Novablast 3/4, Saucony Triumph 20/21 and Kayano 30/31 got my vote. These are "relatively" cheaper than other model you suggested for LSD. For speed workout and goal marathon pace long run training I use my old plated racer. I couldn't resist the temptation to try out the new plated racer so I always have one pair which only log 100km on it.
I use Nimbus 25 for half-mara's and my Novablast 4 as of yesterday for 5 & 10k's. Before nowablast I ran those distances In Asics Gel Kinjo. My PB's are 26: 03 for 5k, 57 for 10k, 2h:20-25min Half-mara. I am 33 and I never ran untill 2 years ago when I decided to start running daily with no special plan or food changes. I meltes 25kg and now I am around 85kg +- 3kg. 😁 Keep running 👍
Just used the Mizuno Neo Vista this morning. Wow!! They really are superb. Never felt such softness and was able to p😢ick up the speed. I got them for £127 on sportsshoes which I think is a steal!
I'm training for my first marathon (it's in 3 weeks) and my long run shoe is the Asics Nimbus, which I use for most of my easy runs as well. I use the Superblast (v1) for the runs that are on the faster side like tempo and threshold runs. The marathon itself will be run in the Metaspeed Edge Paris and I just did a 31km run with them yesterday to have them fully broken in before the race. I was quite surprised how well they behave in wet conditions (unlike the Superblast v1). Yeah, I also have a few non-Asics (Hoka, Adidas and Nike), but I decided to stick to Asics for my marathon training.
I have the puma and novablast 3, one major difference ive noticed between them that isnt mentioned is i think the puma ventilation is not very good. I recently wore rhem on a relatively warm ( for Ireland! ) 28k and found them really warm for the the last hour or so. Ive never noticed the same problem in the novablasts. Another thing about the novablasts, unless you need them immediately, the nb4 will probably be shortly making its way to the asics outlet, or at least i picked up a couple of pairs of the NB3 in November 23 on the outlet when they were just over a year old, NB4 are creeping up on that now
Absolutely team Superblast 2, too 😊 Only problem with it: I really have to convince myself that it is useful to use some of my other shoes as well (at least every now and then 😅)
Puma velocity nitro 3 is a good pick but if you shop around you can get the magnify Nitro 2 which is great for long runs and a bit better than the velocity.
@@jlhuk52 good shoe for sure. Very protected and comfortable running.. My only criticism would be that they run a tad long to size and could have saved a little weight on the upper and the thickness of the puma grip. Great for the price you can get them at tho and should go 500 miles
I’ve done 692 kms in my Magnify 2s and still going strong. The responsiveness of the midsole offsets the extra weight, I think. Agree on the size though - I went down half a size.
I think we're all now a victim of marketing nonsense. A couple of years ago, trainers we now call normal were considering max stack. I think running long in anything around 25-30mm+ is absolutely fine. There's enough data now confirming bigger stack heights cause you to put more pressure through your legs so brands have to try combat this whilst doing something different to sell shoes. I suspect brands will soon start dropping stack heights telling us its gentler on the legs.
Valid points there I considered my 25 mm heel stack quite cushioned back in 2017 when I started running and used new balance 1400 and 1500 models for my long runs and Pegasus 35 for marathons 😆 more stack causes fatigue and stability issues when cornering imo
Too many variables, honestly. I agree a huge part of what trends are in are all marketing (Harry Kane is making kids get Sketchers boots now), but in regards to max stack heights being normal, you also have to consider the materials and designs from, say 5 years ago, to now. There's also the variables of runner height, weight, stride, leg length, etc.
Stack really isn't that important, it matters but so does the materials and design. They also changed how it's measured, some companies used to only lk Ijst the height of the midsole foam where as others included the outsole and in sole.
my experience says differently, with max cushion shoe, I don't get pain in the joints the day after, and so I can run everyday, whatever training I do: I ran 17km yesterday in my Magnify Nitro 2, and my legs are absolutely fine: it would have been much different in my deviate. everybody is different, some people run without shoes without any problem, but they worked a lot on body reinforcement: I guess that is the key. I cycle a lot, I have good stamina, but before max cushion shoes, I would hurt myself running way before being tired. it is not a problem anymore, now you can run as much as you want without any pain, even if you are not a dedicated runner.
@@timjacobsen3141 the Triumph 20 is ca. 290gr in size 45 so i guess mine in 42 are 275-280gr. As you can see there are a lot heavier shoes in this video..but i agree when it comes to the ride which is pretty firm
I've got a triumph 21, and it's good for a long run... However With the intention of using it for "recovery" only, I was always so inclined to do mid fast tempos in my first month using them, almost exclusively at the time (ignoring the other 3-4 working shoes I had in rotation) Might be an unpopular opinion on these shoes, to use as a kind of marathon pace tempo shoe, sprinkled in amongst your easy mileage.. but the shape and fit of these big shoes really make me want to propel forward.. I think kofusi has the same opinion (or was it with the Nike invincible line, I forget) That being said, don't see why these would be relegated to recovery duties only
@@mikea6710 yeah i agree..i struggle with lower paces wearing this shoe because it is comfortable and engaging at once. I tend to run my normal training runs a little bit too fast..i think the Gel Nimbus or Invincible Run are better at going slower because they are much softer
I started running about 3 months ago. I've been using the Asics Nimbus 25 (wide foot variant) and no complains so far. Maybe I'll try something else next time
I have the Novablast 4TR ,Superblast 2 and NB Rebel V4. Use the Nova for any easy run especially over winter and raining. SB2 for everything else and sometimes my Rebel V4 for anything under 10K and quick plus treadmill. I agree Ben, it’s hard to stop picking up the Superblast 2 every time 😂 Got another pair on way as back up 👍
@@rafirauf7797 imo I prefer the SB2, it’s more comfortable and can do all those well plus longer runs over 10K. Rebel is great for faster stuff but don’t find it as comfortable especially over 10K.SB2 is kinder on my legs and knees!
Did my first run in my Prime X 2 Strung today, only 7 miles but I loved them! Just sold my Superblast 2's and replaced them with the Adidas and I have no regrets
Just received my brooks ghost max 2 yesterday! For a beginner runner and someone that is an electrician these feel like a feather pillow on my feet. Just need my man flu to go and I can get out there and give them a blast. This video made my mind up on it. Looked for the ASICS but absolutely out of stock everywhere apart from the moon. Great video Ben 🤩
Yep. I have the Mag 2 & Velocity 3 and the Mag is definitely the better for anything easy or recovery. That said, I also have Clifton 8 for easy runs & just grabbed NB's More V4 on clearance for "marshmallow days" of fun/junk miles..
I love my novablast 4 LEs. Took a few weeks for my calves to adjust as I normally run in stability shoes not neutrals. Glad I have pushed through the teething period as now I feel amazing in these and worse in my old shoes. Novablasts let my feet do what they want to do and I find I can use them for sessions or easy running with good comfort and recovery. They are still comfortable enough after a long run that I don’t feel the immediate need to take them off. We’ll see how they last long term tho!
Can’t comment on the Superblast 2 but definitely like version 1 which I do have, and they are great for a heavy runner at any speed. Not sure I want to try version 2 if they are softer. I did one 5km run in the Hoka SkywardX and they killed my feet and Achilles as they had to overwork due to how unstable they are. Enjoy running in my NB SC Trainer V3 however my knees ache afterwards, I don’t think they are stable enough. I took out my Speed 3’s which I’ve not ran in for months and preferred them to SC V3. Also loving the Hurricane 24 right now. And don’t know why I don’t use them more often but I would Boston 12 are my overall favourite for long runs as heavy runner. I would of course expect shoes to be different when I lose weight.
I have the Novablast 4 TR and absolutely love it. It's my do-it-all default shoe. I did a 3h easy long run yesterday and I kept thinking "man, I love this shoe". I bought it for easy and long runs, but I was surprised to see how well it handled faster paces when I was on holidays and this was the only one I had. I did some intervals and it felt just fine.
Saucony hurricane and puma mag max maybe in the long run max cushion categories for some folks to take a look :-) . Nice tip for deal hunting I found some manufacturers like ASICS and puma have discounts for certain types of workers like emergency rescue or healthcare on their websites that still include performance running shoes :-) .Thanks for the video Ben , keep up the good content.
Puma shoes are brilliant for the price. The outsole is bomb proof, I have the Deviate Nitro 2 with the plate and they're fabulous, cost me considerably less than the Saucony Speed 3/4 shoes that all my club mates seem to rave about.
I purchased the Puma Velocity Nitro 2 for £55 and honestly can’t fault them for a daily trainer, wouldn’t want to run much further than 10miles but I’m on the heavier side. Actually bought a second pair given they were so cheap!
I am a heavy runner (110 kg) and I tried the Novablast 4's a couple weeks. Do not recommend at all. It was comfortable the first 2-3 kms each run but after that the forefoot felt like there were three pressure points because of the "holes" in the foam.
Glad you had the novablast in there, these may be my favorite shoes of all time. So versatile and can shockingly perform incredible at higher paces. Can’t recommend enough
Hi Ben, even if I love your videos and they helped me a lot to choose my 2 new pairs of shoes, I really miss one detail you don't talk about : for which Runner weight does the shoes fit ? I mean, there's a lot of shoes you've tested that I loved but discovered that it was suitable for light runners (less than 75 or 85 kg). And for big runners as me (100kg) it could help a lot to have this information. Im following your 10k training as well and for the moment it's great. Thank you !
I rate Ben Parkes you tube channel as one of the best UK running channels. The plans are awesome as well I have the Half and Marathon ones and plan to use them once fit enough as have only just started running again. One idea I have for a great series and one Ben as hinted on in the past and would go to the Heart of the UK club scene. Is a Cross country season maybe with the County champs and Southern champs and the big one "The National" you could use the Met League races as the builders and race for Serps. I think it be a popular series for the winter months and be a different challenge for Ben the strength would bring you on for Marathons etc as well. Only a thought but would love to see it
Oh man, I love my Puma Velocity Nitro 3 and even that the shoes are narrow and I overpronate, they work marvelously to me. In the next Black Friday I will see if I can get a different colorway of the Velocity to replace my old pair. The Nova Blast in the other hand, I did not like them that much. Too much hype and the Velocity 3 is a 9.5 out of 10 to me while the NB is a 7.5 /10 . Any other cushioning shoes from Asics are better then the NB4 . Not to mention, the grip of the NB4 can be bad even in a dry and clean ground ...
Yeah, about pricing difference in different countries - the moment when everybody talks about budget Puma and best price what I can get in Sweden is equivalent 170eur, in same time Novablast 4 can be bought for 150eur or less.
Great list. Saucony Tempus and Puma Magmax are also great options. I wonder how the NB Balos holds up on long runs. I do like my Superblast 2 although I prefer softer foams such as PwrrunPb hence thinking to pick up a pair of Balos when it gets discounted.
I like my pair as well. I also got the Brooks Hyperion Max for a marathon but I find them not so stable in curves, and they annoy me when the road is slanted.
@@AckerQ. The Hyperion max doesn't have a plate and if you land fairly hard right at the back it can be quite unstable, I really like it for slightly quicker stuff where I'm only putting weight through my mid foot
As below have said, Triumph 21 is a great Long run shoe and can get a bit cheaper now, esp if you go for the 20 which is almost the same. The new Saucony Hurricane seems to be getting great reviews too, be good to see you try that one?
I just got Novablast 4 and have only had them on feet inside and have to say they feel considerably less bouncy than version 3 when they were new. I still remember walking and jumping in the 3 and how bouncy they felt on the same floor, now they have almost 1000km of running and I replaced them with 4. Has anyone noticed much difference between 3 and 4?
shoes depends a lot of the runner weight, a marathon shoes for elite can become a speed shoe for a 80kg average runner. It should be nice to talk about softness of foam
I start your intermediate 10k plan soon then marathon plan in January. Before I start I'm going to do a 17 mile run. I planned on using my magmax as it's a steady run. You have mad me question my choice now 😅
I haven't worn them but have the Hyperion max which I think is same foam. It feels rock hard when you first put it on but it's actually really nice to run in, really softens up under load.
Hi Ben. Thanks for the video. Have you tested NB SuperComp Elite v4 vs SuperComp Trainer v3 ? ... in the market for a new long run shoe for upcoming training block for spring marathon and given UK pricing on trainer v3, maybe elite v4 better investment? Wondering if they are too firm as my legs appreciate the cushioning (currently in Nike Invincible3s) but if not much diff between them, ok option. Thanks for any tips.
Weirdly, I can’t stand the Novablast 4s for easy stuff, but love them for my speed workouts. Maybe it’s that I heel strike a bit more the slower I go, but the heel to toe transition feels weird going slower. But I would race in them if I didn’t have carbon shoes.
I'd add (at least) Reebok Floatride Energy Symmetros to the list, the model specially designed for long runs. Some .ON Running models are good, too, and especially good on hilly terrain.
We did want to include a Reebok shoe on the list, but the availability of the shoes was never great when we kept checking.. low stock in most places etc. But if you can get them then they are always a good option!
i was wondering which of these is recommended for medusa paced 3ks 5ks for off trails and road? Also are plates good for training or are they usually for race days/ hard training sessions??
Hey Ben! I’m absolutely loving the videos. I am on a budget and am thinking about two shoes. Do you think the Pegasus 41 is better or the adidas adizero sl2 is better?
SC Trainer is so horrible expensive in Europe (Germany) I got lots of shoes but dont see the point of spending 250€ (what is a race shoe price for me) for a trainer.
I’m a 5k-10k runner.. what is a “long” run? I’ve always said long runs don’t apply to me since my max distance is 6 maybe 7mi. I have no aspirations to run a marathon of any sorts.
Smart don't do them I did plenty 40 years ago then 1/2's 14 years ago! Do what you are doing these ppl will get injured eventually. Your health will be just fine! It is not how many miles you run but how you run them! More does not equal better health. Lift weights also and walk briskly(enjoy it though) don't run every day you'll enjoy your running even more
Not a hater but if you are someone like who want shoes around $80, these are super expensive. My avg distance is 70 km/week. So i do need multiple shoes. The best method that has worked for me is to wait for older models and get at 50% or if you want something super cheap. Joes new balance outlet is one of the best shop out there, wait for deal (2 in $100). You can save alot and get premium experience
I have used Joe's I need to check back today in need of foam I must say I bought the NB fuel cell v4 I believe for $110 it really is terrific for speed work and the track I have been in the MT 481's for years they loose their 'bounce go flat after 300 miles(?) BUT they are safe to wear comfortable, stable. I don't race and haven't in decades I'm not paying $35 to run a 5k and win 70-74 age group lol
currently waiting for my 75usd velocity 2. I cancelled my nike revolution 7 after wandering around youtube 😂. 100usd for shoes just way too much for me 😅
Novablast 3/4, Saucony Triumph 20/21 and Kayano 30/31 got my vote. These are "relatively" cheaper than other model you suggested for LSD. For speed workout and goal marathon pace long run training I use my old plated racer. I couldn't resist the temptation to try out the new plated racer so I always have one pair which only log 100km on it.
He said long run shoes, not LSR shoes.. different beasts. These shoes need to be able to be able to pick up the pace for progression.
Kayano is 150$ how the f is it cheap?
Long run means 15+ miles
I use Nimbus 25 for half-mara's and my Novablast 4 as of yesterday for 5 & 10k's. Before nowablast I ran those distances In Asics Gel Kinjo. My PB's are 26: 03 for 5k, 57 for 10k, 2h:20-25min Half-mara. I am 33 and I never ran untill 2 years ago when I decided to start running daily with no special plan or food changes. I meltes 25kg and now I am around 85kg +- 3kg. 😁 Keep running 👍
Just used the Mizuno Neo Vista this morning. Wow!! They really are superb. Never felt such softness and was able to p😢ick up the speed. I got them for £127 on sportsshoes which I think is a steal!
I'm training for my first marathon (it's in 3 weeks) and my long run shoe is the Asics Nimbus, which I use for most of my easy runs as well. I use the Superblast (v1) for the runs that are on the faster side like tempo and threshold runs. The marathon itself will be run in the Metaspeed Edge Paris and I just did a 31km run with them yesterday to have them fully broken in before the race. I was quite surprised how well they behave in wet conditions (unlike the Superblast v1).
Yeah, I also have a few non-Asics (Hoka, Adidas and Nike), but I decided to stick to Asics for my marathon training.
ASICS nimbus?
Thanks for adding Canadian dollars to the prices. No one ever does that! Cheers mate. 🇨🇦
I have the puma and novablast 3, one major difference ive noticed between them that isnt mentioned is i think the puma ventilation is not very good. I recently wore rhem on a relatively warm ( for Ireland! ) 28k and found them really warm for the the last hour or so. Ive never noticed the same problem in the novablasts.
Another thing about the novablasts, unless you need them immediately, the nb4 will probably be shortly making its way to the asics outlet, or at least i picked up a couple of pairs of the NB3 in November 23 on the outlet when they were just over a year old, NB4 are creeping up on that now
Absolutely team Superblast 2, too 😊 Only problem with it: I really have to convince myself that it is useful to use some of my other shoes as well (at least every now and then 😅)
Puma velocity nitro 3 is a good pick but if you shop around you can get the magnify Nitro 2 which is great for long runs and a bit better than the velocity.
totally agree and definitely more of a long run shoe and with a "long run ride". Full nitro foam stack vs nitro + eva in the velocity.
@@huzcer I logged a 13 mile run in them after that comment, definitely one of my fav cushioned shoes
@@jlhuk52 good shoe for sure. Very protected and comfortable running.. My only criticism would be that they run a tad long to size and could have saved a little weight on the upper and the thickness of the puma grip. Great for the price you can get them at tho and should go 500 miles
I’ve done 692 kms in my Magnify 2s and still going strong. The responsiveness of the midsole offsets the extra weight, I think. Agree on the size though - I went down half a size.
@@RichardHitchcock-ig4lj great to hear they have good durability. I was ok in my normal size.
Puma grip is so good. I’d say get the Velocity Nitro 3 as a dedicated wet weather daily trainer because it’s that good in the wet.
I think we're all now a victim of marketing nonsense. A couple of years ago, trainers we now call normal were considering max stack. I think running long in anything around 25-30mm+ is absolutely fine. There's enough data now confirming bigger stack heights cause you to put more pressure through your legs so brands have to try combat this whilst doing something different to sell shoes. I suspect brands will soon start dropping stack heights telling us its gentler on the legs.
Valid points there I considered my 25 mm heel stack quite cushioned back in 2017 when I started running and used new balance 1400 and 1500 models for my long runs and Pegasus 35 for marathons 😆 more stack causes fatigue and stability issues when cornering imo
Too many variables, honestly. I agree a huge part of what trends are in are all marketing (Harry Kane is making kids get Sketchers boots now), but in regards to max stack heights being normal, you also have to consider the materials and designs from, say 5 years ago, to now. There's also the variables of runner height, weight, stride, leg length, etc.
Stack really isn't that important, it matters but so does the materials and design.
They also changed how it's measured, some companies used to only lk
Ijst the height of the midsole foam where as others included the outsole and in sole.
my experience says differently, with max cushion shoe, I don't get pain in the joints the day after, and so I can run everyday, whatever training I do: I ran 17km yesterday in my Magnify Nitro 2, and my legs are absolutely fine: it would have been much different in my deviate. everybody is different, some people run without shoes without any problem, but they worked a lot on body reinforcement: I guess that is the key. I cycle a lot, I have good stamina, but before max cushion shoes, I would hurt myself running way before being tired. it is not a problem anymore, now you can run as much as you want without any pain, even if you are not a dedicated runner.
Also hi drop is not good
You definitely forgot Sauconys Triumph Line. I run the V20 and find it to be one of the best shoes i ever used for mostly every type of run 🎉
No way!!! I use the Triumph for recovery runs and nothing more. They are way to heavy for long runs.
@@timjacobsen3141 the Triumph 20 is ca. 290gr in size 45 so i guess mine in 42 are 275-280gr. As you can see there are a lot heavier shoes in this video..but i agree when it comes to the ride which is pretty firm
I've got a triumph 21, and it's good for a long run... However
With the intention of using it for "recovery" only, I was always so inclined to do mid fast tempos in my first month using them, almost exclusively at the time (ignoring the other 3-4 working shoes I had in rotation)
Might be an unpopular opinion on these shoes, to use as a kind of marathon pace tempo shoe, sprinkled in amongst your easy mileage.. but the shape and fit of these big shoes really make me want to propel forward.. I think kofusi has the same opinion (or was it with the Nike invincible line, I forget)
That being said, don't see why these would be relegated to recovery duties only
@@mikea6710 yeah i agree..i struggle with lower paces wearing this shoe because it is comfortable and engaging at once. I tend to run my normal training runs a little bit too fast..i think the Gel Nimbus or Invincible Run are better at going slower because they are much softer
I started running about 3 months ago. I've been using the Asics Nimbus 25 (wide foot variant) and no complains so far. Maybe I'll try something else next time
I have the Novablast 4TR ,Superblast 2 and NB Rebel V4. Use the Nova for any easy run especially over winter and raining. SB2 for everything else and sometimes my Rebel V4 for anything under 10K and quick plus treadmill. I agree Ben, it’s hard to stop picking up the Superblast 2 every time 😂 Got another pair on way as back up 👍
for all type of running like interval,tempo run,easy run,5-10k etc what the versatile one rebelV4 or SB2?
@@rafirauf7797 imo I prefer the SB2, it’s more comfortable and can do all those well plus longer runs over 10K. Rebel is great for faster stuff but don’t find it as comfortable especially over 10K.SB2 is kinder on my legs and knees!
Did my first run in my Prime X 2 Strung today, only 7 miles but I loved them! Just sold my Superblast 2's and replaced them with the Adidas and I have no regrets
My favourite shoe at the moment!
got the Puma Velo nitro 3 since a month, Loving it so far!
Haven’t watched your picks yet but I LOVE my Superblast 2s!
Just received my brooks ghost max 2 yesterday! For a beginner runner and someone that is an electrician these feel like a feather pillow on my feet. Just need my man flu to go and I can get out there and give them a blast. This video made my mind up on it. Looked for the ASICS but absolutely out of stock everywhere apart from the moon.
Great video Ben 🤩
For long runs, I'd pick Magnify 2 or MagMax over Velocity 3.
Yeah, but not lsd. Long runs that are faster...
Yep. I have the Mag 2 & Velocity 3 and the Mag is definitely the better for anything easy or recovery. That said, I also have Clifton 8 for easy runs & just grabbed NB's More V4 on clearance for "marshmallow days" of fun/junk miles..
I love my novablast 4 LEs. Took a few weeks for my calves to adjust as I normally run in stability shoes not neutrals. Glad I have pushed through the teething period as now I feel amazing in these and worse in my old shoes. Novablasts let my feet do what they want to do and I find I can use them for sessions or easy running with good comfort and recovery. They are still comfortable enough after a long run that I don’t feel the immediate need to take them off. We’ll see how they last long term tho!
Can’t comment on the Superblast 2 but definitely like version 1 which I do have, and they are great for a heavy runner at any speed. Not sure I want to try version 2 if they are softer. I did one 5km run in the Hoka SkywardX and they killed my feet and Achilles as they had to overwork due to how unstable they are. Enjoy running in my NB SC Trainer V3 however my knees ache afterwards, I don’t think they are stable enough. I took out my Speed 3’s which I’ve not ran in for months and preferred them to SC V3. Also loving the Hurricane 24 right now. And don’t know why I don’t use them more often but I would Boston 12 are my overall favourite for long runs as heavy runner. I would of course expect shoes to be different when I lose weight.
I have the Novablast 4 TR and absolutely love it. It's my do-it-all default shoe. I did a 3h easy long run yesterday and I kept thinking "man, I love this shoe". I bought it for easy and long runs, but I was surprised to see how well it handled faster paces when I was on holidays and this was the only one I had. I did some intervals and it felt just fine.
Saucony hurricane and puma mag max maybe in the long run max cushion categories for some folks to take a look :-) . Nice tip for deal hunting I found some manufacturers like ASICS and puma have discounts for certain types of workers like emergency rescue or healthcare on their websites that still include performance running shoes :-) .Thanks for the video Ben , keep up the good content.
Prime X Strung is the GOAT
Puma shoes are brilliant for the price. The outsole is bomb proof, I have the Deviate Nitro 2 with the plate and they're fabulous, cost me considerably less than the Saucony Speed 3/4 shoes that all my club mates seem to rave about.
I purchased the Puma Velocity Nitro 2 for £55 and honestly can’t fault them for a daily trainer, wouldn’t want to run much further than 10miles but I’m on the heavier side. Actually bought a second pair given they were so cheap!
I am a heavy runner (110 kg) and I tried the Novablast 4's a couple weeks. Do not recommend at all. It was comfortable the first 2-3 kms each run but after that the forefoot felt like there were three pressure points because of the "holes" in the foam.
Glad you had the novablast in there, these may be my favorite shoes of all time. So versatile and can shockingly perform incredible at higher paces. Can’t recommend enough
Hi Ben, even if I love your videos and they helped me a lot to choose my 2 new pairs of shoes, I really miss one detail you don't talk about : for which Runner weight does the shoes fit ? I mean, there's a lot of shoes you've tested that I loved but discovered that it was suitable for light runners (less than 75 or 85 kg). And for big runners as me (100kg) it could help a lot to have this information.
Im following your 10k training as well and for the moment it's great. Thank you !
We have a video here with lots of shoes for heavy runners. ua-cam.com/video/CfYOmxVBRIc/v-deo.htmlsi=xai0dcvy4rhm5QhW
@@BenParkes I saw it, but maybe you could talk about it for your next reviews 😁
Just purchased a pair of NB More v5 off your recommendation Ben
The GOAT!
I rate Ben Parkes you tube channel as one of the best UK running channels. The plans are awesome as well I have the Half and Marathon ones and plan to use them once fit enough as have only just started running again. One idea I have for a great series and one Ben as hinted on in the past and would go to the Heart of the UK club scene. Is a Cross country season maybe with the County champs and Southern champs and the big one "The National" you could use the Met League races as the builders and race for Serps. I think it be a popular series for the winter months and be a different challenge for Ben the strength would bring you on for Marathons etc as well. Only a thought but would love to see it
Was waiting for this video. BTW congrats on the Berlin Marathon!!!!
Oh man, I love my Puma Velocity Nitro 3 and even that the shoes are narrow and I overpronate, they work marvelously to me. In the next Black Friday I will see if I can get a different colorway of the Velocity to replace my old pair.
The Nova Blast in the other hand, I did not like them that much. Too much hype and the Velocity 3 is a 9.5 out of 10 to me while the NB is a 7.5 /10 . Any other cushioning shoes from Asics are better then the NB4 . Not to mention, the grip of the NB4 can be bad even in a dry and clean ground ...
Yeah, about pricing difference in different countries - the moment when everybody talks about budget Puma and best price what I can get in Sweden is equivalent 170eur, in same time Novablast 4 can be bought for 150eur or less.
I've been using the Hoka Mach X 2s. Absolutely love them. They are great for training but love to pick up the pace as well.
Great list. Saucony Tempus and Puma Magmax are also great options. I wonder how the NB Balos holds up on long runs. I do like my Superblast 2 although I prefer softer foams such as PwrrunPb hence thinking to pick up a pair of Balos when it gets discounted.
I'm still running on the Novablast 3. Looking to get a new shoe and I'm tempted to just get the 4 once it (hopefully) goes on sale sometime soon.
How's the Superblast 2 compared to the Nimbus 26 in terms of midsole softness?
PS: Well done in Berlin!!
I've put about 250-300km into my Pumas and they only have a little wear to the heel grip so far 👍
I’ve put 692 kms on my Pumas - very impressed with the durability. There is no wear on the upper or deterioration of the foam either.
I like my pair as well.
I also got the Brooks Hyperion Max for a marathon but I find them not so stable in curves, and they annoy me when the road is slanted.
Magnify nitro more a long run shoe with the higher stack and full nitro midsole which will last longer due to no Eva like in the velocity
@@AckerQ. The Hyperion max doesn't have a plate and if you land fairly hard right at the back it can be quite unstable, I really like it for slightly quicker stuff where I'm only putting weight through my mid foot
Agreed. It’s the Puma Nitro Magnify 2 that I have. Got a 2nd pair for only £90 plus shipping so they’re a real bargain.
As below have said, Triumph 21 is a great Long run shoe and can get a bit cheaper now, esp if you go for the 20 which is almost the same. The new Saucony Hurricane seems to be getting great reviews too, be good to see you try that one?
Bagged the Puma’s for £61, thanks for the tip!
I just got Novablast 4 and have only had them on feet inside and have to say they feel considerably less bouncy than version 3 when they were new. I still remember walking and jumping in the 3 and how bouncy they felt on the same floor, now they have almost 1000km of running and I replaced them with 4. Has anyone noticed much difference between 3 and 4?
thanks Ben for this video. just discovered your channel and you have a new subscriber :D
Welcome!
Putting a word in for the Mizuno Neo Vista. Great shoe for long runs but defo a bit pricey.
In loooooove with my puma magnify nitro 2 for long runs and actually I use the velocity nitro 3 for my speed work
Team novablast! It’s a new shoe for me this year in my training and it’s been a great weekend shoe for my long runs
thanks for the video man
shoes depends a lot of the runner weight, a marathon shoes for elite can become a speed shoe for a 80kg average runner. It should be nice to talk about softness of foam
I start your intermediate 10k plan soon then marathon plan in January. Before I start I'm going to do a 17 mile run. I planned on using my magmax as it's a steady run. You have mad me question my choice now 😅
How many miles / kilometres do they usually last? When do you throw them away, can you make a video about durability?
Great video…. Any thoughts on the Asics Gel Nimbus 26? It seems to have fallen by the wayside.
More V5 is amazing, and I found it to be way more comfortable than the skyward X
Nike Invincible Run 3 , thats the one !!!! It is expensive, but it is top quality for long ,slow runs over 30 km
I'm from Belgium, ran the Novablast 4 in spring and summer. Got the TR version for the wet months :)
You have bad quality roads, so trail version could be used all year 😅😊
Exactly what the video I need at the perfect time!
Have the SC Trainer v3, one complaint is that it needs to be gotten in half a size larger
Can you please do similar comparison for long-run shoes starting as low as 50€?
Is the ghost max 2 softer than v1? That one felt so hard and firm when putting on right away!
I haven't worn them but have the Hyperion max which I think is same foam. It feels rock hard when you first put it on but it's actually really nice to run in, really softens up under load.
Hi Ben. Thanks for the video. Have you tested NB SuperComp Elite v4 vs SuperComp Trainer v3 ? ... in the market for a new long run shoe for upcoming training block for spring marathon and given UK pricing on trainer v3, maybe elite v4 better investment? Wondering if they are too firm as my legs appreciate the cushioning (currently in Nike Invincible3s) but if not much diff between them, ok option. Thanks for any tips.
What about the new balance v more 5 ?? Love them 😍
Which shoe suitable for wide foot ?
Weirdly, I can’t stand the Novablast 4s for easy stuff, but love them for my speed workouts. Maybe it’s that I heel strike a bit more the slower I go, but the heel to toe transition feels weird going slower. But I would race in them if I didn’t have carbon shoes.
Saucony Triumph 22. Pricey, looks great in Orange and gives my dodgy Achilles the easiest ride of any of my shoes.
I would have recommended the Puma Magnify Nitro 2 instead of the Velocity Nitro 3. Full 39mm of Nitro foam and everywhere on discount
I'd add (at least) Reebok Floatride Energy Symmetros to the list, the model specially designed for long runs. Some .ON Running models are good, too, and especially good on hilly terrain.
We did want to include a Reebok shoe on the list, but the availability of the shoes was never great when we kept checking.. low stock in most places etc. But if you can get them then they are always a good option!
Hi, can you explain what do you mean by 1/2 size down in Asics
If you wear size 10.5(US) then get a 9.5 it would be exactly a 1/2 size down If up then 10.5. Understand?
Thank you. Understood.
Ben, any tips or suggestions for that inner thigh chafing. I like to wear shorter shorts when running, but my inner thighs aren’t built for it 😮
Body glide
i was wondering which of these is recommended for medusa paced 3ks 5ks for off trails and road? Also are plates good for training or are they usually for race days/ hard training sessions??
Hey Ben! I’m absolutely loving the videos. I am on a budget and am thinking about two shoes. Do you think the Pegasus 41 is better or the adidas adizero sl2 is better?
SL2 edges the ancient Pegasus not that the Nike is a bad shoe.
Please make a video on what shoes to invest in for plantar fasciitis patients like us. Please please please. Thank you
You have P F?
What do you think of Under Armour Hovr as a budget option?
What are your thoughts on the new balance more v5??
Superblasts just keep my feet and legs comfy during and after ❤
Yeah it may feel firm, but it's so protective.
I love these shoe videos that are very informative. you should try to make a video about altar running shoes.
Can you give us an insight what your general paces are? You mention marathon pace, but that could be 4min/km or 6:30min/km 😅
Congrats on Berlin Ben! What shoe did run in? Great vid, Superblast 2 would be nice for sure in my collection.
Glad this game up, I’m looking to get some new shoes
Brooks Hyperion Max 2 for me
Magnify nitro 2 should have been on the list instead of the Velocity Nitros: you can get them from 50€ to 100€ nowadays.
Have you ever reviewed Craft shoes?
Hi Ben. Can you review On Running Shoes their latest Cloudboom strike. Thanks and More power
I wonder how Balos would fit into this mix
Can you review the brooks glycerin max
Do you have recommendation for my son? He's 13 years old, very skinny and running mostly 1500m
Just picked up a pair of superblast 2’s in Japan for 135 pounds! Unbelievable
…well, I have 2 of the 3. makes sense as I am gearing up to my first 50 miler.., and possibly a 100K soon..
great video as always
BTW what is the distance of your long run to be called it long run?
SC Trainer is so horrible expensive in Europe (Germany)
I got lots of shoes but dont see the point of spending 250€ (what is a race shoe price for me) for a trainer.
New Balance 1080 for me ❤
I’m a 5k-10k runner.. what is a “long” run?
I’ve always said long runs don’t apply to me since my max distance is 6 maybe 7mi. I have no aspirations to run a marathon of any sorts.
Smart don't do them I did plenty 40 years ago then 1/2's 14 years ago! Do what you are doing these ppl will get injured eventually. Your health will be just fine! It is not how many miles you run but how you run them! More does not equal better health. Lift weights also and walk briskly(enjoy it though) don't run every day you'll enjoy your running even more
Not a hater but if you are someone like who want shoes around $80, these are super expensive.
My avg distance is 70 km/week.
So i do need multiple shoes. The best method that has worked for me is to wait for older models and get at 50% or if you want something super cheap. Joes new balance outlet is one of the best shop out there, wait for deal (2 in $100). You can save alot and get premium experience
Yeah I always buy the previous edition. It's so much cheaper.
Bang on. Puma Velocity Nitro 2 right now from Start Fitness or SportsShoes is 🔥
I have used Joe's I need to check back today in need of foam I must say I bought the NB fuel cell v4 I believe for $110 it really is terrific for speed work and the track I have been in the MT 481's for years they loose their 'bounce go flat after 300 miles(?) BUT they are safe to wear comfortable, stable. I don't race and haven't in decades I'm not paying $35 to run a 5k and win 70-74 age group lol
got vn3 in mid year with 35%+20% disc🥰
For 80 Kg, what's your advice for long distance train ...
Adidas adizero sl?
Team Puma ❤
Are they any good for ultramarathons?
How about the Saucony hurricanes?
Did I notice new long sleeve running tops, that are hopefully dropping soon??🤞🤞😊
Should be out Monday evening or Tuesday morning!Thank you you Matt!
currently waiting for my 75usd velocity 2. I cancelled my nike revolution 7 after wandering around youtube 😂. 100usd for shoes just way too much for me 😅
Iv heard for comfy easy miles the asics nova b 4 is very good
No Adizero SL!? That's an awesome and comparatively good value shoe.