How I Got Into Core Psychiatry Training In LONDON | MSRA Exam, CREST Form, Interview, My Timeline...
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What an amazing journey.... proud of how far you've come
Bhai tu kya Job kar Raha hai UK Mai ?
Thank you so much for this video! Can you also please make a video on how to develop a good CV during the mbbs course to land a job? Also please walk through your CV and how you developed it!
This is the UA-cam channel I was looking for!! I'm a final year medical student from India also planning to pursue psychiatry in UK! So grateful for the content!❤️
Amazing!!! I was asking around about portfolio advice but this is the best one i got so far! Keep up the good work. Thanks a lot. Even I'm aspiring to be a psychiatrist and your videos are a huge help!
I’m glad I could be of help! 🤗
Very informative and very proud of you 😌❤️
Ayeeee thanks!! 😁
Can you please enlighten us about the differences between Plab, MSRA, and neet pg (India). Especially, how difficult is MSRA compared to NEET PG in India. (Chances of getting speciality)
Nicely compiled and worthwhile to watch. Thanks for sharing✨✌🏽
Happy to help. Thank you for watching. 😁
Had been waiting for this video ever since you announced it! Thankyou so much for making this, it is very informative and helpful. ❤️
Happy to help!
Thanks for sharing all your experience and knowledge in a very concise manner
Your channel is a boon for Indian IMG’s because there would be many similarities in the journey. My only question is that we have a bunch of organisations running here,does working with them help ? Second, how important is research during the undergrad period backhome ? Hope to hear an answer from you soon 🙃 Regards 🙏
That was such an amazing video.
Core trainig = Fab Abs !!!
You make me proud ..god bless u
Mamaaaaaa ♥️♥️♥️
Thank you so much🌸🌸
Hello mam
What if we dont pass in the msra exam in first attempt after FY2 , will we be jobless since FY2 job is done???
So basically to sum up, msra is like the entrance exam for each speciality like in neet pg right mam?
Very nice
Woww this was great 🔥
Excellent.. stay blessed
Is there another exam between core training and speciality training??
Btw your videos are helping me a lot to build a picture for PLAB pathway!!
1.Do we get to prepare for Msra and interview.? If yes when.
2.What are medical teaching which you referred here? Did you take them while working as a non trainee ? How did you apply for these classes.
3. How did u apply for non training openings across uk"?
I love you videos and it made a lot of things clear to me. Please keep up the good work. I had one doubt. You mentioned that the CREST form has to be signed by a GMC registered consultant only. But the website mentions that it can be signed by any consultant who has relevant registration in their home country if they have supervised my work. Also, I think the website also mentions that it does not necessarily have to be a consultant but can be signed by a ST5+ doctor as well if they have supervised our work for 3 months within the last 3.5 years. Could you please clarify this?
What about dermatology??? Plz enlighten
Thank you so much for this video. It is very helpful 🙏
I am glad it helped you. ✨
You mentioned We need to work for 12mo after GMC registration, if we are able to get our CREST form signed before the 12mo and have 24mo of experience since graduation then can we apply for CT?
You don’t “need” to work.. it’s advisable to work to get the hang of the system, your responsibilities and what’s expected of you. Once you enter CT, you are already expected to know things and it can then affect your ARCP(appraisal) if you don’t progress satisfactorily in CT.
To answer your question.. start with a non training job first and get your CREST form signed off. But do NOT be in a hurry to get into CT. Take your time and once ready.. apply for it.
Okay, makes sense. Thanks for the prompt reply 🤍
Hi doctor! Just recently discovered your vlog and found it to be very informative. I'm also currently preparing to sit for my PLAB exams. If you dont mind me asking, how long were you at your non training job prior to entering specialty training? I intend to do specialty training in either neurology or paediatrics (with an intention to further specialize in paeds neuro) and I was wondering if it's possible to get CREST competencies signed off in these specialties as nontrainee or would you recommend doing a more general field like a&e or medicine? Thank you so much!
What's your cv score buddy
You can get your CREST form signed by a consultant from any speciality. And it is possible to get them signed off in any speciality.
@@drmonishamishra Hello Mam is it possible to get a fy2 in a yr after gmc registration after plab 2 !? .coz I heard there is lot of crowd and cv will play vital role ?! Is it true or ?!?! 🙃
Hello ma'am. I tried to access the link of eligibility criteria for entering psych, but I suppose the link is not available anymore. Could you pls send/attach new link?
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Happy to help!
Hello Dr Mishra,
Thank you again for giving all the info. The question I have for you is for the Speciality training for Surgeon. What exam should an aspirant of Surgery has to give? After giving the PLAB and getting the GMC registration?
Please make a detailed video on MRCP 🙏🏻🙏🏻which one do you prefer for PLAB OR MRCP ?
MRCP is for people pursuing general medicine. I am not pursuing medicine nor was I ever interested in general medicine so didn’t have to make that choice. Hope that explains it. 😇
I love you ❤️
How do we write reflective medicine paper?
If my first job is a junior clinical fellow in psychiatry, will I be able to get all my CREST competencies through that job or would I have to work in some other speciality too to be able to sign off certain competencies like cardiac and respiratory arrest?
is dermatology not included in the test? could you guide which exam or pathway you need to take for dermatology?...also I heard ppl who clear steps don't have to clear plan again...any insight n process guidance, please?
How did you got the crest form signed by GMC registered consultant?
for how many specialities we can apply in one time?one exam is acceptable for gp/psychiatry?
or separate questions?
Hi ! Just found your channel. Its really helpful. Could you pls tell how long it took you to get your crest form signed off once you entered a non training job ? And were you able to do all the presentations, attending f2 teaching etc all in that time to develop your portfolio ?
I started non training job in Jan. And like I have mentioned in my video, I only started working towards my portfolio from April. So, I did it all in 4 months- May, June, July, August. It was hard work but now in hind sight it was worth it and it definitely is doable. You just got to set your mind towards it and go for it.
I'm currently in Pakistan and my plab is booked in November already. Wanted to ask you if I attempt Mrcpsych 1 while preparing for long journey of plab, can I get trainee job directly? Please tell me what the procedure is or what I should do because I don't want to waste my time.
I did masters in pubic health and master ,Msc in gastroentrogy from Uk, what you suggest me to do ,or what exactly I do
Mam can you get crest signed in india?
I also want to persue psychiatry in UK. And i will be starting qs you have suggested as a fy1 non trainee . So how long will it take to become a consultant psychiatrist. As in 5 years or more ?.
Thanks for you videos are truely inspiring and motivational and informative for sure.
Hello Hargobind.
Starting from CT1 - you will be taking 6 yrs to become a consultant psychiatrist assuming one clears MRCPSy exam. Once you clear MRCPsy then you enter into the specialist register and you are a consultant. However if one doesnt clear, then you can still work but you would not be a consultant psychiatrist.
its 8-9 yrs including fy1
Can we choose the hospital where we can do our non training job?
You list all the trusts in the country based on your preferences and then you wait to get matched basically for the trust to offer you a training post.
What if we done 1 year internship in homecountry?
We will be selected directly for fy2?and then after MSRA n interview...CT boomb?
Am I right?
I'M 2nd yr medical student at AIIMS, Jodhpur
Wanted to give PLAB but later on it will replace with UKMLA !! Does the pattern changes ? Is it more clinical based ?
Please make a video on this topic 🙏🏻
Unfortunately, I am not aware of what exactly the changes will be by GMC as it’s so far ahead in the future. We will all have to wait for them to post next update. However, mostly each part of UKMLA will be like corresponding parts of PLAB as per current information available on GMC website. Please always check GMC as it’s your best bet for all the information.
What are you going to give exam
Hey! I have completed psychiatry from india. How can I get working in UK with mrcpsych? Any other pathway
Mam I don't have any additional thing I just have degree from govt medical college Bhopal and just completed my mbbs now working as a rural bond doctor but now I wanna do plab and get into cardiology....can I make my portfolio better during fy2.. Cuz I don't have anything just a mbbs degree 1 year experience and 1 year teaching experience in paramedical college
Same question ma'am 🙋
Hey there what if I pass mrcs after mbbs in 2 years would I join uk as st3 Or again core surgical training.
Hey. Great video and congratulations! Just wanted to ask your approach to msra? What all did you study for it, and how long did it take?
Thanks!!
Hey.. I subscribed to the question bank on pass medicine. I would say time depends on your grasping skills.
@@drmonishamishra Thanks! Looking forward to a video about msra prep! Your videos are very helpful.
Dr. I wanted to ask that when you were a foundation trainee could you support yourself financially to bear the cost of living in London from your salary Or do we still need parents to support us?
I able to support myself. And mind you I wasn’t a foundation trainee.. I was doing a year of non training job as a junior clinical fellow. The hospital I was working in wasn’t in London.. it was in Southend. But yes.. I was able to support myself without anyone’s help!
@@drmonishamishra thanks for the information ma'am✨
Mam do I have to give MRCS after core training to do speciality
Hey Dr.! Could you tell me if someone has a mental condition such as bipolar disorder and is controlled in nature but due to any emotional or psychological or physical triggers the person has an episode of bipolar again in the uk while his medical training period, will that lead to termination of his training or will he be given proper treatment by the NHS and then will be allowed to complete his training for the same?
Dear Nihit.
Usually NHS is very supportive. However this brings us to the point of fitness to practice. I will try and give a very balanced opinion as its not just about the said doctor, it is also about the pts they would be responsible for. Higher trainees are expected to work independently and once nearing completion they are often asked to cover for consultants. After recovery, assuming the person has had a good recovery, assessments will be done to resume practice as they would be dealing with mentally unwell pts who are very vulnerable. So the answer is, yes , to a certain degree however on the other hand the univ/deanery is under no obligation to have someone as doctor if too much of resources are required to support their training and more so if the recovery is partial and is accompanied by relapses/mini relapses.
Best Wishes.
What rank I will be in after passing PLAB after completing internship in India FY2 or CT1?
Do online courses(not bsc or MSc) from recognised institutions improve our CV??
They can be used as supportive information or extracurricular activities, but I won't invest heavily in them.
I'm interested in psychiatry
what rank I will be in after passing MRCS after FY2?
Did you need to do research and audit from India to land a non training job in the uk? will completing plab exams and ielts be enough to get Gmc registration and then securing a non training job in the uk?
Here’s a link where I’ve talked about my non-training NHS jobs profile - ua-cam.com/video/gQ3kXC67uIA/v-deo.html
Is there any rule that Round 1 of Ct or speciality recruitment is for British graduates and Round 2 is for IMGs... Because then, IMGs will have very limited choices for specialities as most of them will get filled up in round 1 itself
Nope. That rule was scrapped off years back.
hey can you recommend the consultant , if it's okay? i really need someone to help me navigate through it, i have adhd and I'm kinda scared I'll not be able to keep up. i'd be glad if you could
If you inform the Deanery and HR about your ADHD, they would be able to support you beforehand. Neurodiversity, much like, other conditions, would not be discriminated against. All the best.
Did you do any research/publications and clinical audits during MBBS?
and Thank you so much for sharing your experience! This was really helpful :)
Nope.. I didn’t. I did everything within in 4 months of starting in NHS. Lol
I don’t recommend doing that. If you get the opportunity, please do shiny things to add to your CV.
@@drmonishamishra thank you! :D
@@drmonishamishra thanx a lot mam
@@kookie-rd6pe no, it doesn't. All the best.
@@kookie-rd6pelol no😂
After FY2 , For starting Training program is there any fee cost for exam of CT (1,2) and ST (1,2,3)
Nope.
Hi, i m confused between mrcpsych and msra exam..like to enter psych training..we have to appear for mrcpsych right? Or we have to clear both msra and then mrcpsych?
As she said, the MSRA is taken BEFORE entry to (any) specialty training. The MRCPsych is taken DURING psychiatric training.
Hello, I am an MBBS doctor working in Nepal at one of the government teaching hospital in the psychiatry dept. I am planning to do my residency in psychiatry from UK. I have completed plab 1 and waiting for plab 2 date. What do you think might help me in the long run that I could do now?
I also have been involved in teaching psychiatry to Health Assistants here.
Hello Kamal. Any teaching is helpful. Specially when you are preparing your portfolio and sitting for interview.
I had a supply in anatomy in first year , will it create any problem ?
No, it won't. All the best.
hi , i am 40 and have done MD biochemistry from india , now working as consultant here , Is it worthwhile to appear for PLAB at this age?
Not really
Plab is before MD
Can i get into core training even though I’ve been doing non training job in the uk. Haven’t gone the FY1/2 pathway.
Yes.
Would clearing mrcpsych 1 help in getting residency in psychiatry
It would show your keeness towards Psychiatry and further training.
Hello mam ,
Can an Indian mbbs graduate (after passing plab) apply for the uk foundation programme instead of filling the crest form?????
Which one would be better????
Crest form is needed to get into training. It has nothing to do with foundation programme.
Is it necessary to give royal clg exam after completing plab and the training job to continue to work as a doctor in u.k ... what if iam not able to pass my royal clg exams will it be a waste for me to doy plab ? In india we can work as a MBBS doctor too .. but what about u.k how the system works there for foreign medical graduates?
You can work as a junior doctor (SHO) or even do GP training which is only 3 years long. You have yearly appraisal which you need to attend to show career progression, growth and learning even if you don’t do training.
@@drmonishamishra thank you 😊
No worries. Happy to help!
Hello.
The best/ideal way would be clearing the royal college exams. However people may choose not to give royal college exams for personal reasons or did not clear. There are other options such as trust grade, staff grade, associate specialist and also RMO jobs.
Hope that helps.
Best wishes.
Hi, do you think that a master in psychology accredited by BPS from a uk university would help me to be successful in the interview?
Hello Sam. If you are interested in the psychology why not. It will be helpful. In higher training there is a specialty called psychotherapy, You can specialise in it as an add on.
@@gloriaalva8781 Thank you so much for your reply
Ma'am did you do any research while you were in India.. that helped for your cv?
Hey. It’s not compulsory and I didn’t do any of it as I made the decision to appear for PLAB post internship. But if you get the chance then go for it. In life we always learn something from everything.
@@drmonishamishra thankyou Ma'am
Does the score in msra exam decide the speciality we get to choose ??
Nope. It contributes towards the overall score like I explained. You apply all the specialities you would like to be considered for.. then give your interview + do the OSCE bit in interview. Then total score is calculated. After which you rank the universities you would like to get offer from. Then you wait if you get offered from your list of choices. So, it kind of contributes towards the speciality you want to choose. But not as a factor amongst specialities. If that makes sense!
hey, did you do your fy2 training from india or the uk?
I did my one year rotatory internship from India. I did a year long non training job in the U.K. before applying for reining.
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Mam i have heard that research work done during MBBS is helpful in speciality interview/ job application after plab exams ?
Is that true?and to what extent the research work would be helpful in this process?
Does failing in mbbs prefinal yrs affect matching in specalities??
Not really.
@@drmonishamishra thank you mam 🙏
Are those Harry Potter series?
Yes, they are. Good eye.
Hey 😊,r u sure that neurosurgery requires msra exam ,MSRA is surgical specialty so r u sure about it or was it a slip of tongue for neurology
Sry NEUROSURGERY
It wasn’t slip of tongue. I am sure it’s for neurosurgery as mentioned in the documents - heeoe.hee.nhs.uk/sites/default/files/msra_test_blueprint_information_nov_2019.pdf
Thanku
I got 70 percentage in the 12th class.... does it cause any issues while doing pg in medicine (usmle, plab).....plz reply me plz ...
Why you didn't give usmle
Because I prefer the lifestyle, work hours, training etc in the U.K.
I got 70 percentage in the 12th class.... does it cause any issues while doing pg in medicine (usmle, plab).....plz reply me plz ...
@@kookie-rd6pe no, it doesn't.
Core training is equivalent to pg?
If you have to draw comparisons with India then yes.
which exam after f2?
Depends on which speciality you apply for and the pathway you choose. I’ve explained it in the video you’ve commented this on.
Dear Monisha
Thank you for the information
I'm a junior clinical fellow at Southend University Hospital. Really keen on practicing as a psychiatrist in the UK.
I would like to know how did you apply to do a rotation at Rockford?
I got in touch with a FY2 who was doing his rotation there and he put me in touch with a consultant. You can probably ring up Rochford or email someone on their team and ask. Should be easy to sort it!
Could u make a video of how you become a pyschiatrist in the uk after mbbs in india
I have made a video on a general pathway to becoming consultant in U.K. Please check the video by me - U.K. job titles explained.
Ofc he was nice, 😂😂
Mam, how tough is plab 2?
Does it have any specific syllabus to go through ?
Do you have to study during your fy1/fy2 or say during your Core training or just work in hospital?
What do you mean by that? You are a doctor in training, you are expected to study as you have exams to appear for. Unless you are confident to get them out of the way without any studying. I am confused by this question. 🤨
Hy, ur vlogs are superb one , meanwhile u r beautiful too , do u hv any sister ?? Amm cousin
Good luck doctor do you is beautiful
Will you marry me
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Is msra equivalent for neet p.g in india?.. how much do we need to score?.. we have to take it before ct1 or st1 training job?
MSRA is an exam not a qualification.. like I’ve explained in the video in detail the mentioned specialities require a score for the same.
I’ve also mentioned the better you score the better your chances of picking the city and trust of your choice.
CT1 or ST1 are the same.
@@drmonishamishra .. i meant equivalent to the neet p.g entrance exam? 🤔..
How can one country’s exam be equivalent in any way to another? I am sorry but I am unsure what exactly you are asking here.
@@drmonishamishra yes.... may be i am not able to explain my ques correctly..😅... as in india one has to take neet p.g exam to get into residency.... in u.k one has to take msra to get into c.t-1 training?... and i thought neet p.g is equivalent to msra because after clearing both exams a person is eligible to give mrcp and pasces... just...trying to clear my doubt...
You don’t need to give MSRA to give royal college exams. MSRA is the pathway to enter core/speciality training for the mentioned specialities. Every speciality has a different pathway to enter training. Secondly, royal college exams have got nothing to do with MSRA. Royal college exams are membership exams and not a degree. I can not call anything from here is equivalent to exams in India as you only have one exam to do pg(India) which only lasts for 3 years. That’s it! Just a suggestion.. but, I think for your own clarity don’t mix them up by finding similarities in the system as there are none.