Lovers except we abuse the 200 IQ TOILET STRAT... (modded)
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Featuring: Hafu, Dakotaz, Steve Suptic, xChocoBars, Rhiga, Koji, Ellum, Smajor1995, AnnieFuchsia
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Hafu: *yells something*
Scott: "STAY DEAD" lmao, felt that
Yeah idk why she has to talk all the time.
yea I get where she's coming from but her speaking while dead is still fucking weird. talk about it after the game is over. you're fucking dead, you don't speak.
I can't stand her. She gets sooo mad at them for doing that. But oh it's okay for her to do?! 🤦♀️🤷♀️
She's such a hypocrite.
@@wtfisahandle369 she makes the lobbies soo stfu?
@@cherry11144 soooo? Just because she "makes the lobbies" doesn't mean she needs to be a 🤬
Scott and 5ups lover relationship is both toxic and wholesome
So far, this is probably the most civil one lmao
@@reversidly I love 5up and Steve's toxic one 😂
@@Tristan1886 same, I still rewatch it sometimes 💀
@@reversidly it's worth rewatching hahaha
my go to lover duo is 5up and ellum
Scott: Where are you, 5up?
5up: *names location*
Scott: *runs to 5up's location*
NEXT ROUND
Scott: I'm at [insert location]
5up: Okay.
Also 5up: *runs opposite direction of where Scott is*
That's 5up for ya
great communication 😃👍
😂
I'm a month late but I'm wheezing 🤣 💀
@@SpencerCantu7 mate I’m like 7 months late and wheezing
Them saying "fufufu" in complete seriousness
What is that?
@@kittentune997 it’s the platform with the tiny little turbine on it in the gap area below meeting room. That’s the sound it makes so they call it that haha (edit I called a turbine and rotator because I’m dumb today)
@@hannahmonroe3094 I'm dumb every day
I call it the fufufu too 🤣 it's easier 🙈
Fr lmao is there even an actual name for it
5up everytime hes a lover with a European that isnt Fundy: * deep sigh * 😔
5up everytime hes lover with Fundy: YES I LOVE YOU
"There's only one European I want to be paired with, and he is not even playing."
@@Ffdjskss I thought fundy was dutch-
@@thoghtugs584 You can't be serious..
@@thoghtugs584 He is dutch. Which makes him a European.
*Scott:* You would be _lucky_ to date me.
Absolute king, this one.
Scott has a point. He's an icon, a legend and he is the moment.
@@Tristan1886 very true
@@Tristan1886 very true
@@Tristan1886 very true
@@Tristan1886 very true
DK has the energy of someone held at gunpoint saying, "What are you going to do, shoot me?"
Actually funny comment 🤣
why is that so accurate
"What are you gonna do? Stab me?
-Quote from man stabbed
@@speedybp5950 my friends like that someone makes a fist so he says “what you gonna do punch me?”
I could definitely read that sentence in his voice.
that first round lol
-DK walks past 5up
-Stebon walks to 5up and vanishes
-DK walks past 5up again and vents
-Twice
Deja vu
┌(・。・)┘♪
I thought it was a morphing the first time I saw it. So confusing 🥴
I thought there was a glitch in the matrix for a second.
@@panachevitz whoa, dey ja vu
Can we just appreciate Ryan's sportsmanship to vote himself so the lovers will definitely win even after Hafu spoiled it
Hafu talks way too much
@@ELL546 please dont insult hafu like that, keep your opinions to yourself ^^
@@TheAgnulee ok but to be fair, unmuting AS A GHOST during a meeting SEVERAL TIMES and spoiling peoples roles is a shitty thing to do. She had no reason to do that, she was just straight up cheating. It's even bigger bullshit when you know that she would have been furious if someone did that to her.
@@davit4005 oh no i completely understand, i just dont want people being rude to her about it because she did nothing wrong, just something annoying.
@@TheAgnulee She did do something wrong, but I agree that it wasn't bad enough to justify being rude to her.
That doesn't mean you should try to stop people from criticizing her entirely. Everyone makes mistakes, and people are allowed to have opinions as long as they don't go over the line.
Saying "Hafu talks way too much" is *not* an insult, it's a statement.
That’s a great way to respond to “hey qt”, “oh boy”
@@shukhada6664 pretty cringe
@@favray what you mean
@@favray You're cringe.
@@favray I don't follow?
@@Burntayo .
“HAFU SHUT UP. WHAT ARE YOU DOING?!” 😂😂
Just siblings arguing 😂😂
When
@@Andy-xi4ej watch the video, it's not that hard, but in the end
@@carookie5535 ah I did
😂
There should be a role called stalker or fangirl where you are in love with one of the lovers and your job is to get the other one out. And if the person you love dies you either die or can kill people out of anger.
Theres a lot of balance issues with that, but its a fun thought
Something along that would be fun
Or generally a role who is in love with anyone and could kill somehow, maybe a yandere impostor role. Kill everyone except your love interest
Or it could work on conditions similar to glitch as in not being impostor but still being the bad role
Would be very interesting
Kinda upset that Hafu interrupted the final meeting on purpose. The first thing where she says "lovers win" at the start isn't her fault, meeting happened to catch it. But then she interrupted the meeting, breaking the rules, to set them straight.
Hafu's the one who went on the little rant about why you need to follow the rules, just wait for the vote to be over to yell at them
Plus what rule is she on about?
Oh im sorry i lied to the impostor and crewmate so i can get my lover win. So what next, it'll be against the rule for crewmate to lie to impostors. Hafu liked it when toast and dumbdog did that to dk but i betcha she would have been unhappy if that shit was done to her when she had a good lie
@@Devil-Speed8 toast actually lied as a crewmate to get impostor hafu out early on in some vid a few months ago (pretending to have seen her vented, when he only very strongly suspected she did), she did not like that one bit lol
she has a tryhard attitude, in that she really wants to win, and also wants to see everyone trying to win. She wants everyone to have the same meta info and make decisions based off of that (eg. what are your options in this situation). She doesn't mind lying to get a win, just as long as it's not about meta or out of game information (like irl excuses, or lying about game mechanics), and to her lying to ryan that he hasn't an out falls in that meta category
unmuting was against the lobby's rules, and I wager she would have been upset if someone else did that to her, but also it doesn't mean she intentionally broke the rule to do whatever it is she would have done, instead it's more like an impulsive reaction to something she saw as lying about meta information, and felt the need to correct this
it was a tad annoying and unfair that she unmuted to help a living player, and she should have thought about it instead of impulse unmute, but it's not like she did it randomly or without reason either
whether this is right/justified or not isn't up to viewers to decide, but it's important to at least understand where she's coming from.
@@WoldenGolf hafu was just in the wrong period cause there never was a lie. The impostor literally had no way to win.
And secondly i felt like scott and 5up were ready to fight hafu for daring to suddenly get inbetween their W when shes dead.
@@Devil-Speed8 as they should be could i would be mad too
@@Devil-Speed8 she was wrong about ryan having a realistic out as well, but I don't think she had thought it through on the moment
unrealistically, he could have tied with janet, then kill one of the hiding lover, and hope their body doesn't get found in time he gets his kill cd back and kill the next person to come near the body, that's the only out I see but it's still unrealistic
I think she definitely was in the wrong to have unmuted during a meeting as a ghost regardless
DK is the friend we all want.
Tell that Nux Taku...
@@arukorubasuke that fact you have an escanor picture makes it even better lol.
I wish I had a friend like dk, he doesn't take anything to serious and is always down for a good time. Literally love those kinds of people they make me smile
@@stina263 exactly.
@@arukorubasuke huh?
Honestly Hafu's outburst at the end was completely uncalled for. That was a deserved win and Hafu almost sabotaged it because Janet hadn't considered some information and the lovers weren't bringing it up to out themselves. Really uncool
not really, 5up's lie is the one uncalled for, bc janet and ryan stil have a win condition,,
The thing is that ryan really had no way to win whatsoever. They could've made only 5up or only Smajor win, with Janet, by skipping and then killing one of the lovers, but that's it.
In case of a skip, the lovers just stack together :
- if Ryan kills Janet, lovers win
- if Ryan kills either 5up or Smajor, the alive one reports the body, and then Janet has no point in skipping, she's winning as crew
So, actually, he was right. Ryan could not win.
@@mattscene4231 Mind games and convincing others to give up as they have no chance to win is absolute baseline of this game, so 5up actually did what he actually was supposed to do.
I can absolutely understand Hafu, as I also always want everyone to fully understand game mechanics, situation and possibilities... But sabotaging the game just because she's salty can never be justified :/
@@mattscene4231 don't play and watch among us if you don't like people lying, it's literally the point of the game...
Hafu didn't really sabotage it...5up and Scott would've won as lovers either way.
dk: I think the assassin is too coward to...
Assassin: _Instantly kill dk_
I love that LOL 😂😭
The end could have been cooler if janet didnt hear hafu
yeah and when hafu unmuted and basically guaranteed it
@@keirajayne__ yeah the surprise factor was completely gone after that lmao
Hafu kinda ruined the game at the end. She confirmed lovers, she then unmuted to try to make 5up lose, then she got kinda salty as if 5up abused metagaming or something. They all made up immediately, but I wish Hafu didn't do that
Hafu always does shit like this, complains so much about stuff like that when its against her yet always gives things away by unmuting or similar things to what she did at the end
edit: another problem is how awkward she makes it sometimes, everyone else is cheering or saying well done, and she'll often come across as salty or find a problem with it instead of enjoying it as a game with her friends
@@TheDailyEgg " She confirmed lovers, she then unmuted to try to make 5up lose" what are you talking about? It was literally impossible for 5up to lose. Literally impossible. Lovers stack, even if Ryan kills 1 the other reports and then 5up wins as crew.
"then she got kinda salty as if 5up abused metagaming or something" Meta-gaming? It's literally just protecting noob players that don't understand the roles. Ryan isn't a regular and she just didn't want him to feel bullied or anything. The game was already over.
I'm sorry but it's funny how Hafu always says "deafen" but then is the one to unmute and give information
It's annoying tbh
@@happily3 no she's not, stop being toxic about it
@@Outfrost She literally is tho, saying deafen and then unmuting?
@@jamblstair It's just a game and nothing happend
It’s different. Deafen is so that the players would not cheat and know others role. In this video, janet already knew that the imposter was ryan so ryan has no hopes for winning if janet voted for him (I believe hafu didn’t think so far about janet skipping since even janet herself said there was no chance of her winning). She said it because she knew the game would ended with lovers winning anyway
bro imagine if 5up pulled that on hafu lmao
He should next time Hafu lies about "oh there's no way I could have killed that body, I was all the way over here" after venting. That would actually be closer to exploiting "gaps in knowledge" than what Hafu was accusing 5up of doing.
you know she would be LIVID if anyone did that to her
I think there was a game where 5up saved the game by fixing sabotage at final five as engineer. However, he knew Hafu was lovers with Dk. Dk was too caught on to getting the last imposter DumbDog out, that he forgot that would make the game end on a normal crew win. 5up said those two were lovers, Hafu counters this by saying, "I'm down to vote 5up out." (Which, while I was watching, made me think was a wrong play). She told Dk to vote with her who gradually realized the lovers win condition later. Steve who was clueless voted with them, ejecting 5up. But DumbDog possibly knew the lovers before 5up did, because he later said, so he killed one of them and got voted out on final three. Hafu wanted to know why 5up went and exposed their roles after game, and he said, "If you're going for a win condition that isn't mine, of course I'm going to try."
Bro the fact that I remembered this game made me realize I'm too invested in the morning lobby.
@@funtimeist yeah but 5up was still alive when he said that
All I’m saying is that if anyone did that while Hafu was about to win she’d throw the biggest fit and probably won’t invite that person to her lobbies anymore.
Yup, double standards. 5up and Scott were such good sports.
I really like hafu. But if anyone in the lobby did that to her... She would be raging and educating that person on how they are wrong and if the person didn't accept they are wrong they would be too much tension to continue playing together
sheesh, a hypocrite
Hm I think that's a little harsh on her. I don't think that's true
The frustration and bit of piss in 5up and Scott's voices when Hafu talks was so genuine and like "stop ruin our game" I laughed a lot. OMG
Because she ruined it for everyone else too
@@rebeccaconlon9743 yeah yeah I know exactly
Honestly. I feel like she should have waited until after the game and been like "Ryan, you could have said xyz, and theres a strat for next time youre in that sitch", but instead, she broke her own rule, and undeafened during the meeting, to try and help a living player. I get it's a game, but be a good sport about it, yknow?
@@Giuliana22. true
Where and when
Lately I've realised that Hafu really doesn't like to admit she's wrong on something
Yh but some ppl r just stubborn idk
This is a lot of people
Its human nature. No one ever wants to be wrong. A lot of people can manage their own ego's.
Hafu tries to keep that in check, but its hard for everyone... so let's just just single her out about it.
Lately? Lmao she’s so stubborn about everything
@@itzjay116 ye. That’s ppl for you sometimes. Stubborn about everything and hypocritical about most
Hafu gets so petty lol.
Yeah, a bit toxic
@@ignite5358 exactly, unsporting
@@rebeccaconlon9743 just move to the next game. I’ve played those matches with my friends where you think you are coming out on top and they yeet you out for almost no reason lol. Part of the game. Chaotic matches are where its at
Hafu called meeting ; "DK's just an engineer just vote him out"
Also Hafu (dead) said ; "there is an out for him. You liar"
In a deception game.
And also DK you are allowed to vibe 😭
She didn't say he was just an engineer, she said she thought he was making a play.
At least just focus on the dead chat part.
I was actually upset when Hafu unmuted at the end even tho she was dead.
Damn that’s crazy
@@braydenmiranda6795 ^
The game was already over, chill
Imagine caring about someone talking in a game, get over it
@@Jorge-pg4uc This.
I’m so used to seeing titles with IQs in the quintuple digits I forgot 200 IQ is still super high
Lmao same. I expect nothing under 1000 IQ
I think Albert Einstein's IQ was 160 or 161, just thought I should mention...
Pretty sure the highest possible IQ to even get is, like, 240 or 260 or something. The 88,750 IQ kinda stuff is just clickbaity memes.
**sigh** I miss toast amogus games
@@izzz_itb He never took a test, so that's just an approximation. And IQ doesn't really measure anything useful.
Hafu still trying to justify her thing even after she apologized, like pls omg. I love them all but dang. If that happened to her she would be SO upset! My God.
damn wtf was going on with hafu in this one? first janet hears her say the lovers stuff and then she just talks while she's dead on final 4 what even was that?
Fr
it's nothing new for her tbh
She argues she didnt like they lied to ryan yet the only reason why they knew about lovers was because she wasnt muted, shamelesness stonks
she wasnt at fault for the Janet thing as Janet undeafened too early and it wasnt predictable. as u can see the other 3 didnt hear hafu say lovers won
@@randomus3r425 ...........ghosts dont mute during game, they mute when the meeting starts, Janet muted too early for them to react
5up wasn't lying about anything. Tbh, Ryan has 0 win conditions and they weren't taking advantage of him. Just cuz they're getting the W she phrased it as "taking advantage" but if it was her game she'd said it was "her play". Imagine if 5up talks/treats her the way she talks/treats him? Imagine.
yeah i was thinking that 5up saying that ryan had no win condition was bc hafu already revealed that they are lovers so ryan can’t win..? idk
If they had skipped there, Ryan would just have to kill the non-lover and camp the body. Both lovers had already used their buttons. So yes, he had a win condition.
Likewise, if Ryan killed a lover first, Janet now has a chance to find their body or button and thus win as crew.
@@MaethoMixup if he killed the non lover the lovers automatically won lol. At least know how the roles work before made up a play. And Hafu was talking about Ryan having a "way out", which he didn't have at all. Only Janet maybe.
Ryan could have skipped and tried to get two kills. Janet could have also skipped, let Ryan kill a lover, then call a meeting to vote him out. There were ways for the lovers to lose.
@@KaseyC. ye but Hafu was insisting on "Ryan having a way out", while he didn't have one - Janet could win but there's no way Ryan could, he wouldn't be able to get 2 kills.
for the lying thing and "a gap of information" the point of lying is for the other person to have gap in information and to exploit that
and the point of the game is to deceive others with lying
it's a fundamental part of the game to use that gap of information to win the game if you're not a crewmate
Also, they weren't even lying - Ryan didn't have a win condition; he would have needed two kills with the first one being a lover when they already knew he was the impostor, which was impossible - they didn't even lie about that. Pretty sure also one of the points of the game is that the dead people shouldn't give away the living people's roles and Hafu already did that to Janet. The fact that Hafu had the nerve to complain after already confirming the lovers roles when they weren't even doing the thing she was accusing them of doing...
@@RoboSparkle I mean, I don't blame her, it was unfortunate timing that Janet just reported and undeafeaned when Hafu said "lovers won", has happened before with the mythical "DK: I saved the game, but I don't know who it is - Hafu: how?" or when Hafu said "she still needs to douse two" exposing Kimi's role, it's not intentional, so it's okay. But c'mon, you really call them out for that mid-meeting while you're dead?
It reminded me of that game where DK and Hafu were lovers and 5up called them and the impostor, DumbDog, out so that Steve would vote out the impostor. And she was mad that 5up had "exposed them", it's like, you can't do that to me when it's fair game, but I can do it while I'm dead? I like Hafu, but she does some very dishonorable actions.
no, the gap information shouldnt be used in this type of game, bc its unfair to new player just like the asking the mechanic of the task to the new players rule. just lie about your postition, your role, or whatevs but dont use the gap information to your advantege,,its always a rule on this lobby,,and hafu always very vocal about that
Ryan is a friend and a person who rarely plays among us, it might also have been one of the first times he played modded. Hafu had no stakes in it, just wanted to help a friend. Ryan could have tricked janet into skipping
@@RoboSparkle so Ryan did have win condition bruh,,and its not impossible,,he just have to kill one of the lovers, camp the body and kill again,,its done many times before. and btw hafu's didnt give away roles,,janet the one that accidently heard it in the deafen chat,, and in another game janet give away role bc when she died she read the lovers chat, then revived, and giveway the lovers role,,,is that hafu's fault too???i bet it is right??everything is always hafu's fault
Hafu would be so salty if that happened to her lol. And then on top of that people still defend her
There’s a dude named “D S” throughout these comments defending her lmao
@@itzjay116 Lmao, i see them everywhere. They keep saying the same thing "sHe WaS HeLpiNg rYaN!!!11!!"
@@itzjay116 I like Hafu. I do, I loved watching her play Among Us with others and I enjoy her channel. But the things she's been doing lately? This I feel is the last straw, that wasn't fun. That wasn't nice to watch. It's the same energy as 3 people in Monopoly giving all their stuff to the same person to screw over the player with more money and property. It's crap behavior. "To make it fair". It's not fair to the person who worked hard to get there if you can BS your way to victory.
@@LycanFerret yeah not really sure what hafu wanted them to do.. like did she want them to let ryan win?? after the worked hard to stay alive together for that long
Haha the “hey qt”, then the “oh boy” 😭
The same with Ellum in the video yesterday
I really like Hafu, but she frustrates me sometimes. I know it's coming from a place with good intentions, but sometimes she takes her role as Lobby Police a bit too seriously. On balance it's probably worth it, but sometimes I really wish she'd dial it back a bit.
EXACTLY. If someone else unmutes or says something mid meeting she gives them so much shit for it
I wouldn't complain if she had told them her point AFTER the game, let them get the win, that you know they deserve and them call them out for "taking advantage" of Ryan, which they didn't, but whatever.
I feel the same way. Even if she’s right, which she wasn’t in this case, she should stay muted out of respect for the others.
@@kevindesouza6219 dude if someone else did what she did they'd be kicked out of the lobby.
@@cesarwitha_t If she was in 5up's place she'd call it "her play" but when 5up's doing that it's "taking advantage".. she never makes sense! And if somebody else unmutes and talks mid-meeting like she did, she'd have lectured them for hours.
I love Hafu, I watch her videos just as much as I was 5up’s but I was so salty at the end there because Janet heard her AND because she unmuted…it was just not cool
Same plus she was just completely misunderstanding and didn’t give up about how 5up and Scott were mean to the ppl who lost when they weren’t :\. She was acting as if the lovers should’ve guided Janet or Ryan to a win when they just weren’t smart enough/didn’t care to go that length. Only Janet could have flipped it around and gotten a win there and hafu chimed in as if they were being mean to Ryan cuz he couldn’t win and lying to him lol. When the purpose of the game is to lie and gaslight ppl into not thinking of a way they can win. It’s not like they lied about a mechanic of the role he had and just cheated their way to victory. She def spoiled this wonderful lovers win
i’ve noticed lately things like that happen a lot when she is dead. it’s kinda off putting that i’ve noticed it more than once. i still enjoy watching her videos but she definitely isn’t always the most respectful when she loses/:
Not cool at all. And acting like Ryan is this complete noob for not seeing a win that wasn't even possible makes HER sound like the jerk, not 5up and Scott
@@ImAlpine Ryan was a noob and didnt see he could have swayed janet
@@tamhuy10 There is no win for Ryan, only for Janet. Any kill Ryan makes loses him the game. A final 4 with confirmed lovers crew and impostor means impostor chooses if crew or lovers win at that point.
Hafu could at least waited for votes to be in before making any input smh
Hafu at last meeting be like: "would someone do that? Go in meetings and tell lies?!"
Hafu really can't help but overstep bounds and provide external influence xD
Yeah kinda ruined it wish she wouldn't do so, but she can't help herself so.
Thats her personality ,it makes it spicy but annoying at the same time
@@shashankgm2533 that’s not a personality that’s toxic 💀
15:44 *5up:* "We're going for that big Lover's win rate"
Little did he know he was going to get this role MULTIPLE times right after...
I'm just confused, because last time someone tried to help against Hafu she yelled at them to stay dead aswell xD.
No need for confusion, that is just called hypocrisy, which is the specialty of Hafu
@@Popatoh Someone had to say it! Cuts people all the time just to yell DEAFEN and the same person unmutes herself during the meeting to sway votes? C'mon.
who did this to hafu? i missed this
Hafu needs to choose one: Keep her mouth shut when dead until back in the lobby, OR don't ever flip out at anyone doing anything they "shouldn't". Because trying to have it both ways just makes her unlikable.
You mean “because not having these just makes her unlikeable”
And here we are in another episode of 5up absolutely hating his life because he's lover again.
Edit: It's really fun how he hates being lover with europeans (except for one) but he's so good at it tho
No no no, I'm sure he like lover, just not with the Europeans.
There's only 1 European he wants to be with
i wonder who that is.. 👀
@@izzz_itb who
@@dylanashryver1872 a fellow dutch furry who plays minecraft a lot
Kind of sucks that hafu talked over the last meeting like that. It kind of takes the shine off that win and video for 5up and Scott to have the last half of the meeting and argument between a dead hafu and 5up.
They work so hard for videos and sometimes don’t get them for ages. Then 5up and Scott get one and hafu talks over the last meeting trying to coach the imposter.
It’s ironic that this video came out shortly after her one where she got angry that a LIVE 5up exposed that she and dk were lovers on 5. And then she proceeded vote out 5up, who was engineer, despite her only win condition at that point being as crew.
got a link?
@@winnow4792 won’t let me link for some reason.
Apparently it wasn’t her upload actually. I remember it from her perspective cause I saw it on her stream.
You can search “that’s the worst thing you could have done” and the channel is Among Us Academy. It’s from Steve’s POV which is hilarious because he is so confused the whole time.
@@winnow4792 ua-cam.com/video/rAelSUWXNV4/v-deo.html
wasnt it just a theory that they were lovers, not confirmed?
And even then, he was alive, its not like he exposed information he shouldnt of known. He said 'these two are probably lovers' and...
got voted out for... doing the right thing?
At the end with Hafu saying that Ryan had a win condition, I don't think that's true. If you and scott stayed together either he kills janet and you win, or he kills one of you and you report
If they didn't spawn together though, then it would theoretically be possible for him to kill one of them then kill someone else before the body is found. So there was a win condition for him, it was just one that wasn't likely to happen.
I think he could've also won if Janet, Scott or 5up was voted out and Ryan killed someone. Or am I just being stupid?
@@PeachyMitchie If Janet was voted out the lovers would win, as they win when 2 lovers and 1 person is alive. It wouldn't have been possible for Scott or 5up to be voted out since its the 2 of them against Janet and Ryan, resulting in a tie unless one of the lovers vote the other lover out.
@@Livestick42 well, with chat and a long kill cool down (if ryan wasn't underdog), almost certainly not possible
@@jinga108 Also they already knew that Ryan was imposter so there was no way to win for him even if he killed one of the lovers.
hafu: liar!
me: 👀 that’s the point of the game? uhhh
she didn’t mute herself then talking while dead? haha wow
i don’t want to be annoyed since it’s just a game but c’mon? what is that play? hahaha
dead don’t mute during gameplay, janet overhearing wasn’t anyone’s fault. having said that unmuting during the meeting was not ok and she shouldn’t have done that
@@arandommonth765 I agree with you 100%
Hafus super competetitive against 5up, she's not going to give him a win happily if she can out him on principle. It's really hypocritical
Hafu literally always tells people to stay dead 😬😬 she can’t do that. If he didn’t know how to win, then he didn’t
DEAFEN DEAFEN DEAFEN
Exactly, he can be educated after the game is over before they start the next game, or just reflect on it himself. No need to insert your dead self into the final 4 and ruin any sense of tension or anticipation that was building.
Impostor had no win condition which just makes it worst then it already was
I hate to say this but hafu frustrates me in so many situations. The way she approaches among us legitimately makes me anxious LMAO she just needs to chill sometimes. Too stressful...
For the situation at the end. There wasn't anything about the role mechanics that 5up knew and Ryan didn't. If Ryan thought about it carefully, he, like any other reasonable person, could conclude that he in fact had a win condition. It's not preying on ignorance, it's deception. Which is the point of the game.
It's not really a big deal but it's happening a lot with Hafu recently and it seems like nobody in the lobby wants to say "You're wrong and here's why" to not ruin the mood. However, DK dismissing the chat calling her out as haters everytime isn't really helping the situation.
Anyway, it seems like Hafu is a bit too stubborn to back down sometimes. When she's right she talks well and confidently but when she's wrong and is asked to explain herself, her tone becomes unsure and she always says "I don't know!" in a high-pitched voice and struggles to rationalize what she feels.
The thing is Ryan only had a win condition if it took Scott and 5up longer than his kill cooldown to find each other which is actually impossible. The kill cooldown is too high for that. And even if he could manage to find one of them en route. The other one would know where they started and where they were going…easy to find their corpse.
They have lovers chat, they can coordinate where to meet in seconds.
my point exactly 👏🏽 ryan is not new to among us or to the mods
Impostor literally had no win condition.
But yea im starting to get annoyed at this lobby and i miss toast lobby alot
5up and Smajor are such an underrated duo!!
Hafu told janet that there was lovers alive, so hafu cheated, and then complained at 5up for "lying". She was in the wrong either way there.
Hafu didn't mean to tell Janet anything. It was just unfortunate that Janet undeafened right when she was saying that.
@@Lii_Skye yeah ik, but she still gave the crew info that they otherwise wouldn't have
True. 5up wasn't lying about anything. Tbh, Ryan has 0 win conditions and they weren't taking advantage of him. Just cuz they're getting the W she phrased it as "taking advantage" but if it was her game she'd said it was "her play". Imagine if 5up talks/treats her the way she talks/treats him? Imagine.
@@vaishmads1115 yeah, technically ryan could have won if 5up was a bad player, but he isn`t, so ryan had 0 chance.
@@vaishmads1115 exactly, Ryan technically had a win condition but only if the entire rest of the lobby decided to throw for him.
Although i like hafu and respect her, she can be so hypocritical
I agree. I’m sure she’s a great person and I’m very thankful for her leadership in this lobby, and I also hate it when people join the hate train so imma be a little hypocritical myself, but it kinda irritates me when everyone is laughing at a joke and she’s just kinda stonefaced too. Also when she’s been caught in the act as imposter and she sounds like she gets annoyed and defensive that she’s actually crew and sticks with it until the very end.
I honestly can’t stand her after every round saying deafen when she can’t even listen to herself. I tried watching one of her videos and turned it off after 2 minutes
Yes I’ve been saying this. Hafocritic is her new name! She’s a good player but biggest bash against her is if it isn’t going her way she cries. But when someone else does it she get on to them. And she tweaks the rules so much in her favor. She kept getting killed and losing to the assassin role so she changed it to one shot as assassin now! I honestly liked it better the couple days she was gone and 5up took charge of the group. Dk is right the game has been out so long that the chaos games are fun to see now!
@@Scottholiday13F I don’t watch the morning lobby anymore I just watch 5UPs videos on here. I can’t stand the complaints and constant tweaks made by her
@@coreymoorey8093 I'm half expecting engineer to get a cooldown at the start of every round when she gets denied an imposter win because engi instant fixes a sab to button and save the game, or a "no fix on 6" house rule
5up's gotten the 'Lover' role with his European harem so much that all these videos seem repetitive at this point 😂
When the asexual guy is the one who is building a harem
@@derpythean-comdoge8608 now that's a good idea for a show, man the comedy would be golden
Yeah, at the start, I was like "Didn't I already watched this video?" x)
@@derpythean-comdoge8608 from the way they act, one might think most harem anime protagonists are asexual...
@@a.velderrain8849 ...thats... you're speaking the truth but I dont want to believe it ;-;
I agree that it is part of the game to lie about there being no way to win because they just didn’t measure all the options. They had equal opportunity to think about all possibilities but didn’t realize.
Yeah, I don't really see how it's an unfair lie to not be able to see how someone can win and then tell them that. I really don't see it as having been a mechanical statement, it was just his assessment of the situation. Ryan shouldn't be unable to have considered 5up's opinion for himself.
Anyways, they made up not one minute after it happened anyways, just kinda sucked for the vid.
yeah i agree, i think hafu’s unmuting kinda messed that up lol ryan and janet voted without thinking
Janet could have a chance to win as crew, but with Hafu saying that Ryan had "a way out", which was actually wrong lol - there's literally no way for him to win. He had to kill one of the two lovers, who had been staying with each other the whole game and could chat, they wouldn't separate in the last round ever.
Hafu: "Can we not break the silence of the dead?"
Also Hafu: 17:02
“Deafen!”
-person who talks when dead
That's literally how the lobby has worked for 6+ months? Are you serious?
@@DJS12345678 Not the part where she unmutes during the meeting and confirms two roles, and says ‘liar’ while lying herself. She would have kicked the person who did that to her out of her lobby, very hypocritical.
@@Blafina she was technically correct and it would be hypocritical for her NOT to say something. Wolfabelle trying to lie about how the mechanics of the game worked was the last straw before Hafu stopped regularly inviting her. Hafu literally always protects new players by soft-banning "Tasking" and also by always pointing out when someone is incorrect, even technically, about the mechanics of the game.
@@DJS12345678 That’s cool and all but how about not doing it in the middle of a game while your dead, that’s plenty of time in between rounds to deal with that shit.
@@DJS12345678 It's literally part of the game to lie. 5up didnt lie about mechanics of roles, he just had the game smarts(that Ryan didn't) to identify if the win conditions
Hafu doesn't mute so often lol. I feel like I see her give it away so frequently.
? You know Hafu's lobby doesn't mute during the rounds, right? Janet undeafened super early. There's a reason 3/4 people didn't hear her, Janet undeafened before anyone else.
She’s the same one that always yells “deafen” too lol. So it’s like... take your own advice eh?
@@DJS12345678 Sure but then right after Hafu kept talking. It doesn't matter if Janet heard her bc she undeafened early. Hafu should've just shut up right after and not try to sway the outcome.
@@itzjay116 She's not supposed to deafen, the whole point of asking alive people to deafen is to have dead people talk, it's a human mistake that Janet heard her (even though she kinda already knew Scott and 5up were lovers), but it wasn't a mistake when she did it mid-meeting.
@@DJS12345678 Janet hearing Hafu spoiler lovers win was a honest mistake.
Hafu then continuing to talk and try to sway the game afterwords is not an honest mistake but a deliberate action to sabotage the game.
If I was Ryan I'd be a little annoyed at Hafu infantilizing me, I hate when someone tries to treat me different rather than how they'd treat others in the group. If that makes sense. That was such a good lovers win!
Every time I see when Hafu interrupt in end meeting I want to cry. So much pain
hafu at the end... ok.... 😭
Hafu needs to just relax lmao
5up's lover: hey bb u lookin' real cute today ;)
5up: please god no
I love how rhiga was like "join the darkside janet!! We could win!!" It was unnecessarily funny in my mind for some reason lmao
Hafu was just butthurt at the end because she almost spoiled the game by allowing janet to overhear her say that the lovers won
HAFU WHAT? Ryan didn't have a win condition! Janet had one not Ryan! Why unmute for that?
technically he still have one,,its hard,,but its possible and been done many time before on this lobby,,he just have to kill one of the lovers,,camp the body and kill again,,i mean the map is huge,,so its very possible,,and btw hafu have to unmute to called out 5up's lie bc its unfair to Ryan who didnt really familiar with the role, and tis one of the rules to not lie about the mechanic/role of the game. 5up usually lie about that and hafu's also try to called him out for that.
ryan did have a win condition it would just be really hard, and only if scott and 5up didn’t stick together. i do think the unmute wasn’t needed though
@@mattscene4231 No, she didn't have to unmute to "call out 5up's lie" because he didn't lie about the rules or mechanics of the role. 5up and smajor had been sticking around the whole time basically and everyone was pretty clear on who the impostor was so saying "you don't have an out" is not a lie about how the roles work. If they want to debate amongst themselves then they should do so after the game not during the game because it at best all it can do is spoil the current game.
@@mattscene4231 This doesn't really work because 5up and Smajor just meet up before cooldown ends and then when the impostor kills one, the other instantly reports. Also, Janet and Ryan had all the information they needed to find the win condition, they just couldn't figure it out in time. Them not knowing how to win there wasn't due to a lack of game knowledge, it was from a lack of quick thinking. They know how the lovers role works, they know if either Janet or Ryan gets voted lovers win, they know they can't vote out a lover and can only tie, and they should be able to deduce that the only course of action is to tie and let the impostor kill one. Regardless, even if Hafu is right, this is setting up a stupid precedent where any time a impostor says something like "I couldn't have killed, I was over in X" someone dead can chime in and be like "HEY THATS NOT TRUE THERES A VENT CONNTECTING X AND Y", and clearly that wouldn't be desirable. Hafu should have owned up and apologized, she would be pissed if someone had done that to her.
@@soiherduliekvideoz but its still a chance esp bc the map is huge and he can play with doors,, im not saying ryan 100% win that game if he did that,,im saying he had chance,,
and why hafu have to apologize when she's not the one that lie about the mechanics of the game/role..and hafu's interupption didnt even effect 5up's win bc 5up gonna win anyway at that point even without the lie,,that why its uncalled for
scott is being so wholesome, and 5up is like 'oh boy'
5up and Smajor go like cotton candy lmao
Lmao wait they are I love that
@@idk-5344 Right lol
I agree with 5up at the end. Yes, it was an information gap like hafu said. But it was more of a puzzle than a lack of information. He had all the puzzle pieces, he just didn't put the puzzle together
So actually it wasn't an information gap.
The information gap seemed to be not knowing if Lovers both dying at once was enabled or not. If it is, Janet and Ryan never win. If it isn't, they have a chance.
Hafu is just always envy of 5up's win
I probably shouldn't make a big deal out of this, but wtf was with Hafu this game? Although I can sort of see where she's coming from, her reasoning is just wrong. In addition to that, her trying to influence the meeting while dead is hypocritical to what she's been telling everybody else.
In social deduction games like this, it is a given that people will "prey on ignorance" or use "gaps of information" to their advantage. 5up didnt lie about mechanics of roles, so he wasn't in any wrong. If other people can't identify if their win condition is still achievable, then that will and should be used against them.
Yeah you cant just go unmute and say that if she was lovers with someone and someone unmuted said that she would pissed so hypocritical honestly
She's egoistic and extremely hypocritical. Idk how her StAnS don't see it!
@@dariusduonelavicius218 Hafu is only at fault after unmuting about the win condition. The Hafu lobbies never mute while dead except when the meetings start. All dead players stay unmuted and all alive players use the "Deafen" feature in Discord (can't hear any voice comms). This allows the dead people to talk to each other. Janet mistakenly unmuted too early and heard Hafu talking to *other* dead saying "Lovers Win" or something like that. Human reaction time isn't instant, so it is always possible to hear the dead players talk if you undeafen early enough.
Hafu is at fault when she unmuted for the win condition argument, which is a discussion that should have happened after the game.
Every time I start warming up to hafu she does something else to annoy me
Hafu really was trying to sabotage their game
i like how dk nonchalantly calling out hafu at the end
He did? What did he say? I can’t catch it.
@@missmadkat4632 something along the lines of “it’s not a big deal hafu, this game has been out for 7 months” basically telling her to chill out
@@itzkatieee1133 oh, i thought he said that to make her feel better.
@@missmadkat4632 it seemed to have a sarcastic tone to me, might be wrong 🤷♀️
i think hafu unmuting to sabotage 5up and scott during the meeting was super uncalled for because not only was ryan a confirmed impostor on 4, but he sabotaged his own win condition by killing ellum who was the only other sus person. the game was going to end with either a crew win or a lovers win, always. the only way he could have won is if the crew deliberately threw the game by skipping on 4 when they know who it is and letting him kill 2.
Everytime I see the phrase "Hey qt" it slowly breaks offa braincell of mine in both a good and bad way
Hafu the deafen queen won't shut up when it counts
When the lover has Monika hair 😳
J U S T S M A J O R
OH GOD THE FLASHBACKS
Good job 5up by not cutting out the conversation after game and exposing Hafu's hypocrisy.
Hafu tried to ruin the game. Twice. Saying "stay dead" was the nicest thing she could have heard. It's a social deduction game that people will lie to win. If you feel strongly about what is said, hold it until the end of the game. If her problem was a knowledge deficit that she felt that needed addressing. Obvious bullshit excuse is obvious.
I watch these videos not because they're fun to watch, but because people show integrity. Even within this week, you had 5Up seeing Hafu pop out of a vent because a meeting was called (obvious bug is obvious) and said nothing, because that's information he wasnt supposed to have. You had people report a bugged corpse (dead from previous round) and decided not to address it, dont speak of it, dont share information, nothing. Integrity. Not people that are dead deciding to speak about "lovers wins" on final four unmuted, or even going unmuted during the final meeting. That's just fucked up, and pissed me off more than it should. Even more knowing that since toast is not on his lobbies, he wont be the voice of reason to remind Hafu that it's just a game, take a chill pill, there's a time and place for everything, and not ruin it for everyone else. Because everyone else in that lobby is far too nice to tell her as much. And I know i'll take shit for pointing this out, but heh, I'm sure I wasnt the only one pissed that this happened.
Hafu speaks unmuted then has the audacity to chime in again lol
Someone needs to remind hafu that the dead can't talk, smh
Hafu just casually trying to ruin a game because she can’t stay dead
hafus a brat idc what people say
bruh fr like what was that???
she also said that one time that 'NFTs aren't that bad' so you know, she's just a trash person all around.
@@deadsirius4456 what's nfts
@@lynnclusive3577 Non-fungible cryptocurrency. They're SUPER bad for the environment, and it contains a ton of scammers as well.
Hafu basically throwing that game at the end when she is dead is so hypocritical
Since 5up mentioned "Masons"(role in One Night Werewolf basically Lovers) I hope they add more roles from it. Specifically a Troublemaker role.
This is how I think it would play:
- During a meeting the Troublemaker can choose to players(can't pick yourself) to swap their roles
- There is no visual for this unlike Swapper. It won't show the other players whose roles changed only Troublemaker knows who swapped with who
- Troublemaker doesn't know the roles of the people they swap
- When the meeting ends the two players effected will either just casually have their role be different or a visual will tell them their new role for a sec or 2
I think Troublemaker would be a fun role with lots of betrayal. Add in Assassin, and it makes it hard for an Impostor who gets swapped because the new Impostor could Assassin the old one.
Yes more roles from one night werewolf would be awesome. Maybe the robber where you can steal someone’s role. Imagine how cool it would be if robber stole imposter and the imposter still thought they were an imposter but the robber knew they weren’t 😂
Lack of information is 100% a valid strategy. Its not like they were lying about how a role worked, the entire game is about outsmarting other people. Trying to make them think its impossible for them to win from something its perfectly within the rules of the game.
hafu is always saying deafen and telling everyone to deafen every round. and then she unmutes and completely ruins the surprise factor and could’ve blown the game if ryan didn’t vote himself
When they were denying each other, it was giving me the vibes of like two friends who like each other but are denying that are to one of their other friends.
Yeah, Hafu shouldn't have said anything when she was already dead
Hafu tried REALLY hard to make lovers lose 🤣
I love Hafu but god dang dude revealing 2 roles and trying to influence the meeting when she was dead doesn't sit well with me.
She almost ruined the game by both revealing roles and then trying to teach Janet to win when she was dead. Ignoring that Janet wouldn't even know Scott and 5up were Lovers without her saying when Hafu was dead already. Not cool.
and it seems like she gets mad if anyone else does the same thing
@@BorninVirginia she gets mad when something similar happens to her
Yeah, I agree, Love hafu but the way she acted in this vid was not cool
she didn’t mean it the first time, but I see what u mean
For real. It doesn't matter that she accidentally revealed "lovers won". Even though it's sad, it's a mistake that can easily happen.
Backseat gaming Janet and Ryan when she's dead on the other hand is just so damn frustrating to watch. If she's really so concerned about exploiting lack of player knowledge then it's not like she couldn't have just waited until the game was over and then explained that there's a winning strategy for Janet. And what is "exploiting a knowledge gap" even supposed to mean? By that logic she might as well unmute every time they forget there's a vent near a kill location or when they misjudge the time it takes to get somewhere for an alibi.
Hafu was right that Ryan does still have a win condition but in this context it doesn't apply. Janet, 5up, and Scott already pretty much know that it's him so regardless of the "out" that Ryan could have, the phrase "there's no out for you" (meaning he's already been found out) isn't used in the same context as Hafu was complaining about.
It's like saying to your friend "You're crazy!" Then in comes this medical personnel or whatever that teaches you the definition of what "crazy" actually means when it comes to Medical field when the phrase isn't really used in that context
I don't even think he had that win condition. He HAS to kill 5up or Scott first, and they both know it. So all they have to do is stay near each other. If he kills one, the other reports, and they vote with Janet to get him out. He can only win if 5up, Scott, and Janet hand him the win on a silver platter. Janet is the one who actually still had a win condition, but it would rely on a really long, boring final round to get there.
yeah this is what i was thinking. saying “there’s no out for you” and “you have no win condition” are two different things. like 5up and scott are confirmed lovers and if janet is crew then it’s just ryan. he doesn’t have an out
Hafu telling everyone to deafen constantly but can talk and ruin the game when she wants.
The little “deafen!” At the end of a meeting is fun and cute/wholesome imo, but the hypocrisy is a bit annoying
i love that his outro picture has not changed at all since he started
So first Hafu spoils the fact that there were 2 lovers left, then she gets salty about the win? Honestly, I get such bad vibes when she pulls this stuff off, simply cause if the roles were reversed she'd be so pissed. She's done this before to Toast, and it's not nice.
thank you!
hafu: i can't believed you lied in a lying game, thats so mean
lol
(no hate)
*lovers with 5up*
Europeans: hey qt😉
Hafus the biggest hyprocrite in history she would’ve been so tight if 5up did that to her
16:12 Janet doesn’t usually come up with creative plays, but *theoretically* the Crewmates should win here.
Both Crewmates and Imposters instantly lose here by voting out Ryan, so for both of them the 100% best play is to force a skip. They can permanently force skips so Lovers can never win. This means that Ryan’s Imposter win condition is to hunt down and kill both Lovers in a single round, while Janet’s Crewmate win condition is to report a Lover’s body and force the other Lover to win as Crew.
Since Ryan cannot kill Janet or else Lovers win, this means that Janet can just follow him around to insta-report or, if he escapes by venting, she should be able to find the body on Admin table. Thus the game is Crew favored, assuming all 4 players are trying to win.
Pretty sure the lovers both die if one die?
So Janet has literally no win condition. She knows Ryan is impostor, voting him makes lovers win, voting lovers makes him win.
Ryan's win condition is either convincing Janet to skip or vote lovers. Which is never happening outside of meta "Vote them so they lose" plays.
I feel like the issue with the case he argued around 9:00 is that the Lovers win is already more prioritized (for both crew and imposter) because it's more difficult. Whereas if you're a Loving Imposter where somehow the Imposter win is designed to be more desired/favorable, your crewmate Lover is just a free kill and the Lovers role doesn't impact gameplay that much.
Hafu piping up, while dead, once again because she feels like there is an 'information gap.' Same situation like what made her get upset at Wolfabelle. The game is about lying and if someone isn't able to figure something out by themself or doesn't understand a game mechanic they should just have to take the loss and be informed after the game is over. She's so annoying lol.
5up didn't lie he bluffed. It's the same idea of tricking an impostor into thinking they are caught and confessing. Ryan didn't have give up but 5up and scott had to convince him to
Hafu every time: "DEAFEN!"
Also Hafu: *throwing games because the mic isn't muted*