AMD's Greedy Upsell: RX 7900 XT Review & Benchmarks vs. XTX, 4080, & More
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- Опубліковано 22 лип 2024
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AMD's RX 7900 XT is basically just an upsell technique for the RX 7900 XTX. The XT fails to provide any meaningful value over last generation cards, it fails to beat any NVIDIA 40-series cards, and it is clearly a greedy play at pushing consumers to the RX 7900 XTX -- just like the 4080 is designed to push people to the 4090, except NVIDIA at least has the defense of being the literal 'best' on the charts. This review and benchmark of the AMD RX 7900 XT will test it vs. the RX 7900 XTX, the NVIDIA RTX 4080 and 4090, the AMD RX 6950 XT, and more. We're looking at gaming performance, ray tracing, thermals, and power.
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TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - The AMD RX 7900 XT Video Card
01:26 - The Background
03:30 - Benchmarking the Number of Xs
04:42 - RX 7900 XT Power Consumption
05:46 - Thermal Benchmarks on the RX 7900 XT
07:11 - The Fan is too Aggressive on the 7900 XT
07:50 - Frequency Validation on 7900 XT
08:20 - Total War RX 7900 XT Benchmarks (4K, 1440p, 1080p)
12:04 - Tomb Raider GPU Benchmarks 2022
14:18 - FFXIV RX 7900 XT vs. 7900 XTX
15:01 - F1 2022 GPU Benchmarks
16:05 - Rainbow Six Siege RX 7900 XT vs. RTX 4080
17:15 - Horizon Zero Dawn RX 7900 XT vs. 6950 XT
18:00 - Ray Tracing Benchmarks - Cyberpunk
19:19 - Ray Tracing Tomb Raider RX 7900 XT
20:15 - Ray Tracing Control Benchmarks
21:18 - Conclusion: It's An Upsell Card
24:00 - WHIIIIRRRRRR
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Really great job on these reviews
Theyve been taking cues from nvidia
Props to you to devoting so much time to talking about your x's. But maybe it's time to move on. I know you still love them, but they don't love you. Otherwise, they'd give you so much more. Sadly, your x's don't offer much of significance beyond themselves.
lol, 5 X BEST
Yeah but Steve you gotta realize, the real value is always in the 9's and 7's, which, while often overlooked, is as we all know where the real performance lies. So they're still selling you those not only 7 tiers, but even throwing in a 9 on top with TWO x's in one case.
A bargain, if you ask me. Intel only sells one 7 these days, and no x's, for many hundreds of dollars.
The number of Xs benchmark is hilarious, truly a gamer's nexus moment.
Absolutely loved it! Wonderful!
Definitely took me by surprise and got a hearty laugh out of me.
Can't wait for XFX's Tripple-X Edition of the XTX.
Obviously more Xs = more better 😂
The price per X for the 4090 is egregious by Nvidia. $1600 for just a single X!
I will be sad if XFX doesn't commit to the bit with the XFX RX 7900 XTX XXX Edition. They did it for the RX580.
THIXXX
XFX RX 7900 XTX XXX THIXXX3
Yes there really was a xxx version of the XFX RX580. A 7900XTX version of this would give it 8 X's, which would be 700% more X than an RTX 4090.
Love to see the Nvidia fan boys after XFX drops this 8X monster.
Bring back CrossFireX and put 4 XFX RX 7900 XTX XXX CrossFireX cards in your system for a total of 36 Xs. NVIDIA may as well declare bankruptcy right now.
XFX Presents the new limited time GPU:
The XFX RX 7900 XTX EXXEXXIVE XXX'S EDITION!
We've replaced all C's and S's with X's, for extra excessiveness. Because we care.
Wonderful to see someone adding the X's graph! It's a vital performance, "X per Price" ratio that more reviewers need to include.
Will additional Xs be made available for retrofit later?
I feel like 7900 XT and XTX should be revisitied - especially after the new drivers and price drops. 6950xt is way cheaper as well, so those 3 cards are in a interesting battle between eachother that I would love to see.
@@traditional_trekkie was actively trying to purchase a PowerColor reference 7900 xt open box from Amazon Warehouse for $660 but it was the last one and sold out as I tried buying :( so I bought the same model new for $750 which is not a bad price, definitely could’ve waited for it to be $700 or less tho
@@traditional_trekkie I was able to get an open box 7900xt for $630 at Micro Center and it's been great - if you can get a deal like that, would highly recommend
@@FrackaLacka got my asrock 7900xt for 820 euro with starfield bundle. Couldn't wait anymore to be honest..
This is why I always wait for the Gamers Nexus review before buying anything. I had completely ignored the XFX 7900 XTX but seeing the 66% uplift in X's compared to the the stock Radeon 7900 XTX I am now going to get one.
Well did you? I just missed out
ROFL
@@CheeseTheFish Unfortunately my comment was satire. As I paid an astronomical amount for my current RX 6900XT Gaming Z Trio during the dark times that shall not be named and as I game at 1440p I am actually not going to be upgrading for another generation or so. :D
you wont get one anytime soon at MSRP if you didnt get it when you had the chance lol
@@LC-pp4bb I don't know, miners are all trying to sell off the cards they already have and scalpers all got burnt at the end of the GPU shortages. I can see these coming back into stock and being relatively available in the next few weeks.
I just have to say that I greatly appreciate you benchmarking the number of X's. I know this bit has been said but the street your shooting on looks nice have been a great change of pace for these two reviews.
It's a very unique benchmark! No one else did it!
@@GamersNexus Naming suggestion.
0. X-Less
1. Un-X
2. Squared-X
3. Cube-X
To make it even more clear. (also it enables the letter Q (sort of 2ce), which makes the user aware of the next letter that will supercede X in the Future)
honestly I never liked the 7900xtx, but especially after comparing the xfx7900xtx to the rtx 4090, I know which card was clearly the best I mean 1 card has 4X es and the other only 1 X.
@@XX-_-XX420 lmao that's a legit brand
I'm glad you mentioned the X benchmark as the card also performs better using an X CPU like the 5600X in an X570 Mobo. It's minor in the grand scheme of things, but those extra X's give you an edge.
I really appreciate you guys adding the data for the number of Xs. Other outlets really neglect that and I think it's important for the consumer.
The X test @ 3:31 is truly ground breaking, others releasing benchmarks should be taking notes as it’s more, if not just as important as staring at an fps counter.
So sad, intel arc A770 didn't even make it to the graph with it's 0 X(s)
*groundbreaking
Makes no sense when you separate the two words. Ouch.
The worst part is that the benchmark is actually important for people despite claiming otherwise. Why do you think people buy inferior RGB products instead of better non-RGB products? Monkey brain is real.
@@dildojizzbaggins6969 syntactically incorrect, but you know exactly what it meant in the context. I could change it for you if it helps you understand. But by concatenating the two words, would it really change the semantics of the whole comment?
I am glad that you took a whole minute worth of review explaining the "X's". Your in-depth reviews are amazing.
I miss traveling, my old job took me all over the place. Seeing you in Taipei makes wanna go someplace fun next year. Love your videos and awesome fact finding. Keep up the great work you and your team do, and cant wait for the next news videos from the tech world.
Hope you guys are having a blast on your trip GN, thanks to Patrick for holding down the fort for the reviews!
But which Patrick!? Or is Patrick already plural?
@@GamersNexus hi
@@GamersNexus Patrike is plural Patrick
@@GamersNexus Thanks, Steve.
@@GamersNexus I think the plural is Patrices, a bit like appendix goes to appendices
The pricing of X-es is outrageous. It is the same story we could see when Xbox Series X came out. It is flat-out brutal!
I was laughing at that! 😆
Like back in the day with everyone labeling things XP.
Lol a bot stole your comment
The pricing for the XTX actually makes sense considering the power it has and being able to perform at the same level of not better than a card that is more expensive.. The 7900 XT should've just been a 7800XT.
@Claudio Salazar I thought of the name scheme:
X
Box
One
X
Works for Apple too, when they put "X" on something, it usually means Xpensive.
Really loved the X-chart comparison. Took me completely by surprise. Love that you can inject humor into yet another benchmark year after year. Hats off to you.
I would like to know if there's a minor uplift in fps with using a ryzen 7000 or if there are some performance gains with some newer drivers, if amd can optimize them since that new architecture
The X benchmark was the highlight of the video. Truly groundbreaking work guys.
Spat out coffee as the "almost as many Xes as Asutek has exes" part
"X marks the spot"
XFX RX 7900 XTX just became the most sought after GPU.
people love buying memes, it's actually a great marketing stunt thanks to GN
Honestly, if XFX marketing is clued in, they'll both use this review in their marketing and send GN a very public 1337.69 USD check in appreciation.
@@luckyo11 There aren't any Xs in that check though. Pointless, especially in this economy.
X GON GIVE IT TO YA
Where does 1337.89 come from?
Looking forward to more outdoor shoots in the future! eXcellent review as always!
Hey Steve, I noticed increasing the Fan Speed doesn't improve the GCD Temp to much for me. Could you check the mounting pressure of these reference cards. I'm wondering if the GCD sit's slightly lower than the MCDs causing worse contact for the GCD??
The price on the XT is gonna have to come down considerably to make it a decent option.
Mate, both of them. Imagine the xtx at $899 and the xt at $699. That would be the right price point for them. The 6000 series have to go below $500 and we're good to go. Nvidia should also pull their heads out of their asses, and put their cards on the correct price points.
@@flegmaniac3462 if I were CEO of Nvidia, I’d drop the 4080 price down to $899 and completely ruin AMD’s entire product cycle.
@@kylestewart4444 They wouldn't win anything by doing that. They wouldn't maximize profits this way, also amd's market share is too insignificant to be even bothered with such strategies.
@@kylestewart4444 Then they'd cut their own profits massively as they know people will buy Nvidia regardless, it'd undercut their unsold 3xxx stock to boot, the shareholders would be banging on Jensen's door
p.s. looks at Steve standing outside in the rain in a T-shirt, looks outside here at temps a fraction above freezing and snow and ice, I want your job Steve.
@@flegmaniac3462 You can only sell your cards at the price they're selling them at to "maximize profits" if people are actually buying them at those prices.
The GPU shortage/ insanity of the recent past is currently over. Meaning not every damn card instantly sells out no matter what the price is.
These cards are in stock everywhere and are more or less just sitting on the shelves.
Sure Nvidia and AMD both want nothing more than to maximize profits. That's what a publicly traded company's job is. But when your product isn't selling because the market segment / consumers decide that the price is ridiculous. Sooner or later in order to "maximize profits" you do need to lower the price so people might actually purchase the damn things. Making something is better than having a crap ton of inventory at prices the consumers aren't willing to pay.
Finally an informative and well spoken EXclusive X count benchmark test
Thank you for the thorough review! 😊 It's great to see a detailed comparison of different GPU models. 👍 Keep up the good work!
I actually sat forward in my chair during the X benchmark, only to explode into uncontrollable laughter within moments. How you did the voiceover for that segment with a straight face is beyond my capacity to comprehend.
The 'Number of X's' benchmark was super informative. I never realized that can be a parameter too.
Damn, you guys are on a roll. Three in a day. Keep up the great work
Thank you!
3:45 I love how you guys broke this down to really highlight the technological advancements in a language we can understand (barely). This has greatly influenced my purchase decision.
I would like to see another temp benchmark with you adding thermal pads to the back of the memory chips to see if the backplate would help with memory temps on the AMD cards.
Even the description is so beautifully written and explains everything you need to know. Such an amazing channel.
This should have been called the 7800XT and cost a lot less!
I think a lower case "X" would have worked better. 7900xT. Or add more "X" to the 7900XTX. 7X9X0X0XTXXX(!!!!X!!)X
Yep, adding an extra X just reminds me of XBox versioning: stupid.
I agree, the 7900xtx should be the 7900XT for $999 and the 7900xt should be the 7800xt for $799.
Why they're so obsessed with "x" word on all their products?
well this is indeed 7900 xt but they probably will lower the price to match or lower than 3070 / ti to make nvidia bad
GN, would you mind adding a VR game to the benchmarks, MSFlight or something challenging to run? Or are there just too many factors at play?
You can tell all the money we send GN with our merch purchase went to good use. I can’t imagine how expensive it was to get equipment to make the X chart
Getting a 6900XT for $500 was my best financial decision this year.
Great price!
ooofff where? I got my 6750 for 520 back in may xD
Picked up an MSI trio 6950 xt for 749 gbp+ 2 games as a Christmas deal :D
Used RTX 3070 for U$300 in my case, this is a really terrible gen of GPUs which we should all forget about and leave them gathering dust in the shelves so maybe next gen Nvidia and AMD will wake up and realize mining is over and astronomical GPU prices are no longer acceptable.
For the $300 you get chopped things like 3050 or 6400, forget about budget gaming on the new graphics card
Almost spit out my coffee with that first X benchmark. Well played GN, shout-out to both teams for putting in the work to deliver the day 1 content despite the travel and less staff on hand.
As for the card itself not much to say for me AMD probably should have sold these cards at $600 and $800 if they really wanted to win gamers over.
If NVIDIA adjusts pricing I’m sure they’ll get there eventually but I many are waiting to scoop up last generation cards unless the upcoming 7600 and 7700 models offer some great value.
cringe
@@AdiiS what are you? 12 with that kind of reply?
Big facts, especially with 1080p still being so prominent even at high FPS the 3070 and 6800xt will do you well enough. My 3070 is helping me single PC stream and run 200fps on mw2 and still looks great in stuff like cyberpunk even if only like 80-90fps
@@plysmeister cringex2
I just got a 3070 for $300 to replace my 1070ti. Seems like getting 1 gen behind is the way to go with how greedy these prices have been, and with how fast PC parts depreciate, it's just not worth it for me.
Good afternoon Steve. Did you happen to do any transient power assessment on the 7900 XT? I know the card doesn't make sense for most, but I was hoping to use it in my ITX build to max that system out (upgrading from a 1080 TI FTW3) on 3d performance without significant changes or other upgrades.
I modified the case to accommodate and was getting PSU panic shutdowns. Thermals were fine. I guess I was really threading the needle with the 1080Ti on that 650W PSU with a 65 watt CPU...
For now I went out and got a tower case from the local best buy and threw an 850watt corsair in there and it's running well. Basically trying to figure out if I can go with a 750W SFX PSU and move it all back.
your benchmarks are the best, thanks steve (and the entire crew, thank you!)
Love your exclusive X testing suite, are you considering making it commercially available? Because I think many other people, besides me would interested in testing the Xs in our hardware.
I finished the teardown video then saw your comment that the benchmark video is up, THEN saw that you guys released THIS video. Thanks for feeding my tech addiction GN, amazing!
Thanks for watching!
Is the coil whine something permanent? Or it is possible to make it less noisy? I was reading some users opinions that you need to "bake" new GPU with coil whine to make it disappear. By bake they meant to run e.g. furmark for few hours.
I laughed way too hard at the X's comparison bit. Good work, always love the content.
Steve and the rest of the crew thank you for all your hard work! I love all your content and how serious you guys are. Easily my number one pc youtube channel bar none.
Man I love your reviews. Doesn't matter where they are, they are always straight to the point, super informative and lately laced with humour. Well done.
I like how XTX is placed. XT hopefully sees a price drop in relation to 4080's price drop, or 4070 launch when it comes. I'm just hoping for some okay pricing to reach NZ. that exchange rate still "hits different"
Came here for info on the new AMD cards, subbed for the comedic moments and pressed the like button x times.
You absolutely nail the balance between raw info, sarcasm, serious testing and entertainment. True nerd stuff, love it.
Being able to survive narrating charts like 3:41 without flinching is some x-tra skill.
you guys literally define (and have been pioneering) GPU benchmarking, great job GN team!!
This is why you always hold companies to the highest of standards, unfortunately people say they will boycott GPUs but either are lying or weren't shopping in that price class, seeing how well the 4090 sold. Things will keep getting worse unless people realize they don't need to upgrade every generation.
Boycotts don't really work against most companies. Maybe for a small business but AMD is too big
the 4090 is actually the least shit of all the next gen gpus, so it's not surprising that they sell fairly well
people definietely are holding out on upgrading every generation. The new ryzen gen completely flopped and so did the 4080^ There is still a market for the new stuff but it's shrunk drastically since the cryptomining era and the gtx 10-series era where value was still a thing
That's the thing most of the people who are buying these products aren't in UA-cam comment section complaining. Its mostly people who can't afford it and a few who was actually thinking about getting one that are always commenting
The 4090 is the only great GPU this generation so far. Boycotts are dumb and don’t work at all.
I have to say I appreciate the X performance charts that are erroneously lacking from all other review sites. I'm in the process of getting together parts for the current most Xtreme PC and thanks to the benchmarx, the RX 7900xtx seems to be the frontrunner, Ill be adding it to the R9 7900X to take full advantage of the 7900 GPU-CPU hypersyncing Xtreme fusion.
Though I am debating on holding off until the mid cycle refresh models drop with an inevitable 7900xXx model
dont forget to pair it with the 7950x
@@fist003 That would neglect the benefit of the numerical hypersync fusion combo. And wont show a real tangible X factor uplift.
I dont want to be mean but the most Xtreme PC would be with an RTX 4090
@@shleft9938 I don't think, you got the joke with X - treme. 👀
@@shigarumo2263 Seems like
Great review, as always. Prices here in the EU are pretty different from the US MSRPs, tho. 1200€ for the 7900 XTX, 1350€ for the 4080, 1000€ for the 4070ti and 900 € for the 7900XT (tax included). Everything is horrible overpriced for sure, but the 7900XT looks a little bit better in this scenario.
Is the 7900 XTX not pulling more power than it should with just two 8 pin connectors and the PCie slot only giving 375W but taking 415W with OC in furmark.
AMD really should have provided a X comparison chart when they launched their cards I can't believe they missed such a marketing opportunity. It would have fit in perfectly with their 8K gaming slides.
And have been more relevant.
@@iankemp2627 for real lol 8K gaming isn't something you can do yet, not at a playable fps atleast
This is the 3rd video you've released today, y'all are amazing at keeping the content coming, especially considering you are on the other side of the earth.
4:00 I was missing that testing for decades 😭😭😭👍
I had this on in the background while doing some work and had to come back during the X benchmark to make sure I was hearing everything correctly. Brilliant.
Thank you for bringing the Vega64 back to the charts. Still rocking mine :)
Lol sadly I have mine sitting in a box. Currently running 5700xt. I had a 56 but gave it to my friend.
Sill running my Vega64, custom water loop. Holding up well for my needs for now. :)
Vegang
@@Daidalos69Vegan gang? I'm down for that!
I've got a vega 64 rog strix in my secondary pc, undervolted and overclocked by enough to see a 25% framerate increase, actually beats my rog strix 1080ti OC model in a lot of games, especially 1% lows.
After seeing a couple of vids I’m convinced that the prices should have been:
7900XTX: 849
7900XT: 699
Eh those profit margins would be like 15-20% 30%-40% is pretty standard
@@zee-fr5kw I really would like to see the BOMs and R&D cost for these cards. There's no way these cards actually cost more to make than RDNA2 or Ampere.
I understood the crazy prices during the COVID/mining double pincer move era, but this just seems like pure greed from both nVidia and AMD. They saw people buy cards because they had no choice and now they think they can get away with this.
It's a crying shame intel hasn't come in with a capable product yet, especially in the "4060"/"7600XT" performance tier for like $200 or $250 tops. People would fall head over heels for something like that. The producta are great, but these inflated prices are exciting for no one. Paying 1200€ for a card that should be 900€ tops (launch price if the 3080 10GB in Europe, for example) feels like crap.
@@zee-fr5kw I’m not convinced those margins would be so low but I’m willing to change my mind if you have this BOM costs. Chiplets are supposed to reduce costs, not raise them.
Nah, 7900 xtx should've been called a 6800 xt since it doesn't compete with 4090, like in 5000 series 5700 xt being top end AMD and 650$. 7900 xt is a 6800, 550.
@@Rspsand07 💯
My question: I have 3 Samsung G8's, and with only 2 DPs should I go USBC to DP or get a DP 1x2 splitter?
What camera is GN using for filming? Good quality!
The "Honestly, the review is kind of over before it even started X" line made me literally laugh out loud. Thanks, Steve!
It’s amazing to see the progress in the computer industry. It used to be about the number of Cs in Thicc and now it is about the number of Xs. What will be next ZZZ?
Are you guys going to review the xfx merc 310 7900xtx for cooling, power delivery, and benchmarks?
Would the Sapphire version of the reference card be any different with thermals or are all reference cards the same? I normally buy sapphire cards when I go AMD but no idea if it matters with reference.
I remember when the top graphics cards used to cost around $400-500. Now they're two to three times the price! I'm going to wait a year or two to see what they cook up and hopefully prices will come down or there will at least be decent cheaper variants. In the mean time my AMD Vega 56 is still holding up ok.
To save money just wait a while and buy last gen top tier, or buy used or both.
AMD 6900xt was going for $600 brand new on Black Friday - that was a stomping deal
I remember when those same gpus could barely run new games at decent framerates for 1080p. Now we have gpus that are huge overkill for 1080p/1440p while the vast majority of gamers are still running at that resolution. These cards are expensive because people keep buying them, yet when 1080p and 1440p cards are released, they are often good deals.
Lol unfortunately I do believe Jensen saying GPU prices dropping are a thing of the past. Demand is too high on top of their planned artificial scarcity
I just got it the pc field 3 years ago the history there is incredible but these prices now are ridiculous 😢
Yep, back when I thought the 980ti price was getting out of hand @ $650
Thanks Steve for keeping counting of the X-es. Was having trouble deciding what to buy :)
I think they are going to keep the 4000 series priced high until 3000 sells out, then they'll drop it, although that might be happening soon as those cards are becoming far less common in stores from what i've seen here in canada so far
question is: how much will they drop? i dont see a 4080 for 699 including tax in 2023
Actually both AMD and Nvidia cut back on production and this was even before Nvidia talked about it because they had cut the number of wafers from TSMC about 6 months ago. Both companies projected lower sales for 2023. It's also why there are very few GPUs from AMD right now from this new gen and it won't change until next year.
I checked the major box retailers here in Australia - about 8% to 10% discount on the 4080 already...and needless to say, all SKU's in stock
They will probably keep the price on the original 4000 cards and release some 4000-super edition with a lower price.
Hey Steve, any reason 3080ti isn't included in the avg fps?
Love Steve just casually doing the review outside while it's raining with just his umbrella for shelter 😂
I liked the outdoor shot! 👍
3:42 just know that I appreciate this part, it's so helpful for me in deciding what to get, considering how I like X's so much that I'd be willing to dish out 2k$ for the most X.
(srsly, this got me rofling)
Good stuff as usual X. Always appreciate X GN's great coverageX.
Whats crazy is in my country (Hungary) the prices of the 4070 Ti and the RX 7900 XT are switched.
The 4070 Ti is around 960$ and the RX 7900 XT is around 860$, both really expensive due to high taxes.
The 7900 XTX is 1200$.
Yep. Always depends on where you live. 7900xt seems like solid value in your area.
I dearly hope Intel comes in swinging in the GPU market within the next few years.
@R L let's give them 100 managers more!
_"The saviour we need but didnt deserve"_
lol
If Intel was smart they would bundle their GPUs and CPUs at a discount
i mean, they do have cards out now, but... they're far worse price/perf than their direct Nvid/AMD competition. that's not so great for hopes.
I’d love to see them become a real competitor in the gpu segment and push prices back down, but they are probably 3-4 years away from that.
Pretty crazy to see the improvements over the 5700xt, they have come a long way in a pretty shot time. I just upgraded to a 5700xt and so far it’s more than enough for me. only problem is not enough X
Whenever I look at those charts all I see is that I currently am playing AAA games at 1440P and 60FPS. And that raytracing for the same games still is an illusion unless we upscale. In which case we are running at 1080P. DLSS feels like an elaborate marketing scam.
@@bjorn-falkoandreas9472 guess the scam is so elaborate that AMD is attempting to copy ray tracing and DLSS not to mention how tons of people appreciate and use upscaleers..not to mention consoles relying heavily on upscaleong and trying their best to use ray tracing
@@bjorn-falkoandreas9472 FSR 2.0 is a godsend for 1440p@120hz on my rx580 better than 1080p upscaling.
@@woobilicious. FSR works on low-end systems. It is a godsend on my Steam Deck. DLSS however only works on high-end systems.
Not really a short time, it's been 3+ years now. And double the price. So it offers far less value, it is not inflation but greed and destruction of PC world
Good and clear video. It shows the evidence of the amount of performance for the weight and volume in copper. Competing with yourself is not bad but not good in GPU market, makes your product better but not comparable with the others. When the nanogravure is smaller for the biggest part of the chip, that performance per watt shows much more. Having to raise the power up to 350-400watts to 450-600 to make a real difference makes me remember that my next GPU will last much more time that I would have expected, without driver cheats or color depth, tesselation cheats for performance. Idk how it will be for the future but, as long as the computer doesn't turn people deaf with coil whine or, fan thrusters to cooldown, should be fine but we won't see much difference now I guess...
7900xt is looking good for me. Coming from a 2080FE, I kinda refuse to pay for the 80 series, and the 2.5x vram means I’ll have some overhead for long term use.
Thanks for the review.
Apparently there's some significant idle power draw issues with these cards, particularly with dual monitor setups. I hope they fix it before the mid-range stuff arrives because I was really hoping to finally replace my GTX 1060 with an RDNA 3 card. The main thing holding me back on the cheap 6000 series stuff is that I really want an AV1 encoder (I don't want to deal with a second cheap Intel card just for AV1)
The X count graph is the most important! Thanks for the deep Insight!
Is there a quality difference between AMD X and Nvidia X? I guess because arc doesn't have enough X it performs so bad?
waiting on the arc-X cards
Yes, you nailed it. No one ever talks about Intel's biggest mistake: They didn't name it Arx
I wonder if AMD will release the RX 7700 XT as the 7900 X and the 7600 XT as just the plain 7900. Personally, I'm looking forward to their 4090 competitor; the RX 7900 XTXTX.
Love the first benchmark and the clip at the end. Good times!
Question for GN: Do you think driver maturity over time for this line of cards will help improve performance to where it justifies the pricetag(s)?
I had the same question. AMD is well known for releasing products with beta/sub-grade drivers. I was hoping the XTX numbers would be just a bit better.
Can’t speak for GN I don’t think we’d see more than a 5-10% increase from driver improvements unless they are seriously have baked from AMD.
Prices will come down when both AMD and NVIDIA actually feel pressure to move more cards and walk back their insane pricing.
Till then we are stuck with the prices we have now.
question for you, why do you sound like u are ok with them releasing half baked products but rage when non-amd companies do the same?
Of course it will. It happens with every new product. Same goes for Nvidia as well. I am still seeing gains on my 1080 with the new drivers being pushed out.
Thank you for shining more light into the X benchmarks
Liked instantly for the X benchmark's. A true one of a kind benchmark.Looiong forward to more industry leading breakthrough methodologies from GN!
@Gamers Nexus, what’s do you guys think if the 7900xt was $800 instead and the xtx is $1000, would the xt be more worth it?
I think I'll wait for next generations RX 8900 XTXTX
Loved that X graph, loved it. Love all you guys do. Keep these companies honest.
can you add the peak power draw for this card? i just got mine, and it keep cause my PC restart with my current 750W PSU. and it seems it will easily go over 350w with 80% load....
u need 1000W PSU for XTX.
should i get the 7900xt or the xtx for 4k? here in my country its 300euros difference
i just wanna go back....
to a time where houses werent 500k
graphic cards arent 1k
cheap economy cars arent 22k+
PLZ TAKE ME BACK
It'll only get worse.
1k GPU is the least of your worries right now. There is not a single game that justifies an expensive GPU purchase.
Houses and rent could use a discount though. It's too expensive everywhere.
Nice info but it's worth taking local prices in to account before pulling the trigger. Here a 6950 XT is usually between £900 and £1000 with the 7900 XT listed for pre-order at around £1000 so it's definitely worth getting the newer card over the previous gen as you just don't have that saving.
same case in Straya
Αhhhh more soothing relaxing reviews with rain sounds
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Got a XFX 7900 XT for 779 new. This is where it SHOULD have started at. At this price point it makes good sense, not at 899.99
These cards would have killed it at $599 & $799
Murder death killed! Heck even at 699 and 799 lol but we need this insanity to stop gpus shouldn't cost more than 699 top of the line whatever that is.
I agree. You can thank scalpers and the last two years of inflated prices for where we are at. The tariffs are coming next.
The 4090 would have killed at 1$. Dream on, buddy.
economic inflation!!!! global shortages!!!! world events!!!! sorry, but desktop computer hardware isn’t the sole focus of the world right now. maybe next year… 😒😒
So grateful for the x benchmarks, this was the deciding factor for me. Thanks Steve!
But how about the amount of "X" per seconds?
@@fajaradi1223 Great idea, this will need to be further discovered in future reviews.
i just wonder what kind of driver did you guys use for that rdna3 benchmarks becuse side like coputer base did use older 22.9.1 driver for it 7900xt/x benchmarks
no the 22.11.1or 22.11.2 and of cause not the new 22.12.1 driver
i think its a big probleme when people do see bad benchmarks on beta drive and "think yep that the performnce you will get" vs gpu whit at last finale or updated drivers
also looks like amd is working on a new driver to fix some power and downclocking bugs
saw cp rt benchmark where the 7900xtx did downclock itself to like 1.8ghz and i dont think that normal when it also says gpu is running at 100% on 1.8ghz
Could you add idle power consumption to the charts? I read somewhere that these new Radeons have much higher idle and/or low load consumption than the Nvidia cards. My computer is on for 15 hours a day but I'm only gaming for maybe 5 hours max, rest of it is idle or watching youtube so this would be good to know.
Hey Gamers Nexus, have you considered including power consumption at different use cases (especially idle is interesting for me) like Igor's Lab does - maybe I just missed that? Having multiple sources for that would be a huge benefit for me (also for future gpus). The 7900XT and 7900XTX seem to be especially bad at idling.
I think linus included that. They found up to 140w idle or down to 40w depending on the monitor that was plugged in. For some reason.
@@IIHawkGamingII this confirms Igor's finding for around 40W (ua-cam.com/video/s8oGYtASJnY/v-deo.html ). You can't really call that energy efficient, when your gpu idles the most time.
I love the X benchmark, WAY TO GO GUY'S! Awesome and much appreciated. Love it!
I was waiting for Steve to give the weather forecast in the beginning.
7 months later the 7900xt is 750USD and the 4080 is...well it exists.
I wonder how big of a difference thermal pads, under the backplate where the VRAM is, would make on the memory temp
Managed to snag one for my wife's Christmas build.
Xtx's sold out in seconds and haven't been in stock for msrp since that I could find.
Which graphics card did you use to render the trees in the background behind Steve? They're pretty good, but you should enable ray-tracing to make them look realistic. Good effort though!
I picked up a pair of 3080s for my wife and I last month from a former crypto miner for 750 dollars for both. Going from a gtx 1080 and titan x(maxwell) I am very happy that I waited for the crypto crash to come. Former mining cards aren't necessarily bad for gaming if they were well taken care of, considering I paid the MSRP of one 3080 for 2 of them is a good deal