I am so glad these women pens were made. Now the manliness of normal pens won't break my hands and spirit from the sheer manliness attacking my delicate female flower soul.
Look at the sexism... Even today. We still get paid less than men and in many cases are still looked upon as objects (Playboy, many ads directed at men).
If you watched this video you would have noticed Csoery was quoting Ellen and finding it Funny... So way to be rude for no reason and it not even make sense.
Lol, just read a few of the Reviews of this... This one was my favourite by far "I can't find a switch to turn it on, and it didn't come with batteries. This is not the "for her" product I was expecting. At all"
I think it's hilarious that pink and purple are considered "girl colors", when purple used to be the color of kings (because purple dye for clothing was expensive as hell back in the middle ages due to the fact it was made by crushing a rare beetle) and pink was a "boy's color" until the 1940s, when Hitler used a pink triangle to mark homosexuals.
Also, men were generally the more decorated and wore make up, wigs, clothes with ruffles and high heels. Women generally wore plainer colors, practical dresses and covered up hair. It’s only in recent 100 years that it’s switched around.
Whenever women say "I'm not a feminist" or "I don't believe in feminism" I feel like they have sorely missed the point of what feminism is... Feminism is NOT about hating men or saying women should take over the world. Ignore all the extremist feminists. Feminism is about equality. Why are people not calling this movement 'equality' instead of 'Feminism' then? Because a lot of the changes we need to enact need to begin with the way women are treated. We mustn't forget that a lot of women in less-developed countries are still fighting for rights that we take for granted. Female genital mutilation is still a huge thing in certain parts of continental Africa. If you say you don't believe in Feminism you're just making light of all the work of earlier feminists. That means you don't think we should be allowed to have jobs, have our own finances, use birth control or vote. Men would also not be able to take up jobs that are stigmatised as being "female" because of the negative associations with it eg makeup artists, nurses, etc.
If you meet self-proclaimed 'feminists' that say that men are 'pigs' and 'rapists', honestly those people are feminazis and aren't indicative of what feminists really think. Their extreme opinions just cause more misunderstandings and ridicule, and should rightly be put to a stop, but the things that true feminists fight for should not be lumped into the same group. I suggest you get away from those feminazis and acquaint yourself with feminists, because you have got the idea totally wrong.
Feminists support equality, but their focus is on issues that affect females. i.e. combating problems that affect females in order to ensure there is equality. Different movements have their own desired goals. With respect to your statement about feminists always being unreasonable/ extreme, you'll often find that empty vessels make the most noise, so you'll find a lot of ignorant so-called 'feminists' with pointless endeavours that ruin the image of what being a feminist is. Also, such ignorant people are given more media coverage because they sell papers and airtime. They are entertaining. I'm sorry you have such a terrible idea of what feminists are, and I know that there are a lot of issues that fall into those difficult grey areas, and that there are men that fall through the cracks and lose custody of children/ are abused as well. However, the fact that violence against women, particularly sexual abuse/ domestic abuse/ date rape etc is a growing and worrying statistic, means that we need to cut down on these numbers asap and that's why that has been given so much focus. I read your other comments and I'm glad to see that you're only against radical feminists and do support women's rights/issues. Sadly not everyone shares your views. Thank you for that, though.
DId I say I ONLY fight for women's issues? I said that feminists support women's issues and try to resolve them. Also you can't just define feminists as being 'middle-class', we come in all sorts of classes, races, nations. My identity is not solely defined as a 'feminist'. I am a 'middle-class' citizen, fighting for things that everyone fights for as well. Better healthcare, better laws, better education, stopping racism, stopping LGBTQ+ hate, et cetera. This means that I support and believe in many causes and being a feminist does not mean that I =ONLY= support issues that affect women. Everyone is made up of a multitude of identities- their race, religion, sex, other beliefs. Do not whittle me down to simply being a 'narcissistic female'. You presume too much. If you think that I don't care about men, then so be it. There is no arguing with you. I already conceded that there are many issues, many problems, and that your arguments are valid. I have acknowledged that you have a point. If you're going to persist in insisting that I am a selfish, narcissistic person, then so be it. I know what I support, all the many causes I stand for, and not all of them are selfish in nature.
***** Your main focus can be on one thing because it is a big problem. That does not mean you cannot focus on other issues. You are arguing for very little reason, as no one is patronizing you or belittling your ideas. We advocate for the rights that women and men should have, but it just so happens that women do not have those rights. I have done intense research, especially recently, and I am only 16, but can understand that women are still not given what they deserve. And it is meant to be selfish; if you want to look after yourself, you need to be selfish. We are not vindictive in our goals. We apologize if our ideals don't match yours. I would also like to add, as a side note, that males can be feminists, and can realize and understand that women are still not treated equally. I am not sure why you are constantly trying to argue with the people who have commented on here; it makes you seem very stubborn and regressive, and the people who have commented other than you have been quite kind in their comments, whereas you are overly critical (although this is my personal interpretation, and I am not imposing on your character).
Its absolutely unnecessary to put any kind of gender label on products, especially pens. Like some of you people stated on the comments, men and women both have the same hand structure. For heaven's sake, no need to specify pens for each gender, with colors that are liked by some girls and stereotyped as every woman's favorite colors.
We should all wear the same underwear too. Because fuck it, marketing something towards a specific gender is a crime. I should be getting upset about how Gillette makes different razor blade for men and women. I get that they should of offered more colors to avoid stereotypes, but the fact is men and women have different hands. If someone makes a pen that fits a woman's hand why get upset about it?
Olivia Michelle So why would BIC spend millions of dollars in design and production to make a pen targeted for women? Oh but they're sexist, yeah makes total sense.
Toma Valentin I don't know. Cosmetics are just cosmetics, men could wear them too. There are perfumes and scents that we consider feminine and masculine, but you don't necessarily have to label it as "for men" or "for women" instead you could use colours and names. A purple bottle with the scent "lavender" should be plenty.
Stephanie Manley I watched like 4 more after that one. You need to watch the one about when she Googled herself. She is hilarious and has such a witty sarcastic sense of humor.
Sir Isaac I get what Ellen did and agree, but there is indisputable evidence that pink colored items attract female consumers, whether pink is a women stereotype or not. Facebook the article about Michelin ect - they came out with pink vehicle tires (yes I know), and there were thousands of comments of women tagging other women and how they all loved it.
Sir Isaac there's a woman on extreme makeover home edition that wears/uses pink tools and construction clothing to "still be girly" in the man fueld business. It might be impossible to do, but I can guarantee if they logged who bought these pink pens, the extreme majority would be women. Which would negate Ellen's argument
+Pedro Afonso You do have the time there was just nothing wrong with what I said and you know it. Your knee-jerk reaction is just to white-knight for women.
Ellen has made a great point that most people are missing here. Not only that women get paid less but that womens products are also more expensive. This is called a PINK TAX. Yes, it has a name and it exists in many countries. Of course that in much more "EQUAL" and "FREE" countries than the united states they have banned this tax because it makes no sense to make women pay more just because their products are for women only. Man I love Europe.. And Ellen ;)
Yes. This angers me and I have ranted about this many times.. Not only do women get paid less in some jobs, but everything marketed towards women always costs more.. Soap, deodorant, razors, clothes... Not to mention the fact that we have to buy things that men will never have to worry about, such as bras or tampons (ever calculate how much you spend yearly on those items alone? It hurts my soul)... This pen is just an ordinary pen.. only difference is that it's smaller and comes in pink or purple.. I doubt it will enhance my writing. Why would I pay more for it? Why not label it just a "pen for smaller hands" because as people already pointed out, children too have smaller hands... So stupid!
The wage gap is actually a myth. That study that suggested that was based off the average salary per year a women makes(not based off her job just the average of all working women's salary) vs how much a male makes. The only thing this study could suggest is that men tend to work in higher paying jobs. Plus if this was true why don't all business owners hire women since there cheaper to pay and after all were equal(based off what others claim)
dylan peacock " Plus if this was true why don't all business owners hire women since there cheaper to pay and after all were equal(based off what others claim)" This is because men are seen as inherently more valuable just because they are men, regardless of experience, skill, or education comparable to an equal female candidate for the same job. So the employer chooses the man, falsely thinking they're getting a better employee, worth a higher paycheck and somehow more qualified because of their gender.
+dylan peacock And why are there less women working in higher paying jobs? Why are there so little women (and colored people) the farther up into management and politics? Why are more women not pursuing jobs in STEM fields? Why does what a manager say about a resume change when the only thing that's different is the names gender? Why was there a well recognized scientist, who when she changed to be female overheard someone criticizing her paper saying "Her work is good, but not as good as her brother." when she had no brother... We don't live in a vacuum, these things don't happen just because.
+Sweet SweeetHistory Some, more rarely as time goes on, may be physically weaker, mentally never. We can think with our hearts as well as our minds, while some men only their penis, but luckily for many, the thoughts are the same regardless of the size. I don't claim to be a feminist even though I've been told it's stupid not to be. Labels are lame and I only defend myself and ANY others that need defending. The truth can never hurt if one, it is in fact the truth and two, it is something to learn from. Good luck on your trolling journey.
+Sweet SweeetHistory oh my good lord, finally, someone said it, because women are completely incapable of withstanding the enormous weight of a 5 gram pen...😒😒 get a grip.. Literally.
Wow, RIP BIC! Ellen just destroyed your company, laid off a big chunk of your workforce who can easily sustain them selves & you where made an example off because this is the way to woman equality.
Some women do like pink, but the idea that they actually decided to make pens just for women baffles me. It's beyond patronising. I only just discovered this, but clearly pens we're selling at the time so they thought- feminist outrage, that'll do it. To be fair, who buys pens anymore? Most of my pens are stolen or free so desperate times call for desperate measures.
I laughed soooo hatd when i seen this...i started to get that hysterical laugh going where you can't stop! Didn't stop me from watching two more times that day. And i laughed just as hard. O.M.G your friggń hilarious Ellen...Every day that i have you in my life...is one more day I'm glad to be alive.
Everyone in this comment section! Hi! I have something of great importance to announce! *clears throat* YOU'RE ARGUING OVER FUCKING PENS! Thank you, that is all.
They are pretty actually.But they should have named it something else..its not that men can't use these.I mean,come on,,those are just pens!Why lebel it :/
After purchasing this pen from amazon and receiving it in the mail, I was disappointed to find it didn't come with batteries. Maybe this was not the "for her" product I needed in my life
They say feminists are always ready to get angry at everything and don't have a sense of humor, but reading the comments it seems to me like the exact opposite. All these people talking about women and men's purpose on the planet and stuff.. hello, this is supposed to be funny. Ellen is a (great) comedian and is supposed to make fun at those kind of things, it's her job. Get over yourself, geez.
But... its, not funny? I mean, maybe a simpleton will laugh at this, but its just basic as hell... And doesn't relate with anyone. For example, if you like pink and purple, you buy the pen and it has a cosmetic satisfaction for a little extra cost. The pen is meant for women, so naturally they will market more towards that demographic.. Now, if you don't like the pen, you don't buy it. What is the joke based on, a pen? Its just not funny, and Ellen is assuming BIC is coming from a condescending standpoint, when they really are simply trying to give women a choice to have a pen just for them or to buy the regular crap. There is no setup for this joke, its boring and simple. Only a radical feminist would find this humorous.
The majority of the comments just made me lose the little hope I still had in humanity. C'mon guys, Ellen made a good point, making pens focused on one sex is ridiculous. Stop bitchin' about it.
She uses the humor to diffuse the tension but she's completely right. Think about it if you just read her script instead of listening to her presence it makes them more powerful.
this isn't really about feminism... and all the men arguing about her blowing this up are why these stupid products exist in the first place. Why not just make pens of any color and have people buy them to their preference. Or does that sound too much like making sense... sigh... sadly, Ellen gave them the advertising they wanted anyway
Sara Brown I really don't give a fig about your sexuality, either. I'll never get over the conceit of you people who go "gee I hope you're kidding!" and then launch into a giant rant as if it matters. Goooooo away.
No complaints increase. "Ms. Smith, I had to ask your daughter you stop keeping her in pens in her underwear 5 times before I kicked her out my class. She never made it to the principal's office. We found her in the empty auditorium and the pens were back in her underwear. Please call me as soon as possible to arrange a conference."
If you think about it, the BIC marketing department made a smart move by calling Ellen to be their spokesperson (if they did actually call her). They knew, being a feminist, she would rant on about the pen and give them free publicity. You know what they say, any publicity is good publicity. About the pen, I agree they shouldn't have said the line is just for women, although you will rarely find a man using a pink pen...
The fact that men are more pressured to not wear/own pink shit than women are to wear nothing but pink (I honestly can't think of a single colour that women tend not to wear) is sexism. BUT IN THE END, WHO THE FUCK CARES????
Gendered items are just so stupid. and the stupidity cuts both way. Did you know that there was some bakery store selling doughnuts for men and they seriously called it "Bronut"? And their products looks the exactly the same as any other doughnuts, with some of the same fillings... only they choose to market it as somehow being more "macho" than the everyday doughnuts that women and men buy on a regular basis. on top of it, they made it more overpriced for the macho doughnuts. In a way I guess that's one way men gets a taste of what women go though everyday. most of the feminine products are actually the exact same as men's, such as shaving razors. the price is hiked up so that women end up paying more for the same exact product that men are buying too. It's only the packaging that is different, but the product on the inside is the exact same. when you really think about it, it's just stupid.
+Sheila Sarathy Did you hear when she said it's pink so it costs twice as much? Nobody is playing the victim. It's ridiculous that a pen made for women has to cost twice as much as a normal pen. And why do women need a separate pen than men? As if a "bic for him" pen would ever be made.
ellen is so cool i love ellen so much like i dont think you understand how much i look up to ellen ellen is the best i wish i could hug ellen i love ellen
Hey, thanks for equating the first country in the world to give women the vote with everything that's wrong with how men treat women today. Really appreciate it.
Finally some lady pens for my tiny delicate woman hands. Think all those years I had to use the complicated manly pens but now with bic for her i can write anything my delicate lady soul desires.
From experience I can give a specific example in one office setting. In a veterinary office where I worked, the male tech had been employed by the office for the shortest period of time, and was given the 'head tech' position over every other technician (all female) even though he was bested by seniority, and one tech he was promoted over had 20 someodd years experience in her field, experience in another clinic as office manager, and 6 years with the office to his 1.
I really don't see how this product is in any way offensive to women, and I strongly believe no one would have even noticed this product nor had any bone to pick with it had Ellen not brought it up. Tons of companies make versions of their product in pink or purple and then brand it as being for ladies, and it has nothing to do with saying the product is inferior or for inferior people -- that's totally ridiculous. If women tend to buy more pink and purple products (whatever the underlying reason may be), then it's no one's fault the companies keep making them other than that of the people who keep buying them and perpetuating a demand for such products. Furthermore, if the pen was designed to be more ergonomic for smaller hands (which is a biological reality of being female), then that's simply a harmless product design issue, and it's absolutely absurd to fabricate some story that BIC had any intention in making a product that would be "divisive" in any way. It's simply another pink/purple product among millions. Ellen is a brilliant comedian and an admirable activist, but this must have simply been a slow day at the office for Ellen's writers.
First, just because you don't see how it's offensive to women doesn't meant it's not offensive to women, nor does it mean that women have no right to be offended by it just because you don't see how it's offensive. The offense likely has everything to do with perspective and history, and it is a gross demonstration of male privelege to say "Well, because I don't see the offense, you women must be acting irrationally again." Second, "designed to be more ergonomic for smaller hands" is not a "biological reality of being female." It is a biological reality of having smaller hands. The fact of the matter is that, while it may be statistically more likely for an average woman to have smaller hands than an average man, there is nothing about a pen designed for smaller hands that makes it intrinsically "for her." Does that make a woman who doesn't find the grip of a "for her" pen less feminine? Does it make a man who likes the feel of a "for her" pen less masculine? If you don't see how this product is offensive to women, I don't see how it could NOT be offensive to human beings. It is ridiculous to market something as gender-specific when it is as ubiquitous to human life and has as little to do with the gender differences between men and women as a PEN.
sixheadeddog The fact that you can be so angry about something with such little importance shows how you are as a person. You're angry at the world and hate men. Considering the company took the time, energy, and money to create a pen they feel would fit a smaller hand better goes against everything you are saying. Shouldn't men be mad that there wasn't a pen designed specifically for them? Oh wait, that's right, a normal person wouldn't care.
I don't feel offended by the product, but I do think it's quite ridiculous. They also asked Ellen to advertise the product! The reality is that these pens did not sell, and the idea is a flop because it's silly and unnecessary to have different writing utensils for "him"/"her".
Alex Wasson Thousands of little important things put down together... When you actually look at it from a different perspective, it truly gets repulsive.
The sad thing about all this are two things. If I know marketing as I think I do, this is probably based on a public opinion. I don't think that only the people at BIC has been sitting around going "hey! We need a pen for women". Someone has probably written an e-mail or something like that and said they wanted a pen for women. Sad thing #2 is that these will probably sell pretty well. Women and men who don't really give a hoot about equality will go and buy these thinking that there is a product aimed at them or as a great gift for the little 'ol lady. As Macklemore said "No freedom until we're equal" but sadly enough...we're not there yet...
I am so glad these women pens were made. Now the manliness of normal pens won't break my hands and spirit from the sheer manliness attacking my delicate female flower soul.
Articulate. I'm dying xD
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Cant tell if you're being sarcastic or not
girl you killed me lol
Jeremy Folk seriously?😑
Slaying patriarchy, sexism and misogyny in 4 minutes. Ellen, love you
+Camila Gianoli
>patriarchy
no one is forcing the women to buy them
+The Suit Is NOT Black! Check the last 1000 years.
Look at the sexism... Even today. We still get paid less than men and in many cases are still looked upon as objects (Playboy, many ads directed at men).
I agree that things have gotten much better for us recently but there is still sexism out there and we need to fight against it.
Yesssss
"I had a man read the back of the package to me" cracked me up :D :D :D
Probably because you're a butch.
+Dan F I'm not a bitch (I assume you meant bitch), and I laughed.
+Simon Fox I'm pretty sure he meant butch.
If you watched this video you would have noticed Csoery was quoting Ellen and finding it Funny... So way to be rude for no reason and it not even make sense.
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Lol, just read a few of the Reviews of this...
This one was my favourite by far "I can't find a switch to turn it on, and it didn't come with batteries. This is not the "for her" product I was expecting. At all"
I think it's hilarious that pink and purple are considered "girl colors", when purple used to be the color of kings (because purple dye for clothing was expensive as hell back in the middle ages due to the fact it was made by crushing a rare beetle) and pink was a "boy's color" until the 1940s, when Hitler used a pink triangle to mark homosexuals.
Purple was for all royalty, not just kings
Also, men were generally the more decorated and wore make up, wigs, clothes with ruffles and high heels. Women generally wore plainer colors, practical dresses and covered up hair. It’s only in recent 100 years that it’s switched around.
Paradoxical Intention As straight white male wich most people think the source of toxic masculinty and I love the colors people call “girlish colors”
Paradoxical Intention something this to say to you as well
So yeah I might have to make opinion of Nisa about that too so yeah do I say thank you because I do need all the help I need
Whenever women say "I'm not a feminist" or "I don't believe in feminism" I feel like they have sorely missed the point of what feminism is... Feminism is NOT about hating men or saying women should take over the world. Ignore all the extremist feminists. Feminism is about equality.
Why are people not calling this movement 'equality' instead of 'Feminism' then? Because a lot of the changes we need to enact need to begin with the way women are treated. We mustn't forget that a lot of women in less-developed countries are still fighting for rights that we take for granted. Female genital mutilation is still a huge thing in certain parts of continental Africa.
If you say you don't believe in Feminism you're just making light of all the work of earlier feminists. That means you don't think we should be allowed to have jobs, have our own finances, use birth control or vote. Men would also not be able to take up jobs that are stigmatised as being "female" because of the negative associations with it eg makeup artists, nurses, etc.
If you meet self-proclaimed 'feminists' that say that men are 'pigs' and 'rapists', honestly those people are feminazis and aren't indicative of what feminists really think. Their extreme opinions just cause more misunderstandings and ridicule, and should rightly be put to a stop, but the things that true feminists fight for should not be lumped into the same group. I suggest you get away from those feminazis and acquaint yourself with feminists, because you have got the idea totally wrong.
Feminists support equality, but their focus is on issues that affect females. i.e. combating problems that affect females in order to ensure there is equality. Different movements have their own desired goals.
With respect to your statement about feminists always being unreasonable/ extreme, you'll often find that empty vessels make the most noise, so you'll find a lot of ignorant so-called 'feminists' with pointless endeavours that ruin the image of what being a feminist is.
Also, such ignorant people are given more media coverage because they sell papers and airtime. They are entertaining.
I'm sorry you have such a terrible idea of what feminists are, and I know that there are a lot of issues that fall into those difficult grey areas, and that there are men that fall through the cracks and lose custody of children/ are abused as well. However, the fact that violence against women, particularly sexual abuse/ domestic abuse/ date rape etc is a growing and worrying statistic, means that we need to cut down on these numbers asap and that's why that has been given so much focus.
I read your other comments and I'm glad to see that you're only against radical feminists and do support women's rights/issues. Sadly not everyone shares your views. Thank you for that, though.
DId I say I ONLY fight for women's issues? I said that feminists support women's issues and try to resolve them. Also you can't just define feminists as being 'middle-class', we come in all sorts of classes, races, nations.
My identity is not solely defined as a 'feminist'. I am a 'middle-class' citizen, fighting for things that everyone fights for as well. Better healthcare, better laws, better education, stopping racism, stopping LGBTQ+ hate, et cetera. This means that I support and believe in many causes and being a feminist does not mean that I =ONLY= support issues that affect women. Everyone is made up of a multitude of identities- their race, religion, sex, other beliefs. Do not whittle me down to simply being a 'narcissistic female'.
You presume too much. If you think that I don't care about men, then so be it. There is no arguing with you. I already conceded that there are many issues, many problems, and that your arguments are valid. I have acknowledged that you have a point. If you're going to persist in insisting that I am a selfish, narcissistic person, then so be it. I know what I support, all the many causes I stand for, and not all of them are selfish in nature.
***** She'll never admit it, but that's the way it is.
***** Your main focus can be on one thing because it is a big problem. That does not mean you cannot focus on other issues. You are arguing for very little reason, as no one is patronizing you or belittling your ideas. We advocate for the rights that women and men should have, but it just so happens that women do not have those rights. I have done intense research, especially recently, and I am only 16, but can understand that women are still not given what they deserve. And it is meant to be selfish; if you want to look after yourself, you need to be selfish. We are not vindictive in our goals. We apologize if our ideals don't match yours. I would also like to add, as a side note, that males can be feminists, and can realize and understand that women are still not treated equally. I am not sure why you are constantly trying to argue with the people who have commented on here; it makes you seem very stubborn and regressive, and the people who have commented other than you have been quite kind in their comments, whereas you are overly critical (although this is my personal interpretation, and I am not imposing on your character).
An ad for the bic pen just popped up on this video. I'm done.
Get AdBlock yo come on
+POGO Didn't AdBlock cause UA-cam Red?
Its absolutely unnecessary to put any kind of gender label on products, especially pens. Like some of you people stated on the comments, men and women both have the same hand structure. For heaven's sake, no need to specify pens for each gender, with colors that are liked by some girls and stereotyped as every woman's favorite colors.
what about cosmetics? clothes?
We should all wear the same underwear too. Because fuck it, marketing something towards a specific gender is a crime. I should be getting upset about how Gillette makes different razor blade for men and women. I get that they should of offered more colors to avoid stereotypes, but the fact is men and women have different hands. If someone makes a pen that fits a woman's hand why get upset about it?
Skeptical171 It is CLEARLY not designed for womens hands, are you that stupid you would buy into their excuse
Olivia Michelle So why would BIC spend millions of dollars in design and production to make a pen targeted for women? Oh but they're sexist, yeah makes total sense.
Toma Valentin I don't know. Cosmetics are just cosmetics, men could wear them too. There are perfumes and scents that we consider feminine and masculine, but you don't necessarily have to label it as "for men" or "for women" instead you could use colours and names.
A purple bottle with the scent "lavender" should be plenty.
This is about the most stupid, unnecessary product I've ever seen!
Apple made a pencil yes no joke a fucking pencil
Ikr. What's next?
_Toilet paper: For her_
Doritos company: You’re going to love what we have for you
MLG Bill Cipher That Apple Pencil is for artists, designers, professionals who have demanded that Apple make a Stylus for years.
hey peeps
I didn't know I needed a pen. My own lady pen in their lady colors.
That was hilarious
Stephanie Manley Absolutely Laurie DesAutels
Scratch Cooking Archives I saw the amazon stuff awhile back, but I didn't see Ellen's video. The more I see Ellen the more I like her.
Stephanie Manley I watched like 4 more after that one. You need to watch the one about when she Googled herself. She is hilarious and has such a witty sarcastic sense of humor.
Laurie DesAutels she is a very funny lady. I love her clips on you tube
I love Ellen
Sir Isaac I get what Ellen did and agree, but there is indisputable evidence that pink colored items attract female consumers, whether pink is a women stereotype or not. Facebook the article about Michelin ect - they came out with pink vehicle tires (yes I know), and there were thousands of comments of women tagging other women and how they all loved it.
Sir Isaac there's a woman on extreme makeover home edition that wears/uses pink tools and construction clothing to "still be girly" in the man fueld business. It might be impossible to do, but I can guarantee if they logged who bought these pink pens, the extreme majority would be women. Which would negate Ellen's argument
Sir Isaac gjf Missouri
Me To
Do you still love her?
"I wish my mom would have talked to me about lady pens" is just brilliant !
Someone here for Coursea? Grettings from Peru
Even as a 48 year old, european, latin man...I find this ridiculous...
Really, BIC?
+plexdo I dont have time to explain why I have no time to explain how this is stupid in so many ways...
+Pedro Afonso You do have the time there was just nothing wrong with what I said and you know it. Your knee-jerk reaction is just to white-knight for women.
+plexdo I did not meant you, but the whole concept. I m too old to be wearing armour, mate.
+Pedro Afonso Never heard about a knight who said: "I'm too old to wear armor!"
+Most You should get off more often, I never said I was one and I have a couple of brothers that agree with me.
Peace.
Here from Coursera. Anyone else?
Who came here because of coursera
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Me!😂
@@BrendahAriesAkothhow’s your course going
Meee😂
My life is a big lie...I WAS USING MEN'S PEN ALL THIS TIME!
Ellen has made a great point that most people are missing here. Not only that women get paid less but that womens products are also more expensive. This is called a PINK TAX. Yes, it has a name and it exists in many countries. Of course that in much more "EQUAL" and "FREE" countries than the united states they have banned this tax because it makes no sense to make women pay more just because their products are for women only. Man I love Europe.. And Ellen ;)
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Yes. This angers me and I have ranted about this many times.. Not only do women get paid less in some jobs, but everything marketed towards women always costs more.. Soap, deodorant, razors, clothes... Not to mention the fact that we have to buy things that men will never have to worry about, such as bras or tampons (ever calculate how much you spend yearly on those items alone? It hurts my soul)... This pen is just an ordinary pen.. only difference is that it's smaller and comes in pink or purple.. I doubt it will enhance my writing. Why would I pay more for it? Why not label it just a "pen for smaller hands" because as people already pointed out, children too have smaller hands... So stupid!
The wage gap is actually a myth. That study that suggested that was based off the average salary per year a women makes(not based off her job just the average of all working women's salary) vs how much a male makes. The only thing this study could suggest is that men tend to work in higher paying jobs. Plus if this was true why don't all business owners hire women since there cheaper to pay and after all were equal(based off what others claim)
dylan peacock " Plus if this was true why don't all business owners hire women since there cheaper to pay and after all were equal(based off what others claim)"
This is because men are seen as inherently more valuable just because they are men, regardless of experience, skill, or education comparable to an equal female candidate for the same job. So the employer chooses the man, falsely thinking they're getting a better employee, worth a higher paycheck and somehow more qualified because of their gender.
+dylan peacock And why are there less women working in higher paying jobs? Why are there so little women (and colored people) the farther up into management and politics? Why are more women not pursuing jobs in STEM fields? Why does what a manager say about a resume change when the only thing that's different is the names gender? Why was there a well recognized scientist, who when she changed to be female overheard someone criticizing her paper saying "Her work is good, but not as good as her brother." when she had no brother... We don't live in a vacuum, these things don't happen just because.
Read the reviews for this on Amazon!!
Thank you, I did! They`re priceless!
Omg 😂😂😂 they're awesome
My Gawd Thank you for the suggestion 😂
it's definitely worth a visit! thanks!!
Thank you so much omg
Maybe they're made to withstand our tough grip made from putting up with men so long without killing them...?
Yes that must be it!!!
maybe they are lighter because women are biologically weaker. Hups the truth slipped through there for a moment i know feminists hate the trurth sorry
+Sweet SweeetHistory Some, more rarely as time goes on, may be physically weaker, mentally never. We can think with our hearts as well as our minds, while some men only their penis, but luckily for many, the thoughts are the same regardless of the size. I don't claim to be a feminist even though I've been told it's stupid not to be. Labels are lame and I only defend myself and ANY others that need defending. The truth can never hurt if one, it is in fact the truth and two, it is something to learn from. Good luck on your trolling journey.
+Sweet SweeetHistory Also, on behalf of millions, practice safe grammar.
+Sweet SweeetHistory oh my good lord, finally, someone said it, because women are completely incapable of withstanding the enormous weight of a 5 gram pen...😒😒 get a grip.. Literally.
Thank you, Ellen, for being so crass, thoughtful, well-spoken, and humourous! I laughed so hard at this clip I was in tears!!
mmm.... noo... noo.. no. no no. no... noooooo.....
who came here from instagram? 😂
facebook lol
Yup
me 😂
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Hi Ellen! I just got a google acount and you where the first person i subscribed to because you are AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!:)
This sketch is smart and funny and as good as anything on late night talk shows.
More sketches like this, please.
Wow, RIP BIC! Ellen just destroyed your company, laid off a big chunk of your workforce who can easily sustain them selves & you where made an example off because this is the way to woman equality.
+Faceless Man how did sje objectify men
Some women do like pink, but the idea that they actually decided to make pens just for women baffles me. It's beyond patronising. I only just discovered this, but clearly pens we're selling at the time so they thought- feminist outrage, that'll do it. To be fair, who buys pens anymore? Most of my pens are stolen or free so desperate times call for desperate measures.
+Akeem J.A.S.S someone has to buy them. Otherwise, were the stolen come from?
Daniel. Too much rational thought for the feminist socialist.
Plus they’re $15 for a pack of 2 pens
I laughed soooo hatd when i seen this...i started to get that hysterical laugh going where you can't stop! Didn't stop me from watching two more times that day. And i laughed just as hard. O.M.G your friggń hilarious Ellen...Every day that i have you in my life...is one more day I'm glad to be alive.
Thank you Ellen
Everyone in this comment section!
Hi!
I have something of great importance to announce!
*clears throat*
YOU'RE ARGUING OVER FUCKING PENS!
Thank you, that is all.
They're not just pens, they're pens for women!
Chris Stark ....absolutely
Thanks for all you do, Ellen! You're an amazing human.
One of the best monologue
Ellen, you are amazing! Thanks for the laugh and for keeping it real through humor.
Is the pen operated with your genitals? If so I don't think it's a pen
If they added a vibrating action "you'd" probably be using it that way!
as I'm watching this video, I keep glancing at the Bic For Her pens on my desk and feeling guilty... but... I like purple...
They are pretty actually.But they should have named it something else..its not that men can't use these.I mean,come on,,those are just pens!Why lebel it :/
নুসরাত ফারিহা It's because men have such big strong hands we may break them....yeah right haha! It's sexist and degrading to women everywhere.
Thanks for posting thiss...Ellen is too funny.
After purchasing this pen from amazon and receiving it in the mail, I was disappointed to find it didn't come with batteries.
Maybe this was not the "for her" product I needed in my life
Thank GOD there's a special pen for women. I didn't know what I would do I'm so embarrassed I've been using a pen for men all these years! Thanks bic
They say feminists are always ready to get angry at everything and don't have a sense of humor, but reading the comments it seems to me like the exact opposite. All these people talking about women and men's purpose on the planet and stuff.. hello, this is supposed to be funny. Ellen is a (great) comedian and is supposed to make fun at those kind of things, it's her job. Get over yourself, geez.
But... its, not funny? I mean, maybe a simpleton will laugh at this, but its just basic as hell... And doesn't relate with anyone. For example, if you like pink and purple, you buy the pen and it has a cosmetic satisfaction for a little extra cost. The pen is meant for women, so naturally they will market more towards that demographic.. Now, if you don't like the pen, you don't buy it. What is the joke based on, a pen? Its just not funny, and Ellen is assuming BIC is coming from a condescending standpoint, when they really are simply trying to give women a choice to have a pen just for them or to buy the regular crap. There is no setup for this joke, its boring and simple. Only a radical feminist would find this humorous.
_TheCrazyCat_ wya you say it like that
lol Bic is ridiculous. Ellen, you are so precious and hilarious.
Hey Ellen,
Thanks for the Free advertisement!
Yours Sincerely,
Bic Pens ;)
The majority of the comments just made me lose the little hope I still had in humanity. C'mon guys, Ellen made a good point, making pens focused on one sex is ridiculous. Stop bitchin' about it.
She uses the humor to diffuse the tension but she's completely right. Think about it if you just read her script instead of listening to her presence it makes them more powerful.
Never get tired of watching this video and showing it to my students. Thank you Ellen. Happy Women's Day!
Hola ellen soy de guadalajara , soy fan tuyo , se que eres un gran ser humano , .y me encanta tu programa.
Reading the comments, it seems a lot of people don't have a sense of humor....what a bummer.
The question is... are they really different, or just some offensive marketing ploy.
Well, they are more expensive, so that's different.
This in incredible, I am dead with the commercial😂😝
took me awhile to realise that was ellen in the commercial XD
Surprised she didn't make a certain joke.
this isn't really about feminism... and all the men arguing about her blowing this up are why these stupid products exist in the first place. Why not just make pens of any color and have people buy them to their preference. Or does that sound too much like making sense... sigh... sadly, Ellen gave them the advertising they wanted anyway
Thank you for saying that
"It all started a few weeks ago when I clicked on an Ellen video. I can't get out of here!''. :)
Make them vibrate. Complaints stop overnight.
You weren't asked a question!?
Sara Brown I really don't give a fig about your sexuality, either. I'll never get over the conceit of you people who go "gee I hope you're kidding!" and then launch into a giant rant as if it matters.
Goooooo away.
***** Take a fucking joke, jesus.
No complaints increase. "Ms. Smith, I had to ask your daughter you stop keeping her in pens in her underwear 5 times before I kicked her out my class. She never made it to the principal's office. We found her in the empty auditorium and the pens were back in her underwear. Please call me as soon as possible to arrange a conference."
Holy jumping jesus, it was bloody joke god damn it. Get a sense of humor. ***** Sara Brown
If you think about it, the BIC marketing department made a smart move by calling Ellen to be their spokesperson (if they did actually call her). They knew, being a feminist, she would rant on about the pen and give them free publicity. You know what they say, any publicity is good publicity. About the pen, I agree they shouldn't have said the line is just for women, although you will rarely find a man using a pink pen...
The fact that men are more pressured to not wear/own pink shit than women are to wear nothing but pink (I honestly can't think of a single colour that women tend not to wear) is sexism.
BUT IN THE END, WHO THE FUCK CARES????
OMG!!! you always make me LAUGH!!!
Ellen, great as usual! Very funny
Love this video, Ellen!
But I can't help but notice that most comments including "how is this sexist?" come from men, lmao...
Gendered items are just so stupid. and the stupidity cuts both way. Did you know that there was some bakery store selling doughnuts for men and they seriously called it "Bronut"? And their products looks the exactly the same as any other doughnuts, with some of the same fillings... only they choose to market it as somehow being more "macho" than the everyday doughnuts that women and men buy on a regular basis. on top of it, they made it more overpriced for the macho doughnuts.
In a way I guess that's one way men gets a taste of what women go though everyday. most of the feminine products are actually the exact same as men's, such as shaving razors. the price is hiked up so that women end up paying more for the same exact product that men are buying too. It's only the packaging that is different, but the product on the inside is the exact same. when you really think about it, it's just stupid.
For a moment i thought that the dog was real 🤣🤣🤣
Wow - nice one, Ellen!
I don't even like pink or purple it's just a stupid stereotype I hate humanity
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+Phantastic Lol HUMANITY !! hah! & here I thought we were aliens, who came here fr a short stop, abduct humans, & do the prodding, and wat not!?!! >_
+Sheila Sarathy Did you hear when she said it's pink so it costs twice as much? Nobody is playing the victim. It's ridiculous that a pen made for women has to cost twice as much as a normal pen. And why do women need a separate pen than men? As if a "bic for him" pen would ever be made.
"Feel comfortable and forget we're not being paid as much"
OOF YES IM SCREAMING
Finally, now I can write my shopping lists
You rock Ellen!! :D
ellen is so cool
i love ellen so much
like i dont think you understand how much i look up to ellen
ellen is the best
i wish i could hug ellen
i love ellen
The dog!!!! can't stop laughing!!!
Hey, thanks for equating the first country in the world to give women the vote with everything that's wrong with how men treat women today. Really appreciate it.
This is amazing 😂😂
They left the doggy behind.....
Most clever product placement ever.
"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal."
Bic, for her? my 1st thought was: do they vibrate? That is so stupid, never buying a Bic product again.
I'm not sure if this was intended to be sexist, but I still cried from laughter 😂
+Laurel Cook shes making the point that this is sexist and it shouldn't be, a pen is a pen. and no I did not just say penis, I said PEN IS.
Lol! I have seen these in the Woolworths!
There was also a funny monologue about cars for women (I belive it was Honda) but I can't seem to find it. Is it still available to watch somewhere?
This is great, now i can get rid of this rock and chisel. It's been hard carrying it around to be honest.
there is a bread for ladies now in Chile, brand Ideal...the crazy people at marketing at Ideal invented this cxrap.
Do they vibrate??
Thanks a bunch. That comment section is a total gold mine of sarcasm. Can't stop laughing.
"Jim, no! That pen's a Bic For Her!"
"Wait, WHAT?!" (Jim's hand explodes)
Wow!! Fantastic!! Ellen Rocks!!
Finally some lady pens for my tiny delicate woman hands. Think all those years I had to use the complicated manly pens but now with bic for her i can write anything my delicate lady soul desires.
Haha i love the South Park reference at 2.15 :D
Bic should just name it Pastel Color pens because that's what they are
I wanna see BIC for Him and BIC for Intersex
i love ellen omg
If women don't want these pens then they won't sell. If the demand is there then that isn't BICs fault.
Thanks you. Thanks you so much.
XD LOL! :P This is so silly. I love Ellen.
The comment section is the reason why this video was made.
From experience I can give a specific example in one office setting. In a veterinary office where I worked, the male tech had been employed by the office for the shortest period of time, and was given the 'head tech' position over every other technician (all female) even though he was bested by seniority, and one tech he was promoted over had 20 someodd years experience in her field, experience in another clinic as office manager, and 6 years with the office to his 1.
It's amazing how I never grow tired of watching this and laughing out loud. She's the best, funny and yet SO right.
I really don't see how this product is in any way offensive to women, and I strongly believe no one would have even noticed this product nor had any bone to pick with it had Ellen not brought it up. Tons of companies make versions of their product in pink or purple and then brand it as being for ladies, and it has nothing to do with saying the product is inferior or for inferior people -- that's totally ridiculous. If women tend to buy more pink and purple products (whatever the underlying reason may be), then it's no one's fault the companies keep making them other than that of the people who keep buying them and perpetuating a demand for such products. Furthermore, if the pen was designed to be more ergonomic for smaller hands (which is a biological reality of being female), then that's simply a harmless product design issue, and it's absolutely absurd to fabricate some story that BIC had any intention in making a product that would be "divisive" in any way. It's simply another pink/purple product among millions. Ellen is a brilliant comedian and an admirable activist, but this must have simply been a slow day at the office for Ellen's writers.
You said all of that very well. Every time I thought of something to add, you addressed it.
First, just because you don't see how it's offensive to women doesn't meant it's not offensive to women, nor does it mean that women have no right to be offended by it just because you don't see how it's offensive. The offense likely has everything to do with perspective and history, and it is a gross demonstration of male privelege to say "Well, because I don't see the offense, you women must be acting irrationally again."
Second, "designed to be more ergonomic for smaller hands" is not a "biological reality of being female." It is a biological reality of having smaller hands. The fact of the matter is that, while it may be statistically more likely for an average woman to have smaller hands than an average man, there is nothing about a pen designed for smaller hands that makes it intrinsically "for her." Does that make a woman who doesn't find the grip of a "for her" pen less feminine? Does it make a man who likes the feel of a "for her" pen less masculine?
If you don't see how this product is offensive to women, I don't see how it could NOT be offensive to human beings. It is ridiculous to market something as gender-specific when it is as ubiquitous to human life and has as little to do with the gender differences between men and women as a PEN.
sixheadeddog The fact that you can be so angry about something with such little importance shows how you are as a person. You're angry at the world and hate men. Considering the company took the time, energy, and money to create a pen they feel would fit a smaller hand better goes against everything you are saying. Shouldn't men be mad that there wasn't a pen designed specifically for them? Oh wait, that's right, a normal person wouldn't care.
I don't feel offended by the product, but I do think it's quite ridiculous. They also asked Ellen to advertise the product! The reality is that these pens did not sell, and the idea is a flop because it's silly and unnecessary to have different writing utensils for "him"/"her".
Alex Wasson Thousands of little important things put down together... When you actually look at it from a different perspective, it truly gets repulsive.
The sad thing about all this are two things. If I know marketing as I think I do, this is probably based on a public opinion. I don't think that only the people at BIC has been sitting around going "hey! We need a pen for women". Someone has probably written an e-mail or something like that and said they wanted a pen for women. Sad thing #2 is that these will probably sell pretty well. Women and men who don't really give a hoot about equality will go and buy these thinking that there is a product aimed at them or as a great gift for the little 'ol lady.
As Macklemore said "No freedom until we're equal" but sadly enough...we're not there yet...
My mom actually got me these for Valentine's Days today,,,
Her simple and direct way to talk is just amazing!
Wow, Bic just got absolutely destroyed! Ellen is too funny sometimes.
I love you Ellen!! I'll never have to use another "man" pen again. Yeah!
I don't know how I got here, but I'm glad I did, :D
Bit of trivia:
The blurry background of the beach scene is in the 'commercial' is the famous clothing optional 'Blacks Beach' in La Jolla.