Lisa Kosters - Thank you for the comment, yes I feel lucky I found them. Yea knew the spring I wanted/needed and had a lot of no’s before I found Newcomb. They seemed to enjoy the new challenge and I hope it gives them a new product design they can offer others. They did not realize at first that they could even program the rectangular design into this particular machine. Good learning for all.
@@BladesIIB I used to operation CNC Lathes years ago and hope to have a small version myself some day! I was totally impressed by the spring machine! Love hearing WIN-WIN situations!
@@WannaGetNailed That sounds great. All the best getting your own little shop and CNC together. Took me a while to get mine set up and was definitely worth the wait and time.
In Taiwan there's a lot of parts stores. Stores selling nothing but screws, o rings, springs, etc. But I really don't know what it takes for them to make you a custom spring, most the time I just took a longer spring, cut it down, then modified it for my need, but then I only needed one or two springs. I even seen a spring factory in Taiwan, these guys make springs of all size and shape.
Tyler Fu - With online the selection is pretty good as well. If you want a round Spring you have thousands to choose from; however even with all of that finding anything small and in the rectangular or.magazine style shape was not out there. Let me know if you ever see them available? I searched quite a while before going with a custom solution and having them made.
@@BladesIIB I'm pretty sure rectangular springs, especially small ones that you require must be custom made regardless of where... difference is in Taiwan there are tons of spring manufacturer, it's not like the one man garage with a spring making machine, but a large facility with tens to hundreds of such machines all making various springs. I believe if you have enough quantities they'll make whatever spring you want them to make, however for a couple it makes no sense. By the way if you just need a couple of springs you can just make them yourself on the lathe out of music wires. Be sure to anneal the music wire first, make it on the lathe (This Old Tony has a guide on this), then use your heat treat kiln to heat treat it.
@@taiwanluthiers Sounds like we are saying the same thing. The additional challenge with these small magazine style springs is that since no one makes them and there are no formulas just asking for a dimension and tension does not work everyone wanted exact wire size and number of coils to make them. So I was lucky to find Newcomb Spring to help with that prototype step. And just to clarify, Newcomb Spring is a large fully functional spring company not a garage operation. DIY magazine style on the lathe would also be tough I think?
@@BladesIIB You can still do it on the lathe, but instead you would use a rectangular piece of stock as the mandrel instead of a round stock (4 jaw chuck needed). But you'd still need to know how to calculate tension/dimension and all that. But yea lathe is quick/dirty way to make them if you just needed a couple of springs, otherwise it's ordering it by the 1000 from a spring manufacturer. I seriously wouldn't be manufacturing springs with a lathe unless it's a very large one (they do use lathe for this professionally for very large springs, but this is metal heated to glowing red then quickly wound around a mandrel using a special lathe) If you have special size requirements though and quantity it may actually be cheaper to get a Taiwanese spring company to do this, as labor tends to be horrendously expensive in the states.
Id love to learn more about the machine that made the springs, at first glance it looks like a carbide cutting tool but I know its not cutting chips to make it. Very cool machine, fasinating. A video would be awesome (knudge knudge wink wink;) Just found yr channel, enjoying it a lot. :D
@mattymcsplatty5440 - Glad you are enjoying the channel. Thanks for the comment. The tooling on the machine is HSS I believe and not carbide. Not sharpened to cut but custom ground to make the bends they need and hard enough they wear well. The short video I shot of the machine making these springs is all I have. They were nice enough to let me check out the shop and how they were making these for me. Large production shop with a variety of different spring making machines. Wish I could have gotten more video as well.
That’s great you found a local company to work with you! Very impressive!
Lisa Kosters - Thank you for the comment, yes I feel lucky I found them. Yea knew the spring I wanted/needed and had a lot of no’s before I found Newcomb. They seemed to enjoy the new challenge and I hope it gives them a new product design they can offer others. They did not realize at first that they could even program the rectangular design into this particular machine. Good learning for all.
@@BladesIIB I used to operation CNC Lathes years ago and hope to have a small version myself some day! I was totally impressed by the spring machine! Love hearing WIN-WIN situations!
@@WannaGetNailed That sounds great. All the best getting your own little shop and CNC together. Took me a while to get mine set up and was definitely worth the wait and time.
In Taiwan there's a lot of parts stores. Stores selling nothing but screws, o rings, springs, etc.
But I really don't know what it takes for them to make you a custom spring, most the time I just took a longer spring, cut it down, then modified it for my need, but then I only needed one or two springs. I even seen a spring factory in Taiwan, these guys make springs of all size and shape.
Tyler Fu - With online the selection is pretty good as well. If you want a round
Spring you have thousands to choose from; however even with all of that finding anything small and in the rectangular or.magazine style shape was not out there. Let me know if you ever see them available? I searched quite a while before going with a custom solution and having them made.
@@BladesIIB I'm pretty sure rectangular springs, especially small ones that you require must be custom made regardless of where... difference is in Taiwan there are tons of spring manufacturer, it's not like the one man garage with a spring making machine, but a large facility with tens to hundreds of such machines all making various springs. I believe if you have enough quantities they'll make whatever spring you want them to make, however for a couple it makes no sense.
By the way if you just need a couple of springs you can just make them yourself on the lathe out of music wires. Be sure to anneal the music wire first, make it on the lathe (This Old Tony has a guide on this), then use your heat treat kiln to heat treat it.
@@BladesIIB ua-cam.com/video/jAawhg6JtyY/v-deo.html
@@taiwanluthiers Sounds like we are saying the same thing. The additional challenge with these small magazine style springs is that since no one makes them and there are no formulas just asking for a dimension and tension does not work everyone wanted exact wire size and number of coils to make them. So I was lucky to find Newcomb Spring to help with that prototype step. And just to clarify, Newcomb Spring is a large fully functional spring company not a garage operation. DIY magazine style on the lathe would also be tough I think?
@@BladesIIB You can still do it on the lathe, but instead you would use a rectangular piece of stock as the mandrel instead of a round stock (4 jaw chuck needed). But you'd still need to know how to calculate tension/dimension and all that. But yea lathe is quick/dirty way to make them if you just needed a couple of springs, otherwise it's ordering it by the 1000 from a spring manufacturer. I seriously wouldn't be manufacturing springs with a lathe unless it's a very large one (they do use lathe for this professionally for very large springs, but this is metal heated to glowing red then quickly wound around a mandrel using a special lathe)
If you have special size requirements though and quantity it may actually be cheaper to get a Taiwanese spring company to do this, as labor tends to be horrendously expensive in the states.
Id love to learn more about the machine that made the springs, at first glance it looks like a carbide cutting tool but I know its not cutting chips to make it. Very cool machine, fasinating. A video would be awesome (knudge knudge wink wink;) Just found yr channel, enjoying it a lot. :D
@mattymcsplatty5440 - Glad you are enjoying the channel. Thanks for the comment. The tooling on the machine is HSS I believe and not carbide. Not sharpened to cut but custom ground to make the bends they need and hard enough they wear well. The short video I shot of the machine making these springs is all I have. They were nice enough to let me check out the shop and how they were making these for me. Large production shop with a variety of different spring making machines. Wish I could have gotten more video as well.