We used florescent light tubes to peak tune the final radio frequency output tube on a commercial AM radio station back in the 1980s. The brighter the flash, the more signal was being delivered to our antenna.
We had a floursecent tube at the top of our transmitter tower 40 meters high at the boys scouts when a jota jamboree on the air was held to warm us not to climb the tower... We where only allowed to sit in a net several meters above ground in the tower made of wooden beams... The warning was quite visible contact even with Australia from the Netherlands under the right atmosphere conditions.. professional radia ham people who for once could go all out in power since at jota time no limits seemed to be there as long as you knew what you where doing...
We did that in the 80's when us teens all had cb radios in our cars...the guys who had "boosted" radios could light them up pretty bright by the antenna on the trunk
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A saw a group of radio engineers do a rough tune on a 5 tower transmitter site that phased the towers where 1 or 2 would be hot and 3 or 4 would be grounded to make the tower array directional.. They setup a whole bunch of tubes hanging from tall wooden poles about 100 feet away from the towers in a circle around them.. Then by switching which towers were hot and which were grounded you could easily see that some tubes were bright and others were dim.. A few days later we took a truck with an extendable antenna and a field strength meter and drove to somewhere around 50 places on the map taking readings day and night when they had the antennas setup different ways.. The matching coils on those AM stations that I saw attached to a whole row of amplifier cabinets were huge and made out of copper tubing that was 1/2 inch to 1 inch diameter and 4 foot across.. This was very different compared to the VHF FM transmitters that were just a couple small rack mount exciters connected to one 6 foot tall amp cabinet..
Back in the 80's we ran a permanent electric fence around a large farm I was working for. Part of that fence ran under some large power lines coming from a power plant and once that fence was insulated it was hot without being connected to a charger.
@@chadw100 Yes, electric fences are by definition insulated at each post. In this case they were fiberglass posts 5 ft high with 6 strands of wire as opposed to more common "temporary" electric fences that are 2-3ft high with steel posts, plastic insulators and one or two wires.
I want to clarify somethi g i see in a lot of the comments. Its not power that is just seeping away lost forever. When you introduce an inductive circuit next to another it creates a back emf and actually opposes the flow of current in the power line, thereby causing resistance and effectively taking power. Without the light bulb in place, the emf from the power line has no opposition and therefore doesnt see a resistance on the line.
EVERY ferrous object within range of the magnetic lines of flux creates an inductive load...EVERY ferrous object! Shed, fence, windmill, automobiles, are just a few. Not to mention if any of those objects are touching ground the object magnetized is discharging continuously to ground. I demonstrated this to my students on numerous occasions using a compass near high current load. The needle...pointed the load field. After a few moments the only ferrous part of the compass (which allows one end of the needle to point North) effectively became magnetized. The needle then pointed South, and remained this way for a few days.
Very interesting I was just about to ask the same thing. Would diamagnetic metals exhibit any load on the system? Say silver, it conducts electricity so supposedly the field would have some interaction with it no? I want to better understand relationship between induction and magnetism/circutry
@@Benpriebe314 current flow is the electrons moving along the conductor, outer shell of the atom to outer shell of another atom. Copper for example has one electron in it's outer shell, a good conductor, because it can move easily. Resistance is the materials opposition to that current flow. Inductance is the opposition to current flow as a result of impact on that magnetic field generated around that conductor during current flow. AC, the magnetic field collapses and expands each time the current changes direction. That impedes the change in direction of the electrons in the conductor. When ferrous material is near enough to the magnetic field, that metal becomes magnetized itself, generating it's own lines of Flux, magnetic field. This creates an added impedence to the current flow, making it harder to collapse the magnetic field each time electrons change direction. Analogy I used in class was an automobile. I start pushing it one way, voltage after a moment the car starts moving, electrons. Since our power here is 60hertz, the current changes direction 120 times a second. When I stop pushing, I run around and push from the opposite direction. Which way is the car still moving? After a moment, the car stops and starts moving the opposite direction. Resistance and inductance affects how fast the change in electron flow occurs. The lag in the change can be referred to as power factor. Another discussion, so much for the electrical theory rambling.
When I was in the Navy back in the 70’s we used to strap fluorescent tubes near high powered radio sets when tuning up. The flickering lamp was a good indication we were transmitting. Also I rembet bring on a ship within 10 miles if a very high powered VLF transmitter and all the fluorescent lamps that were off would flash on and off.
Have a LED shop light light that never dims, think that might be the reason.
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My brother lived in Waianae not too far from the huge Navy ammo dump and the ULF transmitter site and he used to talk about the florescent lights flickering and some radio and TV reception problems when they were transmitting..
I'd parked my car under some very high voltage transmission lines in California right where the lines sagged. It was next to a creek running from a hot spring. I had gotten out of the water and sat on a small aluminum beach chair in the dirt next to my car. I touched my car and felt a pretty good voltage. Definitely made me pull back. It would have been interesting to measure the voltage with a meter but I didn't have one. The car was acting as part of a capacitor coupling through the air. There was a radio station in Hampton Virginia the early 80's called WPEX that put up fluorescent tubes on the tower so that it spelled out "X 15". It looked cool at night from Rt. 64. with the bulbs lit up from the RF of the antenna.
a CB Radio properly tuned can illuminate a Fluorescent tube pretty well, i've done it and scared a friend of mine half to death with the demo, with a Linear amp the light was full brightness end to end and plenty of light to read by, and we did something similar when i was in Vo-Tech, we had some high-tension lines that ran across the campus, our instructor had a PVC Pipe with a fitting that was the right size to clip a Flouro tube into and hold it up in the air, with the other end going to the ground with just a tent stake on the end of it, it was i want to say a 10 or 12 foot chunk of Schedule 40 PVC and that tube lit up, not super bright, but bright enough you could see in the daylight, so it is doable, and its crazy what kind of power radiates as RF from things we use day-to-day, also i mentioned the CB Radio/base station with the Fluro tube, you can do the same thing by standing near an AM Transmitting station, or a SW station, that'll light a tube pretty good from not that far away (~100yds)
I used to run a small tube on my antenna with a linear "heater" and it lit easily although it screwed up my SWR. I did hear tell of a guy who had a far bigger amp who lit a McDonalds sign accidently - his alternator was apparently NOT happy about the current draw! I also had an issue with an intercom system at a bank keying up to talk to someone while in line in my car - the teller was NOT pleased at the noise on her end 😲
Thirty years ago I drove a clean garbage truck picking up recyclable cardboard. I was loading cardboard into my truck from a dumpster, which was positioned under large electrical wires. I mean LARGE. As I was doing this, my upper arm touched the dumpster, and I received a mild continuous shock. I can't imagine what that might do to people who actually live in houses situated under those wires.
in the early 80s a family friend who lived near the power plant and its transmission lines showed us how the fluorescent tube lit up just holding it in the air near the lines.. as kids we were amazed as if we were seeing magic! it always stuck in the back of my mind as a reminder that there are things around us that affect us that we can't see.. it was a powerful and inspiring lesson
I might suggest, as a test, is to see how many meters of "fence" cable it takes to sufficiently test your lamps brightness,instead of the aluminum antenna.(10, 20, 30 meters) Also there are two contact points on each end of the lamps. Did you use antenna and ground on the same end when you tested them? Would a capacitor keep the lamps from flickering? It sounds as if you can do several experiments if you want! It is a unique lab you have!
My former work I worked at for 20 years had high voltage lines running down the main street in front of the business and I always heard them buzzing when it was wet or icy out
My father had a horse farm with electric fences running under 250K voltage lines. The fence charger would burn out if we tried to hook one up. The induced voltage from the powerlines was enough to function as a stigmatizing deterrent but you could tell that it had higher joules. The current took the better part of a minute to build back up after you touched it. What I did for an experiment was to lower the volts with a transformer, because it was alternating current after all. What I wish I had progressed to was the use of a diode rectifier like you have there. Then, one of those variable-input buck transformers that takes in 50 to 13 volts DC and puts out a consistent 12 volts DC. Then, I could have had one of those 12-volt supercapacitor banks like some UA-camrs have used in place of a car battery. Then you have some nice standby power and can charge a battery also. What is interesting about this technical challenge is that if the Earth's magnetic field goes away for 3,000 years like it is said to be able to do, then solar and cosmic electromagnetism will do this to the entire sky. It would be an "EMP disaster," but the effect would be more sustained and consistent. Therefore, any suspended wire would become a free energy collector and flourescent tubes would become the light bulbs of choice. The electrical system would have to be re-tooled, obviously.
Perhaps that is how the grid systems worked before, and at some point "they" created the magnetic field we see today. Could some massive hidden geothermal power plants placed at key points across the earth generate our current magnetic field? IF this was done in theory, it may explain the star fort setups we see across the world, the domes and cathedrals we see across the world everywhere that could have been actually power plants harvesting energy from the air before the change in the magnetic field. I know that sounds insane, but the more u look into it, the more you wonder
After I sea kayaked off Alamitos Bay in Southern California I often went shopping at the Hawthorne Costco. Right behind the store are some high tension wires. I'd just wear my rubber wet suit, and rubber water shoes. I was a little damp, but not dripping. Pushing the shopping cart around the store about once every minute I get a real zap from the cart. A bit more than static electricity, but not dangerous.
in 1969..in North Thailand..I worked near the CommSEC radar domes..We could carry 4 foot florescent bulbs within 500 yards of the domes and they would light up brightly..I wonder what working there 12 hours a day did to my health?
I knew of a guy that used florescent lighting in all but the bedrooms of the house. He lived very close to an AM radio station. He used his TV antenna tower for the pickup point. It was very strange to see glowing tubes simply taped to the ceiling.
I stopped under some very large ones that led to Los Angeles, and you could get about 1/2 inch of spark to jump between your fingers and the car body. It was also loud enough to hear the sound from the spark, even next to a busy road. It was strong enough that I worried about having electronics out of the car.
Was this in the afternoon during a heatwave by any chance? With the whole LA Basin running air conditioning, I would think power flows would be at near maximum levels.
Merely carrying around a fluorescent tube inside a darkened house when the humidity is low, such as during cold weather, will produce visible flashes of light due to small electrical discharges you don't even feel.
...good that you brought awareness of the size of the flux that is around these transmission lines, you wouldn't want to be in a building 24/7 anywhere near these high voltage lines. Having that powerfull amount of magnetic field permeating your body all day long is something i would avoid which is why i refused getting a linemans ticket and just stayed with the electrician endorsement.
Did this experiment myself when I was a kid. I found that using telephone wire wound around the tube caused it to glow very brightly. Understanding the physics behind why they did that took me many years to learn. It is the electro-magnetic field that was causing this effect. Another experiment is a fluorescent tube taped to a CB or ham radio antenna and transmitting on the radio. The tube would glow faintly and glow bright when whistling into the mike. In this case it was Radio Frequency (RF) a different form of EMF causing the particles in the tube to be excited and give off photons.
I used to park my Astro van underneath a 500 kV line at work. On damp days, when I reached for the door handle, I could feel a voltage from the handle through my boots. The roof of the van was a sizable capacitor plate insulated from ground. I often thought about connecting a multi meter to the handle and ground to see what the voltage was, but I never did.
I work for a power utility and work with high voltages. Lines and substations. Those weird looking places that look like space ports. There is a reason we build fences around them and put up those danger signs. Please be cautious, these lines and installations transfer and control extreme amounts of energy. Be very cautious around facilities high voltage or any voltage if your not fully knowledgably and trained.
I’m amazed by substations. Over time I’ve figured out the switches… Just seeing how the lines attach to the insulators on the poles is amazing. I figure most are completely clueless to all the hardware required to power that TV.
Yes, the high-voltage power lines can be very dangerous. I recall an incident in December 2007 in East Palo Alto, California. A 23-year-old man was electrocuted while hanging Christmas tree lights in a 60+ feet tall redwood tree at an apartment complex. Here is the gruesome story, copied as reported by FOX News at that time: -------------------------- EAST PALO ALTO, Calif. - A man decorating a tree outside an apartment complex was electrocuted when a string of Christmas lights touched a high-voltage power line, authorities said. The 23-year-old man, who had climbed about 60 feet up a redwood tree in East Palo Alto, was trying to throw the string of lights onto hard-to-reach branches when he was killed instantly Saturday, according to Menlo Park Fire Protection District Chief Harold Schapelhouman. Shortly after a neighbor reported the incident around 12:20 p.m., fire crews arrived on the scene and found the man's body attached the tree with smoke rising from his feet, officials said. The body hung for more than an hour as hundreds of neighbors watched. Firefighters had to wait for utility crews to shut down power lines that supply electricity to thousands of nearby homes and businesses. Firefighters brought the man's body down from the tree after the power was turned off, Schapelhouman said. The victim, whose name was not being released until his family was notified, worked for Page Mill Properties, which owns apartment buildings in the area, Schapelhouman said. "Our heart goes out to this young man and his family," Schapelhouman said. "He was trying to improve things a little bit for Christmas and he made a small miscalculation and it cost him his life."
Years ago I attended an electronics trade school, I remember the instructor pointing out the RF around power lines. He said you could actually take coils of wire and situate it under a power line, and you can/will produce electricity. You could even power your house just from what is being radiated into the air from the power line. BUT the electric company WOULD fine you for doing it, they consider it "stealing".
@@joewoodchuck3824 My apologies, you are correct, I said RF when I meant that it creates a magnetic field around the wires that can be picked up by another copper coil. Can see where my post was confusing, thank you for the correction.
I remember seeing a tv reporter hold up a tube in each hand under a large set of power lines in daylight and you could see them glowing. That was in the ‘80s.
Run a long insulated wire a few feet off the ground and parallel to the power lines to act as the generator antenna and connect the wire to one end of the fluorescent tube and the ground wire to the other end of the tube. I think you will have the potential to get more induction with a horizontal antenna than a vertical one. You could try this set up with your rectifier circuit and check out the DC output. I would think that the length of the antenna will affect the amount of electricity inducted into the wire and that a longer antenna has more output potential than a short one and that horizontal orientation would be better than vertical. I could be out in left field on my suggestions, it's Just a thought
Great video! Make a rectifier to a usb 12v charger with a readout of current draw. Please make disclosure of your videos of explaining the hazards of Electrocution etc.
We must remember in normal use a tube has a "Starter" unit without which it will not light properly! Not being an electrician I don't know but maybe there is a way to wire one in to your experiments and see what happens? Very interesting!!
High volt lines in Brownfield Texas with maybe 15 houses underneath it. Lines like yours between Seagraves and Wellman Texas with about 10 houses under neath it.
When I was but a lad of nineteen I use to hang around a friend that lived on a farm (yeah, he had a cute sister) where a sixteen line high voltage power line on really high metal poles that ran through the property. My friends father use to plant potatoes under that power line and often when he ran his tractor to plow before planting the hair on the back of his head use to stand up. My friend and I assumed it was the magnetic field from the overhead wires. We had a big coil of magnet wire connected to an analog meter and when we waived the wire the meter pointer jumped. Never thought of using a bridge rectifier. A guy up the street built a house under the power line where it crossed the road and his kitchen lights use to glow dimly without being turned on. He got the Cancer at a very young age so the magnetic fields probably did not do him any good. Based on this we had some floresent tubes and when in the potato field, when we raised them in the air they brightly lit. Wish I kept those pictures.
Your experiments with the power lines are really interesting. There are tiny neon panel lights that run at high voltage and need very little power. Can you make an illuminated fence? How close together along the fence can you put the neons and still have them light?
As a kid I had florescent desk light that I'd occasionally remove tube and play with in total darkness, it would glow between my hands. (no big power lines around)
I did this back in 1983 in England. Not only did it glow, the roof of my car started to 'tingly' vibrate. It's called 'electrovibration' and is caused by it not being grounded. I didn't hang around.
I remember an article in National Geographic maybe from the late 70s. There was a picture of a man holding a fluorescent tube up under high power lines and it was lit up.
If I were living there, I would make a huge coil with thick wire (maybe AWG 00) and make it resonant to 60Hz. If I could, I would attach some kind of iron core for better performance, though it must be taken into account for the resonance calculation of the coil. The thing would be placed above ground (maybe in a large wooden table) and be put directly under the power lines at their lower altitude in the property. Even when it would be a pricy setup because of the wire, I would have "free" energy, or better said, "pirated" energy as long as transmission lines are energized. In this case, as if it was a transformer, the higher the load in the lines (users in the city with many appliances turned on), the higher the current induced in my coil as a secondary. Since this gives no control over voltage, I would rectify it and regulate it to charge batteries for an inverter.
I never say it but years ago when the Coast Guard maintained the LORAN transmitters it was said that a florescent tube would light standing at the tower.
You should do an experiment set those up in your yard during a thunderstorm and see which ones light up just before lightning. I wonder what kind of experiment that would pan out to? I would love to see the results.
It would be cool to set a string of LEDs along the length of the power line. I'm not sure exactly what would be the best way to wire it... You might be able to visually observe the grids power consumption based on the brightness of the LEDs
It might also be interesting to set up and antenna or your long fence line whatever and hook it up to an oscilloscope and an amp rope. It would be kind of cool to monitor the voltage, frequencies, amperage at different times of the day.
if you are illuminating a fluorescent bulb at all in that situation it is wireless power. tesla did that in front of some spectators apparently way bright from 10 ft away, but he figured out other things involved in its operation and use of components in a very specific manner that is a mystery to us.
Would be interesting to see if the Fluorescent Tube would light up and shine brightly if you connected a complete Fluorescent Tube system up with Ballast and Starter, then connect that long wire that's parallel to the power lines to one side of the AC in of the ballast and the other of the AC of the Fluorescent Tube system to an earth spike ? Or even just connecting a Fluorescent tube Starter up to one pin on either side of the Fluorescent Tube to see if that starts the Fluorescent Tube to then shine continuously bright :)
In a Navy we used to tape for us and bulbs on broomsticks and stick them in front of our microwave illuminator you can see where the beam is lights up that area The rest is not lit
I have a friend who, while in the Navy, had an acquaintance who claimed that he and some of his friends would take fluorescent tubes to high voltage power lines and launch the tubes up at the power lines at their lowest points between the transmission towers. This man claimed to my friend that the fluorescent tubes would light up very brightly as they came very close to the wires. The man also claimed that if the fluorescent tubes actually contacted the wires, the tubes would spin around the wires for a few seconds and then explode from the high voltage. My friend and I have serious doubts about the veracity of this person's claims, but have both wondered what would happen if you did do what this man claimed and flung fluorescent tubes at high voltage wires. Neither of us are actually willing to put this to the test.
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Back in the 1970's I worked doing maintenance and mowing the fields around the WWWE 1100 transmitter site southwest of Cleveland Ohio while I was in junior and senior high school.. To walk around outside at night when the transmitter was in low power 4.5kw I would take a 4 foot florescent tube and hold it up in the air until it lit up then you could carry it around like a huge lantern.. You could set one end on the ground and it would keep glowing but you never wanted to have the electrode make contact with your hand or to the ground because you would get a nice zinger of an RF shock or it would draw an arc and burn out the tube just before it touched a grounded surface if it was operating at the daytime power of 50kw.. I don't remember what the maximum power that transmitter could do but it was one of the biggest in the area if not the country.. It used to be a civil defense EBS site so every once in a while they would test it at above licensed power and you could hear the radio station sound coming out of the duct work of the building and the hair on your body would start to tingle and stand up.. Pretty sure that wasn't healthy but when you're a teenager you don't think about stuff like that..
I'm wondering how much more illumination you'd get by taping it to a 20 foot piece of thin wall tubing and positioning it as close to the power line as possible.
Depending on the voltage in the lines, a safe distance is 10 to 45 feet. If you get too close it will arc. When it does...... you won't feel a thing and they might not recognize your smoldering body. Pretty dangerous stuff.
Remember going to a L RAN station and the guys would take a Florencent tube light and hold it next to a power line in some kind of pipe and it would light up so bright.
How about taking a multi meter out with you next time so that you can actually measure voltage and/or amperage between your ground and your antenna. This would give an idea about how usable or storable the field created by the H/T wires actually is in different conditions.
On the police department, i would hold a 4 foot tube over the cruiser and when i keyed the radio mike the tube would light up. There were no connections to the cruiser, antenna nor anything except my bare hand. Distance was about a foot above the roof.
The sizzling is corona discharge. The 230 kV is enough to pull air molecules apart and they become ions. And ions can provide a conductive path and bleed a little bit of power off of the 230 kV lines. Th power company works hard to remove sharp points and edges on their insulator connections (reducing 1/r^2) to reduce corona as much as possible. The moisture in the air or frost increases the small constant loss, and produces the sounds you hear.
Try this. Leave your ground rod in and them put another one 90 degs from it about 100 yards away. Measure the voltage between them. Its not much but it will run your driveway or sidewalk lights 24 hours a day.
The sizzling is corona effect. The air acts as an insulator between the lines and the ground {earth}. With moisture added and temperature effect the insulating effect of the air is reduced close to the conductor (wire). The noise you hear is the ionizing of the air. The air molecules are being polarized and beginning to conduct electrons dissipating energy into the surrounding air. How a radio/television transmitter works.
on a larger scale, the sun's high radiation energy hits earth (like the energy from the transmission lines) and lights up our magnetic forces (auroras). When they are powerful enough, the sun's energy hits long power lines and they, in turn, generate serious power surges. Fun stuff, that invisible force.
The florescent bulbs might light better in warmer weather such as 70 degrees ir so as they dont like to light when cold. You might notice this ehen replacing bulbs that were stored in a cool area.
3 ways to grab power leakage. Capacitive, just a long plate of copper insulated from ground, inductive, a bunch of rebar or similar wrapped with copper wire, or ion capture, an array of insulated spikes. The first gives the highest voltage. The second gives the most current. The third is highly dependant on weather.
I know you showed all the sample lights at beginning of video, but if you lit it up with a flashlight while you were in the dark to show no wires it would have helped "illuminate authenticity"
Yep, I could have brought a flash light with, but didn't think of it. So many have done this already, there's really no reason to think it's fake. I wanted to verify if it would work under these lines.
You should consider any magnetic flux past that 62 foot easement line Yours ! And if they say anything! Bring suite against the power companies for, dangerous trespass on your property !
There's an Aluminium smelter near my home town that can use up to 13% of the nations power supply. Fluoro tubes run brightly with no wiring - a dropped nail will stand straight upright. Ordinary physics of daily life end at the gate lol
I can see a spark with my ham radio antenna coming off the center connector to ground. I had to bring the 2 closer like a sparkplug. nowhere near a power line. Just static in the air.
It seems that ancient buildings also had mercury antennas installed in the top space. There is iron in the marble of the building, and it goes to the condenser in the pond. It was connected.
We used florescent light tubes to peak tune the final radio frequency output tube on a commercial AM radio station back in the 1980s. The brighter the flash, the more signal was being delivered to our antenna.
We had a floursecent tube at the top of our transmitter tower 40 meters high at the boys scouts when a jota jamboree on the air was held to warm us not to climb the tower... We where only allowed to sit in a net several meters above ground in the tower made of wooden beams... The warning was quite visible contact even with Australia from the Netherlands under the right atmosphere conditions.. professional radia ham people who for once could go all out in power since at jota time no limits seemed to be there as long as you knew what you where doing...
We did that in the 80's when us teens all had cb radios in our cars...the guys who had "boosted" radios could light them up pretty bright by the antenna on the trunk
A saw a group of radio engineers do a rough tune on a 5 tower transmitter site that phased the towers where 1 or 2 would be hot and 3 or 4 would be grounded to make the tower array directional.. They setup a whole bunch of tubes hanging from tall wooden poles about 100 feet away from the towers in a circle around them.. Then by switching which towers were hot and which were grounded you could easily see that some tubes were bright and others were dim.. A few days later we took a truck with an extendable antenna and a field strength meter and drove to somewhere around 50 places on the map taking readings day and night when they had the antennas setup different ways.. The matching coils on those AM stations that I saw attached to a whole row of amplifier cabinets were huge and made out of copper tubing that was 1/2 inch to 1 inch diameter and 4 foot across.. This was very different compared to the VHF FM transmitters that were just a couple small rack mount exciters connected to one 6 foot tall amp cabinet..
Back in the 80's we ran a permanent electric fence around a large farm I was working for. Part of that fence ran under some large power lines coming from a power plant and once that fence was insulated it was hot without being connected to a charger.
I'm guessing you mean insulated at every post going into the ground, so the current wouldn't be sent to the ground at every post.
@@chadw100 Yes, electric fences are by definition insulated at each post. In this case they were fiberglass posts 5 ft high with 6 strands of wire as opposed to more common "temporary" electric fences that are 2-3ft high with steel posts, plastic insulators and one or two wires.
I want to clarify somethi g i see in a lot of the comments. Its not power that is just seeping away lost forever. When you introduce an inductive circuit next to another it creates a back emf and actually opposes the flow of current in the power line, thereby causing resistance and effectively taking power. Without the light bulb in place, the emf from the power line has no opposition and therefore doesnt see a resistance on the line.
EVERY ferrous object within range of the magnetic lines of flux creates an inductive load...EVERY ferrous object! Shed, fence, windmill, automobiles, are just a few. Not to mention if any of those objects are touching ground the object magnetized is discharging continuously to ground. I demonstrated this to my students on numerous occasions using a compass near high current load. The needle...pointed the load field. After a few moments the only ferrous part of the compass (which allows one end of the needle to point North) effectively became magnetized. The needle then pointed South, and remained this way for a few days.
Very interesting I was just about to ask the same thing.
Would diamagnetic metals exhibit any load on the system? Say silver, it conducts electricity so supposedly the field would have some interaction with it no? I want to better understand relationship between induction and magnetism/circutry
@@Benpriebe314 silver is non-ferrous along with several other metals so they offer no inductive impededence to current flow.
@@Benpriebe314 current flow is the electrons moving along the conductor, outer shell of the atom to outer shell of another atom. Copper for example has one electron in it's outer shell, a good conductor, because it can move easily. Resistance is the materials opposition to that current flow. Inductance is the opposition to current flow as a result of impact on that magnetic field generated around that conductor during current flow. AC, the magnetic field collapses and expands each time the current changes direction. That impedes the change in direction of the electrons in the conductor. When ferrous material is near enough to the magnetic field, that metal becomes magnetized itself, generating it's own lines of Flux, magnetic field. This creates an added impedence to the current flow, making it harder to collapse the magnetic field each time electrons change direction. Analogy I used in class was an automobile. I start pushing it one way, voltage after a moment the car starts moving, electrons. Since our power here is 60hertz, the current changes direction 120 times a second. When I stop pushing, I run around and push from the opposite direction. Which way is the car still moving? After a moment, the car stops and starts moving the opposite direction. Resistance and inductance affects how fast the change in electron flow occurs. The lag in the change can be referred to as power factor. Another discussion, so much for the electrical theory rambling.
And lenzes law
When I was in the Navy back in the 70’s we used to strap fluorescent tubes near high powered radio sets when tuning up. The flickering lamp was a good indication we were transmitting. Also I rembet bring on a ship within 10 miles if a very high powered VLF transmitter and all the fluorescent lamps that were off would flash on and off.
Have a LED shop light light that never dims, think that might be the reason.
My brother lived in Waianae not too far from the huge Navy ammo dump and the ULF transmitter site and he used to talk about the florescent lights flickering and some radio and TV reception problems when they were transmitting..
I'd parked my car under some very high voltage transmission lines in California right where the lines sagged. It was next to a creek running from a hot spring. I had gotten out of the water and sat on a small aluminum beach chair in the dirt next to my car. I touched my car and felt a pretty good voltage. Definitely made me pull back. It would have been interesting to measure the voltage with a meter but I didn't have one. The car was acting as part of a capacitor coupling through the air.
There was a radio station in Hampton Virginia the early 80's called WPEX that put up fluorescent tubes on the tower so that it spelled out "X 15". It looked cool at night from Rt. 64. with the bulbs lit up from the RF of the antenna.
Wireless charging for electric cars. Lol
a CB Radio properly tuned can illuminate a Fluorescent tube pretty well, i've done it and scared a friend of mine half to death with the demo, with a Linear amp the light was full brightness end to end and plenty of light to read by, and we did something similar when i was in Vo-Tech, we had some high-tension lines that ran across the campus, our instructor had a PVC Pipe with a fitting that was the right size to clip a Flouro tube into and hold it up in the air, with the other end going to the ground with just a tent stake on the end of it, it was i want to say a 10 or 12 foot chunk of Schedule 40 PVC and that tube lit up, not super bright, but bright enough you could see in the daylight, so it is doable, and its crazy what kind of power radiates as RF from things we use day-to-day, also i mentioned the CB Radio/base station with the Fluro tube, you can do the same thing by standing near an AM Transmitting station, or a SW station, that'll light a tube pretty good from not that far away (~100yds)
I used to run a small tube on my antenna with a linear "heater" and it lit easily although it screwed up my SWR. I did hear tell of a guy who had a far bigger amp who lit a McDonalds sign accidently - his alternator was apparently NOT happy about the current draw! I also had an issue with an intercom system at a bank keying up to talk to someone while in line in my car - the teller was NOT pleased at the noise on her end 😲
Thirty years ago I drove a clean garbage truck picking up recyclable cardboard. I was loading cardboard into my truck from a dumpster, which was positioned under large electrical wires. I mean LARGE. As I was doing this, my upper arm touched the dumpster, and I received a mild continuous shock. I can't imagine what that might do to people who actually live in houses situated under those wires.
in the early 80s a family friend who lived near the power plant and its transmission lines showed us how the fluorescent tube lit up just holding it in the air near the lines.. as kids we were amazed as if we were seeing magic! it always stuck in the back of my mind as a reminder that there are things around us that affect us that we can't see.. it was a powerful and inspiring lesson
I might suggest, as a test, is to see how many meters of "fence" cable it takes to sufficiently test your lamps brightness,instead of the aluminum antenna.(10, 20, 30 meters) Also there are two contact points on each end of the lamps. Did you use antenna and ground on the same end when you tested them? Would a capacitor keep the lamps from flickering? It sounds as if you can do several experiments if you want! It is a unique lab you have!
Great stories from the commenters and electricians. Hope you keep up your experiments.
My former work I worked at for 20 years had high voltage lines running down the main street in front of the business and I always heard them buzzing when it was wet or icy out
We did it as kids with 8 foot tubes. They really lit up on high humidity days.
My father had a horse farm with electric fences running under 250K voltage lines. The fence charger would burn out if we tried to hook one up. The induced voltage from the powerlines was enough to function as a stigmatizing deterrent but you could tell that it had higher joules. The current took the better part of a minute to build back up after you touched it. What I did for an experiment was to lower the volts with a transformer, because it was alternating current after all. What I wish I had progressed to was the use of a diode rectifier like you have there. Then, one of those variable-input buck transformers that takes in 50 to 13 volts DC and puts out a consistent 12 volts DC. Then, I could have had one of those 12-volt supercapacitor banks like some UA-camrs have used in place of a car battery. Then you have some nice standby power and can charge a battery also. What is interesting about this technical challenge is that if the Earth's magnetic field goes away for 3,000 years like it is said to be able to do, then solar and cosmic electromagnetism will do this to the entire sky. It would be an "EMP disaster," but the effect would be more sustained and consistent. Therefore, any suspended wire would become a free energy collector and flourescent tubes would become the light bulbs of choice. The electrical system would have to be re-tooled, obviously.
Perhaps that is how the grid systems worked before, and at some point "they" created the magnetic field we see today. Could some massive hidden geothermal power plants placed at key points across the earth generate our current magnetic field? IF this was done in theory, it may explain the star fort setups we see across the world, the domes and cathedrals we see across the world everywhere that could have been actually power plants harvesting energy from the air before the change in the magnetic field. I know that sounds insane, but the more u look into it, the more you wonder
@@chadw100 sounds insane because it is
After I sea kayaked off Alamitos Bay in Southern California I often went shopping at the Hawthorne Costco. Right behind the store are some high tension wires. I'd just wear my rubber wet suit, and rubber water shoes. I was a little damp, but not dripping. Pushing the shopping cart around the store about once every minute I get a real zap from the cart. A bit more than static electricity, but not dangerous.
in 1969..in North Thailand..I worked near the CommSEC radar domes..We could carry 4 foot florescent bulbs within 500 yards of the domes and they would light up brightly..I wonder what working there 12 hours a day did to my health?
I knew of a guy that used florescent lighting in all but the bedrooms of the house.
He lived very close to an AM radio station.
He used his TV antenna tower for the pickup point.
It was very strange to see glowing tubes simply taped to the ceiling.
I believe that! Thanks for the story.
I stopped under some very large ones that led to Los Angeles, and you could get about 1/2 inch of spark to jump between your fingers and the car body. It was also loud enough to hear the sound from the spark, even next to a busy road.
It was strong enough that I worried about having electronics out of the car.
Interesting!
Was this in the afternoon during a heatwave by any chance? With the whole LA Basin running air conditioning, I would think power flows would be at near maximum levels.
Merely carrying around a fluorescent tube inside a darkened house when the humidity is low, such as during cold weather, will produce visible flashes of light due to small electrical discharges you don't even feel.
You could probably do the same thing anywhere to be honest....if not with the same set up...with a slightly higher antenna! Great video man!
Thanks for sharing, Merry X-mas and Happy New Year. Cheers.
Same to you rockcrusher4636!
...good that you brought awareness of the size of the flux that is around these transmission lines, you wouldn't want to be in a building 24/7 anywhere near these high voltage lines. Having that powerfull amount of magnetic field permeating your body all day long is something i would avoid which is why i refused getting a linemans ticket and just stayed with the electrician endorsement.
Did this experiment myself when I was a kid. I found that using telephone wire wound around the tube caused it to glow very brightly. Understanding the physics behind why they did that took me many years to learn. It is the electro-magnetic field that was causing this effect. Another experiment is a fluorescent tube taped to a CB or ham radio antenna and transmitting on the radio. The tube would glow faintly and glow bright when whistling into the mike. In this case it was Radio Frequency (RF) a different form of EMF causing the particles in the tube to be excited and give off photons.
Likely to be capacitive coupling, not magnetic.
The 230Kv is the phase to phase most likely. Phase to Ground is approx. 132Kv .
I used to park my Astro van underneath a 500 kV line at work. On damp days, when I reached for the door handle, I could feel a voltage from the handle through my boots. The roof of the van was a sizable capacitor plate insulated from ground. I often thought about connecting a multi meter to the handle and ground to see what the voltage was, but I never did.
I remember riding my dirt bike under the transmissions lines in a dry summer and feeling the hair on the back of my neck raise up.
Very interesting experiments. I'm inspired to help find the next big bang!
Thanks buddy
I work for a power utility and work with high voltages. Lines and substations. Those weird looking places that look like space ports. There is a reason we build fences around them and put up those danger signs. Please be cautious, these lines and installations transfer and control extreme amounts of energy. Be very cautious around facilities high voltage or any voltage if your not fully knowledgably and trained.
I’m amazed by substations. Over time I’ve figured out the switches… Just seeing how the lines attach to the insulators on the poles is amazing. I figure most are completely clueless to all the hardware required to power that TV.
Yes, the high-voltage power lines can be very dangerous. I recall an incident in December 2007 in East Palo Alto, California. A 23-year-old man was electrocuted while hanging Christmas tree lights in a 60+ feet tall redwood tree at an apartment complex. Here is the gruesome story, copied as reported by FOX News at that time:
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EAST PALO ALTO, Calif. - A man decorating a tree outside an apartment complex was electrocuted when a string of Christmas lights touched a high-voltage power line, authorities said.
The 23-year-old man, who had climbed about 60 feet up a redwood tree in East Palo Alto, was trying to throw the string of lights onto hard-to-reach branches when he was killed instantly Saturday, according to Menlo Park Fire Protection District Chief Harold Schapelhouman.
Shortly after a neighbor reported the incident around 12:20 p.m., fire crews arrived on the scene and found the man's body attached the tree with smoke rising from his feet, officials said.
The body hung for more than an hour as hundreds of neighbors watched. Firefighters had to wait for utility crews to shut down power lines that supply electricity to thousands of nearby homes and businesses.
Firefighters brought the man's body down from the tree after the power was turned off, Schapelhouman said.
The victim, whose name was not being released until his family was notified, worked for Page Mill Properties, which owns apartment buildings in the area, Schapelhouman said.
"Our heart goes out to this young man and his family," Schapelhouman said. "He was trying to improve things a little bit for Christmas and he made a small miscalculation and it cost him his life."
Set up a circuit with a step down transformer and see if you can raise the amps to something useful.
Years ago I attended an electronics trade school, I remember the instructor pointing out the RF around power lines. He said you could actually take coils of wire and situate it under a power line, and you can/will produce electricity. You could even power your house just from what is being radiated into the air from the power line.
BUT the electric company WOULD fine you for doing it, they consider it "stealing".
Power lines do not radiate RF. They radiate 20 Hz (trains), 50 (some other countries outside of North America), and 60 Hz. RF begins at 3 Khz.
@@joewoodchuck3824 My apologies, you are correct, I said RF when I meant that it creates a magnetic field around the wires that can be picked up by another copper coil.
Can see where my post was confusing, thank you for the correction.
Awesome. I've been wanting to do that for about 30 years now. Thanks!
I remember seeing a tv reporter hold up a tube in each hand under a large set of power lines in daylight and you could see them glowing. That was in the ‘80s.
I was just telling my wife, I saw the exact same thing...
@@wientzer so I guess we do remember the ‘80s in spite of all the bad things that we did back then huh? 😂👍
Run a long insulated wire a few feet off the ground and
parallel to the power lines to act as the generator antenna and connect the wire to one end of the fluorescent tube and the ground wire to the other end of the tube. I think you will have the potential to get more induction with a horizontal antenna than a vertical one.
You could try this set up with your rectifier circuit and check out the DC output.
I would think that the length of the antenna will affect the amount of electricity inducted into the wire and that a longer antenna has more output potential than a short one and that horizontal orientation would be better than vertical. I could be out in left field on my suggestions, it's Just a thought
Yes i do agree
Try a 1\4 wavelength wire antenna stretched out under the transmission line. :-D
That would still be a very long wire @ 60 hertz's@@amooser5839
It's capacitive coupling, not induction. Different animals.
Great video!
Make a rectifier to a usb 12v charger with a readout of current draw.
Please make disclosure of your videos of explaining the hazards of Electrocution etc.
We must remember in normal use a tube has a "Starter" unit without which it will not light properly! Not being an electrician I don't know but maybe there is a way to wire one in to your experiments and see what happens? Very interesting!!
High volt lines in Brownfield Texas with maybe 15 houses underneath it. Lines like yours between Seagraves and Wellman Texas with about 10 houses under neath it.
When I was but a lad of nineteen I use to hang around a friend that lived on a farm (yeah, he had a cute sister) where a sixteen line high voltage power line on really high metal poles that ran through the property. My friends father use to plant potatoes under that power line and often when he ran his tractor to plow before planting the hair on the back of his head use to stand up. My friend and I assumed it was the magnetic field from the overhead wires. We had a big coil of magnet wire connected to an analog meter and when we waived the wire the meter pointer jumped. Never thought of using a bridge rectifier. A guy up the street built a house under the power line where it crossed the road and his kitchen lights use to glow dimly without being turned on. He got the Cancer at a very young age so the magnetic fields probably did not do him any good. Based on this we had some floresent tubes and when in the potato field, when we raised them in the air they brightly lit. Wish I kept those pictures.
I would like to have done some experiments with those potatoes!
Your experiments with the power lines are really interesting. There are tiny neon panel lights that run at high voltage and need very little power. Can you make an illuminated fence? How close together along the fence can you put the neons and still have them light?
As a kid I had florescent desk light that I'd occasionally remove tube and play with in total darkness, it would glow between my hands. (no big power lines around)
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I did this back in 1983 in England. Not only did it glow, the roof of my car started to 'tingly' vibrate. It's called 'electrovibration' and is caused by it not being grounded. I didn't hang around.
Higher voltage power lines than these thread through our housing complexes and NOW I see why some of our neighbours complain about head aches!
I just had a thought! What if you build a large transformer and put underneath! Kinda like how the ac to DC transformers work
I remember an article in National Geographic maybe from the late 70s. There was a picture of a man holding a fluorescent tube up under high power lines and it was lit up.
If I were living there, I would make a huge coil with thick wire (maybe AWG 00) and make it resonant to 60Hz. If I could, I would attach some kind of iron core for better performance, though it must be taken into account for the resonance calculation of the coil. The thing would be placed above ground (maybe in a large wooden table) and be put directly under the power lines at their lower altitude in the property.
Even when it would be a pricy setup because of the wire, I would have "free" energy, or better said, "pirated" energy as long as transmission lines are energized. In this case, as if it was a transformer, the higher the load in the lines (users in the city with many appliances turned on), the higher the current induced in my coil as a secondary. Since this gives no control over voltage, I would rectify it and regulate it to charge batteries for an inverter.
I never say it but years ago when the Coast Guard maintained the LORAN transmitters it was said that a florescent tube would light standing at the tower.
You should do an experiment set those up in your yard during a thunderstorm and see which ones light up just before lightning. I wonder what kind of experiment that would pan out to? I would love to see the results.
Put some compisters on the bottom of that tube if the comp charges it should give it enough to power the tube.wireless powered light right?
It would be cool to set a string of LEDs along the length of the power line. I'm not sure exactly what would be the best way to wire it... You might be able to visually observe the grids power consumption based on the brightness of the LEDs
It might also be interesting to set up and antenna or your long fence line whatever and hook it up to an oscilloscope and an amp rope. It would be kind of cool to monitor the voltage, frequencies, amperage at different times of the day.
if you are illuminating a fluorescent bulb at all in that situation it is wireless power.
tesla did that in front of some spectators apparently way bright from 10 ft away, but he figured out other things involved in its operation and use of components in a very specific manner that is a mystery to us.
Are they really flashing or is that a effect caused by the camera? Veryyyy interesting content 😊 thank you
Great video! What about the coil receiver from an inductive tea kettle and then running a LED strip light
Would be interesting to see if the Fluorescent Tube would light up and shine brightly if you connected a complete Fluorescent Tube system up with Ballast and Starter, then connect that long wire that's parallel to the power lines to one side of the AC in of the ballast and the other of the AC of the Fluorescent Tube system to an earth spike ? Or even just connecting a Fluorescent tube Starter up to one pin on either side of the Fluorescent Tube to see if that starts the Fluorescent Tube to then shine continuously bright :)
In a Navy we used to tape for us and bulbs on broomsticks and stick them in front of our microwave illuminator you can see where the beam is lights up that area The rest is not lit
I have a friend who, while in the Navy, had an acquaintance who claimed that he and some of his friends would take fluorescent tubes to high voltage power lines and launch the tubes up at the power lines at their lowest points between the transmission towers. This man claimed to my friend that the fluorescent tubes would light up very brightly as they came very close to the wires. The man also claimed that if the fluorescent tubes actually contacted the wires, the tubes would spin around the wires for a few seconds and then explode from the high voltage. My friend and I have serious doubts about the veracity of this person's claims, but have both wondered what would happen if you did do what this man claimed and flung fluorescent tubes at high voltage wires. Neither of us are actually willing to put this to the test.
Back in the 1970's I worked doing maintenance and mowing the fields around the WWWE 1100 transmitter site southwest of Cleveland Ohio while I was in junior and senior high school.. To walk around outside at night when the transmitter was in low power 4.5kw I would take a 4 foot florescent tube and hold it up in the air until it lit up then you could carry it around like a huge lantern.. You could set one end on the ground and it would keep glowing but you never wanted to have the electrode make contact with your hand or to the ground because you would get a nice zinger of an RF shock or it would draw an arc and burn out the tube just before it touched a grounded surface if it was operating at the daytime power of 50kw.. I don't remember what the maximum power that transmitter could do but it was one of the biggest in the area if not the country.. It used to be a civil defense EBS site so every once in a while they would test it at above licensed power and you could hear the radio station sound coming out of the duct work of the building and the hair on your body would start to tingle and stand up.. Pretty sure that wasn't healthy but when you're a teenager you don't think about stuff like that..
Great story! Thanks for sharing.
Really interesting, thanks for posting 👍
I'm wondering how much more illumination you'd get by taping it to a 20 foot piece of thin wall tubing and positioning it as close to the power line as possible.
No ...................just, no.
Depending on the voltage in the lines, a safe distance is 10 to 45 feet.
If you get too close it will arc.
When it does...... you won't feel a thing and they might not recognize your smoldering body.
Pretty dangerous stuff.
Remember going to a L RAN station and the guys would take a Florencent tube light and hold it next to a power line in some kind of pipe and it would light up so bright.
How about taking a multi meter out with you next time so that you can actually measure voltage and/or amperage between your ground and your antenna. This would give an idea about how usable or storable the field created by the H/T wires actually is in different conditions.
What would wrapping a wire in a spaced coil pattern do?
On the police department, i would hold a 4 foot tube over the cruiser and when i keyed the radio mike the tube would light up.
There were no connections to the cruiser, antenna nor anything except my bare hand. Distance was about a foot above the roof.
The sizzling is corona discharge. The 230 kV is enough to pull air molecules apart and they become ions. And ions can provide a conductive path and bleed a little bit of power off of the 230 kV lines. Th power company works hard to remove sharp points and edges on their insulator connections (reducing 1/r^2) to reduce corona as much as possible. The moisture in the air or frost increases the small constant loss, and produces the sounds you hear.
The corona also eats metal parts nearby.
Try this. Leave your ground rod in and them put another one 90 degs from it about 100 yards away. Measure the voltage between them. Its not much but it will run your driveway or sidewalk lights 24 hours a day.
On a wet misty day if you walk under those lines you can feel your skin crawl.
My dad used to work for the coast guard in the radio room and said you could do this at a certain part of the ship.
Old house on Park Ave, we have transmission line out front door feeding Greeley Colorado area...
It works a lot better in the late summer on a hot humid night when you hear the loud crackling of the lines
The sizzling is corona effect. The air acts as an insulator between the lines and the ground {earth}. With moisture added and temperature effect the insulating effect of the air is reduced close to the conductor (wire). The noise you hear is the ionizing of the air. The air molecules are being polarized and beginning to conduct electrons dissipating energy into the surrounding air. How a radio/television transmitter works.
My Uncle JC told me about this way back in the Early 90s !
You could make light sabers! And fight with your grandkid.
on a larger scale, the sun's high radiation energy hits earth (like the energy from the transmission lines) and lights up our magnetic forces (auroras). When they are powerful enough, the sun's energy hits long power lines and they, in turn, generate serious power surges. Fun stuff, that invisible force.
That is fascinating and scary as I live near high voltage lines
Connect a battery on the filaments.Heat will make the electrons faster.Also theHg will evaporate and make gas conducting better inside the tube
Can you use the fence wire as the antenna?
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What is this transient power doing to your body?
It would be interesting to try LED lighting as the amount of current required to fire them is even less than Fluorescent Lighting.
The evacuated tube is the berry
The florescent bulbs might light better in warmer weather such as 70 degrees ir so as they dont like to light when cold. You might notice this ehen replacing bulbs that were stored in a cool area.
Later, I was thinking the same thing. Won't be getting 70˚ temps for many months yet...
look how much power leaks out of those wires jesus!!!
3 ways to grab power leakage. Capacitive, just a long plate of copper insulated from ground, inductive, a bunch of rebar or similar wrapped with copper wire, or ion capture, an array of insulated spikes. The first gives the highest voltage. The second gives the most current. The third is highly dependant on weather.
that is one big electric sniffer :)
If these things weren't so expensive and didn't burn out so fast I would line my whole place across the power lines 😂
It would have probably worked better in summer. They don't like to work in the cold.
I know you showed all the sample lights at beginning of video, but if you lit it up with a flashlight while you were in the dark to show no wires it would have helped "illuminate authenticity"
Yep, I could have brought a flash light with, but didn't think of it. So many have done this already, there's really no reason to think it's fake. I wanted to verify if it would work under these lines.
the top line is not power,, it is either a ground wire, coper or aluminum or a fibre optic cable imbedded in Aluminum
1990s police radio antennas on cop cars would light them when the mic was keyed.
It really requires nothing but you holding a bulb over your head, and walking around under the lines. I've done it a few times
Would it be possible to light LED’s your thoughts please!
The evacuated tube is the berry
Nickola Tesla would be proud.
The flashing of the tube looks like the ones in my garage when the garage is cold.
Bad ballast. Convert to led
The e/m field is highest at some horizontal distance from the outer wires: about the same distance as the power line height.
You should create a coil 3 feet in diameter and a couple of windings.
You should consider any magnetic flux past that 62 foot easement line Yours ! And if they say anything! Bring suite against the power companies for, dangerous trespass on your property !
There's an Aluminium smelter near my home town that can use up to 13% of the nations power supply. Fluoro tubes run brightly with no wiring - a dropped nail will stand straight upright. Ordinary physics of daily life end at the gate lol
heard of a guy that got some mats put under power line . think he got the scavenge mats from Europe . power company was not impressed
Can you hook up your home solar power battery's to it.
Does anyone know if these transmission lines will mess with metal detectors? Asking for a friend.
I can see a spark with my ham radio antenna coming off the center connector to ground. I had to bring the 2 closer like a sparkplug. nowhere near a power line. Just static in the air.
I’ve heard of stories of people who live real close to power lines getting all types of cancers.
It seems that ancient buildings also had mercury antennas installed in the top space.
There is iron in the marble of the building, and it goes to the condenser in the pond.
It was connected.