My dreams came true! Trek really went full enduro with the new Roscoes, and I love it! They listened to the community and made the necessary improvements. Very slack geo, and finally thru axle!
Yeah, it seems as though they listen to all the criticism that was out there. Every upgrade that's in this bike I've seen is comments in my previous videos. Cool to see them doing something about it
I preordered the 9 yesterday at Trek. I was told I was number 2 in the United States to order the 9. First to order it in a Large. I am STOKED!!!!! One thing you didn’t cover was the fact that the eThirteen crank arms on the large are 170. That’s a huge plus to me. All my other bikes are 175.
@@caseymcculloch5027 , by 2023 there will be an actual 2023 Roscoe released. I went to an actual Trek Dealer versus a Trek authorized dealer also. I would also be pretty upset if it’s more than a year wait on a bike they are selling and advertising. Can you sell something that isn’t actually available in any quantity? Isn’t that false advertising? You may be right but I pray you’re wrong. I paid for the bike in full as well. I just can’t see Trek not putting out at least a few thousand bikes this year. That would be really poor brand representation. Fingers crossed.
I have the 2021 Roscoe 6 and have UPGRADED EVERY component.. My FINAL upgrade was just finished and I’m now running SRAM GX AXS with SRAM Reverb AXS (Bike COMPLETED).. Love MY Roscoe 6.. Great Review…. 🇺🇸
I don’t think you are wrong in regards to the Roscoe 6. It’s a good bike to get you started. However I think people will praise the new Roscoe (7-9) and it will get great reviews. People getting started might buy a 6 based on those reviews and think that it’s the “same” bike with lower specs.
So relieved i did not make a mistake jumping the gun on a 6. It will be my first MTB being a roadie. Will use it as robust bikepacking rig with upgraded forks.
I just got lucky and got the 2023 Roscoe 8 today. I believe it's literally the only one in South Florida. It's the blue one and its gorgeous. I can confirm it comes tubeless with selent. This weekend is going to be fun! I ca
I love my 2020 Roscoe 8, the only thing I wish it had is a boost 148 thru-axle. I did swap the stock bar/stem to Race Face Affect 35's in 780mm wide and 40mm, made a huge difference in the handling. I will continue to gradually upgrade parts as needed. Kinda wish I could buy this new improved iteration....especially the 9
One nice thing about your reviews was you showing the bike. There's enough people on UA-cam browsing websites already and calling it "reviews". Please JTBG! get us teh bike!
James actually only does a detailed overview. He doesn't put the bike through it's paces by riding the shit out of them, so his videos arent reviews either.
@@jdemonto it's badly priced £700 tho, which is $949, its a shame cuz otherwise I'd order one, but when new nukeproof scout frames can be found at £400 it's not worth it in the Uk
People should have bought the Stache and it would be still around. Unfortunately the market spoke and 29+ is dead, as very few people took it up with any manufacturer's bikes.
I don’t really understand all the lingo but I’m 6f2” with a 34 inside leg what size would I need as you say in video that the new 2022 are now a bit longer. Does that mean a XL would be to big 🤷🏼♂️ sorry I’m still doing my homework. 😁
The lingo means they've made the bike more capable and stable on rougher terrain. You do still ride the same size bike even with the changes, so a XL would be correct
Of all the riders who bought a 2020 and 2021 Roscoe. Didn't matter what model. Replaced either the wheel set or had someone re-lace the wheels with new hubs. Everyone either used Novotech or Shimano MT400. Then. the bike became a different creature. Trek using Formula hubs should be ashamed of themselves.
@@Jamesthebikeguy Not at all for a company that makes great bikes in the past. Using formula hubs in the past on a Roscoe seems like saving pennies to spend dollars later. I can honestly say after trying out the 2022 Roscoe 7. It is a GREAT bike hands down for 2k Canadian. Thru axle front and rear. MT500 and MT400 hubs. Bontrager wheels. Deore 12 speed. What is not to like on that bike....
I had a 2020 Roscoe 7 Dropped a lyric on it slacked then HA to 65 and put on 4 pot brakes It was cool but I got a 2020 Ragley Marley frame and never looked back lol Trek is over priced for the bike Look at Ragley or scout
I don't know, this is a real competitor to the scout. The shorter chainstays will make it a bit more playful and the pricing is very close to the scout lineup. Never ridden either bike though so I couldn't say for sure. I've heard nothing but good things about Ragleys
That's a great thought in theory. But it's not quite as easy as I think you may imagine. The world is a supply chain now, and without intercontinental trade at some level most things could not be built.
@@Jamesthebikeguy, we built everything they are using to make our stuff. This country just wanted less industry. Clean air and all. And another cudgel to use to tax us into the dirt. We did fine making our own stuff for quite along time.
@@dominicwalker9947 You're welcome to guy buy a made in America frame. It will cost you as much as the entire Roscoe 7, alone. Oh, and a Made in America drive train? Double that. Paul Klamper brakes? $700 for a set. Good luck on wheels, you're going boutique prices there. Better put in your order soon as most US frame builders are on about a 2 year backorder due to demand. You have zero idea what you're asking for. Manufacturing is never coming back to the pre-Nixon normalization levels. And, Americans can't afford it if we tried. Good luck getting min wage set to the ~$70/hour it would take to cover a 400% increase in living expenses.
@@cjohnson3836, Yes i am well aware of the present state of expense of American manufacturing. Much would need to change. But the alternitive is not having anything due to supply breakdowns. Like what we are about to face. I bet when shit gets as bad as it did in depression. People will change their tune. We are about to pay dearly for our leaders shortsightedness. Do you think the current state of affairs is on accident? No, it was directed and planned. "Problem, Reaction, Soluction my dude. " I think if we don't make moves on our own. We will be at our leaders mercy, and look at their track record. Everything they touch turns to shit.
@@dominicwalker9947 Sure, if you want to nationalize manufacturing and institute universal incomes. Because that's the only way its happening. Good luck convincing the right wing nut jobs of that. But if they want to make that trade, I'm all for it.
@@frotto no…. The polygon is heavy and not ment for anything spirited. Quality is lower too. Yes stuff is over priced but I would never compare a Polygon to a Trek.
Haha, guess I shouldn't ride bike branded that I review to eh? Also didn't I make it clear and obvious I was excited and drinking the Trek cool-aid in the very first minute of the video? Did I tell you to buy anything or use a link in my description. Ahh shoot, no I didn't. Seems like I need to step up my game for Trek, the company that doesn't even know I exist! Move along.
@@Jamesthebikeguy you did make it clear. Your sensitivity and poor ability to take feedback doesn’t bode well for making money at this business long-term.
I appreciate the unsolicited advice. This isn't a "money" making venture for me. It's sharing geekery and a creative outlet. It's not like anyone is paying me (aside UA-cam's ad share). I promise there are better channels out there for you. I will happily keep underperforming. 😀 Cheers 🥂
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My dreams came true!
Trek really went full enduro with the new Roscoes, and I love it! They listened to the community and made the necessary improvements. Very slack geo, and finally thru axle!
Yeah, it seems as though they listen to all the criticism that was out there. Every upgrade that's in this bike I've seen is comments in my previous videos. Cool to see them doing something about it
Still trail and no enduro, but that’s totally fine
@@Marc28031984 yeah maybe not full enduro, but definitely a step closer
I preordered the 9 yesterday at Trek. I was told I was number 2 in the United States to order the 9. First to order it in a Large. I am STOKED!!!!! One thing you didn’t cover was the fact that the eThirteen crank arms on the large are 170. That’s a huge plus to me. All my other bikes are 175.
My trek dealer said 9 sold out tell 2023 maybe I need to do more research I almost put deposit on 8
@@caseymcculloch5027 , by 2023 there will be an actual 2023 Roscoe released. I went to an actual Trek Dealer versus a Trek authorized dealer also. I would also be pretty upset if it’s more than a year wait on a bike they are selling and advertising. Can you sell something that isn’t actually available in any quantity? Isn’t that false advertising? You may be right but I pray you’re wrong. I paid for the bike in full as well. I just can’t see Trek not putting out at least a few thousand bikes this year. That would be really poor brand representation. Fingers crossed.
Ive got my 9 coming in july here in the uk :D
Finally a Tru axle.... Trek is doing just like Jeep: listening to costumers and taking action.....
Problem is they still dont give hear to customers in the 1500- budget point
Costumers...ha ha😁🤭
@william nguyen the price i suggested 9 months ago may not be relevant now .
Also it was just a ballpark figure
I have the 2021 Roscoe 6 and have UPGRADED EVERY component.. My FINAL upgrade was just finished and I’m now running SRAM GX AXS with SRAM Reverb AXS (Bike COMPLETED).. Love MY Roscoe 6.. Great Review…. 🇺🇸
Nice
Swap frames? Need new wheel set, and a lot of stuff. I’m sorry but you put your money in an outdated frame
Which spec gets your vote? I hear the 7 is the best bang with upgrading the fork when you feel the need.
in Europe the Roscoe 9 is available in red too..!
I don’t think you are wrong in regards to the Roscoe 6. It’s a good bike to get you started. However I think people will praise the new Roscoe (7-9) and it will get great reviews. People getting started might buy a 6 based on those reviews and think that it’s the “same” bike with lower specs.
2021 hasn t yet arrived since I asked in 2020, and already lauching 2022 lol
Just sold my 2021 roscoe 7, cant wait to put in a order for a 2022
So relieved i did not make a mistake jumping the gun on a 6. It will be my first MTB being a roadie. Will use it as robust bikepacking rig with upgraded forks.
You'll enjoy the Roscoe 6 for your bike packing. Be a happy camper!
There is no mount for racks on the Roscoe 7 if I'm not mistaken
@@flylilpyro1 there are! Was a big reason why I went with it.
I just got lucky and got the 2023 Roscoe 8 today. I believe it's literally the only one in South Florida.
It's the blue one and its gorgeous. I can confirm it comes tubeless with selent.
This weekend is going to be fun!
I ca
Hope they engineered some vertical compliance into the rear.
Roscoe 7 best bang with changing the fork out later. Stacks up with Specialized Fuse Comp.
No 4 pots tho
Looks like the new Roscoe is a spiritual replacement to the Stache. I need a frame of one of these or a Fuse, whichever one I come across first.
I really hope they end up selling the Roscoe frame separately
I should have waited to buy my Roscoe
It's like they replaced both the previous Roscoe and the discontinued Stache with one bike!
Pretty much!
I’m looking into making a purchase, but not sure which way to go… 2021 Roscoe 8 or 2022 Roscoe 7??? What do you all recommend?
2022
Nice bikes, definitely a much needed update. Now they need a 27.5+ trail hardtail option!
Good thing they still have the Roscoe 6.
@@Jamesthebikeguy Yes, but that lacks the updates and higher end specs. It still has QR and older geo.
The Roscoe looks awesome. I like the tan/green model. Great video.
That model is 2699 lol lol
I love my 2020 Roscoe 8, the only thing I wish it had is a boost 148 thru-axle. I did swap the stock bar/stem to Race Face Affect 35's in 780mm wide and 40mm, made a huge difference in the handling. I will continue to gradually upgrade parts as needed.
Kinda wish I could buy this new improved iteration....especially the 9
SAME
I hope the x-caliber is tru axle too!
Errr
Mmmmm
No! Starts at procaliber 9.5
Going to try to order one Tuesday.
Fox 36 on a Roscoe!! Gona be a great riding bike!!
Yeah I bet it'll be a killer bike.
One nice thing about your reviews was you showing the bike. There's enough people on UA-cam browsing websites already and calling it "reviews". Please JTBG! get us teh bike!
. I promised the moment one of these is in the flesh and I can touch it I will absolutely do video on it. ( Actually all four models of the Roscoe)
James actually only does a detailed overview. He doesn't put the bike through it's paces by riding the shit out of them, so his videos arent reviews either.
So this one or the canyon stoic?
Spec asside who has better geometry and upgradability?
want to know the same since i am looking for my first bike.
@@JoelCoffeeholic what did you get?
@@dannyturner7967 stoic and trek wasn`t available and i couldnt wait longer. got a comencal meta ht which i still have to install the dropper
What size of this frame is ideal for 5"11?
L will do the trick
@@juansanchez-tr1dq What about 5' 10" barefoot?
That's how tall I am and the L frame was spot on the previous frame. I see the new frame fitting better but I've never been on it.
Love that orange and blue Trek shirt James. Where did you get it? Link please. Thanks.
I've had it a long time I can't imagine they still sell it.
I need to order a frame! I finally have a use for my old rhythm 34
It’s not badly priced at $700
@@jdemonto it's badly priced £700 tho, which is $949, its a shame cuz otherwise I'd order one, but when new nukeproof scout frames can be found at £400 it's not worth it in the Uk
Which model you're gonna review??I hope you review the roscoe 9 because the colour looks so good
Hopefully all of them
@@Jamesthebikeguy sounds good
Kona Honzo geometry - is that you?? :DD
IMO 73 degree seat tube is not steep enough given the slack head angle. They got rid of the boost 141 rear though! Hopefully this marks its death.
Boost 141 will long be with us. It makes a ton of sense to keep using it.
I got the roscoe 8 in matte black olive!
Siiiiiiiiick
It’s beautiful, but too pricey. That Trek brand has it’s own weight in the price.
It might lose a bit of price as it ages, but yeah it's definitely for people who decide that they want a hardtail for full squish price.
It's cheaper AND better spec'd than the Fuse... 🤷
@@DirtNassty AND better geo, of course. But when it comes to price that’s not saying much. Specialized is even pricier.
In fact the Trek Stache is far superior, and in my opinion it was a big mistake for Trek to cancel their production line.
People should have bought the Stache and it would be still around. Unfortunately the market spoke and 29+ is dead, as very few people took it up with any manufacturer's bikes.
@@Jamesthebikeguy The Stache was really ahead of its time, such a killer bike
The 141mm rear hub was a lousy spec
It never should been a 27.5 in the first place...they did not have a "trail" , hardtail 29er. When the supply chain recovers I'll order one.
2024 or so 🙄😂😏
@@gikke007 you ain't wrong.
Big jump in money from Roscoe 6 to 7.
I would love to have any of these bikes. Very nice looking rides. Who do I send my address to?
I don’t really understand all the lingo but I’m 6f2” with a 34 inside leg what size would I need as you say in video that the new 2022 are now a bit longer. Does that mean a XL would be to big 🤷🏼♂️ sorry I’m still doing my homework. 😁
The lingo means they've made the bike more capable and stable on rougher terrain. You do still ride the same size bike even with the changes, so a XL would be correct
@@Jamesthebikeguy thank you 👍🏼
I'm a new rider in north carolina. I put a deposit on a roscoe 6. Did I do ok? Would the 7 be better
Yes... 7 is much much better in everyway
did you say there is no dropper post?
No. All of the 2022 Roscoe bikes come with dropper posts
Of all the riders who bought a 2020 and 2021 Roscoe. Didn't matter what model. Replaced either the wheel set or had someone re-lace the wheels with new hubs. Everyone either used Novotech or Shimano MT400. Then. the bike became a different creature. Trek using Formula hubs should be ashamed of themselves.
Everyone seems like a pretty large overstatement.
Pleas explain this to me as I have a 2020 Roscoe and would love to improve it if it makes that big of a difference
@@Jamesthebikeguy Not at all for a company that makes great bikes in the past. Using formula hubs in the past on a Roscoe seems like saving pennies to spend dollars later. I can honestly say after trying out the 2022 Roscoe 7. It is a GREAT bike hands down for 2k Canadian. Thru axle front and rear. MT500 and MT400 hubs. Bontrager wheels. Deore 12 speed. What is not to like on that bike....
Still waiting on my Roscoe 8 for about 4 months now. Still hasn't arrived.
cancel it and get the new one!
More than likely the bike will come in as a 2022 I bet
@@Jamesthebikeguy I’ve been told this when i ordered it but he’s not 100% sure
Cancel it this is a new animal!
@@jdemonto It probably will be this bike! I ordered it 4 months ago
The weight is?
Who knows, they haven't shipped yet. Will have a weight as soon as I can lay hands on one
I had a 2020 Roscoe 7
Dropped a lyric on it slacked then HA to 65 and put on 4 pot brakes
It was cool but I got a 2020 Ragley Marley frame and never looked back lol
Trek is over priced for the bike
Look at Ragley or scout
I don't know, this is a real competitor to the scout. The shorter chainstays will make it a bit more playful and the pricing is very close to the scout lineup. Never ridden either bike though so I couldn't say for sure. I've heard nothing but good things about Ragleys
I'm waiting for someone to move manufacturing back to US. The writing on the wall is supply chain issues will only get worse.
That's a great thought in theory. But it's not quite as easy as I think you may imagine. The world is a supply chain now, and without intercontinental trade at some level most things could not be built.
@@Jamesthebikeguy, we built everything they are using to make our stuff. This country just wanted less industry. Clean air and all. And another cudgel to use to tax us into the dirt. We did fine making our own stuff for quite along time.
@@dominicwalker9947 You're welcome to guy buy a made in America frame. It will cost you as much as the entire Roscoe 7, alone. Oh, and a Made in America drive train? Double that. Paul Klamper brakes? $700 for a set. Good luck on wheels, you're going boutique prices there. Better put in your order soon as most US frame builders are on about a 2 year backorder due to demand. You have zero idea what you're asking for. Manufacturing is never coming back to the pre-Nixon normalization levels. And, Americans can't afford it if we tried. Good luck getting min wage set to the ~$70/hour it would take to cover a 400% increase in living expenses.
@@cjohnson3836, Yes i am well aware of the present state of expense of American manufacturing. Much would need to change. But the alternitive is not having anything due to supply breakdowns. Like what we are about to face. I bet when shit gets as bad as it did in depression. People will change their tune. We are about to pay dearly for our leaders shortsightedness. Do you think the current state of affairs is on accident? No, it was directed and planned. "Problem, Reaction, Soluction my dude. " I think if we don't make moves on our own. We will be at our leaders mercy, and look at their track record. Everything they touch turns to shit.
@@dominicwalker9947 Sure, if you want to nationalize manufacturing and institute universal incomes. Because that's the only way its happening. Good luck convincing the right wing nut jobs of that. But if they want to make that trade, I'm all for it.
Still too expensive n shitty parts n Roscoe 9 is way too expensive 2699 plus tax no way
better to get a Polygon Xtrada 7 and upgrade
@@frotto i can buy a frame from lot of companies n pult solid bike for 3k this is insane how bike industry is ripping people off
@@frotto no…. The polygon is heavy and not ment for anything spirited. Quality is lower too. Yes stuff is over priced but I would never compare a Polygon to a Trek.
@@shaymtbrider7244can we see your bike you built that’s better and cheaper? Let’s see the receipt too
@@bryanmiller5692 i built my bike is way better . RSD MIDDLE-CHILD built up from frame n cost less then 2 grand n i have carbon rims n pike ultimate
Maybe yet they overpriced it like all treks!
Ha £1950 for a Roscoe 8. Nope...
To much money for what you get
Hmm.
@J S RSD MIDDLECHILD
Now looks like specialized 👹
Simple answer is, hell no
James, sincerely..if you want to seem unbiased you really shouldn’t wear a Trek shirt.
Haha, guess I shouldn't ride bike branded that I review to eh? Also didn't I make it clear and obvious I was excited and drinking the Trek cool-aid in the very first minute of the video? Did I tell you to buy anything or use a link in my description. Ahh shoot, no I didn't. Seems like I need to step up my game for Trek, the company that doesn't even know I exist! Move along.
@@Jamesthebikeguy you did make it clear. Your sensitivity and poor ability to take feedback doesn’t bode well for making money at this business long-term.
I appreciate the unsolicited advice. This isn't a "money" making venture for me. It's sharing geekery and a creative outlet. It's not like anyone is paying me (aside UA-cam's ad share). I promise there are better channels out there for you. I will happily keep underperforming. 😀 Cheers 🥂