Tyndale Theological Seminary
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- Опубліковано 8 гру 2015
- Tyndale Theological Seminary is an interdenominational, evangelical seminary that prepares students for ministries as pastors, teachers, missionaries, church planters and denominational leaders around the world. The seminary is a graduate, professional school offering accredited Masters programs in the English language. Tyndale is located only minutes from the center of Amsterdam, the Netherlands. The seminary’s location provides a wonderful venue for Tyndale’s international student body. Tyndale is unique in that the school was not only founded by missionaries, but continues to be run by missionary faculty and staff. All residential faculty-from the newest assistant professor to the president-are missionaries supported by individuals, families and churches through various mission agencies.
I'm pleased Rev. Arnold G
I'm pleased Rev. Arnold G. Fruchtenbaum teaching is there.
Great video as usual!
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I listened to this video, and understand the focus on reading the bible in Greek and Hebrew.
My question is HOW do you know that all 27 books of the New Testament are theopneustos, and that no books have been left out that are?
" The books were already there and used by the church before any council. "
Juha,
Well yes and no. The there was no universal agreement on the canon of the NT until the late 4th century. Some believed that 2 John, 3 John, Hebrews and Revelation were not scripture. Others believed that the Epistle of Barnabas, the Shepherd of Hermas was etc.
"but I would like to argue, that the Holy Spirit led the holy church to recognize the canon. "
100% Agree.
So was the Church, those early Christians, infallible in their discernment and affirmation that the NT Canon was 27 books, no more, not less? Yes ... .No ?
Keep in mind that there were over 300+ early Christian writings. And yes, fallible men can only be led to infallible truth if guided by the Holy Spirit. It's Christ's words in action: that he would send the paraclete, to guide His Church to all truth.
Note: it's always good to define terms: Infallible = incapable of error.
" There is this huge historic debate between Roman Catholics and the Orthodox on the one hand and the Protestants of many sorts on the other over the issue concerning the relation between the Scriptures and the tradition."
I would note that ALL the above affirm 27 books of the NT. That's why I start here.... always want to start where we agree.
God bless.
" I think it is still an overstatement to say that there were over 300+ early Christian writings in the same context when we speak about the canonization of the New Testament. There were only few books that were debated."
Juha. Well yes and no. Someone decided those 300+ text weren't all scripture. The NT canon wasn't settled until the late 4th c. Your statement above is testimony to Sacred Tradition at work.
"The Scripture alone is never alone."
Catholic's agree here too. Scripture itself says that we are to hold fast, to both what is spoken and written.
"I believe it would be good for us to study the church fathers"
That is great. Here's a terrific read from an Anglican Cardinal who did the same.
An Essay On Development Of Christian Doctrine by John Henry Newman
"Although we believe that the Bible is the most important source for Christian theology, it is not the only source."
What does the bible itself teach is the pillar and bulwark of the Truth? (1 Tim 3:15)
Where is the manifold wisdom of God known? (Eph 3:10)
Juha, please answer the question previously posted:
Was the Church, those early Christians, infallible in their discernment and affirmation that the NT Canon was 27 books, no more, not less? Yes ... .No ?
To define terms: infallible means incapable of error.
Catholic's say YES. It's Christ's promise to lead his Church to all truth. He did so using the agency of men to affirm the canon. Fallible men, led to infallible truth.
God Bless Juha.
"I believe that the church recognized the canon and made the right decision. "
Hi Juha,
So you believe that the Church was infallible in its affirmation that the NT canon is 27 books, no more, no less?
Yes?
Blessings your way :)
"Why is it so important for you that I answer only "yes" or "no"? "
From a theological standpoint Juha, both answers have profound implications. It's a question that deserves a clear answer, especially if one believes in bible primacy. Perhaps you've never thought of the question?
Based on what you've said, I believe your answer is yes. There is no other answer if you believe that those early Christians made the "right decision." If the answer is "no" , then you have to believe it's possible that they made the wrong decision.
I'd love to continue the dialogue.
Blessings!
"the Evangelical Lutheran Church of Finland (I belong today in the Evangelical Free Church of Finland), had a good dialogue with the Roman Catholic Church. They made a public declaration together about the doctrine of justification by faith. I think it was a good document"
Interesting this! I'm somewhat familiar with the Joint Declaration. Blessed those Lutherans who agree!
I happen to know those Lutherans pretty well, at least the USA ones.
A motley crew are they.