1v1 vs MbL | Mongols vs Franks | Honor Genghis Khan!
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
- Mangudai are ruined after their nerf in the newest expansions. Or so the story goes.
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“Good luck killing this army ever dude” Genghis Khan, 1211.
34:15
This looks like the strategy choice of someone who's new. Clearly. He was probably just like, "I hear Mangudai are strong, let's just make a hundred of those guys and see what happens."
exactly
We've all been there. Just not against MBL.
should be called 'man-u-dies'
The prediction at 22:12 is marvelous! Viper is really the modern Genghis Khan, raid enemy's villages, hit & run those European knights to dead, and force those helpless seigniors to resign
Yeah, but European lack of huge grazing lands beats mongol horses I'm pretty sure. I'm not a historian though, so don't quote me on it.
@@razahrtelvanni2018 I think the Northern European Plain would have let Mongols pretty much waltz through much of France and Holy Roman Empire, but the Mongols were probably never gonna conquer southern Europe.
Southern Europe have genoese crossbowman those horse riders will get rekt
@@Mini31241 they shouldn't have conquered middle east due to the camel archers... smh.
That prediction was simple because he saw the ostriches (deer) move, indicating there are units there
Behold the hoard of Genghis Khan Approaches!
*thundering hoofsteps*
go 400 karambits.
that game was like a really good movie. the tension and final battle. its all there. thanks viper!
You known, they nerfed mangudai but not Viper so no idea why they did that
@Philip Martin can't remember very well either, I think the last nerf was to the attack animation so hit and run was harder
They added a initial delay on firing arrows. They used to fire instantly when you clicked on an enemy, now there is a small time it takes before they fire an arrow.
I no pig
The last charge is like in The Last Samurai, but knights against arrows
In the end viper was like, "ok I'm here, kill me if you can."
I’ve been waiting for a mass mangudai video. Lol that was awesome at the end
When a nomad civil goes mad.
I understand that in these situations your mind is forward and on rebuilding your vill count when things go south. But why do you never see pros task a single villager to pull out some stone walls in such a situation? Wouldn't it just make their mind a little bit more free? (even if viper knows more or less where the enemy's unit more or less are). Viper definitely had a castle worth of extra stone in the bank at most times from mid to late game.
It must be so tilting to (be good enough to) play viper, and knowing at that point when he has you beat, he's not queuing up any more unit's, just two g letters in response to your own
Genghis Khan would be proud, after all that is how he conquered Asia and half of Europe.
Dmytro Bogdan Poland and Hungary isn't really half of Europe
@@tomh4754 Europe starts from Volga river and Ural mountains, so you know just look at the map.
Dmytro Bogdan still not half of Europe, and also what kind of map do you have that shows tectonic plates lmao?
@@tomh4754 its called map of continents. Western Europe (west of Poland and Hungary) is less than half of Europe.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Europe
I think Mbl should have been more aggressive in Castle. Franks have the advantage in Feudal and Castle, but he didn't push the advantage as much as he should have.
best unit in this game by far
What's the NEW NERF to Mangudqai? I never heard of it.
They have fire delay now. That means if you switch targets they need time to string their bows like CAs. So no more hit and run pala to death. You need to meat shield and patrol.
@@majungasaurusaaaa no they don't, they still fire a lot faster than heavy cav archers, just slower than old Elite Mangudai. Hit and run still more comfortable than Heavy cav archers.
Anti siege bonus is nerfed too, I think?
@@salildeshpande7 No.
@@majungasaurusaaaa I think he means from the base game. Before it was +5 against all siege units, but now it's just rams and +1 to all else
Always the exception.
Wet dream comes true, literally.
Elite Mongudai V.s. Paladin honesty you are insane.
Such a beualtiful sight
It's just me? Or he didn't touched the blacksmith
Kinda satisfying watching paladins die to cavalry archers. He should have went full trash and siege.
Rain wiper
Why Mbl didn't produced any skirmishers? He knew that he wasn't able to kill this army with light cavalry. So why not skirms?
Look at archers tree line for the frank. you'll understand
@@silincer5186 they got Elite skirmishers and miss only 3 upgrades. Seems enough to me
Elite Magadai have
range 4+3
hit point 60+20 (bloodline)
attack 8+3(blacksmith)+1(chemistry)
firing rate 20% faster(civilization bonuses)+ 18% (thumbring)
acurracy 100% due to thumbring, Ballistic hits moving target.
Parthain attack
no ring archer armor.
Elite Skirms for franks have
range 5+2
hit point 35
attack 3+2(blacksmith)+1(chemistry)+2(bonus against against CA)
no thumb ring, no bracer and no ring archer armor.
firing rate normal
accuracy 90%
Pit them together see who wins.
wdym they miss only 3 upgrades lmao, just missing bracer or ring archer armor is already a pretty big deal and even then its not a very good idea to rely on them unless u have to
well! that's a big difference. plus Viper would counter those skirms with his hussar. mongols have one of the best hussar. in fact at this point viper could have counter anything mbl made except paladin but he didn't have that.( i do know Mongols have camels but franks have the best knight line)
My Head hurts from all that Micro
I for one prefer elite conqs!
Need Pala and skims vs magudai
Nhân Lê Frank's skirms are prolly the worst even worse than Turks
Probably not. Pretty much trying to storm with paladins before running out of gold was the best MbL could do with Franks. Given to how paladins melted under mass Mangudai, the French skirmishers with no bracer nor third armor upgrade with fare even worse. The match probably had an unbalanced civ match-up.
Aoe should improve AI of Knights, have no sense that cav archers be the terror of those only because they have no agility
Knights are coubnters for CA, not bacwards
Bellísimo!!
Hail wiper
What a fuckin war!
nice game with best unit in the game
Wow impressive game!
Elite Mangudai>heavy cavarcher?
>>>
TheEmsum yes, it's a straight upgrade if you can afford it
Elite Mangudai are better. If you look at the stats they will seem pretty similar but Mangudai have faster attack rate and a bonus against siege. That's why Viper could take out the trebs and save his castle in this game.
Far more importantly, they look absolutely gorgeous. Even your opponent feels bad cutting them down
Split formation is actually the best for scouting, even with a larger group of units.
Love watching the lamer MBL take a loss!
Hi viper
very nice
Viper vs chimsedinang ( aoe)
MBL Sucks not a single Skirm? or RAM out of wood???
Moar liek mbLEL
great game
32:48 but a bitch ain't one
Genghis Kek
Manguguys
nice
magudais op
Bro play CBA
Does he knows skirms units?
What a waste of constant bulling heavy cav (slower than cav arch)! And franks with so few castles!
I dont understand why so much people always think that they must make only the special units with tiny bonus of a civ without even considering the counter units! Even hand canoneers would have been better than paladins here considering the only mangudais army! And the raids were even so poor: not even one tc destroyed! You mix 50 skirms with about 30 halbs (to counter eventual light cav) and 4 trebs to block, and raid behind with 30 paladins to destroy eco and siege, coming back to be healed (in my humble opinion).
And with that cheap army he would have gone imp way before too.
About 300 paladins lost for only 2 buildings razed is insane! All eco can be protected from mangudais raids by the cheap and strong frank castles.
baby mongols got rams and Best LC in the game , hope for franks were to kill vipers castles before Viper cant mass mangudais, Mangudai is lethal in good hands
Paladins are good against Mangudai unless he gets a critical mass like Viper did in the end. Franks skirms are complete trash, lacking thumb ring, Bracer and Ring Archer armor. Hand cannons would completely melt as well. MbLs strategy was ok, but didn't work out in the end, If he had tried to tech switch into halbs and shitty skirms he would have lost way sooner.
@@Gammelmann with his mid push, instead of the eco he should have trebbed down the castles
@@BagiTv Yes, that is fair enough. I was replying to the other guy though who gave MbL shit for not going skirms or Hand Cannons 11
@@Gammelmann nono, clearly top 5 player in the world doesn't know that skirms counter archers, like oc suggests ;)
again mbl? tired of this