Should Players Pull the 5-Star Robin, Topaz, or save for Jade?
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- Опубліковано 31 тра 2024
- In this video, Iyo discusses whether or not players should Should Players Pull Robin, Topaz, or save for Jade in Honkai Star Rail? With the latest release of Honkai Star Rail v2.2, Robin has made a gigantic wave as the next best limited 5-star Harmony unit entering the meta. With the ability to advance the entire team forward and give a tremendous damage buff team wide, it makes a lot of sense why many players are stuck between choosing the FUA enabler for their team or the FUA buffer that benefits heavily from having the enabler on the team. Tough decisions indeed..
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0:00 Yooo
1:25 What is the Ideal FUA Team?
4:49 Should I Pull Topaz, Robin, or Jade?
15:11 Let's Recap it All - Ігри
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The urge to pull Topaz over Robin, not for the FUA support, but for the pig…
do it for Numby
@@petalparry Is Numby worth 70-160 pulls? (Yes.)
So huge for the treasure boxes omg
Numby is the goat. Also Ratio and Topaz doing 4 hits in a row in one action is so satisfying lmao
I pulled for Topaz, but I fell in love because of Numby.
I lost robin 50/50 I lost topaz 50/50, and before all that I lost aventurine 50/50, and now I don't have enough jades for topaz, it seems I am not building that FUA team 💀
Skill issue
Womp womp, just roll better xD
I hit Aventurine 50/50 at 73, Robin 50/50 at 48, and Topaz 50/50 at 74, as a F2P. Before that I hit Acheron at 74 and her LC at 57. We are 5-0 baby.
That's rough buddy
Better luck next time
Did you pull on a lc banner or standard banner? The pitty from those don't transfer over I think. You should have guaranteed one of the characters if you lost that many times
Real answer: pull all three so you can run the best follow up team 😂
i love CC’s be acting like they ain’t seen the leaks 😂😂😂
Same 😂😂😂
Some don’t but I get what u mean
then they act so surprise that they actually got it all correctly, what a coincidence!
They signed an NDA probably. You know how much Hoyo hates leakers.
Real answer is: don't pull. With the amount of powercreep we're getting we should be saving until your account isn't able to clear content and only then consider pulling. This or pull whoever you like, disregard the meta. But if you'd be pulling only the characters you like then you wouldn't be here, would you?
💯
I pulled topaz for personal reasons already (I like her overworld utility and it's satisfying to hit a lot of fuas) I don't need the fua team to be super cracked cause I have an OP Jingliu and DoT team lol. I just wanted to hear his thoughts.
Not that straightforward - limited supports have had infinite longevity so far. Robin is BiS for FuA comps and I don't see that changing until years down the line. We might get FuA comps that don't want a Harmony but for FuA comps that do, Robin will be the best for the foreseeable future.
Moreover, we get enough pulls for an Express + BP buyer to get (on average) an E0 copy of every character in the game. F2Ps are somewhat behind but there's no reason to be this stingy with your pulls - it frankly will just make the game more boring for most people. This game is easy and generous enough for there to be absolutely no reason to be as conservative as most people in this community seem to be.
actually i would be here
i might be a waifu player but videos like this are still useful for giving insight
@@27Ganon not too sure about Robin will stay best FuA support for a long time. For that to be true, her attacks should have counted as FuA attacks and not "additional attacks" (or at least trigger on all targets of an aoe attack not just one).
FuA triggering FuA is in my opinion the main theme to strive for which is why I personally think Topaz is the last character to get powercrept, unless they release 2 dps that abuse FuA the way Topaz does and better.
Who really cares though, I pulled Topaz and want the best for her :D
I lost my 50/50 to bronya so I went for Topaz and she’s really fun lmao that follow up attack is crazy. So I’ll be getting Robin when she comes out next time cause I have two months to save for Firefly/sam and Jade.. I saw what I saw and yeah I’m
Getting them both
I rolled hard for Topaz (E1S1) because I'm a goon, but she really made me realize how much I love FUA. Getting Clara while saving for her helped, as did having Blade and Jing Yuan beforehand. Absolutely no regrets at all, I'd say she's necessary for FUA. Then again, I never considered Jade could be an AOE FUA Enabler.
Since I have Ruan Mei and Sparkle already (and recently got Bronya), I don't really think I'll roll for Robin despite her obvious advantage with FUA teams because I dunno if it'll be that big a difference; if halfway through the banner it seems to be otherwise based on creators' observations, maybe I'll try to get Robin.
F2P as well so "Roll on all of them" isn't in the cards. Aventurine also just bled my jades dry, so I'd have to get lucky with those free warps.
Well, i COULD grab topaz but this is the second time ive lost on her banner, first to bronya on her first run and now to clara e2.
I got robin and her LC in barely any pulls before that but im not using my guaranteed on topaz e0s0, ill just save for firefly and build a breaker team, my Fua team works pretty well as is, having all the pieces except her but unfortunately i just cant win on topaz.
I've also lost Topaz twice. To Welt. He came home instead of Kafka too. He's E4 now 🤣🥲 Boy, would I ever have loved a Himeko or Clara instead. At least not Ice Boy or Dragon Girl. I don't want any more of them either 🙅🏻♀️
@@hazardsigns I lost on Kafka too, got e1 clara, then I lost on acherons lc and got Clara's (threw 80 more pulls at it bc I wasn't taking that L), then now I lost on topaz and got e2 clara. Guess I'm a clara main
This was my situation too but I chose Robin over Topaz even though I have Ruan Mei and Bronya and built a Ratio Hypercarry with Aven and SW instead of IPC FUA team.
Topaz is good but given that Ratio is debuff reliant and needs consistent 3-5 debuffs on the enemies. At E0S0 she can only land 1 and that's where her Sig LC or E1 or both becomes a must for her to be an effective SubDPS and Debuffer for Ratio. It already costs a lot of jades to an eidolon or their Sig LC because you need to secure getting the character first.
I've always believed that pulling Eidolons and Sig LC should be optional because having new characters is more important in this game since it gives you a wide roster of team comps and characters needed.
With regards to Topaz, I guess she's the character where in cases that you don't have her and plan to build a Ratio FUA team, make sure you can secure either E1S0, E0S1, or E1S1." but of course, for those who really like her, this factor can be disregarded.
This helped me decide. Going for Topaz. Thanks :)
not sure if this'll be seen but in an interesting situation, back when she first came out i got lucky and E1'd her, while i like robin's design i'm more tempted to pull for topaz again, would I be better suited in pulling for Topaz's lightcone of which i have none, or continuing pulling for more eidolons of Topaz?
To answer a question about yanqing, yes the game registers it as a followup.
I wanted to see how well hed work with aventurine/hanya
TLDR: Yes if u didnt get Ruan Mei or Sparkle. Yes if you give a shit about FUA teams, which in this case gives more incentive to pull Jade. Otherwise, Hard Skip. Personally, Im skipping Boothill to save for Firefly and Jade.
What if get boothill and firefly? So we can run Ruan, MC, boothill, and firefly?
@@snorlaxdayo no healer? Pog
Thing is, Sparkle and Bronya focus more on hyper-carries like DHIL and Jingliu, while Ruan Mei and Robin focus on teams like DoT and FuA. So even if you have Sparkle, you'd still have a good reason to pull Robin.
Ruan Mei will get a rerun soon
@snorlaxdayo only issue with that team is that your SP management will be dog water.
wow his expectations are so accurate to leaks. i wonder why…
Because he saw the leaks….but he also can’t promise anything till it’s revealed so he doesn’t face backlash
i wanna build ratio soon, but don't know if i should try to get robin or topaz (if hypercarry ratio or dual dps is better). i have ruan mei, and could use a team like: ratio, topaz, aventurine, ruan mei. my question is, is it more worth to pull robin, to replace ruan mei, or go for topaz for dual dps with ruan mei. i have every harmony except for robin so far, so for hypercarry, i could use sparkle or tingyun.
there's no way i could get topaz' lightcone, so i would have to go with swordplay. for harmony i'd have dance dance dance.
I have Aventurine and Dr. Ratio already (they are the only five stars I have-I started playing HSR like three days before Acheron’s banner ended), and since them and Topaz + Robin make a really good time I want to pull for them both. However, I doubt I’ll be able to pull them both this banner, so which one of them should I pull for instead? Like who helps Aventurine and Dr. Ratio the most
I need a clarification i was planning to pull for Imbibitor Lunae and sparkle in their next rerun but in this moc cycle its difficult to complete with any main dps for fire and imaginary so should i go for topaz or skip and save for other characters.
what are the cons of both robin and jade? I'm really short on supports now so should i try to pull jade now or just wait for black swan rerun?
What's the last music?
Love the IPC Emergency team! Was wondering, If I currently have Topaz E0 S1 and Aventurine but without his LC, what's a better pickup between Robin and Topaz E1? Right now, I use Mei instead of Robin
Since you have mei, S1 is probably better. Robin only barely beats out Ruan mei in fua teams. Whereas topaz will continue to enable each and every fua user you slot in her team
I don't have sparkle or ruin Mei but I also don't run FUA team so I cant really get the best out of Robin so I think I might just skip Robin and wait for Ruan Mei rerun
This is a good plan.
What's more you can wait for Adventurine and Ratio rerun too. So pickup the FUA team parts later.
You don’t need to run FUA for robin, robin works perfectly fine for non follow up comps. If you don’t have Ruan Mei, she’s definitely worthy enough to get
@@MajeedBelle yeah exactly that's what im planning on doing tbh. I just hope ruan Mei comes soon
@@BladeVoltz after more research it’s true but i suspect Ruan Mei should be getting a rerun pretty soon so I’m just going to wait for that
Do you jus like ruan Mei more?@@shelalex99
So i have topaz and her light come and robin but i lost didn’t get robin lightcone should i go for robin light cone or topaz E1?
Ended up using my ~150ish pulls to Robin and Topaz LC. Already had Topaz & Numby themselves from their initial run. So I have Topaz/Ratio/Robin without Aventurine though.
Now I have Harmony options for everything but excessive SP usage since I skipped Sparkle. I got Support options for Break, FUA, and Hyper-Carry. Shouldn't have to worry about Harmony 5*s for at least the rest of the 2.X series.
Now I'm in the debate of pick 2, Fu Xuan LC (Got Fu Xuan 1st Run), Firefly, or Jade. I think I'll end up sitting on resources until Firefly/Jade kits get revealed to decide my picks. I get the feeling Firefly will be the one pushed aside since after Jingliu/Blade/Himeko I don't think she has a good chance of providing something my setups can't cover already. In Jade's case, I didn't take Argenti or Jing Yuan, and Serval/Himeko are more midway between Erudition and Destruction. Then for Quantum coverage I don't have Seele, I mostly use Xueyi for that.
I got Topaz (won my 50/50) and I am now saving for Firefly . I didn’t pull Robin because A. I just personally have been waiting for Topaz since I lost 50/50 on her first banner. B. I personally perfer Ruan Mei weakness break efficiency and would rather wait for her re run especially since I pulled Sparkle and I have multiple other harmony supports.
Same bro
thing is if ruan mei reruns with firefly then u might nto get both
Is it optional to run robin on a Acheron team I have Acheron ave swan ratio himeko bronya and yanqimg so right now I don’t know which way to go with my acc and Acheron is my main team right now
TL:DR You can use Robin and Acheron together, but it might not be ideal unless your Acheron is e2.
If you have e2 Acheron, then yes, it'd work well. Otherwise...
Robin, Sparkle, or Ruan Mei can be used with any team pretty much, so you'll want to eventually get 2 of them on your account. But if you have E0 Acheron, you'd probably end up with similar results with Acheron, Swan, Pela (or any 4* nihility), and a sustain. This would free up Robin for your 2nd team for tougher content, since she's versatile.
But if you just want to use Acheron, Robin, Swan, and a sustain, that'd work fine too. There's nothing fundamentally broken with that setup that won't work. You'll just miss out on the extra damage from 2x nihility allies in Acheron's kit.
@@OldManInternet thx but I literally just lost the 50 50 to Gepard an hour ago so now I’m on the fence of getting her should I get another dps first or just go for her
@@marquisstevenson7036 Oof, that's rough. It's early enough in the patch that you still might be able to get her if you want her. And if not, you've built pity towards a future unit anyway, so there's no harm either way. Good luck with whatever you go with.
Edit: Aventurine, Robin, Ratio, +a debuffer would be a solid team. And that'd leave Acheron, Swan, + nihility (or Bronya), and Gepard as a solid 2nd option. Then you'd have your themes set for your teams (follow-up for one, and debuff/hypercarry for Acheron.) Then you could mostly ignore break and DoT units in the future until you feel like you have resources to burn.
But if you wanted to pass Robin, and focus on getting break characters to pair with HMC, thats a solid plan too. Especially if you have a e2+ Gallagher from your Acheron pulls, then you'd basically just need either if the upcomming break characters, and possibly Ruan Mei when she reruns.
I had lost every 50/50 until Robin, so I am insanely happy for winning the 50/50 on Topaz's banner too, now I can try saving for Jade 🙏
I recently got Bronya on standard banner while I have been pulling for Robin (who I havent gotten yet) Bronya is now my only 5 star harmony character, so I am wondering if I should get Topaz instead. I like them both, but I know I wont be able to pull for topaz lightcone. Should i just go for Robin? I am planning on getting Jade too.
So this is where dreams are very helpful in decision making (honestly in my opinion the first time they are useful)
So if you don't want to have the same "dream" stop reading here.
So if you look at Ruan Mei and then look at the up coming banners BootHill and Firefly will realize at this point Ruan Mei will stop being a General support and will have an actual team that will outperform any of her other teams (team looks like Ruan Mei, Boothill, Firefly, Harmony MC atm). So what I would do is take a look at your account and ask what you want to build. For me I love Unique teams. Thats why I built a DoT team, a follow up team and I'm gonna try my hardest to get Boothill, Firefly and I hope Ruan Mei's re-run banner is on one of these as well since I don't have her (rip to my wallet). However that is me. If you have no real interest in follow up teams and already have Ruan Mei and already planning on pulling boothill then I would skip Robins banner all together.
What the top 3 teams along ipc follow up ?
Honestly, I was going to get her anyway because I run DoT and Jingliu, so had no real reason to pull for sparkle but something that can at least do a decent impression of a 'second ruan mei' is a big upgrade for me, ended up owning the full followup team along the way and it is a really neat team, I just don't like Ratio so I'm messing around with Clara and stuff.
Who's better topaz for fua? Or jade? I have ratio and Robin. Was thinking of skipping topaz and slotting in jade
Geniune question, where did you get the name "IPC emergency team"?
About a few weeks ago we were in stream talking about Aventurine before he released. I called them Dr. Numby + 1 or something like that, but a viewer in chat just typed IPC Emergency. The kid in me lost their shit because my brain immediately went “SPD Emergency!” And started blasting the power rangers them.
Then I blasted the SPD opening to stream and we all decided that had to be the name.
Yeah I just bought all, got Robin + S1, Topaz + S1, had to spend €600 but you know.. fuck it, I aint scared of sailing the high seas anymore with all the quality content HSR is lately pumping out. 😆
Damn bro, I wouldn't want to be on the opposite side of that team lmao
Oh look, smoothbrain needs to whale to feel successful in game. lmao. you're a loser
U didn't spend money on just the game, u spent it on the happiness it brings you 😎
preach brother. after finishing 2.2 story quest, all the money I spent so far are all worth it!!! 😅
I am in such a tricky spot. 1 ten pull (0 pity) wish 1 Topaz, and then wish 4 same ten pull welt lol. I now don’t know whether to go for topaz E1 or Robin with the guarantee. I am 30 deep on weapon banner so I do have a chance for Topaz or Robin LC. No idea what to do as the impossible happened with getting Topaz early on. Any ideas on what I should do from here?
A new Harmony character will add more dmg and you have a whole new character to play.
Robin is easy to build and an amazing support I would personally go for Robin if you don’t have Ruan Mei or sparkle.
Eh, I disagree. Sparkle, RM, and HuoHuo are all going to get re ran pretty soon and all 3 are much better at low investment compared to Robin. Robin is all about that AV and I don't think she's worth grabbing if you aren't planning on investing into that fully. The only real reason to pull for Robin (aside from just liking her) is if you care about FUA. Even if you did you can just skip Robin still and get Topaz E1S1 and then wait for her re-run to scoop her up.
@@mongrelshadow14 Sparkle isn't gonna get rerun soon at all, her first banner was 2 patches ago man. If Hoyoverse does the dick move again they are probably gonna rerun RM with FF because of break meta, which means lots of players who don't have RM but want FF are now forced to choose and I bet your ass most are going FF because she's more popular and she can still be used with HMC. Robin is a universal support, no matter what she WILL bring value to your account and even MORE value if you don't have other limited harmonies. I don't understand what you mean "high investment" she needs 120/121 speed and that's it, she has huge dmg and attack buffs and a full action advance that's always gonna be useful i don't understand what you're cooking bro
@@mongrelshadow14 I built my Robin in 5 min. well aside from traces XDD
she needs a bit of speed, ER rope and everything else is attack and whatever. the free LC is decent
@@maxpower004 Watch Iyo's prior video about Robin to understand the investment side of things. I cbaed to write a long response for YT. As far as re-runs go your definition of soon and mine are clearly different. But there's barely any characters that haven't been re ran at least once at this point and they're not going to re-run Acheron/Aventurine before them. I'd rather pull for units that fit into my comps better than pull Robin right now just because she's available.
The immediate value is there but not long term for my account. The other 3 provide more of that. If I was much more into DoT then yeah, I'd probably pick up Robin since that's the alternative to FUA that squeezes the most value out of her. But at the moment I only have Kafka and Firefly isn't a DoT unit. So Robin isn't a smart pull for long term investment on my account.
@@ixirion From my perspective if you're not able to get 2 cycles out of a single use of her ultimate then you're not getting the most out of her. Being able to have a pseudo 200 speed team requires a fair bit of investment at least as far as my account is concerned. I think pulling her just to slap her in a team that's not FUA isn't a good idea nor will you be getting the value she provides. This is why I am looking at the power puff girls. HuoHuo and RM especially do not require much investment to reap their maximum value.
Sparkle requires a bit more via speed tuning her higher than most units I have. But even then I feel that's less compared to what I'd have to accomplish for a top team for Robin.
I currently have Adventurine, Ratio, Topaz, Ruan Mei team. Pull for Robin or Topaz E1?
From what I heard Jade is a sub DPS kind of unit. I’m wondering if i should wait for her or get Topaz. I was able to get Robin, i have doc Ratio and lost my 50/50 on pity 10 so i have a guaranteed (no Aventurine tho). Who should i go for in this scenario?
I have all harmony units so I'm saving. Right now I'm just trying to get topaz lc cause ratio needs that extra debuff.😅
Hey thanks for the vid! I thought my dreams of followup comp were doomed since i used all my pities to e1s1 aventurine, then i got topaz in 2 tickets!
After that i went in for her lc, lost the 75/25 to Night on the Milky Way at 5 pity, then pulled Worrisome Blissful 2 tickets later. This banner has been a roller coaster of emotions LOL hoping i can squeeze one last lucky 5 star on robin but im happy with this if I cant
I just went to twitch to hear your outro…. I get it. UA-cam generally doesn’t like those kind of comments about the Portuguese
what's the outro ?
Had this dilemma patch day. Then I won the 50-50 on Topaz at 45 pity, then got her LC at 50 pity. Then won the 50-50 on Robin and got her E1 the next 10 pull. Aventurine clutched up to bring his teammates home
Who should i pull for? T_T I am so conflicted because i already have sparkle and e1 bronya and the dps's i use are jingliu and ratio, should I still pull robin over topaz?
I actually dont think u need robin because u already have harmony and dr ratio with topaz works so good
is that a digimon world 3 bgm?
I'm probably skipping jade since I love my Clara so much. I already have aventurine and topaz so Robin is a good investment
I didn't have any plans to get Robin (due to financial reasons) but since the game gave me Topaz in one 10 pull only 7 pity in, Robin just might be in play now, even if I don't build her right away
Bro what is this guys regular outro?! Been watching him for madd long and still don’t know lmao!
What’s the top 3 teams? I’m curious cause I’m still working on my 2nd team, started around last month😊
I think DoT (Kafka + Black Swan/other DoT characters + harmony + sustain) and FuA (Robin + Topaz + sustain + another fua character) are now similar in strength with the release of Robin. Acheron Carry is stronger than both of them (Acheron + Pela + another Nihility character or Sparkle + sustain).
@@rrenpaii hmm, Acheron team is my 1st team and I have jingliu and luocha built on my 2nd. I’m in the middle of building robin, but I don’t have bronya yet🤔
@@patrick6210 Jingliu + Luocha + Robin is very solid, no real need for Bronya. Luocha and Robin are both skill point positive I think, so you may be able to add another dps to that team and be fine - which is also the ideal way to use Robin since she will have 2 dps character to buff up.
Tbh, at this point you can skip any character and only pull for those characters you absolutely want 👍
@@rrenpaii seriously? But I kinda want to do that meme team where bronya advances jingliu then robin advances everyone and so on. I feel like I’ll be hella fun. But if I lost the 50/50 I wouldn’t mind losing if it gave me bronya or himeko, just had to get gepard, a lesser version of aventurine tho😕
I lucked out on this patch, won 50/50 on both banners. Ended up getting both light cones too. Still can’t clear hard content. I’m the definition of skill issue. I have no more resources to level my others characters either.
Surely adding Jade to my roster will finally fix my account 🤪
I was bored 2am and got Robin Pity 81 50/50, I was planing to skip this patch and sabe for huohuo, Ruan mei and Kafka. Since the thing Was done, I tried topaz and got bronya (finally), now Im trying to make another plan, continue to aim dot team( I have none of them) or try topaz and wait for aventurine rerun. With Ratio and Robin, who can I use in this team? Topaz would Go well without cone or e1?
The main reason people are talking about e1 or s1 topaz is it is a pretty damn good improvement but the core reason is that e1 or s1 is considered a 3rd debuff for dr.ratio which is all the debuffs requirements ratio needs to guarantee the chalk throw from him (he needs 3 debuffs when using skill and he applies 1, topaz mark is 2, and e1 or s1 is the 3rd one). Outside of dr.ratio e1/s1 is a nice damage boost but it doesn't enable anything important. Tbh every other currently available follow attack characters don't need e1 or s1 topaz its just more damage as topaz job in these other teams is being the single target damage that these characters would like.
I can't imagine Kafka getting a rerun anytime soon so DoT might be out of reach for you as there is no replacement for what Kafka does. Like its really hard to invest in DoT without actually owning Kafka or unless they make a new DoT detonator.
Ooh fun!! I like seeing where you are RN your actually li where I am too!! I'm also thinking of getting dot characters, an yea if you want you can go for topaz, don be scared to move things around an skip her if you don like wha you see if her tho li wi anything jus do whaeba you like best
When building up the IPC dream team priority though should always be Topaz over Robin if you're deciding between the two since if you have an E6 Asta you basically with Aventurine she buffs the team fine with atk% and can run broken keel with Aventurine. Plus more speed = more turns = more dps. Plus she buffs Topaz damage with her own traces.
Need some help. Just started a new acc and got really lucky, I got adventurine robin and e1 topaz. I have enough jades in events and missions to guarantee Topaz's sig. Lc, but i don't know if i need it. Let me know what you think!
If you have a new account, I would personally save your jades for other characters. The 5* light cone crushing the stellar sea is pretty good on topaz based on damage calcs I have seen. On top of that, the light cone swordplay is also really good on Topaz. So she has really good alternatives. If you really like topaz though and you don't have these options, it may be worth considering. Some banger characters are coming up though, so I know for me what would take priority.
Also, just so you know, you rarely 'need' a 5* light cone or 5* character imo. It may make things much easier, but most 4* characters are also pretty good and can still clear most content. Keep that in mind whenever you have to decide for light cones or characters.
Thanks for the perspective. Probably not gonna pull the lc. Will just save now
I wanted Aventurine, i skipped to save for hopes that I'd hear dreams of Sunday becoming playable
There's still no dreams of Sunday coming any time in the near future so there's another character I'm eying that has the potential to be a support for Acheron in 2.4 i think
yeah. sad. he is my fav character. I am half pulling Robin for brother sister duo. I rly hope they can work together
@@ixirion i hope that too 🥰 good luck on ur pulls
@@jessicabowman7169 to you also :)
Man the Digimon world 3 music really be bumpin good vibes❤
That’s my comfort game. 😃
I got robin but now the question is should i go for topaz e0 s1 maximum or skip her for e1 s1 jade leaks say its crazy
Jade might do something completely different. Topaz buffs FUA, and Aventurine benefits off of FUA. Both benefit off of FUA, so she probably will as well. However cus she's new, Jade has a high chance of doing something new.
Topaz has been my cursed character to get. Lost my 50/50 on her 1st run, then again on this one. Finally got her, but then lost the 50/50 on her LC... It'll be awhile till I can reliably get another Limited 5*.
I’m really thinking whether I should pull for new characters or pull for eidolons.
Just started playing a couple days ago and I think I missed ratio by a matter of hours/days. Such a pain, physical trailblazer builds for the win I guess.
honestly id ignore fua teams unless you already have both robin and topaz, prob also aventurine. just save for ruan mei if you want a harmony support. otherwise you kinda have to just get all of em
If you don't have a Harmony 5* no point in waiting for RM just pull rn. Its a world of difference from no 5* Harmony.
@@aidanarmaggeddon i mean thats true, in this new harmony landscape without a 5* one would be scary
@@aidanarmaggeddonTingyun, Harmony Trailblazer, Yukong and Asta are goated definitely felt like a 5 star when I use them in all content and utterly dominate it. Its better to wait for Ruan Mei for break effect buff which is more rare since theres only 2 characters in the whole game that can buff break effect in a huge way compared to a whole lot of Harmonies can just use DDD for a lot of teamwide action advance.
@@kennethyoung7457 honestly harmony tb feels fun, but i feel like i need ruan mei to use them right. Tingyun is definitly amazing though, its just the new 5 star harmony characters are just on another level
@@kennethyoung7457wha you on abou!!? No one can do near wha she has eben wi ddd eben asta can't, I get not liking robin, or liking break more, bu break is not rarer if anything it's less rare cause 1 free break support in h TB an 2 anyone can build break affect, an robin is really unique an really strong, I get not liking her or thinking she's too difficult to use comfortable, id disagree wi the comfort thing kina bu still id get tha, bu acting li ruan mei is far more important is jus a lie, if you don hab either both are around the same level, bu id say robin is slightly better fo new pickups not enough to matter much tho necessarily
Ended up getting 2 robins on my first 10 pull and then 2 topaz in 100 pulls my luck was insane yesterday
Is E2 worth it for robin? @Comment Section
My guy has the digimon world 3 music playing in the back. Lol respect
Might Get into the Dreamy Aspects that are currently in Beta (If you don't wanna look, then you can wait for Closer to Jade's Release for the Synergies) I don't know why People think that it's wrong to theorize that she might be a FUA character (What do you think she'll be then) A Quantum DPS that Powercreeps Seele and QQ and is designed to be Hypercarry. If you want her being a FUA DPS to be comfirmed to you. Wait for Livestream in Early June. (But from what I have been seeing she's AOE Topaz (but Designed for AOE FUA Characters that Perfectly Synergize with Her. Here are what I think about her Synergies below (Don't Click if you'd rather wait towards Closer to Jade's Release to think about Synergies)
Jade and Himeko will have a anti-synergy when it comes to (15% CR above 80% HP Talent) cuz some HP Draining Shenanigans are going on and if you have E1 Himeko, (It gives you a Similar sized SPD Boost So I'd Skill on Herta rather then Himeko and get them either to 2 turns in a Cycle (134 SPD) or 4 turns in 2 Cycles (160 SPD)
Topaz and Aventurine can Work with Jade, but Topaz and Aventurine need to be Built Quite fast as (Topaz only counts towards 2 HIts), and Aventurine fast so you can Retrigger his 3 Follow ups towards his FUA faster. (Asta/Robin/Ruan Mei can Easily take the 4th Slot)
Jing Yuan could be good with Jade for the 2 turns before LL gets a lot easier with ATK boots, but other then having a Nice dual DPS between Two eruditions, but all Jing Yuan gets is SPD. E1S1 Topaz or Asta/Hanya/Tingyun would be better for the General then Jade. (And Asta and Hanya already give SPD Boosts.
Maybe the Anti Synergy between Himeko and Jade could be fixed with Loucha & Maybe Huohuo. (Huohuo would need to Skill more Often) while Loucha would need a lot of ERR to consistently have his Healing field up.
Herta and Jade work together Really Well (You might want Aventurine/Fu/Gepard as Herta's HP isn't the Highest.
Unless you wanna do IPC+ Ratio comps in SU or outside of SU or your willing to put a Debuffer or E0S1/E1S1 Topaz over a Buffer in the 3rd Slot, Don't Run Ratio and Jade together. Ratio only gives 1-2 stacks towards her 8 Stack FUA and needs a debuffer to consistently apply that Second stack to Jade. E0S0 Topaz (With Debuffer rather then Buffer) E0S1 or E1S1 Topaz (With Harmony rather then Debuffer) Pela, SW, and any Harmony unit work better with Ratio then Jade.
Blade and Jade have some Interesting Dual DPS synergy with each other (Blade would love the SPD while Forgoing SPD boots for HP Boots) and you can get his FUA faster from another source (Other then Jingliu or Lynx) put Ruan Mei, Robin, Or if you have some vertical Investment into Sparkle, she can also work)
Lastly, Clara, Clara doesn't want SPD and I don't know what the HP Drain would do for her other then make her less Tanky against enemies, E0/E1/S1 Topaz/Pela/Tingyun/Ruan Mei/Sparkle/Robin are better in a Clara Comp.
I'm not gonna mention Arlan (Other then his Ultimate he's Single Target (But aganist any Quantum Weakness enemies (for what I will Mention maybe that doesn't matter) but Jade could provide some Decent Dual DPS synergy with Samfly. (She already gets 50% Energy by Skill (Unless they decide to nerf her Skill to make it more then a 2 turn Downtime (Though if it is 2 turns (Firefly's Just like Jingliu in Downtime Uptime) and the SPD (Combined with Firefly's 50 SPD, Ruan Mei's 10 SPD, Jade's 30 SPD and Asta's 50 SPD and Assuming (I don't know if it works this way) but build Firefly for 130 SPD and that gets you to 270 SPD, (If it works this way) Firefly could get another Action before her 90 SPD Countdown module (Compared to the 180 SPD Breakpoint)
Jade might be in a Better State then Topaz on her Release, but she is Missing a Synergy which perfectly Synergizes with her HP Drain and wants a lot of SPD and follows the Path of Erudition, The AOE sect of Nihility, or Destruction.
And her typing is kinda dumb too. AoE quantum - for what? The deer? Nah I'll go for Sam, thanks for the info bro.
@@nightmarewolf1710 I also plan on Skipping her (The only reason I'll get her on a Rerun is if a Future AOE FUA unit I want in the Future has Synergy with her and the comp looks super fun, otherwise she is an Easy pass for me cuz I already have a Lot of fun with Topaz FUA and I am not really that interested in her as a Character.
🎉 thanks for the video. I am also an enjoyer of the FUA mechanic, so no matter what Jade does, I'll pull for her 😆. I got robin, looking to skip her LC and get Topaz's LC.
I’m gonna throw some pulls on topaz banner maybe or robins since I’ll need topaz LC but I need to skip for boothill and firefly I might brick my account a bit since I have a well built ratio and aventurine but I just dont have the funds to get them and a boothill and firefly
Fucking bless that Iyo is saying what I've been saying about Robin from the get go. Also, if Robin is so important you can get her in 6 months to complete your team then, rather than try to get two characters during the same period. Topaz is more important to FUA teams than Robin is and most importantly, if you miss out on Topaz now, we have no idea how much time will pass until her rerun. For anyone who wants to build FUA teams, Topaz is a must pick up right now, no matter what people say, because they're stuck on the Robin FOMO. Also, we know that Ruan Mei is slated to rerun soon, and Ruan Mei will also function very well in FUA teams, so if you lack good harmony supports, just pick up Ruan Mei who can replace Robin until Robin reruns. There's also something to be said about harmony MC and that harmony MC also fits well into FUA teams because FUA teams can really take advantage of harmony MC's super break.
I don't even think Robin is the FUA support everyone says she is, because while she does additional damage based on team members' FUA, we will see a better harmony support who does their own FUA because it actually counts as FUA and greatly and specifically enhances FUA in a way Robin does not. I'd also argue that Robin's action advance does little for FUA, because FUA teams are about doing damage between turns, rather than on their turns. Hence why Bronya and Sparkle aren't that great with Ratio for example.
For F2P and low spenders who want to build FUA, Topaz should be a main prio over Robin but if you want to generally bolster your account because you lack a strong harmony support, then Robin is a better pickup. I really don't understand why this is a difficult or controversial take. If people want Robin obviously go for Robin, but from a resource perspective with specifically FUA teams outside of Pure Fiction in mind (and arguably, that's also where I think Robin shines the best i.e. in Himeko/Herta teams, but no one cares about that because they're standard characters), Robin is not the main prio. It's even less so if you already have Sparkle and/or Ruan Mei.
Especially since this is topaz's rerun, so we won't know when she will come back, but we know robin will come back much sooner
I need to build a follow up team for pure fiction
I already have Herta and Himeko. Then who shpuld I get cause I am not able to clear even stage 2 and I am day one player lol. And I don't have any harmony supports aside from bronya and tingyun😂 what shoild I do? I also want Firefly and Jade due to personal reasons and Ruan Mei for Firefly and Jingliu😢. Should I just skip both Robin and Topaz.
@@The_Master_Chief338 You have Asta, harmony MC and Yukong as free characters outside of what you can get from the selectors. Asta is good for Pure Fiction because her speed and attack is party wide. If you can't clear PF as a day 1 player, it sounds less like a character problem and more like you just haven't properly invested in your teams i.e. getting up their traces and relics. I use Herta and Himeko on one side and they clear things all by themselves and neither of them are well built but they're ok.
The bottom line here is that getting more characters is not the solution to your account problems. Spending on less characters and investing in more what you have is. The question is why you even need these new characters and what they will do for your account.
Should I get E0 Robin and E0 topaz? Or just get E1 Robin for the 24% res shred
Get e0 topaz and robin. You would benefit way more with topaz and robin.Rather than getting e1 Robin.
i don't have a 5 star harmony i lost my 50/50 should i still use my guaranteed on robin to help out my jingliu
yes
for sure get robin if you don’t have a 5* harmony. they also don’t have bad synergy
@@radiusx89 okis thank u
@@deadbIueit's definitely up to you bu yea it's a good choice, honestly I'm kina wishing I had jingliu cause she's so strong wi robin, she's good wi bronya too jingliu is a very good unit tha helps buffers easily buff her
I think you give Topass too much praise, you really don’t need her in a FuA comp because she doesn’t do much for it unless her attacks help trigger other characters effects as the case with Ratio, Adventurine and Robin. Her damage buff is mid asf. So if Jade doesn’t have a mechanic where FuA help trigger her effects Topass is useless for Jade
The Same argument can be said for Jade, other then the 30 SPD, you don't need her in a AOE FUA comp cuz that SPD buff could be replaced with Hanya or Asta's SPD buff, So maybe you can extend it to "Hypercarry FUA Is the only Way Your Coping if you say otherwise and Replace Topaz with any other DPS and your FUA DPS will be doing the Same Damage!" and that we need a FUA Enabler that Outbuffs the Best Harmony and Nihility (Which Of course Hoyo won't allow unless they Introduce FUA mechanics to a Harmony or Nihility debuffer)
Running Jade in a fua comp doesnt look ideal to begin with because of the hp drain. She will likely be best used as a subdps for destruction characters (ideally ones that do aoe), and sustain healers (not sustain shielders like aventurine).
A fua comp without topaz isnt really a fua team, its either more likely looking like a hyper carry team or a double (sub) dps team like himeko and herta - which only really works in pure fiction.
Lol, you defeated your own argument -- Topaz triggers everyone (including you, apparently). Topaz also deals respectable damage and has high attack frequency, which makes her an excellent breaker, too.
@@unknownorganism69 Aventurine and Ratio do not need their LCs. You're coping hard, buddy. Also, most DPS units that aren't hitting against enemies that are weak to their element will be dealing low damage. What kind of argument is that lol
@@Lewa500 that’s only 3 of the FuA characters, some like Kafka works with ALL DoT characters, hence why I say she is niche I never said she is bad. She only benefits that IPC emergency team
I only have Ratio and aventurine (both E0S1) and i dont know who to choose 😭 i dont have ruan mei and i want Firefly bro is so over
As someone who uses blade a lot I want jadeand I hardly have any Euraditions units built.
Lost Topaz 50/50 on her first banner to Bronya and now I lost the 50/50 again to Himeko on her rerun so I probably wont have Topaz for a while
exact same as me lol, losing the second time and having to wait probably a year or more for her rerun has killed my wish for a FuA team
Since I got Acheron S1E0 feels like other dps are mid.
Bro you and moon got me in love with this Digimon World 3 OSTs. 😂 so many memories
She's a phony. Didn't even know Digimon had games until I came around. She thought it was a Fakemon game. lmao
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i do have robin, but it's kinda hard to move on from RM. BE efficiency is way too good not to use, atleast for me.
You can jus build it on htb an build fo break effect on your characters still XD you don hab to move on either tho, it'll be more strong bu you don technically need to
If the leaks are correct as far as jade’s kit goes then Dr Ratio will be replaced by jade and Topaz Robin and Aventurine Would fill out the rest of the FUA team and I think I would run jade anyways because Jade and topaz can buff each other this will be cracked so I’m skipping Sam and Boot Hill and saving for jade
Does Topaz need her s1 to be good?
Personal opinion, yeah. Other players? They make do without it. I just value that sig LC way more because it benefits the team, not just Topaz.
Her Sig isn't Required to make her Good. It and her E1 Improve her FUA/FUA team peformance. Which Make Topaz even better but E0S0 isn't Unusable Just cuz she doesn't have E1/S1. Just those 2 Eidolon/LC Improve the Peformance of whatever FUA team she is in.
i lost the robin 50/50 so now im deciding on weather i want to pull for firefly, topaz, or boothill
Does Boothill follow up?
No
Robin>>>>the other two
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@@starless0021 Can they sing? Can they be pretty angels? Can they be Batman’s sidekick? Didn’t think so 🤭
Robin gave my follow up comb an real boost, I actually 40k pointed PF4 round 1 in current Pure fiction with 1 turn left and garbage Robin traces. So I can definitely recommend her for pure fiction reasons alone. Also have Topaz, but personally for me it felt less impactful as compared.
Pure fiction team:
Himiko/Herta/Robin/Ruan Mei Team 1
Acheron/pela/BS/Gallagher Team 2
Tried out Topaz in Team1 but, it didn’t provide enough follow up atks since himiko is reliant on broken opponents so put ruan Mei in instead.
I got them both and their lc thanks rng gods 😊
I’m skipping Robin and Sam, if I lose the 50/50 for BootHill I’ll just wait for Jade, if she is a good Quantum dps. I think she would be more like JY and Himeko, where she has a follow up mechanic but not follow up heavy like Topass and Dr. YourHuge
Lost Aventurine 50/50 so all my focus is on Fu Xian. Plus as someone who owns Sparkle, Bronya and Ruan Mei, I really have no use for Robin.
Bro the music in the backround is way too loud
Im a month and in a half in of Hsr with only Acheron and i already got them both i need more 5 stars to play with oh well
Robin doesn't want to come home even with the guaranteed so i guess i'll just skip and save the guaranteed for Jade and i'll try to get her Light cone.
pulled for Topaz but sadly lost my 50/50, now saving for jade and Have 40 pulls.
Man I regret pulling E2 S1 Robin over Topaz.. All she did was basically replace Tingyun on my b team for MOC.. People have recency bias thinking she's anywhere NEAR E1 s1 Mei
Now why the fork did you grab an E2...
She felt kinda mid at E0 then I pulled 2 in 1 summon.. After getting Topaz LC, skipping Robin altogether and just getting E1 Topaz would've been a better move for my account.. I may snipe singles for Topaz E1, but E6 Sam is where my money is going.. Sam artwork is what got me to download the game
Regardless I think everyone should try to pull for Robin, FuA or not, she is a dual and single dps support and it's not every day that they give you a free S5 strong 4star LC especially crafted for her
I won topaz 50/50 (god bless) and now I'm trying my luck for robin, hopefully I get enough stellar jades for that
I really like firefly's design, but right now I have my dps characters (currently Acheron on team 1 and dr ratio and topaz on team 2), I'll only pull for firefly if she is godly with e0 since I still need a good aoe dps other than acheron and herta for pure fiction (eventually I'll get himeko, but so far no luck), other than that I have no interest in jade and I can always pull for firefly on a rerun, my priorities right now are huo huo since I do need a second sustain and I personally don'tlike fu xuan, even though she is op gameplay wise and since her rerun should be close and I can save up some pulls and maybe silver wolf if no new nihility characters release that can do her job better
fu xuans rerun has been confirmed for the 2nd half of 2.2
@@bepo1702 I know, but as I said, I don't like fu xuan as a character, she might be op, but I don't like her
I already have aventurine which, in my opinion, is as good if not better than fu xuan when it comes to preservation units
I prefer to have a healer as my second sustain, again, yes I know fu xuan can also fulfill this role, but right now, no one can heal as consistently as huo huo, plus I like huo huo as a character, so I'll be pulling her in a rerun, which shouldn't be very far off
@@pralenkaman8105 you said her rerun should be close, so I was informing you that its been confirmed for 2.2 2nd half. Sorry for the confusion. Based for waiting for huohuo rerun also
@@bepo1702 oh, fair enough, a fellow huo huo enjoyer, I'm personally hopong for her rerun for 2.4 so I have time to save some pulls for her
@@pralenkaman8105 I want it in 2.3 because im tired of using lynx, we will see what happens though
Topaz which is better e1 or s1?
S1
I'd say if you want to commit to a FUA team get a Topaz however if you want a flexible support I'd say get Robin. If your account isn't really geared towards a certain team comp, Robin has more value in your account in the future compared to topaz. Pulling for Topaz is like investing in the IPC.
I choose everything, lost Topaz pity at 75 but got her at 76, then I won Robin's pity at 75. Now, I have 1600 jades and 2 pulls for Jade.
Or wait for a re run of Robin and get Jade/Firefly.
That is what I am doing. Boothill looks dope as hell but I am on the fence
Sam is gonna power creep boothill just save
@@yamirellik5720 Good thing boothill is 2nd phase then lol. We will see though I am sure they will fulfill different roles
I got topaz initial 50/50, got my 50/50 aventurine, got topaz guaranteed lightcone, got my 50/50 robin so jade will be nice!
Ill just play Jade with Xueyi , Herta and Robin. Idc much about meta , i believe that most caracters are good enough and generally pretty balanced
E1 robin or e1 topaz?
I know Robin fits in the IPC emergency team, but I think Jade, Topaz, Aventurine, and Ratio will be the true IPC theme team. They’re essentially all co-workers.
I kind of want Topaz, but I really want Firefly. (…Robin is kind of meh for me personally.)