Louis XIV's Mistresses

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  • Опубліковано 14 лис 2022
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    Louis XIV, King of France from 1638 to 1715, ruled over the court at Versailles with the sheer magnetism of his personality. All were desperate to be in the light of the sun king. His image was paramount to maintaining his place at the center of the Universe. The 5’4” monarch wore high heels and voluminous wigs. And he made sure the world knew he was a virile man with plenty of mistresses. While at least 20 women came and went from his majesty’s bed, he was emotionally devoted to 3 women in succession; Louise de La Vallière, Madame de Montespan and finally Madame de Maintenon whom he secretly married after the death of his Queen. Let’s meet the mistresses of King Louis XIV:
    Catherine Bellier, Baroness de Beauvais
    Marie Mancini, Duchess & Princess of Paliano
    Louise de La Vallière, Duchess of La Vallière & Vaujours
    Olympia Mancini, Countess of Soissons
    Bonne de Pons d’Heudicourt, Marquise d’Heudicourt
    Catherine Charlotte de Gramont, Princess of Monaco
    Gabrielle de Rochechouart de Mortemart, Marquise of Thianges
    Françoise-Athénaïs de Rochechouart, Marquise de Montespan
    Anne de Rohan-Chabot, Princess of Soubise
    Isabelle de Ludres, Marquess of Ludres
    Claude de Vin des Œillets
    Marie Angélique de Scorailles, Duchess of Fontanges
    Françoise d’Aubigné, Marquise de Maintenon
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 739

  • @LindsayHoliday
    @LindsayHoliday  Рік тому +582

    For everyone who's asking: Charles II's mistresses and illegitimate children are on the schedule for spring next year! Also thanks for the well-wishes, I'm just getting over laryngitis but had to finish the ad read with my frog voice.

    • @doreensika837
      @doreensika837 Рік тому +10

      Get well soon dear. I enjoyed the video.

    • @einezcrespo2107
      @einezcrespo2107 Рік тому +9

      Get better soon!

    • @--enyo--
      @--enyo-- Рік тому +16

      “I want to make sure my young son doesn’t grow up to have any sexual hang ups. I know, I’ll get this much older woman to force herself on him. That definitely won’t screw him up at all.”

    • @munshorder5477
      @munshorder5477 Рік тому +7

      Can you make video about queen consorts of France.

    • @ibqmely
      @ibqmely Рік тому +3

      Get well soon Lindsay!

  • @Kerriangel
    @Kerriangel Рік тому +1747

    “The king’s affections turned to her sister.”
    Ah the old Boleyn girls treatment

    • @allykat100
      @allykat100 Рік тому +144

      And Spencer girls, Charles dated Diana's sister before dating Diana

    • @a.munroe
      @a.munroe Рік тому +93

      The Monarch special.

    • @woodee1793
      @woodee1793 Рік тому +71

      And Austria's emperor, Franz supposed to be married to Elisabeth’s sister before marrying Elisabeth.

    • @Kai-ye8cr
      @Kai-ye8cr Рік тому +12

      I spat my drink at this

    • @noorbohamad5796
      @noorbohamad5796 Рік тому

      sorta twice it seems and then there’s also his great grandson

  • @colormetakenaback
    @colormetakenaback Рік тому +2558

    It seems pretty silly for one mistress to come in and be snarky to the other mistress. Girl, that'll be you one day soon! I'd make friends with everyone so no one wanted me to leave 😆😆

    • @JillyDoom666
      @JillyDoom666 Рік тому +62

      Omfg Same 🤣

    • @JillyDoom666
      @JillyDoom666 Рік тому +125

      I'd make sure who was there longer and who was there -- to be there-- after me or while there. Then I'd set out to find any guys that were "rediculously close" friends with him. No exactly trust them with a fifty foot pole but keep them close at the sane time. No one would want me around because I knew everything but no one could get rid of me either-- regardless if I was his favorite or not. I'd be the Lady Of Smugness 😂😂😂

    • @seneca9796
      @seneca9796 Рік тому +58

      A diplomatic approach. Love it

    • @colormetakenaback
      @colormetakenaback Рік тому +76

      Heck yeah! I'd butter up and get that Dutchy and that allowance for retirement! Pleasure doing business with you, Sire! 😆

    • @monalingan9523
      @monalingan9523 Рік тому +6

      😂😂😂

  • @EvilxElmo
    @EvilxElmo Рік тому +1930

    You know you're a history nerd when you have a favorite mistress of Louis XIV.

    • @ChibiProwl
      @ChibiProwl Рік тому +69

      Yes.😌Mine is the Madame de Maintenon.

    • @John-M.
      @John-M. Рік тому +51

      MONTESPAN!!!!

    • @clairefordzetterstrom9973
      @clairefordzetterstrom9973 Рік тому +33

      Maria Theresa of Spain as always!❤

    • @JadeLwoj
      @JadeLwoj Рік тому +4

      Aubigne 😆

    • @lapellabels
      @lapellabels Рік тому +53

      @@ChibiProwl urg can't stand Maintenon. The fact Maintenon was able to raise Athenais' children when Athenais' was separated from them, then displaced her and married the king. Just dirty and no respect lol.

  • @radioactive_sunflowerz2450
    @radioactive_sunflowerz2450 Рік тому +496

    Maintenon was one hell of a woman for sure. The fact that she treated the queen with respect (enough to be given a ring at her deathbed) and founded a school for impoverished girls to give them the education she never got is just amazing, understandable why the king didn't take any official Mistresses after her.

  • @lauriepenner350
    @lauriepenner350 Рік тому +935

    Is it just me, or does running off to become a nun sound like a way better option than all this backstabbing?

    • @arlenedavis5770
      @arlenedavis5770 Рік тому +78

      Poor Louise! I feel for her.

    • @nicoleackerman205
      @nicoleackerman205 Рік тому +65

      The one who was super guilty over everything and become a nun was the most attractive from the portraits I saw. I will never get men stay with the hot no they don't.

    • @SingingSealRiana
      @SingingSealRiana Рік тому +32

      Sure thing, though the abuse of nuns was and still is a severe problem to

    • @hayiaperetz5804
      @hayiaperetz5804 Рік тому

      That is jumping From the pot to the fire. In the nunnery she would become mistress to a sex crazed priest

    • @nobodysbaby5048
      @nobodysbaby5048 Рік тому +1

      Muffled Laughter 😇

  • @alicezta12
    @alicezta12 Рік тому +810

    I could legit never survive Versailles I’m too sensitive 😂

    • @lauriepenner350
      @lauriepenner350 Рік тому +78

      Might as well just join the convent and get it over with.

    • @a.munroe
      @a.munroe Рік тому +60

      I'm just going to admit not being smart enough. No matter how beautiful I could make myself it would never be enough.

    • @DayneAllyria
      @DayneAllyria Рік тому +74

      yea the smell would kill me before the debauchery 😂

    • @jialisette5898
      @jialisette5898 Рік тому +36

      I agree with this. I can be pretty mean sometimes, but I’m pretty sure these women would reduce me to tears 😂

    • @nurlindafsihotang49
      @nurlindafsihotang49 Рік тому +40

      @@jialisette5898 not to mentioned all the poisons, the gossips, the sabotages, and insults.

  • @FlaviusTheGrumpyCat
    @FlaviusTheGrumpyCat Рік тому +1154

    From a modern perspective I can't help but feel sorry for all these teenage girls pressured into relationships with the king. Especially with all the Catholic guilt in play :(

    • @Theturtleowl
      @Theturtleowl Рік тому +269

      Boys and girls, Louis was only 15 when his mom thought it was a great idea to get a 38 year old woman to deflower her son because she worried he might be gay. Just no.

    • @meggoldnight
      @meggoldnight Рік тому +89

      It backfired on her pretty spectacular- he became a veracious lover

    • @meggoldnight
      @meggoldnight Рік тому +89

      I agree with you but it’s important to remember, this time was very different to today, there was little to no love matches and a lot of the time it was arranged marriages by their parents, most couples within the noble court had affairs, when Louis the 16th didn’t have a mistress it backfired massively and thus Marie Antoinette was hated, all the hate on the mistress that usually happened landed on the monarch and thus the revolution
      Also everyone in the court had affairs, it’s recorded a husband catches his wife in bed with her lover and he apologises to her for arriving early and catching them in the act and embarrassing her- it’s just how it was

    • @keyaunna.
      @keyaunna. Рік тому +33

      @@Theturtleowl THIS. it’s so nasty.

    • @duetopersonalreasonsaaaaaa
      @duetopersonalreasonsaaaaaa Рік тому

      @@Theturtleowl I suspect he developed such an... appetite for intercourse because he was traumatized by being deflowered at a young age, maybe against his will. It's a common reaction to s%xual assault, unfortunately...

  • @natatatm
    @natatatm Рік тому +192

    The fact that Maintenon wasn't born into wealth and royalty probably gave her the wit and pragmatism to rise to power. What a cool lady. Even though I hate that the king pitted all these women against each other, I'm glad that she was the one who overcame in the end.

  • @Salami_Explains09
    @Salami_Explains09 Рік тому +253

    I feel bad for Louise, she did nothing wrong 😢

    • @girl1213
      @girl1213 4 місяці тому +7

      Louise did the right thing by leaving, scorning Montespan for her arrogant belief that Louise was so weak as to not want to leave so Montespan could continue to abuse and bully her. If anything, Montespan should have looked to Louise as a warning to what would eventually happen to her, but she didn't.
      Louise certainly didn't do anything wrong, and she showed it by living her life as best she could even when she was dogged by guilt. She certainly lived a better life then Montespan by not making any enemies in court outside of simply being the mistress. She caused no scandals. All she wanted was Louis' love, but knew well enough to not cause trouble, even showing her regret towards the Queen.

  • @Allthingsasian
    @Allthingsasian Рік тому +646

    Ironic that his mother was worried about Incest when their family tree is literally a circle 💀

    • @johnhs481992
      @johnhs481992 Рік тому +59

      1. Mic drop.
      2. Let’s give this individual a round of applause.

    • @MrLuchenkov
      @MrLuchenkov Рік тому +85

      Not really the case. The House of Bourbon was far from incestuous, all things considered. The Habsburgs model did not apply in France.
      Obviously, there were a few first and second cousins marriages here and there (before Louis XIV), but plenty of marriages with foreign princesses and princes to help renew the DNA.
      The Bourbon branch looks pretty healthy, as far as royal trees go.

    • @AmyHoldaway27
      @AmyHoldaway27 Рік тому +4

      I’m dead 💀😂😂😂😂😂 though I don’t think it was the case here

    • @visenyatargaryen9130
      @visenyatargaryen9130 Рік тому +11

      @@MrLuchenkov His mother was an Habsburg.

    • @MrLuchenkov
      @MrLuchenkov Рік тому +29

      @@visenyatargaryen9130 Aye and there were 1-2 other Habsburgs who came into the Bourbon line like that, but the line itself (the Bourbons) wasn't incestuous and their family tree doesn't make a circle (which is funny but makes no sense) is what I was replying to. The Bourbons didn't marry between uncles and nieces.
      I obviously didn't say that their line was a perfectly healthy one; just that as far as royal lines went, they were pretty okay. Things get a bit more iffy as time goes by, but Anne of Austria was the first Habsburg to join the royal Bourbon family at that point.
      N.B: It is highly amusing to see a Targaryen discussing incestuous family trees, though. It's good to see experts being brought in.

  • @rachelxu8229
    @rachelxu8229 Рік тому +150

    Like I don't know if age of consent was even a thing back then but the idea of a mother asking a 35 year old to "deflower" their 15 year old son is super disturbing to me

    • @sese8976
      @sese8976 Рік тому +19

      It was completely normal in those times

    • @brittneybrisbin744
      @brittneybrisbin744 Рік тому +4

      Same here

    • @elmin82
      @elmin82 Рік тому +10

      That was kinda creepy

    • @delphzouzou4520
      @delphzouzou4520 Рік тому +7

      Considering people often died around 30, or died very early comparing to now, people married à 13-15 was common, sometimes younger, both for men and women.
      Comparing it with the modern era standards would be a mistake.

    • @Mindstangle
      @Mindstangle 9 місяців тому

      I am 15 Rachel if you are 38 I do not mind

  • @lfgifu296
    @lfgifu296 Рік тому +416

    I am currently studying Barroque architecture, and, ofc, we analysed some rooms of Versailles, and some of Louis’s life. I do feel for his wife, though:’)

    • @Nikki-tx6kh
      @Nikki-tx6kh Рік тому +26

      Patience of a Saint.

    • @jessjess23brooks89
      @jessjess23brooks89 Рік тому +57

      I don't think theirs was a love match, but you never know. She never seemed to complain unless one of the mistresses was out of pocket.
      Personally, I'd be super concerned about being transferred pox and syphilis with the revolving door to his bed. Hopefully after she performed her duty, he left her alone lol.

    • @dacringeyfangirl
      @dacringeyfangirl Рік тому +34

      The queen probably had her own affairs, but they probably weren’t recorded, as they were probably kept super secret

    • @clairefordzetterstrom9973
      @clairefordzetterstrom9973 Рік тому +3

      Hi queen!❤

    • @ledam2654
      @ledam2654 Рік тому +8

      @@dacringeyfangirl That's all hearsay because there's no evidence/proof

  • @clairdeloona
    @clairdeloona Рік тому +31

    The chaos between (straight) Louis, his bi sister in law who he was also sleeping with and his gay brother and the many, many, many lovers is just too much to make sense of in ur head

    • @ceejelly8783
      @ceejelly8783 3 місяці тому +2

      I bet that 38 yrsold deflowering a 15 yrsold boy thingy played a part….

  • @SpanishEclectic
    @SpanishEclectic Рік тому +116

    Wow! That's the entire series of "Versailles" condensed into half and hour. I love your excellent use of the portraits to keep us on track (since there were so many). I think I will dream of jewels and huge drop pearls, along with flowing silks and hair. So much beauty for one man. Hardly seems fair...

  • @athenais715
    @athenais715 Рік тому +274

    As an Athénaïs I can testify that you finally said her name correctly (unlike that terrible Versailles series). The Montespan was awful but the most famous woman with my name. She was always the antagonist of all those French young adult novels set in Versailles for teenage girls.

  • @duetopersonalreasonsaaaaaa
    @duetopersonalreasonsaaaaaa Рік тому +53

    Established Titles is an iffy sponsorship. They've apparently told UA-camrs the title Lord/Lady can be used on official documents when it cannot. It's the same as the "buying and naming a star after yourself" thing. No official entity would ever recognize it haha. Not to mention I've heard they're disliked by the locals in Scotland, can't remember why, I'd have to look it back up
    Some quotes I found interesting after looking up this company and a very similar one named Highland Titles, which works pretty much identically to Established Titles
    "The environment sector in Scotland generally does not hold a high opinion of the work carried out by Highland Titles,” an anonymous source at a major Scottish NGO tells Euronews Green. “But their reputation for running to court means that people don’t feel comfortable speaking out.
    “Scots with a wider cultural awareness find the whole proposition of selling titles ludicrous and insulting. As you would find with any brief trawl through social media on the subject.”
    Director of Highland Titles Douglas Wilson responded to Euronews Green that the company had never been to court about anything. But our off-record conversations with other environmental groups and individuals in Scotland point to the company having a hostile reputation.
    It’s easy to understand the company’s high profits. Tree-planting schemes tap into our eco-anxiety; combining such promises with a novelty gift pack is well-tailored to UK, US and Australian consumers. But as we’ve previously reported, it’s important to do the homework on these companies.

  • @krankarvolund7771
    @krankarvolund7771 Рік тому +202

    You should do an episode on the Palatine, Chalotte Elisabeth, the sister in law of Louis XIV, she's a very interesting character, especially in her letters ^^

    • @meggoldnight
      @meggoldnight Рік тому +12

      Her letters make me cackle with laugher- such as her comments on her looks during a cold “a shat on carrot” and speaking about marriage and her giving birth

    • @MegCazalet
      @MegCazalet Рік тому

      Is there a particular book you recommend?

    • @kenzieuchiha1191
      @kenzieuchiha1191 Рік тому +5

      She was amazing and the only woman to have the metaphorical balls to turn her back on Louis XIV when he bribed her son into marrying his youngest daughter with Athenaïs. She slapped Philippe and didn't acknowledge Louis when he bowed to her.

    • @ThomasHarding1990
      @ThomasHarding1990 Рік тому +1

      Elisabeth Charlotte* not Charlotte Elisabeth.

    • @fabs8498
      @fabs8498 10 місяців тому +2

      @@MegCazaletLetters of Princess Palatine !

  • @melaniereine3378
    @melaniereine3378 Рік тому +99

    I'm absolutely obsessed with late 17th century Versailles, thank you so much for this video!

  • @kiamaria331
    @kiamaria331 Рік тому +66

    The French court sounds so much more entertaining then the English one around this time, for real 😂😂😂. What really takes the cake is one mistress unleashing her pet BEARS (like ma’am?? 😭) in the other ones room, straight comedy. Such drama!

    • @juliemaiifanai8365
      @juliemaiifanai8365 Рік тому +8

      French court of Louis XIV must have been wild 😂😂 My poor head wouldn't be able to keep up with the shenanigans of the court

    • @elaineduker.6355
      @elaineduker.6355 10 місяців тому +2

      The English court was very interesting at this time, Charles 11 was the reigning monarch, he had as many if not more mistresses than Louis from The Duke of Buckinghams daughter, Barbara Villiers, to cockney actress Nell Gwynne, he also had several illegitimate children, his sister was Henriette of Orleans, Louis sister in law, wife to his brother " Monsieur" I have read countless books about this period of history, Louis the Sun King , wore heels because it was the fashion, the fashion was for the heels to be red, a status symbol,
      Much like Cuban heeled boots men wore in the sixties, only heard two lines of this flat voice, monark!! as opposed to monarch, totally clueless.

  • @tuvasyarriver7854
    @tuvasyarriver7854 Рік тому +42

    1:46 I love the way you've integrated this scene from tv series "Versailles" into your narrative ❤️

  • @adamnoor4143
    @adamnoor4143 Рік тому +160

    I'd love to see a series on the most celebrated beauties of different centuries/eras!

  • @berniebleak
    @berniebleak Рік тому +20

    Thanks for posting Lindsay, I'm so addicted to this 17th century tea!

  • @clintchauvin9467
    @clintchauvin9467 Рік тому +49

    Only recently found this channel and I’m absolutely obsessed! This is part of my nighttime routine all nights. Your voice is sooo soothing!! Thank you for the amount of work you put in and I love how you talk about this real tea and women and not about wars or only males. And speaking of voice the last part of the commercial you sounded sick..I hope you feel better if you are or were ill!!!

  • @quinevere
    @quinevere Рік тому +39

    that first mistress story was so fucked up omg

  • @memyselfandeye76
    @memyselfandeye76 Рік тому +16

    He definitely had a type because they all resemble each other

    • @peggysyri3193
      @peggysyri3193 Рік тому +12

      I guess it's the standard way of painting they had back then

  • @d_izzy
    @d_izzy Рік тому +59

    It's interesting to hear the history having watched the historical drama Versailles.

  • @kaylee5869
    @kaylee5869 Рік тому +11

    Yay I’m so glad you posted! I’ve been rewatching old videos and needed something new to have on repeat every night 😅

  • @Chemson1989
    @Chemson1989 Рік тому +56

    I am impressed how Louis remembered all mistresses' names.

    • @fabs8498
      @fabs8498 Рік тому +13

      And the children he had with.

    • @ceejelly8783
      @ceejelly8783 3 місяці тому +4

      He probably didn’t tho 😂

  • @lizzybearstar1661
    @lizzybearstar1661 Рік тому +21

    I love watching your videos. I have learned a hundred times more from you and your history Channel then I have ever learned in school in any history or class.

  • @llamachai
    @llamachai Рік тому +9

    I think I've binged like 10 videos since finding this channel over the weekend. Thanks for sharing all your knowledge/skill with us, Lindsay!
    I also love running over to tell my parents things I've learned that make them go, "wait really??"

  • @MegCazalet
    @MegCazalet Рік тому +30

    I can’t imagine the stress of knowing your lover could casually cheat on you at any whim. That there are dozens of young ladies - hundreds including non-nobles - constantly throwing themselves at him. I had a friend who dated a famously attractive athlete and though she trusted him, they couldn’t go out in public without having women come up to them and basically proposition him as though she wasn’t sitting right there. They eventually broke up. 😞
    Versailles sounds like it would give me panic attacks.

    • @nobodysbaby5048
      @nobodysbaby5048 Рік тому +2

      Had a friend that had a gorgeous husband. She was a genuinely nice lady & handled it better than just about anybody I've ever seen. She would allude to it indirectly & just roll her eyes. I loved that, don't know why.

  • @Rogerramjet4321
    @Rogerramjet4321 Рік тому +28

    What a Viper’s nest Versailles was.

    • @nobodysbaby5048
      @nobodysbaby5048 Рік тому +4

      Any place you have money & power there will be drama.
      The English court had Henry viii & you know how THAT went.

  • @italianlifestyle7911
    @italianlifestyle7911 Рік тому +46

    Perfect timing to enjoy my history moment over a hot cup of tea🍵

  • @thisisyang820
    @thisisyang820 Рік тому +50

    Wow...his mother must have felt that she "cured" her son... lol!

    • @krankarvolund7771
      @krankarvolund7771 Рік тому +27

      Funnily enough, she worried that Louis was gay, but encouraged his brother Philippe to be effeminated and gay. Because she felt that a gay feminine brother will be less of a threat ^^'

    • @noorbohamad5796
      @noorbohamad5796 Рік тому +3

      I guess he really was either indeed CURED or probably
      he might not have ever really needed that maybe it’s his younger brother that needed that well maybe🤔

  • @i-d-o-l-e-s-s
    @i-d-o-l-e-s-s Рік тому +19

    Through history and around the world, unfaithfulness from Royals is such a consistent topic I can only Imagine how many people actually have royal blood and are totally unaware of being of being somewhat/somehow royals.

  • @lonesomevalkyrie
    @lonesomevalkyrie Рік тому +3

    Great episode, can't wait for the next one!

  • @mochicarunch
    @mochicarunch Рік тому +4

    Yay! Thank you so much for this video, it's something I really wanted to see!

  • @isabelledriscoll3764
    @isabelledriscoll3764 Рік тому +47

    Did anyone else notice how much the queen of Portugal looks exactly like the portrait of Kathryn Howard?

  • @SuperBeth1001
    @SuperBeth1001 Рік тому +52

    Yesssss I love French history and was hoping you would do some proper videos on it! I just finished rewatching Versailles as well 😇❤️

    • @ChibiProwl
      @ChibiProwl Рік тому +6

      Have you checked out The Kings of France? 🤔She’s a UA-camr who goes into detail of the French royal family and other historical figures.😌

    • @November_892
      @November_892 Рік тому +5

      Versailles is not historically accurate but it is fun to watch

    • @AmyHoldaway27
      @AmyHoldaway27 Рік тому

      I want to rewatch it too 😁🙈🫣

    • @SuperBeth1001
      @SuperBeth1001 Рік тому

      @@ChibiProwl I shall take a look! I know a fair bit about Louis XIV, XV and XVI but there’s always more and other figures to learn about!

    • @SuperBeth1001
      @SuperBeth1001 Рік тому +1

      @@November_892 Some of it is very accurate but definitely not all of it, definitely a brilliant show!

  • @rowennoonan6716
    @rowennoonan6716 Рік тому +2

    YESSSS I HAVE BEEN WAITING A LONG TIME FOR THIS!!!!

  • @Itzduhhistorygirl
    @Itzduhhistorygirl Рік тому +81

    Honestly I love your videos Lindsey they are educational and entertaining at the same time 🥰🥰🥰

  • @m7dasplatoon539
    @m7dasplatoon539 Рік тому +16

    I think when the Queen gave the ring to madame de maintenon it, it symbolize that the Queen was giving her blessing to her to marry Louis which I think is very touching

    • @AthenaCalleaTV
      @AthenaCalleaTV 10 місяців тому

      Bein non apparemment elle savait pas la liaison du roi avec Mme de maintenon...
      Car figurez vous que le roi gardait à la cour Mme de Montespan après l'affaire des poisons
      pour faire paravent aux rumeurs de sa liaison secrète avec Mme de Maintenon.
      J'avais lu dans un livre biographique que MarieTherese n'a du coup apprit que quelques semaines avant sa mort la liaison secrète de Maintenon avec le roi et quand elle lui donne l'anneau c'etait avant de savoir
      pour juste la remercier de l'avoir réconciliée avec le roi
      pas pour lui dire OK tu pourras te marier avec dès que...

    • @AthenaCalleaTV
      @AthenaCalleaTV 10 місяців тому

      Well no apparently she didn't know about the king's affair with Mme de maintenon...
      Because imagine that the king kept Madame de Montespan at court after the poison affair
      to shield rumors of his secret affair with Madame de Maintenon. So that no one knows that He was really with Maintenon. Only rumors.
      I had read in a biographical book on Madame de Maintenon that MarieTherese had only learned a few weeks before her death of Maintenon's secret affair with the king and when she gives her the ring it was before to know and
      just to thank her for it
      having reconciled with her husband the king!
      she didn't know their relation.
      Not to tell her : OK you can get married as soon as...
      Especially since it was unthinkable and almost impossible for a king to marry a woman below his rank. So the queen can't have just this idea of mariage.
      Sorry for the traduction it's Google

  • @torgeirbrandsnes1916
    @torgeirbrandsnes1916 Рік тому +8

    Great vlog as always! I lost Louis 14th and his lovers at the bakery. Mamma Mia! What a jungle of lovers, nannies and drama! That is a town in Greece btw. I can not even get ONE misstress… I am no king. It could be the reason… lol! Keep up your splendid work!

  • @vbrown6445
    @vbrown6445 Рік тому +61

    I was about to ask why some of the illegitimate children were legitimized, while others were not. But it seems you will answer that in the next video. Must have been incredibly frustrating for those who were not.

  • @ChaseAndCaleb
    @ChaseAndCaleb Рік тому +7

    Oh my gosh You make such good videos I have been a fan for 4 years😍

  • @maureenb4901
    @maureenb4901 Рік тому +94

    Could you do a video about the life of madame de pompadour? I always thought she was so fascinating

    • @laurennicole9169
      @laurennicole9169 Рік тому +16

      Me too, especially after watching her doctor who episode

    • @niyatis0207
      @niyatis0207 Рік тому +1

      @@laurennicole9169 same here 😀

    • @elliottcanuel2196
      @elliottcanuel2196 Рік тому +7

      Its really interesting how she basically ran Versailles for an extended period of times and pushed her enemies aside like dominoes

    • @michelleduquette3725
      @michelleduquette3725 Рік тому +2

      I really admire Madame La Marquise de Pompadour!!

  • @UsefulHerbsDrOlowofoyekuPhD
    @UsefulHerbsDrOlowofoyekuPhD Рік тому +17

    He was a most flamboyant king

  • @mtc-3charis
    @mtc-3charis Рік тому +18

    U do know Established Titles is considered a scam, right?

  • @MajorDenisBloodnok
    @MajorDenisBloodnok Рік тому +11

    Françoise de Montespan was born Rochechouart de Mortemart one of a oldest aristocratic family of France. She liked to tease the king saying that her family was older than his.
    She had the famous Mortemart spirit, madame de Sévigné said of her that:
    "To the most surprising beauty, she joined the most lively, the finest, the best cultivated spirit, this hereditary spirit in her family".

    • @ThomasHarding1990
      @ThomasHarding1990 Рік тому

      Wrong. Montespan's name wss ACTUALLY *Françoise de Rochechouart* "Mortemart" was her father's TITLE. #DONTCopyWikipedia.

    • @MajorDenisBloodnok
      @MajorDenisBloodnok Рік тому

      @@ThomasHarding1990 I don't need Wiki Something to know that this part of the Rochechouart family was called Rochechouart de Mortemart or simply Rochechouart Mortemart (Mortemart is indeed a title) to show the difference with the eldest branch of the Rochechouart family.
      The members of the house of Rochechouart de Mortemart bore this name as Françoise de Rochechouart de Mortemart...

  • @carlasnyman6887
    @carlasnyman6887 Рік тому +2

    I’ve been waiting for this!!!!!! Yessss!!!!!

  • @AstarionWifey
    @AstarionWifey Рік тому +40

    Idk why people find history boring
    Just look at all this TEA 🍵

  • @Livmatt
    @Livmatt Рік тому +2

    A perfect Tuesday evening treat!

  • @evilgoose6768
    @evilgoose6768 Рік тому +55

    You should do one about the lovers of Charles II of England and Scotland. I believe he got around quite a lot as well

    • @hannahtanski3911
      @hannahtanski3911 Рік тому +2

      the love of his life was maria mancinis sister, hortense

    • @evilgoose6768
      @evilgoose6768 Рік тому +3

      @@hannahtanski3911 more like "a love of his life"

    • @user-ed7et3pb4o
      @user-ed7et3pb4o Рік тому +1

      @@hannahtanski3911 what about Nell

  • @BeveC21E
    @BeveC21E Рік тому +5

    Happy to hear that the reforestation idea is going so well, esp since the airport personnel, have all stopped laughing! Great idea esp for those of 'low self-esteem'. Seriously though, glad that more attention is being given to support the health of the planet that supports us all!

  • @royaltyfandomx
    @royaltyfandomx Рік тому +22

    Lindsay! I love your French Accent for the names! 😌

  • @munshorder5477
    @munshorder5477 Рік тому +1

    I have waited a lot for this topic.

  • @zackabee5498
    @zackabee5498 10 місяців тому +5

    What I understood from the documentaries is that men back then specially kings had to have mistresses. Having mistresses was a sign of virility and masculinity.

  • @Replicaate
    @Replicaate Рік тому +23

    It was a semi-insult at the time probably but man, The Grand She-Wolf is a GREAT nickname.

  • @PerfectlyImperfect93
    @PerfectlyImperfect93 Рік тому +3

    Thank you Lindsay!❤

  • @donttouchmycat
    @donttouchmycat Рік тому +15

    Didn't Established Titles turn out to be a major scam? Saw it on The Click

  • @Nikki-tx6kh
    @Nikki-tx6kh Рік тому +20

    I hope you do Charles II and his girls soon. And the genealogical connection between him and William through Diana.

  • @mikalbell8125
    @mikalbell8125 Рік тому +6

    Great video! I think it would be hard to be a royal mistress because you know that your wealth and Status depends on on the favor of the king, but you also know that the king's interest will fade eventually.

  • @dacatorium
    @dacatorium Рік тому +4

    Your videos just make my day!

  • @trishcouncell2342
    @trishcouncell2342 Рік тому +3

    Excellent presentation as usual but I still got lost😮 😂

  • @doriij
    @doriij Рік тому +10

    Catherine de Gramont's personality and backstory are perfect for nowdays historical shows.

  • @shaquilleoatmeal4061
    @shaquilleoatmeal4061 Рік тому +5

    its so cool being early! great video as always Lindsey :)

  • @xwiirastusx
    @xwiirastusx Рік тому +25

    20:30 An explanation: Isabelle was from the contested region of Lorraine/Lotringen between France and the German States. My guess is she spoke French with a German accent. But then so did the Princess Palatinate Elizabeth Charlotte, the sister-in-law to Louis XIV.

    • @ThomasHarding1990
      @ThomasHarding1990 Рік тому

      You mean *EliSabeth Charlotte of the Palatinate, Princess Palatine* #DONTCopyWikipedia.

  • @woodfairy93
    @woodfairy93 Рік тому +14

    Hey there! I enjoy your videos and watch them every Tuesday. I wanted to let you know that established titles is actually not a reputable business. I just wanted to let you know about it and let you do research on it. I noticed you rep them a lot as promoters, I just wanted to make sure you were aware of the scam going on with it. There are several videos on UA-cam about it lately. I just wanted to let you know! I really do enjoy your videos and hope you continue to make such great content!!!

  • @ajthelwell6357
    @ajthelwell6357 Рік тому +28

    I hope your feeling ok Lindsay, during the ad it sounded like you were struggling to speak. Thank you for the video but get better soon as the weather changes here in Canada!

    • @LindsayHoliday
      @LindsayHoliday  Рік тому +13

      Thanks! Almost over laryngitis

    • @Jason.cbr1000rr
      @Jason.cbr1000rr Рік тому +2

      Shes getting of age sadly.

    • @lizzybearstar1661
      @lizzybearstar1661 Рік тому

      @@Jason.cbr1000rr what a rude thing to say it's just laryngitis. So rude I think same or commenting something and saying someone is getting old is so fucking rude

  • @medioreblatherskite
    @medioreblatherskite Рік тому +12

    I feel like Im watching a very intense reality show but the 17th Century 😵‍💫

  • @natl2042
    @natl2042 Рік тому +3

    I would have so much fun putting my title on everything. This might be something to add to my Christmas list! Can you pass it to your children? Good sponsorship Lindsay.

  • @SadieNeufeld-Wall-pr4qu
    @SadieNeufeld-Wall-pr4qu 9 місяців тому

    This makes me want to see Lindsay do a series on all the French kings!

  • @Blackcatsaregoodluck11
    @Blackcatsaregoodluck11 Рік тому +4

    I enjoyed this!!! I see myself in Louise.

  • @tburrrg2502
    @tburrrg2502 Рік тому

    Yay new video!! ❤

  • @RMBlake007
    @RMBlake007 Рік тому +7

    "...she enjoyed the privilege of giving the Queen Mother her regular enema's". The dead pan delivery almost made me believe she DID enjoy it. LOL

  • @sonwhare8288
    @sonwhare8288 11 місяців тому +1

    loved this content

  • @makijanke660
    @makijanke660 Рік тому +26

    Hey, I really enjoy your content and I think you are a really good creator so I should warn you. Don't work with established titles. These titles aren't really given to anyone and you don't really own anything, it's like buying a star. It doesn't actually give you any right to use the title. There wouldn't be anything wrong with it if they were transparent about it. Plus there is no information about how much money goes to planting trees vs to the pockets of company's owner. I almost bought it for my brother. It's a waste of money...

  • @anapantelic517
    @anapantelic517 Рік тому

    The sound of your voice is more than enough for me.

  • @r-t9266
    @r-t9266 Рік тому +11

    They should make a tv show on the lives of the Mancini sisters !

  • @mikedomar2465
    @mikedomar2465 Рік тому +37

    Mm yes, to be so privileged enough to give the queen mother her regular enemas, can’t say I envy that😭

    • @lilymarinovic1644
      @lilymarinovic1644 Рік тому +14

      Kings in England used to have a "groom of the stool" (meaning toilet) for.botty-wiping and similar functions.
      Being allowed to be that intimately close to a person when they are vulnerable like that indicates great trust from the monarch.
      Grooms.of the Stool were very influential, and well rewarded for their pains, and so the position was very sought after.

    • @lizzybearstar1661
      @lizzybearstar1661 Рік тому

      @@lilymarinovic1644 yes I heard of the position of groom of the stool. And I can't say no matter how much privilege or anything I would get in the world I would not want to be wiping some guys butt. That's nasty

    • @nobodysbaby5048
      @nobodysbaby5048 Рік тому

      Not my idea of a good time. Repeat after me:For the love of God, eat some fruit!

    • @lilymarinovic1644
      @lilymarinovic1644 Рік тому

      @@nobodysbaby5048 to be fair, medical science of the he time thought too much raw fruit and veg was bad for.ypur health. After all, it was what peasants ate and they dropped like flies.
      Not knowing about germ theory, of course they didnt know you had to wash the stuff first. Plus that the dysentery plague and other infections that knocked off most of the peasantry were usually not connected with their fruit and veg consumption.

  • @kerrilambert1486
    @kerrilambert1486 Рік тому +1

    Good review!

  • @larissabraz4056
    @larissabraz4056 Рік тому +6

    Louise's story always make me sad :(

  • @pn9075
    @pn9075 Рік тому +13

    Imaging having such a tremulous affair with Louis XIV that you retire to a nunnery to live out the rest of your life contemplating your affair and regretting it

  • @anubratabit3027
    @anubratabit3027 Рік тому +29

    Louis XIV was indeed lucky to have been born before the outbreak of AIDS.

    • @emilybarclay8831
      @emilybarclay8831 Рік тому +1

      He certainly had syphilis to worry about

    • @melaniereine3378
      @melaniereine3378 Рік тому +26

      They did have syphilis though back then, so definitely not risk free...

    • @algini12
      @algini12 Рік тому +7

      @@melaniereine3378 Yes, and no cure, so an early death sentence.

    • @nicoleackerman205
      @nicoleackerman205 Рік тому +2

      @@melaniereine3378 Agree when I saw that comment I was like there were and still are other std's out their.

    • @Levacque
      @Levacque 10 місяців тому

      There must have been a lot of itchy crotches at Versailles, though.

  • @wowso4
    @wowso4 Рік тому +7

    This King seems better then king Henry at least he didn't behead any of his wives or mistresses.

  • @Isrjisoneavalable
    @Isrjisoneavalable Рік тому +11

    Anyone else want to see a mini series about Guy Armand and his polygamous love affair with the Duke and Duchess?

    • @Levacque
      @Levacque 10 місяців тому +2

      Yes. I'd watch ten seasons. What a fucking legend. How many couples did he pull these shenanigans with that wasn't recorded??

    • @contessadicastiglioni5303
      @contessadicastiglioni5303 8 місяців тому

      Yes!! Ha ha

  • @Rebelartist83
    @Rebelartist83 Рік тому +5

    I should think it be hard to be a courtesan in this court since king Louie the 14th seemed more in love with himself than any lady in his service

  • @hannahmargaret_
    @hannahmargaret_ Рік тому +3

    Louis XIV is my favorite king. Can't wait to watch this!

    • @carinel.1333
      @carinel.1333 Рік тому +1

      Not really. He persecuted protestants

  • @d.l.l.6578
    @d.l.l.6578 Рік тому +12

    They make Peyton Place look tame. In modern times, Louis XIV would be understood as a predator of Underage girls.

  • @SomePerson_Online
    @SomePerson_Online Рік тому +71

    Luckily, I was not one of his mistress for three reasons.
    1. I’m black
    2. I was born in the early 2000s
    3. I’m American

    • @paraskevitsoni6394
      @paraskevitsoni6394 Рік тому

      You are lucky dear, he could infect you with STDs and yuck 🤢 what smelly man he could be they never bathed at Versailles

    • @shostysboo
      @shostysboo Рік тому +12

      Me too. And on top of that I’m like a foot taller than him, so that’s a long way to travel for a kiss

    • @paraskevitsoni6394
      @paraskevitsoni6394 Рік тому

      @@shostysboo short, smelly potential disease carrier ( not proper condoms and protection this era) hmm how women went all crazy about him OHHH I forgot.. king!!

    • @tasse.remplie.de.tisane
      @tasse.remplie.de.tisane Рік тому +11

      Fun fact : it might have been possible as Louis XIV is suspected to be the father of "la mauresse de moret" a nun famous for having the favor of the king and for being black :)
      However seeing as he died some time ago you indeed are not able to be one of his mistress

    • @RowanWarren78
      @RowanWarren78 Рік тому +2

      Sadly, race/ethnicity wouldn't save Sally Hemmings from such a fate.

  • @heidibock1017
    @heidibock1017 Рік тому +6

    Elizabeth-Charlotte (Lisolette) knew how to throw (German) shade.

  • @AlphonsodeBarbo
    @AlphonsodeBarbo 2 місяці тому

    What a grating voice on what could have been an enjoyable recount of Louis' mistresses... I had to go straight to subtitles and turn off the sound!

  • @historywithdarcey
    @historywithdarcey Рік тому +4

    I love your content ❤

  • @Vyvyarth
    @Vyvyarth Рік тому +15

    I saw reports that Established Titles could be a scam...is this true? Love your content

  • @deathcallingcard843
    @deathcallingcard843 Рік тому +1

    Has there been an episode about madame de pompadour yet? I would love one about her!

  • @valeriyavarnavskaya4081
    @valeriyavarnavskaya4081 Рік тому +6

    Surprisingly historically correct. I'm grateful you've mentioned La Voisin and her involvement in black masses and child sacrifice

  • @ankajagoda9796
    @ankajagoda9796 Рік тому +3

    Is there a TV show or movie about these women? This would make such a great series

  • @johannahunderwood4596
    @johannahunderwood4596 Рік тому +5

    Listening to these videos, I have come to realise that I live a boring and uneventful life. I want to keep it that way.

  • @thevegantitian
    @thevegantitian Рік тому +3

    One of my favorite French monarchs!