What a magnificent piece of engineering art! Words can not express my admiration to this vehicle . It's almost as if the designing crew were out of this world .
Fantastic vehicle by the looks. I'm still pretty disappointed that they still don't have a powered beer fridge in them!! C'Mon Thales, sort this out will ya!
They suppose to build ambulance hospitals bed we are short of those item and people die for no get an ambulance at home not before two hours people die in emergency room for shortage of staff and shortage of bed pm send money overseas to other country and neglect his own people luck we have the elections next month to vote the crook one out
Although needing to tow a trailer just so you can have a spare tyre kind of puts a downer on the 'high levels of mobility' component of its design brief!
Had to watch this with the sound off because the kids were watching The Voice. So I missed a lot of the details but I was struck by the loving shots of the wheels with the Bazillion lock nuts. A bit like a boy racers ride to impress the girls. If I were a Grunt in the field and I had to change a wheel I'd be saying "FFS if only it were held on by a clip you could flick with your thumb". So, common ground in between maybe.
To Thales. I'm just wondering does the Hawakei and the Bushmaster come with Euro 6 complaint engines as the Australian mandate overlaps the production of these vehicles and is Thales trying to get additional orders of Bushmaster form the Australian Government along with additional governments? Being Euro 6 complaint may give you the advantage.
You have to be able to close those doors with one hand, inside there are people with vests, chargers and weapons, they need space, the driving position has to be super simple, to drive with one finger if necessary, quick and easy entrances and exits.
From an occupant protection point of view, and the CROWS remote .50 cal system aside, is there a provision for fitting a light ballistic protected slewing turret for the roof mounted machine gun, to protect any gunner using the manual gun ring mount, like those fitted to the up armoured HMMWV in US Army service? I'd hate to see our roof gunners vulnerable while returning fire with the vehicle mounted gun. It would kind of defeat the purpose of having all that protection if the defensive weapon was left unprotected. Kind regards.
problem: Hawkei does NOT have anywhere for a spare wheel in it's design (required on australian roads) - Thales' solution: tow a trailer carrying the spare wheel EVERYWHERE... I dont understand how subs got canned when this gets through.
Common misconception, there is absolutely no legislation mandating a vehicle carry a spare tyre, either C Class or heavy Vehicle. I did a bunch of research on the topic and ended up empty handed. Defence usually mandates vehicles carry a spare tyre as they are part of the CES of the vehicle, however as the Hawkei does not come with a spare tyre this is not the case. If this seeminly doesn't make sense, I'd also like you to consider the fact that between the tyres all being run flats and there being an onboard tyre inflation system, the Hawkei is capable of safely maintaining speeds of up to 80km/h with a 2cm gash in one tyre. Silly oversight, but not nearly as crippling as it would first seem. Still, they are experimenting with vehicle mounted spare tyres as it should have been a capability early on
@@dracarysblackfyre6030 interesting. So why are required to take trailers on public roads? I agree that with CTIS we shouldn't need a spare 99% of the time
@@forestR1 They aren't. It may be dictated in Standing Orders, but there is no legal requirement, civilian or under the DRTM's to carry the trailer or the spare tyre. there is a RODUM to have access to a spare on difficult terrain, but again, the spare does not need to be with the vehicle, simply carried by another vehicle that is accessible
Spare is not required for a roadworthy in any state in Australia the Hawkei also has run flats and a tyre inflator i'm sure if it becomes a problem they will design a rear wheel swing carrier for it at some point
make sure all of em come with the latest songs on like WA Radio because WA has the best radio content I swear to god. (^ Like a little playlist / CD of songs maybe even a couple classics.
@@slipperygypsy1366 As have I, and they've improved greatly in the 6 months I've been driving them. Some of the issues have been solved, others are still being worked on. Biggest issue is that as they are brand new and covered by factory warranty, all maintenance is done by Civilian contractors, however RAEME will be taking up that mantle in the coming years
Serious Question. How does it fair against Javlin or NLAW based missle types with top down attack? I understand there is plenty of underneath protection from IED blasts but if the Russia/Ukraine war has taught us anything its that any vehicle can be stopped pretty quickly with a top down firing missile. Should be ok against the old RPK-7.
Not great; any kind of missile attack will destroy it, that's par for the course with anything less armoured than a modern IFV. RPG will go through it, as it would any car.
Having sat in one last week, anyone over 6ft and 95+ kg is going to have real troubles driving or riding shotgun. That was clean skin too. Add body armour, load carriage equipment and weapons, its going to be a very cramped cabin. Don't forget the trailer that has to go with it too.
hello Thales, I'm admin of the modelkitindo channel, I ask permission to hanging this video on my channel as a teaser, and I will enclose your channel name on the video and link in description ... thank you
These technologies have been around for years if anything they are behind the game for a long time also would like to know what percentage of this vehicle is australian
No, the outer ring of nuts is to remove the tyre from the rim, as it is bolted on due to being a run flat, you only need to undo the inner 8 nuts to change the tyre
Great vehicle. I hope France's Army decides to purchase these rather than the Arquus Scarabe, cool looking but feels like a gadget and not practical for combat. (ie 2 doors, modularity, etc...) Although hybrid motorization is an intresting feature (low noise, unstable petrol prices etc...)
@Jaques Demolay This vehicle is designed and built by Thales Australia. Thales France and Thales Australia are run separately as the requirements of our market and our military needs are different. At the end of the day its still Thales and Thales as a whole is an excellent company.
What a good sales pitch. It'll be good if the brakes actually works so the soldiers won't have to stroll around at 40km/hr speed. Usain Bolt can run faster than that.
@@brandstyle3639 You seem to be very opposed to Australian Military Capabillity. Given the current global climate and Chinese aggression in the pacific region I think it's a sensible investment to be prepared for conflict. Australia has a nasty habbit of entering wars woefully unprepared, nice to see us building up our force beforehand for once
@@brandstyle3639 Given Taiwan has madde it pretty clear they'd like to maintain their Sovereignty from China, I'd say we're less "Interfering with anothers country" and more offering to aid our regional allies in case of invasion
Thales…… this is the company which successfully lobbied the former LNP government to prevent the publication of a report by the National Audit Office which was highly critical of the cost overruns, suitability and capability of armoured vehicles ordered by the ADF. Thales….. yeah, No!!!
Armour? watch the footage closely, you can see straight through the slits in the door, I would call it a very expensive off road vehicle not suitable for military use.
oh and there is no room for spare tyre so it had to be towed around in a trailer behind. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣it's almost feels like Thales engineers came in to work drunk or they just had a brain fart.🤣🤣🤣
I _love_ this vehicle. ...But ... It doesn't have anywhere to put a spare tire. So it has to pull a trailer just so it can carry around a spare tire.😂😂😂
may I ask why? Whilst the Hawkei hasn't yet (And may never) see the successes of it's big brother, it is shaping up to be a capable vehicle, with every generation improving on the faults of the last
malcolm caden they didn’t mention this in the video so I assumed they it wasn’t... that’s sort of important... I know the entire USA power grid is unprotected from EMP attacks and that this is on purpose because the Rothschild family owns most if not all of the utilities in the US... They own PG&E in California which has been suspiciously cutting power BEFORE wild fires as if they somehow know the fires are coming a week in advance..... this is of course because THEY DO.... they use weather modification and directed energy weapons to start these insane unexplainable fires and the ultimate goal is to roast all of northern Cali as well as all the areas where they plan to lay the future magnetic railway system. So far they’re doing a wonderful job of it and hardly anyone sees how blatantly obvious it is that these fires are being set and amplified by unnatural means.
Unlike the Russian Military, the ADF understands combined arms, and has already utilized many counter-missile and electronic warfare systems. Whilst they are far from impervious, we have a better ability to defend ourselves than the disaster that is the Russian army
Australia need to build more ambulance and hospitals bed people die at home waiting two hour for an ambulance people die in the emergency room for shortage of staff to assisting heart attack patient let them waiting 5 hours at 4 hours there are dead Pm send money good overseas neglect his own people need Elections next month we will have new PM
I was in a motorcycle accident on a country dirt road in between to rural cities, ambulance arrived within 20mins of being called, equipment was up to date and well maintained. Maybe there have been issues with funding for hospital, but I'd imagine it is more of an issue at state level. As for staff shortages, that is due to toxic work environments and education not keeping up with demand
Dracarys Blackfyre this the reasons ambulance are in stand by outside emergency to pick up only people who have road accident Neglect the one at home who gave heart attack I’m not insulting you I’m just talk in general few people in Victoria QLD have died at home waiting 2 hours for ambulance
@@brandstyle3639 Thanks for highlighting this for me, I was unaware of the cases. Whilst it seems that the average wait time is actually quite low (10.5mins for QLD) there have been some outliers where patients have had to wait up to 10 hours and there have indeed been deaths whilst waiting for hospital beds. It may be that those who have had to wait are in extremely rural areas, and may have had issues contacting the right emergency services, but it is certainly a severe issue. Coming up to election time it's another thing for me to consider, so thanks!
haha anything can fit under a helicopter if you hover high enough. Success story? calm down bit early yet, even the aussies ar'nt using them in big numbers yet so what would/could you be basing that claim on, the brochure? That's like saying the A400 or NH90 is a success story....
@Chris Peters Since you believe literally everything I say by the looks guess you believe everything this guy says as well? Yet still not sorted, but it's a success story?? You must be so confused right now huh?
What a magnificent piece of engineering art! Words can not express my admiration to this vehicle . It's almost as if the designing crew were out of this world .
Fantastic vehicle by the looks. I'm still pretty disappointed that they still don't have a powered beer fridge in them!! C'Mon Thales, sort this out will ya!
Asking the real questions.
They have fridge as well bed and showers and kettle for a cup mate
Classified extra.
That's the french for ya
@@RYNUS-vc9cw no ya / vous or toi or tu or te
Unusually good looking well designed visually , and as they say if it looks right it normally is .
I do not see what the use of them in Ukraine war
Ukraine need missile drone air craft bomb not truck
Aboriginal colour
@@brandstyle3639 So that would be the colour of alcohol .
This is the most beautiful car in the world!
Bushmaster called
Army tank
Such Australian military vehicles are very much needed in the war in Ukraine! They save lives ...
Good on you Thales for making top notch products for protecting our troops.
Maybe an open top Hawkei for the SAS :-)
Saw them up close yesterday amazing tech
Where in films
Can I get one on the civilian market? They look amazing!!
Australian s can manufacture good machines when we want to.
Good on you !
Thales is a french company
World class🇭🇲
Australian made and designed .🇭🇲
French parent company, totally Aussie designed and made……fkn stupid comment
They suppose to build ambulance hospitals bed we are short of those item and people die for no get an ambulance at home not before two hours people die in emergency room for shortage of staff and shortage of bed pm send money overseas to other country and neglect his own people luck we have the elections next month to vote the crook one out
I believed it was named after a snake, which in turn was named after Bob Hawke! (Legendary Oz PM)
Why is the steering wheel on the left when it is built for the Australian Army?
Although needing to tow a trailer just so you can have a spare tyre kind of puts a downer on the 'high levels of mobility' component of its design brief!
I am a filipino and ill be joining australian military in the future.
Why Australia no need military we got 500 women soldiers at the moment
Had to watch this with the sound off because the kids were watching The Voice.
So I missed a lot of the details but I was struck by the loving shots of the wheels with the Bazillion lock nuts. A bit like a boy racers ride to impress the girls.
If I were a Grunt in the field and I had to change a wheel I'd be saying "FFS if only it were held on by a clip you could flick with your thumb". So, common ground in between maybe.
To Thales. I'm just wondering does the Hawakei and the Bushmaster come with Euro 6 complaint engines as the Australian mandate overlaps the production of these vehicles and is Thales trying to get additional orders of Bushmaster form the Australian Government along with additional governments? Being Euro 6 complaint may give you the advantage.
Christ, even posh gits say "Straya". Love it.
You have to be able to close those doors with one hand, inside there are people with vests, chargers and weapons, they need space, the driving position has to be super simple, to drive with one finger if necessary, quick and easy entrances and exits.
From an occupant protection point of view, and the CROWS remote .50 cal system aside, is there a provision for fitting a light ballistic protected slewing turret for the roof mounted machine gun, to protect any gunner using the manual gun ring mount, like those fitted to the up armoured HMMWV in US Army service? I'd hate to see our roof gunners vulnerable while returning fire with the vehicle mounted gun. It would kind of defeat the purpose of having all that protection if the defensive weapon was left unprotected. Kind regards.
They will sort that out , us Ozzies like to look after our men as well as yours :)
this was published on my b'day ;). land 121, 1,100 of these beast's.
problem: Hawkei does NOT have anywhere for a spare wheel in it's design (required on australian roads) - Thales' solution: tow a trailer carrying the spare wheel EVERYWHERE... I dont understand how subs got canned when this gets through.
Common misconception, there is absolutely no legislation mandating a vehicle carry a spare tyre, either C Class or heavy Vehicle. I did a bunch of research on the topic and ended up empty handed. Defence usually mandates vehicles carry a spare tyre as they are part of the CES of the vehicle, however as the Hawkei does not come with a spare tyre this is not the case.
If this seeminly doesn't make sense, I'd also like you to consider the fact that between the tyres all being run flats and there being an onboard tyre inflation system, the Hawkei is capable of safely maintaining speeds of up to 80km/h with a 2cm gash in one tyre.
Silly oversight, but not nearly as crippling as it would first seem. Still, they are experimenting with vehicle mounted spare tyres as it should have been a capability early on
@@dracarysblackfyre6030 interesting. So why are required to take trailers on public roads? I agree that with CTIS we shouldn't need a spare 99% of the time
@@forestR1 They aren't. It may be dictated in Standing Orders, but there is no legal requirement, civilian or under the DRTM's to carry the trailer or the spare tyre. there is a RODUM to have access to a spare on difficult terrain, but again, the spare does not need to be with the vehicle, simply carried by another vehicle that is accessible
Spare is not required for a roadworthy in any state in Australia the Hawkei also has run flats and a tyre inflator i'm sure if it becomes a problem they will design a rear wheel swing carrier for it at some point
The new bushmasters have ditched the spare wheel as well so there goes that theory, or are they getting trailers as well? 🤦♂️
It looks beautiful
Looks very capable!!
make sure all of em come with the latest songs on like WA Radio because WA has the best radio content I swear to god. (^ Like a little playlist / CD of songs maybe even a couple classics.
Great salesman, reliability sorted yet...
reliability is shit the serviceability is non existent
@A Perpetual Guardsman with a flashlight you’d have to design the entire thing again to fix it mate has driven them in the Australian army
@@slipperygypsy1366 As have I, and they've improved greatly in the 6 months I've been driving them. Some of the issues have been solved, others are still being worked on. Biggest issue is that as they are brand new and covered by factory warranty, all maintenance is done by Civilian contractors, however RAEME will be taking up that mantle in the coming years
Very useful vehicle.
Serious Question. How does it fair against Javlin or NLAW based missle types with top down attack? I understand there is plenty of underneath protection from IED blasts but if the Russia/Ukraine war has taught us anything its that any vehicle can be stopped pretty quickly with a top down firing missile. Should be ok against the old RPK-7.
Not great; any kind of missile attack will destroy it, that's par for the course with anything less armoured than a modern IFV. RPG will go through it, as it would any car.
It can’t even fair against a flat tyre…
Looking forward great 👍 truck
You think Ukraine win the sr with those ? They do not fly
Ukraine need air jet air weapons
Heavy staff missile bomb ,drone, javelin
As an Aussie my blood boils a little more for every passing month that we don't send 90 of these to Ukraine for their front lines.
Having sat in one last week, anyone over 6ft and 95+ kg is going to have real troubles driving or riding shotgun. That was clean skin too. Add body armour, load carriage equipment and weapons, its going to be a very cramped cabin.
Don't forget the trailer that has to go with it too.
The Americans have Humvees, we have Hawkeis 🇦🇺
hello Thales, I'm admin of the modelkitindo channel, I ask permission to hanging this video on my channel as a teaser, and I will enclose your channel name on the video and link in description ... thank you
A left hand drive Aussie made vehicle ?
Thank god is starting to manufacture military vehicles and small arms, next we need to make our own missles
No mention of the ongoing chassis cracking issues that plague the design, its been a constant problem.
These technologies have been around for years if anything they are behind the game for a long time also would like to know what percentage of this vehicle is australian
what was the other one ?
Midnight Oil ?
If this is an Australian vehicle, why is the steering wheel on the left side and not the right?
They were showcasing the export variant, the Aussie version is right-hand drive.
BTW Thalès is a French company
In a Vehicle like this you get to choose which side of the road you drive on - And everyone else has to follow suit!
Tsubadai Khan they call bush master made to be driven on bush not on road
Impressive!
Waiting for commercial model...
Doubting Thomas there will be no commercial model Australian government put stop to it already
1:51 are you telling me the motorpool boys have to undo 25 nuts to change one tyre? Fucking hell.
No, the outer ring of nuts is to remove the tyre from the rim, as it is bolted on due to being a run flat, you only need to undo the inner 8 nuts to change the tyre
How can I buy one?
Great vehicle. I hope France's Army decides to purchase these rather than the Arquus Scarabe, cool looking but feels like a gadget and not practical for combat. (ie 2 doors, modularity, etc...) Although hybrid motorization is an intresting feature (low noise, unstable petrol prices etc...)
We could just trade weapons we need them the bushmaster is a good armoured vehicle to
The French have backed out on the deal. Apparently they now want a nuclear powered version.
I wish i had shares in the war and munitions industry!
How many cup holders?
I bet it can't compete with the number of cup holders in a Hilux? 🤔
It not a caravan
Love it!!!!
Be really good if we can start selling them the mass employment opportunities
Do you guys sell to the civilians? I would love to own one.
Wait till war over Ukrainian will sell them half price
pricetag of about 660,00 AUD, and would need to modify the chasis to remove armour, so I wouldn't hold your breath
Why aren’t these out yet? Does Thales have problems with the vehicle? Something’s going wrong?
Theres heaps of problems. They're supposed to be rolling out this year but the same was said for the last 3 years
In all honesty, I'd like to see it tested on some real challenging tracks
So a EMP will stop it in its tracks or am I wrong.
Bullet proof glass?
Yes yes there are war truck not for shopping
a 7 tonne light weight off road vehicle?
Light,,,,?
How can a chopper lift it?
Make a civilian version? 😍
Named after PM Hawke ?
Or his son, Steven ?
bipola telly a type of death adder
@@robman2095 named after a snake named for the Pm
2:21 into the footage - no armor in door, see how quick they edit and pull down my post,
Didnt it have a brake problem?
They have no breaks to stop must hit a rock
Issue was with the handbrake and was rectified last year
France is really a great friend, they produice very impressive thing for australia
This is Thales Australia not Thales France
@Jaques Demolay This vehicle is designed and built by Thales Australia. Thales France and Thales Australia are run separately as the requirements of our market and our military needs are different.
At the end of the day its still Thales and Thales as a whole is an excellent company.
@@charliifischer4916 Bit like saying a 1970 Holden Kingswood is American because General Motors was Holdens parent Company
@@charliifischer4916 en fin de compte C’est Français car c’est Thales
jeeze, my patrol with all its shit on it, is 3 tonne, 7 tonne is actually impressive.
Where the spare tyre?
Funny story about that..
A lightweight 7 tonne vehicle...
Compared the the 11.4t Bushmaster, yeah. Nothing Defence operates is lightweight
I want one
🥰🤝✊👍👍👍👍👍
The steering wheel is on the left.
Opf
yeh, but it’s really a plasan vehicle, not thales -
Cool even BJ approves of Hawkeye
What a good sales pitch. It'll be good if the brakes actually works so the soldiers won't have to stroll around at 40km/hr speed. Usain Bolt can run faster than that.
mate atleast put fuckin a mounted M249 SAW on this thing and Rocket Mortar Protection (The Small things that blow up RPG's before they can get to ya).
The answer to a question that nobody asked.
Where the ammunition goes and how they get shot
@@brandstyle3639 You seem to be very opposed to Australian Military Capabillity. Given the current global climate and Chinese aggression in the pacific region I think it's a sensible investment to be prepared for conflict. Australia has a nasty habbit of entering wars woefully unprepared, nice to see us building up our force beforehand for once
Dracarys Blackfyre Australia provoke war instead of mind they own business and not interfere with others country
Such Taiwan
@@brandstyle3639 Given Taiwan has madde it pretty clear they'd like to maintain their Sovereignty from China, I'd say we're less "Interfering with anothers country" and more offering to aid our regional allies in case of invasion
Seriously we can't afford this one and the other one
I say shut up, I want to hear more about this car
At $1.1 million per car it better be good.
2.5 Millions each Aussie said
Allen Alda would be proud
Thales…… this is the company which successfully lobbied the former LNP government to prevent the publication of a report by the National Audit Office which was highly critical of the cost overruns, suitability and capability of armoured vehicles ordered by the ADF.
Thales….. yeah, No!!!
Armour? watch the footage closely, you can see straight through the slits in the door, I would call it a very expensive off road vehicle not suitable for military use.
Euro Aussie truck armory
Claiming "success story" 6 years ago was alittle premature on reflection 🤷♂️
This hasn’t aged well
Why not?
There are rusty free
Ex Holden dealer salesman
Just don't sell it to our enemies.
Money talks
oh and there is no room for spare tyre so it had to be towed around in a trailer behind. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣it's almost feels like Thales engineers came in to work drunk or they just had a brain fart.🤣🤣🤣
I _love_ this vehicle.
...But ...
It doesn't have anywhere to put a spare tire. So it has to pull a trailer just so it can carry around a spare tire.😂😂😂
SHOULD NAME IT ARGY BARGY.
This is by far the biggest failure by procurements in adf history
may I ask why? Whilst the Hawkei hasn't yet (And may never) see the successes of it's big brother, it is shaping up to be a capable vehicle, with every generation improving on the faults of the last
Mate, one word, MRH90s.
How Australian is it, steering wheel is on the wrong side🤣
One good EMP CANNON blast and all that fancy electronic crap goes bye bye
malcolm caden they didn’t mention this in the video so I assumed they it wasn’t... that’s sort of important... I know the entire USA power grid is unprotected from EMP attacks and that this is on purpose because the Rothschild family owns most if not all of the utilities in the US... They own PG&E in California which has been suspiciously cutting power BEFORE wild fires as if they somehow know the fires are coming a week in advance..... this is of course because THEY DO.... they use weather modification and directed energy weapons to start these insane unexplainable fires and the ultimate goal is to roast all of northern Cali as well as all the areas where they plan to lay the future magnetic railway system. So far they’re doing a wonderful job of it and hardly anyone sees how blatantly obvious it is that these fires are being set and amplified by unnatural means.
weaponized EMP is science fiction. seriously; video games and movies.
And as we can see by what's going on in the Ukraine , one missile and its gone .
Unlike the Russian Military, the ADF understands combined arms, and has already utilized many counter-missile and electronic warfare systems. Whilst they are far from impervious, we have a better ability to defend ourselves than the disaster that is the Russian army
Kill the zombie music before it kills the troops.
Australia need to build more ambulance and hospitals bed people die at home waiting two hour for an ambulance people die in the emergency room for shortage of staff to assisting heart attack patient let them waiting 5 hours at 4 hours there are dead
Pm send money good overseas neglect his own people need
Elections next month we will have new PM
I was in a motorcycle accident on a country dirt road in between to rural cities, ambulance arrived within 20mins of being called, equipment was up to date and well maintained. Maybe there have been issues with funding for hospital, but I'd imagine it is more of an issue at state level. As for staff shortages, that is due to toxic work environments and education not keeping up with demand
Dracarys Blackfyre this the reasons ambulance are in stand by outside emergency to pick up only people who have road accident
Neglect the one at home who gave heart attack
I’m not insulting you I’m just talk in general few people in Victoria QLD have died at home waiting 2 hours for ambulance
@@brandstyle3639 Thanks for highlighting this for me, I was unaware of the cases. Whilst it seems that the average wait time is actually quite low (10.5mins for QLD) there have been some outliers where patients have had to wait up to 10 hours and there have indeed been deaths whilst waiting for hospital beds.
It may be that those who have had to wait are in extremely rural areas, and may have had issues contacting the right emergency services, but it is certainly a severe issue. Coming up to election time it's another thing for me to consider, so thanks!
I hear the engine is underpowered and tempramental.
How is this Australian, it's wrong hand drive.
its just not though i have mates in the army who operate these they are terrible
You talk a lot and don't show the vehicle.
haha anything can fit under a helicopter if you hover high enough. Success story? calm down bit early yet, even the aussies ar'nt using them in big numbers yet so what would/could you be basing that claim on, the brochure? That's like saying the A400 or NH90 is a success story....
What helicopter you are talking about? Not any helicopter can carry any vehicle, have you served in the army? It doesn't sound like it.
Reg regan The weight determines if a helicopter can lift it, not the height of the helicopter
@@rodnymh I have served in the army, and air force, 15 years, even done underslung loads so I do understand the concept somewhat, now what?
@@robman2095 oh really, wow...
@Chris Peters Since you believe literally everything I say by the looks guess you believe everything this guy says as well? Yet still not sorted, but it's a success story?? You must be so confused right now huh?