If women is as good as the men, why not? I would like to see women in F1 but they need to be equally competitive with the other drivers regardless of gender or race. Don't just put them in an F1 seat for the sake of diversity, put them on because they deserve it and got the merits for it.
I am all for it if they are good. In my opinion any sport (F1 included) should be about the elite of the elite fighting for wins. We already have paid drivers so having paid drivers and forced female drivers will not be fun to watch. I will say to eliminate paid drivers and let the best of the best race
The 1966 movie 'Grand Prix' says it best- there's only some 25 in the world qualified to drive in F1, out of those 6 my win & of those 2 may win the Championship. We see gals get on track in 12/24 hr races & act like it's a Sunday drive while a race is going on. Then come the men... Not all get to run 100m at Olympics', just the fastest.
Seems like most of y'all missed the point of the video. He literally stated SEVERAL times it's not about putting average females in F1 just to look good, but to support female drivers the same way male drivers are supported and encouraged often from a young age.
bro shut up, F1 has been a male sport for over 80 years and that is simply a fact, it would be just wrong to include women into it, also because probably none of them could ever even get to p20,
Just because it has been a male dominated sport for decades it means women being part of it is wrong. The reason drivers are male is not because they f1 is a male sport itis because men had the opportunity to take part in it.
The likes of Zhou Guanyu Logan Sargeant are literally only in the sport because of marketing. Do you really think they would be above putting in a less than stellar female driver if it means they get more money?
It’s mainly about money, if racing were purely about skills then I’d be somewhere in Motorsport. Racing is unfortunately just for spoiled rich kids who had their parents give up millions just to get them there
Not always about Rich parents Stroll is ok driver and so is Norris both have rich parents and so do a lot of other drivers. Its about talent and it will always shine through in the end.
That is what they are saying, but the problem is, no one is looking at their performances. Too male orientated and good female drivers are being overlooked.
@@deanoq So you are a Misogynist then. She has won the first two seasons and won 7 races in a row this season. She should be given an opportunity in F3 to see if she is any good. Same as young guys getting a chance in F3, like Oscar. But plenty of guys have raced in F3 and F2 and not made the main game as not really good enough. And that is what I am talking about and the Video is talking about, lack of Opportunities. But of course people like you expect them to be the best before they get a chance.
The best female driver Jamie Chadwick is in W series and won everything she could, then she got put in f3 and got beaten by literally everyone alive, get good instead of crying bc you aren’t a male
Totally agreed this shit of diversity in sport to satisfy audiences and this cultural generation robs the hard working and talented drivers if they ever were to forcefully inject women in the sport . . .understandably if they were able to drive better then obviously they should be allowed in f1 but they shouldnt be given a free pass into the sport and go through the same challenges as everyone else
It is true, get fast, than come back. F1 teams in the end are businesses, thus they need to make money, that is done with winning, getting points and if the person drives at the back, getting lapped twice... Its not going to happen
I look at Juju Noda from Japan and how her dad manages her racing career in 2024 with F1 as her goal. She only did F1 Academy once and is now focusing on Super Formula, competing with men since it gives her a better shot. And since finances is always a big deal, she has garnered sponsors so she can compete in different EU races to get a feel on other tracks. Props to her dad who had her skip on female-only programs because it really leads nowhere.
Thankyou for your comments, Juju is a force behind the wheel, followed her for a long time...w.end just gone in Boss GP , podiums but no recognition by the sporting know all British media...because she doesn't fit their agenda in pushing through media only British drivers. A matter of fact, she beat the 2023 f2 champion in her first Super Formula race , having said that they are racing young veterans of SF but given a bit she will be fighting at the top because she's got what it takes. 🍻🍻🦘
Did Lewis help any of the girl to support the financial part of their racing career? He seems to 'care' so much by making all the positive comments. These girls need more than just F1 champions encouragement and good wishes, they need sone kind of financial support, racing is expensive.
You are either good enough to attract attention by a team (and by 'attract', I mean capable of winning) or you are not. Forcing a team or an agenda on "Get Women into F1" will only turn away people who will interpret this not as "these are the best drivers" but as "these are the drivers we think are the best". Not the same thing.
Its not a token gesture if they're good enough. Its the same thing with the WNBA in the sense that nobody cares about another league just for women if the product is inferior. It's not sexist its just the truth that men are bigger, stronger, faster and thus produce a more watchable game, match, race. It should be based on merit and ability not trying to make everyone feel included. Im 6'4" and am an excellent driver and would also love to be a F1 driver, where's the league with taller cockpits so I can feel included. FOH
If they are good enough, they’ll be on the grid. A good driver is the main priority for any team so I highly doubt any team will go out of their way to make sure women don’t get a seat
These kind of discussions always make it sound like there's 5 woman out there that can compete for an F1 World Championship but there's teamdirectors out there who say: LOL Nope you're female, you're not allowed in F1. But we all know that's not the case at all.. If you're good enough to make it to F1, you'll make it to F1, regardless of whatever diversity group you belong to
i personally think the winner of the W series should be given a drive in F3 or even F2, but do i think they would be competitive in F1? no because i think they would struggle with physicality of driving an F1 car. Danica Patrick was a very good driver in IndyCar but F1 is a very different beast, 100% give them every opportunity to reach F1 and prove themselves and if that one or two very special woman are out there that can match the lap times then yes give them the shot but i dont think they would handle the G forces
@@mikepenman1432 The girls in the W series are lapping faster than F3. I have been watching and they are pretty good. They deserve the chance to go into F3 and see how they go from there.
@@mikepenman1432 i was under the impression the cars in the W series were very similar to F3 but you are correct it would still be a shortcut as the drivers are definitely at a higher level in F3 vs W series
Wrong about the physical side mate. At the Bathurst 1000 in Australia, the Women have done all right doing the 6 hours and 1000 Kms. Problem was they were not in cars good enough to keep up. In the Australian V8 Supercars we have had Women and they have done well. Manhandling a 1300 KG car with little Aero assistance and no ABS or TC at all, plus using s stick shift. And they lapped as fast as the guys. These girls have the strength and ability. Start young and you develop the necessary strength and endurance to drive fast.
@@BatMan-oe2gh Dude you can't compare V8 supercars to F1, a V8 supercar drivers neck would quite literally give out after a few laps, look at every F1 drivers neck their massive just got hold ya know your 13lbs head at 6-7G's your head is weighing nearly 70lbs at that G Force. V8s can get a max of like 2g while cornering and 3 while breaking. Not in the same league
I can’t stand hearing about “diversity” in the sport. The sport is p2p; want diversity? Then financially back someone who is diverse. Plenty of black, South American, middle eastern, Asian billionaires out there. They aren’t funding drivers who look like them tho.
As a brown dude, I agree. Tbh, hearing anything about “diversity” im sports bugs me. I want the best of the best playing the sport I watch - couldn’t care less about how they look.
There can be women in form you a one. It's about talent and not aboutt gender. There have been female Formula 1 drivers in the past. But it's not about feminizing the sport, Whether you're a female or a male and a good Racer is what counts. F1 is physically demanding and if you're female and can meet that requirement so be it just because your female doesn't mean you can't do it, it's not about gender.
Even women that arent feminists agree that men and womens sports are completely different. They are different physical human beings. The current F1 grid isnt even the best of the best, and you can always find another man thats faster. Look Im all for woman in F1 if they are good enough.
I finding most of the male commentators on here saying the same thing, Oh if Good enough they will get a drive, well how do they get that chance if they are not given the opportunity to prove themselves.
@@BatMan-oe2gh thats not how it works. You have to be really impressive just to get a chance to show the big teams that you are indeed impressive. Look at Nyck de vries. Did all he could won f2 and fe. Still only today got a chance to show what he could do because albon got sick. The whole f1,2,3,4 is an exclusive sport. Also being very expensive so yes you need backing.
One thing about F1 is that women definitely are capable of being as good as men unlike physical sports. If there were as many women interested in F1, it would very much be a coed sport. Like imagine the odds of making F1 and being successful is like 0.025%, if you throw a thousand men at that, you're going to get at least one that's good enough, but now you only put at most, let's say a dozen women, you can't really expect one of them to be good. The odds are just too low.
@@NoCluYTYour statement about odds is true and correct, however, it in no way proves (or even supports) your other statement that women are capable of being as good as men at F1. There are mental skill differences in genders too: Women are less spacially aware, worse at judging speed, and have slower reaction times (all scientific facts). That's in general, but there is no reason to believe it won't be reflected in the highest levels of talent as well. F1 is also extremely physical, so that does come into it too. Try sitting in a sauna while having 4g exerted on your head. You'd almost certainly pass out.
Ethnic diversity of the grid is poor.. Statements like that are really an issue to me.... Not that I'm against equality and representation for all .. Infact I'm all for it as the more that are included the better the potential for better races, matches, etc etc.. But we can't blame an ethnic group, race or certain sex for this.. Not in todays Times.. There are many many wealthy people and businesses in this world.. Not just white men....if these other races, Ethnic groups were interested in racing there is no reason or anything stopping them from creating, financing or sponsoring their own teams or families or their own ethnic groups or religious groups. Equal oppurtunity for women as for anyone race, gender or religion should be a given but life is not a hand out.. It takes commitment, sacrifice, luck and someone to contribute financially based on your potential... But you have to prove that.. No one is going to come looking for you
You don't want to use logic with these people, their brains might melt. The implication here that "only white men make money and therefore only white men make it big" is so laughable it's depressing. It's a sign that the video maker(s) have never ever been out into the world and seen the variety of countries filled with the uber-rich. It says more about them than it does about society's inability to be "equal".
How many drivers are female in all motorsport ?, i believe the number is tiny and when you look at the number of drivers in F1 the percentage chance of female driver getting a seat is so small. A female driver needs to compete / win in the lower classes just as current F1 drivers may have done unless of course bank of dad is still aviliable simple really.
I think you missed the point of the video. No one is saying just to put them in the seat to tick a box. The point is to provide funding, representation and opportunities for young girls from karting age. That would help to get them into f1 with the same skills as the men coming in
@@bekkylouise3896 no one is saying not to provide funding for women...only point is they should be interested and should have the talent to come through
@@darshang1262 I completely agree. All I’m saying is is they they need to have opportunities from a young age and representation so that young girls have someone to look up to who looks like them :)
@@Carlos559Caps But, equality of outcomes is brainless and can never happen. Equality of outcomes would do exactly what the OP is suggesting. You'd have to include every religion (or the Zoroastrians will moan), every body shape (or the fattos will moan), every age (or the oldies will moan), every hair colour (or the gingers will moan), every area of the world (or the Pacific Islanders of Kiribati will moan), every colour, every sex, every background... Good luck trying to find the 7ft 6in grey transgender 70-year-old Jew from Fiji just to tick that final box...
@@PA-lf8sd yea but you see none of that matters in the grand scheme of things to those who preach “equality of outcome”. I fully get your point and agree totally. Equality of outcome is a joke.
It is perfectly understandable and definitely not shocking at all that the 20 best drivers in the world are men and there are no women in F1. There aren't even any women in F2 or F3 getting race wins. They can't compete with males when it comes to the fitness, stamina, reflexes, ability to absorb so much gforce for the extended period of time to drive a Grand Prix. Much like there are no women playing Tennis in the men's comp etc. I'm not saying there are no talented women drivers, just no women drivers capable of beating the top 20 males in an F1 car over a Grand Prix distance. We can't just put women in the sport for the sole sake of including them. If there is a female driver fit enough and consistently fast enough to compete with the men, then yes let them race.
@@recorderknight1559 you are comparing cars from 40yrs ago and not even an F1 car but a highly modified sedan rally car to a modern F1 car? dont get me wrong there are some amazing women drivers out there but very very few in the top level of any motorsport category
Go to any kindergarten and ask the mixed class about cars, how many kids would raise their hands saying they like cars? How many do you assume are boys and how many do you assume are girls? Males are typically way more interested in sports than females, some sports might be popular among women but motorsports ratio of interest is probably one of the most male dominant. Furthermore, only 20 drivers are in formula 1 per season. It is a costly sport, not everyone is able to put their kids on a kart to learn the ropes early on, not every kid who's passionate about karts gets the sponsorship which allows them to pursue their dreams further, it's hard for anyone to get into formula 1. Besides, talent is also a huge factor and males are proven to be superior to females in the physical aspect. Have reaction times been tested between highly competitive men vs women? This crying about "equal representation" everywhere is starting to piss me off. I wonder when will youtube start promoting videos talking about the lack of female representation in the mining fields or construction sites.
Before women were allowed to be astronaut's and jet fighter pilots how could they get the opportunity? Now there are women doing so and are top in those fields.
Sooo.....the series that claims to be the tip of the spear as far as technology and skill should allow drivers that are not the highest qualified and fastest drivers in the world. I argue that paid drivers should be removed. They're taking seats that in my opinion significantly better drivers could fill. To say F1 SHOULD have female drivers is ridiculous. If they're fast enough they would be in f1 already.
Did you not watch the video? Until 2019 there was no way the Girls could get in because of the way F1 was set up by men. The opportunity has not been there. Now they have the W Series and Jamie is doing well and lapping as fast as the guys in F2, yet has not been given an opportunity in a F1 car, even a Track day such as testing. So Jamie has 15 Super Points on her Licence to drive and could have more if given more opportunities at testing and track days. I find most of the male commentators on here saying the same thing, Oh if Good enough they will get a drive, well how do they get that chance if they are not given the opportunity to prove themselves.
@@BatMan-oe2gh what are you on about, Jamie has not won a F3 or a F2 championship to have any f1 team bat an eye, quite literally every single driver on that F1 grid has won F2 or GP2 for formula 3000 series championships and got their big break through because of it, if Jamie did as well she would have been a f2 graduate alongside Tsunoda and Schumi for 2021 and WOULD have had the chance at an f1 seat. But you wouldn’t know that by statistic and career data and only decided by saying because she’s a woman she can’t get a chance to be in F1 and blame the W series themselves for not giving the female racers the same dallara chassis with the Mecachrome V634 turbo v6 that you find in F2 chassis. Maybe they wouldn’t be lapped buy the same guys that are already acclimated with the machinery…except…Ragunathan…anyway..you at-ill can’t even use the excuse of until 2019, because Jamie participated in the British F3 series and did not win the championship
@@BatMan-oe2gh Opportunities are earned not given, every driver that has tested for an F1 team has been a top tier performer and almost certainly at the top of the development program of their respective team, something Jamie is far away from being.
@@VitoScorcesse How do we know if they are not given any opportunity? Females have competed in F1 and done all right, just in the wrong teams. And I look at Drivers on the grid now that have not even gotten a podium even after 50 or 60 races. So as Jamie has not even been given an opportunity in F3, we will never know how good she could be. Females have raced in many other series and done OK. And earned? I know of drivers who only got a seat because either Dad paid for it, or they brough sponsorship with them, and still not performed very well.
I don't believe that f1 is intentionally keeping women out of seats. Talent, financial backing and partnerships, outright pace and technical feedback abilities is.
Diversity is not a problem to be solved. This is a world were teams pay for the best performance they can get. From drivers to engineers. If you are the best, you'd be hired. That's how this works. So far the women drivers in other classes have not been good enough to break in. Understand that there's a large field of drivers that are good enough for F1 and never get a shot because there's a very limited field and/or their dad isnt named Stroll.
David Coulthard has the right idea, AND it needs to be picked up and embraced at ALL levels of motorsport so that from children carting, THROUGH to F1 and other series such as WEC WRC ELMS SUPERGT and others, allow competition that is not segregated: therefore any gender can race in any series should be unbroken from the bottom to the top, in this way allowing the best of the best along all of these progressive steps rise to the top regardless of gender, or race. Then and ONLY then will the whole SYSTEM be fair in allowing fair competition and support to the best drivers throughout their careers leading them to whichever type and level of competition they can achieve.
Yes, they do; even though in almost every one of them the female sport is almost entirely subsidized by the male sport, AND in almost every female sport the elite women are easily bested by men who arent good enough to make it (or 15 year old boys in the case of the World Cup winning US Women's Team). Instead of crying that there's not enough diversity because women just aren't physically strong/powerful enough to compete at high levels of men's sports, they should either find strategies to beat the physicality of the men, or create entertaining sports that benefit their lower centre of gravity and agility... Roller Derby would actually be an excellent example of this if the overwhelming majority of leagues weren't run by women who outright refuse to take any learning from men's sports to aid them towards success.
@@BruceDoesStuff Sports like F1 were designed by men for men. To attract women viewers, women should go back to their first principles and design sports representing the gatherer's approach to bearing risks rather than the hunter's approach. There will always be individuals breaching this dichotomy, which is fine, but being blind to the overwhelming statistics is lose-lose for everyone involved. You die much more likely by not embracing your approach, which kind it is is secondary. (Hunter - single big chunk of risk, get up and repeat, gatherer - risk is spread across small commitments that have to be consistent)
At present there isn't anyone good enough coming through. If you take the backing out of it. Where drivers are racing on merit. They're isn't any female drivers showing that ability. I'm not sayin that women ain't good enough but the current crop ain't got that extra 10%. But surely it comes to grassroots at home. Back then it was dolls and kitchens for girls and building blocks and cars for boys. I watch all forms of Motorsport there is women in other classes doing well but they still ain't as good as there male counterparts. The only woman I know that's done well is Danica Patrick. I don't want women on track unless it's done on merit where she is good enough. And if she has the backing she better be bloody good.
Two reasons for lack of diversity in motorsports(specifically F1, but can apply to others): -women aren't very interested in general -you need to be pretty wealthy to get in which locks out most racial minorities anyways
It's a thing for wet vaginas to wail about, just like they'll be wailing about some ethnic problem tomorrow and some trans problem the day after. I reckon men that do this shit are just virtue-signalling to try and get laid. Except, what self-respecting woman would date a fucking wetto whining on about diversity and female rights constantly...?
I've never driven an F1 car, or anything similar, but considering how much drivers of these cars train physically, it must require some level of strength. If you look at other physical sports in which men and women compete (track, tennis, etc.) you will see that the BEST women cannot compete against the best men. I'm not being 'sexist' but realistic. Having said that, there have been some exceptions at Indianapolis and in NASCAR, but I'm not sure those types of races are comparable. I'd love to see it, but it has to be based on talent and performance not by using identity as EVERYTHING else seems to be today!
best example is all the TRANS WOMEN, for example this swimmer... been a male for 20+ years, competed as one of the weaker with men and then suddenly wanted to be a woman and compete against FEMALES.... and was literally chilling and was still miles ahead of all the females... thats damn fair right?
Wrong about the physical side mate. At the Bathurst 1000 in Australia, the Women have done all right doing the 6 hours and 1000 Kms. Problem was they were not in cars good enough to keep up. In the Australian V8 Supercars we have had Women and they have done well. Manhandling a 1300 KG car with little Aero assistance and no ABS or TC at all, plus using s stick shift. And they lapped as fast as the guys. These girls have the strength and ability. Start young and you develop the necessary strength and endurance to drive fast. Problem is like the video said, Jamie winning 2 seasons in a row, and yet can not get a seat in F3 to see if she is good enough, or even getting track time in a F1 car to test them.
You got a point,f1 car does need lot of physical strength, and we know woman body are just generally have less muscles mass and are weaker,might be wrong but maybe current f1 car physical strength are way to much for a woman
@@alttt751 Women flying Jet Fighters show they can have the strength and handle the G Forces. Plenty of women around that are stronger then men. And the F car is not a strength driving, it is fitness. The men are not weight lifters or bulked up with massive muscles. And the Car is easy to steer, you don't need a lot of strength to turn the wheel. otherwise even the men would be worn out after an hour.
@@BatMan-oe2gh "Plenty of women around that are stronger then men." Yes...but that's a really really daft thing to say, because we're not talking generally are we? We're talking about the extremes - athletes at the top. Show me one woman who is stronger than a male top-level athlete.
Who is from the Caribbean? Checo? He is from Mexico. Mexico is a Latinamerican and North American country, not from the Caribbean. Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk.
The only lack of diversity I see is a lack of diversity in critical thinking. The drivers with the greatest ability tend to rise to the top. Nothing stopping someone from asia, south america, africa etc. from winning F4, F3, F2 and F1 if they have the talent (and funding as is the case for EVERY driver in motorsport). Whats between their legs, or what color their skin is makes no difference, but their strength to push down that heavy break pedal might, as too their hand eye etc. Its not a matter of gender, its a matter of physical make up which will skew the odds in favor of males. Perhaps we should also work towards more diversity in the 100m Mens Sprint at the Olympics? make that grid 'diverse'? less of these super fast dark skinned people, and more of the slower white skinned people and women of course. Yeah, a 100m Mens final with 50% women and 50% white, that sounds fair right? thats why people watch it right to see diversity over the fastest and most impressive human beings on the planet, right? That makes about as much sense as picking F1 drivers based on skin color or gender. Keep politics out of sport IMO, let the best person win.
i would not mind female drivers in F1, however the fact is that in F1 especially money talks. And most, if not all, of the current female drivers just dont have the right sponsors of funds to enter F1. We saw a couple of them try their hand at F3 in the past but none of them got any points, which is why at the end of it all W series was created. The problem with that series is that their cars are even slower than F3 cars, they are just above karting really in performance. I watched a W series race once and it was boring AF to watch, nothing ever really happened and they were going so slow around the track that i almost fell asleep. Maybe its an endurance problem, F1 is after all the toughest racing sport on ones body to endure, G forces alone can get pretty high on some tracks so that may also contribute to the lack of female drivers in F1. I do think though that a W series champions at least should get a spot in at least F3 and then it would be on them to perform to get to F2 and maybe even F1. W series not having a step up point right now really is a big issue
Europe is not a country. Why would you say rest of the drivers are European. Like Europe is not A melting pot of countries cultures and people. Diversity shouldn’t be the reason why anyone is included. The only reason you should be included in f1 is because you’re fast.
This whole diversity thing baffles me, if you’re not good enough then you just aren’t good enough, no matter your gender or race, you can’t just put someone in a car based off of gender or race because they’ll come last every single race because there not good enough
"(none are women)...That just can’t be correct." Why not...? Why does everyone assume that if there's no women then there's something wrong? It really worries me that anyone thinks like this. "...the rest are white European..." It's almost as if you need to be rich and/or have rich contacts to get into F1. It's almost as if Europe is one of the richest areas on the planet. If Africa wants a driver, why don't they build massive corporations, make a shit load of money and finance an African driver, the same way the Chinese have done, and the same way the Mexicans have done, the same way the Thais have done, the same way the Canadians have done, the same way the Brazilians have done...?
If a woman is fast enough, she will be in F1. What brand wouldn't want to be associated with the first F1 female driver thats there based on merit? It's a PR gold mine.
“It is beyond belief that of the 20 best drivers of the world, none of them are female. That just can’t be correct” It’s really not a complex concept. Men and women ARE different and in the world of sports there will always be situations exactly like this.
@@chrisvenn4827 exactly. Seems women are in basically every other possible position within an F1 team besides the drivers. Forced diversity/equity type approaches to things just ruin everything
@@Carlos559Caps I'm just saying this is one of the sports where physicality isn't a big issue. Look at Yuki (love him) dude is 5'3. They should be taking advantage of it. This is one of the stupid things our society has done with so much separation between the two. Look at chess even that is split into male and female and it doesn't make sense anymore
They're missing the point. Of course there's talented women motorsport stars already. Women should have their own F3/F2/F1 categories for women just as there is womens football, womens darts, womens rugby. Be realistic and support them in their own series.
Why are we even talking about this. F1 is not just being good at driving cars, people tend to forget how physical it is. Fucking hell, as much as we like to pretend we are equal in sports, its simply not true. There are not a lot of men that can handle driving an F1 car for a full race, there are even less women, and what's the chance of the few that can handle the physical aspect, one of them is also a top racing driver to even be considered for the F1?
Motorsport would be more diverse if talent was the number one talking point, but instead people only seem to care about money. It shouldn’t matter who someone is, if they’re good enough then they should be celebrated as a great driver, not for being something they were born as. We’d already probably have a female driver or two that are possibly fairly fast in F1 but it will probably never happen if the sport only cares about money… it’s the stupid and unfortunate reality, F1 would also be a lot more exciting to watch because it would be filled with by far the fastest drivers ever, rather than it being fast drivers who make tens of millions a year when some shouldn’t be there
Why do you assume women can't have the money to back a woman....? Plenty of rich women out there - they could champion a female driver easily. Maybe women in general don't give a fuck about F1. Maybe there's no women good enough to be championed...? In any case, what if it was just based on talent - like a league system where you get promotion and relegation, but still no women got to F1? What excuse would you roll out then...?
@@PA-lf8sd also the “ excuse “ would simply be that they haven’t found a women anywhere near fast enough to compete. It’s very simple to understand. Look at Jamie Chadwick, sure she’s quick in W series but tests have shown that she’d be probably even slower than Latifi, you really think it would make any logical sense to put someone in a series where you have the fastest drivers in the world but said person most likely isn’t even good enough to get any points. Use logic and common sense…
They need a women’s series that’s a better car than an F3 car. That way, F2 teams will have an easier choice. How they do in F2 is a good way to get in.
never not for the lack of talent , but for the lack of raw strength and stamina . Just as in any other sport . Just look it up here in youtube and see how well woman do against man when strength and stamina are a deciding factor .
There will never be a female in F1 without some sort of manufactured sponsorship or handout (Think Haas and Mazepin with URAL). Complaining about this is like complaining that there isn't a female in the Top 20 in Sprinting or Weightlifting. The physical tolls alone would almost ensure that there will be a male more qualified for an F1 ride over a female. F1 drivers in addition to being exceptional drivers are also Top flight athletes. Small guys that are super strong with endurance. Apples to Apples those are highs that females cannot reach
There's only been 1 in 100 years of the tt and she stopped because of the danger once she got a top 10 result she was done in her eyes she had proven a point and no one has bothered again
I am a very minor league kart racer and I've been trying to make my way up but it ain't happening due to money and also female drivers taking all the major league spots and yes I do think its a good idea its just not fair how all of a sudden. They wanna be anti sexist but now younger dudes like me don't have a shot anymore
I just wonder if there gets to a certain point where the physicality and speed of the top leagues may be too much for a woman with the best ingenuity to make up. While I do not have an idea of the pressures and physical demand F1 exerts on the body, there is ultimately physical differences. One of the less known details other than muscle mass, bone thickness, etc. is that the male eye is netter at quick pace and tracking at distance while a female eye has more strengths in discerning colors. Just to make it clear I'm not saying women are bad drivers, just there might be different biological limitations as we get to certain speeds where knowledge and talent can't overcome. I may be wrong as this is just speculation from just my biological knowledge and I guarentee those women are better racers than 99% of men, but these sports are the pinnacle of sports were the smallest advantage can be critical, even our visual "programming".
Women will get there just like top gun female pilots, having the advantage of a lighter body (less g's exposure) and also a shorter heart to brain distance, which also helps in large g manoeuvres. If anyone starts karting at 5 years old they will learn the tricks of the trade. Especially in something like driving that is not the same as pure athletic sports like boxing or the 100m sprint or marathon in which genetics and body composition play a much larger role in being the right type to win. Not saying f1 guys are not fit, but body tyoe matters much less compared to elite athletics. Take for example Tia Toomey she would guaranteed be stronger and fitter than any male motorsport guy in the world, just a matter of time.
However much I love racing, and watching other women excel at it, we are just not built for F1. A woman would have to alter her physicality to an extent greater than a body builder to be able to handle those cars. We could create a female division and be realistic of our individual capabilities.
Women are physically different to men. They tend to be smaller and lighter than their male counterparts hence why in so many sports the two sexes are divided for the sake of fairness. If women and men were allowed to drive together the women would have an advantage in this case. I think they need to promote the hell out of the W series. Run it along side The men and call it F1 W as well.
@@Pub4si Since when was G Force gender dependent. There are female air force pilots. That stuff can be trained. W Series drivers are essentially driving F3 cars
@@EthanRom "There's about 1,000,000 miles difference between an F3 and an F1! Fighter pilots have suits specifically designed to mitigate G-Forces, and it's nothing like the same thing anyway. Air force pilots aren't taking 5-g curves 50 times an hour are they? And they experience those g-forces vertically (down the spine) which are far easier to cope with. F1 is lateral (front and back, left and right). Far harder to cope with, especially when it's for sustained periods like in a race. It's a silly silly comparison...
F1 teams? Look at W-Series? Jamie Chadwick. There, that was hard. She's the only one. And she's totally unproven. Did mildly OK (4th) in the Asian F3 series. She's in Indy Lights this year so we'll get a better idea of whether she has any mileage in a competitive series.
Female Drivers are sexy and would look great in Formula E Gen 3 if not Formula 1. The svelte eye catching look of the Gen3 cars would fit female drivers like a glove. It would be great to have a Female Pilot in F1. Much needed ingredient to spice up race day.
Core strength difference between man and female of same weight in same training is between 40-45% in favor of men.. END (period) WOKE and DIVERSITY policies will kill western culture at the end. As far as endurance is concerned, the situation is much more favorable for women, and that is why we have seen all the successful women in motor sports in competitions that last several days or weeks, Rally (Michèle Mouton) and DAKAR (Jutta Kleinschmidt). What's next ? You will fight for the right of men to give birth to twins ( Junior (1994 film) )
So get the 2 best f2 or f3 female drivers , put them in a f1 car and let them compete . Put I would upgrade the pits and pit lane .. bigger and much wider ..
That's what the video is saying. After you win the W series it's not clear if you graduate to F3 or what. The system should be more clear about the progression. It should be W - F3 - F2 - F1
Hey dude, so if F1 is about the pinnacle of racing and if women - generally - are not the best racers, wouldn't that add up to - almost - no women in F1? Just asking...
When the perpetually offended get a hold of this, watch out for the cringe. Ashley Force should end the debate about "women drivers" and let's just start calling them "DRIVERS"... ffs.
Curious which male drivers you guys would suggest be moved from F1 to the W Series I mean after all “what is more shocking is 0 of the 18 drivers on the grid are male” whats paths have been created for young boys to get into the W series. Good job dragging up years old comment from Perez nice little underhand effort to stir up a mob or what? We already know RedBull has thin skin the reaction to Vipps shows that.
f1 is about stats and performance!!If they have the talent and have been tested and proven let me race,otherwise even for talented male drivers some never get into f1.Let them make their history like rally legend Michele.
If women is as good as the men, why not? I would like to see women in F1 but they need to be equally competitive with the other drivers regardless of gender or race. Don't just put them in an F1 seat for the sake of diversity, put them on because they deserve it and got the merits for it.
Spikey..I hear you/ totally agree
Yes they have to win the Formula 2 championship like the rest. Nobody is saying that they get to skip the line
@@EthanRom verdtappen skipped f2
@@mrjuice4714 Yea my bad, I should have said as long as they do all the necessary steps to get their super license
Michele Mouton is a great example of an incredible driver, was fairly fast in rally but also won Le Mans. Those aren’t easy feats
I am all for it if they are good. In my opinion any sport (F1 included) should be about the elite of the elite fighting for wins. We already have paid drivers so having paid drivers and forced female drivers will not be fun to watch. I will say to eliminate paid drivers and let the best of the best race
The 1966 movie 'Grand Prix' says it best- there's only some 25 in the world qualified to drive in F1, out of those 6 my win & of those 2 may win the Championship. We see gals get on track in 12/24 hr races & act like it's a Sunday drive while a race is going on. Then come the men... Not all get to run 100m at Olympics', just the fastest.
Seems like most of y'all missed the point of the video. He literally stated SEVERAL times it's not about putting average females in F1 just to look good, but to support female drivers the same way male drivers are supported and encouraged often from a young age.
bro shut up, F1 has been a male sport for over 80 years and that is simply a fact, it would be just wrong to include women into it, also because probably none of them could ever even get to p20,
@@RiccardoMargiotta-vz3iv SiMpLy A fAcT... wtf r u talking abt dude? u guys are just being narcissist about everything as always!
Just because it has been a male dominated sport for decades it means women being part of it is wrong. The reason drivers are male is not because they f1 is a male sport itis because men had the opportunity to take part in it.
The likes of Zhou Guanyu Logan Sargeant are literally only in the sport because of marketing. Do you really think they would be above putting in a less than stellar female driver if it means they get more money?
what a weirdo@@RiccardoMargiotta-vz3iv
If she can pull 6 Gs, 4 times a lap, for 60 laps, for 22 races a year, and has $Ms of financial backing, then let her in...
In order to join F1 you need to have skills (except mazepin and stroll) so it's not about diversity is about skills
Having a rich daddy is a skill your born with 🤣
Don’t forget Latifi
It’s mainly about money, if racing were purely about skills then I’d be somewhere in Motorsport. Racing is unfortunately just for spoiled rich kids who had their parents give up millions just to get them there
you seem to forget that he acutally won the F2 championship lol. just playing devils advocate here.
Not always about Rich parents Stroll is ok driver and so is Norris both have rich parents and so do a lot of other drivers. Its about talent and it will always shine through in the end.
Just focus on performance. Not on races or genders or even age. It's really that simple.
That is what they are saying, but the problem is, no one is looking at their performances. Too male orientated and good female drivers are being overlooked.
@@BatMan-oe2gh name 1 female driver who is good enough for f1 at present ?
@@deanoq Jamie Chadwick.
@@BatMan-oe2gh not a chance
@@deanoq So you are a Misogynist then. She has won the first two seasons and won 7 races in a row this season. She should be given an opportunity in F3 to see if she is any good. Same as young guys getting a chance in F3, like Oscar. But plenty of guys have raced in F3 and F2 and not made the main game as not really good enough. And that is what I am talking about and the Video is talking about, lack of Opportunities. But of course people like you expect them to be the best before they get a chance.
The best female driver Jamie Chadwick is in W series and won everything she could, then she got put in f3 and got beaten by literally everyone alive, get good instead of crying bc you aren’t a male
Everyone always wanna say it’s because no one wants to allow girls, no it’s because they aren’t as good and it would be boring
Jeezus😭
Totally agreed this shit of diversity in sport to satisfy audiences and this cultural generation robs the hard working and talented drivers if they ever were to forcefully inject women in the sport . . .understandably if they were able to drive better then obviously they should be allowed in f1 but they shouldnt be given a free pass into the sport and go through the same challenges as everyone else
😂😂😂😂
It is true, get fast, than come back. F1 teams in the end are businesses, thus they need to make money, that is done with winning, getting points and if the person drives at the back, getting lapped twice... Its not going to happen
It is not about gender. It is about talent.
Well its also about gender, biologically men are superior
tell that to Stroll..🤦
Nah men are brave
@@minimalrandombrave in what and with evidence you sexiste
Agreed 💯. These cars are damn fast
1st F3, F2 and then F1 .. there are no shortcuts
Unless you're Max, then you go from F3 to F1.
@@Guust_Flater Maybe the people in the know, knew.
Just like maybe the people in the know, know there's no decent female drivers around.
I look at Juju Noda from Japan and how her dad manages her racing career in 2024 with F1 as her goal. She only did F1 Academy once and is now focusing on Super Formula, competing with men since it gives her a better shot. And since finances is always a big deal, she has garnered sponsors so she can compete in different EU races to get a feel on other tracks. Props to her dad who had her skip on female-only programs because it really leads nowhere.
Thankyou for your comments, Juju is a force behind the wheel, followed her for a long time...w.end just gone in Boss GP , podiums but no recognition by the sporting know all British media...because she doesn't fit their agenda in pushing through media only British drivers. A matter of fact, she beat the 2023 f2 champion in her first Super Formula race , having said that they are racing young veterans of SF but given a bit she will be fighting at the top because she's got what it takes. 🍻🍻🦘
Did Lewis help any of the girl to support the financial part of their racing career? He seems to 'care' so much by making all the positive comments. These girls need more than just F1 champions encouragement and good wishes, they need sone kind of financial support, racing is expensive.
Lewis doesn’t deserve to win anymore races.
You are either good enough to attract attention by a team (and by 'attract', I mean capable of winning) or you are not.
Forcing a team or an agenda on "Get Women into F1" will only turn away people who will interpret this not as "these are the best drivers" but as "these are the drivers we think are the best".
Not the same thing.
All you have to do is be one of the best drivers in the world. If a women isn't that then oh well, just get better
Its not a token gesture if they're good enough. Its the same thing with the WNBA in the sense that nobody cares about another league just for women if the product is inferior. It's not sexist its just the truth that men are bigger, stronger, faster and thus produce a more watchable game, match, race. It should be based on merit and ability not trying to make everyone feel included. Im 6'4" and am an excellent driver and would also love to be a F1 driver, where's the league with taller cockpits so I can feel included. FOH
Whoa, the comment section is quite biased here..
Hypothetically speaking i wouldn't want to be there because i'm a women I'd want want to be there because I'm a good racer
If they are good enough, they’ll be on the grid. A good driver is the main priority for any team so I highly doubt any team will go out of their way to make sure women don’t get a seat
These kind of discussions always make it sound like there's 5 woman out there that can compete for an F1 World Championship but there's teamdirectors out there who say: LOL Nope you're female, you're not allowed in F1. But we all know that's not the case at all..
If you're good enough to make it to F1, you'll make it to F1, regardless of whatever diversity group you belong to
If they are good enough then they should be there. That’s it.
No Equity adjustments,
No Diversity quotas,
No Inclusivity demands.
i personally think the winner of the W series should be given a drive in F3 or even F2, but do i think they would be competitive in F1? no because i think they would struggle with physicality of driving an F1 car. Danica Patrick was a very good driver in IndyCar but F1 is a very different beast, 100% give them every opportunity to reach F1 and prove themselves and if that one or two very special woman are out there that can match the lap times then yes give them the shot but i dont think they would handle the G forces
No. You shouldn't get a shortcut, just because of your gender. W Series is below F3. You either prove you are worthy, or you don't.
@@mikepenman1432 The girls in the W series are lapping faster than F3. I have been watching and they are pretty good. They deserve the chance to go into F3 and see how they go from there.
@@mikepenman1432 i was under the impression the cars in the W series were very similar to F3 but you are correct it would still be a shortcut as the drivers are definitely at a higher level in F3 vs W series
Wrong about the physical side mate. At the Bathurst 1000 in Australia, the Women have done all right doing the 6 hours and 1000 Kms. Problem was they were not in cars good enough to keep up. In the Australian V8 Supercars we have had Women and they have done well. Manhandling a 1300 KG car with little Aero assistance and no ABS or TC at all, plus using s stick shift. And they lapped as fast as the guys. These girls have the strength and ability. Start young and you develop the necessary strength and endurance to drive fast.
@@BatMan-oe2gh Dude you can't compare V8 supercars to F1, a V8 supercar drivers neck would quite literally give out after a few laps, look at every F1 drivers neck their massive just got hold ya know your 13lbs head at 6-7G's your head is weighing nearly 70lbs at that G Force. V8s can get a max of like 2g while cornering and 3 while breaking. Not in the same league
Jenson Button beat Hamilton in 2011 so get your facts straight.
It should be about equal opportunity, not forced diversity.
I can’t stand hearing about “diversity” in the sport. The sport is p2p; want diversity? Then financially back someone who is diverse. Plenty of black, South American, middle eastern, Asian billionaires out there. They aren’t funding drivers who look like them tho.
As a brown dude, I agree. Tbh, hearing anything about “diversity” im sports bugs me. I want the best of the best playing the sport I watch - couldn’t care less about how they look.
All the crying about lack of diversity needs to stop. I don’t complain about the lack of diversity when i watch black shows on BET.
Imagine Lawrence saying: I'm sorry Fernando, I want an all Stroll team, you're reserve, Chloe's going to take the 2nd main seat.
There can be women in form you a one. It's about talent and not aboutt gender. There have been female Formula 1 drivers in the past. But it's not about feminizing the sport, Whether you're a female or a male and a good Racer is what counts. F1 is physically demanding and if you're female and can meet that requirement so be it just because your female doesn't mean you can't do it, it's not about gender.
well, Women can have there own F1 series. if they don't climb up the F ladder with F4,F3,F2 and so on.
Nothing needs to be "more inclusive." Either let women race or not. If they're good they get a contract, seems pretty straight forward to me.
Even women that arent feminists agree that men and womens sports are completely different. They are different physical human beings. The current F1 grid isnt even the best of the best, and you can always find another man thats faster. Look Im all for woman in F1 if they are good enough.
I finding most of the male commentators on here saying the same thing, Oh if Good enough they will get a drive, well how do they get that chance if they are not given the opportunity to prove themselves.
@@BatMan-oe2gh thats not how it works. You have to be really impressive just to get a chance to show the big teams that you are indeed impressive. Look at Nyck de vries. Did all he could won f2 and fe. Still only today got a chance to show what he could do because albon got sick. The whole f1,2,3,4 is an exclusive sport. Also being very expensive so yes you need backing.
One thing about F1 is that women definitely are capable of being as good as men unlike physical sports. If there were as many women interested in F1, it would very much be a coed sport. Like imagine the odds of making F1 and being successful is like 0.025%, if you throw a thousand men at that, you're going to get at least one that's good enough, but now you only put at most, let's say a dozen women, you can't really expect one of them to be good. The odds are just too low.
@@NoCluYTYour statement about odds is true and correct, however, it in no way proves (or even supports) your other statement that women are capable of being as good as men at F1. There are mental skill differences in genders too: Women are less spacially aware, worse at judging speed, and have slower reaction times (all scientific facts). That's in general, but there is no reason to believe it won't be reflected in the highest levels of talent as well. F1 is also extremely physical, so that does come into it too. Try sitting in a sauna while having 4g exerted on your head. You'd almost certainly pass out.
@@pugpete1there’s no scientific evidence showing that women have slower reaction time and etc.
Yuki is carabian ??? Damn didn't know they moved JAPAN !!
Should be the best person for any job including F1
Ethnic diversity of the grid is poor.. Statements like that are really an issue to me.... Not that I'm against equality and representation for all .. Infact I'm all for it as the more that are included the better the potential for better races, matches, etc etc.. But we can't blame an ethnic group, race or certain sex for this.. Not in todays Times.. There are many many wealthy people and businesses in this world.. Not just white men....if these other races, Ethnic groups were interested in racing there is no reason or anything stopping them from creating, financing or sponsoring their own teams or families or their own ethnic groups or religious groups.
Equal oppurtunity for women as for anyone race, gender or religion should be a given but life is not a hand out.. It takes commitment, sacrifice, luck and someone to contribute financially based on your potential... But you have to prove that.. No one is going to come looking for you
You don't want to use logic with these people, their brains might melt.
The implication here that "only white men make money and therefore only white men make it big" is so laughable it's depressing.
It's a sign that the video maker(s) have never ever been out into the world and seen the variety of countries filled with the uber-rich. It says more about them than it does about society's inability to be "equal".
Why aren’t there any male drivers in W series? BC ITS FOR FEMALE ONLY, don’t act like f1 is sexist
It has to be created as a starting point for women. Use your brain. Common sense.
F1 is sexist still racist and only a rich participant sport basically.
Latifi and Schumacher need to try to join... They could become competitive then.... Maybe.
How many drivers are female in all motorsport ?, i believe the number is tiny and when you look at the number of drivers in F1 the percentage chance of female driver getting a seat is so small. A female driver needs to compete / win in the lower classes just as current F1 drivers may have done unless of course bank of dad is still aviliable simple really.
If they are good then they can get it through talent not just because they are women
I think you missed the point of the video. No one is saying just to put them in the seat to tick a box. The point is to provide funding, representation and opportunities for young girls from karting age. That would help to get them into f1 with the same skills as the men coming in
@@bekkylouise3896 no one is saying not to provide funding for women...only point is they should be interested and should have the talent to come through
@@darshang1262 I completely agree. All I’m saying is is they they need to have opportunities from a young age and representation so that young girls have someone to look up to who looks like them :)
@@bekkylouise3896 we all know what they are doing now is not what it was intended
I'm just a bad driver. Why isn't anyone trying to equalize down to include my diversity?
Because they are trying to bridge the gap between “equality of opportunity” and “equality of outcomes”.
@@Carlos559Caps But, equality of outcomes is brainless and can never happen.
Equality of outcomes would do exactly what the OP is suggesting.
You'd have to include every religion (or the Zoroastrians will moan), every body shape (or the fattos will moan), every age (or the oldies will moan), every hair colour (or the gingers will moan), every area of the world (or the Pacific Islanders of Kiribati will moan), every colour, every sex, every background...
Good luck trying to find the 7ft 6in grey transgender 70-year-old Jew from Fiji just to tick that final box...
@@PA-lf8sd yea but you see none of that matters in the grand scheme of things to those who preach “equality of outcome”. I fully get your point and agree totally. Equality of outcome is a joke.
It is perfectly understandable and definitely not shocking at all that the 20 best drivers in the world are men and there are no women in F1.
There aren't even any women in F2 or F3 getting race wins.
They can't compete with males when it comes to the fitness, stamina, reflexes, ability to absorb so much gforce for the extended period of time to drive a Grand Prix.
Much like there are no women playing Tennis in the men's comp etc.
I'm not saying there are no talented women drivers, just no women drivers capable of beating the top 20 males in an F1 car over a Grand Prix distance.
We can't just put women in the sport for the sole sake of including them. If there is a female driver fit enough and consistently fast enough to compete with the men, then yes let them race.
Michèle Mouton search her up
@@recorderknight1559 the one exception does not make the rule. She was a beast for sure but was never in F1.
20 best drivers? There are 182 platinum drivers none of them is female
@@recorderknight1559 you are comparing cars from 40yrs ago and not even an F1 car but a highly modified sedan rally car to a modern F1 car? dont get me wrong there are some amazing women drivers out there but very very few in the top level of any motorsport category
Short version:if they can be competitive, then let them in
Go to any kindergarten and ask the mixed class about cars, how many kids would raise their hands saying they like cars? How many do you assume are boys and how many do you assume are girls? Males are typically way more interested in sports than females, some sports might be popular among women but motorsports ratio of interest is probably one of the most male dominant. Furthermore, only 20 drivers are in formula 1 per season. It is a costly sport, not everyone is able to put their kids on a kart to learn the ropes early on, not every kid who's passionate about karts gets the sponsorship which allows them to pursue their dreams further, it's hard for anyone to get into formula 1. Besides, talent is also a huge factor and males are proven to be superior to females in the physical aspect. Have reaction times been tested between highly competitive men vs women?
This crying about "equal representation" everywhere is starting to piss me off. I wonder when will youtube start promoting videos talking about the lack of female representation in the mining fields or construction sites.
Before women were allowed to be astronaut's and jet fighter pilots how could they get the opportunity? Now there are women doing so and are top in those fields.
@@trance9158 Unless you are able to cite the rule which prohibits women from racing in motorsports, your example fails to constitute an argument.
@@don8duarte there's ample room for argument in the article I just posted.
@@trance9158 Can you link it to me?
It's crazy that continents who can't even make cars don't have elite F1 drivers
oh wait
Exactly! Europe invents F1, it's mega-rich and it's all self-made, but of course Europe should put everything on a plate for the poor not-haves...
Ah yes Lewis Hamilton, a white European male 😂
Sooo.....the series that claims to be the tip of the spear as far as technology and skill should allow drivers that are not the highest qualified and fastest drivers in the world. I argue that paid drivers should be removed. They're taking seats that in my opinion significantly better drivers could fill. To say F1 SHOULD have female drivers is ridiculous. If they're fast enough they would be in f1 already.
Did you not watch the video? Until 2019 there was no way the Girls could get in because of the way F1 was set up by men. The opportunity has not been there. Now they have the W Series and Jamie is doing well and lapping as fast as the guys in F2, yet has not been given an opportunity in a F1 car, even a Track day such as testing.
So Jamie has 15 Super Points on her Licence to drive and could have more if given more opportunities at testing and track days. I find most of the male commentators on here saying the same thing, Oh if Good enough they will get a drive, well how do they get that chance if they are not given the opportunity to prove themselves.
@@BatMan-oe2gh what are you on about, Jamie has not won a F3 or a F2 championship to have any f1 team bat an eye, quite literally every single driver on that F1 grid has won F2 or GP2 for formula 3000 series championships and got their big break through because of it, if Jamie did as well she would have been a f2 graduate alongside Tsunoda and Schumi for 2021 and WOULD have had the chance at an f1 seat. But you wouldn’t know that by statistic and career data and only decided by saying because she’s a woman she can’t get a chance to be in F1 and blame the W series themselves for not giving the female racers the same dallara chassis with the Mecachrome V634 turbo v6 that you find in F2 chassis. Maybe they wouldn’t be lapped buy the same guys that are already acclimated with the machinery…except…Ragunathan…anyway..you at-ill can’t even use the excuse of until 2019, because Jamie participated in the British F3 series and did not win the championship
@@ThePandasian34 I did not say that, cant you read? I said she should be given the opportunity.
@@BatMan-oe2gh Opportunities are earned not given, every driver that has tested for an F1 team has been a top tier performer and almost certainly at the top of the development program of their respective team, something Jamie is far away from being.
@@VitoScorcesse How do we know if they are not given any opportunity? Females have competed in F1 and done all right, just in the wrong teams. And I look at Drivers on the grid now that have not even gotten a podium even after 50 or 60 races. So as Jamie has not even been given an opportunity in F3, we will never know how good she could be. Females have raced in many other series and done OK. And earned? I know of drivers who only got a seat because either Dad paid for it, or they brough sponsorship with them, and still not performed very well.
I don't believe that f1 is intentionally keeping women out of seats. Talent, financial backing and partnerships, outright pace and technical feedback abilities is.
It’s simply that men and women are different. F1 is a physical sport, men and women don’t compete on the same levels
They have the W series, can a fella drive in that.
Diversity is not a problem to be solved. This is a world were teams pay for the best performance they can get. From drivers to engineers. If you are the best, you'd be hired. That's how this works. So far the women drivers in other classes have not been good enough to break in. Understand that there's a large field of drivers that are good enough for F1 and never get a shot because there's a very limited field and/or their dad isnt named Stroll.
Yep, it's like they want to drag the level of everything down just so that women can pretend they're equal. For me it's mindless.
People crying about lack of diversity need to find something else to watch.
David Coulthard has the right idea, AND it needs to be picked up and embraced at ALL levels of motorsport so that from children carting, THROUGH to F1 and other series such as WEC WRC ELMS SUPERGT and others, allow competition that is not segregated: therefore any gender can race in any series should be unbroken from the bottom to the top, in this way allowing the best of the best along all of these progressive steps rise to the top regardless of gender, or race. Then and ONLY then will the whole SYSTEM be fair in allowing fair competition and support to the best drivers throughout their careers leading them to whichever type and level of competition they can achieve.
Do you go to the man category of any other sport and whine about the lack of diversity?
Yes, they do; even though in almost every one of them the female sport is almost entirely subsidized by the male sport, AND in almost every female sport the elite women are easily bested by men who arent good enough to make it (or 15 year old boys in the case of the World Cup winning US Women's Team). Instead of crying that there's not enough diversity because women just aren't physically strong/powerful enough to compete at high levels of men's sports, they should either find strategies to beat the physicality of the men, or create entertaining sports that benefit their lower centre of gravity and agility... Roller Derby would actually be an excellent example of this if the overwhelming majority of leagues weren't run by women who outright refuse to take any learning from men's sports to aid them towards success.
@@BruceDoesStuff Sports like F1 were designed by men for men. To attract women viewers, women should go back to their first principles and design sports representing the gatherer's approach to bearing risks rather than the hunter's approach. There will always be individuals breaching this dichotomy, which is fine, but being blind to the overwhelming statistics is lose-lose for everyone involved. You die much more likely by not embracing your approach, which kind it is is secondary. (Hunter - single big chunk of risk, get up and repeat, gatherer - risk is spread across small commitments that have to be consistent)
At present there isn't anyone good enough coming through.
If you take the backing out of it. Where drivers are racing on merit. They're isn't any female drivers showing that ability.
I'm not sayin that women ain't good enough but the current crop ain't got that extra 10%.
But surely it comes to grassroots at home. Back then it was dolls and kitchens for girls and building blocks and cars for boys.
I watch all forms of Motorsport there is women in other classes doing well but they still ain't as good as there male counterparts. The only woman I know that's done well is Danica Patrick.
I don't want women on track unless it's done on merit where she is good enough. And if she has the backing she better be bloody good.
Thing is there is nothing to stop woman getting into f1, you just have to be good enough
Two reasons for lack of diversity in motorsports(specifically F1, but can apply to others):
-women aren't very interested in general
-you need to be pretty wealthy to get in which locks out most racial minorities anyways
Is this really important to fans or just a thing for the media?
It's a thing for wet vaginas to wail about, just like they'll be wailing about some ethnic problem tomorrow and some trans problem the day after.
I reckon men that do this shit are just virtue-signalling to try and get laid.
Except, what self-respecting woman would date a fucking wetto whining on about diversity and female rights constantly...?
I've never driven an F1 car, or anything similar, but considering how much drivers of these cars train physically, it must require some level of strength. If you look at other physical sports in which men and women compete (track, tennis, etc.) you will see that the BEST women cannot compete against the best men. I'm not being 'sexist' but realistic. Having said that, there have been some exceptions at Indianapolis and in NASCAR, but I'm not sure those types of races are comparable. I'd love to see it, but it has to be based on talent and performance not by using identity as EVERYTHING else seems to be today!
best example is all the TRANS WOMEN, for example this swimmer... been a male for 20+ years, competed as one of the weaker with men and then suddenly wanted to be a woman and compete against FEMALES.... and was literally chilling and was still miles ahead of all the females... thats damn fair right?
Wrong about the physical side mate. At the Bathurst 1000 in Australia, the Women have done all right doing the 6 hours and 1000 Kms. Problem was they were not in cars good enough to keep up. In the Australian V8 Supercars we have had Women and they have done well. Manhandling a 1300 KG car with little Aero assistance and no ABS or TC at all, plus using s stick shift. And they lapped as fast as the guys. These girls have the strength and ability. Start young and you develop the necessary strength and endurance to drive fast. Problem is like the video said, Jamie winning 2 seasons in a row, and yet can not get a seat in F3 to see if she is good enough, or even getting track time in a F1 car to test them.
You got a point,f1 car does need lot of physical strength, and we know woman body are just generally have less muscles mass and are weaker,might be wrong but maybe current f1 car physical strength are way to much for a woman
@@alttt751 Women flying Jet Fighters show they can have the strength and handle the G Forces. Plenty of women around that are stronger then men. And the F car is not a strength driving, it is fitness. The men are not weight lifters or bulked up with massive muscles. And the Car is easy to steer, you don't need a lot of strength to turn the wheel. otherwise even the men would be worn out after an hour.
@@BatMan-oe2gh "Plenty of women around that are stronger then men."
Yes...but that's a really really daft thing to say, because we're not talking generally are we? We're talking about the extremes - athletes at the top. Show me one woman who is stronger than a male top-level athlete.
Go woke go broke!
Boycott bud light and Ben Jerry ice cream
Who is from the Caribbean? Checo? He is from Mexico. Mexico is a Latinamerican and North American country, not from the Caribbean.
Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk.
They're claiming that Lewis Hamilton, born, brought up and funded in the UK, is now Caribbean. You can't make this shit up, it's too dumb for words...
The only lack of diversity I see is a lack of diversity in critical thinking. The drivers with the greatest ability tend to rise to the top. Nothing stopping someone from asia, south america, africa etc. from winning F4, F3, F2 and F1 if they have the talent (and funding as is the case for EVERY driver in motorsport). Whats between their legs, or what color their skin is makes no difference, but their strength to push down that heavy break pedal might, as too their hand eye etc. Its not a matter of gender, its a matter of physical make up which will skew the odds in favor of males.
Perhaps we should also work towards more diversity in the 100m Mens Sprint at the Olympics? make that grid 'diverse'? less of these super fast dark skinned people, and more of the slower white skinned people and women of course. Yeah, a 100m Mens final with 50% women and 50% white, that sounds fair right? thats why people watch it right to see diversity over the fastest and most impressive human beings on the planet, right? That makes about as much sense as picking F1 drivers based on skin color or gender. Keep politics out of sport IMO, let the best person win.
i would not mind female drivers in F1, however the fact is that in F1 especially money talks. And most, if not all, of the current female drivers just dont have the right sponsors of funds to enter F1. We saw a couple of them try their hand at F3 in the past but none of them got any points, which is why at the end of it all W series was created. The problem with that series is that their cars are even slower than F3 cars, they are just above karting really in performance. I watched a W series race once and it was boring AF to watch, nothing ever really happened and they were going so slow around the track that i almost fell asleep. Maybe its an endurance problem, F1 is after all the toughest racing sport on ones body to endure, G forces alone can get pretty high on some tracks so that may also contribute to the lack of female drivers in F1. I do think though that a W series champions at least should get a spot in at least F3 and then it would be on them to perform to get to F2 and maybe even F1. W series not having a step up point right now really is a big issue
Europe is not a country. Why would you say rest of the drivers are European. Like Europe is not A melting pot of countries cultures and people. Diversity shouldn’t be the reason why anyone is included. The only reason you should be included in f1 is because you’re fast.
This whole diversity thing baffles me, if you’re not good enough then you just aren’t good enough, no matter your gender or race, you can’t just put someone in a car based off of gender or race because they’ll come last every single race because there not good enough
"(none are women)...That just can’t be correct."
Why not...? Why does everyone assume that if there's no women then there's something wrong? It really worries me that anyone thinks like this.
"...the rest are white European..."
It's almost as if you need to be rich and/or have rich contacts to get into F1. It's almost as if Europe is one of the richest areas on the planet. If Africa wants a driver, why don't they build massive corporations, make a shit load of money and finance an African driver, the same way the Chinese have done, and the same way the Mexicans have done, the same way the Thais have done, the same way the Canadians have done, the same way the Brazilians have done...?
White European descent. Show picture of Hamilton... Lmao.
I mean... yes. He's of White European descent. Did you forget mixed race people exist?
Please stop
If a woman is fast enough, she will be in F1. What brand wouldn't want to be associated with the first F1 female driver thats there based on merit? It's a PR gold mine.
“It is beyond belief that of the 20 best drivers of the world, none of them are female. That just can’t be correct”
It’s really not a complex concept. Men and women ARE different and in the world of sports there will always be situations exactly like this.
also 20 isnt a very big sample set, its far more believable to be correct if it was 100 rather than 20
@@chrisvenn4827 exactly. Seems women are in basically every other possible position within an F1 team besides the drivers. Forced diversity/equity type approaches to things just ruin everything
Bro it's driving, this isn't a combat sport or MMA. This sport should be unisex
@@EthanRom poor reasoning. It’s not just combat sports that lack parity between the sexes.
@@Carlos559Caps I'm just saying this is one of the sports where physicality isn't a big issue. Look at Yuki (love him) dude is 5'3. They should be taking advantage of it. This is one of the stupid things our society has done with so much separation between the two. Look at chess even that is split into male and female and it doesn't make sense anymore
This is a typical " Why do women live longer?This is why" example
Very rich saying that what has to be the most expensive sport in the world needs to be more diverse
Who on the grid is Caribbean? Only Caribbean driver I know of is Zane Maloney. And he is in F3.
Definitely not Yuki
Apparently Mexico is not part of North America.
It's the UK-born, UK-brought-up and UK-funded LH.
About as Caribbean as I am...
They're missing the point. Of course there's talented women motorsport stars already.
Women should have their own F3/F2/F1 categories for women just as there is womens football, womens darts, womens rugby.
Be realistic and support them in their own series.
This is exactly the kind of video that I don’t watch.
Why are we even talking about this. F1 is not just being good at driving cars, people tend to forget how physical it is. Fucking hell, as much as we like to pretend we are equal in sports, its simply not true. There are not a lot of men that can handle driving an F1 car for a full race, there are even less women, and what's the chance of the few that can handle the physical aspect, one of them is also a top racing driver to even be considered for the F1?
sergio perez funny af
that was such a dick move..
Motorsport would be more diverse if talent was the number one talking point, but instead people only seem to care about money. It shouldn’t matter who someone is, if they’re good enough then they should be celebrated as a great driver, not for being something they were born as. We’d already probably have a female driver or two that are possibly fairly fast in F1 but it will probably never happen if the sport only cares about money… it’s the stupid and unfortunate reality, F1 would also be a lot more exciting to watch because it would be filled with by far the fastest drivers ever, rather than it being fast drivers who make tens of millions a year when some shouldn’t be there
Why do you assume women can't have the money to back a woman....?
Plenty of rich women out there - they could champion a female driver easily.
Maybe women in general don't give a fuck about F1. Maybe there's no women good enough to be championed...?
In any case, what if it was just based on talent - like a league system where you get promotion and relegation, but still no women got to F1?
What excuse would you roll out then...?
@@PA-lf8sd also the “ excuse “ would simply be that they haven’t found a women anywhere near fast enough to compete. It’s very simple to understand. Look at Jamie Chadwick, sure she’s quick in W series but tests have shown that she’d be probably even slower than Latifi, you really think it would make any logical sense to put someone in a series where you have the fastest drivers in the world but said person most likely isn’t even good enough to get any points. Use logic and common sense…
Women at a high competitive racing level are smart. They don’t want to die.
They need a women’s series that’s a better car than an F3 car. That way, F2 teams will have an easier choice.
How they do in F2 is a good way to get in.
we don't need another Danica Patrick! we already have Latifi to cause collisions.
Danica Patrick was a solid driver.
never
not for the lack of talent , but for the lack of raw strength and stamina .
Just as in any other sport .
Just look it up here in youtube and see how well woman do against man when strength and stamina are a deciding factor .
activism and social warrior justice is not the way to go
F1 doesn't care what you look like. it cares if you can drive fast.
Probably the same thing that men think of female drivers out on the road. 😆
There will never be a female in F1 without some sort of manufactured sponsorship or handout (Think Haas and Mazepin with URAL). Complaining about this is like complaining that there isn't a female in the Top 20 in Sprinting or Weightlifting. The physical tolls alone would almost ensure that there will be a male more qualified for an F1 ride over a female. F1 drivers in addition to being exceptional drivers are also Top flight athletes. Small guys that are super strong with endurance. Apples to Apples those are highs that females cannot reach
just look at skill, i dont care if that means we will never see a women. its the only way for everyone to have an equal chance
This is a very well put together video
"They are in their mid-20s, that means 2023-20 = 1980".
They grew up in the mid-2000s.
Have a gal jump on a motorcycle & race 'Isle of Mann TT'... If racing is so easy gals, go out & "JUST DO IT".
There's only been 1 in 100 years of the tt and she stopped because of the danger once she got a top 10 result she was done in her eyes she had proven a point and no one has bothered again
I am a very minor league kart racer and I've been trying to make my way up but it ain't happening due to money and also female drivers taking all the major league spots and yes I do think its a good idea its just not fair how all of a sudden. They wanna be anti sexist but now younger dudes like me don't have a shot anymore
I just wonder if there gets to a certain point where the physicality and speed of the top leagues may be too much for a woman with the best ingenuity to make up. While I do not have an idea of the pressures and physical demand F1 exerts on the body, there is ultimately physical differences. One of the less known details other than muscle mass, bone thickness, etc. is that the male eye is netter at quick pace and tracking at distance while a female eye has more strengths in discerning colors. Just to make it clear I'm not saying women are bad drivers, just there might be different biological limitations as we get to certain speeds where knowledge and talent can't overcome. I may be wrong as this is just speculation from just my biological knowledge and I guarentee those women are better racers than 99% of men, but these sports are the pinnacle of sports were the smallest advantage can be critical, even our visual "programming".
Women will get there just like top gun female pilots, having the advantage of a lighter body (less g's exposure) and also a shorter heart to brain distance, which also helps in large g manoeuvres. If anyone starts karting at 5 years old they will learn the tricks of the trade. Especially in something like driving that is not the same as pure athletic sports like boxing or the 100m sprint or marathon in which genetics and body composition play a much larger role in being the right type to win. Not saying f1 guys are not fit, but body tyoe matters much less compared to elite athletics. Take for example Tia Toomey she would guaranteed be stronger and fitter than any male motorsport guy in the world, just a matter of time.
However much I love racing, and watching other women excel at it, we are just not built for F1.
A woman would have to alter her physicality to an extent greater than a body builder to be able to handle those cars.
We could create a female division and be realistic of our individual capabilities.
tf since when did car driving have to do with body building💀
Women are physically different to men. They tend to be smaller and lighter than their male counterparts hence why in so many sports the two sexes are divided for the sake of fairness.
If women and men were allowed to drive together the women would have an advantage in this case.
I think they need to promote the hell out of the W series. Run it along side The men and call it F1 W as well.
It's racing, not MMA or Basketball. No contact. It should be unisex
@@EthanRom there is contact wheel to wheel. women dont have the mental fortitude of the likes of men to near the tailgate type racing.
@@EthanRom Imagine not knowing about G Force LMAO
@@Pub4si Since when was G Force gender dependent. There are female air force pilots. That stuff can be trained. W Series drivers are essentially driving F3 cars
@@EthanRom "There's about 1,000,000 miles difference between an F3 and an F1!
Fighter pilots have suits specifically designed to mitigate G-Forces, and it's nothing like the same thing anyway. Air force pilots aren't taking 5-g curves 50 times an hour are they? And they experience those g-forces vertically (down the spine) which are far easier to cope with. F1 is lateral (front and back, left and right). Far harder to cope with, especially when it's for sustained periods like in a race.
It's a silly silly comparison...
I can see it now there will be a female in F1 not because she's a champion driver it'll be because she's female 🤔😁
Not really, to join Formula 1 you have to at least have Formula 2 experience and usually have to be a champion in it.
Teams should maybe scout in the W series and see if anyone there is worth a seat
F1 teams? Look at W-Series? Jamie Chadwick. There, that was hard.
She's the only one. And she's totally unproven. Did mildly OK (4th) in the Asian F3 series.
She's in Indy Lights this year so we'll get a better idea of whether she has any mileage in a competitive series.
Female Drivers are sexy and would look great in Formula E Gen 3 if not Formula 1. The svelte eye catching look of the Gen3 cars would fit female drivers like a glove. It would be great to have a Female Pilot in F1. Much needed ingredient to spice up race day.
sick!
I could name a driver who got a ride because of ethnic diversity
Zsolt Baumgartner?
Core strength difference between man and female of same weight in same training is between 40-45% in favor of men.. END (period) WOKE and DIVERSITY policies will kill western culture at the end. As far as endurance is concerned, the situation is much more favorable for women, and that is why we have seen all the successful women in motor sports in competitions that last several days or weeks, Rally (Michèle Mouton) and DAKAR (Jutta Kleinschmidt). What's next ? You will fight for the right of men to give birth to twins ( Junior (1994 film) )
I have no issue what gender seat in the sit of the f1 car as long as they can be competitive enough
So get the 2 best f2 or f3 female drivers , put them in a f1 car and let them compete .
Put I would upgrade the pits and pit lane .. bigger and much wider ..
That's what the video is saying. After you win the W series it's not clear if you graduate to F3 or what. The system should be more clear about the progression. It should be W - F3 - F2 - F1
Hey dude, so if F1 is about the pinnacle of racing and if women - generally - are not the best racers, wouldn't that add up to - almost - no women in F1? Just asking...
When the perpetually offended get a hold of this, watch out for the cringe. Ashley Force should end the debate about "women drivers" and let's just start calling them "DRIVERS"... ffs.
Caribbean?
Yeah that’s George Russell. 😂
Yeah, the UK-born, UK-brought-up and UK-funded Lewis is now Caribbean...
Curious which male drivers you guys would suggest be moved from F1 to the W Series I mean after all “what is more shocking is 0 of the 18 drivers on the grid are male” whats paths have been created for young boys to get into the W series. Good job dragging up years old comment from Perez nice little underhand effort to stir up a mob or what? We already know RedBull has thin skin the reaction to Vipps shows that.
f1 is about stats and performance!!If they have the talent and have been tested and proven let me race,otherwise even for talented male drivers some never get into f1.Let them make their history like rally legend Michele.
The stop watch does not lie, if your that good …sex should not play a role.