I just got an Elite, and first I noticed how he put the slide assembly on and that's not the way you reassemble an Elite. I had no failures in my initial range time with my Canik, shot roundnose and hollowpoints, 115, 124, and 147 grain. So far 👍
Ammo load is too light for your spring, that's why the brass dribbles out the gun, not a gun problem, it just doesn't like that ammo. Hope this helps Cheers
Thanks - we determined that this one doesn't like lower powered ammo - challenge is, it appears to be marketed to the competition market. Many IDPA and/or USPSA folks work their loads to get as close to the minimum power factor as possible. I've seen strange ejection w/low powered ammo, but failure to eject doesn't happen with the same ammo in other competition guns I've used (Glock 34, Springfield XDm 5.25, CZ SP-01, M&P9 Pro, P320 X-Five, etc.). I guess what I'm saying is that if Canik wanted to create a pistol that would run well in the competition market, they would make sure their pistol ran 115 to 147 ammo that was at least factory spec. I've read Canik has told folks they need to run 124 NATO for the best reliability. But then, some folks report their pistol runs fine with 147 grain, so maybe the lower power factor is the only issue, or maybe quality control of the recoil springs is the issue. Either way, the Canik TP9SFx has quite a bit of feature packed into a low cost pistol, but if you want to run close to the power factor for USPSA or IDPA, be advised you may have problems.
David Valdez yep, got the same issue, all the Ammo I had for matches worked perfectly in my Glocks, CZs and sig P320 but my canik chocked on it just like yours Cheers
Hi Exxon. We cannot get the Canik here in Cali. BUT. I got 5 Hi Points & I totally reworked them. NOW they are all just as reliable as my Glocks. The perfect "throw away gun - (if you know what I mean).
Did you happen to have any issues with the slide not locking back after last round? Took mine out for first time and shot Winchester white box and slide did not lock back once with either mag. I'm thinking the mag springs need to be broken in but not sure.
I have the sfl it's pretty much the same gun. With suttle differences. Left my slide locked back until I went to the range the next day. And it ran flawlessly for me maybe try that to break the spring in quicker. I was also using 115 grain Winchester white box ammo.
Thanks Kursat, in my experience I've not seen that issue. I've shot the same ammo through every gun on my channel videos w/the only problem coming from a batch of crappy ammo that wouldn't feed into the chamber. Freedom sent me a new case free of charge, so no complaints from me :). But in general, what you say is accurate - just not my experience with Freedom 147 reman or new.
The TP9SFX spring is way too heavy by standards. Especially when your shooting Freedom 147, which is some of the lowest load I've fired. You can try lighter spring from PPQ M2 but I've heard running nato 9mm to break in works very well. BTW my TP9SFX seen nothing but AE 147 flat point, not one hiccup.
Thanks Mike, it amazes me how many folks have had gems that work well right off, and then how many have had problems. We ran 115 through it and it worked fine, but 124 failed occasionally, and 147 was a jam-o-matic. We like 147 Freedom for USPSA/IDPA because it is so close to the lowest power factor and yet it drops steel without exception. My buddy sold it to someone who won't be shooting 147 grain, so it's off to a new home. Glad your pistol works, they are very nice for sure.
I know the pistol is gone but this comment is for new owners experiencing ejection issues. A simple free fix is to lock the slide back after your done shooting for 3-5 days when not in use. Breaks in the spring nicely.
I just shot mine yesterday for the first time. And I shot aguila 115-124 blazer 115-124 600 rounds later and not one problem., I oiled and greased the slide upon going to the range. I put so many rounds through it so fast I had to wear gloves I cannot hold the gun it was too hot.
Glad to hear it - if you get a chance, I'd be curious to hear how 147 grain factory runs through yours. We ran 124 Freedom w/out issue and 115 remain (from another company) without issue.
Thanks - I know higher power loads work fine on my buddies Canik, but he's not getting any luck with 147 grain. Several folks have recommended a lower power spring, probably his best bet.
Wow, so how does it run with 124 grn or is that not available in your area? I'm under the impression that the TP9sfx was a pistol designed as a Target Shooter at the range or at pistol competitions coming in at a lower price point than others. Seems like you're running the gun to two extremes beyond what the recoil spring was originally designed for.
Most competition shooters run 124 or 147 and lower power factor, so 147 should run just fine. We ran 115 grain with the best overall performance, but if you read the comments - many people reported the same problems. I agree it's a lower price point, and I believe that there are some quality control issues with recoil springs from the factory. Many folks reported that after contracting the vendor, they were sent new recoil springs. It is a very nice pistol for the money - but my buddy sold it so I can't test anymore ammo.
Hi ExxonV! Hmm... Do you know if the new recoil springs helped or improved it's functioning? I typically just run 115 or 124 grn in my 9mm's. I saw one of these at my LGS at $469 and thought it might be fun to try it out. I've been researching other video's also to see what others have experienced. I 'm not planning on running 147 grn in the Canik, but I don't want to jump into a gun having potential issues.
Yes! I've heard that the replacements make it run fine - the chances of you needing one are slim though, it seems the number of people who get a bad recoil spring are not super high. The pistol is a steal at that price - Optics Ready, sweet trigger, great ergonomics and nice high-cap mags. I also believe you can use the same sights you can get for the Walther PPQ, so in my book, it's a good buy - just know that if you have problems cycling ammo, get that spring replaced! Good luck!
Mine runs my 147 reloads just fine. Just have to make sure they have enough powder. I run 147gr Berrry's over 3.5 gr TiteGroup. Shot IDPA match last month with no problems.
Great Video and Nice Shooting! My new TP9SFx Does the Same thing,I'm not a Competitive shooter so now i know i can take 115Gr to the Range without issues,Thanks Again/
Bummer, it's a sweet pistol though, and some great solutions in the comments from folks who've solved the issue. I'm guessing the recoil spring is a bit too powerful from some factory batches. A lighter weight might even reduce muzzle flip, but if you're good with 115, I'm sure it'll run great for you! Enjoy!!
Could be the gun, or the ammo, but the Canik Tp9 SFx I has ran 115, 124, 147 grains pretty great but for the spring recoil you could go to their website and get the light and heavy spring or a glock spring with adapter
My SFX was doing the same exact thing. Hoping it just didn't like the 115gr factory reloads I took to the range. It did however run with out issue on a box of Tula I happen to have in my range bag.
I have run 125gr Blue Bullets in my sfx with no problems so far. Feeds well,no extraction problems. Haven't tried 147gr yet,but when I do,they won't be reduced loads.
Yep, we saw notes from many people who had no problems, but also many who did - either way, great pistol for the price. But not everyone had your experience.
I have an SFX and I've had zero issues with running stock spring. In my reloads I'm using 124 grn berry's plated bullets with only 3.8 powder charge of HP-38.. that's a lite reload and it cycle's it fine. I have about 1000 rds or more through it. Sprinco now makes a recoil system that a lot of people are liking for the sfx. Hopefully you find a solution that works for you.
Having nothing but 5:40 problems with my TPSFX 9mm, every grain possible hangs up on the feed ramp every other shot, what can I do, over 1000 rd breakin.
This is an older video, but many have said they contacted Canik to get a replacement recoil spring. www.canikusa.com/contact-us. It seems the manufacturer had some bad recoil springs made by a 3rd part. Good luck!
I just bought one, and I’m running 115 grain. I’m probably just running into limp wrist issues, but I can’t get more than two rounds through it without a stove pipe. Hoping it just needs proper break in?
I don't buy the "limp wrist" concept for 9mm pistols myself, if you can one-hand shoot it, then you should be able to shoot just fine w/out a heavy grip. That said, you might find a solution w/one of these! www.opticsplanet.com/canik-recoil-spring-set.html. Good luck!!!
@@exxonv1719 thanks! I contacted the import company, and apparently they make lighter springs for the US market. They’re sending me one free of charge, but they’re on back order. UPDATE: I’ve stored it for about two weeks now with the action locked open on the original spring. it runs flawlessly on Magtech 115 grain, but it still doesn’t like Maxxtech 115 grain. Not sure why? Unfortunately Beggars can’t be choosers in 2020!
LOL, true dat! I've found that folks are either using the low weight springs from Canik, or are using aftermarket stuff. Some folks reported using Glock recoil springs, not sure on that, but I believe someone commented in one of the video comment sections. I'd heard that if you get the right springs from the get-go, or, if you get the lighter weight spring, the pistol runs like a champ w/115, 124 and 147 grain ammo just fine. It IS a solid pistol and a nice setup, especially for the coin. I think Canik just had a slight QC issue w/their recoil springs...
Right out of the box 1st time I emptied my TPSFX the slideDid not block back. Does anybody have any answers of why that may be happening? Brand new right out-of-the-box, but unfortunately my father bought this gun, and the man who sold it to him did not give him the holster that was supposed to come with it as well as the cleaning brush as well as the tools
I have heard of a few complaints about the gun must be first run because I got mine and have had zero issues I have used all the basics 115 124 147 and hollow points gun runs perfect and has an amazing trigger.
if i ever needed to get that spring for my sfx from century arms do they charge me money on shipping or pay for the shipping? my tungsten grey version works fine, but i also got one of them limited whiteouts i haven't shot it yet but I'm wondering just in case it has problems when i do
I run 115 in mine and it still has these same issues...... I've noticed it's really finicky depending on brand of ammo...... it runs some brands fine but doesn't like everything...... my CZ shadow 2 is the same way. ...
That's interesting. My Shadow 2 eats everything 115, 124, and 147 grain, provided I don't mess up w/the seating depth of the bullets. The S2 has the ability to swap recoil springs (weights) and I can dial the recoil spring to any round just fine. Most of the time, I never need to do anything. The Canik we had would not run 124 or 147 reliably. However, I've had people report Canik's that run everything just fine. I have to wonder if they have a Quality Control issue w/the recoil springs (maybe outsourced). But they are nice pistols for sure.
@@exxonv1719 yeah man over all it is a nice made pistol just got to figure out what to do to solve it..... the CZ on the other hand just didn't like one brand of ammo it is called Maxx tech..... but that stuff gave me lots of problems with other guns..... but my glock and Beretta 92fs ate the hell out of it...... if you come across that brand I would steer clear.......
I just bought one last week for 397 with no shipping or tax and it's supposed to be here tomorrow. After seeing this video, I'm hesitant to pick it up. I may send it back.....hummmmm. The inconsistencies throughout the comments honestly says it all, doesn't it?
I know, the variance in comments is interesting. I appreciate you pointing that out. I really hope the one you get is fully functional with any 9mm ammo.
Weird this ammo is not the right one apparently or you got a lemon , I shoot cheap ass 115 grain 10 dollar per fifty bullets stuff and I've never had even one failure . This gun is phenomenal to say the least , much better than my sig. I think you guys are setting it up for failure by not running the ammo it was intended to run . I just can't say enough good things about this pistol! For the price you just can't buy anything even close . It's great you guys didn't turn this into a bash fest because it truly is a great 9 mm , especially when you consider the price.
LOL! Not a bash fest for sure, the pistol is rock solid, but based on feedback from the comments, this one had a bad recoil spring. Apparently some are outfitted for 9mm NATO and others are 9mm - at least that's what I'm told. Some folks reported having Canik send them replacement recoil springs and their pistols started running all 9mm. Some reported running everything from the start - but trust me, the pistol is solid!
Unfortunately bad firearms make it to the consumer regardless of their quality control and the few test rounds they fire through it. Mines had to replace the extractor.
Sorry to hear it. The recoil should allow the extraction to occur, the ejector and extractor work together to get the fired case out. The parts used are the recoil spring, extractor and ejector. Weak ammo can be a problem, but if you're using factory ammo, that's likely not the issue. Recoil springs need to be strong enough to move the slide while maintaining enough resistance to protect the slide and frame. If the pistol worked for thousands of rounds and is getting worse now, it could be the recoil spring. If it's happening after a few hundred rounds, it might be the extractor or ejector. The extractor is the part on the slide that is next to the port where the cases fly out. If that part is broken, it can't grab the case rim to pull the case out of the chamber. Check for a "lip" that would grab cases by their rims. If that looks good, check the ejector. This is a "rod" looking part in the frame that sticks out. It's job is to help push the case out during extraction. Rare, but that part can break off. Good luck!!!
Is this pistol just less snappy than the tp9sa? My sa is very snappy. I’ve changed grip techniques and body positions. I was brand new never shot. I’ve put around 500 rounds through it. Do they take a while to break the recoil spring in good or what? I’ve got used to the follow up with it and it is a very accurate pistol. It just feels like they have too heavy of a recoil spring in it or something.
Thanks for the note - it was my friend's TP9SFx and we both thought the ergos and the overall fit and finish was great, trigger was awesome, but we had too many problems with the extraction/ejection for 147 grain ammo. I'm guessing if we'd replaced the recoil spring w/something lighter it would've cleaned up. My P320 X-Five initially had some issues similar until I lowered the recoil spring from 15lb to 12lb, now it runs great. However, my friend decided to sell it, so we never changed recoil springs. I'd suggest you reach out to Canik and ask them for a different recoil spring - from what I've read, they are good about sending them.
Yeah, that's good - not everybody has had the issue - my guess is that there is a small quality control issue w/the recoil spring for some folks. The pistol is a great value for the money, when they run, they are every bit as good as the Walther PPQ they copied, for a fraction of the price! www.handgunhero.com/compare/canik-tp9sfx-vs-walther-ppq-q5-match-m2
Could this be caused by the magazines themselves? I haven't run any 147gr through my TP9SFx yet, I just bought mine so I haven't had that opportunity. I'll give it a go next time I'm out with the stock recoil spring, and then the Sprinco one.
I hope your pistol runs well! From what I've read, some run 147 out of the box, some need the spring changes. I think it comes down to quality of the springs vs. quality of the firearm. This Canik is basicially a copy (almost exact) of the Walther PPQ, but you get the optics option, great trigger, great capacity, and great color for a lower price! If you don't get the one that runs 147 well, just get the springs upgraded - I'm sure you'll love the pistol. It was a joy to shoot when it ran for us :).
Seems like there is something wrong with the extractor. Maybe send it back to the company and have them look at it. I had a similar problem with a gun in a the past and the extractor was broken off completely.
Hurricane Tai Or, possibly the ejector is not in exact alignment. I noticed some of the rounds were bouncing forward. It's almost like the brass is impacting the center of the ejector, instead of towards the left side, as it should be. You're right tho.... Most likely an extractor issue.
I own SFX- They intentionally made the SFX for gunnin and running. Comp! FAST! So they put heavy spring in it for purposes of PLUS P Ammo and 124 grain which has hotter load powder in it. So shooting anything else AKA cheaper ammo you most likely going to suffer problems. Theres No need for recall it intentional. If you want to shoot cheaper ammo like me just change spring out. I emailed them and are sending me new one for free. In mean while I lock my pistol open during the night with full mag next to it just in case and this may well fix problem as some other SFX owners have said worked. Ill rack the slide 100 times a day for 10 days loosen that spring up a bit. I bought mine new and took to range and had out of 300 rds 115 grain Fiocchi 11 or 12 stove pipes. Very annoying but at that time i didnt know about the Plus p rating for this pistol and its spring.
Is the 147 marked subsonic? I know most lf it would be sub sonic anyway, but when loaded intentionally for that, they are usually charged lighter as well.
Yep, it's subsonic - we can shoot 115 through 100% reliable, 124 as well, but 147 isn't working well. The rub for me, I run 147 through all my competition guns with the same ammo (Glock 34, XDm 5.25, CZ SP-01 Shadow, P320, P320 X-Five, S&W M&P9 Pro and M2.0 5", P226 Legion/TacOps, etc. - shot all those this last year in IDPA/USPSA Matches). They all run Freedom Munitions 147 New and Reman just fine (along with 115/124 grain). The Canik TP9SFx seems to be marketed as a competition gun (at least we though so, 5" barrel, awesome trigger, Optics Ready), so we were surprised it would not run a competition load. I know we can run 115 or 124, or I can work up a load for 147 that will run, but one goal is to be as close to minimum power factor as possible, and while I can run that ammo in all the other pistols noted above, we can't get it to run in the Canik TP9XFx. If someone is not looking to run it for competition, or doesn't care about 147 grain subsonic minimum power factor loads, then this is an incredible buy, but if they want a pistol that runs like the other competition pistols noted above (that run 147 lower power loads), they might be disappointed. To me, the quest for a recoil spring that works with a lower power load is the best bet - for the extra $50 or less, you have one heck of a pistol with the Canik TP9SFx - just bummed it won't run w/out the fix - but hey, it is what it is :).
If its rated for plus p, It should have a stronger spring than the standard rated pistols. Which will buffer the recoil better. The downside is the subsonic ammo wont create enough pressure to move the slide enough to eject properly. A good gunsmith can calibrate the spring to run the subsonic. But then the +P would wear the gun out much faster. Just a "different" spring wont necessarily change anything. Its likely the same tension as the original.
Thanks - makes sense, I just find it interesting that Canik would rate it for Plus P - probably due to NATO 9mm vs. trying to really capture the US Competition Market (my guess). Plus P would wear it down I'm sure, seems to be a pretty solid pistol though. Thanks again Doug!
Thanks for being one of the Chanel Operators who actually reads the comments, and taking the time to reply.. Its become a very rare thing these days. After I get mine tuned with wolf springs, Ill send details on the parts😀 My real concern is going to be longer range accuracy tuning. But, I also want it to eat all (off the shelf) ammo reliably.
Thank you - appreciate the feedback. Would love to get those details when you have them (tuned to run and for accuracy), I feel Canik has a good platform (pretty much a PPQ :)), great price.
My new TP9 Elite Combat does NOT care for 147gr, it will run 115gr and 124gr all day long no issues, and about a 10% failure to return to battery with the 147gr.
I’m running factory spring and also tested 200rds with 147 and I hated it it jams every couple of bullets. I change to 135-124-115 and made 500rds of each one not a single problem. I guess Canik design this for lower power ammo less than 140gr
We were able to get factor 124 to run much better - last test we saw 2 failures out of 200 rounds. 115 grain runs 100%. The guys I compete with generally like to use 147 for lower muzzle flip / higher power factor, but not in a Canik, unfortunately :(.
Is your gun lubed properly! I see so many reviews that have theses issues with different guns and I truly believe it's a lube is due more than anything. You didn't rely be when you took it apart.
:) - they are pretty inexpensive, and from what I've been told (in the comments), there are some that run just fine out of the box w/all ammo - but not all. They come w/a great option for optics, an incredible trigger, and I've also been told they can be tweaked with a new recoil spring. But for me (in 2018), out of the box should work on any sample (maybe I'm just picky). My Glock, Sig, M&P, and CZ pistols will all run any production ammo (115/124/147) out of the box - that's why we were disappointed. Can't go wrong with Glock - but those Gen 5 MSRP prices (which Glock holds dealers to very strictly) are high right now! A Gen3 or Gen4 is a great value unless you are a lefty and want the ambi-slide release, then the G5 is the best option. Good luck!
I haven't had such issues with mine. You might want to remove the large mag release button, and either run the small one or simply run it without the extended buttons all together.
My friend sold it, it ran 115 and 124 grain just fine. Personally I felt it was an over powered recoil spring, but unfortunately we will never know. The pistol was quite impressive and as I understand it, the manufacturer has addressed issues, so it's a great buy for the price.
*YOU HAAAAAAVE TO break this gun in using 100 rounds of 124 nato Spec : There's all sorts of threads regarding this issue on the Canik Forum:* You can also get an updated RGS from Century
Thanks Cramer. I've read those myself and while I understand that is their break-in requirement, is that noted in their manual? Also, it's 2017 and I just find it hard to believe a modern day pistol would require that to be reliable. If Century is going to market a pistol in the United States, you'd think they'd either have an updated RGS from the factory that works with 115 - 147 grain ammo like other companies (Glock, Sig, Smith, Walther, H&K), or they'd made sure it was stamped all over the package (MUST USE NATO 124 FOR BREAK IN PERIOD). Either way, it's a nice pistol for sure, but I personally will pass on one due to the problems we've seen with them. Not shooting the messenger :) - just pointing out my personal frustration with Century/Canik.
David Valdez *I agree with you* Been shooting 40 years and never had to break a Gun in before: I even went so far as to buy the Spinco Guide Rod with 13 & 15 pound Springs and couldn't get Freedom Ammo of any sort to fire right . Once I ran 100 round of Winchester White Box 124 Nato thru it things totally changed: I've had or still own all the Brands you mention. Never had top break any in. I will say this Canik slide to frame fit is tight for a Poly gun. Maybe that has something to do with in. As for owners manuals . I haven't read an owners manual for many years. Most aren't very informative.
Totally agree on all points! Owner's manuals are horrible too, I go to UA-cam :). I loved the ergonomics, trigger, look, recoil, slide to frame fit, etc. The Canik Pistols are a great buy, just hate the idea of a break in period and needing specific ammo.
David Valdez had to break in my new Glock 19 gen 4 out the box. 4 fte out the box.. It's ridiculous that any manufacturer requires a break in period with a gun u use to potential defend your life
I hate to get into this, but...IMO, it depends on the power factor you are running. You run 147 because of the softer recoil. 147 requires less powder for the same power factor and thus there is less (potential, turned into kinetic) energy available to be turned into operating the slide. That energy has to fight the recoil spring. The slide needs to go back far enough and with enough ummpfh (like the technical term?) left for the cartridge to bounce out when it hits the extractor. One of the things that I believe you are doing during break-in is weakening the slide spring (from factory). Try a weaker recoil spring for higher grain ammo.
No argument here, all that is what I understand as well. How many other production 9mm striker fired guns NEED to have hot ammo to run? I own most of them (Glock, Sig, Springfield, Smith & Wesson, etc.) and they all run 115 to 147 just fine. That's my point really. Sell a striker fired 9mm handgun targeted at the competition or carry market in the US, and it should meet the same standard (my opinion, I know). Everyone admits the gun won't run weak ammo, but all my other 9's do just fine.
I shoot a Limited Pro and you have to change springs between different ammo power factors. My Walther PPQ and my former SA XDM 4.5 needed spring changes too to improve reliability...just saying. It would be interesting to see how extensive a testing process gun manufacturers have for different ammo types and power factors. Did the problem work itself out after a month of shooting it or did you contact the importer?
Hey Rob, I'm not familiar with a Limited Pro, but I did shoot a PPQ M2 in USPSA Production Minor and it did great w/147 Freedom. My XDm 5.25 also did great with the same ammo in USPSA Production, both of those matches are on the channel. I agree, it would be interesting to see how extension the testing goes - my guess is that Canik had some QC problems with their springs, cause I have conflicting info in the comments about what ammo works. We were able to test 115 grain and ran the better part of a case through the TP9SFx and it ate everything w/out problems, but as soon as we went back to 147, it was a jam-o-matic. My buddy did contact the importer, they mailed him a new spring, and he promptly sold the gun, so we can't test it anymore. Someone got a great deal though, as he included a Vortex Venom and the springs. I hope they run 115 grain or 124 NATO :).
Some pleaple say glock is marketing they might be right but they market on that level because they trust the reliability of their products proven over the years I’ve seen deep fried glock run perfectly with no failures yes canik has the best trigger but @ what price no thanks
Just bad ammo for your gun change your springs or ammo everyone will have problems if you do what your doing they wouldn’t make different springs if it weren’t the case
I've heard from people who wear they love their Canik, and then some who run into these same issues. Quite a few folks disparage our choice of ammo, etc., but I can tell you that I've heard from enough people to believe that it is a production issue with Canik. If you get a good one, you are a satisfied customer - if not, you need to reach out to them and see if they'll fix it. Lots of folks report getting different recoil springs from Canik that fix the issue. Good luck!
I ran 50 rounds of the 147grain Freedom ammo with out failures to eject. also 135 gr Freedom and 115 gr Speers Lawmen not one failure to eject. I have some 165 gr Rush that I plan to try.
Every video every comparison or malfunction I’ve seen is compared to glock reliability 115grain gun never heard of that before😂 conclusion change trigger and sights and nobody will beat glock
glock is on the way out! CANIK BEST 9MM. TRIGGER IN STRIKER FIRED PISTOLS OUT THERE, IRON SIGHTS. the price of 300$ for the elite and you do not have to do anything with it right out of box. gluck 500,trigger 150+ sights optic 110, none of this includes install. over 800$ and it’s still a pos! The real 9mm. CZ-P-01!
@@brc1945 i have a glock 34 and i got a canik tp9sfx, i'd choose my canik over the glock competition pistol anyday,way better trigger way better sights,better feel when holding it, dont get me wrong i love my glock competition but to get it to shoot like my sfx i would have to add hundreds of dollars in upgrades on a pistol thats already way more expensive then this sfx, i have to agree with you no factory glock can come close to touching a canik sfx these people are crazy,and most of us with sfx have had 0 malfunctions after around 1300 rounds so far lol
It's another you get what you pay for , like Rex Zero. It's a cheap knock off, and you really aren't saving when customer service sucks or is non existent.
Don't understand why ya gotta run 147gr. Anyway. Is it a man thing? I mean your just as dead fron a 115 gr hornady xtp...........or 90gr lehigh critical defense.
Man thing? If it was a man thing, I'd be running .45 ACP :). Seriously, for me 147 grain shoots flatter (less muzzle flip). The Canik TP9SFx was made for competition, in competition, I shoot 147 grain.
The problem is that the gun and the ammo you're using are not functioning properly in conjuction wit those Thong range-sandals
What are those 👡 😂😂😂
I just can't get over those things on the range. ROFLOL
absolutely
There is no such thing as a TP9- SFX Elite. You have the TP9-SFX the Elite is a different version of the TP9 series.
Thanks for the correction Frank! You are correct, it's not the Elite.
Frank Contreras this is the elite 👉 Canik TP9SF ELITE 9mm Pistol 4.2" barrel HG3898G-N
Good call. This is the competition model canik.
So will my brand new TP9SFX 9mm have this same problem with higher grained ammo? Hope not!
I just got an Elite, and first I noticed how he put the slide assembly on and that's not the way you reassemble an Elite. I had no failures in my initial range time with my Canik, shot roundnose and hollowpoints, 115, 124, and 147 grain. So far 👍
Looks like you've got some light loads. Canik tends to have heavy springs
Definitely looks ammo related.
Buy all new springs from Springco and it will run anything you put in it and your trigger will be even better at about 3 to 3.5lbs.
Ammo load is too light for your spring, that's why the brass dribbles out the gun, not a gun problem, it just doesn't like that ammo. Hope this helps
Cheers
Thanks - we determined that this one doesn't like lower powered ammo - challenge is, it appears to be marketed to the competition market. Many IDPA and/or USPSA folks work their loads to get as close to the minimum power factor as possible. I've seen strange ejection w/low powered ammo, but failure to eject doesn't happen with the same ammo in other competition guns I've used (Glock 34, Springfield XDm 5.25, CZ SP-01, M&P9 Pro, P320 X-Five, etc.). I guess what I'm saying is that if Canik wanted to create a pistol that would run well in the competition market, they would make sure their pistol ran 115 to 147 ammo that was at least factory spec. I've read Canik has told folks they need to run 124 NATO for the best reliability. But then, some folks report their pistol runs fine with 147 grain, so maybe the lower power factor is the only issue, or maybe quality control of the recoil springs is the issue. Either way, the Canik TP9SFx has quite a bit of feature packed into a low cost pistol, but if you want to run close to the power factor for USPSA or IDPA, be advised you may have problems.
David Valdez yep, got the same issue, all the Ammo I had for matches worked perfectly in my Glocks, CZs and sig P320 but my canik chocked on it just like yours
Cheers
How'd you fix it?
David Valdez simply added 1/2 grain more powder to my reloads, lol
Cheers
:), my buddy (who owns the Canik) uses factory ammo, so he's stuck with 115 grain.
Hi Exxon. We cannot get the Canik here in Cali. BUT. I got 5 Hi Points & I totally reworked them. NOW they are all just as reliable as my Glocks. The perfect "throw away gun - (if you know what I mean).
Just on Sunday I ran 300 147 grain winchester rounds through it with no issue.
I shot mine the first time out of the box with the winchester 115g white box 200 rounds and not a single problem 👍😊✌
Did you happen to have any issues with the slide not locking back after last round? Took mine out for first time and shot Winchester white box and slide did not lock back once with either mag. I'm thinking the mag springs need to be broken in but not sure.
@@markscott9179 mine wouldn’t go back into battery after about every 10 rounds. It got stuck, it doesn’t like 115gr white box Winchester
I have the sfl it's pretty much the same gun. With suttle differences. Left my slide locked back until I went to the range the next day. And it ran flawlessly for me maybe try that to break the spring in quicker. I was also using 115 grain Winchester white box ammo.
Really lucky you . I use Winchester, I was have failures to feed.
Most pistols with 147 grain subsonic ammo needs a lighter spring. Especially for Canik design for the Nato 124 grain +p ammo and stiffer springs!
Thanks Kursat, in my experience I've not seen that issue. I've shot the same ammo through every gun on my channel videos w/the only problem coming from a batch of crappy ammo that wouldn't feed into the chamber. Freedom sent me a new case free of charge, so no complaints from me :). But in general, what you say is accurate - just not my experience with Freedom 147 reman or new.
The TP9SFX spring is way too heavy by standards. Especially when your shooting Freedom 147, which is some of the lowest load I've fired. You can try lighter spring from PPQ M2 but I've heard running nato 9mm to break in works very well. BTW my TP9SFX seen nothing but AE 147 flat point, not one hiccup.
Thanks Mike, it amazes me how many folks have had gems that work well right off, and then how many have had problems. We ran 115 through it and it worked fine, but 124 failed occasionally, and 147 was a jam-o-matic. We like 147 Freedom for USPSA/IDPA because it is so close to the lowest power factor and yet it drops steel without exception. My buddy sold it to someone who won't be shooting 147 grain, so it's off to a new home. Glad your pistol works, they are very nice for sure.
I know the pistol is gone but this comment is for new owners experiencing ejection issues. A simple free fix is to lock the slide back after your done shooting for 3-5 days when not in use. Breaks in the spring nicely.
Yep, that worked for some, my buddy left his back a week with no change :(
I just shot mine yesterday for the first time. And I shot aguila 115-124 blazer 115-124
600 rounds later and not one problem.,
I oiled and greased the slide upon going to the range.
I put so many rounds through it so fast I had to wear gloves I cannot hold the gun it was too hot.
Glad to hear it - if you get a chance, I'd be curious to hear how 147 grain factory runs through yours. We ran 124 Freedom w/out issue and 115 remain (from another company) without issue.
David Valdez
Don't have any.
Just shot some 115 plus p.
No issues.
I would try oiling the spring. And a lot of grease on on the slide and barrel.
Thanks - I know higher power loads work fine on my buddies Canik, but he's not getting any luck with 147 grain. Several folks have recommended a lower power spring, probably his best bet.
David Valdez
Hello I just got back from the range I shot 400 rounds of magtech 147. With no problems at all. I shot very well!!!
Outstanding! My buddy Dan (owns the Canik) called them and they are sending a new recoil spring.
I've had zero issues with 115 or 124 grain .
Wow, so how does it run with 124 grn or is that not available in your area? I'm under the impression that the TP9sfx was a pistol designed as a Target Shooter at the range or at pistol competitions coming in at a lower price point than others. Seems like you're running the gun to two extremes beyond what the recoil spring was originally designed for.
Most competition shooters run 124 or 147 and lower power factor, so 147 should run just fine. We ran 115 grain with the best overall performance, but if you read the comments - many people reported the same problems. I agree it's a lower price point, and I believe that there are some quality control issues with recoil springs from the factory. Many folks reported that after contracting the vendor, they were sent new recoil springs. It is a very nice pistol for the money - but my buddy sold it so I can't test anymore ammo.
Hi ExxonV! Hmm... Do you know if the new recoil springs helped or improved it's functioning? I typically just run 115 or 124 grn in my 9mm's. I saw one of these at my LGS at $469 and thought it might be fun to try it out. I've been researching other video's also to see what others have experienced. I 'm not planning on running 147 grn in the Canik, but I don't want to jump into a gun having potential issues.
Yes! I've heard that the replacements make it run fine - the chances of you needing one are slim though, it seems the number of people who get a bad recoil spring are not super high. The pistol is a steal at that price - Optics Ready, sweet trigger, great ergonomics and nice high-cap mags. I also believe you can use the same sights you can get for the Walther PPQ, so in my book, it's a good buy - just know that if you have problems cycling ammo, get that spring replaced! Good luck!
@@exxonv1719 Thanks! That's good to know, so I appreciate the info. Have a Great Day ExxonV!
Mine runs my 147 reloads just fine. Just have to make sure they have enough powder. I run 147gr Berrry's over 3.5 gr TiteGroup. Shot IDPA match last month with no problems.
Great Video and Nice Shooting! My new TP9SFx Does the Same thing,I'm not a Competitive shooter so now i know i can take 115Gr to the Range without issues,Thanks Again/
Bummer, it's a sweet pistol though, and some great solutions in the comments from folks who've solved the issue. I'm guessing the recoil spring is a bit too powerful from some factory batches. A lighter weight might even reduce muzzle flip, but if you're good with 115, I'm sure it'll run great for you! Enjoy!!
Could be the gun, or the ammo, but the Canik Tp9 SFx I has ran 115, 124, 147 grains pretty great but for the spring recoil you could go to their website and get the light and heavy spring or a glock spring with adapter
My SFX was doing the same exact thing. Hoping it just didn't like the 115gr factory reloads I took to the range. It did however run with out issue on a box of Tula I happen to have in my range bag.
I have run 125gr Blue Bullets in my sfx with no problems so far. Feeds well,no extraction problems. Haven't tried 147gr yet,but when I do,they won't be reduced loads.
I run 147 135 freedom competition ammo. And fmj . Never had a problem with mine.. now I have the after market springs and still no problem
Yep, we saw notes from many people who had no problems, but also many who did - either way, great pistol for the price. But not everyone had your experience.
I have an SFX and I've had zero issues with running stock spring. In my reloads I'm using 124 grn berry's plated bullets with only 3.8 powder charge of HP-38.. that's a lite reload and it cycle's it fine. I have about 1000 rds or more through it. Sprinco now makes a recoil system that a lot of people are liking for the sfx. Hopefully you find a solution that works for you.
No big deal... still a great looking and great gun...
Having nothing but 5:40 problems with my TPSFX 9mm, every grain possible hangs up on the feed ramp every other shot, what can I do, over 1000 rd breakin.
This is an older video, but many have said they contacted Canik to get a replacement recoil spring. www.canikusa.com/contact-us. It seems the manufacturer had some bad recoil springs made by a 3rd part. Good luck!
www.canikusa.com/canik-full-size-recoil-low-force-spring-assembly
Love the hoodie broncos country baby
I just bought one, and I’m running 115 grain. I’m probably just running into limp wrist issues, but I can’t get more than two rounds through it without a stove pipe. Hoping it just needs proper break in?
I don't buy the "limp wrist" concept for 9mm pistols myself, if you can one-hand shoot it, then you should be able to shoot just fine w/out a heavy grip. That said, you might find a solution w/one of these! www.opticsplanet.com/canik-recoil-spring-set.html. Good luck!!!
@@exxonv1719 thanks! I contacted the import company, and apparently they make lighter springs for the US market. They’re sending me one free of charge, but they’re on back order.
UPDATE: I’ve stored it for about two weeks now with the action locked open on the original spring. it runs flawlessly on Magtech 115 grain, but it still doesn’t like Maxxtech 115 grain.
Not sure why? Unfortunately Beggars can’t be choosers in 2020!
LOL, true dat! I've found that folks are either using the low weight springs from Canik, or are using aftermarket stuff. Some folks reported using Glock recoil springs, not sure on that, but I believe someone commented in one of the video comment sections. I'd heard that if you get the right springs from the get-go, or, if you get the lighter weight spring, the pistol runs like a champ w/115, 124 and 147 grain ammo just fine. It IS a solid pistol and a nice setup, especially for the coin. I think Canik just had a slight QC issue w/their recoil springs...
sprinco.com/recoil.html this is a solution some folks used. Another: www.opticsplanet.com/canik-recoil-spring-set.html. Good luck!!!
Right out of the box 1st time I emptied my TPSFX the slideDid not block back. Does anybody have any answers of why that may be happening? Brand new right out-of-the-box, but unfortunately my father bought this gun, and the man who sold it to him did not give him the holster that was supposed to come with it as well as the cleaning brush as well as the tools
I’ve been hearing to change the guiderod spring. I had the same issues with 115gr
I have heard of a few complaints about the gun must be first run because I got mine and have had zero issues I have used all the basics 115 124 147 and hollow points gun runs perfect and has an amazing trigger.
Same here. It's been nothing but reliable.
if i ever needed to get that spring for my sfx from century arms do they charge me money on shipping or pay for the shipping? my tungsten grey version works fine, but i also got one of them limited whiteouts i haven't shot it yet but I'm wondering just in case it has problems when i do
I've heard they'll send it free, but I've also seen that they offer them on their website for sale.
@@exxonv1719 oh ok thanks
It’s free
I run 115 in mine and it still has these same issues...... I've noticed it's really finicky depending on brand of ammo...... it runs some brands fine but doesn't like everything...... my CZ shadow 2 is the same way. ...
That's interesting. My Shadow 2 eats everything 115, 124, and 147 grain, provided I don't mess up w/the seating depth of the bullets. The S2 has the ability to swap recoil springs (weights) and I can dial the recoil spring to any round just fine. Most of the time, I never need to do anything. The Canik we had would not run 124 or 147 reliably. However, I've had people report Canik's that run everything just fine. I have to wonder if they have a Quality Control issue w/the recoil springs (maybe outsourced). But they are nice pistols for sure.
@@exxonv1719 yeah man over all it is a nice made pistol just got to figure out what to do to solve it..... the CZ on the other hand just didn't like one brand of ammo it is called Maxx tech..... but that stuff gave me lots of problems with other guns..... but my glock and Beretta 92fs ate the hell out of it...... if you come across that brand I would steer clear.......
I just bought one last week for 397 with no shipping or tax and it's supposed to be here tomorrow. After seeing this video, I'm hesitant to pick it up. I may send it back.....hummmmm.
The inconsistencies throughout the comments honestly says it all, doesn't it?
I know, the variance in comments is interesting. I appreciate you pointing that out. I really hope the one you get is fully functional with any 9mm ammo.
I’ve had mine for 2 years and never had a problem. I only shoot 147’s from angelfire ammo and never had a problem with anything.
Weird this ammo is not the right one apparently or you got a lemon , I shoot cheap ass 115 grain 10 dollar per fifty bullets stuff and I've never had even one failure . This gun is phenomenal to say the least , much better than my sig. I think you guys are setting it up for failure by not running the ammo it was intended to run . I just can't say enough good things about this pistol! For the price you just can't buy anything even close . It's great you guys didn't turn this into a bash fest because it truly is a great 9 mm , especially when you consider the price.
LOL! Not a bash fest for sure, the pistol is rock solid, but based on feedback from the comments, this one had a bad recoil spring. Apparently some are outfitted for 9mm NATO and others are 9mm - at least that's what I'm told. Some folks reported having Canik send them replacement recoil springs and their pistols started running all 9mm. Some reported running everything from the start - but trust me, the pistol is solid!
I upgraded mine with a sprinco recoil management system and a lighter striker spring and I run 147 gr with zero issues...
The Gravel Pit I have the sprinco white and yellow spring and it still doesn’t function well also have a leupold optic
Unfortunately bad firearms make it to the consumer regardless of their quality control and the few test rounds they fire through it. Mines had to replace the extractor.
My Tp9 is not releasing empty cartridges after firing. Have to Cork it to release. What could be the cause. Kindly assist
Sorry to hear it. The recoil should allow the extraction to occur, the ejector and extractor work together to get the fired case out. The parts used are the recoil spring, extractor and ejector. Weak ammo can be a problem, but if you're using factory ammo, that's likely not the issue. Recoil springs need to be strong enough to move the slide while maintaining enough resistance to protect the slide and frame. If the pistol worked for thousands of rounds and is getting worse now, it could be the recoil spring. If it's happening after a few hundred rounds, it might be the extractor or ejector. The extractor is the part on the slide that is next to the port where the cases fly out. If that part is broken, it can't grab the case rim to pull the case out of the chamber. Check for a "lip" that would grab cases by their rims. If that looks good, check the ejector. This is a "rod" looking part in the frame that sticks out. It's job is to help push the case out during extraction. Rare, but that part can break off. Good luck!!!
Is this pistol just less snappy than the tp9sa? My sa is very snappy. I’ve changed grip techniques and body positions. I was brand new never shot. I’ve put around 500 rounds through it. Do they take a while to break the recoil spring in good or what? I’ve got used to the follow up with it and it is a very accurate pistol. It just feels like they have too heavy of a recoil spring in it or something.
Thanks for the note - it was my friend's TP9SFx and we both thought the ergos and the overall fit and finish was great, trigger was awesome, but we had too many problems with the extraction/ejection for 147 grain ammo. I'm guessing if we'd replaced the recoil spring w/something lighter it would've cleaned up. My P320 X-Five initially had some issues similar until I lowered the recoil spring from 15lb to 12lb, now it runs great. However, my friend decided to sell it, so we never changed recoil springs. I'd suggest you reach out to Canik and ask them for a different recoil spring - from what I've read, they are good about sending them.
I'm glad mines don't have that problem
Yeah, that's good - not everybody has had the issue - my guess is that there is a small quality control issue w/the recoil spring for some folks. The pistol is a great value for the money, when they run, they are every bit as good as the Walther PPQ they copied, for a fraction of the price! www.handgunhero.com/compare/canik-tp9sfx-vs-walther-ppq-q5-match-m2
@@exxonv1719 i carry my mete sft as my edc right now
Could this be caused by the magazines themselves?
I haven't run any 147gr through my TP9SFx yet, I just bought mine so I haven't had that opportunity. I'll give it a go next time I'm out with the stock recoil spring, and then the Sprinco one.
I hope your pistol runs well! From what I've read, some run 147 out of the box, some need the spring changes. I think it comes down to quality of the springs vs. quality of the firearm. This Canik is basicially a copy (almost exact) of the Walther PPQ, but you get the optics option, great trigger, great capacity, and great color for a lower price! If you don't get the one that runs 147 well, just get the springs upgraded - I'm sure you'll love the pistol. It was a joy to shoot when it ran for us :).
Seems like there is something wrong with the extractor. Maybe send it back to the company and have them look at it. I had a similar problem with a gun in a the past and the extractor was broken off completely.
Hurricane Tai Or, possibly the ejector is not in exact alignment. I noticed some of the rounds were bouncing forward. It's almost like the brass is impacting the center of the ejector, instead of towards the left side, as it should be. You're right tho.... Most likely an extractor issue.
I own SFX- They intentionally made the SFX for gunnin and running. Comp! FAST! So they put heavy spring in it for purposes of PLUS P Ammo and 124 grain which has hotter load powder in it. So shooting anything else AKA cheaper ammo you most likely going to suffer problems. Theres No need for recall it intentional. If you want to shoot cheaper ammo like me just change spring out. I emailed them and are sending me new one for free. In mean while I lock my pistol open during the night with full mag next to it just in case and this may well fix problem as some other SFX owners have said worked. Ill rack the slide 100 times a day for 10 days loosen that spring up a bit. I bought mine new and took to range and had out of 300 rds 115 grain Fiocchi 11 or 12 stove pipes. Very annoying but at that time i didnt know about the Plus p rating for this pistol and its spring.
I wonder if adding a threaded barrel and suppressor would work with 147 since it is usually subsonic anyway?
I'm not sure - 147 didn't run well through our model - it only ran 115 reliably. Good luck!!!
Is the 147 marked subsonic? I know most lf it would be sub sonic anyway, but when loaded intentionally for that, they are usually charged lighter as well.
Yep, it's subsonic - we can shoot 115 through 100% reliable, 124 as well, but 147 isn't working well. The rub for me, I run 147 through all my competition guns with the same ammo (Glock 34, XDm 5.25, CZ SP-01 Shadow, P320, P320 X-Five, S&W M&P9 Pro and M2.0 5", P226 Legion/TacOps, etc. - shot all those this last year in IDPA/USPSA Matches). They all run Freedom Munitions 147 New and Reman just fine (along with 115/124 grain). The Canik TP9SFx seems to be marketed as a competition gun (at least we though so, 5" barrel, awesome trigger, Optics Ready), so we were surprised it would not run a competition load. I know we can run 115 or 124, or I can work up a load for 147 that will run, but one goal is to be as close to minimum power factor as possible, and while I can run that ammo in all the other pistols noted above, we can't get it to run in the Canik TP9XFx. If someone is not looking to run it for competition, or doesn't care about 147 grain subsonic minimum power factor loads, then this is an incredible buy, but if they want a pistol that runs like the other competition pistols noted above (that run 147 lower power loads), they might be disappointed. To me, the quest for a recoil spring that works with a lower power load is the best bet - for the extra $50 or less, you have one heck of a pistol with the Canik TP9SFx - just bummed it won't run w/out the fix - but hey, it is what it is :).
If its rated for plus p, It should have a stronger spring than the standard rated pistols. Which will buffer the recoil better. The downside is the subsonic ammo wont create enough pressure to move the slide enough to eject properly. A good gunsmith can calibrate the spring to run the subsonic. But then the +P would wear the gun out much faster. Just a "different" spring wont necessarily change anything. Its likely the same tension as the original.
Thanks - makes sense, I just find it interesting that Canik would rate it for Plus P - probably due to NATO 9mm vs. trying to really capture the US Competition Market (my guess). Plus P would wear it down I'm sure, seems to be a pretty solid pistol though. Thanks again Doug!
Thanks for being one of the Chanel Operators who actually reads the comments, and taking the time to reply.. Its become a very rare thing these days. After I get mine tuned with wolf springs, Ill send details on the parts😀
My real concern is going to be longer range accuracy tuning. But, I also want it to eat all (off the shelf) ammo reliably.
Thank you - appreciate the feedback. Would love to get those details when you have them (tuned to run and for accuracy), I feel Canik has a good platform (pretty much a PPQ :)), great price.
My new TP9 Elite Combat does NOT care for 147gr, it will run 115gr and 124gr all day long no issues, and about a 10% failure to return to battery with the 147gr.
AREX Rex Zero 1 rules supreme !!👍🏻
I’m running factory spring and also tested 200rds with 147 and I hated it it jams every couple of bullets. I change to 135-124-115 and made 500rds of each one not a single problem. I guess Canik design this for lower power ammo less than 140gr
I have the same issue with mine. 147 gr does not eject all the time. I am switching to 124 gr to see if the problem goes away.
We were able to get factor 124 to run much better - last test we saw 2 failures out of 200 rounds. 115 grain runs 100%. The guys I compete with generally like to use 147 for lower muzzle flip / higher power factor, but not in a Canik, unfortunately :(.
I just bought a Canik. Jammed every single round. I’m disappointed. Feel like it’s a feed ramp issue.
Sorry to hear that. Could be feed ramp issues, could be the recoil spring - you might contact CANiK USA (www.canikusa.com/contact). Good luck!
www.canikusa.com/canik-single-action-recoil-spring-pack
They will send you a lighter recoil spring and it fixes that issue. The canik likes nato and +p ammo.
Did you replace recoil slide spring I have the same gun nothing but problems please I need help
Sorry Julio, my friend sold it (it was his). You can contact Canik to see if they'll send you bnb a new recoil spring.
Is your gun lubed properly! I see so many reviews that have theses issues with different guns and I truly believe it's a lube is due more than anything. You didn't rely be when you took it apart.
Hi Michael, it wasn't mine, but my buddy does lube them well, and this was the 2nd or 3rd time we shot it. He sold it not long after this video.
Great I'll not waste my money on one then, stay the course and go Glock👍
:) - they are pretty inexpensive, and from what I've been told (in the comments), there are some that run just fine out of the box w/all ammo - but not all. They come w/a great option for optics, an incredible trigger, and I've also been told they can be tweaked with a new recoil spring. But for me (in 2018), out of the box should work on any sample (maybe I'm just picky). My Glock, Sig, M&P, and CZ pistols will all run any production ammo (115/124/147) out of the box - that's why we were disappointed. Can't go wrong with Glock - but those Gen 5 MSRP prices (which Glock holds dealers to very strictly) are high right now! A Gen3 or Gen4 is a great value unless you are a lefty and want the ambi-slide release, then the G5 is the best option. Good luck!
I’ve never seen this out of the sfx ! I’m pretty sure that ammo is straight garbage lol
Has anyone had problems with the magazine popping out after the first few shots when you load all 20 into it?
I haven't had such issues with mine.
You might want to remove the large mag release button, and either run the small one or simply run it without the extended buttons all together.
I’ve put 2000 rds through mine with only two issues both with my first 50 rds.
I feel like this is more of an extractor issue, from your POV it seems like a weak extractor which would explain the stove pipes.
My friend sold it, it ran 115 and 124 grain just fine. Personally I felt it was an over powered recoil spring, but unfortunately we will never know. The pistol was quite impressive and as I understand it, the manufacturer has addressed issues, so it's a great buy for the price.
Extractors have nothing to do with it. The round ejects from the recoil of the chamber and bounces off a little nub on the left of the mag well.
*YOU HAAAAAAVE TO break this gun in using 100 rounds of 124 nato Spec : There's all sorts of threads regarding this issue on the Canik Forum:* You can also get an updated RGS from Century
Thanks Cramer. I've read those myself and while I understand that is their break-in requirement, is that noted in their manual? Also, it's 2017 and I just find it hard to believe a modern day pistol would require that to be reliable. If Century is going to market a pistol in the United States, you'd think they'd either have an updated RGS from the factory that works with 115 - 147 grain ammo like other companies (Glock, Sig, Smith, Walther, H&K), or they'd made sure it was stamped all over the package (MUST USE NATO 124 FOR BREAK IN PERIOD). Either way, it's a nice pistol for sure, but I personally will pass on one due to the problems we've seen with them. Not shooting the messenger :) - just pointing out my personal frustration with Century/Canik.
David Valdez *I agree with you* Been shooting 40 years and never had to break a Gun in before: I even went so far as to buy the Spinco Guide Rod with 13 & 15 pound Springs and couldn't get Freedom Ammo of any sort to fire right . Once I ran 100 round of Winchester White Box 124 Nato thru it things totally changed: I've had or still own all the Brands you mention. Never had top break any in. I will say this Canik slide to frame fit is tight for a Poly gun. Maybe that has something to do with in. As for owners manuals . I haven't read an owners manual for many years. Most aren't very informative.
Totally agree on all points! Owner's manuals are horrible too, I go to UA-cam :). I loved the ergonomics, trigger, look, recoil, slide to frame fit, etc. The Canik Pistols are a great buy, just hate the idea of a break in period and needing specific ammo.
David Valdez had to break in my new Glock 19 gen 4 out the box. 4 fte out the box.. It's ridiculous that any manufacturer requires a break in period with a gun u use to potential defend your life
@@cramerlong2276 I saw your post and did the same thing. Now it seems to run everything from Fed. 115 to Syntec 150
I hate to get into this, but...IMO, it depends on the power factor you are running. You run 147 because of the softer recoil. 147 requires less powder for the same power factor and thus there is less (potential, turned into kinetic) energy available to be turned into operating the slide. That energy has to fight the recoil spring. The slide needs to go back far enough and with enough ummpfh (like the technical term?) left for the cartridge to bounce out when it hits the extractor. One of the things that I believe you are doing during break-in is weakening the slide spring (from factory). Try a weaker recoil spring for higher grain ammo.
No argument here, all that is what I understand as well. How many other production 9mm striker fired guns NEED to have hot ammo to run? I own most of them (Glock, Sig, Springfield, Smith & Wesson, etc.) and they all run 115 to 147 just fine. That's my point really. Sell a striker fired 9mm handgun targeted at the competition or carry market in the US, and it should meet the same standard (my opinion, I know). Everyone admits the gun won't run weak ammo, but all my other 9's do just fine.
I shoot a Limited Pro and you have to change springs between different ammo power factors. My Walther PPQ and my former SA XDM 4.5 needed spring changes too to improve reliability...just saying. It would be interesting to see how extensive a testing process gun manufacturers have for different ammo types and power factors. Did the problem work itself out after a month of shooting it or did you contact the importer?
Hey Rob, I'm not familiar with a Limited Pro, but I did shoot a PPQ M2 in USPSA Production Minor and it did great w/147 Freedom. My XDm 5.25 also did great with the same ammo in USPSA Production, both of those matches are on the channel. I agree, it would be interesting to see how extension the testing goes - my guess is that Canik had some QC problems with their springs, cause I have conflicting info in the comments about what ammo works. We were able to test 115 grain and ran the better part of a case through the TP9SFx and it ate everything w/out problems, but as soon as we went back to 147, it was a jam-o-matic. My buddy did contact the importer, they mailed him a new spring, and he promptly sold the gun, so we can't test it anymore. Someone got a great deal though, as he included a Vortex Venom and the springs. I hope they run 115 grain or 124 NATO :).
Don't use 115gr in the tp9sfx, slide and slide spring is to heavy for it.
Where’s the most popular ammo. 124 gr???
For me, 124 grain and 147 grain, but most people shoot 115 grain.
It extracts fine…it's the ejection that is the problem.
Your erratic extraction/ejection is related more to the cheap ammo than the gun itself.
Thank you.. I only shoot 147
Why it’s too slow!! Get a 10 mm w 180 grain 😎
You buy a Canik, what do you expect?
Not my Canik, but my friend sold it :)
Some pleaple say glock is marketing they might be right but they market on that level because they trust the reliability of their products proven over the years I’ve seen deep fried glock run perfectly with no failures yes canik has the best trigger but @ what price no thanks
Just picked up a new TP9sfx and put 200 rounds of 115gr through it with multiple fte. Going to buy some 124gr nato and see how that runs in it.
looking at getting a tp9sfx, were you able to get yours running?
Just bad ammo for your gun change your springs or ammo everyone will have problems if you do what your doing they wouldn’t make different springs if it weren’t the case
Gteat video. Had a few issues with mine as well
I hope you were able to get it working - nice pistol for sure. My friend sold his (this one).
@@exxonv1719 new extractor and a little internal polishing. Shoots great now
Man mine is doing the same. What was the final result
I've heard from people who wear they love their Canik, and then some who run into these same issues. Quite a few folks disparage our choice of ammo, etc., but I can tell you that I've heard from enough people to believe that it is a production issue with Canik. If you get a good one, you are a satisfied customer - if not, you need to reach out to them and see if they'll fix it. Lots of folks report getting different recoil springs from Canik that fix the issue. Good luck!
I ran 50 rounds of the 147grain Freedom ammo with out failures to eject. also 135 gr Freedom and 115 gr Speers Lawmen not one failure to eject. I have some 165 gr Rush that I plan to try.
Good, sounds like you got a good one!
Don’t use 147 nor +p
I'm not sure if anything that is made in the Middle East is reliable regarding guns, electronics and motorized components.
Every video every comparison or malfunction I’ve seen is compared to glock reliability 115grain gun never heard of that before😂 conclusion change trigger and sights and nobody will beat glock
glock is on the way out! CANIK BEST 9MM. TRIGGER IN STRIKER FIRED PISTOLS OUT THERE, IRON SIGHTS. the price of 300$ for the elite and you do not have to do anything with it right out of box. gluck 500,trigger 150+
sights optic 110, none of this includes install. over 800$ and it’s still a pos! The real 9mm. CZ-P-01!
@@brc1945 i have a glock 34 and i got a canik tp9sfx, i'd choose my canik over the glock competition pistol anyday,way better trigger way better sights,better feel when holding it, dont get me wrong i love my glock competition but to get it to shoot like my sfx i would have to add hundreds of dollars in upgrades on a pistol thats already way more expensive then this sfx, i have to agree with you no factory glock can come close to touching a canik sfx these people are crazy,and most of us with sfx have had 0 malfunctions after around 1300 rounds so far lol
It's another you get what you pay for , like Rex Zero. It's a cheap knock off, and you really aren't saving when customer service sucks or is non existent.
I've not tried the Rex Zero - but I agree w/you, quality and customer service count!
Freedom munitions are producing crap ammo these days.
Don't understand why ya gotta run 147gr. Anyway. Is it a man thing? I mean your just as dead fron a 115 gr hornady xtp...........or 90gr lehigh critical defense.
Man thing? If it was a man thing, I'd be running .45 ACP :). Seriously, for me 147 grain shoots flatter (less muzzle flip). The Canik TP9SFx was made for competition, in competition, I shoot 147 grain.
David Valdez I also shoot 147 for competition because I also feel it shoots flatter and it never has issues making power factor.
We competition shooters run 147s for production/SSP, flat and PF. 124s for open 9mm major...
Use some decent ammo for Christ sake! 😩
What is good ammo for this gun? Thanks
canik tp9 sfx better than glok serıes