I like to think there’s no justification needed if it’s a hobby. That’s why we all have careers: so we can afford to do the stuff that gets us excited about getting out of bed. If you have 17 Les Pauls, who cares! It’s what YOU want. Hobbies are basically irrational, No one else has to understand it.
As a 20 year old, seems choosing a Tele, Strat or Les Paul can get you playing in bands for a few years. Along with an acoustic. But - hobby! Playing cover bands, open jams, and just at home - with a good job, getting a new guitar every 3-5 years is fun. IMO, some spend more on gambling, the bar, or extensive traveling. Nice to have something to show for it after years. Something to share with the kids, too.
I was up to 90 guitars… just listed 50 for consignment at Carter Vintage in Nashville. I’m in the Zach side of this where I love physical objects - appreciate the details and colors and design choices. I have the emotional attachment for sure. I could collect thousands of pens if I let myself. I have had to literally work surrounded by guitar cases and boxes. I’m grateful I’ve figured out how to let some go, but every time one sells it’s definitely bittersweet 25:00
@off People need: Air, water, food, and arguably a decent place to sleep. Even one guitar should be seen as the wonderful luxury that it truly is or you aren't being properly appreciative of it.
Years ago I went through firefighter training for a major city. One of my classmates was tooth-grindingwhiteknucklepantswettingjellykneewildeyed afraid of heights. And he still went up ladders, again and again. Bravest dude I ever knew. After a few weeks he told us, "Guys, I'm not having fun here. I can't have a career in which I am this scared all the time." None of us faulted him or thought less of him for stepping away.
Similarly, my uncle was a line man for the department of water and power in Southern California where high winds will frequently knock out the power. He said being on top of those poles, swinging back-and-forth in high winds and complete darkness was always terrifying. But he made really good money.
I dunno man, I think P-90's get their own category. Also, tele single coils sound quite a bit different from Strat single coils. That's at least 4 electrics.
Had maybe 50 guitars medium and very high grade guitar the last 35 years....and still own 3 electric and 2 acoustic! No more needed . Cheers from France folks 😉
I've got an amp and Tele in my bedroom. So good for waking up in the morning too. 2 Strats,Flying V and Telecaster troublemaker in the loving space with cab and little tube head. My partner is very cool, she gets it
A few weeks ago I installed Jason Isbell signature pickups in my Telecaster and wired a 4-way switch. The more I play it, the more I feel like I’d be happy to play this for an entire gig.
I have about 15 guitars, and they bring me happiness. I have a variety of brands and styles, so each one brings out different tones and playing from me. I try to play each a couple times every month.
For ages I went back-and-forth buying, selling buying, selling. I then picked up my 335 (well, Collings - but still) and it just stopped. I now just have one of each main categories: Strat, LP, 335, P90.
DANG! I was just about to make a video on my tiny little channel about this topic. I probably still will. Short answer - guitars (when combined with amps and effects) are like keyboards. The palette of sounds you want determines what you need. And if different guitars cause you to write differently, and songwriting is important to you, that can help.
I have 9 and a banjo and currently building an oil can guitar out of a Peavy Predator someone gave me that played awesome but the electronics were shot. I play them all almost every week, but luckily I work from home. It is up to each person, and hey- WAAAAY cheaper than all the Mountain Bikes I used to own and try to maintain. Great Topic guys!
I went 30+ years with a Carvin electric, a Peavey amp, a Martin, and an upright bass. Then I retired, built a music studio, and now Im drowning in way too much stuff and Im too old to really make good use of it. Oh well at least I dont gamble or golf:)
I live in LA county and given the recent wildfires, I organized my most valuable guitars and equipment to the bare essentials and it was quite revealing to me what I really value most (1998 PRS CE 24, 2024 PRS Custom 24, and 70’s era Gibson Hummingbird, Mesa Boogie Mark V, plus some pedals no longer made or otherwise difficult to replace) in case we needed to evacuate. Thankfully that didn’t happen but it was an interesting moment. Nevertheless, GAS can be fun, just be honest with yourself whether it’s causing you harm or it’s a distraction from the hard work of being creative. BTW, I think Rhett has worn that Madison Cunningham Revealer shirt for the last three episodes 😂
Had the same thing with the Australian Wildfires of late 2019/early 2020, which was then followed (the following week) by severe flooding at my place and in my area. I got me gear together and only had enough cases (having not been able to get to a music shop to buy more) and filled only the 3 cases I had. Turns out, the only one I really kept after all these years from my original guitars back then was my PRS. In theory, I could survive with a tele and a humbucker guitar, despite being a strat guy at heart. Tele is just too versatile.
I need two. An acoustic and an electric. For hobby and weekend warrior gigging. What I have is three acoustics, one of which is a 12 string, four electrics, one bass and an acoustisonic.
By far one of the best DIT I’ve heard. I appreciate the honesty from you both. This is a conversation I’ve been having with myself lately. GAS is a real thing that we can all get into. I find I just need to play more and practice more. I currently have 3 guitars: 2 electrics and 1 acoustic. Of course I want more 😂
I can relate to all of this. Since my YT channel is growing and growing I am becoming more obsessed with cameras and learning the Adobe sweet. I think as humans continuous learning is what keeps us happy. The quest for new knowledge is why I am here. Keep going.
I at one time had 14 guitars and several amps got family kids and dispondent about my playing sold all but one guitar ( a gift from my parents) one amp and one pedal all of which spent a decade in the closet most of the time. Back into trying to play again the last few years and I have 9 guitars and two amps and twenty or so pedals. 3 Strats but very different from each other a 50 60 and 70s style. And other type guitars
2 Fender Strat owner (one maple, one rosewood), Gibson SG Special (with humbuckers), Maghini Custom pelham blue Gibson-Tele thang (tele bridge and a gemini neck pickup), vintage '50's Kay Acoustic, Eastman Acoustic E20OOV, and my partscaster baritone made with the help with Waldotronics and Jerry's Tone Store. So really, I could live with my strat, but why torment myself?! Just have FUN!
Looking forward to Zach’s Warhammer channel dropping. Just remember Zach: paint with two thin coats, shade washes cover a multitude of sins, and Orks iz best.
I think this is a question that has two streams. 1 how long have you been playing 2. How big of a music career you have. So most people have a similar pathway. As a kid you want to play guitar. So day 1 you have 1 guitar. Sometimes it’s an acoustic sometimes it’s an electric. As you get better you likely buy the other. Neither of this has any real resale value so your collection has 2. About when you get to your 20s if you gig you upgrade these so that’s 4 or maybe 6 if you need back ups. If your a hobbyist that doesnt gig well it’s probably 2 more before your 30. Mid priced upgrades. In your 30s if you’re a local gig guy. You likely add at least another 4 cause well you’ve started to beat the others up. If you got slightly famous your probably getting to at least 10-15 cause they are tools and your looking for sounds and so forth. The hobbyist starts having kids and so forth. So maybe no more maybe a few more depending on your income In your 40s the local gog guy has another 4 sane reason. The pro just has stuff turning up. The hobbyist finally starts to build some wealth maybe another 2 -4 I’m a hobbyist I have 18. About 8-10 have been bought since I was 40 and that was really about just buying good stuff. About half of what I have is totally worthless and the rest are so much money I have to list it seperately in my contents insurance. Sure everyone’s journey is different and this is a generalization. The pro gets to their 70s and have to sell about a 100 just to clear room out of their storage cause they really won’t be out playing much. The local gog guy probanly starts selling in their 50s cause well you’ve really haven’t touched the older ones for a while and that’s $$ in the door for better stuff. Anyway that was way too long. Sorry haha
I have GAS for sure. I just left a local shop with a Way Huge Swollen Pickle. Do I need yet another fuzz? No. Do I really play with fuzz a lot? Nope. I’m more of an overdrive guy. Am I happy I bought it? Hell yes. That thing is a monster pedal. I’m a hobbyist who never plays for people. But I love having this stuff and like Zach said, working on the stuff is just as much fun as playing.
So many good nuggets here - GAS related - dopamine hit, 100%, structuring the deal in your head (what can I sell to get X) trying to get a new one, etc. The bigger question is what happens when you build up 3-5 excellent ones and you have to consolidate, and you believe there is merit in all of them lol.
yeah, as a gigging player myself I need, bare minimum, Two guitars. I always have a backup at gigs even if I only need one guitar for the set, (and I HAVE broken strings on stage, so it has come in clutch) I own 4 guitars right now and they all bring something different to the table: hss strat, set-neck dual humbucker, jazzmaster modded with P90s, and a baritone. I'm hoping to grab a few more different things in the future, just to have more tools in the tool box
Need? 1. Want? 5, for pickup and tuning variety. I have 3/5 and just ordered the 4th. 1. SSS Strat in E standard 2. HH Schecter C-1 in E standard 3. HSS Strat in Eb 4. Greco Mirage in D/drop C (just ordered this, waiting for it to ship from Japan). 5. P90 SG to be in C# (yet to buy, not in any rush). They're all black, except the HSS strat which is white w/ blue kinda pearloid-looking pickguard. The Iceman/Mirage has been my dream guitar for like 20 years and I finally found one with all the details I like.
i have to say...i really enjoy your guys' podcasts. wish i lived near you so i could hang and chat about gear with you. rhett, which make of mic boom stand is that? i need one for recording acoustic geetars. is it attached to your desk? btw zach, i own the oracle,argo and mjolnir. both excellent pedals.i think i need a golden fleece next. keep up the great work, both of you
Rhett, I like the way you explained the mood. I know you e done videos on a lot of “all time” pedals, but perhaps a series explaining how they work after youve had an extended time with them. Curious about the chroma console and how you’re using it as well.
I have 8 but all in different tunings that match an album I want to learn. Then I try learning the songs and only get so far cause I'm not that good. But it's fun taking that deeper look into songs you love by matching the tuning and attempting to learn the songs.
You need, at minimum, 11 guitars. Tele, Strat, LP, 335, Jazz Box, 6 string acoustic, 12 string acoustic, Classic(al), Resonator, Lap Steel, and Bass. Done.
I learned a lot about my amp when I just plugged straight into it again after 5 years of always using a pedal board. Back to the board but idk if it’s adding to my creativity or creating distractions lol
Single coil telly and a sg, You got it. Except you need nashville tuning, Whole step down open tuning so you can move the capo and do 7 sting high gain metal and not to mention the baritone. Plus Love.
I have three guitars I could never part with: the first guitar I ever bought a Kawai KS12, the Fylde acoustic which was my 40th birthday present to myself and the Les Paul which was my 50th birthday present to myself. Besides that I have 14 more. One was bought because the band I was in at the time wanted to do some songs that required some serious dive bombs so I got a PRS SE with a Floyd Rose on it. The rest are a mixture of guitars I bought because they seemed cool or were free or in one case a Christmas present or are mules to hack around mess with repair and/or carve up as experiments. Some some are instruments to be played and others to be played around with but they are all good fun.
I used to chase guitars I hear on UA-cam thinking that this or that guitar will finally enable me to grow as a player. In the end, playing is the only thing that can make me a better player. When Julian Lage gets his sound from a telecaster, you realize it’s not about the guitar. I say this as I look at my 8 guitars, and I still suck as a player!
Discipline pays dividends over time. I just saw Julian Lage live recently for the first time and you can see the hours in his playing. And yet how much joy does he have when he plays now? If someone can relate practice discipline directly to joy then it becomes easier to justify when it’s not always convenient. Ive been playing for 25 years (many professionally) and that’s what’s kept me going. That and personal goals to keep you accountable, of course 😊 I have never had more joy playing the guitar than I do today. Listen to ppl like Slash and David Gilmour and they will say the same: they’ve never had more fun than they are right now. That hard work pays off then you get to keep it forever. Cheers friend
40:30 have you guys seen Josh Scott’s newest video on his personal channel? He talks all about this quote and these two videos came out on the same day or just after one another. Cool aligning of ideas!
I had three -- two Jazzmasters and a humbucker guitar. I ended up buying another humbuggy guitar as my original one was getting more use for recording, live performances, touring and weekly practices and was starting to wear. If it went down I'd be boned. So I'd say four is a good number. I never needed an acoustic since and it's less necessary since I use digital modelling at home so anything's a couch guitar.
I have a dozen guitars and several other stringed instruments, mandolin, banjo, bass, tiple, etc but if I had to pair it down to guitars....most of my gigging days I had 3 guitars ..one acoustic and two electrics...early days just 1 of each..today I need 5 of the dozen to cover my guitar needs 335, tele, Martin, 12 string and nylon string...that'll cover most of my needs.
I have a hard time justifying my collection even to myself. I'm a mediocre noodler on my best days and I wound up with 12 guitars - many of them impulse purchases. Now I realize that they own me instead of me owning them. Just the string changes, twice a year setups and maintenance equates to less time playing. Out of the 12 I have I'd like to unload 7 and either get or build a super rad custom Tele.
Tele, Les Paul (or SG), Gretsch or Firebird or 335. Or substitute a Strat for the Tele if you want a whammy bar.Add an acoustic and a 12 string if you play music that uses them...Then again you could just make sure the 3 food groups are covered ---Fender single coil, P90 and Humbucker or a combo of Custom or 'modern classic;' brands like PRS, Suhr,etc...
We're all chasing an affecting experience. Kant describes this as 'purposive without a purpose'. There's so much value in chasing that which has no functional value. At least thats what i told my wife when she asked me to count how many guitars ive built.
I always tell people, pkaying guitar and buying guitars are 2 seperate only semi related hobbies. If tracking down that next piece of gear makes tou happy and you can afford it, then do it. The hunt itself is fun.
If you play you need to have (or have had) enough guitars to know what guitars you really need. Really though, air, water. food and arguably a decent place to sleep are things you "need". A guitar, even if it is your only one instrument is a luxury and should be prperly appreciated as such.
Guitars I want: - a Strat - a Tele - a Jazzmaster - a Tele deluxe (or other humbucker guitar) - a P90 guitar - a Bass - an acoustic - an acoustic you can take camping. I think I can stop at those eight. Guitars I need: None, if we're being completely honest. It's not a job. It's just a hobby. Now let's consider fountain pens and watches.
Sheraton II with Gibson 57, Strat SS + minihamb little 59. 4 acoustic guitars (3 western, 1 classic). For studios working that good. All guitars for left handed. Joe Pass have been 1 guitar… One guitar!??…. Yes! ;)
I hear yah @Rhett Shull. I’ve played guitar and sucked at it for 30 years. I’ve put a pause at it and I really recommend Bitwig as a DAW. It tickles my interest. It will be awesome for controlling and enhancing your synths
In my case I have 10, I NEED 8. What I need is an SSS, an HH, an acoustic with a preamp, and a bass - all that x2 cause I need backups for gigs, which makes it 8. I also have a classical guitar that was my first ever guitar and a super cheap crappy acoustic I borrowed from and a firend and she doesn't want it back so these are the 2 I don't need.
I've seen those 'body guards' foam rubber melt the nitro finish off an old guitar and then you had to chip it away from the guitar. Do NOT apply to anything with a nitro finish.
I was looking at real estate in Park City Utah the other day. If someone can justify spending $50 million on a "ski cabin", then buy as many guitars as you want. It's o.k.
I don’t think that’s a ladder per say, very likely there was another piece that would’ve created like a staircase ladder. And your buddy was right that was for dolls and our plants and what not that is not a ledge for children to play, the tines of the railing are spaced much too far apart….i describe my illness as “P.A.S” , or Pedal Acquisition Syndrome, i’m a professional bass player, but I started playing guitar again last year bought a telecaster and thanks to guys like you two, I can’t stop buying pedals for it, I have three overdrives three flanges, three phases overdrive preamp Evantide H9 compression and probably four delays at least including a vintage Ibanez AD 80… in fact, yesterday I just had to have an 80s era Japanese made Boss super overdrive, please help.
This is such a stupid question. Depends on the individual. Do you play classical? Do you play, rock,metal,country, jazz, blues? Do you play ALL those genre's?
Honestly i have can oive with 1 electric and 1 acoustic. I go crazy with pedals but i find guitars just sit there if i have a few. I currently have 2 electrics - greysch white falcon, and strandberg salen. Only the salen gets used at the moment
I think if you play at all outside your bedroom in public, one can argue that you need 2 guitars at the absolute lowest level. Obviously this might not be realistic for some people financially but if you have the means I would say it’s ideal to have 2. If something goes wrong you at least have a backup ready to go
I'm sitting at 19 right now but I'm eyeing up a Sire M7 base so that might change to 20 in the next few weeks. One guitar guy? That would be Willie Nelson.
The moral of this entire discussion, is who cares what anyone else chooses to spend their money on. It may seem stupid to a whole lot of people, but if it’s not stupid to them, then it’s not stupid.
Did they just start carrying that brand? I was looking at tube amps the other day and noticed they had a lot of them. I’ve never heard of them, but they must be pretty good?
I like to think there’s no justification needed if it’s a hobby. That’s why we all have careers: so we can afford to do the stuff that gets us excited about getting out of bed. If you have 17 Les Pauls, who cares! It’s what YOU want. Hobbies are basically irrational, No one else has to understand it.
Absolutely correct!
Amen homie 👏🏼💛
This is such a great way to put it
As a 20 year old, seems choosing a Tele, Strat or Les Paul can get you playing in bands for a few years. Along with an acoustic. But - hobby! Playing cover bands, open jams, and just at home - with a good job, getting a new guitar every 3-5 years is fun. IMO, some spend more on gambling, the bar, or extensive traveling. Nice to have something to show for it after years. Something to share with the kids, too.
Damn, that's spot on
I was up to 90 guitars… just listed 50 for consignment at Carter Vintage in Nashville. I’m in the Zach side of this where I love physical objects - appreciate the details and colors and design choices. I have the emotional attachment for sure. I could collect thousands of pens if I let myself. I have had to literally work surrounded by guitar cases and boxes. I’m grateful I’ve figured out how to let some go, but every time one sells it’s definitely bittersweet 25:00
Need: 0 Settled On: 16 Want: All
Come on now, you NEED at least 1 :)
@off People need: Air, water, food, and arguably a decent place to sleep.
Even one guitar should be seen as the wonderful luxury that it truly is or you aren't being properly appreciative of it.
@ it’s not a luxury for me! It’s a necessity.
Years ago I went through firefighter training for a major city. One of my classmates was tooth-grindingwhiteknucklepantswettingjellykneewildeyed afraid of heights. And he still went up ladders, again and again. Bravest dude I ever knew. After a few weeks he told us, "Guys, I'm not having fun here. I can't have a career in which I am this scared all the time." None of us faulted him or thought less of him for stepping away.
Similarly, my uncle was a line man for the department of water and power in Southern California where high winds will frequently knock out the power. He said being on top of those poles, swinging back-and-forth in high winds and complete darkness was always terrifying. But he made really good money.
You need a humbucker, a single-coil, and an acoustic. Anything else is gravy. Delicious, wonderful, fattening, mouth-watering gravy,
In the words of Ed from Ed, Edd, and Eddy, "mmmmm, gravy!"
I dunno man, I think P-90's get their own category. Also, tele single coils sound quite a bit different from Strat single coils. That's at least 4 electrics.
Just got my 55th guitar today and this episode come out.. Not sure why youtube recommend it to me...
Had maybe 50 guitars medium and very high grade guitar the last 35 years....and still own 3 electric and 2 acoustic! No more needed . Cheers from France folks 😉
Always enjoy your podcasts. Thanks so much
I've got an amp and Tele in my bedroom. So good for waking up in the morning too. 2 Strats,Flying V and Telecaster troublemaker in the loving space with cab and little tube head. My partner is very cool, she gets it
A few weeks ago I installed Jason Isbell signature pickups in my Telecaster and wired a 4-way switch. The more I play it, the more I feel like I’d be happy to play this for an entire gig.
I have about 15 guitars, and they bring me happiness. I have a variety of brands and styles, so each one brings out different tones and playing from me. I try to play each a couple times every month.
For ages I went back-and-forth buying, selling buying, selling. I then picked up my 335 (well, Collings - but still) and it just stopped. I now just have one of each main categories: Strat, LP, 335, P90.
DANG! I was just about to make a video on my tiny little channel about this topic. I probably still will. Short answer - guitars (when combined with amps and effects) are like keyboards. The palette of sounds you want determines what you need. And if different guitars cause you to write differently, and songwriting is important to you, that can help.
Ha! Me too! I’ll keep an eye out for yours. Cheers 🎉
For recording, having different tones and tunings that inspire me to play is the key. Anything that gets you playing guitar
I have 9 and a banjo and currently building an oil can guitar out of a Peavy Predator someone gave me that played awesome but the electronics were shot. I play them all almost every week, but luckily I work from home. It is up to each person, and hey- WAAAAY cheaper than all the Mountain Bikes I used to own and try to maintain. Great Topic guys!
I went 30+ years with a Carvin electric, a Peavey amp, a Martin, and an upright bass. Then I retired, built a music studio, and now Im drowning in way too much stuff and Im too old to really make good use of it. Oh well at least I dont gamble or golf:)
You don’t gamble or golf, yet.
Build a bouldering wall to get up to the loft!
I live in LA county and given the recent wildfires, I organized my most valuable guitars and equipment to the bare essentials and it was quite revealing to me what I really value most (1998 PRS CE 24, 2024 PRS Custom 24, and 70’s era Gibson Hummingbird, Mesa Boogie Mark V, plus some pedals no longer made or otherwise difficult to replace) in case we needed to evacuate. Thankfully that didn’t happen but it was an interesting moment. Nevertheless, GAS can be fun, just be honest with yourself whether it’s causing you harm or it’s a distraction from the hard work of being creative.
BTW, I think Rhett has worn that Madison Cunningham Revealer shirt for the last three episodes 😂
It’s like trying to choose which of your kids you love most 😂
I hope you never have to choose. These fires are no joke.
Had the same thing with the Australian Wildfires of late 2019/early 2020, which was then followed (the following week) by severe flooding at my place and in my area.
I got me gear together and only had enough cases (having not been able to get to a music shop to buy more) and filled only the 3 cases I had. Turns out, the only one I really kept after all these years from my original guitars back then was my PRS.
In theory, I could survive with a tele and a humbucker guitar, despite being a strat guy at heart. Tele is just too versatile.
I need two. An acoustic and an electric. For hobby and weekend warrior gigging. What I have is three acoustics, one of which is a 12 string, four electrics, one bass and an acoustisonic.
One needs 4 guitars, A Gibson Les Paul, An American Fender Stratocaster, A Gibson SG and an American Fender Telecaster :)
By far one of the best DIT I’ve heard. I appreciate the honesty from you both. This is a conversation I’ve been having with myself lately. GAS is a real thing that we can all get into. I find I just need to play more and practice more. I currently have 3 guitars: 2 electrics and 1 acoustic. Of course I want more 😂
52:46 😂Rhett’s response is perfect.
One with single coils. Another with humbuckers. One with P90s and an acoustic.
I can relate to all of this. Since my YT channel is growing and growing I am becoming more obsessed with cameras and learning the Adobe sweet. I think as humans continuous learning is what keeps us happy. The quest for new knowledge is why I am here. Keep going.
We need a Rhett collection video
I at one time had 14 guitars and several amps got family kids and dispondent about my playing sold all but one guitar ( a gift from my parents) one amp and one pedal all of which spent a decade in the closet most of the time. Back into trying to play again the last few years and I have 9 guitars and two amps and twenty or so pedals. 3 Strats but very different from each other a 50 60 and 70s style. And other type guitars
Love to you lads - another amazing conversation ❤
So cool you're dipping a rig with a Roland.
A strat for blues, a Les Paul for classic rock, a PRS for modern, a Tele for twang and a superstrat for metal… and an acoustic
2 Fender Strat owner (one maple, one rosewood), Gibson SG Special (with humbuckers), Maghini Custom pelham blue Gibson-Tele thang (tele bridge and a gemini neck pickup), vintage '50's Kay Acoustic, Eastman Acoustic E20OOV, and my partscaster baritone made with the help with Waldotronics and Jerry's Tone Store. So really, I could live with my strat, but why torment myself?! Just have FUN!
Looking forward to Zach’s Warhammer channel dropping. Just remember Zach: paint with two thin coats, shade washes cover a multitude of sins, and Orks iz best.
I think this is a question that has two streams. 1 how long have you been playing 2. How big of a music career you have.
So most people have a similar pathway. As a kid you want to play guitar. So day 1 you have 1 guitar. Sometimes it’s an acoustic sometimes it’s an electric. As you get better you likely buy the other.
Neither of this has any real resale value so your collection has 2. About when you get to your 20s if you gig you upgrade these so that’s 4 or maybe 6 if you need back ups.
If your a hobbyist that doesnt gig well it’s probably 2 more before your 30. Mid priced upgrades.
In your 30s if you’re a local gig guy. You likely add at least another 4 cause well you’ve started to beat the others up.
If you got slightly famous your probably getting to at least 10-15 cause they are tools and your looking for sounds and so forth.
The hobbyist starts having kids and so forth. So maybe no more maybe a few more depending on your income
In your 40s the local gog guy has another 4 sane reason.
The pro just has stuff turning up.
The hobbyist finally starts to build some wealth maybe another 2 -4
I’m a hobbyist I have 18. About 8-10 have been bought since I was 40 and that was really about just buying good stuff. About half of what I have is totally worthless and the rest are so much money I have to list it seperately in my contents insurance.
Sure everyone’s journey is different and this is a generalization.
The pro gets to their 70s and have to sell about a 100 just to clear room out of their storage cause they really won’t be out playing much.
The local gog guy probanly starts selling in their 50s cause well you’ve really haven’t touched the older ones for a while and that’s $$ in the door for better stuff.
Anyway that was way too long. Sorry haha
I have GAS for sure. I just left a local shop with a Way Huge Swollen Pickle. Do I need yet another fuzz? No. Do I really play with fuzz a lot? Nope. I’m more of an overdrive guy. Am I happy I bought it? Hell yes. That thing is a monster pedal. I’m a hobbyist who never plays for people. But I love having this stuff and like Zach said, working on the stuff is just as much fun as playing.
One good Strat. 2 good overdrives or fuzz. One loud, slightly dirty amp. Everything else...delay, wah, phase is just for fun.
That was like a modern andy summers rig!
How many guitars do you need? Yes. :)
So many good nuggets here - GAS related - dopamine hit, 100%, structuring the deal in your head (what can I sell to get X) trying to get a new one, etc. The bigger question is what happens when you build up 3-5 excellent ones and you have to consolidate, and you believe there is merit in all of them lol.
"I don't see a lot of value in having 12 chisels"
Well, there are many different types and sizes of chisels for different applications...
yeah, as a gigging player myself I need, bare minimum, Two guitars. I always have a backup at gigs even if I only need one guitar for the set, (and I HAVE broken strings on stage, so it has come in clutch)
I own 4 guitars right now and they all bring something different to the table: hss strat, set-neck dual humbucker, jazzmaster modded with P90s, and a baritone. I'm hoping to grab a few more different things in the future, just to have more tools in the tool box
Need? 1. Want? 5, for pickup and tuning variety. I have 3/5 and just ordered the 4th.
1. SSS Strat in E standard
2. HH Schecter C-1 in E standard
3. HSS Strat in Eb
4. Greco Mirage in D/drop C (just ordered this, waiting for it to ship from Japan).
5. P90 SG to be in C# (yet to buy, not in any rush).
They're all black, except the HSS strat which is white w/ blue kinda pearloid-looking pickguard. The Iceman/Mirage has been my dream guitar for like 20 years and I finally found one with all the details I like.
Brilliant discussion
Bare minimum guitars, two, a Strat and a Les Paul
If you cant do it on either one of those, it cant be done.
I'm the same way. Learning new things is super fun. And yeah, modular synths are so much fun.
i have to say...i really enjoy your guys' podcasts. wish i lived near you so i could hang and chat about gear with you. rhett, which make of mic boom stand is that? i need one for recording acoustic geetars. is it attached to your desk? btw zach, i own the oracle,argo and mjolnir. both excellent pedals.i think i need a golden fleece next. keep up the great work, both of you
1:59 They just made kids a lot tougher back then. I think the cut off was my little brother’s generation born in ‘81. 😂
We just knew how to fall.
I love your realness if that's a word. From what I gather about you, You like southern rock. Resurgence bro, Take the Raines.
Rhett, I like the way you explained the mood. I know you e done videos on a lot of “all time” pedals, but perhaps a series explaining how they work after youve had an extended time with them. Curious about the chroma console and how you’re using it as well.
That’s a great idea!
To answer the question:
A 1957 Gibson Les Paul Gold Top
A Fender Strat
A 1968 Guild Starfire V
A 1998 Taylor 514
A '65 Princeton Reverb reissue
I have 8 but all in different tunings that match an album I want to learn. Then I try learning the songs and only get so far cause I'm not that good. But it's fun taking that deeper look into songs you love by matching the tuning and attempting to learn the songs.
You need, at minimum, 11 guitars. Tele, Strat, LP, 335, Jazz Box, 6 string acoustic, 12 string acoustic, Classic(al), Resonator, Lap Steel, and Bass. Done.
I learned a lot about my amp when I just plugged straight into it again after 5 years of always using a pedal board. Back to the board but idk if it’s adding to my creativity or creating distractions lol
I'm genuinely shocked. I'm just a regular putz and I have 11 guitars. I thought for sure you two would be in the 50+ range!
Single coil telly and a sg, You got it. Except you need nashville tuning, Whole step down open tuning so you can move the capo and do 7 sting high gain metal and not to mention the baritone. Plus Love.
I have three guitars I could never part with: the first guitar I ever bought a Kawai KS12, the Fylde acoustic which was my 40th birthday present to myself and the Les Paul which was my 50th birthday present to myself. Besides that I have 14 more. One was bought because the band I was in at the time wanted to do some songs that required some serious dive bombs so I got a PRS SE with a Floyd Rose on it. The rest are a mixture of guitars I bought because they seemed cool or were free or in one case a Christmas present or are mules to hack around mess with repair and/or carve up as experiments. Some some are instruments to be played and others to be played around with but they are all good fun.
Looking forward to Zach's upcoming guitar/warhammer combo podcast! That covers both my hobbies :D
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It’s toad? All this time I thought it was toast and was waiting for the ultimate French toast recipe. You mean this isn’t a cooking thing????
@@marvinadn
What do you think they’re doing with the toad?
I used to chase guitars I hear on UA-cam thinking that this or that guitar will finally enable me to grow as a player. In the end, playing is the only thing that can make me a better player. When Julian Lage gets his sound from a telecaster, you realize it’s not about the guitar. I say this as I look at my 8 guitars, and I still suck as a player!
Discipline pays dividends over time. I just saw Julian Lage live recently for the first time and you can see the hours in his playing. And yet how much joy does he have when he plays now? If someone can relate practice discipline directly to joy then it becomes easier to justify when it’s not always convenient. Ive been playing for 25 years (many professionally) and that’s what’s kept me going. That and personal goals to keep you accountable, of course 😊 I have never had more joy playing the guitar than I do today. Listen to ppl like Slash and David Gilmour and they will say the same: they’ve never had more fun than they are right now. That hard work pays off then you get to keep it forever. Cheers friend
40:30 have you guys seen Josh Scott’s newest video on his personal channel? He talks all about this quote and these two videos came out on the same day or just after one another. Cool aligning of ideas!
I had three -- two Jazzmasters and a humbucker guitar. I ended up buying another humbuggy guitar as my original one was getting more use for recording, live performances, touring and weekly practices and was starting to wear. If it went down I'd be boned.
So I'd say four is a good number. I never needed an acoustic since and it's less necessary since I use digital modelling at home so anything's a couch guitar.
I have a dozen guitars and several other stringed instruments, mandolin, banjo, bass, tiple, etc but if I had to pair it down to guitars....most of my gigging days I had 3 guitars ..one acoustic and two electrics...early days just 1 of each..today I need 5 of the dozen to cover my guitar needs 335, tele, Martin, 12 string and nylon string...that'll cover most of my needs.
Rhett and Josh vibrating on the same frequency 🤝〰️💛💯
For a gig I take 3.
3 electrics or acoustic/electric and 2 electrics.
Gator pedalboard with 3 guitar stand on the top of board case.
I have a hard time justifying my collection even to myself. I'm a mediocre noodler on my best days and I wound up with 12 guitars - many of them impulse purchases. Now I realize that they own me instead of me owning them. Just the string changes, twice a year setups and maintenance equates to less time playing. Out of the 12 I have I'd like to unload 7 and either get or build a super rad custom Tele.
In my case 3:
- P90 LP,
- 335 with PAFs and
- Jazzmaster.
I'm down to 3 guitars, (Tuttle, Suhr, Martin)...maybe add a Nacho Tele at some point.
Tele, Les Paul (or SG), Gretsch or Firebird or 335. Or substitute a Strat for the Tele if you want a whammy bar.Add an acoustic and a 12 string if you play music that uses them...Then again you could just make sure the 3 food groups are covered ---Fender single coil, P90 and Humbucker or a combo of Custom or 'modern classic;' brands like PRS, Suhr,etc...
We're all chasing an affecting experience. Kant describes this as 'purposive without a purpose'. There's so much value in chasing that which has no functional value. At least thats what i told my wife when she asked me to count how many guitars ive built.
I always tell people, pkaying guitar and buying guitars are 2 seperate only semi related hobbies. If tracking down that next piece of gear makes tou happy and you can afford it, then do it. The hunt itself is fun.
If you play you need to have (or have had) enough guitars to know what guitars you really need.
Really though, air, water. food and arguably a decent place to sleep are things you "need". A guitar, even if it is your only one instrument is a luxury and should be prperly appreciated as such.
Guitars I want:
- a Strat
- a Tele
- a Jazzmaster
- a Tele deluxe (or other humbucker guitar)
- a P90 guitar
- a Bass
- an acoustic
- an acoustic you can take camping.
I think I can stop at those eight.
Guitars I need:
None, if we're being completely honest. It's not a job. It's just a hobby.
Now let's consider fountain pens and watches.
I did that, want one of these one of those. I’m at 18 or so. I still have 7 I added since to get 🤦🏼♂️haha
Yeah, I justified mine for different tones/pickups, artist models, gig versatility and stunt guitars for my whims. Hahaha So many good reasons!
I'd bet Bonamassa has 10 of those molded Strat body guards.😁
Sheraton II with Gibson 57, Strat SS + minihamb little 59.
4 acoustic guitars (3 western, 1 classic).
For studios working that good. All guitars for left handed.
Joe Pass have been 1 guitar… One guitar!??…. Yes! ;)
you can think of it this way: buying fewer guitars allows you to get more pedals.
I hear yah @Rhett Shull. I’ve played guitar and sucked at it for 30 years. I’ve put a pause at it and I really recommend Bitwig as a DAW. It tickles my interest. It will be awesome for controlling and enhancing your synths
In my case I have 10, I NEED 8. What I need is an SSS, an HH, an acoustic with a preamp, and a bass - all that x2 cause I need backups for gigs, which makes it 8. I also have a classical guitar that was my first ever guitar and a super cheap crappy acoustic I borrowed from and a firend and she doesn't want it back so these are the 2 I don't need.
I've seen those 'body guards' foam rubber melt the nitro finish off an old guitar and then you had to chip it away from the guitar. Do NOT apply to anything with a nitro finish.
I was looking at real estate in Park City Utah the other day. If someone can justify spending $50 million on a "ski cabin", then buy as many guitars as you want. It's o.k.
I always think of the clutch purses and putters. It's okay to have guitars.
Body guard famous for damaging nitro finishes. Check out the gold strat at Truevintage for example.
“I’m not a collector”, says Rhett with ‘20 something’ guitars. Some would call this ‘being in denial’.
I don’t think that’s a ladder per say, very likely there was another piece that would’ve created like a staircase ladder. And your buddy was right that was for dolls and our plants and what not that is not a ledge for children to play, the tines of the railing are spaced much too far apart….i describe my illness as “P.A.S” , or Pedal Acquisition Syndrome, i’m a professional bass player, but I started playing guitar again last year bought a telecaster and thanks to guys like you two, I can’t stop buying pedals for it, I have three overdrives three flanges, three phases overdrive preamp Evantide H9 compression and probably four delays at least including a vintage Ibanez AD 80… in fact, yesterday I just had to have an 80s era Japanese made Boss super overdrive, please help.
Zach is becoming five watt world
This is such a stupid question. Depends on the individual. Do you play classical? Do you play, rock,metal,country, jazz, blues? Do you play ALL those genre's?
You need one really good telecaster. That's it.
Honestly i have can oive with 1 electric and 1 acoustic. I go crazy with pedals but i find guitars just sit there if i have a few. I currently have 2 electrics - greysch white falcon, and strandberg salen. Only the salen gets used at the moment
I think if you play at all outside your bedroom in public, one can argue that you need 2 guitars at the absolute lowest level. Obviously this might not be realistic for some people financially but if you have the means I would say it’s ideal to have 2. If something goes wrong you at least have a backup ready to go
Commented this at the beginning of the video before seeing that Zach made the same point 😂
My brain says one, my heart says infinity.
The fewer guitars you have the better you get at playing each one.
I'm sitting at 19 right now but I'm eyeing up a Sire M7 base so that might change to 20 in the next few weeks.
One guitar guy? That would be Willie Nelson.
The number of guitars you need = N+1, where N is equal to the number of guitars you currently own.
Dont forget to loop it!
Playing and finding the “sweet spots” on different guitars is like taming wild horses. Humanity has been doing such things forever.
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You should do how many amps do you really need..I have way too many amps
I have 7 electrics I use 3, wanting to get down to 4...which is the common amount of different tunings I'm using.
thanks for timestamps : )
The moral of this entire discussion, is who cares what anyone else chooses to spend their money on. It may seem stupid to a whole lot of people, but if it’s not stupid to them, then it’s not stupid.
Are you guys going to do a live react to the Jeff Beck Collection auction?
N+1=more than I have now 😊
Rig dip King Crimson vibes
Just one more....well gotta go Friday to Sweetwater and get my Amplified Nation head and cab so just one more amp now😂
Did they just start carrying that brand? I was looking at tube amps the other day and noticed they had a lot of them. I’ve never heard of them, but they must be pretty good?
@georgespencer3973 yes about 9 months aga.
LP, strat, tele, acoustic 🤓 until you get bored and need P90s, a super strat, and so on :)