I also would like to add: UA-cam red wanted to do a series on exo but sm refused. Clean bandit wanted to collab w them but sm also refused. Exo got invited by billboard for an interview, sm refused. They got invited to coachella, also refused.
I'm an exol since 2013 and I can't count how many times they mistreatment by sm... We've been really hard times that I still can't forget about. EXO is one of most successful and most humble group I've ever seen... I love ma precious boys
@@fightwoman lol no they aren’t, if they really are privilege, exo members shouldn’t really said those things they’re getting through of mistreatment. It’s hard to believe yes but kpop industry are darker than you think
I can deduce that you are lying even though you claim that you are 'EXO-L' since 2013. If you were really an official fan you would never claim that they were mistreated. You are an anonymous user with a recent UA-cam account.
@@mosaycomusic oh really, do you really think all of the exo members is lying? Do you really think luhan and tao left for no reason? Do you really think being an exo-l needs to paid to sm to be on official fandom? What a total bs. You shouldn’t waste your time for writing bs and just stream your favs
Thanks for the reaction!!! EXO-Ls won the title of the strongest fandom, and that’s why. Be and support EXO no matter what. There are many bad “EXO-Ls”. Most recently they are asking to Chen and Chanyeol leave the group. It’s make me really mad. If you know how much EXO love Exo-L, they suffered a lot to be there with the fans. SM don’t deserve EXO. They would be bigger, because all we know that EXO is a very very talented group
The problem is that many fans consider themselves EXO-L but they are not, you can only be EXO-L if you belong to the official fandom, only if you are registered in SM ent as a fan. All official fandoms are registered within their respective record labels. It's different being a fan of EXO's music than belonging to EXO-L. An anonymous user saying that he is EXO-L is not legitimate, nor is what he says credible.
@@mosaycomusic omg, stop promoting SM. Are you a fan of SME???? Shoot! You want to alienate fans from EXO? Are you anti? Or just ignorant? Instead of attracting more and more people to love EXO's music you just cut the people who are deeply devoted to EXO just because they don't pay money to SME for membership??? Do you know that EXO are loved in countries like Iran, Brazil and many others who only care for EXO not some stupid ceremonies to be accepted as EXO-L. Are you SME marketing department employee? A lot of people don't even have an opportunity to spend money on any membership or their bank card isn't accepted internationally. I'm just beyond words at this point by how narrow-minded people can be. 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
@@mosaycomusic what a BS! ive been an EXOL ACE for years , but i did not have to, I just signed up for perks. ANYONE CAN BE AN EXOL as long as you're supporting them and loving their music. You can be called an EXOL even if you do not have merch, or havent registered to any official sites. YOU CAN BE AN EXOL JUST BY LOVING THE GROUP. You've been gaslighting EXO fans in here acting like you're LSM and now you audaciously misinform them?!
@@rkdo9554 Don't try to disrespect me. I repeat what was said above. I'm not a fan, I'm a musicologist. You are discussing matters that have to do with my profession. The previous comment is true. An EXO music lover is not an EXO-L, if you are not registered in the official fandom you are not EXO-L. I'm sorry to bother you but the truth sometimes hurts.
@@mosaycomusic no one's disrespecting you, you on the other hand are disrespecting fans and the group. What you are doing is gaslighting and invalidating the struggles the group and fans are experiencing due to the decisions of the agency. You are brushing off the mistreatments towards the group and fans who first hand experienced the stuff that have been mentioned in the video. You may be a musicologist, but you were not the one who witnessed the struggles of the artists who seek emotional support from fans everytime they struggle. Have you watched all interviews of these artists validating mistreatments for you to tell us that what we are saying are just utter lies?!
exo was invited at COACHELLA but sm declined exo was invited to interviewed by Billboard sm rejected, exo was asked to film documentary by UA-cam sm rejected it, exo was asked for a many many collaborations by famous western artists but exo rejected… theres just so many more and they never had a world tour is just insane theyre one of the few groups who has never stepped foot in the US and doesnt have US label when theyre one of the most popular group
They don’t have an American label is accurate but “Has never set foot in the US” isn’t exactly true. They performed at LA KCon multiple times, first exo-m then the whole group. And they’ve had at least two what were called world tours at the time where they toured most of Asia, and had multiple US stops. They’ve done variety show promotions here, they’ve filmed MVs here. And recently Kai and Chen went to Europe and Australia for kpop festivals. Exo has undergone hardships, but we do them no favors forgetting their achievements too.
@@MsKaz1000 it's different lmao SUPERM is a group project of SM and western label forgot the name (Capitol??) anyways, EXO ain't benefited in ANY superm stuffs since SUPERM promotions is more likely just for other group promotion (nct) since EXO and KaiBaek are ALREADY FAMOUS AND HAVE FANBASES in West even before the kpop became big even more and Shinee and also Taemin also have fanbases there so it's interesting when someone will say that SUPERM benefits THE OLDER GROUPS to be known (in west) when in FACT the TWO GROUPS are already have fanbases there and MOSTLY superm stans are from NCT FANDOM and the new ones are also from other groups stans (outside sme groups) and some of them are solo stans.
I know every kpop group has a story before becoming famous but what makes me love EXO more is even though some members left and wasn't sure back then if they would be disbanded they stood strong and gave it their all still..up to this day. Yes they became famous and received many awards even when they just started back then but they remained humble and works hard for their fans.
I just pray that they all find someone that they can love and be comfortable with like Chen and find peace in their chaotic world. They went through too much stuff for such a humble group, I heard in the beginning they even got paid with rice at one event😔
I'm an Army being said that I always admired Exo members of how talented they are and wondered why couldn't they penetrate global market despite having all abilities.. Now I clearly see why.. I also wondered why don't they write and produce their own songs which would showcase their creative thinking rather than company made concepts and music.. Later realized they were treated like puppets with no freedom😟.. It's just sad that so much could have been done with such explosive talent and the world never got to see
Who said they don’t write and produced their music ? All of lay solo is his work, Exo sc Chanyeol and Sehun work, many Exo songs lyrics was written by Exo members
Oh I'm not aware of that then.. I said that because I don't see any of them in KOMCA Credits top 100(songwriting credits) except for Lay in 60th position (53songs..i just checked it out again)like u said from his solo stuff and when he actively worked as exo...
@@ahilesahilesov2112 Oh I See.. Probably the number of songs written by them is less then 34 i.e 100th position that's why I couldn't see in top100.. I wish when they comeback again hope to see more extensive participation 😊😊
There is a video about how they get mistrited in mama 2017 and why they don't attend award shows bcz that year they where at top in all categories but at the last moment the votes get deleted and others grp take the win , you absolutely should check that video you will understand more , we love exo and we always support them
That year BTS won because they had more streams and points. The audio tape of the company employee explaining it to the fan is still out there. Exo has faced adversities but this wasn't one of them. They literally sweeped that award shows for years so there was no bias against them.
@@babbes4210 well BTS was getting famous in the west , Music industry is like that , they are not loyal to anyone , it doesn't matter whether EXO getting the awards for years or not , if they saw a better opportunity they will shift to that opportunity for a bigger audience. The Category requirements added in the last minute just so that they could give the award to BTS, don't you think in 2016, EXO-L wouldn't fill all the requirements needed to win (especially EXO-L known to be do everything to make EXO win that time)Like Mama made a rule that one group can't take all the awards during 2017 but I remember BTS taking all the awards for many years, (not blaming BTS but this is how the industry works, they will take opportunities and give opportunities by their own terms, and make rules to benefit themselves, a group can benefit from it for few years but will change the moment they saw a hope of bigger opportunities)
It is better that you do not recommend the videos that circulate on UA-cam because they do not tell anything more than nonsense, rumors and hoaxes. Teenagers believe everything they see, often because they are immature, but for an adult to do so is absurd.
@@SadiaIslamShouki Do not forget that the prizes are awarded by the same industry that promotes the artists, there are business interests that fans do not understand.
@@mosaycomusic have u not seen how bad it went for luhan, kris, and tao when they left? you kept commenting these stuff like an sm bootlicker, claiming to be more knowledgable and discrediting long time fans because of your superiority complex. if you don't like this content then ignore and go do something else.
That's why I really love EXO...they have been get many mistreated from inside and outside. They worked so hard to be in their place right now and still survive. We will always support EXO and protect them.
That story of suffering and struggle seems copied from another fandom... EXO have never been mistreated, they are happy with their company and have renewed their contracts more than once.
@@ds-zd9qz the best as a grp as a musician as a lot of things , i respect all the grps and Stan all of them but the music that exo gives is rare and different
The fact that saesangs broke into the dorm and stole D.O.'s underwear. And that severely changed his comfort level with fans, and even his personality to a certain extent. It's seriously messed up. The amount of abuse EXO has taken from saesangs is, quite frankly, underreported and not talked about enough when the topic of saesangs comes up.
That never happened, it was a hoax on social media. An anonymous supposed fan said that she had stolen underwear from her room and intended to sell it but the announcement of her disappeared a short time later and she was never mentioned again. The story that D.O. changed his personality because of these facts is false. All Kpop idols are harassed by crazy female fans, it annoys them and they report it when it happens. It is not often at home, where they have strict security measures, rather it is when they travel in hotels.
@@mosaycomusicsource: trust me bro. did exo kill you dog or something. christ, get a grip and piss off. don’t like exo? don’t interact with content about them.
@@mosaycomusic then what abt the video taken by a sasaeng where D.O. can be seen passing by, noticing the camera, looking scared, running away. There is literally a video out there.
There is more Seb, during their Concert in Shanghai the organizers ran away their money, in the opening of the 1st day concert they were told about it, but they chose to continue with the concert eventhough their not getting paid for the fans not to be disappointed, this is why the fans loves them so much, they always return the love back to us. We only found out about the incident when SM ent filed a case against those people and the Cherries (Chinese EXOLs) shared it online (this is why their fandom in china is unbreakable, EXO continued with the performance even though they went on stage without make up), looking back to the concert they performed they still gave their all eventhought they need to buy their food and pay their hotels witht heir own money. That was really sad. So much love, we need to protect them.
I cried A LOT when every member left. I still remember the shock when I heard the news .. kris and luhan. I stan all of SM's groups like Super Junior, SHINee, GG, Fx, EXO .. and believe me that is a lot of pain. SM made me cry more than life did.
They left because they wanted to, it's not SM's fault. There were always a lot of Chinese artists in SM and they haven't complained about being mistreated.
@@mosaycomusic they haven't? Are you new? What about the SUJU? Han Geng? He even filled a lawsuit 💀 Amber and Henry were vocal about their issues with SM too
To be honest, EXO had all the potential to be even bigger than they are, if only they were treated and promoted right. So many amazing offers were rejected maybe because SM thought that going big in the USA would be useless and it's funny that they are pushing their groups to the USA NOW when they've seen that it has its advantages. They have this weird strategy of making their groups popular, waiting till they will get solid fanbase and leaving their future to the fans and their support, instead focusing on the new groups to do the same to them. For the past years it's EXO-Ls who are promoting boys with all their might. It's just frustrating when you know that EXO could be sooo big, they had all the fucking potential, especially around "Monster" era and they could get all the attention they deserve but SM got too relaxed, leaving them without proper promotion and comebacks, thinking that they won't lose their popularity because of how big they were even without those big offers. They wasted EXO's talent and potential just as they did and still do to all their other groups (even tho now they try to promote their newer groups in the USA, they still are not doing it properly and with good enough management). Something just lacks in their way of dealing with their groups' management.
The problem is not SM. Only the supposed fans of the American continent think that they have been mistreated because they are not promoted in the USA. But the reality is that America is not that important, DON'T THINK YOU'RE THE CENTER OF THE WORLD, it's just one more market, if it's possible to explore it... ok that's fine, but it's not necessary. SM has always targeted the Asian continent and surrounding countries, its expansion projects are focused on Indonesia, the Middle East, Central Asia and Australia. They're talking about numbers in excess of 4 billion people and the most important emerging market in the world today, seriously, they don't need the USA. Besides, EXO have been on hiatus as a whole group due to mandatory military service since 2018, in these years there were no concerts or tours for that reason, only the works of the subunits and solo albums have been promoted. This is a fact that many seem to prefer to ignore, but it is the real reason why they don't promote more. However, the members who were out of military service have been very active, because apart from publishing alone, they have participated in OSTs, movies, radio, TV shows, advertising, etc... Their popularity has not been greatly diminished by the hiatus. In Asia, other social networks, streaming platforms and other media are used to promote artists, never believe that UA-cam numbers, for example, are global. Last year 2022 and despite being on pause they have been the group that has had the most income. SM hasn't turned down offers, it's a hoax. I don't think you will ever see this company focused on the US market. It only bothers you that they are not promoted in your continent and that is why you give your opinion emotionally, without reasoning. You are missing a lot of information.
@@mosaycomusic I'm sorry but from where you got the impression that I'm from the USA? 😂 Like... I'm Asian 😐 I can get your point and to this day I'm very glad that they are not as popular in the USA as other groups because it has its negative sides too but seeing how SM tries so hard to push their younger groups into the USA, we can see that they understood that some recognition and popularity from the west won't harm the success of the group. Frankly speaking, no matter how popular EXO is, whenever I look somewhere, I only see BTS and 4th gen groups nowadays and it won't change in the future because the majority of new k-pop stans are not that interested in learning about 3rd gen groups apart from BTS. Leaving the west aside, they are not even properly promoted in their own country and I don't think it's a secret. Fans literally had to buy different types of advertisement for the comebacks to make a big deal out of it. Boys themselves talked about not being treated the same way as they were before and with the fact that NCT units are doing great now with their sales and popularity, it won't get better. They will be getting some comebacks here and there as the other older groups of SM but this groups are there because they still have loyal fans. The thing is... EXO is not like the other groups. They brought back the activeness of stans, they started breaking records when the industry was kinda still at the moment. They had all the potential to be stable, untouchable and successful for a very long time cause they had the biggest and powerful fandom. Like there are so many instances were boys themselves didn't hide their dissappointment and shock with being treated poorly. Their promotions are joke. They could've get so much more and be treated so much better. There are so many things that we all could have point but I, personally, don't want to get into the details in the comment section. There are things that I can discuss only with my fellow EXO-Ls. It's okay if you're okay with SM's management. I'm not and I have the right to complain, if the boys themselves are raising the issues they have.
@@hanasonmi I have not said that you are from the USA, it does not matter what country you are from, you can understand my comment. I explain the context and the real facts. SM has not made any effort to approach the US market with other groups. Experiences have been minimal. Only part of the NCT project is commercially interesting in the West for example. What SM cannot avoid is the demand from the western industry due to the rise of social networks and their reach. But it is legitimate that it refuses to address that market, the holding company to which it belongs knows more than you about the markets and financial interests. And I repeat, EXO is a group on hiatus. A paused group cannot be promoted in the same way as an active group. Everything you think about SM as a company is biased and you are influenced by the infoxication of social networks. You talk about the subject with people who think the same as you, who also suffer from infoxication. You will never get out of that loop unless you accept that the information provided by others, if it is verifiable, is more legitimate than what you find in the rss. It is also important that you learn to differentiate what is 'information' and what is 'opinion'.
@@mosaycomusic I think you might be missing op's points. SM _is_ targeting the US with NCT, Aespa, and especially SuperM. NCT, Aespa and SuperM have been on American talk shows and performed multiple times in the US. Aespa performed at Coachella as a 2-year-old group. SuperM, aespa and NCT have songs in English. They've all toured North America. SM now has an American partner label in Universal. It's increasingly turning its view west. So your argument that SM has never cared about western audiences is untrue. SM _has_ turned down multiple offers made for EXO collaborations with western artists, brands, and companies (I can't remember all of them, but Billboard and Fenty Beauty were both huge opportunities that SM passed on.) Also, they were referring to EXO's promotions as a whole group, both before enlistment and after. EXO has barely promoted or been given performance/dance practice videos like other SM groups. Their solos aren't promoted well either. SM continues to underproduce/not restock their albums despite huge demand and impressive preorder numbers (this has been an issue since DMUMT), and SM's negligence impacts album sales. And that has nothing to do with enlistment. You say you're looking at 'the facts' but you're ignoring a lot of them.
@@nikkiferretti please, don't even reply to her. I really think she's an SME employee, as she justifies SME in every comment section and says that only those who pay SME for membership are EXO-l, all the rest, who love EXO are just random anonymous people. 🤦♀️ Seriously, something's wrong with this person's logic. She calls all the facts a lie and puts the blame on anyone but SME. How convenient! A lot of companies hire people to comment good stuff about them and discredit facts to improve their image. Probly, SME realized how much fans hate them and support the groups no matter which agency they will work under.
6 rolls of kimbap for 12 teenage boys is BRUTAL… and kai mentioned only one would be cheese kimbap or tuna kimbap (im assuming the rest wont have meat in it, so prolly the other rolls would be a veggie, egg, or kimchi kimbap only) and they randomized it like a game just so they wouldn’t have to fight over it😭 he said they’d also give them one to two cans of soda with it and they’d have to share that amongst themselves. This is a big company that already housed successful seniors during those times so i bet it’s not solely just to be cheapskates, but that it’s some sort of sick twisted shit to keep trainees in line and assert control. The only good thing that i noticed with exo out of that though is how humble they have always been. With what they’ve gone through, im not surprised.
This is an anecdote taken out of context. EXO did not go hungry or hardship. It must be remembered that many trainees are minors and SM acts as their guardian. Control measures are justified to some extent because they have to answer to their families. SM does not manipulate her trainees by taking away food, if true the parents would be the first to sue the company.
Also i feel sad whenever sm entertainment rookies are looked as lucky to have a certain leverage over others, esp from smaller lesser known trainees. but what they rarely tell you is that in SM, you would have to fight thousands of people, and about a thousand trainees that get threshed out through competitive monthly evaluations, through all the years you would train. these people chosen to debut have gone through hellish pressure to get to where they are and to have been chosen to debut. The scale is different qs well, so it’s not them having it “easier”
BTS, Exo and Seventeen had to be one of the most messed up and chaotic debuts I have even seen in Kpop. BTS and Exo getting hated on by the public for no good reason. Seventeen almost not debuting before their company went bankrupt and was only able to debut because one of the higher staff sold their house so Seventeen can debut.
This is the reason why we have so much respect, care and love for EXO. Even on their long hiatus we stayed and wait. We are not anymore here to compete but to protect our boys; our home. 🤍
The reason I feel really connected with exo though I never saw them face to face is because when I started to stan them it was the time when kris filled the lawsuit against SM, so I was there basically when all of their good and hard times happened, so when I had my lowest times their music always comforted me, and whenever they had their bad times it's when I felt that I'm there to support them and to be there for them like their music is always there for me
True! I became an EXO-L in 2013 and 2014 was really the worst year, but despite everything we've gone through as fans, the fandom remained solid as ever. I guess EXO and EXOLs found a home in each other.
If only SM agreed and accepted offers from different western agencies and artists from the west, EXO should have been bigger that what they are right now. But because EXO was becoming huge in east Asia esp in China, this agency decided to gatekeep them and wanted EXO to just focus in ASIA, instead. They werent even promoted well in other Asian countries. And Up to current times, after being a very successful group, being the richest Korean act at that, EXO is STILL BEING MISTREATED BY THIER OWN AGENCY. THUS, OTHER ENTITIES SUCH AS AWARD-GIVING BODIES AND KOREAN PRESS PEOPLE GOT THE AUDACITY TO MISTREAT EXO TOO.
SM don't want EXO to be so powerful that they are more powerful than SM itself. But EXO are so powerful anyways. That's why SM hate them, but keep them as the most money-bringing group...
@@mosaycomusic WHY WOULD I LIE? THESE THINGS HAPPENED AND MANY MORE. WE HAVE RECIEPTS. EVEN THE NON FANS KNEW THESE THINGS. Please DO NOT INVALIDATE EXO'S struggles from SM's mistreatment. Enablers like you is one of the reasons why artists are having mental health crisis. AND you seem very active in defending the agency. I dunno how much you're affiliated with them, but let me just say this, if you are from SM, PLEASE GET OUT FROM YOUR BUBBLE AND RE-ASSES YOUR MORALS AND MINDSET.
FYI: SM ENT. refused SO MUCH opportunities for EXO when it comes to promoting THEM in WEST since SM target market are just East and SE Asians countries but EXO became KNOWN all over asia and even became more known outside asia after 2016 with MONSTER ERA. The fact that THEY REJECT “CLEAN BANDIT” that wants to collaborate with EXO around 2016/17 (not that sure about the year but when the band came and have interview in sokor lol?), BILLBOARDS wants them (EXO) to come in U.S. for INTERVIEW and COACHELLA wants them to be part of Coachella 2018 and many more that SME rejects for EXO. THAT'S WHY I DON'T UNDERSTAND KPOP STANS ESPECIALLY FROM A CERTAIN FANDOM THAT EXO NEVER EXPERIENCED SUCH THINGS THAT THEIR FAVS EXPERIENCED BECAUSE THEY'RE FROM BIG COMPANY. I'LL explained ONE OF THE (POSSIBLE) REASON WHY Baekhyun and Taeyeon DATING is so messed up BECAUSE 1) BAEK IS A 2 YEAR OLD IDOL FROM A 2 YR. OLD GROUP 2) TAEYEON IS A SENIOR IDOL FROM A SENIOR GROUP ( DEBUTED 2007) 3) most of the fans hating the girl it's because the FANDOM is still immature that time plus GIRLS GENERATION are on their peak when the dating happened that's why the outrage is so messed up from fans and gp. EXO is i think THE LAST GROUP TO HAVE 10 YEARS CONTRACT OR ALSO KNOWN AS ‘SLAVE CONTRACT’ because after in 2010 korean government pass a bill about this that companies may give their artist a 7 year contract but the FACT that EXO still have it when in fact they debuted in 2012 and IM SURE THEIR CONTRACT about the company before their debut is different because they're still a trainees but why they still have it??? Anyways, The contract ends last year but have rumored that the EXO sign a new contract w the company HOPE SM ENT. TREAT THEM BETTER AND LET THW GROUP AMD MEMBERS DO THEIR OWN THING since they letting their junior groups to do their own thing most of the times. MAMA or MNET have beef with SM ENT. (& YG ENT) for YEARS they blocking any sm groups to be on no. 1 esp back then PLUS the way they blocked ‘GROWL’ to be on top of their charts is INSANE AND CRAZY lmao because ALL KOREANS CHARTS (some of the charts back then are not available anymore) GROWL is on no. 1 but when it comes to their chart the song is on no. 2 that's also why general public have debate whether they blocking exos growl to be on top and plus they had beef with the company. ofc, this BLOCKING are the SAME with other SM ENT. groups (esp 2nd generation). Plus in 2017, MAMA decided to give their AWARDS to other groups IM NOT SAYING THEY DON'T DESERVE IT it's just that IT'S SO unfair that THE FANDOM/FANS VOTED AND WIN IT WITH A BIG GAP AS IN MILLIONS OF GAP but MAMA JUST GIVE THOSE AWARDS TO OTHER GROUPS when literally exo win all the categories they're nominated and plus the fact that they (MAMA) also confiscated EXOLS lighstick THAT TIME to give EXO BLACK OCEAN and SOME EXOLS GOT HURT in MAMA 2017 because EXOLS wants to leave because of what HAPPENED THAT NIGHT but staffs/security guards STOP THEM AND END UP HURTING ALOT OF THEM. *If you want to know what really happened just search (im not sure bout the title of the video) What really happened in Mama 2017* Later On MELON, MNET and Etc.. GOT EXPOSED MANIPULATING EXOS CHARTS AND SALES and THE FACT THAT AFTER THEY GOT EXPOSED they apologize immediately to exo and fans 😃 Yes, ALOT of exols didn't support LAY since they didn't see him more often after 2016 bcs of political tension between TWO COUNTRIES, HE'S DIFFERENT FROM OTHER CHINESE IDOLS THAT'S WHY OTHERS CAN CONTINUE PROMOTING IN SOKOR WITH THEIR GROUP BUT LAY CANT BECAUSE THAT TIME LAY IS ‘AMBASSADOR OF POLITICAL PARTYLIST’ IM NOT SURE IF HE STILL AMBASSADOR BUT IG NOT ANYMORE LOL. Plus EXOs SOLO STANS is the most annoying esp the 3 stans. People ALWAYS something to say about EXO since they don't KNOW ANYTHING about the group and BECAUSE EXO aren't telling us what they been through behind cameras and we still can sense it and see signs and patterns let alone from their company the continuously mistreatment from the group to solo works. *Plus the fact that EXO don't have DOCUMENTARIES when they talked about themselves during trainees and atuff like that andafter debut , struggle, about hates they received, and stardom and etc... because FOR SURE SM ENT AREN'T READY TO BE SUED LMAO because MOST OF THE MEMBERS DON'T KNOW TO FILTER THEIR WORDS AND MOUTHS*
Most of what you say is false, they are rumors and hoaxes on social networks. It's so frustrating that people believe the unverified information on the internet.... You talk about Clean Bandit, Coachella, dating Taeyeon, hiring her as a slave to him, problems with Mnet... you're just speculating, your comment is childish. Hope Sm Ent. It does not exist, it never has existed, it is a hoax. Please, before commenting, try to inform yourself better.
@@mosaycomusic sorry lmao what?? CLEAN BANDIT itself says that, Coachella reach sm for exo to be part of the fest but eventually rejected it. If you're NEW to kpop then stfu. Baek and Teayeon used to date back in the days (2014) for 14 months. MNET and SM have beef over a decades, it's not that serious like physical lol it's just THAT mnet blocking sme groups to not top in their charts esp 2nd gen and exo. You're childish and dumb tbh.
@@mosaycomusicThe one with the Clean Bandit is legit though. As for the issues with Baekhyun dating Taeyeon, we don't know what happened behind the scenes but the hate they both got is real. You can't deny that. As for problems with Mnet, it may be speculation but there are many clues left out all over the years and EXO-Ls have always been monitoring votes in award shows to make sure EXO wins. And there are many sites verifying that many Award Shows indeed sabotaged EXO in order for them to not be nominated or win any awards. Before you deny the claims, please look them up first.
First i would love to thank you Sebastian for reacting to this + to open your eyes more about exo struggles I would like to suggest to "exo vs mama what went wrong " That will show you why sm stopped bringing there artist to mama shows ND it'll show how the disrespect exo and exoil as a normal human being you will mind blowing up
i agree. i don't know why there are people who hates a group/artist so much when they don't even know them personally. this is an unpopular opinion but sm does what they can for their artists. a lot of these entertainment companies have their pros/cons. sm sucks in so many ways just like the other companies. my only take here is i hope EXO will have their own label like Super Junior so that they can have more control to their activities. they deserve so much more
I'm an EXO-L since 2012 and I saw all of it happen. That's why EXO-L's are the strongest fandom, they have been through a lot but they still stand firm, and look at them now they are still the Legendary EXO we have known for decade
@@mosaycomusic no but we've been in the fandom for so long we've alr seen both their ups and downs IN GENERAL SENSE and i think that's what she's referring to. we don't have to live in korea just to see how much they've struggled all these years cause we've seen it as we fangirled over them and that's why we appreciate them even more
It is better that you do not recommend the videos that circulate on UA-cam because they do not tell anything more than nonsense, rumors and hoaxes. Teenagers believe everything they see, often because they are immature, but for an adult to do so is absurd.
My, I remember during rookie era, one of the fans managed to photograph a glimpse of Kai's back as he lifted his jacket to adjust his microphone or whatever the device on their hip is called... It was covered with salonpas. Legit, dozens of them across his skin, patched together neatly like bandages. And that's *debut* era. He accumulated many more later on
You know it’s bad when your own company treats you bad. And I can’t say I’m surprised because it’s SM. They treat all their boy groups like just an experimental group even when they are popular they still treat them poorly. And now with the news of Baekhyun, Chen and Xuimin terminating their slave contracts it’s just confirming what everyone already knew that SM doesn’t care about these boys just about money and that’s why so many end up leaving and suing them.
I just think of how much more they would rule the music industry worldwide if they had a company that actually put forth the time, energy, & effort they deserve…I hope that makes sense. They are amazing, and the reason I got into K-Pop so long ago. Yet, just looking at the opportunities & offers that got turned.
@@mosaycomusic I believe you misunderstood what I wrote…I believe they are well known in the music industry worldwide. The US is not worldwide, and their musical impact is worldwide. Everyone benefits from true support, and their company supporting their musical ventures & beyond would allow them to rule even more than they already do worldwide.
@@SnuggleBunny. Your company only thinks about its expansion, they want to dominate the entire Asian continent, the Middle East and Australia. The next step will be the countries of its Eurasian environment. The African and American continents are not their objective, at least for now. Remember that there are more millions of people in the rest of the world than in the American continent.
@@mosaycomusic What is "my company"? I can only gather English is not your first language. I have written "worldwide" numerous times, and have also written the US is not worldwide. You continue to assume I am speaking about the US, but I am speaking about the world/global. You are agreeing with me, but you do not even realize it.
Thank you for reacting to this video. Actually we're always sad about the shts mfing sm entertainment does But we can't help but calm down and instead support exo more and more I hope one day that trash praise and promote the kings as they truly deserve
New kpop stan don't have an idea how EXO struggle before. And they always compared EXO to their fave and called EXO as flop. Your faves have a freedom to do a things they want and promote in western in EXO while EXO already invite to promote in western but their company refused. If EXO already promote in western do you think your faves became famous like they are now? Just use a sense before attacked EXO.
Sebastine .. love your reaction and I agree with you!! They received so many hate That’s why they stopped participating in the award ceremonies!! They love their fans so much, they don’t want to put them in a difficult situation… But even so, their effort has paid off because they did not allow anyone, even the company, to discourage them from achieving their goal. It’s not for nothing that they are called the King Vocals, they have records that have not yet been knocked down.. they are the best despite everything, they became great people and wonderful honest professionals..❤ BTW 23:10 is BTS 😂😅❤
There are more behind the curtains. And imagine you witnessed all these through years and I don't know how many times I cried because I couldn't do anything to protect my boys. Golden Disc Awards changed their rules last minute just not to give main award to EXO in 2018 for example. There are soooo many mistreatments that if I write them here, those will be pages long believe me. I am heartbroken all over again.
Really hope Suho would go all the way building his own company to promote EXO. The guys could have been even bigger than they are today if they were just promoted well.
Se que todos lo grupos tienen su historia, pero Exo tiene un lugar muy especial en mi corazón, tiene todo mi respeto, admiración y amor soy Exol y he visto muchos cosas que no me han gustado, pero estaré ahí apoyándolos a cada uno simplemente los amo
They were 12, now i don’t even know How much they are + everytime a member is missing they had like 6 comeback in their carrer of group.. SM really treated them like shit
I already made a reply to one comment here but I will add 2 more. Suho, recently opening up about lack of freedom for EXO members to hang out freely FOR FREAKING 8 YEARS. They needed to ask permission from SM staff & managers before they went on vacation that came to them very very rare. Not even once in a year and they can't even use it as much as they wanted. 8 FREAKING YEARS. They allowed to use their phones only when they were on schedule like touring, filming, recording etc. They weren't allowed to do anything else beside that outside of their schedule. So when they had a break, in their dorms, personal stuff... no matter what circumtances were NO PHONES WERE ALLOWED. Only after they 4th anniversary EXO can use their phones, with their own managers monitoring their activity.
Damn, I remember the early debut days... People ridiculed MAMA and EXO's powers so hard. EXO's (and B.A.P) group concept was something unheard of in kpop before: calling themselves aliens, having superpowers, a plot, etc. But EXO is from SM, so expectations were high. Their debut stage was considered a failure. The voices cracked, the boys obviously nervous as hell. They got ridiculed even more because of that, though looking back, they actually did very well: it was obvious that they were singing LIVE smh! MAMA was a very hard song to debut to, and even now, not many are brave enough to carry out the full song live while dancing! But the image was already bad. EXO then had to promote in small places, like schools and parks. Not many know of them. And even critics don't only come from outside. There was fandom infighting as well. Kai was the most hated member at that time because he was the face and SM promoted him relentlessly to make people remember at least 1 face of the group. Then, there's infighting between EXO-K fans and EXO-M fans, debating which sub-unit is better. It was a huge mess. Even the journey to the first album was hard. There were leaked audios of future songs, like Wolf. Omg, it was so bad and they got ridiculed again for it. Thank god the end result was actually much better. The leaked ver was probably just the members playing around. When the 1st album came out, it was amazing. A lot of people said it's the first time they liked all the songs (or at least most songs) in an album. Opinions on EXO rose exponentially. It's why the XOXO album will always have a special place in my heart. Not that everything is sunshine and rainbows during that promotion. The members worked very hard despite being sick and/or injured. They're not allowed much rest. They didn't dare to rest. I felt bad for them at that time, but now that I'm older, looking back, it was quite terrifying how they keep pushing on despite various injuries. I was hurt then, but now I really don't blame the members who escaped.
There’s still so much more than that, it won’t fit in one video. Being with EXO since 2012 and having to witness all of those mistreatments is so hard for me, how much more for them. That’s why I’m coming at anyone who harms EXO 🤺🤺
SM Entertainment does not promote. You are on your own, next. EXO, a petri dish. The amount of money they've made that label... their contract deal... injuries for their artistry... and still no respect. No respect from those who claim to be EXO-L's... the hate for individual members... We Are One out the window when times get rough... The SUPERM Purge. But when and if the day comes when OT9 joins forces again everyone will run and act like they were always present. True EXO-L's never run... stan to the death.
@@mosaycomusic Misinformed about the exact amount they've contributed to the label to erect buildings like BoA and then some. Misinformed experiment on how the petri dish, the controlled environment of collaborations work... how variables are decided. Misinformed to which fans dislike which members from injuries to just personal distaste. Misinformed of the aggravation, frustration, and nonsense that leads to purges. No... you can keep your Misinformed.
@@remixedv It's bad information when your main sources are social media and tabloids. You can accumulate a lot of false information without knowing it.
SM Entertainment is a terrible management co. Think of all the money they have made off the backs of this group and then look at the treatment this group received 🤬
I was an EXO-L from Growl era then unstan them for a while. There was a time when I really hate EXO-L because of how toxic the fandom was. But tbh, I have to admit that EXO-L is one of the most loyal fandom that I know imo.
I also hated the the toxic exols but stayed for exo Now I noticed that exols aren't as toxic as they used to be I guess we matured even when other Fandom start dragging exo we mostly ignore them
Its what we have been saying. Exo could have been so much bigger but because of that company they were held back and suppressed. Let's pray for better days for our guys..
Considering the lack of food, sleep, and promotion by SM, how did they perform with so much enthusiasm and professionalism? I can only imagine that they relied on their own confidence and other members. I’ve heard other SM groups talk about how EXO built SMs new huge building, but this group built a bathroom, and that group built a door!😂. One would think that with the income EXO generated their company would have been more supportive. Maybe Lee So Min or whoever the CEO is, was fearful that EXO would make extreme demands if they were too successful. I heard someone from Super Junior say that their group SJ even made it so that members could have stake in the company. Anyone else know anything about that? I’m so looking forward to them becoming a group of 9 again. Or at least 8 as I understand that Lay has conflicts. I’ve only been following Kpop and EXO for about four years, so I really am grateful for those early EXO Ls supporting them. Ps. I hope you were able to lower your blood pressure. Just think what EXO has done even with all the negativity. No excuse for toxic “fans” and SM’s behavior. But this group was designed to succeed!!
I would like to add and while it's not related to EXO specifically it is related to Baekhyun. Maybe it was mentioned here if it was i missed it but either way... Baekhyun is the Leader of SuperM and when the group was formed Lee Soo Man(CEO of SM) made a group chat and told the idols to give their thoughts and ideas for SuperM going forward. Baekhyun did just that and was then scolded by Lee Soo Man on the phone for 3 hours. Baekhyun had ordered dinner before he gotten the call and it was delivered and cold by the time the conversation ended and he was able to get off the phone.
I’m sorry but 2012 music was fire. Clarity by Zedd was on blast 24/7 and tell me that ain’t one of the most nostalgic feel good songs of the early 2010’s
Xiumin wasnt the only one forced on an extreme diet. Baekhyun was too. It’s most prevalent how bad it was during the Lotto era he looked like a skeleton and would often faint during rehearsals and almost fainted multiple times doing performances. Idol diets are scary
They were not bound by contract, it is Korean society and its high beauty standards that lead young people to develop bad eating habits that can put their health at risk. It's a social problem, it's not a Kpop problem.
@@mosaycomusic it’s both. It wouldn’t have gotten so bad if “fans” weren’t commenting about how “fat” he was Even so idols are held to a higher standard in every way so no, it IS a kpop problem
@@penelopewindsor9418 Remember that in SM there are other artists who are overweight... and nothing happens. Being thin is a personal choice, you can always ignore what social media says. Your opinion is biased.
EXO is my Ult group but even I didn’t know about all of this. I just assume idols are mistreated by their companies and saesangs. It’s still sad to see. It’s almost like SM prohibited them from being what BTS is now, and yet they want to complain about Hybe’s success as if they didn’t refuse nearly every western promotion that came their way. BTS’s success is well deserved don’t get me wrong but it feels so weird to feel like your favorite group - one of the most popular groups in the Korea - is underrated. They aren’t by any means it just feels like the love they should be getting is disproportionate to the amount that they receive. I genuinely don’t know too many hardcore EXO fans online or IRL. Of course preference is involved but it still feels like they’re kind of swept under the rug despite practically everyone acknowledging that these mf’s are skilled. And seeing them perform in America seems like a distant fantasy. I don’t really understand how slightly less popular groups are more tangible as far as tours go than EXO, given their status.
the shit the ex exos went through was so crazy. like how is sm going to forbid kris from taking medication for his HEART CONDITION???? could have KILLED the man. had fucking tao dancing on broken limbs and in the training room the day after leaving the hospital in a wheelchair, like???? Absolutely insane
there's even much more T^T in 2021 their comeback Don't fight the feeling had 0 promo! Nada, dust! SM just dropped the links and that was it...and they sold more than 1m copies again...the f audacity of this trash company.. anyway ty for reacting to this
In 2021 they released a special album just before two members enlisted in the army, at that time there were two other members absent, besides Lay. They promoted the EP on all TV shows, radio etc... having five inactive members. What do you want them to promote if they are in the army? There are many absurd comments in this video, yours is one of them.
@@mosaycomusic they promoted what??? exos talking about DFTF? maybe, but actual promo from SM...hell no i need your buttlicker SM apologist axx out of my mentions.... you have to be kidding me
U know what, what i want to say, im exo-l, and i want to say this to my fav. Group Exo, why??? Not have to plan to switch the company, go to company was best on ur group U know what i mean
It’s time for them to sign up with a different company or just make their own company. Together they have enough money to make a new label for themselves.
They have renewed their exclusive contracts because they are happy with the company, they are millionaires, they don't complain at all. Do not believe the hoaxes that are viralized on the internet by anonymous people.
Food and phones is not a mistreatment. Y'all should stop blaming the company cause it happened to all idols back then. No phone is a rules. For the food, sm did buying them but in a low quantity. Reasons 1, diet & weight. 2, they can't afford to change the size of their outfits. Yes SM is a big company but did y'all know that since 1997-2015, South Korea was having a currency crisis? Won hits the weakest value starting may 2010 - 7 September 2015 which means, more Korean peoples started to starving until there's only 1 meal/day. Did y'all get it? If most of you /exol here blaming sm and y'all from western,europe etc, then y'all should be thankful cause your country never faces the same situation. Phones is unnecessary 24/7 cause they don't have social media to updated fans about them. They did so much sacrifice to be known and to introduce kpop in the world. That's why old gen fans always attacking newest fans who talked proudly about their idols and degrading old gen idols. Yes, They did compared their early trainee and idols day in term of how world was changed to be more easy and better now.
Becoming an idol is not an easy option in life. Would-be idols have to pay for their own training, live up to very strict expectations in appearance and behaviour, and most never even make it. Most just end up in dept. Of those that do debut, very few become big. There are hundreds of Kpop bands. Even so, so many still try. Companies like the SM have a huge pool to choose from as to debut with them gives groups a kick start. You have to be their idea of perfect for whatever role they require at the time and you have to maintain it. Their first years are paying back depts. Even if you debut, if you don't have longevity, you still may not make much money. And it's not just the companies. They are idols not pop stars, reflecting the fans expectation that they will be perfect role models. The slightest rumour can ruin a career overnight. Given all this, it is hard to believe anyone would put themselves through it. Thank god EXO did. We are eternally grateful for all they have been through while staying strong and positive. They have our greatest respect and love.
@@oublie-moi bothered? Not in the slightest. I was merely asking since the timing seemed off to me. Back then, I thought he didn't find their music appealing. Bizarrement, now he's showing great interest so i was wondering why. On the other hand, I don't get why would you care 🤷♀️ plus, that skull emoji was uncalled for little miss/sir.
I saw a comment about this video being misleading. I partially agree with that. There are a lot more serious things done by SM. Most of the video is just some non-very mature commentary without actual and true, more important facts. I feel like there could be done a better job in providing an informative video instead of a school presentation type of a thing. All the childish stuff apart, we all are upset and angry with SM mainly because of EXO's lack of promotion, problems with providing album restocks which led to them having lower sales (this problem occurred many times), global tours without actually including various parts of the world which led to EXO thinking that they are not very popular outside of Asia and then getting surprised knowing how popular they actually were, rejection of big offers and opportunities. They just f-ed up EXO's potential. And from the recent interviews of the boys, I feel like SM made sure boys believe that they weren't/aren't that popular and should be happy with whatever they are given. I have this weird feeling that they always tried to have EXO's popularity and power under control so that they would remain the ones dictating the rules. Considering the fact that EXO's success brought so much to SM (they literally bought a huge ass building with only the success of "Growl"), I never felt that they were appreciated and cherished by the company the way they should've been as the main providers for many years even after new groups were there for years. I don't want to comment on the rest about food and stuff, as I'm not a fan since debut and can't talk on their behalf but I've noticed that it's quiet the same for many groups in the beginning of their career. A lot of them had limited amount and type of food, I guess companies were not very keen on spending too much money on trainees or newbies till they would see them getting successful.
Please, stop reacting to these types of videos that only misinform. It is shameful that such manipulative videos are given publicity and credibility. The creator of the video, presumably, is a schoolboy who has never posted anything interesting on UA-cam. He just edits TikTok shorts by adding robotic voices. All that counts is unsubstantiated information that comes from social networks, thanks to anonymous characters like this many people believe that EXO has suffered mistreatment and abuse by his company. It's so ridiculous. EXO members have renewed their contracts more than once with SM, the same goes for the rest of the company's artists. All agencies have artists who decide to terminate the contract, for various reasons: economic, personal interests, etc... But this does not mean that the company mistreats them. The South Korean recording industry is not very different from the rest of the world, the only difference is its learning system, which is very similar to sports training, such as the youth teams of soccer teams. EXO shared an apartment in one of the prime areas of Seoul and the agency took care of their expenses. The monthly rent for the apartment alone was around $2,000. The false story that went viral about his lack of food and other nonsense has been debunked countless times by the country's serious media. Only the tabloids and the rss were dedicated to publishing these falsehoods, on many occasions the videos were even subtitled wrong on purpose so that the lies were believable. EXO's anti-fans also viralized these 'junk news' for more than obvious reasons. Beauty standards in South Korea are not limited to Kpop, the whole Korean society thinks the same and it is very common for people to undergo diets and cosmetic operations even if they work as office workers. On the other hand, the Korean idiosyncrasy inherited from Confucianism is the key, they value effort above anything else, they consider it honorable, so the more effort, the more honored they feel. When EXO members bring up anecdotes from their early days, they're not criticizing, they're bragging about their efforts. You have to put yourself in the shoes of others and not criticize cultures that do not understand each other, accusing them of slavery. In South Korea no one thinks that SM is an abusive company, it's just an idea that was spread by the West, more specifically in the American continent. There is no real evidence, it is all manipulations and fake videos created by anonymous people. EXO's fandom is solid, what a minority of crazy female fans do on social media is irrelevant, the company knows it and the group members know it. For example, the fans who appear in the images criticizing Chen were barely 20 people, but the tabloids magnified and viralized this absurd fact. The Chinese members who left EXO were never able to prove the allegations of mistreatment etc, however, in the trials it was shown that they were developing their careers in China behind the back of the company, they were breaking their contract and this led to harsh penalties. SM chose not to sue them financially as long as they continued their contract to the end, and they did. They stopped being part of SM in 2022. EXO-K and EXO-M were not sub-units, they were two vocal formations to sing the Korean or Mandarin versions of the songs, they always sang the same songs. In the concerts, presentations and promotional videos ALL the members ALWAYS appear. When there were 12 members it was easy to dedicate 6 of them to sing in a different language, after the departure of 3, with an odd number they left the strategy aside because it was not necessary although they continued to include songs in Mandarin in the albums. It must be taken into account that the subunits of a group have independent discography, as is the case today with EXO-CBX and EXO-SC. EXO didn't merge because they were never divided into two different groups. The decision to present two versions of the songs was a strategy to address the Chinese market that was beginning to open up to Kpop at that time. SM was trying to expand in Asia as much as possible, for the same reason EXO has also published in Japanese. About the BIG3, they were called that at the beginning of Kpop in the 00's and late 90's, but when EXO debuted all those companies were already part of larger corporations where the original agencies were located and many others that were born later. Since the late 00's most agencies belong to a holding company, they have the same local and foreign shareholders. Smaller agencies are often subsidiaries of larger ones. They are no longer BIG3, they are 'BIG many' although their corporate seal remains the same.
All that typing and You just made all that up 💀 starting off with EXO re-signing with SM more than once when it is widely known that EXO are the last group in the industry tied to a 10 year slave contract and are JUST now going on their 11th year. pink bloods need psychiatric help istg. yall hate EXO so much you would defend a notoriously nasty company like SM to minimize all they've been through.
Well then, why did they file a lawsuit n called it a 'slave contract'? I don't think that u would be able to say this now that the recent situations look totally opp.
@@trijakamei6819 When you want to cancel a commercial contract unilaterally and both parties cannot agree, it is a judge who ends that commercial relationship, which is why it is necessary to file a lawsuit. The plaintiffs allege all kinds of things to avoid economic sanctions, they can exaggerate and even lie, it is in the trial where the accusations must be proven. In the case of the EXO members, they did not prove anything. The tabloids published the rumors and lies because those news sell more.
I also would like to add: UA-cam red wanted to do a series on exo but sm refused. Clean bandit wanted to collab w them but sm also refused. Exo got invited by billboard for an interview, sm refused. They got invited to coachella, also refused.
????? Oh my god... What does SM have against EXO 😭
@@penguin_forest EVERYTHING
Everything you say is false.
@@penguin_forest Nothing, they are your spoiled children. What is said is false.
@@libbykaras don't lie please.
We gonna protect our babies no matter what anyone says..EXO is important to us..
WE ARE ONE ❤️
EXO-L put the same avatar for Baekhyun, he will come back to us in two days, we will surprise him with the avatar
I'm an exol since 2013 and I can't count how many times they mistreatment by sm... We've been really hard times that I still can't forget about. EXO is one of most successful and most humble group I've ever seen... I love ma precious boys
What a joke EXO is the one got so much privilege including best music they gave to exo even bside..
@@fightwoman lol no they aren’t, if they really are privilege, exo members shouldn’t really said those things they’re getting through of mistreatment. It’s hard to believe yes but kpop industry are darker than you think
I can deduce that you are lying even though you claim that you are 'EXO-L' since 2013. If you were really an official fan you would never claim that they were mistreated. You are an anonymous user with a recent UA-cam account.
@@Hopedeeznutz You don't know anything about the Kpop industry, you just repeat what you've seen on social media and some sensational documentary.
@@mosaycomusic oh really, do you really think all of the exo members is lying? Do you really think luhan and tao left for no reason? Do you really think being an exo-l needs to paid to sm to be on official fandom? What a total bs.
You shouldn’t waste your time for writing bs and just stream your favs
Thanks for the reaction!!!
EXO-Ls won the title of the strongest fandom, and that’s why.
Be and support EXO no matter what.
There are many bad “EXO-Ls”. Most recently they are asking to Chen and Chanyeol leave the group. It’s make me really mad.
If you know how much EXO love Exo-L, they suffered a lot to be there with the fans.
SM don’t deserve EXO. They would be bigger, because all we know that EXO is a very very talented group
The problem is that many fans consider themselves EXO-L but they are not, you can only be EXO-L if you belong to the official fandom, only if you are registered in SM ent as a fan. All official fandoms are registered within their respective record labels.
It's different being a fan of EXO's music than belonging to EXO-L.
An anonymous user saying that he is EXO-L is not legitimate, nor is what he says credible.
@@mosaycomusic omg, stop promoting SM. Are you a fan of SME???? Shoot! You want to alienate fans from EXO? Are you anti? Or just ignorant? Instead of attracting more and more people to love EXO's music you just cut the people who are deeply devoted to EXO just because they don't pay money to SME for membership??? Do you know that EXO are loved in countries like Iran, Brazil and many others who only care for EXO not some stupid ceremonies to be accepted as EXO-L. Are you SME marketing department employee? A lot of people don't even have an opportunity to spend money on any membership or their bank card isn't accepted internationally. I'm just beyond words at this point by how narrow-minded people can be. 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
@@mosaycomusic what a BS! ive been an EXOL ACE for years , but i did not have to, I just signed up for perks. ANYONE CAN BE AN EXOL as long as you're supporting them and loving their music. You can be called an EXOL even if you do not have merch, or havent registered to any official sites. YOU CAN BE AN EXOL JUST BY LOVING THE GROUP.
You've been gaslighting EXO fans in here acting like you're LSM and now you audaciously misinform them?!
@@rkdo9554 Don't try to disrespect me. I repeat what was said above. I'm not a fan, I'm a musicologist. You are discussing matters that have to do with my profession. The previous comment is true. An EXO music lover is not an EXO-L, if you are not registered in the official fandom you are not EXO-L. I'm sorry to bother you but the truth sometimes hurts.
@@mosaycomusic no one's disrespecting you, you on the other hand are disrespecting fans and the group. What you are doing is gaslighting and invalidating the struggles the group and fans are experiencing due to the decisions of the agency. You are brushing off the mistreatments towards the group and fans who first hand experienced the stuff that have been mentioned in the video. You may be a musicologist, but you were not the one who witnessed the struggles of the artists who seek emotional support from fans everytime they struggle. Have you watched all interviews of these artists validating mistreatments for you to tell us that what we are saying are just utter lies?!
exo was invited at COACHELLA but sm declined exo was invited to interviewed by Billboard sm rejected, exo was asked to film documentary by UA-cam sm rejected it, exo was asked for a many many collaborations by famous western artists but exo rejected… theres just so many more and they never had a world tour is just insane
theyre one of the few groups who has never stepped foot in the US and doesnt have US label when theyre one of the most popular group
What really? Exo being so huge and had no world tour?? I'm baffled 😮
there are Exo members in Super M and they do
They don’t have an American label is accurate but “Has never set foot in the US” isn’t exactly true. They performed at LA KCon multiple times, first exo-m then the whole group. And they’ve had at least two what were called world tours at the time where they toured most of Asia, and had multiple US stops. They’ve done variety show promotions here, they’ve filmed MVs here. And recently Kai and Chen went to Europe and Australia for kpop festivals. Exo has undergone hardships, but we do them no favors forgetting their achievements too.
@@MsKaz1000 it's different lmao SUPERM is a group project of SM and western label forgot the name (Capitol??) anyways, EXO ain't benefited in ANY superm stuffs since SUPERM promotions is more likely just for other group promotion (nct) since EXO and KaiBaek are ALREADY FAMOUS AND HAVE FANBASES in West even before the kpop became big even more and Shinee and also Taemin also have fanbases there so it's interesting when someone will say that SUPERM benefits THE OLDER GROUPS to be known (in west) when in FACT the TWO GROUPS are already have fanbases there and MOSTLY superm stans are from NCT FANDOM and the new ones are also from other groups stans (outside sme groups) and some of them are solo stans.
@@MsKaz1000 SuperM is dead
I know every kpop group has a story before becoming famous but what makes me love EXO more is even though some members left and wasn't sure back then if they would be disbanded they stood strong and gave it their all still..up to this day. Yes they became famous and received many awards even when they just started back then but they remained humble and works hard for their fans.
I just pray that they all find someone that they can love and be comfortable with like Chen and find peace in their chaotic world. They went through too much stuff for such a humble group, I heard in the beginning they even got paid with rice at one event😔
What did they pay you with rice? LOL
@@mosaycomusic 😂😂I remember seeing D.O clutching his bag of rice while leaving😂
I'm an Army being said that I always admired Exo members of how talented they are and wondered why couldn't they penetrate global market despite having all abilities.. Now I clearly see why.. I also wondered why don't they write and produce their own songs which would showcase their creative thinking rather than company made concepts and music.. Later realized they were treated like puppets with no freedom😟.. It's just sad that so much could have been done with such explosive talent and the world never got to see
Who said they don’t write and produced their music ? All of lay solo is his work, Exo sc Chanyeol and Sehun work, many Exo songs lyrics was written by Exo members
Oh I'm not aware of that then.. I said that because I don't see any of them in KOMCA Credits top 100(songwriting credits) except for Lay in 60th position (53songs..i just checked it out again)like u said from his solo stuff and when he actively worked as exo...
@@saraa271 Exo sc have Comca certificate for all their songs ) Suho wrote lyrics to his songs too and Chen
@@ahilesahilesov2112 Oh I See.. Probably the number of songs written by them is less then 34 i.e 100th position that's why I couldn't see in top100.. I wish when they comeback again hope to see more extensive participation 😊😊
@@saraa271 they are Sm group ) it’s not that easy as u think lmao ) Sm is strict company
There is a video about how they get mistrited in mama 2017 and why they don't attend award shows bcz that year they where at top in all categories but at the last moment the votes get deleted and others grp take the win , you absolutely should check that video you will understand more , we love exo and we always support them
their votes weren't deleted, the show just decided to give the award to someone else instead. this show rarely ever tries to justify their decisions
That year BTS won because they had more streams and points. The audio tape of the company employee explaining it to the fan is still out there. Exo has faced adversities but this wasn't one of them. They literally sweeped that award shows for years so there was no bias against them.
@@babbes4210 well BTS was getting famous in the west , Music industry is like that , they are not loyal to anyone , it doesn't matter whether EXO getting the awards for years or not , if they saw a better opportunity they will shift to that opportunity for a bigger audience. The Category requirements added in the last minute just so that they could give the award to BTS, don't you think in 2016, EXO-L wouldn't fill all the requirements needed to win (especially EXO-L known to be do everything to make EXO win that time)Like Mama made a rule that one group can't take all the awards during 2017 but I remember BTS taking all the awards for many years, (not blaming BTS but this is how the industry works, they will take opportunities and give opportunities by their own terms, and make rules to benefit themselves, a group can benefit from it for few years but will change the moment they saw a hope of bigger opportunities)
It is better that you do not recommend the videos that circulate on UA-cam because they do not tell anything more than nonsense, rumors and hoaxes. Teenagers believe everything they see, often because they are immature, but for an adult to do so is absurd.
@@SadiaIslamShouki Do not forget that the prizes are awarded by the same industry that promotes the artists, there are business interests that fans do not understand.
Finally
SM is literally EXO's biggest obstacle
If they were unhappy with SM they would have left the company long ago. They are not children, they are adults and millionaires.
@@mosaycomusic this is easier said then done.....you don't know what's in their contract. If it was that easy, they would've ended it for sure.
@@mosaycomusic have u not seen how bad it went for luhan, kris, and tao when they left? you kept commenting these stuff like an sm bootlicker, claiming to be more knowledgable and discrediting long time fans because of your superiority complex.
if you don't like this content then ignore and go do something else.
That's why I really love EXO...they have been get many mistreated from inside and outside. They worked so hard to be in their place right now and still survive. We will always support EXO and protect them.
That story of suffering and struggle seems copied from another fandom...
EXO have never been mistreated, they are happy with their company and have renewed their contracts more than once.
@@mosaycomusic Kebanyakan halu ini org
@@mosaycomusicDid you even attempt to watch the video? It literally listed several incidents where they were mistreated.
@@mosaycomusicHa they literally filed a lawsuit bc of the mistreatment.
@@trijakamei6819 No, they filed a lawsuit for contract resolution. This was not a case of workplace violence because they were not employees.
And this is why fans are very protective of EXO. They deserve good things in this world. Thank you for the reaction, Seb!
Finally you gonna understand a lot of things spiacially the fact that exo are the best but it's okay they still legends 🔥🔥
Lmfao. The best what?
@@ds-zd9qz Vocalists, but overall one of the best kpop groups undoubtedly.
@@ds-zd9qz the best as a grp as a musician as a lot of things , i respect all the grps and Stan all of them but the music that exo gives is rare and different
@@rihebrahouba9567 say it LOUDERRR girl
Why we can’t just learn about other groups without having to make it a competition.
The fact that saesangs broke into the dorm and stole D.O.'s underwear. And that severely changed his comfort level with fans, and even his personality to a certain extent. It's seriously messed up. The amount of abuse EXO has taken from saesangs is, quite frankly, underreported and not talked about enough when the topic of saesangs comes up.
That never happened, it was a hoax on social media. An anonymous supposed fan said that she had stolen underwear from her room and intended to sell it but the announcement of her disappeared a short time later and she was never mentioned again. The story that D.O. changed his personality because of these facts is false. All Kpop idols are harassed by crazy female fans, it annoys them and they report it when it happens. It is not often at home, where they have strict security measures, rather it is when they travel in hotels.
@@mosaycomusicsource: trust me bro.
did exo kill you dog or something. christ, get a grip and piss off. don’t like exo? don’t interact with content about them.
@@mosaycomusic then what abt the video taken by a sasaeng where D.O. can be seen passing by, noticing the camera, looking scared, running away. There is literally a video out there.
@@trijakamei6819 Yes, there are shorts of just about anything, and the most crazy interpretations of the videos...
Its crazy how successful they are with literally back support from their own company
There is more Seb, during their
Concert in Shanghai the organizers ran away their money, in the opening of the 1st day concert they were told about it, but they chose to continue with the concert eventhough their not getting paid for the fans not to be disappointed, this is why the fans loves them so much, they always return the love back to us. We only found out about the incident when SM ent filed a case against those people and the Cherries (Chinese EXOLs) shared it online (this is why their fandom in china is unbreakable, EXO continued with the performance even though they went on stage without make up), looking back to the concert they performed they still gave their all eventhought they need to buy their food and pay their hotels witht heir own money. That was really sad. So much love, we need to protect them.
I cried A LOT when every member left. I still remember the shock when I heard the news .. kris and luhan. I stan all of SM's groups like Super Junior, SHINee, GG, Fx, EXO .. and believe me that is a lot of pain. SM made me cry more than life did.
They left because they wanted to, it's not SM's fault. There were always a lot of Chinese artists in SM and they haven't complained about being mistreated.
@@mosaycomusic they haven't? Are you new? What about the SUJU? Han Geng? He even filled a lawsuit 💀 Amber and Henry were vocal about their issues with SM too
To be honest, EXO had all the potential to be even bigger than they are, if only they were treated and promoted right. So many amazing offers were rejected maybe because SM thought that going big in the USA would be useless and it's funny that they are pushing their groups to the USA NOW when they've seen that it has its advantages. They have this weird strategy of making their groups popular, waiting till they will get solid fanbase and leaving their future to the fans and their support, instead focusing on the new groups to do the same to them. For the past years it's EXO-Ls who are promoting boys with all their might. It's just frustrating when you know that EXO could be sooo big, they had all the fucking potential, especially around "Monster" era and they could get all the attention they deserve but SM got too relaxed, leaving them without proper promotion and comebacks, thinking that they won't lose their popularity because of how big they were even without those big offers. They wasted EXO's talent and potential just as they did and still do to all their other groups (even tho now they try to promote their newer groups in the USA, they still are not doing it properly and with good enough management). Something just lacks in their way of dealing with their groups' management.
The problem is not SM. Only the supposed fans of the American continent think that they have been mistreated because they are not promoted in the USA. But the reality is that America is not that important, DON'T THINK YOU'RE THE CENTER OF THE WORLD, it's just one more market, if it's possible to explore it... ok that's fine, but it's not necessary. SM has always targeted the Asian continent and surrounding countries, its expansion projects are focused on Indonesia, the Middle East, Central Asia and Australia. They're talking about numbers in excess of 4 billion people and the most important emerging market in the world today, seriously, they don't need the USA.
Besides, EXO have been on hiatus as a whole group due to mandatory military service since 2018, in these years there were no concerts or tours for that reason, only the works of the subunits and solo albums have been promoted. This is a fact that many seem to prefer to ignore, but it is the real reason why they don't promote more. However, the members who were out of military service have been very active, because apart from publishing alone, they have participated in OSTs, movies, radio, TV shows, advertising, etc... Their popularity has not been greatly diminished by the hiatus.
In Asia, other social networks, streaming platforms and other media are used to promote artists, never believe that UA-cam numbers, for example, are global.
Last year 2022 and despite being on pause they have been the group that has had the most income.
SM hasn't turned down offers, it's a hoax.
I don't think you will ever see this company focused on the US market.
It only bothers you that they are not promoted in your continent and that is why you give your opinion emotionally, without reasoning. You are missing a lot of information.
@@mosaycomusic I'm sorry but from where you got the impression that I'm from the USA? 😂 Like... I'm Asian 😐 I can get your point and to this day I'm very glad that they are not as popular in the USA as other groups because it has its negative sides too but seeing how SM tries so hard to push their younger groups into the USA, we can see that they understood that some recognition and popularity from the west won't harm the success of the group. Frankly speaking, no matter how popular EXO is, whenever I look somewhere, I only see BTS and 4th gen groups nowadays and it won't change in the future because the majority of new k-pop stans are not that interested in learning about 3rd gen groups apart from BTS. Leaving the west aside, they are not even properly promoted in their own country and I don't think it's a secret. Fans literally had to buy different types of advertisement for the comebacks to make a big deal out of it. Boys themselves talked about not being treated the same way as they were before and with the fact that NCT units are doing great now with their sales and popularity, it won't get better. They will be getting some comebacks here and there as the other older groups of SM but this groups are there because they still have loyal fans. The thing is... EXO is not like the other groups. They brought back the activeness of stans, they started breaking records when the industry was kinda still at the moment. They had all the potential to be stable, untouchable and successful for a very long time cause they had the biggest and powerful fandom. Like there are so many instances were boys themselves didn't hide their dissappointment and shock with being treated poorly. Their promotions are joke. They could've get so much more and be treated so much better. There are so many things that we all could have point but I, personally, don't want to get into the details in the comment section. There are things that I can discuss only with my fellow EXO-Ls. It's okay if you're okay with SM's management. I'm not and I have the right to complain, if the boys themselves are raising the issues they have.
@@hanasonmi I have not said that you are from the USA, it does not matter what country you are from, you can understand my comment. I explain the context and the real facts.
SM has not made any effort to approach the US market with other groups. Experiences have been minimal. Only part of the NCT project is commercially interesting in the West for example. What SM cannot avoid is the demand from the western industry due to the rise of social networks and their reach. But it is legitimate that it refuses to address that market, the holding company to which it belongs knows more than you about the markets and financial interests.
And I repeat, EXO is a group on hiatus. A paused group cannot be promoted in the same way as an active group.
Everything you think about SM as a company is biased and you are influenced by the infoxication of social networks. You talk about the subject with people who think the same as you, who also suffer from infoxication. You will never get out of that loop unless you accept that the information provided by others, if it is verifiable, is more legitimate than what you find in the rss.
It is also important that you learn to differentiate what is 'information' and what is 'opinion'.
@@mosaycomusic I think you might be missing op's points. SM _is_ targeting the US with NCT, Aespa, and especially SuperM. NCT, Aespa and SuperM have been on American talk shows and performed multiple times in the US. Aespa performed at Coachella as a 2-year-old group. SuperM, aespa and NCT have songs in English. They've all toured North America. SM now has an American partner label in Universal. It's increasingly turning its view west. So your argument that SM has never cared about western audiences is untrue.
SM _has_ turned down multiple offers made for EXO collaborations with western artists, brands, and companies (I can't remember all of them, but Billboard and Fenty Beauty were both huge opportunities that SM passed on.)
Also, they were referring to EXO's promotions as a whole group, both before enlistment and after. EXO has barely promoted or been given performance/dance practice videos like other SM groups. Their solos aren't promoted well either. SM continues to underproduce/not restock their albums despite huge demand and impressive preorder numbers (this has been an issue since DMUMT), and SM's negligence impacts album sales. And that has nothing to do with enlistment. You say you're looking at 'the facts' but you're ignoring a lot of them.
@@nikkiferretti please, don't even reply to her. I really think she's an SME employee, as she justifies SME in every comment section and says that only those who pay SME for membership are EXO-l, all the rest, who love EXO are just random anonymous people. 🤦♀️ Seriously, something's wrong with this person's logic. She calls all the facts a lie and puts the blame on anyone but SME. How convenient! A lot of companies hire people to comment good stuff about them and discredit facts to improve their image. Probly, SME realized how much fans hate them and support the groups no matter which agency they will work under.
6 rolls of kimbap for 12 teenage boys is BRUTAL… and kai mentioned only one would be cheese kimbap or tuna kimbap (im assuming the rest wont have meat in it, so prolly the other rolls would be a veggie, egg, or kimchi kimbap only) and they randomized it like a game just so they wouldn’t have to fight over it😭 he said they’d also give them one to two cans of soda with it and they’d have to share that amongst themselves.
This is a big company that already housed successful seniors during those times so i bet it’s not solely just to be cheapskates, but that it’s some sort of sick twisted shit to keep trainees in line and assert control. The only good thing that i noticed with exo out of that though is how humble they have always been. With what they’ve gone through, im not surprised.
This is an anecdote taken out of context. EXO did not go hungry or hardship.
It must be remembered that many trainees are minors and SM acts as their guardian. Control measures are justified to some extent because they have to answer to their families. SM does not manipulate her trainees by taking away food, if true the parents would be the first to sue the company.
@@mosaycomusic that didn't happen when they were trainees but happened for 3 years after their debut lol
now this is what we mean when we say EXO and EXOL got each others backs, we'll protect our boys no matter what. all we want is for them to be happy
They Deserve The Best
Also i feel sad whenever sm entertainment rookies are looked as lucky to have a certain leverage over others, esp from smaller lesser known trainees. but what they rarely tell you is that in SM, you would have to fight thousands of people, and about a thousand trainees that get threshed out through competitive monthly evaluations, through all the years you would train. these people chosen to debut have gone through hellish pressure to get to where they are and to have been chosen to debut. The scale is different qs well, so it’s not them having it “easier”
EXO members have been through a lot but they're still standing STRONG 👑
BTS, Exo and Seventeen had to be one of the most messed up and chaotic debuts I have even seen in Kpop. BTS and Exo getting hated on by the public for no good reason. Seventeen almost not debuting before their company went bankrupt and was only able to debut because one of the higher staff sold their house so Seventeen can debut.
This is the reason why we have so much respect, care and love for EXO. Even on their long hiatus we stayed and wait. We are not anymore here to compete but to protect our boys; our home. 🤍
EXO FOREVER WE ARE ONE❤
EXO-Ls put the same avatar for Baekhyun, he will come back to us in two days, we will surprise him with the avatar
The reason I feel really connected with exo though I never saw them face to face is because when I started to stan them it was the time when kris filled the lawsuit against SM, so I was there basically when all of their good and hard times happened, so when I had my lowest times their music always comforted me, and whenever they had their bad times it's when I felt that I'm there to support them and to be there for them like their music is always there for me
True! I became an EXO-L in 2013 and 2014 was really the worst year, but despite everything we've gone through as fans, the fandom remained solid as ever. I guess EXO and EXOLs found a home in each other.
That is why you have to see exo vs mama 2017 what went wrong you are going to hate more Mnet pleaseee🥺
when I first glanced at the thumbnail, I thought Seb had a manbun ngl 💀
kinda looks good tho 👀
EXO has very dedicated fan….rightfully! EXO my #1 Kpop group!
EXO-Ls put the same avatar for Baekhyun, he will come back to us in two days, we will surprise him with the avatar
If only SM agreed and accepted offers from different western agencies and artists from the west, EXO should have been bigger that what they are right now. But because EXO was becoming huge in east Asia esp in China, this agency decided to gatekeep them and wanted EXO to just focus in ASIA, instead. They werent even promoted well in other Asian countries. And Up to current times, after being a very successful group, being the richest Korean act at that, EXO is STILL BEING MISTREATED BY THIER OWN AGENCY. THUS, OTHER ENTITIES SUCH AS AWARD-GIVING BODIES AND KOREAN PRESS PEOPLE GOT THE AUDACITY TO MISTREAT EXO TOO.
SM don't want EXO to be so powerful that they are more powerful than SM itself. But EXO are so powerful anyways. That's why SM hate them, but keep them as the most money-bringing group...
What you say is absurd and directly false. Do you lie as a sport?
@@mosaycomusic WHY WOULD I LIE? THESE THINGS HAPPENED AND MANY MORE. WE HAVE RECIEPTS. EVEN THE NON FANS KNEW THESE THINGS. Please DO NOT INVALIDATE EXO'S struggles from SM's mistreatment. Enablers like you is one of the reasons why artists are having mental health crisis.
AND you seem very active in defending the agency. I dunno how much you're affiliated with them, but let me just say this, if you are from SM, PLEASE GET OUT FROM YOUR BUBBLE AND RE-ASSES YOUR MORALS AND MINDSET.
@@tatyanicktheone7387 that SM hates them?? How can you say so much nonsense without being ashamed?
FYI: SM ENT. refused SO MUCH opportunities for EXO when it comes to promoting THEM in WEST since SM target market are just East and SE Asians countries but EXO became KNOWN all over asia and even became more known outside asia after 2016 with MONSTER ERA.
The fact that THEY REJECT “CLEAN BANDIT” that wants to collaborate with EXO around 2016/17 (not that sure about the year but when the band came and have interview in sokor lol?), BILLBOARDS wants them (EXO) to come in U.S. for INTERVIEW and COACHELLA wants them to be part of Coachella 2018 and many more that SME rejects for EXO.
THAT'S WHY I DON'T UNDERSTAND KPOP STANS ESPECIALLY FROM A CERTAIN FANDOM THAT EXO NEVER EXPERIENCED SUCH THINGS THAT THEIR FAVS EXPERIENCED BECAUSE THEY'RE FROM BIG COMPANY.
I'LL explained ONE OF THE (POSSIBLE) REASON WHY Baekhyun and Taeyeon DATING is so messed up BECAUSE 1) BAEK IS A 2 YEAR OLD IDOL FROM A 2 YR. OLD GROUP 2) TAEYEON IS A SENIOR IDOL FROM A SENIOR GROUP ( DEBUTED 2007) 3) most of the fans hating the girl it's because the FANDOM is still immature that time plus GIRLS GENERATION are on their peak when the dating happened that's why the outrage is so messed up from fans and gp.
EXO is i think THE LAST GROUP TO HAVE 10 YEARS CONTRACT OR ALSO KNOWN AS ‘SLAVE CONTRACT’ because after in 2010 korean government pass a bill about this that companies may give their artist a 7 year contract but the FACT that EXO still have it when in fact they debuted in 2012 and IM SURE THEIR CONTRACT about the company before their debut is different because they're still a trainees but why they still have it??? Anyways, The contract ends last year but have rumored that the EXO sign a new contract w the company HOPE SM ENT. TREAT THEM BETTER AND LET THW GROUP AMD MEMBERS DO THEIR OWN THING since they letting their junior groups to do their own thing most of the times.
MAMA or MNET have beef with SM ENT. (& YG ENT) for YEARS they blocking any sm groups to be on no. 1 esp back then PLUS the way they blocked ‘GROWL’ to be on top of their charts is INSANE AND CRAZY lmao because ALL KOREANS CHARTS (some of the charts back then are not available anymore) GROWL is on no. 1 but when it comes to their chart the song is on no. 2 that's also why general public have debate whether they blocking exos growl to be on top and plus they had beef with the company. ofc, this BLOCKING are the SAME with other SM ENT. groups (esp 2nd generation).
Plus in 2017, MAMA decided to give their AWARDS to other groups IM NOT SAYING THEY DON'T DESERVE IT it's just that IT'S SO unfair that THE FANDOM/FANS VOTED AND WIN IT WITH A BIG GAP AS IN MILLIONS OF GAP but MAMA JUST GIVE THOSE AWARDS TO OTHER GROUPS when literally exo win all the categories they're nominated and plus the fact that they (MAMA) also confiscated EXOLS lighstick THAT TIME to give EXO BLACK OCEAN and SOME EXOLS GOT HURT in MAMA 2017 because EXOLS wants to leave because of what HAPPENED THAT NIGHT but staffs/security guards STOP THEM AND END UP HURTING ALOT OF THEM. *If you want to know what really happened just search (im not sure bout the title of the video) What really happened in Mama 2017* Later On MELON, MNET and Etc.. GOT EXPOSED MANIPULATING EXOS CHARTS AND SALES and THE FACT THAT AFTER THEY GOT EXPOSED they apologize immediately to exo and fans 😃
Yes, ALOT of exols didn't support LAY since they didn't see him more often after 2016 bcs of political tension between TWO COUNTRIES, HE'S DIFFERENT FROM OTHER CHINESE IDOLS THAT'S WHY OTHERS CAN CONTINUE PROMOTING IN SOKOR WITH THEIR GROUP BUT LAY CANT BECAUSE THAT TIME LAY IS ‘AMBASSADOR OF POLITICAL PARTYLIST’ IM NOT SURE IF HE STILL AMBASSADOR BUT IG NOT ANYMORE LOL. Plus EXOs SOLO STANS is the most annoying esp the 3 stans.
People ALWAYS something to say about EXO since they don't KNOW ANYTHING about the group and BECAUSE EXO aren't telling us what they been through behind cameras and we still can sense it and see signs and patterns let alone from their company the continuously mistreatment from the group to solo works. *Plus the fact that EXO don't have DOCUMENTARIES when they talked about themselves during trainees and atuff like that andafter debut , struggle, about hates they received, and stardom and etc... because FOR SURE SM ENT AREN'T READY TO BE SUED LMAO because MOST OF THE MEMBERS DON'T KNOW TO FILTER THEIR WORDS AND MOUTHS*
Most of what you say is false, they are rumors and hoaxes on social networks. It's so frustrating that people believe the unverified information on the internet....
You talk about Clean Bandit, Coachella, dating Taeyeon, hiring her as a slave to him, problems with Mnet... you're just speculating, your comment is childish.
Hope Sm Ent. It does not exist, it never has existed, it is a hoax.
Please, before commenting, try to inform yourself better.
@@mosaycomusic sorry lmao what?? CLEAN BANDIT itself says that, Coachella reach sm for exo to be part of the fest but eventually rejected it. If you're NEW to kpop then stfu. Baek and Teayeon used to date back in the days (2014) for 14 months. MNET and SM have beef over a decades, it's not that serious like physical lol it's just THAT mnet blocking sme groups to not top in their charts esp 2nd gen and exo. You're childish and dumb tbh.
EXO-Ls put the same avatar for Baekhyun, he will come back to us in two days, we will surprise him with the avatar
@@mosaycomusicThe one with the Clean Bandit is legit though. As for the issues with Baekhyun dating Taeyeon, we don't know what happened behind the scenes but the hate they both got is real. You can't deny that. As for problems with Mnet, it may be speculation but there are many clues left out all over the years and EXO-Ls have always been monitoring votes in award shows to make sure EXO wins. And there are many sites verifying that many Award Shows indeed sabotaged EXO in order for them to not be nominated or win any awards. Before you deny the claims, please look them up first.
First i would love to thank you Sebastian for reacting to this + to open your eyes more about exo struggles I would like to suggest to "exo vs mama what went wrong "
That will show you why sm stopped bringing there artist to mama shows ND it'll show how the disrespect exo and exoil as a normal human being you will mind blowing up
i agree. i don't know why there are people who hates a group/artist so much when they don't even know them personally. this is an unpopular opinion but sm does what they can for their artists. a lot of these entertainment companies have their pros/cons. sm sucks in so many ways just like the other companies. my only take here is i hope EXO will have their own label like Super Junior so that they can have more control to their activities. they deserve so much more
I'm an EXO-L since 2012 and I saw all of it happen. That's why EXO-L's are the strongest fandom, they have been through a lot but they still stand firm, and look at them now they are still the Legendary EXO we have known for decade
What you saw were tabloids and social media... Do you live in Korea? No, Do you work at SM in Seoul? NOT
@@mosaycomusic no but we've been in the fandom for so long we've alr seen both their ups and downs IN GENERAL SENSE and i think that's what she's referring to. we don't have to live in korea just to see how much they've struggled all these years cause we've seen it as we fangirled over them and that's why we appreciate them even more
No what happend in MAMA 2017 WAS CRAZYYY you should watch the video
Exo Mama 2017 what went wrong
It is better that you do not recommend the videos that circulate on UA-cam because they do not tell anything more than nonsense, rumors and hoaxes. Teenagers believe everything they see, often because they are immature, but for an adult to do so is absurd.
Yeah EXO finally❤️thank u
My, I remember during rookie era, one of the fans managed to photograph a glimpse of Kai's back as he lifted his jacket to adjust his microphone or whatever the device on their hip is called... It was covered with salonpas. Legit, dozens of them across his skin, patched together neatly like bandages. And that's *debut* era. He accumulated many more later on
You know it’s bad when your own company treats you bad. And I can’t say I’m surprised because it’s SM. They treat all their boy groups like just an experimental group even when they are popular they still treat them poorly. And now with the news of Baekhyun, Chen and Xuimin terminating their slave contracts it’s just confirming what everyone already knew that SM doesn’t care about these boys just about money and that’s why so many end up leaving and suing them.
The war album exo you gonna like it
Exo do not need awards because they are the awards, may God protect EXO
EXO we love You
We are one
I just think of how much more they would rule the music industry worldwide if they had a company that actually put forth the time, energy, & effort they deserve…I hope that makes sense. They are amazing, and the reason I got into K-Pop so long ago. Yet, just looking at the opportunities & offers that got turned.
Your company values them, they're just on hiatus. And they are not interested in the US market.
@@mosaycomusic I believe you misunderstood what I wrote…I believe they are well known in the music industry worldwide. The US is not worldwide, and their musical impact is worldwide. Everyone benefits from true support, and their company supporting their musical ventures & beyond would allow them to rule even more than they already do worldwide.
@@SnuggleBunny. Your company only thinks about its expansion, they want to dominate the entire Asian continent, the Middle East and Australia. The next step will be the countries of its Eurasian environment. The African and American continents are not their objective, at least for now. Remember that there are more millions of people in the rest of the world than in the American continent.
@@mosaycomusic What is "my company"? I can only gather English is not your first language. I have written "worldwide" numerous times, and have also written the US is not worldwide. You continue to assume I am speaking about the US, but I am speaking about the world/global. You are agreeing with me, but you do not even realize it.
@@SnuggleBunny. Sorry, 'His company'. I'm not against what you say, I just want to add more ideas.
Thank you for reacting to this video. Actually we're always sad about the shts mfing sm entertainment does
But we can't help but calm down and instead support exo more and more
I hope one day that trash praise and promote the kings as they truly deserve
You have no idea, that's why you blame SM for nonsense.
New kpop stan don't have an idea how EXO struggle before. And they always compared EXO to their fave and called EXO as flop. Your faves have a freedom to do a things they want and promote in western in EXO while EXO already invite to promote in western but their company refused. If EXO already promote in western do you think your faves became famous like they are now? Just use a sense before attacked EXO.
Sebastine .. love your reaction and I agree with you!! They received so many hate That’s why they stopped participating in the award ceremonies!! They love their fans so much, they don’t want to put them in a difficult situation… But even so, their effort has paid off because they did not allow anyone, even the company, to discourage them from achieving their goal. It’s not for nothing that they are called the King Vocals, they have records that have not yet been knocked down.. they are the best despite everything, they became great people and wonderful honest professionals..❤
BTW 23:10 is BTS 😂😅❤
There are more behind the curtains. And imagine you witnessed all these through years and I don't know how many times I cried because I couldn't do anything to protect my boys. Golden Disc Awards changed their rules last minute just not to give main award to EXO in 2018 for example. There are soooo many mistreatments that if I write them here, those will be pages long believe me. I am heartbroken all over again.
This is only half of the mistreatments exo experienced lmao *sob*
EXO will make a comeback after spring.
Thanks for reaction EXO ❤️
EXO is the strongest group, and being EXOL is not for the weak 😊
Really hope Suho would go all the way building his own company to promote EXO. The guys could have been even bigger than they are today if they were just promoted well.
tq so much for this reaction..im sad but it makes me love them more
Se que todos lo grupos tienen su historia, pero Exo tiene un lugar muy especial en mi corazón, tiene todo mi respeto, admiración y amor soy Exol y he visto muchos cosas que no me han gustado, pero estaré ahí apoyándolos a cada uno simplemente los amo
EXO-Ls put the same avatar for Baekhyun, he will come back to us in two days, we will surprise him with the avatar
They were 12, now i don’t even know How much they are + everytime a member is missing they had like 6 comeback in their carrer of group.. SM really treated them like shit
when earth wind and fire mentioned wanting to collab with exo and sm did nothing…..
If i’m not wrong the background music is exo’s song THE EVE right?
I already made a reply to one comment here but I will add 2 more. Suho, recently opening up about lack of freedom for EXO members to hang out freely FOR FREAKING 8 YEARS. They needed to ask permission from SM staff & managers before they went on vacation that came to them very very rare. Not even once in a year and they can't even use it as much as they wanted. 8 FREAKING YEARS.
They allowed to use their phones only when they were on schedule like touring, filming, recording etc. They weren't allowed to do anything else beside that outside of their schedule. So when they had a break, in their dorms, personal stuff... no matter what circumtances were NO PHONES WERE ALLOWED. Only after they 4th anniversary EXO can use their phones, with their own managers monitoring their activity.
I’ve been an EXO-L for three years, and even I’m sad for the mistreatment they receive. They deserve so much better and should leave SM tbh 😕.
Really? There are many comments from people who speak without knowing anything, give their opinion on topics they are unaware of.
Damn, I remember the early debut days... People ridiculed MAMA and EXO's powers so hard. EXO's (and B.A.P) group concept was something unheard of in kpop before: calling themselves aliens, having superpowers, a plot, etc. But EXO is from SM, so expectations were high. Their debut stage was considered a failure. The voices cracked, the boys obviously nervous as hell. They got ridiculed even more because of that, though looking back, they actually did very well: it was obvious that they were singing LIVE smh! MAMA was a very hard song to debut to, and even now, not many are brave enough to carry out the full song live while dancing! But the image was already bad. EXO then had to promote in small places, like schools and parks. Not many know of them.
And even critics don't only come from outside. There was fandom infighting as well. Kai was the most hated member at that time because he was the face and SM promoted him relentlessly to make people remember at least 1 face of the group. Then, there's infighting between EXO-K fans and EXO-M fans, debating which sub-unit is better. It was a huge mess.
Even the journey to the first album was hard. There were leaked audios of future songs, like Wolf. Omg, it was so bad and they got ridiculed again for it. Thank god the end result was actually much better. The leaked ver was probably just the members playing around. When the 1st album came out, it was amazing. A lot of people said it's the first time they liked all the songs (or at least most songs) in an album. Opinions on EXO rose exponentially. It's why the XOXO album will always have a special place in my heart.
Not that everything is sunshine and rainbows during that promotion. The members worked very hard despite being sick and/or injured. They're not allowed much rest. They didn't dare to rest. I felt bad for them at that time, but now that I'm older, looking back, it was quite terrifying how they keep pushing on despite various injuries. I was hurt then, but now I really don't blame the members who escaped.
SM has never wanted one group to outshine their COMPANY. It makes me sad :(
There’s still so much more than that, it won’t fit in one video. Being with EXO since 2012 and having to witness all of those mistreatments is so hard for me, how much more for them. That’s why I’m coming at anyone who harms EXO 🤺🤺
I really want you to react to “EXO vs mama2017 What went wrong” my heart💔❤️🩹💔❤️🩹
SM Entertainment does not promote. You are on your own, next. EXO, a petri dish. The amount of money they've made that label... their contract deal... injuries for their artistry... and still no respect. No respect from those who claim to be EXO-L's... the hate for individual members... We Are One out the window when times get rough... The SUPERM Purge. But when and if the day comes when OT9 joins forces again everyone will run and act like they were always present. True EXO-L's never run... stan to the death.
Well, to be an EXO fan, you are very misinformed.
@@mosaycomusic Misinformed about the exact amount they've contributed to the label to erect buildings like BoA and then some. Misinformed experiment on how the petri dish, the controlled environment of collaborations work... how variables are decided. Misinformed to which fans dislike which members from injuries to just personal distaste. Misinformed of the aggravation, frustration, and nonsense that leads to purges. No... you can keep your Misinformed.
@@remixedv It's bad information when your main sources are social media and tabloids. You can accumulate a lot of false information without knowing it.
So glad this is coming
SM Entertainment is a terrible management co. Think of all the money they have made off the backs of this group and then look at the treatment this group received 🤬
Don't believe anything in that video
We will never forget what MAMA did to Exo.
And they're still suffering
I was an EXO-L from Growl era then unstan them for a while. There was a time when I really hate EXO-L because of how toxic the fandom was. But tbh, I have to admit that EXO-L is one of the most loyal fandom that I know imo.
I also hated the the toxic exols but stayed for exo
Now I noticed that exols aren't as toxic as they used to be
I guess we matured even when other Fandom start dragging exo we mostly ignore them
Its what we have been saying. Exo could have been so much bigger but because of that company they were held back and suppressed. Let's pray for better days for our guys..
EXO-Ls put the same avatar for Baekhyun, he will come back to us in two days, we will surprise him with the avatar
Considering the lack of food, sleep, and promotion by SM, how did they perform with so much enthusiasm and professionalism? I can only imagine that they relied on their own confidence and other members.
I’ve heard other SM groups talk about how EXO built SMs new huge building, but this group built a bathroom, and that group built a door!😂. One would think that with the income EXO generated their company would have been more supportive. Maybe Lee So Min or whoever the CEO is, was fearful that EXO would make extreme demands if they were too successful.
I heard someone from Super Junior say that their group SJ even made it so that members could have stake in the company. Anyone else know anything about that?
I’m so looking forward to them becoming a group of 9 again. Or at least 8 as I understand that Lay has conflicts.
I’ve only been following Kpop and EXO for about four years, so I really am grateful for those early EXO Ls supporting them.
Ps. I hope you were able to lower your blood pressure. Just think what EXO has done even with all the negativity. No excuse for toxic “fans” and SM’s behavior. But this group was designed to succeed!!
June 3rd??? It's my birthday too!😄
I would like to add and while it's not related to EXO specifically it is related to Baekhyun. Maybe it was mentioned here if it was i missed it but either way... Baekhyun is the Leader of SuperM and when the group was formed Lee Soo Man(CEO of SM) made a group chat and told the idols to give their thoughts and ideas for SuperM going forward. Baekhyun did just that and was then scolded by Lee Soo Man on the phone for 3 hours. Baekhyun had ordered dinner before he gotten the call and it was delivered and cold by the time the conversation ended and he was able to get off the phone.
it's a hoax
@@mosaycomusic how is it a hoax when beakhyun esp mentioned it on a show himself???
@@sneh0905 It's not true, the comments he made on TV shows were taken out of context.
@@mosaycomusic oh I agree that the idea is way too overused. But scolding someone for 3 hours after asking for their opinions is still no normal.
salute to us EXO-Ls and EXO for still standing strong to strive and be happy together making music and memories
I’m sorry but 2012 music was fire. Clarity by Zedd was on blast 24/7 and tell me that ain’t one of the most nostalgic feel good songs of the early 2010’s
Xiumin wasnt the only one forced on an extreme diet. Baekhyun was too. It’s most prevalent how bad it was during the Lotto era he looked like a skeleton and would often faint during rehearsals and almost fainted multiple times doing performances. Idol diets are scary
They were not bound by contract, it is Korean society and its high beauty standards that lead young people to develop bad eating habits that can put their health at risk. It's a social problem, it's not a Kpop problem.
@@mosaycomusic it’s both. It wouldn’t have gotten so bad if “fans” weren’t commenting about how “fat” he was
Even so idols are held to a higher standard in every way so no, it IS a kpop problem
@@penelopewindsor9418 Remember that in SM there are other artists who are overweight... and nothing happens. Being thin is a personal choice, you can always ignore what social media says. Your opinion is biased.
EXO is my Ult group but even I didn’t know about all of this. I just assume idols are mistreated by their companies and saesangs. It’s still sad to see.
It’s almost like SM prohibited them from being what BTS is now, and yet they want to complain about Hybe’s success as if they didn’t refuse nearly every western promotion that came their way. BTS’s success is well deserved don’t get me wrong but it feels so weird to feel like your favorite group - one of the most popular groups in the Korea - is underrated. They aren’t by any means it just feels like the love they should be getting is disproportionate to the amount that they receive. I genuinely don’t know too many hardcore EXO fans online or IRL. Of course preference is involved but it still feels like they’re kind of swept under the rug despite practically everyone acknowledging that these mf’s are skilled.
And seeing them perform in America seems like a distant fantasy. I don’t really understand how slightly less popular groups are more tangible as far as tours go than EXO, given their status.
if people treat other pelople like they want to be treated then the world would be a much better place
there is so much more that this video didnt mention
So much more that its sad😢
Yes, many more hoaxes that it is better to ignore.
I envision all EXO members leaving SM and starting their own company with Suho as CEO.
"not the snake" 🤣🤣
the shit the ex exos went through was so crazy. like how is sm going to forbid kris from taking medication for his HEART CONDITION???? could have KILLED the man. had fucking tao dancing on broken limbs and in the training room the day after leaving the hospital in a wheelchair, like???? Absolutely insane
All you say are rumors and hoaxes that come from social networks.
React to Exo SMCU Palace Love Shot and First Snow
there's even much more T^T
in 2021 their comeback Don't fight the feeling had 0 promo! Nada, dust!
SM just dropped the links and that was it...and they sold more than 1m copies again...the f audacity of this trash company..
anyway ty for reacting to this
In 2021 they released a special album just before two members enlisted in the army, at that time there were two other members absent, besides Lay. They promoted the EP on all TV shows, radio etc... having five inactive members.
What do you want them to promote if they are in the army?
There are many absurd comments in this video, yours is one of them.
@@mosaycomusic they promoted what??? exos talking about DFTF? maybe, but actual promo from SM...hell no
i need your buttlicker SM apologist axx out of my mentions....
you have to be kidding me
@mosayco they promoted on t.v. and radio show dam I must be a fake fan cause I didn't see that happen at all
@@Jasmin_Sebaek_Candy It's that you don't live in Korea
If I remember correctly either Suho or Baekyeon got slapped by "fans"
U know what, what i want to say, im exo-l, and i want to say this to my fav. Group Exo, why??? Not have to plan to switch the company, go to company was best on ur group
U know what i mean
Nor sm not let them go, if thats, pursue to exo to expose to worldwide
U know what i mean
It’s time for them to sign up with a different company or just make their own company. Together they have enough money to make a new label for themselves.
They have renewed their exclusive contracts because they are happy with the company, they are millionaires, they don't complain at all. Do not believe the hoaxes that are viralized on the internet by anonymous people.
Food and phones is not a mistreatment. Y'all should stop blaming the company cause it happened to all idols back then. No phone is a rules. For the food, sm did buying them but in a low quantity. Reasons 1, diet & weight. 2, they can't afford to change the size of their outfits. Yes SM is a big company but did y'all know that since 1997-2015, South Korea was having a currency crisis? Won hits the weakest value starting may 2010 - 7 September 2015 which means, more Korean peoples started to starving until there's only 1 meal/day. Did y'all get it? If most of you /exol here blaming sm and y'all from western,europe etc, then y'all should be thankful cause your country never faces the same situation. Phones is unnecessary 24/7 cause they don't have social media to updated fans about them. They did so much sacrifice to be known and to introduce kpop in the world. That's why old gen fans always attacking newest fans who talked proudly about their idols and degrading old gen idols. Yes, They did compared their early trainee and idols day in term of how world was changed to be more easy and better now.
Becoming an idol is not an easy option in life. Would-be idols have to pay for their own training, live up to very strict expectations in appearance and behaviour, and most never even make it. Most just end up in dept. Of those that do debut, very few become big. There are hundreds of Kpop bands. Even so, so many still try. Companies like the SM have a huge pool to choose from as to debut with them gives groups a kick start. You have to be their idea of perfect for whatever role they require at the time and you have to maintain it. Their first years are paying back depts. Even if you debut, if you don't have longevity, you still may not make much money. And it's not just the companies. They are idols not pop stars, reflecting the fans expectation that they will be perfect role models. The slightest rumour can ruin a career overnight. Given all this, it is hard to believe anyone would put themselves through it. Thank god EXO did. We are eternally grateful for all they have been through while staying strong and positive. They have our greatest respect and love.
All you say are rumors and social media hoaxes...
Exo deserves better treatment they were gonna be THE BIGGEST but they still are but smh I’m so disappointed in sm
Blaming SM is childish, find out better, do not use social networks as a source of information.
@@mosaycomusic it’s literally the truth.. and sadly they’re not the only group who’s getting mistreatment in sm
@@eyla107 Do not repeat the nonsense you read on social networks, please.
@@eyla107 don’t reply to that guy, she reply nothing but bs in every comment section, she believes being an exo-l must paid from sm lmao what a joke
@@Hopedeeznutz fr
EXO THE UNWANTED CHILD OF SM... SM NO.1 HATER OF EXO
what you say is nonsense
Why are you weirdly focusing on exo lately?
Is it a crime? A better question would be why are you so bothered by it 💀
@@oublie-moi bothered? Not in the slightest. I was merely asking since the timing seemed off to me. Back then, I thought he didn't find their music appealing. Bizarrement, now he's showing great interest so i was wondering why.
On the other hand, I don't get why would you care 🤷♀️ plus, that skull emoji was uncalled for little miss/sir.
Capas le terminó gustando exo y bueno, empezó a hacerle más reacciones xd
I saw a comment about this video being misleading. I partially agree with that. There are a lot more serious things done by SM. Most of the video is just some non-very mature commentary without actual and true, more important facts. I feel like there could be done a better job in providing an informative video instead of a school presentation type of a thing. All the childish stuff apart, we all are upset and angry with SM mainly because of EXO's lack of promotion, problems with providing album restocks which led to them having lower sales (this problem occurred many times), global tours without actually including various parts of the world which led to EXO thinking that they are not very popular outside of Asia and then getting surprised knowing how popular they actually were, rejection of big offers and opportunities. They just f-ed up EXO's potential. And from the recent interviews of the boys, I feel like SM made sure boys believe that they weren't/aren't that popular and should be happy with whatever they are given. I have this weird feeling that they always tried to have EXO's popularity and power under control so that they would remain the ones dictating the rules. Considering the fact that EXO's success brought so much to SM (they literally bought a huge ass building with only the success of "Growl"), I never felt that they were appreciated and cherished by the company the way they should've been as the main providers for many years even after new groups were there for years.
I don't want to comment on the rest about food and stuff, as I'm not a fan since debut and can't talk on their behalf but I've noticed that it's quiet the same for many groups in the beginning of their career. A lot of them had limited amount and type of food, I guess companies were not very keen on spending too much money on trainees or newbies till they would see them getting successful.
I hope SM can treat their idols better, and I hope exo left SM and create their own EXO label that would be good...
keep waiting, that's not going to happen...
@@mosaycomusicim just hoping.. I know it won't happen
Please, stop reacting to these types of videos that only misinform.
It is shameful that such manipulative videos are given publicity and credibility. The creator of the video, presumably, is a schoolboy who has never posted anything interesting on UA-cam. He just edits TikTok shorts by adding robotic voices.
All that counts is unsubstantiated information that comes from social networks, thanks to anonymous characters like this many people believe that EXO has suffered mistreatment and abuse by his company. It's so ridiculous.
EXO members have renewed their contracts more than once with SM, the same goes for the rest of the company's artists. All agencies have artists who decide to terminate the contract, for various reasons: economic, personal interests, etc... But this does not mean that the company mistreats them. The South Korean recording industry is not very different from the rest of the world, the only difference is its learning system, which is very similar to sports training, such as the youth teams of soccer teams.
EXO shared an apartment in one of the prime areas of Seoul and the agency took care of their expenses. The monthly rent for the apartment alone was around $2,000. The false story that went viral about his lack of food and other nonsense has been debunked countless times by the country's serious media. Only the tabloids and the rss were dedicated to publishing these falsehoods, on many occasions the videos were even subtitled wrong on purpose so that the lies were believable. EXO's anti-fans also viralized these 'junk news' for more than obvious reasons.
Beauty standards in South Korea are not limited to Kpop, the whole Korean society thinks the same and it is very common for people to undergo diets and cosmetic operations even if they work as office workers. On the other hand, the Korean idiosyncrasy inherited from Confucianism is the key, they value effort above anything else, they consider it honorable, so the more effort, the more honored they feel. When EXO members bring up anecdotes from their early days, they're not criticizing, they're bragging about their efforts. You have to put yourself in the shoes of others and not criticize cultures that do not understand each other, accusing them of slavery.
In South Korea no one thinks that SM is an abusive company, it's just an idea that was spread by the West, more specifically in the American continent. There is no real evidence, it is all manipulations and fake videos created by anonymous people.
EXO's fandom is solid, what a minority of crazy female fans do on social media is irrelevant, the company knows it and the group members know it. For example, the fans who appear in the images criticizing Chen were barely 20 people, but the tabloids magnified and viralized this absurd fact.
The Chinese members who left EXO were never able to prove the allegations of mistreatment etc, however, in the trials it was shown that they were developing their careers in China behind the back of the company, they were breaking their contract and this led to harsh penalties. SM chose not to sue them financially as long as they continued their contract to the end, and they did. They stopped being part of SM in 2022.
EXO-K and EXO-M were not sub-units, they were two vocal formations to sing the Korean or Mandarin versions of the songs, they always sang the same songs. In the concerts, presentations and promotional videos ALL the members ALWAYS appear. When there were 12 members it was easy to dedicate 6 of them to sing in a different language, after the departure of 3, with an odd number they left the strategy aside because it was not necessary although they continued to include songs in Mandarin in the albums.
It must be taken into account that the subunits of a group have independent discography, as is the case today with EXO-CBX and EXO-SC.
EXO didn't merge because they were never divided into two different groups. The decision to present two versions of the songs was a strategy to address the Chinese market that was beginning to open up to Kpop at that time. SM was trying to expand in Asia as much as possible, for the same reason EXO has also published in Japanese.
About the BIG3, they were called that at the beginning of Kpop in the 00's and late 90's, but when EXO debuted all those companies were already part of larger corporations where the original agencies were located and many others that were born later. Since the late 00's most agencies belong to a holding company, they have the same local and foreign shareholders. Smaller agencies are often subsidiaries of larger ones. They are no longer BIG3, they are 'BIG many' although their corporate seal remains the same.
All that typing and You just made all that up 💀 starting off with EXO re-signing with SM more than once when it is widely known that EXO are the last group in the industry tied to a 10 year slave contract and are JUST now going on their 11th year. pink bloods need psychiatric help istg. yall hate EXO so much you would defend a notoriously nasty company like SM to minimize all they've been through.
Waoo 💯💯
@@kim_196 girl shut the hell up
Well then, why did they file a lawsuit n called it a 'slave contract'?
I don't think that u would be able to say this now that the recent situations look totally opp.
@@trijakamei6819 When you want to cancel a commercial contract unilaterally and both parties cannot agree, it is a judge who ends that commercial relationship, which is why it is necessary to file a lawsuit. The plaintiffs allege all kinds of things to avoid economic sanctions, they can exaggerate and even lie, it is in the trial where the accusations must be proven. In the case of the EXO members, they did not prove anything. The tabloids published the rumors and lies because those news sell more.