The WORST PLACE in The Boys Universe: The Godolkin School Explained | Gen V
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#Godolkin #GenV #GenVReview #Goldenboy
Today we take a look at one of, if not, the darkest The Boys stories in comics. The story arc "We Gotta Go Now" is the foundational basis for the new Amazon Studios show, Gen V. The show follows a group of college-aged Superheroes, or supes, as they battle for the coveted top 10 spot within the famed Godolkin school of crimefighting. Today we take a hard look at John Godolkin, the Godolkin school, and the story arc itself. Enjoy.
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Thanks for checking out the video, we are going to have a ton more Gen V content coming. One quick note... I didn't mention Pre-wiz (a booster program) at the Godolkin school. Almost everyone in The G-Men goes from Pre-Wiz to G-Wiz, to one of the major teams. I didn't explain that but undoubtedly, if i don't say it here, someone is going to "umm actually" me.
What hapened to comic books vs the world
God bless you and Jesus loves you very much. Put your faith in him and be saved ❤
Dude just an issue, if you don’t want certain topics on the show then don’t watch the show, the boys is a live action super hero southpark… they need to touch that theme with their "satire" to make people conscious
Lo que mas amo chicos es que hay que ser un X-Men para calificar como miembro de la Liga de la justicia
Honestly, the G-Men death was pretty sad, they were all victim and most of them were kidnapped as childs and injected comp v by force, BUT Godolkin really deserved to die
If Law and Order:SVU has taught me anything, it’s that victims often become the victimizers later in life if they don’t get help. So I agree with you.
@KeyIssues oh yeah, I mean look what happened with Drake bell, he was abused by Brian peck, and Bell himself would eventually be a victimized himself.
I want them to adapt John Godolkin in some way, similar to Frederick Vought. Maybe he founded the University in the 60s, but nobody knows he was a monster
Oh god i hope not i can't imagine Mr Krabs as a pedophile
They did that exact thing lol
@tonynorth6290 they did not. He wasn't even named John if I remember correctly.
@@erikpng are you stupid? When cate tells shetty to explain what the school is, she starts by explaining who Thomas godolkin is and how he was a behavioural scientist. Particularly the quote “you’re not here to study, the schools here to study you” comes to mind.
Which is quite literally exactly what Jose said would happen.
I forgot how F up villians outside Homelander are in The Boys universe.
Yeah Homelander is terrible but in a world where EVERYONE is terrible … you have to keep escalating and pushing the boundaries of villainy.
@@KeyIssues facts
Absolutely savage
Hes the Magnum Opus of their villains though.
Of course, but the ultimate villian behind it all is the Vought corporation...and by extension its shareholders and Capitalism.
Mirrors real life...sans the super powered people, but if it did exist, I don't doubt such similair level of exploitation and cover ups would also happen in the real world.
I don’t think we’re gonna see the SA like in the comics. It seems like “the woods” replaced that whole type of abuse and fits better with the boys tv series and smith grove and that wellness rehab place in the show. I think they smoothed their way out of all that.
Agreed
I mean, the Deep became basically Harvey Weinstein if he was attractive. I don't think the adaptation is above it
I just now realized that this show is the reverse of the boys premise, in the boys our main characters is a group of mostly non powered individuals fighting against twisted superhero to bring the truth to light, while in gen v they're figthing human who tries to hide the negative side of v'd up young supe
I know Hughie probably won’t will go undercover but it’d be nice to see the boys interact with the main characters from gen v
You will see Cameos :)
I really like how when The Boys show and Gen V deal with messed up topics they have a reason and purpose. Like the main girl cutting herself for her powers as an allegory for self harm or in The Boys where not every supe is some muderous sex deviant. The comics just had shit like that without any nuisance or tact. It was just blatantly “This supe is fucked up, but wait, another supe is even MORE fucked up! Why? Just cuz superheroes suck!” It gets edgy and boring unlike the show.
Well I don’t mind it because that’s life. To me it’s kind of refreshing to not have something sugarcoated like everything else is. Sometimes in real life there will not always be a reason for something that happens and if you always try to find one you’ll stress yourself out.
@@chickensandwich3575 that kind of thing is good in watchmen because senseless violence still had a purpose in the story, whether it was to comment about senseless violence, show how corruption causes it, or even to just show how much the world sucks. The Boys comics did it purely for shock value and out of hatred for the idea of super heroes.
@@chickensandwich3575keyword: SOMETIMES.
Not everyfuckingtime, my friend.
Don't forget about Cricket's powers being an allegory for eating disorders
2 episodes in and you can already see how much different the writters are going with this than the source material. Loving it so far
I always liked how v really only ever gave super strength, and extremely occasionally other things like flight, or any other power.
In the comics it gives generic powers because it’s basically a bootleg formula that The Boys use. The real compound V is basically unpredictable.
@@KeyIssues Ohhhhh. I did not know that. So.... Why the boys no anomalous powers? Just happened to work out that way?
I don't think the Godolkin University show can end the same way as the comic. In the comic, we just had a pedo professor and all his students get Order 66'd by some soldier goons because some corporate head was afraid they'd stain Vought's reputation. But in the show, the guy in charge of Vought now is Homelander, and I don't see him calling in the soldiers to purge the university, even if Butcher discovers something compromising about them. More likely, Homelander would just cover things up and use propaganda to sanitize the university's reputation while putting in someone he can trust to manage it in his name.
If you have seen episode 6 you will learn that a virus is being grown in The Woods that is fatal to Supes. A bio-weapon that can kill even Homelander and Ryan. 2 reasons for Homelander to eliminate Godolkin University. The virus is dangerous for him and especially for Ryan. Say what you will about Homelander, but he loves his son more than anything and would never allow anyone to harm him.
@@eliaswayne8237 So Homelander would probably just raze the place and then cover things up to sanitize the place.
Oh Jesus, they’re doing *this* arc.
Tbf, they are doing it better from what I have seen. Personally I don’t “like” much of the comics, I feel like the show has done every concept the comics attempt much better.
Yuh the comments are kinda shit
@@KeyIssues I actually really like the comic. I was referring to the big reveal at the end of the comic G-Men arc… that I won’t spell out for decency’s sake.
@@KeyIssuesAgreed. The comics is just one big middle finger to superheroes and making them look bad.
@@KeyIssuesI do agree that personally the show is just MUCH better than the comics could ever dream of being
I binged the first three episodes of "Gen V" and once again, Amazon has a hit! I'm really enjoying The Boys and all it's spinoffs!
I think the show's been excellent so far (up to episode 4). If you like the Boys, you should like this show. The characters are interesting. Even characters I thought I was going to dislike the whole time are winning me over.
This is one of the only things that i think might be changed to be less distrubing in the show, although we still don't know where the show's Godolkin is. Or if he's even alive. If the place was founded in the 60's, he's probably dead. But who knows, maybe the woods thing was inspired by the horrible things he did. "If he was able to hide what he did, we can to" type of deal.
It’s a very sad and dark story. And as normal, brutal. Though it does highlight one thing in life. People who get abused and such. Being whatever horrible titles. They can become that themselves in real life. Getting abused can make you into one. Idk if they could have told a better story. One where it’s less dark at the end. Or maybe less dark when building up to the show down
anyone remember team Super Duper, I was hoping they adapt that part in Gen V since GEN V was about teenagers, but I guess they will save that for Season 3 of the boys, that part is personally one of my faves cause it shows there is shades of grey and at the end of the day not everyone is fucking evil and there still is some innocent among the guilty.
The worst part for me, Was when the PreWiz kids get sent to die in a box
Yeah horrid
What’s messed up is that the people dropping them probably didn’t even know what they were dropping. Even Red River security has limits.
I kind of hope the show does a shift and actually shows more in school/classes that most “Teen shows” obviously omit to have more time with the plot/drama but feel like the show could come up with some dope fake electives, majors etc.
Sounds kinda boring
I agree
@@BlazeLit420 ok
hey! great video! minor thing i felt was worth mentioning; theres a high frequency whine in your mic audio, and its not so loud its distracting, it does give me a lil headache. having done some audio on the side, it sounds like maybe your mic input and power supply input are in proximity, and lowering your gain might mititgate it! again, great vid!
They kind of did the military strike murdering all of the children in the cartoon while the suicide was done by Goldenboy in episode 1. It's interesting how they take something from here and put it there and something from somewhere else and put it in the next thing rather than go with just the shock value of the comics.
I miss this channel man when I first got into the boys I came here for any questions I had
You’re always welcome
If the show does go down that path, I know the writers will handle it well in a nuanced way just like the main show
I was surprised at first that they were tackling this story but then again they would’ve had to do it eventually like Herogasm. In my my opinion tho I think we’ll only here about Godolkin in name only and we’ll have no character named John
I think he might appear out of retirement or something at a later stage of the show.
Our main hero in the ensemble seems to be Marie. And Marie has a vanishing sister. We know her family dosed her with V, so why wouldn't they dose her little sister as well? And if Godalkin has a kiddie program, then perhaps that's where sis ended up after Marie was arrested and confined. Similarly, Kate's brother might actually still be alive somewhere, and if she was dosed, then why not her brother? Godalkin could be taking special care of the little ones.
@@jenniferhanses lemme cook here I just came up with this recipe, what if the woods is a training facility for Black Noir. In the comics Noir was meant to be a fail safe incase Homelander went rogue not sure if that’s the same in the show so what if the woods purpose was to make the supes there docile and obedient enough to fill in as a replacement incase the real Noir dies in combat
Second* spinoff. You forgot about diabolical
Honestly Professor X has had some sketchy moments back in the old comics. I think he was simping for Jean. All Garth Ennis did was bring it up to 11.
Which is super fucking gross still.
Didn't they also tone it down a shit ton recently? Hopefully that's the case
@@shirothr5384it was toned down from the beginning bruh
Saw the first three episodes last week so far I am impressed, and let's see where they go with this but hopefully they don't go that route from the comics.
You are making a mistake in thinking here. Exactly because it makes you uncomfortable that subject matter needs to be talked about at times. Because fiction is often just a mirror of the real world. While I write this comment countless children get abused on this planet in some way, and the more people know about the signs to look for the more of it could be prevented (in theory). People have the tendency to "forget" unpleasant things if no one talks about it, which is exactly why such things must not be forgotten. Too many real Godolkins in this world.
And all the kids were kidnapped and forced into this life it sick
Frank miller's batman: "Time to kidnap, torture, and starve a random kid into being robin plus make out with Oliver queen wife while people burn to death"
Why they didn't call them the C-Men is beyond me.
I think the G refers to Godolkin
It would happen if his name is Codolkin
Watched the 1st 3 episodes last night and enjoyed it
He is pure evil than black noir aka homelander's clone!
Well at least there is no mention of a p*do headmaster.
Plus in the TV series, Jordon will possibly betray the group due to caring so much about their ranking that they might even put fame instead of stopping the conspiracy at the school, just like the supes in the comics who rather have the fame than stopping the abuse.
Can’t thank you enough for this boys video.
All you gotta do is hit the like button and that’s thanks enough for us!
@@KeyIssues I did more than hit the like button I subscribed to your channel a while back.
This is real good so far 👏
I’ve really enjoyed it
is the show really worth watching? everything I've read/heard about the books is absolutely some of the worst written, mean-spirited, disgusting stuff I've ever read from the superhero genre, and seems downright disrespectful to it.
The show is a decently loose adaptation, to the extent where large chunks of truly dreadful shit is changed. The show is more of a commentary on celebrities while the comic is a lot of shock value. They're both very different is what I'm saying.
@@dallonpainter2674 how much of the SA carries over to the show? and do they handle it better if so? that's one of the big things that stood out to me when I tried reading was that it was basically just SA torture p*rn, and I couldn't stand it.
@@apeshitforcapeshit9189Your decision seems pretty easy…
@@apeshitforcapeshit9189so far I don’t remember a whole lot of sexual assault if not none at all currently at least there might be some for later an later episode but for now I really like the show and it’s written a hell of a lot better than the comic book
@@apeshitforcapeshit9189 SA is handled pretty well, It's not a joke like in the comcis, it also comes up less often than the comics, where it happens almost every two issiues
A wise UA-camr once said…
“Hey look it’s the X men… but professor X actually diddles kids…😐😐😐😐”
Oh yeah, PointlessHub
I am a father as well but would any of us actually be surprised if some version of this does happen it will be a little less dark but I definitely see it happening in some way
“We can clean up our own shit” that went hard I can’t lie
Good job Nick
bro the boys seems to be obsessed with making every damn character a rapist, pedophile or pervert. shit weird ngl 😭
Now I’m not saying everybody is like this but I feel like if you give someone powers and they think they’re better than everyone then they think they can get whatever they want and deserve whatever they want and this life style breeds this behavior or I don’t know that’s just how I see it
Garth Ennis is an edgelord, no way around it.
id argue the show subverts that a tad bit, but not by much
@@digikeemertrue
The whole comic has been like that the whole time. Have you been living under a rock
If anything happens to Emma i will cry.
I read the comics after season 1 of the Boys, I agree the show is so much better, and Gen V so far is really great.
The comics seemed to just be over the top and shocking just for the sake of it.
I mean with how the deep turned out it’s entirely possible he went to the woods (or it’s just a lie vought is telling us to cover up them raising him in a lab)
Have to say I preferred the Ennis comics but the two shows are a decent enough adaptation. Better than the Preacher show anyway.
What I'd really like to see is an adaptation of Ennis's run on Hellblazer. Fantastic stuff.
Also I'm fascinated by the antipathy towards Ennis and wonder if it's a generation thing. I think he's funny and cynical,in much the same way Bill Hicks was, but I imagine Hicks, like Ennis, would not find an appreciative audience in younger people nowadays?
It’s mostly because Ennis’ writing feels very edgelordy in todays world. Like it’s extreme for no reason and just falls flat but that’s just a personally opinion
@@PTBIC edgy for the sake of being edgy? I don't know. always got the feeling he was genuine and honest in his opinions. He generally believed in what he said.
Honestly the comics just feel a bit pointless. It feels like he’s writing the comic because he hates superhero comics. At that point, why read it? Media born from “I don’t like this thing!!!” Just isn’t all that compelling.
@@mesquitaboys7863 There was also critique on celebrity culture, corporate cynicism and neo conservatism. Not just sarcasm towards superheroes.
I think there's the possibility of "he's criticising something I like" which is not fun for fans. I'm guilty of it myself from time to time.
Bruh, the Enniss comics were bad. The show is much better.
Ohh I am fucked, I already in love with literally every single main characters on the gen V show with just 3 episodes in 😭😭😭😭
Same
I legitimately did not know you were a father good for you
Two kids.
I bet they have lovely names
My theory for what I think will be revealed is that Brink was basically training Golden Boy in the woods in a way that's similar to an abusive coach in sport. I think Golden Boy's breakdown was an allegory for CTE. There's a scene earlier in episode 1 where he hugs Brink and behind him there's all this football memoribilia and then Golden Boy makes a disappointed face.
Yeah no
Gen V is really good so far I am fairly certain John Godolkin will be making an appearance
I’d be cool with him being dead within the show world already. Maybe like… vought had him killed after finding out what he was up too but kept the school named after him to avoid bad pr
according to press releases, God U is named after *Patrick Godolkin* - I assume the characters will be similar to the comic original, to some extent. If they decide to give us a flashback episode, maybe he'll be related to the Woods plot? Maybe, here's hoping he'll show up ! @@KeyIssues
I was reluctant to even like this video after completion tbh but then again the guy did die so a can’t complain
Good for you for being a father man, cool.
Me personally i want them to get really dark and realistic with the source material. Penn state baby.
Gen v has been amazing so far
Big agree
One thing I do like about the comic is that throughout one of the issues relating to the G-Men is that in every panel of a section inside the manor, that stupid tacky drink the G-Men are drinking is very subtly always in panel, like a subliminal advertisement. It's Ennis pointing out how much the G-Men are sellouts in a very meta way.
The creator really hates superheroes doesn’t he
You should read his punisher max series
@@KeyIssues Why
@@KeyIssuesI really wanna see a crossover of mcu or dcu with this or the boys just for reactions from actual heroes
0:28 it’s almost feel like it’s the boys version of euphoria this is like the show is saying f**k u to euphoria
5:35 i don't understand so SUPES can be killed with bullets? I thought they were invulnerable to bullets?
Some are extremely durable, even bulletproof. Most are just very very durable. But this is military grade hardware
If u remember Mesmer in the show had little V in him and no durability added, plus without fighting skills didn't have a chance against Butcher.
I love boys so much
😭😭
@@nise5412 the show!
I swear!!
Same
@@KeyIssues bro...
This isn’t the first spin off
@@Yeahright999what is the other
@@XXWeaponXIV it’s called the boys diabolical.
Its even better they filmed this at uoft
I really like that the Gen V show is taking the themes from the Godolkin storyline and dropping the actual plot. It was so tasteless in the comics. I am hoping we’ll see some random characters from it show up in the show though.
What will they do now that Chance has passed away?
His character is gonna be written off the show.
Pretty much john godolkin is Jeffery epistein if he formed the X men
How is everything the boys related so fucking good
We’re blessed
6 episodes in, and the show took it in another path. Nothing to do with this.
John Gogolkin reminds me of real life monstrous counterparts like John Money and Alfred Kinsey.
Do yourselves a favour and don't Google them.
I find godolkkn the professor x and jeffery epistein mashup
Comic black noir and john godolkin are like the versions of edp445!!!!
I assumed they wouldn’t go the G-Men route, WAYYYYYYYYY too dark for the show
So can someone explains to me why the military forces k1lled everyone ?
I literally did
@@KeyIssues thx about I literally didn't understand 🙃
The boys comics: "eh just kill them all I cba"
Okay I guess I'll watch Gen v😅
G-Style is such a “white guy tries to write black characters” thing
I knew it
Second spin off
They nailed tech knite in the show one of the more degenerate ones in the comic 😂
The Boys is so far so much better than the comics.
Having an all African American team is racist? As a Celtics fan I felt that 😔
No, it’s that they are placed within the team specifically bc of their race that makes it racist
God bless you and Jesus loves you very much. Put your faith in him and be saved ❤
No thanks
source material will always be better, tv are too scared to cross the line and politics.
Stereotypes aren’t bigoted they’re just annoying/stupid so “urban” isn’t racism.racism is an ideology where people are judged by race when it’s an irrelevant factor.
The show wasn’t that good. Maybe it’s less brutal… ish. But it’s still awkward. And just have unnecessary sexual moments. Idk the comic still stands well. The show didn’t make it better or do anything too interesting. Let alone the characters not all being great
Yeah it's basically to set up a Supe killing virus
I really want the spin off to end the way it did in the comics it literally be the perfect way for an unnecessary spin-off
I find the spin off necessary, it’s telling interesting stories within that world. But if the quality drops a few seasons down the line then sure… burn it all down haha
@@KeyIssues that’s my main issue a spin-off shouldn’t have done it the main show should have world building then spin-off. Tbh that’s my biggest issue the boys show is not that good and neither are the comics, they both have there strengths and weakness but saying one is better than the other is a bit of a stretch. Tbh only thing watchable is billy butcher
Watching this reminded me how bad the original comics were. I am sure Eric kripke will do a much more respectable job with this arc than edge lord ennis did
The My Hero Academia we deserved.
The last episode was pronoun brainwashing
Iam not a massive fan I hate all these teen tv shows with a passion
I don’t think this show is “teen tv.”
This show isn’t teen tv you’ve just got an agenda
I mean a teen drama show, like euphoria and all that, there just so overplayed and stupid
rationalization of a comic made by a bigot lmao
read something else then champ
At least you earned your username