2.5 and not necessarily 3.0 this generation. The pricing of the 7800(XT) is fair imo and the 7700XT should be around $379 to make sense.
It's not the same at all, ffs, it's very different.
@tlv8555 It's literally not. Just about all major specs are vastly different.
cant even read those graphs wtf man
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I've got an XFX RX7900XT merc 310 black and I'm really unhappy with it. It's too long (with the poorly designed support bracket) for most cases and it runs too hot. 105c hotspot with just regular gaming. I won't buy another XFX card after this one. No, it's not defective, XFX says that it's designed to peak at those temps for the hotspot. I've got an ASROC RX6700XT in another system that I'm far more happy with. Lesson learned.
Why can't you undervolt it , most cards ships with voltage cranked up to max , just unnecessary.
Each GPU is different , so who knows you lower voltage by 100Mv and temps goes down by 15 degrees, mine did .
Also I get 8% better performance, uses less watts , never had a single crash ,
Try it with and software it's supereasy
@@skywalker1991 Tried. Won't undervolt. It's the factory overclocked version with +50watt power limit. It doesn't seem to like the undervolt for some reason.
Your 'conclusion' is far too long
Wow @temps
Have to make your charts more readable 😂
Last Gen's 6800 (and up) AMD GPUs & the new 7000 series have serious power issues @ video playback (youtube, Netflix, video players etc.)
40+ W is stupidly HIGH & meaningless... and while the previous 6700 XT consumes only 16W, the new 7700 XT doubles that power draw with a whooping 33W on "video playback"
AMD should solve that power issue @ video playback at least in the next 8000 series.
- No, I'm NOT UpGrading. I'll stay with RX 6700XT until the next Gen.
If someone needed to upgrade from a way older card then yours, would you recommend the 6700xt over the 7700xt just because the 7700xt draws more power? Because in starfield, the 7700xt looks way better then the 6700xt. Only problem is it draws more power.
@@phil9079 it depends on your choice.
If u're NOT a hardcore gamer, using your system both for work/light gaming RX 6700XT is very much preferable & it's much cheaper too.
Otherwise 7700 XT is a big leap forward in terms of FPS...
7800 XT is better 6800 XT in India because of price
the comparison table is horrible to look at
Are you on smack?
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