EastEnders - Martin tells Pauline that Mark's died (15th April 2004)

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  • @SpeccyHorace
    @SpeccyHorace Рік тому +26

    I forgot how much of an unbelievably thick bastard Martin was.

  • @vojo1461
    @vojo1461 2 роки тому +38

    From the time Sonia was a little girl, helping Bianca through all her troubles through now… she was always a calm head in the face of crises for the people she loved. Very well acted.

    • @tamsmith291
      @tamsmith291 2 роки тому +1

      Absolutely

    • @flight101
      @flight101 Рік тому +3

      Yes but she gave a baby away, killed Pauline, stole £30,000 off Dot.. what can I say ?????

    • @bp6329
      @bp6329 Рік тому

      @@flight101 she did the right thing giving the kid away, good for her.

    • @aimeewhelan9897
      @aimeewhelan9897 Рік тому +2

      @@flight101she didn’t kill Pauline. Pauline’s second husband did, and she gave Rebecca up for adoption. They never Intended to get her back only her adoptive parents died. Her guardian was too old to mind her. Yes she did try to take Rebecca at one point but that was when she was really young

    • @danielward7008
      @danielward7008 3 місяці тому

      ​@@flight101She didn't kill Pauline, and she was one of the few genuine people in Eastenders.

  • @VHSandVinylCollector
    @VHSandVinylCollector 3 роки тому +46

    Poor Martin, he loved his brother so much. He was the closest thing to a father after Arthur died.

    • @VHSandVinylCollector
      @VHSandVinylCollector Рік тому +2

      @@jd49631 well no, they were two very different people. But Mark was the closest thing to Arthur that Martin had in his life after Arthur's death.

  • @snakebitepellehue
    @snakebitepellehue 6 років тому +90

    I relate to the part where Pauline says that she would jump each time the phone rang thinking it would be "the call". I went through the same thing for two years when my uncle was dying of cancer. In the end I was asleep when the call came, but it was devastating nonetheless.

    • @eastendersstorylines7822
      @eastendersstorylines7822  6 років тому +20

      Sorry to hear that x

    • @davidwacko6623
      @davidwacko6623 5 років тому +4

      theyb sjould of never have killed mark off

    • @alberttatlock5237
      @alberttatlock5237 4 роки тому +3

      But the good news is, this is just acting and I'll bet they were trying not to laugh whilst filming this, Todd Carty peering around the door making funny faces.
      Let's do that take again, make it look more realistic, more tears luvvie, let's see the pain in your eye's... That's tv...

    • @Zephaniah3verse17
      @Zephaniah3verse17 3 роки тому +3

      No matter how prepared you might be for it, it's always a shocker when "the call" comes. I can empathise with you because the call announcing the passing of my mother-in-law came at 2:34 a.m.

    • @jimcool8658
      @jimcool8658 2 роки тому +1

      Dreaded that call 2 first with my dad had 2 rush home from work then with my mum

  • @life_seeker6102
    @life_seeker6102 5 років тому +97

    15 years later, Dot’s house still looks the same

    • @shanefolan
      @shanefolan 4 роки тому +4

      it does happen though-I've been in house over 15 year gaps and they look the same.

    • @kevinprior3549
      @kevinprior3549 4 роки тому +5

      DOT hasn't changed either. Not really. Just more wrinkly

    • @jahmeilwellington6681
      @jahmeilwellington6681 3 роки тому

      The kitchen looked different when Bianca ,Carol,Dan ,Sonia ,Billy and Alan lived there . When did Carol leave the square though

    • @reonmcnamara8072
      @reonmcnamara8072 3 роки тому

      She had her hallway and living room redecorated in 2009 and little that is not really interesting but she had changed her kitchen curtains in 2014

    • @nicholaswarrington9090
      @nicholaswarrington9090 3 роки тому

      My grandma recently moved into a care home and she has lived in her house since 1964. Some rooms have all of the same furniture she bought the year before but most are as they were in the 80s and early 90s

  • @chiedu90069
    @chiedu90069 6 років тому +68

    God, this show was amazing. Complex, imperfect characters and difficult situations. I think we all knew how good it was it at the time. At least there's that. It's a shadow of itself now.

    • @irishcountrygirl78
      @irishcountrygirl78 3 роки тому +8

      Totally. Will it ever be the same, l now watch out of habit. Such a pity.

  • @jenparry718
    @jenparry718 2 роки тому +15

    Pauline and Martin lost a whole family. Downhill all the way after Lou's death. Michelle and Vicky left for America, Arthur died, then Pete, then Martin was left alone. A once prominent family gone.

    • @nickyjones2709
      @nickyjones2709 Рік тому +1

      And that's what really happens, so sad 😢

  • @andylewis-g4i
    @andylewis-g4i 8 місяців тому +5

    i can relate to this so much, my lil brother is hiv+, NOT FROM DRUGS OR SEX, but hospital blood transfusion, he was 15yrs at the time, hes in his 40's now, but getting so ill each day, im in tears now coz hes suffering , and i cant do anything to help him, big brothers take care of there lil bro's...... im dreading that phone call coming in, god bless xxx

  • @iluvlafferty
    @iluvlafferty 4 роки тому +26

    They should never have recast Martin after James Alexandrou stopped playing him. Martin and Sonia had the perfect romantic exit together in a taxi in 2007, which is now tainted because Natalie Cassidy returned and so the writers broke them up off screen. Martin makes no sense with Stacey Slater; he always belonged with Sonia.

    • @DG-EditsYT
      @DG-EditsYT 4 місяці тому

      Its not real 😂

    • @iluvlafferty
      @iluvlafferty 4 місяці тому

      @@DG-EditsYT Noooo really?!? lol yeah I got that. Doesn't mean you can't criticize the direction a soap went in.

    • @DG-EditsYT
      @DG-EditsYT 4 місяці тому

      @@iluvlafferty you are talking like it's a real plot, when all eastenders ever do is recycle storylines narratives such as:
      Someone is cheating, lying or dying, or a criminal, or sometimes a marriage or similar, maybe the odd fight.. pathetic soap had its time decades ago

    • @iluvlafferty
      @iluvlafferty 4 місяці тому

      @@DG-EditsYT I haven't watched it in years. I know full well it stated being crap when Ross Kemp first left. Also what's wrong with saying I don't like a recast? I liked the original Martin Fowler actor, no big deal.

    • @DG-EditsYT
      @DG-EditsYT 4 місяці тому

      @@iluvlafferty you are playing it down, in your other comments you are going on like its detailed real life its not a mere dislike of re-casting actors

  • @TheNic81
    @TheNic81 5 років тому +44

    It’s a shame they don’t mention mark or make a tribute to him because hiv/aids is still dangerous in 2020 despite the advances they have made in 39 years

    • @TheNic81
      @TheNic81 5 років тому +2

      The aids epic started in 1981.

    • @leeriches8841
      @leeriches8841 4 роки тому +1

      @ Covid-19 hasn't alienated whole groups of society so it's not had the same thought changing impact that aids had

    • @blahblaahh3004
      @blahblaahh3004 4 роки тому

      @@leeriches8841 covid HAS alienated people though, if you're infected you have to be quarantined. What is that if not alienation? Also, the Chinese have been getting alienated more since this started so again, it has.

    • @NarnianHogwart
      @NarnianHogwart 4 роки тому +4

      HIV and AIDS are not the same thing. HIV (what Mark had) is now a very, very manageable disease and quality of life has greatly improved to the point that people with HIV now can get there Virus load so low they are ‘undetectable’ and they can’t even transmit the disease via sex. If anything a new HIV storyline should be show to break down the old stigma’s and show people that you can now have a long, full life. In 2019 98% of people receiving HIV medication had an undetectable virus load.

    • @NarnianHogwart
      @NarnianHogwart 4 роки тому +2

      @@blahblaahh3004 people who catch COVID-19 are being isolated not alienated, that’s two very different things. Your response is ignorant and just idiotic to be honest.

  • @kieranryan4335
    @kieranryan4335 6 років тому +77

    I know he's grieving but Martin was an awful eejit lol

    • @seanporter5867
      @seanporter5867 5 років тому +2

      Martin was a n*b head in this era (saying that he's worse today) lol 😀

    • @Richard_Straker
      @Richard_Straker 4 роки тому

      @HighGrade A - They did know he was HIV positive.

    • @scratchy1704
      @scratchy1704 3 роки тому +3

      A right attitude problem and so ungrateful

    • @samwebb6714
      @samwebb6714 3 роки тому +1

      He's not

    • @blizZted
      @blizZted 2 роки тому +2

      Why you crying he ain't you're brother. Charming Martin

  • @kristiansfan
    @kristiansfan 4 роки тому +19

    Nathalie cassidy her acting was great

  • @SnowTails
    @SnowTails 6 років тому +40

    I understand this was an important story line to raise awareness for but I'm so sad they killed mark off as he always helped everyone and was the voice of reason :( this actor that played martin was brilliant :) I do like the new one too, I would love sonia and martin to get back together in the present day :)

    • @alberttatlock5237
      @alberttatlock5237 4 роки тому +1

      The character was, that's how the script writer's developed him, Todd Carty is a very well spoke man in real life and absolutely nothing like the character he portrayed.
      Which was actually just An older version of Tucker Jenkins whom he played in Grange Hill, and later Tuckers Luck, the wise crackin, cheeky, Jack the lad, good hearted, helpful, leather jacket wearing, motorbike mad character

    • @flight101
      @flight101 2 роки тому +2

      Sonia is a thief and liar.. she gave a baby away, she hit pauline, stole Dots money... smh

  • @coke8045
    @coke8045 8 місяців тому +5

    omg Martin is insufferable

  • @danielwilliamson6180
    @danielwilliamson6180 6 років тому +15

    No wonder he became such an angry, violent and aggressive person when he married Stacey Branning.

    • @kevinprior3549
      @kevinprior3549 6 років тому +4

      How do you mean? Mark, Arthur, Pauline are all dead and his sister Michelle keeps buggering off the other side of the world. Most people would be upset with that

    • @danielward7008
      @danielward7008 3 місяці тому

      ​​@@kevinprior3549Mark also had it tough but he never became an obnoxious brat like Martin.

  • @leejones8582
    @leejones8582 4 роки тому +11

    should never have killed Mark off.

  • @loriannwhite8384
    @loriannwhite8384 5 років тому +13

    Outside of Mark, who in the Fowler family is a truly Good person? Not one other person!

    • @charliesedits2363
      @charliesedits2363 5 років тому +5

      Lori Ann White bex

    • @danwilson2092
      @danwilson2092 4 роки тому +4

      Lou (Pauline's mother). She set the right example of how to be in life.

    • @loriannwhite8384
      @loriannwhite8384 4 роки тому +2

      Dan Wilson Bull! That mean- spirited spiteful venomous old cow was hated by everyone except Pauline, Pete Dot and that other old lady with pug dog. Ethel.

    • @danwilson2092
      @danwilson2092 4 роки тому +2

      @@loriannwhite8384 I think that's because she was the most honest, and people didn't like that. She lived her life 'to the book' and as a result perhaps looked down on others a little too much, but she herself was a good, sincere woman.
      Mind you, seeing as your question was about the Fowlers and Lou was a Beale, I don't think I've answered it anyway!

    • @loriannwhite8384
      @loriannwhite8384 4 роки тому +1

      Dan Wilson Good save, lol. Still can’t stand anyone in the Beale/Fowler family line. Outside of Mark.

  • @kevinprior3549
    @kevinprior3549 6 років тому +28

    I wonder what this Martin is doing now? And how come no one told him Mark was dying before this?

    • @midnightstar1996
      @midnightstar1996 Рік тому

      After he was diagnosed with HIV, Mark was very private about his health. Why do you think it took him several years to finally tell everyone in the pub? He didn’t want his family to worry.

    • @aimeewhelan9897
      @aimeewhelan9897 Рік тому

      He’s a stage actor , Martin was very young when mark left. He wasn’t even goinh to tell Pauline . He only told 3 people he was dying . Not even Ian

  • @NarnianHogwart
    @NarnianHogwart 4 роки тому +6

    Martin was an annoying asshole for shouting at Sonia- he was in shock and denial but it’s still annoying to watch. However Sonia behaviour was also annoying as hell, why did she only give Martin the facts in annoyingly slow dribs and drabs - people need direct straight talk when it comes to this kind of thing.

  • @rachelmilligan95
    @rachelmilligan95 4 роки тому +11

    Love seeing all the comments hating on this Martin, saying he was bad. But completely ignoring the fact he just followed a script.

    • @iamothien9420
      @iamothien9420 4 роки тому +2

      Are you a bit special? You think a script makes an actor decent or garbage?

    • @rachelmilligan95
      @rachelmilligan95 4 роки тому

      I Am Othien I think you’re special if you can’t understand a script can ruin an actors character

    • @rachelb1502
      @rachelb1502 4 роки тому +1

      I remember people hating on the new Martin when he first came, saying he's not the "real" Martin 😂

    • @Richard_Straker
      @Richard_Straker 4 роки тому +1

      @@rachelmilligan95 - What else has Alexandrou done to suggest he was a good actor?

  • @peterduggan298
    @peterduggan298 6 років тому +14

    Poor Pauline

  • @josephmullin5845
    @josephmullin5845 3 роки тому +6

    Any one ever notice the stairs in the Fowler house lead off the kitchen but in the other houses they're in the front hallway?
    In another scene of the Fowler house from the front door being opened you can see stairs in the hallway.

    • @katbagley3214
      @katbagley3214 Рік тому

      Her house was on a different part of the square and it was smaller.

  • @danguchi91
    @danguchi91 6 років тому +10

    EastEnders Storylines, can you upload 27th October 1994 the episode after Sharongate

  • @jaredporikos2197
    @jaredporikos2197 6 років тому +11

    I loved James Alexandrou as martin , James Bye still has the depth but hes also male model martin , Id love to see James Alexandrou deal with Max Branning , he would win for sure

    • @kevinprior3549
      @kevinprior3549 4 роки тому +1

      Max is just a slimy piece of work

    • @jaredporikos2197
      @jaredporikos2197 4 роки тому

      @@kevinprior3549 truue , hate him

    • @iluvlafferty
      @iluvlafferty 4 роки тому

      I can't take James Bye seriously as Martin. He plays him completely different to how the original James did, looks nothing like him, and is very boring to watch. Plus, I hate that the writers destroyed Martin and Sonia when James Alexandrou didn't return.

    • @jahmeilwellington6681
      @jahmeilwellington6681 3 роки тому

      @@jaredporikos2197 he isnt that bad

    • @jaredporikos2197
      @jaredporikos2197 3 роки тому

      @@jahmeilwellington6681 i know

  • @colettenasielski7574
    @colettenasielski7574 3 роки тому +7

    RIP Mark Flower

  • @reganlee5196
    @reganlee5196 4 роки тому +4

    16 years ago today 💔

  • @alangiles4616
    @alangiles4616 Рік тому +2

    An early prototype of Ben in a strop. I have to say though I preferred James Alexandrou in the Martin role to James Bye.

  • @tamsmith291
    @tamsmith291 2 роки тому +3

    Very powerful storyline

  • @sunnygrover7586
    @sunnygrover7586 6 років тому +50

    This is classic eastenders the best but now it's just total bull shit! RIP pauline we really do miss you......... Eastenders kill off all the best characters

    • @veritastime9522
      @veritastime9522 6 років тому

      Rubbish, EE is still as excellent as ever. Maybe you're just not a proper fan.

    • @danielwilliamson6180
      @danielwilliamson6180 6 років тому

      I hardly watch EastEnders now. Not since the conclusion of the Lucy Beale murder storyline.

    • @anoncollins8226
      @anoncollins8226 6 років тому

      Stench Robinson and what was the last year of classic EastEnders to you?

    • @danielwilliamson6180
      @danielwilliamson6180 6 років тому

      I heard about Kush and that he slept with Stacey and baby Arthur. Max Branning's revenge on Albert Square. Abi Branning's affair with Steven Wicks. Abi Branning lying to Ben Mitchell about being pregnant with his child. Need I say more?

    • @CathyKitson
      @CathyKitson 6 років тому +3

      Sunny Grover Pauline was an awful character. A narrow-minded, sour old witch. She didn't start off like that - she was quite likable at the beginning, but she became more and more sour as the years went by.

  • @trevorthompson7604
    @trevorthompson7604 Рік тому +5

    Martin was way over the top here this was way to dramatic

  • @MikeStarKaraokeUK
    @MikeStarKaraokeUK 4 роки тому +4

    The new martin looks 29 years older than Sonia. Why they change actors it makes it so daft.

  • @clairebunt5887
    @clairebunt5887 5 років тому +5

    I liked Martyn in this 😪😪

  • @Spikkle
    @Spikkle 6 років тому +3

    The link in the description is an edit one, as in it takes you to the video manager, just FYI

  • @NICKROBERTS23
    @NICKROBERTS23 6 років тому +5

    Thanks for this, I seem to remember a scene where Dirty Den is back in the Fowler house, after Mark's death but before the funeral, do you have any further scenes please? I appreciate you must be very busy, thank you.

  • @emmatoplak2526
    @emmatoplak2526 4 роки тому +6

    Sonia still looks the same .. 16 years on .. I want the name of her surgeon

    • @kevinprior3549
      @kevinprior3549 2 роки тому +2

      I'd say she looks too thin these days and way too needy

  • @jakefisher2676
    @jakefisher2676 6 років тому +3

    I am in LOVE with this channel, do you have any scenes from 30 april 2004?

  • @phillipwilloughby5013
    @phillipwilloughby5013 2 роки тому +2

    The beginning of the video... the hallway of 25 Albert Square in 2004... still hasn't been redecorated in 2022.

    • @jd49631
      @jd49631 Рік тому

      That green wallpaper has been around since at least 1994.

  • @emilyarmstr2006
    @emilyarmstr2006 4 роки тому +3

    I was thinking there were siblings for a min lol

  • @Gmoz79
    @Gmoz79 Рік тому +3

    Martin was such a Muppet

  • @jonathandaly1615
    @jonathandaly1615 2 роки тому +4

    There's no way that Martin treating her like that

    • @doolan0543
      @doolan0543 Рік тому +2

      The pre-2007 Martin was awful and one of the most unlikeable people to exist.

  • @Darren-wi2kt
    @Darren-wi2kt 4 роки тому +3

    What was Pauline doing in Bognor Regis?

    • @muk8804
      @muk8804 3 роки тому

      Was just thinking that 🤣🤣🤣

  • @Gadfly333
    @Gadfly333 9 місяців тому +1

    Martin is such a beta male, so insufferable.
    Also Pauline is the entire reason that family fell apart.. Says a LOT that Mark wanted to die in PEACE away from his Mother who never offered him peace in life..

  • @Eurafrican
    @Eurafrican 6 років тому +12

    This Martin was thick and spiteful, asking his wife why she's crying when "it's my brother"? Narcissistic. Glad they rewrote the character to be more like Mark was.

    • @CathyKitson
      @CathyKitson 6 років тому

      He wasn't spiteful but he was an idiot.

    • @declanmcgonigle2233
      @declanmcgonigle2233 6 років тому +3

      He was just in a bad state of mind

    • @declanmcgonigle2233
      @declanmcgonigle2233 6 років тому +1

      Which is understandable

    • @jane1975
      @jane1975 6 років тому +4

      @Euro-African: In the beginning, Mark was a teenage brat too and into trouble and glue sniffing and stuff. The actor playing him though [David Scarborough ] committed suicide in 1986 by jumping off Beachy Head and his character was re-cast using Todd Carty, who had previously been known as Tucker Jenkins in the BBC Children's series, Grange Hill. He made his debut in 1987 and became part of the soaps first storyline involving HIV and AIDS which was controversial at the time, also, Mark being straight as well and contracting it from his girlfriend [ whom became his first wife], Jill [ she died from lesions on her brain and subsequent seizures arising from the condition a day after their marriage]put the disease on the map and the soap also addressed the prejudices and ignorance and the fears surrounding it. Mark was on retro-virals until 2003 when he told his mum that the medication was no longer working and that he knew he was going to die. He drove off out of the square and this story finished his character off in 2004, Michelle named her son she had had by Grant after him.
      Mark matured because he had too, saddled with a "death sentence" changed him, Martin just grew up and yes I like how James Bye is playing him.

    • @iluvlafferty
      @iluvlafferty 4 роки тому +2

      The new Martin (James Bye) is boring. Also, Martin and Stacey make no sense together. James Alexandrou had the more challenging task of playing Martin as a teenager and young adult. He did a great job and had fantastic chemistry with Natalie Cassidy. He was part of the greatest EastEnders era.

  • @kksachin
    @kksachin 4 роки тому +3

    I miss Mark

  • @innovativeinnovation6629
    @innovativeinnovation6629 4 роки тому +2

    6:19 sounds like Jack here

  • @declanmcgonigle2233
    @declanmcgonigle2233 6 років тому +8

    Who reckons Pauline was decent looking back in her day

    • @carolineg1872
      @carolineg1872 5 років тому +2

      @Dominic Wileman Watch Dad's Army, she's even younger then. She played Private Joe Walker's on/off girlfriend, Shirley.

    • @willowmadhuridixit8991
      @willowmadhuridixit8991 5 років тому +3

      Pauline (Wendy Richards) was stunning in her day. She played Ms Brahms in Are You Being Served?

    • @jan22150
      @jan22150 2 роки тому +3

      Pauline was a knockout , when she played in "Are you being served" !

  • @subhaan7861
    @subhaan7861 6 років тому +2

    Hi there do u have any from november 2004

  • @kevinprior3549
    @kevinprior3549 5 років тому +3

    If Sonia tried to make it simple for Martin why could she just say Mark mark died of AIDS. Cos essentially that's what it was

    • @NarnianHogwart
      @NarnianHogwart 4 роки тому +1

      Because that would have been a lie and wouldn’t have been any easier to accept. Mark didn’t ‘essentially’ have AIDS - he was HIV positive and developed cancer as a result. Don’t be so ignorant regarding AIDS and HIV.

  • @donnataylor7247
    @donnataylor7247 4 роки тому +1

    Martin,s having a hard time and grieving because his brother Mark,s died, passed way

  • @subhaan7861
    @subhaan7861 6 років тому +2

    Hi do you have any from 2004 i think it was 9th or 11th november when zoe goes for stacey like slaps her.

  • @chris7921
    @chris7921 4 роки тому +2

    Wendy Richard played Pauline fantastically but this scene never grabbed me much, it wasn’t well done, the Pauline that most people knew would of been in bits, even though she knew Mark would one day die young. It wasn’t put together well, but I imagine this was down to the producers of the show which ruin soaps

    • @shaunwakefield9793
      @shaunwakefield9793 3 роки тому

      I think this is played ok tbh, as Pauline had kept Mark's HiV away from Martin knowing, the way she's says no mother expects their child to die before them. Heartbreaking.

    • @LPCLASSICAL
      @LPCLASSICAL 2 роки тому

      @@shaunwakefield9793 yes agreed - beautifully played reaction to death of a son she knew would come before her own. Not everyone goes to pieces and screams "Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo" like Lucy's death

  • @slyph63
    @slyph63 Рік тому +1

    Death makes people say stupid things when they grieve. Doctors are not miracle workers. But Martin is the limit

  • @serenityfox8546
    @serenityfox8546 6 років тому +5

    Gosh he was vile back then

  • @samwest7350
    @samwest7350 4 роки тому +2

    This was on my birthday. My 16th. Bloody lifetime ago now. Lol.

  • @MJQueenForever
    @MJQueenForever 4 роки тому +4

    Felt that pain... Lost my own brother and lost my SHIT! Ugh. **sobs**

  • @arserobinson7118
    @arserobinson7118 2 роки тому +6

    He has the difficult task of telling her mark's dead and she has a pop at him, lol.

    • @jd49631
      @jd49631 Рік тому

      Don’t you mean SHE has the difficult task of telling HIM Marks dead and HE has a pop at HER? Such a dreadful circumstance for any family.

  • @Ickle_Bubba
    @Ickle_Bubba 2 роки тому +2

    I miss Wendy

  • @kevinprior3549
    @kevinprior3549 4 роки тому +1

    Martin could have said sorry to Sonia for shouting at her

  • @nickjackson6329
    @nickjackson6329 Рік тому +1

    They couldve switched over and seen him in the Bill

  • @MarkGenner1991
    @MarkGenner1991 6 місяців тому

    RIP Mark Fowler.

  • @joekavanagh4718
    @joekavanagh4718 2 роки тому +5

    Martin then was such an awful actor lol

  • @garyowens777
    @garyowens777 3 роки тому +6

    No matter who plays martin terrible actors each time

  • @subjectdelta4813
    @subjectdelta4813 Рік тому +4

    This Martin was bloody awful. A proper helmet.

  • @outlookesp
    @outlookesp 4 роки тому +3

    Non Hodgkins Lymphoma is inoperable and incurable... It can be treated with chemo to try to keep it in check but it is terminal. My wife has it and is in remission

    • @peanutbutterbruv
      @peanutbutterbruv 2 роки тому

      No it isn't, I know someone who recovered from Non Hodgkins Lymphoma caused by HIV. It is not universally terminal.

    • @outlookesp
      @outlookesp 2 роки тому

      @@peanutbutterbruv non-hidgkins type b is terminal. My wife has it.

    • @outlookesp
      @outlookesp 2 роки тому +1

      @CoronaLigma42 She passed away peacefully in her sleep jJne 2022-. 3 weeks later I had surgery for cancer in the colon. They successfully removed the tumour but there were still some cancerous cells hanging around so I am undergoing chemo at the moment. Hopefuly the fourth and last session starts Tuesday 29th November.

    • @outlookesp
      @outlookesp 2 роки тому

      @@peanutbutterbruv I am only telling you what the doctors said. She passed away in June 2022. It was type B, but in a rare form known as mantel cell

    • @Anonymous_Anon882
      @Anonymous_Anon882 Рік тому

      @@outlookesp bless you, Terry. I’m glad you recovered.

  • @markgenner3391
    @markgenner3391 5 років тому +5

    Mark Fowlers Death

  • @rstuart5418
    @rstuart5418 3 роки тому +5

    serious issues but terrible acting

  • @11monkeynuts
    @11monkeynuts 5 років тому +9

    Crap acting from the guy who played Martin! No wonder they replaced him years later with another head! Edit: Wendy Richards was wonderful, though. A consummate professional and a wonderful lady.

  • @melissaandrew8268
    @melissaandrew8268 4 роки тому +1

    The same that killed his first wife

  • @midnightstar1996
    @midnightstar1996 4 роки тому +2

    This Martin was the mardiest person ever.

    • @iluvlafferty
      @iluvlafferty 4 роки тому +1

      Cut him some slack, he just found out his brother had died.

    • @midnightstar1996
      @midnightstar1996 3 роки тому

      @@iluvlafferty I didn't mean from this episode. I meant on other occasions. Gosh.

    • @iluvlafferty
      @iluvlafferty 3 роки тому

      @@midnightstar1996 Well to be fair, did any teenager in Albert Square have an easy time? Martin grew up in a family that suffered from a whole range of problems. You had Pete Beale's wife being raped, Martin's brother Mark Fowler dying from AIDS, their father being conned and basically killed by someone he trusted... Eastenders makes everyone miserable.

  • @BenpriorPrior
    @BenpriorPrior 6 років тому +6

    Woow looking back at this now I realise how bad Martin's acting really is haha

  • @Richard_Straker
    @Richard_Straker 4 роки тому +4

    Bad acting from Alexandrou.

  • @stephenconnolly5904
    @stephenconnolly5904 5 років тому +9

    acting here is awful

  • @JoM-f7q
    @JoM-f7q 6 місяців тому +1

    What a horrible job to play a role nobody likes.

  • @elainemungal9469
    @elainemungal9469 4 роки тому +1

    R

  • @JoM-f7q
    @JoM-f7q 6 місяців тому

    Martin. Always useless,

  • @gummybearsreturn5781
    @gummybearsreturn5781 6 років тому +3

    This is karma because martin killed jamie so what goes around then comes back around

    • @jhibbitt1
      @jhibbitt1 6 років тому +5

      then the karma got the wrong person. also, mark got hiv long before martin accidentally killed jamie

    • @kevinprior3549
      @kevinprior3549 6 років тому

      Mark died of AIDS, a bit different from someone getting run over

    • @declanmcgonigle2233
      @declanmcgonigle2233 6 років тому +1

      He didn’t deliberately kill him

    • @--Fish
      @--Fish 5 років тому

      Idiotic comment. Mark was Ill way before anyone knew who Jamie was. Dickhead

    • @--Fish
      @--Fish 5 років тому

      @@kevinprior3549 he died of cancer if you listen to what Sonya said.

  • @scannaunderscore1
    @scannaunderscore1 2 роки тому +3

    I have HIV! I'm not gay! lol!

    • @missolesoul
      @missolesoul Рік тому

      What exactly is funny to you? You actually believe that only homosexuals get HIV? Ignoramus.

    • @scannaunderscore1
      @scannaunderscore1 Рік тому +1

      @@missolesoul no bellend, the joke is that back then mark kept getting accused of being gay when he wasn't and that's what made it funny