Two Vintage Peugeot 309 Cold Starts!
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- Even colder today and George my 1.3 1990 Peugeot 309 has been sitting in the road since Friday....It's now Monday.
Day off work so time for another cold start!
I also pull the cover off my 1989 Peugeot 309 1.6 GLX who was happily sleeping for the winter to see if she is up for it as well...haha!!!
Thanks for watching! :)
Best car Peugeot ever made.
I can't even remember the last time I saw these models on the road. Lovely old pugs.
Even though this were recorded a mere eight years ago it's amazing the amount of cars on the road that would today be considered mildly interesting.
Really lovely 309s you've got there!
I own a 1988 205 XE 954cc 4 gears, starts up like brand new even after 6 months sitting without even disconnecting the battery!
It happened to me a few times too to start it in extreme cold and I was surprised too to see it liking the full choke like your 309 does, normally I have to be superfast pushing it back in to avoid the engine revving too high.
And what you said about the comfy seats, light steering and great visibility is the pure truth!!
I'm not saying this because I have two of my own...They are Great!
I use 'George' the 1.3 OHV 309 every day to go to work and back...He never misses a beat...Rain or shine...Hot or cold! At the end of the day when I get out of my 2012 modern work car and back into the 309 for the drive home, old George feels like a Rolls Royce! Comfy seats, lite steering, great visibility...Everything is in the right place! 40+mpg! Both aced their MOT's in November...No advisories! GET ONE!!! :)
Well done George and George’s older sister nice cars
This video was 9 years ago...But they are both still fine 😊
George is great!
Still kicking myself for not buying one of two 309's I saw for sale about a year ago.
Should have bought it! They are great cars...This video was made in 2012 and they are both still going strong!
No rust, no issues...Just fun! The 1.6 flew through its MOT last weekend...No advisories :)
Yeah well, my Renault Megane II 1.6 was getting repaired (well, it was more of a post mortem after the throttle body exploded on the motorway) and I was hopeful it would be back on the road: but alas, I was wrong!
Currently dailying a Peugeot 106 1.1, which isn't the fastest thing in the world, but it sure is a bag of fun round corners and in the city. Always keeping my eye out for 80s-90s Peugeot's though: getting rarer by the day here in the UK :(
I've had a bad day and you're making me laugh...Thank you! 'Post Mortem'...haha!!! So sorry for your loss! At least you can find humour in the situation. 106's are good...Getting far less common now. I like the TU engines, you're right though, a 1.1 106 with a CAT won't break any land speed records. It's the little 106 pedals that get me...Too small for my feet. The thing about 309's unlike other Peugeots is they were designed to be right hand drive...No Peugeot that I've driven feels as nice to drive as a 309. I really like the TU 1360cc (1.4) non CAT 309's, 205's and 106's...They will eat my XU5 1.6 309 for breakfast and she is by no means slow! The blue 309 you can see in this video was one of them...He's now in the scrapyard in the sky with your Megane...Poor old fella got hit 3 times while parked. The last time killed him. RIP Henry you never let us down...Especially taking cars out from a standing start at Traffic Lights...haha!!!
Lovely, I used to have 2 of these fun little cars. I got a 205 CJ now.
The best road holding car I've ever owned. Torsion bars on the rear, Mc Pherson struts on the front.
+Mark Bartlett I se you got the 205 GTI 1.6 pepper-pot alloys too. I had the same on mine. 185 / 60 / 14. D631 PKK in wedgewood blue. lol
+Mark Bartlett My 205 GTI has the 1.9 style Speedline alloys. I put 1.6 GTI style pepper pots on the 1.3 as wheel covers don't float my boat...haha!!!
It was like a rally car to drive
i share your love for the 309, i just got my first one, 1991 gti after searching for 8 or so years cant wait to get her on the road so i'm dailying a 106gti atm
+SCS 106 GTI...Very fast little car! If you can master the tiny pedals...haha!!! No problems like that with a 309...You will love your 309GTI once its on the road!!!
Hi Martyn...I always find genuine parts at pocket money prices on a popular auction site.
The other 309 has the later 1.4 TU engine like the 106, 206, 306...Got the gearbox from a 206 with less than 50K for 50 quid. My 1.3 has the same OHV engine as a Talbot Horizon...Chain driven sewing machine engine...last forever! The 1.6 has the XU OHC engine as used in the 205.
The 309 was the first British built Peugeot, even the brake servo is on the right, wipers round the right way too! :)
Had 3 of them. All company cars. White, blue and red. Lovely cars.
the most beautiful cars
Peugeot series from these categories ,,,
I love them so much,,,,,,,,,
I need more of your videos
I have a Peugeot 309 GRD, year 1991, I used every day to go to work.
She eats no oil, no water and no smoke!
This winter we had very cold in the Alps as everywhere.
By -20 degrees Celsus, every night to sleep outside, one blow heating, easy startup quarter turns.
It has 343 000 km only, no rust and no electronic problems too ! lol
I keep all my life !
Thanks for your comment brother ! :)
That engine will start 100 years from now.
309s - Nice cars, underrated.
jajaja great !!!! I have a Peugeot 309 GRD 1988, has 580.000 kms. Now, has a 1.905 cms3 big block of Berligo. it' s a wonderful car. I love him. congratulations !!!
+Federico Pasek Excellent! :)
309 XL in Wedgewood Blue 1.3 ohv with 3 doors was my first car. Made in 1987, think I got him (named Darwin) in 92/93 from memory.
I loved it.
It's good to see you're an avid 309 collector.
+iVlog Avid collector? These are my daily drivers...haha!!!
There is a Garage not far from me that uses the exact same 309 you had as a runaround. I asked them why they have it...The answer came back "Because it just won't quit" Made me smile! :)
i love 309's... one of the best handling and ride balance fwd cars..
and the petrol i had was a 1361cc carb.. dead silent at idel but roared at full throttle..
Among the Best car ever
Still both going strong in 2020 :)
great vid!
nice collection you have there
i love 80's and 90's peugeots i own a 504 S/W
"You've obviously got nothing else to do if you're watching me" Gotta admit, made me laugh that did.
Hey I really enjoyed this little vid! I used to have 1.9 diesel 309 - utterly dependable and a pleasure to drive and own. It had those little luxuries like electric windows, central locking and a rev counter too, which some cars of a similar age either didn't have or were very expensive extras. Looking back I don't know why I let that car go. Age, I guess? Well I know better now - new cars, fancy and tech brimmed as they are - are unreliable junk.
BobM925 Hi Bob, thanks for the nice comment! This video was made over three years ago...I still have both 309's, and they are both running better than ever! I agree with you about new cars...I have one provided for me by the company I work for...It enjoys a visit to the garage almost monthly, aways due to over complicated technology failures. If it was mine I would have dumped it by now, and it has only done 20K miles...haha!!!I woke my 1.6 GLX up from her winter sleep about a month ago, and have been using her daily ever since, for a car made in 1989 and registered on the 10th of January 1990 she does have loads of extras...Probably a similar package to your diesel.
You have to own, or have owned a 309 to appreciate how good they are...By your comment its clear you do! Thanks again! :)
88GTi That's brill! Glad you've still got them. I learned to drive in a 205, and owned a couple of them before the 309. Must be 13 years since I owned the 309, still miss it. I've owned some sheds over the years, lol, but the 309 and an old Vauxhall Cavalier I owned were two of my favourites
Haha!!! That's great! I also have a Peugeot 205 GTi and before the Peugeot's I had 2 Cavaliers in succession. The first one was a 1982 1.6L in henna red, I part exchanged it for a 9 month old 1987 2.0 litre CDi in nordic blue. They were great cars...But they rusted quite badly. The 2.0 litre CDi got bubbles on the wheel arches before its second birthday. Luckily the old 309's don't rust...I'm going to keep both of mine for as long as I can...I think they'll both do another 25 years...haha!!! :)
88GTi Cool - another Cav fan, lol. Mine were all the curvy Mk3 ones, I've owned three of them and all very rust prone. It's only a year since my last and favourite of all the cars I'v ever owned, an M-Reg LS 1.8, departed. A sad day for me and though mechanically A1 she required far too many costly rot repairs :( Now driving a modern Mondeo which, while nice to drive, has had far too many silly faults over the last 11 months than that last Cavalier had in 6 years. Hey ho, car's eh? It's always great to talk to a proper car fan - you can keep yer Porsche's and Lambo's gimme a proper run-of the-mill but dependable motor any day!
Oo norma!!! shees a little sportier than i thought.
ill send you a quality walmart ice scraper for each car!!!LOL
i only use kettle water if the door is frozen shut. which happened alot on patches
Not many left now...Sadly!
Just seen your other comment...If you can find one...Get one!
You've got to have one to understand how good they are...They don't seem to rust at all! Just did a massive service on George...Genuine parts from eBay are easy to get really cheaply! New disks...Rear shoes, wheel cylinders, handbrake cables, plugs, filters and oil...Change out of £50...haha!!! :)
im tempted to get one now...
Awesome. Miss my 98 306 1.9TD. Not as old as these beasts but still old enough to be a proper car with mechanical parts unlike the Laguna I am driving now where EVERYTHING is electrical and computerized and soulless.
Nice one. I scrapped mine about 6 or 7 years ago, bit rash now I think about it, was a good car basically.
Yeah I always feel like I'm hurting '98 Cougar with the early morning start-ups!
Nice one - new subscriber.
Brilliant vid, brought back some cold start manual choke memories from the 90s, I'll be getting a 309 gti in a couple of months when it's ready :)
+kevin pearson I've only just seen your comment...Did you get your 309 on the road?
Unfortunately no, the guy who I was supposed to be buying from upped the price to a ridiculous price! No where near what it was agreed, basically tried to bend me over a barrel, iv litteraly on Friday just bought a alfa romeo 147 1.9 jtdm 16v instead, modern car yes, however it's still got a load of character that you don't really see these days. Hope your 309s are still pulling strong!
I had a good laugh with your comments in the video,anyway,i also have 2 309s home,one is diesel,other one is an XS from switzerland,currently inoperational.
Happy to see there are more pug 309 fans out there,cheers mate,post some more videos.
I had 1.4 1990 5 speed crushed nearly VW factory in Poznań. That was good ,,donkey".
@mifan93 I'm filling in for CW...haha!!!
Good old Norma!...She was fast asleep for the winter and I woke her up good and proper!
Yes she is much sportier than George in every way!
He is the base model and she is the 'GLX' model. She has a much more powerful engine!
George didn't even come with a rev counter...That is a GLX dash that I fitted when I got him nearly 6 years ago! They're both great old cars though!
George wants a Blue scraper and Norma wants a Pink one...haha!!! :)
@RedRoosterRoad I have the two 309's...Next to the 309 under cover is a mint condition metallic black 1988 VW Golf GTI.
In front of George under the other cover is a mint condition red Peugeot 205 1.9 GTI.
I have a black Austin Mini in the small garage in front of the 205 GTI.
Before you ask why so many cars?...They're all old and on classic car insurance which is very cheap...I can do any work on them myself and I'm not very keen on new cars.
Hope that answers your question :)
Oh yeah feeling the 309 love!! I miss my mk1 3dr 1.3. Making do with a 306 ph3 1.4.
awesome!
Never had a problem with spares, apart from servicing they never seem to need anything
eBay is loaded with genuine parts at pocket money prices...Window glass and body panels might be hard to find...I've been putting things like that away for ages just in case. I also have spare starters, altenators, water pumps and carbs for both of them tucked away. I did change the water pump on the 1.6GLX when I did the cam belt...Just in case, the original was still fine though. Best cars I've ever had! :)
the first peugeot to be built in the UK.
You own a 309 :)
You understand how good they are!
Yes...You are my Brother in the Alps!
Be nice to see a GRD -20C cold start this winter :)
i Own a 309 1.3 gl and i am 17 and its only done 47,000 miles i love my pug
D3ADECHO GAMING Sorry for the slow reply...I've only just seen your comment.I can't think of a better place for a 309 than in the hands of a 17 year old! :)
If you still have it...What year is it? How's it doing?
You're right! Exactly what I say! :)
If someone said to me 10 years ago I would love Peugeot 309's...I would have laughed at them! I was VW all the way!
It wasn't till one of my mates turned up with one I realised over time how good they were! I wanted a cheap run around so I bought George unseen off eBay for £127...That was nearly 8 years ago...haha!!!
Without any shadow of a doubt...Cheapest and best car I've ever had! :)
I see till the end and i liked :P
I hope to see the next videos!
Chears from Portugal!
im sorry to ruin the 309 likes :>) lovely motors mate
More Videos Of all the 309's!!!!!!!!!!!! Please!
Make sure the choke flaps are closing when its cold. They should shut when you push the accelerator once. If they do shut...Don't pump the accelerator or hold it down when you crank as you will be opening them and taking the choke off. To cold start my 1.6 GLX...One pump, foot off and crank...Starts fine.
If your chokes aren't closing you have more work to do on your carb.
Don't know which distributor yours has...My 1.6 GLX has the same as the 1.4 TU engine...Black and square 'ish'.
@88GTi as soon as I have a bit of spare cash I am going too :) Grandad still has his Mi16 405 in his garage, had it since new and has 16,000 miles on the clock! Hopefully will be mine someday! Will get a cold start video when I am next over there.
309 likes nice one
I do love the sound of an old petrol engine on a cold morning!! Do you still have the Peugeots? I see that both are still MOTd and on the road, which is great - they are becoming so rare these days. I've got a 1996 405 1.9TD myself which I would never part with.
Yes I still have both of them. Nothing has changed, they always run great and never seem to age. 405's are getting a bit thin on the ground now...Take care of yours! :)
88GTi Now here's a challenge find a Peugeot 605
Its been 10 years and yet im here watching 309's starting up.
Dou you still have this cars? I have a 309 II 1.1 Graffic :D
Of course I do! 😊The 1.3 Look is currently SORN'd since Covid...(Just resting) But the 1.6 GLX passed her MOT last Saturday...No advisories as usual 🥰
@@88GTi That's so awesome, really good to know :D
Thank You! I love them both too! And my 1.9 205 GTI of course...I'm proud of all of them...haha!!
It's well below freezing here right now...Just been out in George...He's Great in the cold...Warms up fast and gives plenty of heat! He's always the same with the choke...Full out for cold start and then straight down to fast idle
We have more snow promised...Might have show him doing his thing again this year...He's 23 years old now!...Not even half way yet...haha!!
Thanks for your comment! :)
Very strong car, made in France ! ;-)
George is a good old soldier!
I've just got back from picking up an eBay win...Over a 100 miles on the motorway...I gave him a good hammering in the outside lane chasing the new cars along...He loves it...haha!!!
One thing is for sure...He'll always get you there and back without a drama!
Thanks for commenting! :)
@RedRoosterRoad If you leave the clutch up when you crank the car you are also turning the gearbox which in this weather puts more strain on the battery and starter motor.
The gearbox oil is all thick due to the cold...You saw the revs drop when I lifted the clutch up on the 309's as the gearbox engaged...Doesn't matter so much when the weather is warmer.
I might start the other two soon...Both of them have been unstarted since the end of July!!! :)
You say nobody uploads. I upload every other day, I've subscribed to you dude ;)
Lol George I like your 309
You can never have enough of a good thing...haha!!!
I've got a 205 GTI as well...Best cars I've ever had! :)
I'd have to agree with you they do handle very nicely indeed! :)
We also had a 1360cc 309 till recently...You can see him in the street in this video...Completely different engine from from both of the white 309's...Amazingly fast for such a small engine! The second 309 in this video has a 1580cc XU51C engine...The 1360 TU was slightly quicker acceleration...But the 1580cc always won on top speed...haha!!! Thanks for commenting! :)
i thought that maybe the case,most guages can differ especially petrol guages, ive had cars run out of fuel before the bottom mark and some still running when guage is below the red, what are the parts availability like for 309,s?heard u say the other one had new gearbox, im not a french car fan after experiencing a renault espace,lovely versatile monster of a car but monster repair bills to go with it lol,however i know pug make cracking diesels but whats the petrols like?thanks..martyn.
One is made in Fance...The other in the UK...Yes very strong cars!
22 & 23 years old now...No Rust! No Problems! :)
Thanks for your comment! :)
Where we can get good pegeouts now dude … i want it badly
could'nt the warm water crack the windows? or is it when the glass is warm they can crack ?
Thanks...There will be more...When the Snow comes! :)
Yes
I've been waiting years for someone to say that...haha!!!!
No..He wasn't started before I got in...The gauge goes to that postion as soon as you switch the ignition on.
If you tried to start him with the choke full out once he had already fired...You'd get nowhere...he'd just crank forever and flood.
Please feel free to come round on the coldest day in winter and start him yourself :)
can i just ask out of curiosity did someone start that car just prior to you? i ask because i noticed the temp guage go up near the 2nd mark before starting,or is this norm for that car?nice clean example by the way.
Be patient...They are both sitting out there waiting for the cold weather...haha!!!
I will have to make a new video soon...I like to make at least one new video a year...haha!!!
Boiling water might crack the glass when its freezing...I only used luke warm :)
Its not too late! Get one...haha!!! :)
It was true...haha!!!
Waiting for the cold weather this year to let the old fella do his stuff again! :)
Hey, I just purchased a 1990 309 GR, It was in pretty terrible cond, cleaned it up nicely, carb clean, new sparkplugs, etc, still having a problem with cold starts, car has an auto choke.. Any ideas? also, what kind of dizzy cap would I have to get ? Thanks!
Is that a radio microphone clipped on the dash and ifso what make and model
You have a keen eye! It's a basic 40 channel CB radio. Make is a Eurosonic III. I only keep it there now for a PA horn behind the front grille. It may be 9 years later, but he's still fine! Currently sorned due to Covid, but I moved him around on the drive today. The other 309 and my 205 are still in use though :)
@@88GTi arr cool, I use PMR446 walkie talkies my self and saw that when I was watching you cold start video of George where you drove round the block
@RedRoosterRoad UA-cam is broken! I can only reply when I 'View all comments'
When I hit the 'reply' button on the ordinary video page nothing happens!
Well done! The weathers going to be cold for a while...It really saves your battery and starter motor!
We had to change the gearbox on the blue 309 last weekend...It has a different engine to both of mine...It's the same engine as your 206 but with a carb...The replacement gearbox came from a 206...Don't panic...It wasn't yours...haha!!! :)
theres not many 309s left now is there?
Nice vid watch you don't melt the cover with exsaust tho lol I did once
+graffscoob I've never done it yet...But I'm sure my day will come...haha!!!
@EDP407 Thanks! I don't do new cars...If it has a CAT it's too new for me...My 1992 205 1.9 GTi is the newest car I have...haha!!!
Flog the Laguna before it costs you a fortune and get yourself a nice cheap old low mileage Pug...You know you wanna...haha!!! :)
Thanks for commenting! :)
how many pug's have you got?
warm water never fails, for me , warm/lukewarm..... not hot, not boiling.
+Stu Art I've seen boiling water smash a window...I've only ever used warm water...Works great! :)
has george only done 56,000 miles?
where did you get your car covers from and how much where they thanks
+AGDFRY It's just a cheap nylon slip over cover so the seat doesn't wear...I got them years ago from a wholesalers that is now closed. They came with rear covers (which I didn't use) I've just had a look on eBay...There are loads similar for around £3.50 a pair.
both petrol?
Brrrrr
Hi man are you classic car collector
Nope. I just don't like new cars. Last car I bought was in 2007.
@@88GTi nice ,i have peugeot 405 GLX 1.8 engine i love it more than the modern car
the effect warm water has on ice is not amazing
Haha
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