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Tama Tonga WWE Debut! WWE SmackDown x AEW Collision Reviews! | WrestleTalk Podcast
Tama Tonga has debuted in WWE after all this time, and he has shaken up this Bloodline into a Civil War! Plus, a full review of an excellent edition of AEW Collision! Luke and Tempest review both WWE SmackDown and AEW Collision!
00:00 - Intro
19:54 - Cody Rhodes promo
22:15 - LA Knight vs. Bobby Lashley vs. Santos Escobar
24:57 - Bron Breakker vs. Cameron Grimes
25:37 - Bayley promo
26:26 - Naomi vs. Tiffany Stratton
29:22 - Grayson Waller & Austin Theory promo
32:18 - Chelsea Green & Piper Niven vs. Bianca Belair & Jade Cargill
33:35 - Kevin Owens vs. AJ Styles vs. Rey Mysterio
38:20 - Jon Moxley wins IWGP Championship
40:44 - House of Black vs. Dante Martin, Action Andretti & Matt Sydal
44:20 - Chris Jericho's new faction?
46:04 - Lee Moriarty vs. Katsuyori Shibata
49:37 - Daniel Garcia vs. Angelico
52:48 - Toni Storm vs. AZM
1:01:47 - Thunder Rosa promo
1:05:12 - Young Bucks vs. FTR Ladder Match
1:07:03 - Blackpool Combat Club vs. Don Callis Family
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Theres one key thing, thats been there since Clash at the Castle, when Solo debuted, its rarely mentioned, but so important. Solo was never loyal to Roman, he was never there, for Roman. Solo was sent, and is loyal, to the Elders.
Yes solo is very much an agent of the Samoan system as it were. Sorry just finished the matrix lol. Basically solo is loyal to whatever the elders say. He's the enforcer. Basically he's building his service record to be the chief one day.
@@theabyss86 Yep, hes either the Tribal Chief now because the Elders commanded it, or one of those Elders, The Rock has placed himself in that position and Solo is still following orders
Solo is always whispering we'll Finnish this I'll Finnish this
Love Solo taking a more prominent role. WWE dropped the ball with Solo after the squash of Cena. Need to keep building the momentum for Solo.
Canonically he’s only lost 1 match since beating Cena. All his losses have been in dark matches or at house shows.
@@jk844100yeah I don't understand why ppl are talking about his house show matches... we don't pay attention to anyone else record in dark matches...
@jk844100 lost a tag to orton. Lost to aj on smackdown, lost a 3v2. Lost to orton on smackdown, lost to knight on smackdown. And knight before crown jewel.
Then the rest are live shows and dark match's. Still hasn't won a match since September 2023
@@shauns28 the original comment is talking about since he beat Cena. He’s lost 1 televised match since he beat Cena.
@@jk844100 apparently all these were telivised
Honestly, this seems like a red herring. This seems like solo being setup as the figure head of this new bloodline, but in reality he is doing the bidding of someone else, the rock. He said by order of the tribal chief, so everyone assumes it's solo, but in reality, it's the rock pulling the strings from behind the scenes. Which will lead to Rock vs Roman.
That would be pretty cool hopefully this year and not mania 41
When Solo debuted it was made very clear that his loyalty was to the Elders, they sent him, it wasnt Roman asking him. Its often forgotten or over-looked. Solo was never loyal to Roman. He was there because the Elders ordered him to be by Romans side. If hes turned on Roman, its because hes been told too.
They had been planning for Roman Rock in 41 for a long time
@@g.g.baxter4868the problem we fans make is that we do remember the stories more than WWE themselves do.
I bet that they themselves forgot about the Elders bit 😂
@@mohamadsorya6718 Normally id fully agree, however HHH seems a bit more clued up on whats already been told. Wouldnt be surprised if all this leads to some sort of story about how the Elders have turned on Roman, even if the Elders are reduced to just The Rock
This is why I love seeing Tempest on reviews, I had no idea, nor did I put together the fact that Shibata never changed from being a Young Lion. That adds so much to him for me.
Miss the Saturday shows already:(
I kept checking over the weekend to see if they had a review out lol
Yeah, the Smackdown review on Monday makes no sense...
Guys, Corey called them The Pride before their match or promo on the Go-Home Smackdown. Dan missed it too.
Shoot I miss that
Wade Barrett called them that on the pre-show.
When luke said "You cant miss someone if they are always there" and tempest said "chris", my first thought was what is tempest on about, kris statlander has only been back less than a year
Didn’t Roman say, in December, that if anything happened to him, Solo would become the new Tribal Chief..?
he did, i was going to post this same message but i forgot the time/date stamp
Me and the lads were at Collision! We all lost our voices heckling and cheering!
Maybe The Rock is the new Tribal Chief giving orders to Solo & Tonga?
A forgotten part of the story is that Solo was never loyal to Roman, he has always been there because of the will of the Elders, if Solo has turned on Roman, its because the Elders have
I always love a Luke and Tempest combo.
I get why they made Bucks/FTR on Duck Dynasty a ladder match. When you look at the rest of the card, there's a lot of technical, ground and pound matches. This is the one match that can effectively devolve to a spot fest, and you really do need one of those on the card.
Bloodline Civil War II, you mean.
Bloodline War II: Samoan Boogaloo
I really hope Solo Sikoa gets a better finisher. Jabbing someone with your thumb just looks a bit silly 😂
It would by other people but not him. With Solo I think it does actually work as a brutal manoeuvre. It's like a move of deadly an silent killer an Solo is perfect at being that.
I'm going to disagree with Tempest on Tama a bit. I think his last few years in NJPW have been great since G.O.D became its own group and we got to see him as a great upper mid card singles star.
I agree a match with Knight won't raise a lot of interest but put him in a match with Sami for the IC title, that's a rock solid match.
As someone who was at the April 12 Smackdown show, it was a good show.
27:46 Interesting to note, the match starting during the break was weird for the live crowd because we didn't get to see the aftermath promo from Heyman at the trainers' room. I only saw it after I watched back the show the next morning.
31:00 : Luke manifesting new tag titles WORKED !!
I hope they send Jimmy to the performance center after that Wrestlemania match
Basically, Hunter is doing the real version of what the nWo civil was story was meant to be. Its great. Bringing Bullet Club OG to WWE. Guerrilla Tactics.
I'm interested in the analytics of these shows, how many people just stop watching when the SD review ends. I would love the Saturday reviews back personally
I rather them be in person tbh
Same. I listen for the Smackdown review, it doesn't make sense to me for them to combine Smackdown and Collision. And I would rather this being on Saturday, even if remotely.
They should add NXT to the Dynamite review if they are going this route.
I'm the opposite: I skipped straight to the Collision review, because I can't muster more than mild interest in WWE. I recognize that I'm in the minority there, mind you, and I'm not knocking it for anyone who does like it. But I'm glad to have the Collision reviews again.
Wargames match idea
The Rock Solo Tama Tonga and Jacob Fatu vs Roman Reigns Usos and Sami Zayn
Why would Roman team up with Sami , he “betrayed “ him
@@jonmel Roman in his redemption arc will probably reconcile with his "family"
It wont be Sami. It will be Seth Rollins.
@@brandonjones180 that's a great idea too
The Monday thing is back
So Luke, will the Collision portion of the review be interchanged with NXT PLE's?
That's not AEW, mate. Gotta shill AEW whenever they can.
They should add NXT reviews to the Dynamite review.
It was actually done by The Rock because technically speaking he considered himself the Tribal chief as he beat Cody and Roman couldn't.
You'll see Roman, Usos and Jacob Fatu against The Rock, Solo, Tama Tonga and Hikuleo
Roman + Usos vs Rock + Solo + Tonga. Calling it
Don't forget Jacob Fatu has allegedly signed and I could see him siding with Solo, so the Usos need one more and I could see it maybe being Sami. Or if they can sign him Tonga's brother and have Jacob side with the Usos.
Exactly, when I saw Tama Tonga on WWE TV, I knew that they needed Tempest on here.
I hope it turns out that The Rock is the one who told Solo to do this so we can get the dumbest moment ever of Roman coming back to confront Solo about usurping his spot at the table and i can get a close up of Solo Sikoa's face (Son of Rikishi) saying, "I did it for The Rock"
I love this so much i can see such cinema coming out of it.
I would love if Roman comes back soon and the new bloodline are destroying him and the Rock comes out
Roman: Help me Uce
And the Rock puts the necklace on and orders them to destroy Roman.
I worry that this will drag and drag and drag until War Games
The Rock...Tama Tonga...Jacob Fatu coming in...The Bloodline is becoming WCW's NWO. We'll have Bloodline Hollywood vs. Bloodline Wolfpack before long😂
Survivor Series. 🤫
Triple H and TK share one thing in common as bookers. They BOTH tend to struggle to capitalize when certain talent get hot. They waste a lot of potential.
Fredo, I mean Jimmy, you broke my heart...
What's the situation with Tanga Loa's contract. If Hikuleo is expected then what about the silverback
The best podcasts is where Tempest and Luke host it. Quick question, I haven't been seeing Laurie Blake anywhere for quite some time now 🤔
nrb full time
@Smackerz88 Oh that's why. Thanks, mate!
Roman Rock in 41 is basically set
This is going to lead to Romans bloodline (as the faces: Roman, Jimmy, Jey) vs Solo/Rocks Bloodline (Solo, TT, Jacob Fatu). If they want War games then you probably add Sami Zayn to Romans squad and either Rock or another fatu member 😂😂
no. seth rollins in roman reigns' bloodline
Jacob is already signed it’s not a rumor anymore lol
Why the smackdown review or raw review or podcast have stopped.
Solo Sikoa should have been on a Goldberg-esque tear ever since squashing Cena.
Roman should have felt him breathing down his neck that whole time and Solo should have gotten more and more frustrated with his place in line and him refusing to really do anything about Jey, culminating in him yelling at Roman to FINISH IT at WrestleMania.
Instead they jobbed him out for months without ever “being held accountable” for it, and now all of a sudden he’s the one punishing Jimmy for losing??
This could have been PERFECT, and instead it’s just very good.
"Mainevent" Jey Uso had 5 minutes of a Personality between Leaving the Bloodline (for his brother who then rejoined the bloodline and we're ment to forget it) and saying Yeet once in a Presser
That led to Jimmy Uso vs Jey Uso not being interesting
It was 1 Uso abusing a Catchphrase and the second Uso just disliking the Catchphrase
They did that Figure four roll thing way back when with Charlotte and Natalya back in NXT in a title match and got roasted for it if I recall. So yeah definitely right about that
I think we could see a new vs old bloodline match at mania like Tempest described. I don't think the Rock will be wanting to do a 1v1. Not having all the focus on the older guys helps the quality of the match unless it's a squash
Hikuleo!?!? Swearrr lol might as well bring Tonga Loa too😂
Civil War Games!
New Bloodline vs New Wyatt Family
NO judgement day vs new bloodline
New tribal chief is Rikishi. "I did it...for The Rock."
Why kill Jay's solo run to put him back to the Blood line though why not take one of those other guys into a face role?
Roman named Solo the next tribal chief should he leave, so that’s pretty good continuity
Unless Solo is just assuming Roman left and just took over, and then Roman comes back and is all pissed about it as he didn't actually leave.
Am I the only one over the smash matches for Cardgill and Breaker? I get wanting to make them look dominant but its pretty obvious when their opponent is already in the ring with no introduction whats gonna happen lol.. Also might be unpopular but I would much rather see Tiffany vs Bailey instead of Naomi vs Bailey. Lastly, do we think Trick Williams or Carmello will be drafted in this upcoming wwe draft? I keep hearing hype on them and they have had a few appearences but they both seem like good wrestlers
They may have to reposition Paul Heyman with someone else and limit the tv time for the bloodline story. It’s run its course and now with Roman losing and leaving, the other guys aren’t strong enough in ring or on mic to carry it. There’s other stories to tell.
I can see Roman coming back at some point in the future to HIS bloodline in tatters, Paul Heyman (sort of ) Forcibly turned against him so he calls the Rock for help to try and get a hold back on things, The Rock will somehow inevitably side with the "New Bloodline" leading to Roman with no choice but to call the Usos to back him up in reuniting the family. Jimmy and Jey of course will be reluctant to team together again but Sammie comes in and helps bond them together again setting the stage for A Rock bloodline and a Roman bloodline match at war games (or somewhere) Solo can win the chamber bigging up his head just enough that he starts interfering in his brothers' matches setting things in place for a brothers' VS brothers handicap match for mania night one (or maybe the Usos Vs. Tama and Solo); culminating in a night two face off between rock and Roman to see who will lead and thusly UNIFY the branches of the bloodline.
I'm not saying rock versus Roman will be for a title. But it's a bit crazy how quick Luke just dismissed that idea. There's every chance that the belt will be back on one of them 2 before they face each other.
Tonga is the Poochie of this story, does this new Bloodline cost Jey the title against DP at Backlash
😢 Bring back the Saturday show
It's seems the Rock is pulling the strings leading up to a clash with Roman vs Rock
Still bummed they didnt bring Tama back for stuff with the good brothers, Finn, or AJ
They wanted to sign him when they signed AJ and The Good Brother but he decided to stay to work with his brothers
@KAOS-zp2zx Oh, I know that, I just mean like it'd be great to see at some point sooner rather than later the faction form again and just run wild
Solo yelling "winning and losing has consequences," is going to become a meme for whenever the booking doesn't make sense.
Why with the rock want a lower title than high chef
The new/ The Rock Bloodline should use psychologic warfare against Paul Heyman. Eventually the mind games and psychology damage, Heyman decide to Quit before Reigns head back from his vacation. Once Jey Uso finish his match against Damian Priest, just bring back The Usos. Im just ready for them to team up again. Hunter still has plans for single runs, just let them be a team still while striking for single gold.
Ahhhh the News ☕☕☕☕☕☕☕☕☕☕☕☕☕☕☕☕☕
Nah, this is FTR/YBs 3, after not long enough to really justify this match beyond the title, i.e., it needed another thing. The EVPs rigging the match in their favor is good for the evolution of the two teams' forever feud and pushes the Bucks' current gimmick forward.
Haven’t watch the smackdown/collision review in a bit. Is Dan gone completely from this review?
I'm really happy aew is making far better use of video packages, however I think they've massively dropped the ball not reshowing Toni Storms supprise appearance at the stardom us show. It provides a LOT of the context for the current story with Mariah and Mina. You have the opportunity to do some real progressive stuff and have a really vital bit of representation, so I think it's aews responsibility to handle this story with care. I feel reshowing that pivotal segment on TV would be the best way of showing the care and attention to detail I feel this story is earning. Especially in a company with Kenny Omega as a figurehead, who broke a lot of ground championing this sort of representation with Ibusbi!
I'm fantasy booking Toni to drop the Women's title to Mina, due to Mariah screwing Toni at a title match. Gives great reason for Mina to stay around, and allows Mina vs Mone later.
I like this format of the review of Smackdown and Collision in a same podcast like the friendos in Going in Raw
Cody
Roman
Sami
Jey
Jimmy
Vs
Tama
Solo
Jacob
The rock
??? Zilla I'm expecting someone hoping for zilla
It was a good show. Long as hell with the RoH taping tacked on. Really good show though. Athena is the best.
Hey why dont we just rename Smackdown after the bloodline too! BECAUSE THIS FAMILY REFUSES TO SURRENDER THEIR CONTROL ON THE MAIN EVENT SCENE
Wiseman on a pole match
What happened to sat e day thought it was back
The stupid part was solo saying loosing has consequences, when all solo has done is lose matches
Solo was sent by the elders who are Roman’s uncle and father
Not the rock
FINALLY they’re doing something interesting with Solo. It’s about time.
They need to do more with Tiffany soon. She was SO HOT following Elimination Chamber and they’ve cooled her off since then.
It was cool seeing AZM get so much love from US fans. And that was Toni’s best match as this new character.
I'm with you I'm all for solo being used property, I think what they are doing with Tiffany is Good enough given it hasn't been long since she's been in the Main Roster.
Bloodline vs bloodline for custody of paul heyman 😂
🇬🇧 🇨🇦 ❤
Jericho has full on go away change the channel heat with me
LMAO added Collision to Smackdown review
AEW stans gotta talk about it whenever they can.
Why so upset? Don’t want to listen to it then don’t, there’s timestamps ffs it’s not hard 🤦🏽♂️
Solo lost for an entire year and then demanded consequences for losing 😂
Y on Erth is this not out on a Saturday were it wood make sense
It won’t be Sami for WarGames… it will be Seth Rollins. Mark it down.
First
Aew needs help and a good show. Danielson always there to step up, lead the locker room, and be the goat
Ain’t nobody give a fuck about collision talk about smack down more
That was arguably the best Collision in a while, if not ever.
What if Cody is the new tribal chief. Heel turn
Does this mean we'll get an NXT review on the Dynamite episodes now?
Or just need to talk about AEW whenever you can?
Cody already confirmed in his promo the rock gave him his gift back in his promo. So it mist of been that Rolex he gave him before their match.
Is the collision review back for good?
The Bloodline story in 2023 would've been much better if Roman had lost at WM39 and we could've had Roman v Rock this year and it would've been universally accepted and praised.
Yes that's true. One way to look at it though is ppl just want instant gratification. Another way to look at it is that WWE just want to needlessly stretch out stories to fit their greater timeline.
Ok so hear me out… Solo destroys Roman writing him off tv for a while. When Roman comes back he tries making things right. But nobody cares because of the 4 years of damage. To be redeemed Roman has to face his former victims in a gauntlet match.
I actually really like jey uso and hope he becomes something one day
Considering how over Jack Perry was in Chicago, was it really all bad?
do we think Thunder Rosa wins back from Toni Storm, just so Britt Baker can come back for Thunder Rosa, jussssst for Jamie Hayter to come back at Wembley, jusssssssss to face Mercedes Mone? lol
If Jet is just Yeet your forget Daniel Bryan is just a yes man
They call them the pride frequently the called them the pride AT MANIA why are you guys listening too
Luke, would you kindly shut it about the Tag belts. I think we do need new belts. But I love those belts.
If this is just to reunite the Uso’s this soon then don’t bother
FEELS MORE LIKE “VINLANDSAGA” THAN WCW WOLFPACK…IYKYK
Also, I am ABSOLUTELY DYING for the WWE to end the Brand Split go back to having ONE World Champion for the men and women, and ONE set of tag titles.
This is ludicrous that they keep pushing this.
Jey should've dethroned Gunther. I believe that was the plan before Punk got hurt because Sami v Drew at Mania seemed a certainty.
2511 was the attendance for Collision