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Is Iron Man Citizen Kane? Is Barbie the story of The Wizard of Oz? On The Deep Dive and New Rockstars channels, Erik Voss has often shared his film analysis theory that Citizen Kane and The Wizard of Oz were so influential to American cinema that every film since, either intentionally or unintentionally, have tapped into one of those two story types and core myths unique to the American experience. In this video, Erik finally explains what this means.
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We did it. We broke Erik. He’s literally explained every movie. What’s left for him anymore?
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@@dreadfulkekz5238 “I think the 313K of us should come up with a team name for this channel.”
The end of an era
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Always gonna come to Shang-Chi's defense -- I don't think it's an unwieldy mix of the two, I think Wenwu's story specifically is a Citizen Kane one, and Shang-Chi's story is a Wizard of Oz one, and the movie spins on the struggle between the inherent cynicism of Wenwu/Kane and the inherent optimism of Shang-Chi/Oz.
I love defenders of Shang-Chi!
@@girlirl Me too!
I gotta say I love the theory that there are movies trying to be Wizard of Oz or Citizen Kane, and it really shows the influence those two movies they are decades after their releases.
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No, it doesn't and I'm not sure why you would lie about that
@@JosejuanBlanco10fr wtf🤣🤣
I’m writing a zombie point break parkour Baki type story of story and I’m inspired by the walking dead comics to make something greater…..
LOVING the deep dives!!
This video is a PERFECT example of why we desperately NEEDED Erik Voss to create *The Deep Dive* channel. Clear, concise, informative, entertaining, beautifully done in every way. Thank you so much, Erik!!! 🤗🥰
Both those types of stories can be so relatable to so many. So makes sense we would love to hear theses stories retold over and over just in different ways. Great Video!
I would love your next invosstigation to be on movie posters, mainly what makes a good one and why modern ones are getting worse
While you wait for that, Nerdstalgic did an episode on that. What Killed the Movie Poster, if you’re interested.
@@arifikeI also recommend that one. I LOVE Nerdstalgic!!!
So you're telling me Forrest Gump is both types of movie? He goes on the hero's journey like the Wizard of Oz, and it's also following a singular character through a realistic rise and fall like Citizen Kane
Same can be said for Ratatouille
Thank you for finally explaining this. I have heard you mention it often and it made some sense to me but hearing a full explanation helps me grasp the concept much better. Thank You!
I really love this pov, and the deep dive overall. Now I have to go over every movie I’ve ever loved
I was totally waiting for this particular Deep Dive! And so freakin true!
Me toooo
I’ve been WAITING for this video. Absolutely WAITING. Thank you for putting it out
You’re so right with this, I literally read a book about Deeply Analyzing Film & Critical thinking and they use Citizen Kane in this exact way to explain film
I thoroughly enjoy this channel! Whenever a Deep Dive video comes up I’m like “let’s go!!!!”
Barb and Opp success also was so explosive because of the marketing push. Fascinating how that was a key part of their success. Wouldn’t be surprised if this happened again.
You bet that Hollywood is analyzing this phenomenon, in order to capitalize it! Taylor Swift's concert movie is also going to be studied...
I think it was the memes that got everyone into watching Barbie. Literally
@@younghan3573 They can analyze all they want, but getting that lightning to strike twice is exponentially harder in practice. Not saying there's no point in the analysis at all, but the studios should realize that sometimes *not* making another is better.
@nunyabizness214. Or that it was supposed to be a dumb fun family film with bright colors.
Which is what I expected but it turned out to be wildly different but still kept a lot of those things I mentioned above.
The reason Barbie out did Oppenheimer is because one is brand recognition for something that's supposed to help you ease the pain of a troubling world by giving you an escape for a moment. The other is meant to remind you just how dangerous and destructive world is and can be.
@@flashbrad011 Yeah it was fun, colorful dumb looking movie but
we're not talking about who did better, we're talking about marketing, word of mouth, memes, that introduced people to Barbie movie and Ryan Gosling memers Kept promoting Barbie.
I needed Erik to explain to me citizen Kane 3 years ago in my online film classes.
After hearing you reference these two movies in countless vids I’m glad you made this deep dive!
I've been waiting for this! Thank you!
Outstanding, insightful and entertaining work! Many thanks, Erik!
I thank you for this insight. It points to something that actually exists in our heads. Nicely done!
Loving the analogies!
Very thought-provoking, rush thank you! You asked for suggestions for your next Invosstigation? What about Super-Hero sequels that were never made? Nicholas Cage as Superman, Spiderman 4 with Tobey Maguire etc? That would be a fun anthology
I always find myself waiting for another upload from here or New Rockstars, these videos have become part of a daily routine ❤️
Great theory and video Erik. Thank you.
So glad you made this video, I was wondering what you meant, and now it's very clear 😊
Basically, this was a breakdown about "fake movies" (Hollywood blockbusters meant for escapism) and "real movies" (independent arthouse flicks meant to progress the traditions of cinema), and I LOVED every minute of this.
More of these please???
"independent arthouse flicks meant to progress the traditions of cinema" a lot of blockbusters could fit this description
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How so?
@@thealjohnsonshow2188 you need examples? Jaws, The Matrix, Terminator 2, Avatar, Die Hard, Kill Bill
I wouldn't say just American or just movies, but as stories go the 2 types are
1. Extraordinary person in an ordinary world.
2. Ordinary person in an extraordinary world.
From the very first time Erik mentioned this theory, I hoped he would fully analyze this. SO glad he finally did.
Thank you so much for all your great work. Love from Belgium 🇧🇪 ❤
Yes! I’d been hoping you were going break this down
I think you've got this nailed, great stuff!
Been waiting on this one for a while
I've been hoping Erik would finally break down this theory, and it didn't disappoint.
I loved this theory. It also draws a clear distinction between movies which are trying to be what they are which ones are not. I would love an invosstigation about what universes like the MCU could be like taking into account the strike, their ratings, and the current situation. Love the deep dives!
Love your content! Would love to see you deep dive some mainstream horror, like Hereditary or Nope!
Love this video . Great job Eric
I’m so glad you finally explained this!! Thanks
Could it be that "It's a Wonderful Life" is an odd hybrid of the two forms -- a movie that starts out as a disruptor story, then transitions into a traveler story?
RIP to all of us who have watched neither of these two movies
I'd like to add King Kong as a third group. The film made for the sake of the spectacle.
This is why Erik is the best. He gets it
I felt the same way the first time I watched 2001 A Space Odyssey. Every space sci-fi movie after that I would say "its just 2001 with more talking" 😂😂😂
This was the video we were waiting for! Excellent invosstigation! 😸🕵️♀️
After hearing this come up a few times I’m excited to finally have a video dedicated to it! The fabric of every movie there after
Think I’ll watch another video from the deep dive! Well done.
So good! Thanks Eric!
I love this theory - but I find it much harder to match up the citizen Kane one. Oz seems so obvious so by comparison it’s tough to connect Kane.
Love Blank Check! Nice shoutout, and great dive!
If you want to go more down this film study route, I would love to hear your thoughts about how differently my wife and I watch movies. I try to be in the moment and put myself into the shoes of the character. I treat it like an escape. My wife on the other hand, treats it like a puzzle. She's guessing what's happening the whole way. And she knows enough patterns in film that she often guessed correctly. Does the film maker care which type of audience member we are? Is one of us viewing it wrong?
Been dying for this video. You been using this expression for a good while now
This was extremly interesting. Thank you
I'm so glad you launched this channel and get to explore these themes and peel back these layers. You must have been hungry for it for some time, and the result of finally getting to open the basement door is delicious.
Been waiting for this
Been waiting for this video 😂
Great video Erik 👍
This kind of analysis is why I subscribed. LOVE this ongoing theory and yes, the latest marvel movies struggle because they don’t know what they are anymore.
Now do your dancers vs non dancers.
Wow, what an amazing analogy!!😮❤️ Moving on forward, I'll be categorizing every movie I watch!! Thanks a lot Erick! 🙄🤦🏽♂️😂
Love it; good perspective for sure.
Very well put
Love this sort of analysis. I’d love to see a video on the difference between technically great movies and personal favorite movies
Amazing!
So thrilled to have found your channel.
Loved your deep dive on Alien and Aliens!
Please do Aliens 3!!!
Every one least favorite...
But I'd love to see it done.
❤😊
This is great! I can’t wait to see something like this about the Dancers and non dancers debate!
That was really cool and really interesting :)
Really good insight here...... also explains some of the lack-lustre MCU movies.... makes sense :)
I love this channel!!!
As you showed the opening clip, I was struck by how Tony Stark's overall arc started out as Citizen Kane, but as he truly became part of a team, interwove elements of Oz. It even ends (in a deleted scene) with a redemptive dream. What do y'all think?
Lol this one’s gonna go farther then the rest. Should be interesting to watch this video grow.
One of the best written NR Iepisodes I’ve ever seen. Great job Eric. The MCU sh** the bed and you adapted. You guys have talent
Great video Erik.
Great video 🙏🙏🙏
On the one hand, this is an incredible theory and great video.
On the other hand, I will now be the most annoying person in my friend group after seeing *any* movie.
Brilliant, Erik. It's a travesty that Citizen Kane isn't appreciated more by everyone under 50.
Very interesting theory! it spurns some thought on films and stories.
I always inferred it as a sort of setting driven vs character driven but i like this detailed explanation more
I agree with you 100%. Great stuff here Eric!
Both are actually just separate derivative outcomes of The Hero's Journey are they not? Oz being the start and overcoming successfully and return home. Kane being the climatic failure of the Journey and the aftermath of the initial story.
Cool video erik
This is a great analysis. I think you should write a short book on this…
Love Eric on this channel. Love him on NR but he always felt kindve washed down to be more friendly, quick, view oriented.
This is like his actual style manifest
Whoa ! That ws quite the fascinating take on American movies.
I'm wondering how applicable it is to other countries cinema
This is what I’ve all been waiting for
You make a very interesting point. One of my favorite movies out there is Fight Club and it seems to fit into both categories. Thanks for the paradigm shift.
THANKS for this, Voss!!!!
Simple Character driven & Plot driven stories!
Luke = The Traveler
Anakin = The Disruptor
thank u mr. voss. this was so good.
Can we pretty please get a wizard of ox deep dive?!? Just the sepia tone fact made me want one!!
Hello! What have we here? Another spectacular production, no doubt...?
Just curious, could you give examples of movies that are neither one of these types? Thanks for the videos.
I'm going to go watch Citizen Kane now, thanks Eric!
This is why I LOVE Erik Voss... I miss the old New Rockstars, But I'll always love Erik Voss's analysis... 💯 💯 💯
Joe vs the Volcano! A perfect blend of the 2 kinds of film you talked about here! And it finds a pitch perfect balance with Tom Hanks and Meg Ryan in their first romcom together. But it is so much more than a rom com.
It's a philosophical masterpiece, with one of the greatest soundtracks ever.
It deserves a deep dive! Why?
The film-making, the symbolism, the feels!
If you haven't seen it (inconceivable), please do yourself the favor of enjoying it for yourself, even if you don't do anything for the channel with it. 🙏
I think it's not just Americans it's many other people from various walks of life who enjoy those 2 stereotypical types of movies especially if they are done right. For example EEAAO, Eternal sunshine of the spotless mind, etc.
This is a fascinating theory, and one that relies heavily on these two films making that big of an impact within American cinema and trickling down over generations of influence.
Honestly I'm surprised you didn't address the Seven Archetypes or its precursors. The old adage that there are only X amount of stories retold.
I don't know if there's enough here for a book, but I think it could stand beside these other analyses .
Can you do a breakdown for Presentation movie plz?
Absolutely nailed it on why Quantumania and Love & Thunder feel off. Trying to tell two different stories simultaneously in a single film that don't parallel in their goals. The heroes of Quantumania going on a Wizard of Ants adventure while trying to do Citizen Kang. 😂
I would love to see a Signs deep dive!
This is great, Voss. Well done.
We need a spy kids breakdown next! Robet Rodriguez created cinematic gold with that trilogy and it needs its time to shine!
I LOVE YOU ERIC VOSSSSS
Some sort of InVosstigation on Robert Eggers, Jordan Peele and Ari Aster films would be sweet!
This is why a gym will give you 2 amazing options w work outs, the two that are the ultimate two. The keto and the Mediterranean. But there are so many different shades, there is now way in hell it boils down so simplified