@@TrainerClint There really isn't much to report on since its all just hearsay from Reddit. It would be great to debunk Apple's claims of "We pinky promise we're good guys" but relying on a text post on Reddit is pretty shakey.
To be honest I tried going full schizo for a time because I was so engaged with idea of privacy and its REALLY HARD. I dont get why people often laugh at doxxed or darknet people opsec "ohh he got caught the most basic way ever lelelelel". Like its not a matter if you slip up - its a matter when. Internet is a daily part of our life that we do most of it on autopilot and you are bound to make mistakes. I still try to keep myself as private as possible but being 100% private would probably require a team of people working and double checking every single decision and time you do anything on the internet.
"If you aren't paying for the product, you are the product" isn't even true anymore. Even when we do pay for the product, you are the product. I have a $1000+ TV that I don't connect to the Internet, otherwise LG will start collecting all my data. I pay for cell phone service and Verizon still collects as much data as they can. Cars are one of the most expensive things you can buy and even they are collecting your data for the benefit of the manufacturer even though the car cost 10s of thousands of dollars. We're the product regardless of whether we paid or not. This sucks.
Also I stopped using Brave search because it wouldn't show me the results until I let it use my device for "proof of work" first. Bollocks to that. Using DuckDuckGo now.
In the case of cars, I would be willing to accept that the car collects data, if it was for diagnostic purposes in case something goes wrong. Kinda like the flight recorder on a plane. Being able to look at the data and see what you were doing when the car's engine failed, for instance, would be of tremendous help to the mechanic as well as the manufacturer, as the mechanic would be able to fix the car more easily, and the manufacturer could improve their design to make it more robust and safe for the driver. Unfortunately, that's not why cars gather data. They do it because greed.
I was actually pessimistic about being more private bc of the "They've already collected so much data" argument floating in my head, and that "changing the locks" argument makes sense to me. I mean... i have a 10+ Year old Google account and 15Y Microsoft account, so there's a lot of data, but... it makes sense! I can protect myself from other shady people and refuse to give MORE to those companies. After all, we've reached such times where we cannot escape the online world.
Maybe where u live can't, but but there are some parts in the world where u can forget about using tech at all...sadly those kind of places are getting fewer and fewer.
2:37 I don't hate the company who 'sells' the TV in exchange for User Data. Because all other TV companys just sell you a TV for money and sell your Data on top in secrecy. At least that company is honest with it's customers.
@@chibisayori20 you are creating someone that’s not exist so shouldn’t matter unless you violate some OpSec practices. Like transfer the bitcoin you get from the darknet, into your robinhood account which link to your bank account or bragging it with your friend and family
@@chibisayori20 then that info will keep existing, but you don't have to add any new data to it if you only give data into your new identities in the future
It might be "impossible" to be 100% private online, but that doesn't mean you should just give up and give up all your data. The least you can do is make the companies work for your data instead of getting it by default and minimize what you're giving. Not much I can add to what was already said in the video so i'll just ask anyone who bothered to read my comment: Would you want to live in a completely transparent house where everything you do can be seen by everyone else regardless if you like it or not? If not then you should start to care about your privacy online.
It's like saying "Well I can never be 100% healthy, there's always more I could do, and nothing's gonna stop the ageing process anyway. So I may as well just binge eat and never exercise and drink and smoke all I want". Just like with health, if you take just a few basic steps, you can be like 80% private no problem, which is good enough (if you think in terms of grades, it's like an A or a B).
I see privacy as an economic statement. If our data is so valuable, they should be paying us for it, full stop. Making apps free isn't enough. If most users would adopt this policy, it might force the companies' hand into paying us all. Either that, or the big companies will double down and get their cronies to write laws forcing our hand, instead. I'm willing to take that gamble.
You are getting paid in the form of convenient services. It doesn't make practical sense for them to pay you cash just to get nothing-data like "this guy likes when we give him cash for the sake of learning that he likes when we give him cash"
The profit may sound big in collective number (millions billions etc), but when divided by the number of users it becomes mere pittance of several cents/dollars 😂 that most wouldn't bother going through the process to collect 😂
@@MrHjacky why are you factoring in only profits? This ain't no tax season lol. And some of us generate more data than others.This ain't no class action lawsuit either 🤣
@@yomammasaurusrex9571 "Getting paid in the form of convenient services" I bet that boot tastes convenient too lmfao. microsoft products are known for being especially convenient
I think the most important part about internet privacy is also the isolation of service. You can just close UA-cam if you don't use it, or you can just use another web browser to separate it from your other web browser uses, and by using Linux, this becomes incredibly possible to just do that because generally speaking, Linux doesn't track you, and you can do your work without the fear of your privacy.
There are ways to make UA-cam forget who you are: - new browser (mullvad) - on a new OS (parrot linux VM) - connected to a VPN (proton) - under a new account (novel proton email persona) Congrats, you're "new" and they don't know you. The algorithmic weights do not yet exist on your new account. You can now start searching whatever you want that novel persona to be interested in.
@@xCheddarB0b42x I mean yeah you can do that but at that point you may as well just stop watching UA-cam. Part of the selling point of UA-cam is that it can cull down an infinite amount of videos into one's you would actually want to watch. If you are always on a new account UA-cam is a pretty bad website.
actually it's saying "it's like living without clothes" and people can do that, the only issue is other people telling them to dress up or get arrested for indecent exposure
@@yomammasaurusrex9571 You're entirely misconcepted about this. Shame will still exist and will be exploited more than ever before against you, as any info can be held against you.
@Mayhzon you're not thinking big picture enough. With the phasing out of privacy comes a general open mindedness alongside it. Both are required to progress in tandem, as they directly influence one another.
For privacy search engines, there is also french based Qwant. Since it is based in France, it is bound by the EU data law, which is much stricter than just about anywhere outside of EU. Qwant does have ads (for those not using an adblocker) but they are never targeted ads, since they don't collect data from you. You also have to enable a special cookie in settings, in order for Qwant to remember your search history, otherwise it will automatically delete your history upon closure of Qwant. It also have a kid friendly version, which will automatically exclude a lot of content not meant for kids, so they have a much harder time happen upon content they weren't meant to see.
Having my parents say “If you have nothing to hide, why worry?” When it comes to privacy, it’s honestly sad to see that me taking my privacy seriously at all makes me come across as a criminal to them. And no, they’re not old people, infact, I’m still in the education system. I wish it would be possible to care about your own privacy without being seen as a drug dealer or something
I think one of the problems is that people that think that this subject doesn't matter seems to be that same people that don't care about politics. But this is an inherent political conversation
i don't care which party wins as long as they care about everyone individually because only caring about majority and ignoring the minority is not a good way to create the heaven
The most "paranoid" thing I've done for privacy lately is that I made my smartwatch work offline, that means I removed the pair from my device, so it doesn't send data to any application, I delete my account from the application I was forced to download and use to set up the watch and now it is just in on my wrist and shows me calories I burnt and how much I walked but big companies doesn't get that data. But I generally start to go through my phone and delete accounts from apps I don't use anymore and the uninstall them after
I want to confess I was a privacy doomer myself and thought that achieving privacy was impossible, but just like it was said, it's not a binary but a spectrum, and thanks to you I understand this better now. I will try to make a more privacy-friendly presence now. Cheers!
There's this general philosophy which, for me, can be applied to all aspects of life. "It's not about defeating evil. It's about opposing it as much as you can" We can't truly stop it. We can't make it disappear. But this doesn't mean we should just allow it to run free. If we do, it may grow too big and do way too much harm. So we should do what we can to keep it in check. Keep it from growing too much. I believe this works with internet privacy (and other potentially harmful uses of technology such as AI), corruption in the government, greedy corporations, everything.
The fact that ridiculously precise government surveillance is actually real is terrifying. Literally every big tech corp is just spying on all of us all the time... Sometimes I wonder if that 2011 TV series "Person of Interest" is actually real. (Very good show, by the way)
I've often thought about a service or app that pollutes your data stream to big tech. Automatically, in the background sends erroneous logins, garbage searches, fake location data, random interests, etc. If enough people had such a service running it would degrade the data big tech holds to the point that it becomes useless costing them money and reputation. Would this be possible?
"Apple is going the right direction" - because they were forced by GDPR End-to-end encryption is the same deal. And Proton only encrypts email is they're send between Proton users or of a GPG key has been set-up for every contact... I get what youre trying to say, but this is mostly just yapping about privacy.
@@Visquint i dont think there is way for that, they create the system and device and net they can backdoor anything they want even one tool can do the job
Tb be fair, they tried to give away these TVs for $0, and still couldn't even get 1 million units "sold". 500,000 sounds like a lot, but ut actually gives me more faith thatn youd think. Same with tiktok... I dont actually know anyone who uses it. So not everyone is unaware of these issues.
abt the privacy-focused browsers, wasnt duckduckgo caught tracking user data, or atleast something of the like, wouldnt that make ddg untrustable until it dies? genuine question, im not trying to be snarky or whatever.
Hey Eric! This is an awesome video and spoke to me in an unusual way. You see I am in the mindset of constantly freaking out on my data being not in my control. And then getting depressed about it that no matter what I do I won't be private. Because for eg. Microsoft will always find a way to invade it, and I have to do the cat and mouse game to disable (can't wait this new screenshoting feature they will shove into Windows... time to move to linux) What I amt trying to say is that this video gave me a peace of mind that I'm not alone and also my attempts are not futile in protecting my privacy. At 3:59 I felt this relief... the situation didn't get any better but my anxiety level dropped. I need to accept that perfect privacy for a normie does not exist (without sacrificing all) and my brain has to just chill. Keep up the good videos!
Fear and uncertainty pervade the privacy community. Best not to get carried away and remember that most of these corps are filled with falliable people and systems, with a fair share of incompetence scattered in. Most of the fight is just beating or befuddling the dragnet as best you can, that's already equal or better than 95%+ of people. Forget about serious adversaries unless you have a job profile along the lines of major international criminal, you are a number among hundreds of millions, they don't have anything like the manpower or motivation to deep dive on every grain of sand on a beach.
The same people complaining that privacy is impossible are the same people putting their full name, hometown, phone number, all their other social medias in their bios.
To make people more scared from the "Non-private life" Just remember that you dont want someone harassing each time you was online 2 min ago in WhatsApp, It is a privat app after all, You can't give your number to anybody, And the same go for this topic as well.
The problem is the default apps, Chrome gets everything because it comes by default. If both Chrome and Brave were preinstall many people would choose Brave because of privacy. Not half but more than what it is now. (firefox is another story haha)
many people would choose chrome because it is from google and they have some idea what google is, unlike brave which is god knows what. most people don't even come close to knowing about privacy as a concept, they have other things to attend to in their lives.
I personally don’t care about my online privacy as much as I should realistically. I’m just pretty annoyed that even with all this data they have on me they still give me the most dog shit ads 😅
Pessimism/Doomerism is a psychological defense mechanism to make apathy or doing nothing a 200 iq big brain Rick and Morty tier move. The people who say that is is "impossible" to be private online have no real logical justification for the statement because none of them really know how the internet works. I've written webserver backends in nodejs and php, and I've had these kinds of losers lecture me on "how the internet really works." This pessimism comes from feelings of inadequacy when they see other people actually take their data into their own hands when they chose not to. It is pure crab bucket mentality. Besides, most of these people have become addicted to sharing all their personal information online anyways through the use of internet upvotes.
well, it _is_ a black-or-white thing. Look at all the opsec failures in the past. If you spend one hour per day as extra effort to secure your privacy on that day, but ONCE in a lifetime break opsec in one moment, the all the automatic stuff immediately unravels: The one device is connected to the other; the one search profile is correlated to the other. So all you did was hopelessly in vain. Even in numbers: For each year that you conduct opsec for one hour per day, you are effectively dying one month earlier. That is severe certain damage to your life, whereas NSA or KGB or China will want to kill or scrutinize you only _maybe_.
You can't even setup a brand new android device off line because Google is more weird about collecting your data and it's bs and I might just use the brave browser because the Google search engine is completely broken.
yeah. The analogy I make whenever I hear the "just give up" people is the car theft one. The internet is like a street where the content of your car are stolen very frequently but you have to park there. Just because the probability of having things stolen is very high does not mean I'm gonna leave my car open. Will it avoid a theft? No, but it'll make it harder. And that's the best I can do.
Look. If the algorithm had any clue about who I am, it would show me something relevant to my hobbies, lifestyle, or life goals. It's got my data alright, but I've made efforts to feed it vast swaths of false data, rendering the end product non-viable on my end. But I'm paranoid.
The question is, is it worth it? There is also other side to all that tracking. We actually benefit from that, personalised ads are of course to make money, but seeing products that fits our intrests is good also for us. Thanks to that we can find something nice we didnt know existed. Facebook showing us people we might know is also useful. I am not saying we should allow all that tracking, but its not that bad for us. Btw im curious about how it really works with privacy protecting laws, im not sure if its my countrys law or european in general but there is a law that allows me to just go to any company that has my data and ask them to delete it all, and in theory they have to do it. I wonder how would that work in reality, since we hear so often how companies are breaking privacy laws
it depends on the threat model and how far one can go. Can't hold on security, privacy, and usability all at the same time. must sacrifice 1 or 2 in order to preserve the third fully or just try to balance between them. that Apple motto is a joke since they offer icloud. not taking into consideration the recent scandal with the iOS 17.5 bug that shows a shadow copy of the already deleted photos.. if general browsing and light social media snooping without account is what i'm trying to obfuscate then Tails OS on a dvd is a good option..
Just wanted to drop in and say that your videos have gotten excellent lately. Well-researched, level-headed, and much more *empathetic* than a lot of other videos can be. I'm going to be in a position of leadership at a local community focused on open-source and privacy soon, and your videos (and the resources you cite) will definitely be very helpful in collecting data to do presentations and such. Do keep it up!
I want as few companies having my personal information because of hackers stealing info from those companies. If/when the companies get hacked, I don't want my data that they have of me being used to steal my identity/scam my friends. So many examples of stolen info being used nefariously out there. It's a pain to deal with cleaning up the mess when it happens.
Me being a doomer really helped me focus on what I do online, tbh. Do I use privacy services and applications? Yes. Do I think they'll do anything? No, not really. It's only a matter of time before they change as well, but I don't mind changing to another one. It's just that I know that this "game" doesn't really have an end that's good for me. If I can just extend it a little longer, that's good enough for me. I know how it ends though. It's OK being a doomer.
thanks for the upload. my insecurities begin with the fact that my ISP knows who i am and where i live, so i just let go. either way i detest the tracking ads business and try not to throw food their way by ticking every box on ublock origin. who doesn't love ticking boxes?
Honestly, most of the privacy problem comes down to bad habits more than the tech. I'd argue people could dramatically improve their privacy by changing just two habits: 1) Use your phone for calls/texts ONLY. 2) Stop using one email/browser/device for everything. Privacy can be difficult to maintain, but most people are handicapping themselves from the beginning.
why did you even come on the internet? just use a phone that can only call and text, plus i don't see companies having any real capacity of brainwash, the best they could do is convince us, they forget that they only convinced us and sometimes they act like they brainwashed us just to backfire and remember that they only convinced us.
Привет из России🙂 Good channel. I had the same thoughts about futile attempts to maintain privacy, but after a while I was able to interest some of my friends and family members to use, for example, a private browser instead of Edge and OnlyOffice instead of standard Microsoft office applications. Yes, this is not a victory over corporations, but it is already a result in the right way.
Great take. I'm pretty far to the right on the online privacy spectrum, de-googled phone all. I convince friends and family to make steps in the right direction, even if it's just using the a better messaging app or browser. It's important to touch on the difference between privacy and anonymity. Where you can't have privacy, you can usually have anonymity via burner accounts not associated with a real name/email/phone/ip. The apps will still collect usage info, but it's mostly useless to them because they can't associate the data with a real person.
Email cannot be end to end encrypted. Best case scenario is that services like protonmail might encrypt emails within their domain (i.e. emails originating from protonmail and sent to another protonmail address). I understand the importance of privacy, but keep it within what's possible.
I can't really blame the doomer after all the microchip have back door and the ia will soon poses the necessary power to start making assumptions about your use of your own personal information its depressing
I currently work in finance and have worked in tech. I promise that most people have no idea what the level of surveillance is. Do you use a debut card, credit card, own property, or have a modern car? The internet extends into the "real world." There's no escaping it. We simply have to choose whom we're willing to trust with our information and what we're willing to live without. Modern life is a platform we all choose to live on.
The fact people are not caring/actively opting in for "convinience" is someting I never really understand. It's a giant glowing hook. and if more and more people cared, law might actually do something. ...Yet people claims to know that it's pointless. That is how things are in dictatorship until enough people are convinced to cause revolution. I just want to mind my business, without being peeked from behind with digital eyes. -Is that too much to ask? no. it is totally normal and crazy if not.
To save future video watchers who stumble upon this video, this was an entire fluff video with no real solution. Just a random guy on the internet making a video with filler instead of getting right to the point with a direct solution you can take action with today because there is a genuine cyber security expert talking instead of a dweeb who knows their way around a video editor. Save your time and go search for people who actually do this for a living instead of blabbing on for revenue that they entirely do not deserve a cent of.
I believe we're living in a shift in awareness; a few years back only us, basement dwellers, care about privacy. But nowadays even 'common' people are starting to care about it.
Privacy needs to be looked at differently in order to understand what it actually means. Basic info like name, sex/gender, age, etc will always be public either through direct visual observation or looking up relevant organization data such as sports activity in school. Thats not what privacy-versed people are always referring to. The focus on privacy pertains more on personal interests, activities, and daily knowledge. Stuff like that can be controlled to a degree. Best approach in my opinion is to scramble the data. Create contradictory info that blurs the facts from fiction. For example, don’t use your main email address in everything. Create alt email accounts for different types of activities. My online shopping account is completely different from my professional account. Keep a separate gap that has no connections to the main account. Its always the little things.
Its not impossible but it is for a decent person. Because the head of state are such sore losers. I don't want to be upset all the time, I just want peace. 🙍🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
Wow man, crazy hugely informative video!. Thanks man, you really made rethink my desicions and actions, not only regarding privacy. The point that you made at the of the video about doomers is really on spot and alson help me realize that all what matters regardless of the subject is that taking any kind of action IS better than taking NO action at all. Thanks man, God bless you.
I think that the greater problem is not protecting our own privacy, but having this situation in the current age. No matter how much everyone protects their own privacy, every surveilling entity could always enhance their mechanisms. So we would engage further down the surveillance war, and the clear winners will always be the surveillers. What do we do to get out of this war entirely is the question.
Honestly as much as I hate to admit it, regulations and laws are the current answer. Look at the EU and how they are looking at these companies. I don't trust the government but hey you gotta fight with the tools you have.
It's almost impossible to relay this message to the "ordinary" people. I am a mid conscious person about my privacy (Firefox, uOrigin, DuckDuck, opt out of Google history be it YTB, Maps..) I use nextdns on my phones etc... You should research and publish video on how acquired data (by the big tech companies) could hurt us (like companies using our social accounts to profile us before the job interview... I bet there are paid services or software out there that could do just that) that should trigger something. Just google for your name, or google with your image 😬
Don't forget to not buy newer cars if you care about your whereabouts not being tracked constantly. Most people are aware that their phones are spying on them, but I think cars are often overlooked.
First fill all cloud services with garbage or rick rolled 8k videos so waste thier data center with rick roll 8k videos 😂😂😂😂use all free cloud space upload Rick Roll 8K or Some big Garbage junk File 😂😂😂😂 Please everyone do this
I think its important to be private when its actually necessary. I ran graphene OS on my phone and was generally really privacy concerned but i lost so many conveniences like cellural network GPS estimation, Google assistant, and all that nice software integration between different apps. it was just overkill. Nowdays i dont really care about being privacy oriented on my day to day life. Ofcourse when im doing something sensitive, i turn on my mullvad vpn or encrypt my sensitive folder, keep my passwords in an physical notebook for those important things but like for normal stuff, i just dont give a fuck that google knows when im sitting up, walking, where i am all the time. the trade off of having a great mobile OS experience is worth the tradeoff for me. my point is just that be smart about your privacy by case by case basis in a pragmatic way and not be tied ideologically to it
The fact people dont care about their online privacy is the exact reason why these companies getting away with violating it in the first place
People do care, but no one reads the obfuscated User Agreements before using an APP/ Website / Operating System. So most live in ignorance.
True.
A contributing factor is a lack of education on how these technologies work.
That is so true.
@@2failepicNot really. I have come across people who say we can't do anything or they'll say you're not paying so you'll have to pay with your data
"What happens on your iPhone stays on your iPhone"
Those iCloud pictures you deleted 8 months ago: "Correct!"
I just heard about that before posting this video haha
@@EricMurphyxyz will you make a video on that ?
@@TrainerClintthere will be no need
@@EricMurphyxyz hell has broken loose cuz of that
@@TrainerClint There really isn't much to report on since its all just hearsay from Reddit.
It would be great to debunk Apple's claims of "We pinky promise we're good guys" but relying on a text post on Reddit is pretty shakey.
i think at this point it's about minimizing the amount of data collected rather than trying to stop it entirely.
Exactly.
Not just that, but also separating "sensitive" data from the rest of your life and exercising more caution with it.
Exactly right.
Is the sacrifice in convenience really worth it?
@@luimu yes, it is
To be honest I tried going full schizo for a time because I was so engaged with idea of privacy and its REALLY HARD. I dont get why people often laugh at doxxed or darknet people opsec "ohh he got caught the most basic way ever lelelelel". Like its not a matter if you slip up - its a matter when. Internet is a daily part of our life that we do most of it on autopilot and you are bound to make mistakes. I still try to keep myself as private as possible but being 100% private would probably require a team of people working and double checking every single decision and time you do anything on the internet.
Same, I think a lot of people go full schizo at least for a while. Not sustainable for the long term though without losing your sanity
the wolf only needs enough luck to find you once
@@EricMurphyxyz You just gotta quit worrying about that sanity stuff. It's overrated anyway...
@@chrismay2298not realistic when you have a family. Let's not push a unrealistic narrative.
Not worth your sanity, unless you do something shady
"If you aren't paying for the product, you are the product" isn't even true anymore. Even when we do pay for the product, you are the product. I have a $1000+ TV that I don't connect to the Internet, otherwise LG will start collecting all my data. I pay for cell phone service and Verizon still collects as much data as they can. Cars are one of the most expensive things you can buy and even they are collecting your data for the benefit of the manufacturer even though the car cost 10s of thousands of dollars.
We're the product regardless of whether we paid or not. This sucks.
Also I stopped using Brave search because it wouldn't show me the results until I let it use my device for "proof of work" first. Bollocks to that. Using DuckDuckGo now.
Yup, the carrier knows plenty of what you do - but Google and Apple and Facebook also know plenty, in some cases, even more.
In the case of cars, I would be willing to accept that the car collects data, if it was for diagnostic purposes in case something goes wrong. Kinda like the flight recorder on a plane. Being able to look at the data and see what you were doing when the car's engine failed, for instance, would be of tremendous help to the mechanic as well as the manufacturer, as the mechanic would be able to fix the car more easily, and the manufacturer could improve their design to make it more robust and safe for the driver. Unfortunately, that's not why cars gather data. They do it because greed.
You can make it so the tv can only connect to one service and no other. In your router settings.
The inverse is true now. Not paying is usually the only way to not be a product anymore. Although admittedly, it's a different kind of "not paying".
I was actually pessimistic about being more private bc of the "They've already collected so much data" argument floating in my head, and that "changing the locks" argument makes sense to me. I mean... i have a 10+ Year old Google account and 15Y Microsoft account, so there's a lot of data, but... it makes sense! I can protect myself from other shady people and refuse to give MORE to those companies. After all, we've reached such times where we cannot escape the online world.
Maybe where u live can't, but but there are some parts in the world where u can forget about using tech at all...sadly those kind of places are getting fewer and fewer.
Everyone should care about their privacy.
2:37 I don't hate the company who 'sells' the TV in exchange for User Data. Because all other TV companys just sell you a TV for money and sell your Data on top in secrecy.
At least that company is honest with it's customers.
friends always say something like "ive got nothing to hide" and im like, i got nothing to share either xd
Nice!
Nice pfp
if you want privacy, create a new identity. It's way harder to delete old identity, but always easier to start fresh
Or better yet, scramble the existing data with false data.
What if you have shared your real life look and interests?
@@chibisayori20 you are creating someone that’s not exist so shouldn’t matter unless you violate some OpSec practices. Like transfer the bitcoin you get from the darknet, into your robinhood account which link to your bank account or bragging it with your friend and family
@@chibisayori20 then that info will keep existing, but you don't have to add any new data to it if you only give data into your new identities in the future
@@PRIYANSHUJOSHI-p9dFor example, using January 1st, 1900 as your birthday date
It might be "impossible" to be 100% private online, but that doesn't mean you should just give up and give up all your data. The least you can do is make the companies work for your data instead of getting it by default and minimize what you're giving. Not much I can add to what was already said in the video so i'll just ask anyone who bothered to read my comment:
Would you want to live in a completely transparent house where everything you do can be seen by everyone else regardless if you like it or not? If not then you should start to care about your privacy online.
It's like saying "Well I can never be 100% healthy, there's always more I could do, and nothing's gonna stop the ageing process anyway. So I may as well just binge eat and never exercise and drink and smoke all I want". Just like with health, if you take just a few basic steps, you can be like 80% private no problem, which is good enough (if you think in terms of grades, it's like an A or a B).
Not caring about privacy is like saying I don't care about free speech because I have nothing to say... For now.
I see privacy as an economic statement. If our data is so valuable, they should be paying us for it, full stop. Making apps free isn't enough. If most users would adopt this policy, it might force the companies' hand into paying us all. Either that, or the big companies will double down and get their cronies to write laws forcing our hand, instead. I'm willing to take that gamble.
You are getting paid in the form of convenient services. It doesn't make practical sense for them to pay you cash just to get nothing-data like "this guy likes when we give him cash for the sake of learning that he likes when we give him cash"
The profit may sound big in collective number (millions billions etc), but when divided by the number of users it becomes mere pittance of several cents/dollars 😂 that most wouldn't bother going through the process to collect 😂
@@MrHjacky why are you factoring in only profits? This ain't no tax season lol. And some of us generate more data than others.This ain't no class action lawsuit either 🤣
@@yomammasaurusrex9571 "Getting paid in the form of convenient services" I bet that boot tastes convenient too lmfao. microsoft products are known for being especially convenient
"yeah so why are you so privacy concious?" "oh it's just that i want to sell my own data, google is giving me too much competition"
I think the most important part about internet privacy is also the isolation of service. You can just close UA-cam if you don't use it, or you can just use another web browser to separate it from your other web browser uses, and by using Linux, this becomes incredibly possible to just do that because generally speaking, Linux doesn't track you, and you can do your work without the fear of your privacy.
there is an addon that isolates your internet browsing, multiple containers
There are ways to make UA-cam forget who you are:
- new browser (mullvad)
- on a new OS (parrot linux VM)
- connected to a VPN (proton)
- under a new account (novel proton email persona)
Congrats, you're "new" and they don't know you. The algorithmic weights do not yet exist on your new account. You can now start searching whatever you want that novel persona to be interested in.
@@xCheddarB0b42xwhy parrot linux? Theres so many other more stable options that have the same level of privacy
@@xCheddarB0b42x I mean yeah you can do that but at that point you may as well just stop watching UA-cam. Part of the selling point of UA-cam is that it can cull down an infinite amount of videos into one's you would actually want to watch. If you are always on a new account UA-cam is a pretty bad website.
@@hastyscorpion a new YT account can be trained in under a day.
last time i was this early the farms were still on TOR
“I don’t have anything to hide” - extremely naive people with little to no knowledge of history.
Saying freedom can live without privacy is like saying people can live without oxygen
actually it's saying "it's like living without clothes" and people can do that, the only issue is other people telling them to dress up or get arrested for indecent exposure
Privacy as a concept getting phased out is an overall boon for humanity. Who wants to live in a world of shame and ignorance
@@yomammasaurusrex9571
You're entirely misconcepted about this.
Shame will still exist and will be exploited more than ever before against you, as any info can be held against you.
Lack of privicy is the main tool to exploit shame.
Your utopia would be the most ignorant it can possibly be. @@yomammasaurusrex9571
@Mayhzon you're not thinking big picture enough. With the phasing out of privacy comes a general open mindedness alongside it. Both are required to progress in tandem, as they directly influence one another.
For privacy search engines, there is also french based Qwant. Since it is based in France, it is bound by the EU data law, which is much stricter than just about anywhere outside of EU. Qwant does have ads (for those not using an adblocker) but they are never targeted ads, since they don't collect data from you. You also have to enable a special cookie in settings, in order for Qwant to remember your search history, otherwise it will automatically delete your history upon closure of Qwant. It also have a kid friendly version, which will automatically exclude a lot of content not meant for kids, so they have a much harder time happen upon content they weren't meant to see.
Firefox is not private, but Librewolf is better.
Comparing to most of the browsers, it's one of most private one on the market
Tor:
Having my parents say “If you have nothing to hide, why worry?” When it comes to privacy, it’s honestly sad to see that me taking my privacy seriously at all makes me come across as a criminal to them. And no, they’re not old people, infact, I’m still in the education system. I wish it would be possible to care about your own privacy without being seen as a drug dealer or something
I don't lock the bathroom door because it's illegal to take a shit. It's the same concept with online privacy.
they should just ban free speech too cuz they have nothing to say
Humans aren’t smart and their goal is to control you maybe it has nothing to do with what you propose
I think one of the problems is that people that think that this subject doesn't matter seems to be that same people that don't care about politics. But this is an inherent political conversation
i don't care which party wins as long as they care about everyone individually because only caring about majority and ignoring the minority is not a good way to create the heaven
WHO USES FACEBOOK
EUROPE
Southeast Asia
Latin america
Other people. Just because toxic websites like twitter are the norm now doesn't mean that fb isn't being used anymore
parents and grandpas
I always ask such people: If you were showering and noticed someone was peeping through the window or a hidden camera, would you just ignore it?
The most "paranoid" thing I've done for privacy lately is that I made my smartwatch work offline, that means I removed the pair from my device, so it doesn't send data to any application, I delete my account from the application I was forced to download and use to set up the watch and now it is just in on my wrist and shows me calories I burnt and how much I walked but big companies doesn't get that data.
But I generally start to go through my phone and delete accounts from apps I don't use anymore and the uninstall them after
I want to confess I was a privacy doomer myself and thought that achieving privacy was impossible, but just like it was said, it's not a binary but a spectrum, and thanks to you I understand this better now. I will try to make a more privacy-friendly presence now. Cheers!
There's this general philosophy which, for me, can be applied to all aspects of life.
"It's not about defeating evil. It's about opposing it as much as you can"
We can't truly stop it. We can't make it disappear. But this doesn't mean we should just allow it to run free. If we do, it may grow too big and do way too much harm.
So we should do what we can to keep it in check. Keep it from growing too much. I believe this works with internet privacy (and other potentially harmful uses of technology such as AI), corruption in the government, greedy corporations, everything.
Wow, well put
Well after the announcement of Recall people are quitting Windows.
What is revall?
What is that?
@@azieg9ygeb trains AI by taking screenshots in stuff but apparently people are freaking out over nothing as it's only on Copilot
@@azieg9ygeb Windows 11 AI that is practically a surveillance service that collects user's data from the OS itself.
Yup. Time to move to Linux.
The fact that ridiculously precise government surveillance is actually real is terrifying. Literally every big tech corp is just spying on all of us all the time... Sometimes I wonder if that 2011 TV series "Person of Interest" is actually real. (Very good show, by the way)
How to privately enjoy sonichu on TAILS OS
You don't need to tell me twice but during the stone age
Why are you using that goofy ahh OS ?? use windows like a normal person
Normies : what's is privacy ?
I've often thought about a service or app that pollutes your data stream to big tech. Automatically, in the background sends erroneous logins, garbage searches, fake location data, random interests, etc. If enough people had such a service running it would degrade the data big tech holds to the point that it becomes useless costing them money and reputation. Would this be possible?
"Apple is going the right direction"
- because they were forced by GDPR
End-to-end encryption is the same deal.
And Proton only encrypts email is they're send between Proton users or of a GPG key has been set-up for every contact...
I get what youre trying to say, but this is mostly just yapping about privacy.
Yeah sure there's no way to be %100 hidden... But that's don't mean you should give it to everyone...
There is
there are ways to be 100% hidden, just not for long
Yeah. You'll just give up as I did 😢@@Visquint
@@ScarfaceLittlebee-mj2ch
not really
@@Visquint i dont think there is way for that, they create the system and device and net they can backdoor anything they want even one tool can do the job
4:15 Real normies doesn't use password managers and 2FA. Sometimes they don't even password protect their computer.
i heavily secure stuff online but don't have a password on bootscreen since there's other issues at hand if someone is breaking into my house lol
Someone should tell him what Microsoft did with copilot...
i may have 5 subscribers, but i also have 3000 FBI agents watching my every move.
so yeah, later losers
Tb be fair, they tried to give away these TVs for $0, and still couldn't even get 1 million units "sold".
500,000 sounds like a lot, but ut actually gives me more faith thatn youd think.
Same with tiktok... I dont actually know anyone who uses it. So not everyone is unaware of these issues.
Giving them wortless data and overloading them is a good strategy. We need to make a addon that spams google with as much wortless data as possible.
abt the privacy-focused browsers, wasnt duckduckgo caught tracking user data, or atleast something of the like, wouldnt that make ddg untrustable until it dies? genuine question, im not trying to be snarky or whatever.
Even if you care about privacy people around you don’t. They have your number because of them
Privacy should and must be a Feature of your device and OS. And you should want to Enable IT !!
Free phones, computers, etc will be the new meta soon so long as you give up data.
Hey Eric! This is an awesome video and spoke to me in an unusual way. You see I am in the mindset of constantly freaking out on my data being not in my control. And then getting depressed about it that no matter what I do I won't be private. Because for eg. Microsoft will always find a way to invade it, and I have to do the cat and mouse game to disable (can't wait this new screenshoting feature they will shove into Windows... time to move to linux)
What I amt trying to say is that this video gave me a peace of mind that I'm not alone and also my attempts are not futile in protecting my privacy. At 3:59 I felt this relief... the situation didn't get any better but my anxiety level dropped. I need to accept that perfect privacy for a normie does not exist (without sacrificing all) and my brain has to just chill. Keep up the good videos!
Glad it helped. I also had the same overwhelmed feeling when I first got into privacy, so I know where you're coming from.
Fear and uncertainty pervade the privacy community. Best not to get carried away and remember that most of these corps are filled with falliable people and systems, with a fair share of incompetence scattered in. Most of the fight is just beating or befuddling the dragnet as best you can, that's already equal or better than 95%+ of people. Forget about serious adversaries unless you have a job profile along the lines of major international criminal, you are a number among hundreds of millions, they don't have anything like the manpower or motivation to deep dive on every grain of sand on a beach.
@@JudoP_slinging wow! This was really poetic and reassuring! Thanks! 😊
The same people complaining that privacy is impossible are the same people putting their full name, hometown, phone number, all their other social medias in their bios.
@maltheri9833 Yeah, thanks, I was exaggerating.
To make people more scared from the "Non-private life"
Just remember that you dont want someone harassing each time you was online 2 min ago in WhatsApp, It is a privat app after all, You can't give your number to anybody, And the same go for this topic as well.
The problem is the default apps, Chrome gets everything because it comes by default.
If both Chrome and Brave were preinstall many people would choose Brave because of privacy. Not half but more than what it is now. (firefox is another story haha)
Which is ironic since isn't that what caused Microsoft to get hit with antitrust?
If you see this, (or anyone for that matter) what are your thoughts on FireFox? I personally think it is the best browser but Im down for feedback
many people would choose chrome because it is from google and they have some idea what google is, unlike brave which is god knows what. most people don't even come close to knowing about privacy as a concept, they have other things to attend to in their lives.
I personally don’t care about my online privacy as much as I should realistically. I’m just pretty annoyed that even with all this data they have on me they still give me the most dog shit ads 😅
Pessimism/Doomerism is a psychological defense mechanism to make apathy or doing nothing a 200 iq big brain Rick and Morty tier move. The people who say that is is "impossible" to be private online have no real logical justification for the statement because none of them really know how the internet works. I've written webserver backends in nodejs and php, and I've had these kinds of losers lecture me on "how the internet really works." This pessimism comes from feelings of inadequacy when they see other people actually take their data into their own hands when they chose not to. It is pure crab bucket mentality. Besides, most of these people have become addicted to sharing all their personal information online anyways through the use of internet upvotes.
well, it _is_ a black-or-white thing. Look at all the opsec failures in the past. If you spend one hour per day as extra effort to secure your privacy on that day, but ONCE in a lifetime break opsec in one moment, the all the automatic stuff immediately unravels: The one device is connected to the other; the one search profile is correlated to the other. So all you did was hopelessly in vain. Even in numbers: For each year that you conduct opsec for one hour per day, you are effectively dying one month earlier. That is severe certain damage to your life, whereas NSA or KGB or China will want to kill or scrutinize you only _maybe_.
You can't even setup a brand new android device off line because Google is more weird about collecting your data and it's bs and I might just use the brave browser because the Google search engine is completely broken.
Holy shit, I've been watching you for months if not a year and never realised that I'm not subscribed.
If you have a privacy solution and you are operating a double life, your 'in the clear' persona should be a privacy doomer.
signal is not safe
what happen if i use youtube without login my google account does it still track the same amount of data or less
yeah. The analogy I make whenever I hear the "just give up" people is the car theft one. The internet is like a street where the content of your car are stolen very frequently but you have to park there.
Just because the probability of having things stolen is very high does not mean I'm gonna leave my car open. Will it avoid a theft? No, but it'll make it harder. And that's the best I can do.
Snowden's "Permanent Record" book is quite enlightening. Never too late to pull back in your data.
Okay but what happens if you don't do all this privacy stuff?
Look. If the algorithm had any clue about who I am, it would show me something relevant to my hobbies, lifestyle, or life goals. It's got my data alright, but I've made efforts to feed it vast swaths of false data, rendering the end product non-viable on my end. But I'm paranoid.
Is there a list of privacy tools/ software available for non tech people to start using ?
I tried to stick with ddg, but it really just sucks....
The question is, is it worth it? There is also other side to all that tracking. We actually benefit from that, personalised ads are of course to make money, but seeing products that fits our intrests is good also for us. Thanks to that we can find something nice we didnt know existed. Facebook showing us people we might know is also useful. I am not saying we should allow all that tracking, but its not that bad for us.
Btw im curious about how it really works with privacy protecting laws, im not sure if its my countrys law or european in general but there is a law that allows me to just go to any company that has my data and ask them to delete it all, and in theory they have to do it. I wonder how would that work in reality, since we hear so often how companies are breaking privacy laws
it depends on the threat model and how far one can go. Can't hold on security, privacy, and usability all at the same time. must sacrifice 1 or 2 in order to preserve the third fully or just try to balance between them.
that Apple motto is a joke since they offer icloud. not taking into consideration the recent scandal with the iOS 17.5 bug that shows a shadow copy of the already deleted photos..
if general browsing and light social media snooping without account is what i'm trying to obfuscate then Tails OS on a dvd is a good option..
Just wanted to drop in and say that your videos have gotten excellent lately. Well-researched, level-headed, and much more *empathetic* than a lot of other videos can be. I'm going to be in a position of leadership at a local community focused on open-source and privacy soon, and your videos (and the resources you cite) will definitely be very helpful in collecting data to do presentations and such. Do keep it up!
We are now at a point where coffee shops will refuse to sell you coffee unless you cough up the phone number first.
I want as few companies having my personal information because of hackers stealing info from those companies. If/when the companies get hacked, I don't want my data that they have of me being used to steal my identity/scam my friends.
So many examples of stolen info being used nefariously out there. It's a pain to deal with cleaning up the mess when it happens.
4:04 why did you recommend brave? from what i heard, brave doesn't actually respect your privacy as much as you'd think, i could be wrong though...
He said degrees of data, not a safedoor. Hence why Brave and DuckDuckGo and even firefox.
Me being a doomer really helped me focus on what I do online, tbh.
Do I use privacy services and applications? Yes. Do I think they'll do anything? No, not really. It's only a matter of time before they change as well, but I don't mind changing to another one. It's just that I know that this "game" doesn't really have an end that's good for me. If I can just extend it a little longer, that's good enough for me. I know how it ends though.
It's OK being a doomer.
I care but I don't think I can do anything about it right now.......I hate being online now.....
I'm cooked. My footprint is on the internet. My goal is to teach my kids
thanks for the upload. my insecurities begin with the fact that my ISP knows who i am and where i live, so i just let go. either way i detest the tracking ads business and try not to throw food their way by ticking every box on ublock origin. who doesn't love ticking boxes?
Great video Eric. I would like to hear your thoughts about the new Copilot+ PCs.
It's a data privacy nightmare in my opinion.
I wanna do a full video on how bad Microsoft is in the future, there's a lot to cover
@@EricMurphyxyz Nice 👍
Honestly, most of the privacy problem comes down to bad habits more than the tech. I'd argue people could dramatically improve their privacy by changing just two habits: 1) Use your phone for calls/texts ONLY. 2) Stop using one email/browser/device for everything.
Privacy can be difficult to maintain, but most people are handicapping themselves from the beginning.
why did you even come on the internet? just use a phone that can only call and text, plus i don't see companies having any real capacity of brainwash, the best they could do is convince us, they forget that they only convinced us and sometimes they act like they brainwashed us just to backfire and remember that they only convinced us.
almost never hear anyone talk about start page but I love it! thanks for mentioning it
Firefox has Google as it's default search engine, very private
theres something called hardening firefox, or just using mullvad browser....
arkenfox is a thing
What are some private, or at least more private browsers?
Very reasonable takes for this interesting period in time. Thank you. Subbed.
I am somewhere between Privacy-Conscious and the Activist, but there is so much more to learn. I subscribed and thank you so much!
I was friends with a Doomer once. She thought I was delusional for comparing data harvesting to mosquitoes and privacy measures to bug spray.
Привет из России🙂
Good channel. I had the same thoughts about futile attempts to maintain privacy, but after a while I was able to interest some of my friends and family members to use, for example, a private browser instead of Edge and OnlyOffice instead of standard Microsoft office applications. Yes, this is not a victory over corporations, but it is already a result in the right way.
Great take. I'm pretty far to the right on the online privacy spectrum, de-googled phone all. I convince friends and family to make steps in the right direction, even if it's just using the a better messaging app or browser. It's important to touch on the difference between privacy and anonymity. Where you can't have privacy, you can usually have anonymity via burner accounts not associated with a real name/email/phone/ip. The apps will still collect usage info, but it's mostly useless to them because they can't associate the data with a real person.
If you could elaborate on burner account, im interested
Email cannot be end to end encrypted. Best case scenario is that services like protonmail might encrypt emails within their domain (i.e. emails originating from protonmail and sent to another protonmail address). I understand the importance of privacy, but keep it within what's possible.
we can fight back i know a way but im not allowed to say it even though anarchist movements are more popular than ever.
I can't really blame the doomer after all the microchip have back door and the ia will soon poses the necessary power to start making assumptions about your use of your own personal information its depressing
I currently work in finance and have worked in tech. I promise that most people have no idea what the level of surveillance is. Do you use a debut card, credit card, own property, or have a modern car? The internet extends into the "real world." There's no escaping it. We simply have to choose whom we're willing to trust with our information and what we're willing to live without. Modern life is a platform we all choose to live on.
Move to a forest and build ur own system
I'm making TempleOS 2.0 rn
@@EricMurphyxyz thats babymode, how you can be sure if there are no hardware backdoors in your pc?
LMAO, try to get american voters to try and get congress to pass a law that helps secure internet privacy
The fact people are not caring/actively opting in for "convinience" is someting I never really understand.
It's a giant glowing hook. and if more and more people cared, law might actually do something.
...Yet people claims to know that it's pointless. That is how things are in dictatorship until enough people are convinced to cause revolution.
I just want to mind my business, without being peeked from behind with digital eyes. -Is that too much to ask? no. it is totally normal and crazy if not.
To save future video watchers who stumble upon this video, this was an entire fluff video with no real solution. Just a random guy on the internet making a video with filler instead of getting right to the point with a direct solution you can take action with today because there is a genuine cyber security expert talking instead of a dweeb who knows their way around a video editor. Save your time and go search for people who actually do this for a living instead of blabbing on for revenue that they entirely do not deserve a cent of.
I believe we're living in a shift in awareness; a few years back only us, basement dwellers, care about privacy. But nowadays even 'common' people are starting to care about it.
Privacy needs to be looked at differently in order to understand what it actually means.
Basic info like name, sex/gender, age, etc will always be public either through direct visual observation or looking up relevant organization data such as sports activity in school.
Thats not what privacy-versed people are always referring to. The focus on privacy pertains more on personal interests, activities, and daily knowledge. Stuff like that can be controlled to a degree.
Best approach in my opinion is to scramble the data. Create contradictory info that blurs the facts from fiction.
For example, don’t use your main email address in everything. Create alt email accounts for different types of activities. My online shopping account is completely different from my professional account. Keep a separate gap that has no connections to the main account.
Its always the little things.
Get a password manager, and you can track who got which email address and other data.
There's no such thing as privacy if you use the internet, almost everything is tracked in some way.
Its not impossible but it is for a decent person. Because the head of state are such sore losers. I don't want to be upset all the time, I just want peace. 🙍🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
Wow man, crazy hugely informative video!.
Thanks man, you really made rethink my desicions and actions, not only regarding privacy.
The point that you made at the of the video about doomers is really on spot and alson help me realize that all what matters regardless of the subject is that taking any kind of action IS better than taking NO action at all.
Thanks man, God bless you.
I think that the greater problem is not protecting our own privacy, but having this situation in the current age. No matter how much everyone protects their own privacy, every surveilling entity could always enhance their mechanisms. So we would engage further down the surveillance war, and the clear winners will always be the surveillers. What do we do to get out of this war entirely is the question.
Honestly as much as I hate to admit it, regulations and laws are the current answer. Look at the EU and how they are looking at these companies. I don't trust the government but hey you gotta fight with the tools you have.
It's almost impossible to relay this message to the "ordinary" people.
I am a mid conscious person about my privacy (Firefox, uOrigin, DuckDuck, opt out of Google history be it YTB, Maps..) I use nextdns on my phones etc...
You should research and publish video on how acquired data (by the big tech companies) could hurt us (like companies using our social accounts to profile us before the job interview... I bet there are paid services or software out there that could do just that) that should trigger something.
Just google for your name, or google with your image 😬
You people need to stop acting like you're anywhere near important enough for companies to give a shit about your data.
Don't forget to not buy newer cars if you care about your whereabouts not being tracked constantly. Most people are aware that their phones are spying on them, but I think cars are often overlooked.
First fill all cloud services with garbage or rick rolled 8k videos so waste thier data center with rick roll 8k videos 😂😂😂😂use all free cloud space upload Rick Roll 8K or Some big Garbage junk File 😂😂😂😂 Please everyone do this
I think its important to be private when its actually necessary. I ran graphene OS on my phone and was generally really privacy concerned but i lost so many conveniences like cellural network GPS estimation, Google assistant, and all that nice software integration between different apps. it was just overkill.
Nowdays i dont really care about being privacy oriented on my day to day life. Ofcourse when im doing something sensitive, i turn on my mullvad vpn or encrypt my sensitive folder, keep my passwords in an physical notebook for those important things but like for normal stuff, i just dont give a fuck that google knows when im sitting up, walking, where i am all the time. the trade off of having a great mobile OS experience is worth the tradeoff for me.
my point is just that be smart about your privacy by case by case basis in a pragmatic way and not be tied ideologically to it