Americans React To "Jimmy Savile - Crimes That Shook Britain" | NO JUSTICE!!!
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Jonny Rotten called it out decades ago, but he was silenced
I’m so so hoping they review the Johnny Rotten interview !
Still can’t believe that they silenced him ! Imagine how many others too
So did Jerry Sadowitz
Jonny Rotten got banned from the BBC for talking out about this because he refused to apologise and take back what he said.
And Irvine welsh
He was banned by the wonderful BBC I swear BBC Should have been shut down when it became clear the role they played in enabling him now we got all this with ITV. Things have to change we must do better in protecting the children. Thanks for delving into this difficult situation guys ❤
You guys didn't do anything wrong, you just admitted you didn't know what he did. Nothing wrong with that.
And then followed up with a bit of research.
There's quite a few reaction channels that just skim over the videos aren't all that engaged with the content.
Not these lads. They genuinely interested and prepared to jump down the rabbit holes
@@superhans4697yeah I really dislike those channels who will really superficially react and make such mundane comments, almost oblivious to what they are actually watching. These two at least pay attention.
We in the UK didn't know who or what he was either. And that would be an utter monster. The devil. 😈
Everyone in show business in UK allegedly knew but he had such high connections including corrupt police. I’m waiting for another other old famous UK star to kick the bucket because I bet dirt will come out. I watch European and American awful documentaries and none of have been as monstrous as Jimmy Savile.
@Mac-sb5lj, oh, I think we knew, but we didn't know the scale of it just by looking at the man something was sketchy about him
Every person in a position of authority who protected saville should face life sentences.
they are the establishment - the ones that make the law!
Like King Charles?
Bit its still going on everywhere and much worse
@@janeslater8004 I think it's as awful as it's always been but it's been pushed further underground.
In britain 30-40 years ago childrens clubs and sunday schools were filled with paedos. there were no background checks so those places were a haven for them.
Also there were places in London where foster carers would bring children (like a fast food restaurant) and rich people would come and take their pick and rent a child for the weekend!! At least some things have got a little better.
Just like the Catholic church and other denominations. They should all be accounted for and serve long sentences.
Not mentioned in this documentary, but mentioned in others, was the fact he also frequently visited the hospital morgue. Alone. Strong suggestions of necrophilia on top of everything else. Paralysed kids ffs.... no way to fight him off.... Everything. There aren't the words are there - none strong enough.
I was going to mention that very fact. Disgusting monster 😡
@ratsters yes and there’s footage of him and a disabled little girl I don’t think she could talk not sure and she drew a picture of a monster and he said it’s that me I’m not a monster🤦♀️Looking back god love her she was trying to show what he was😢He was hideing in plain site!!🤬🤬
@@welshgirl5330 .....I don't know what to say 😡 Poor, poor wee kid.
@@welshgirl5330I seen that. And the part where he was sitting in the audience in between 2 teenage girls, fondling them in their knickers and he was speaking on camera. Absolutely despicable that no one complained
@@Damon-xr6zf I know buddy it’s vile and disgusting!!! Hiding in plain sight it’s unbelievable when you look back isn’t it!!🤬You know something as well thinking about it,when interviewed about if he gets to heaven or the pearly gates as he said:If I get there and I’m told you can’t come in I’ll say well hang on I got a recites here all I have done and if they still won’t let me in I’ll break their fingers 😳I mean really!!!🤦♀️He was that arrogant he believed even in death if theirs a haven and hell he’d still have a pass because he did charity and raised money!!! I watched one of many Mark William Thomas the police officer in charge of operation Yew Tree that blew this wide open and he said he’d run so far then his RollsRoyce would pick him up🤬So he never even finished his so called marathons conning everyone again!!!! 🤬
As a kid in the 60's my old man always said he was a weirdo and a dangerous person, as it turned out true. A friends wife was one of his victims.
@@no-oneinparticular7264 Same, wanted to go on Jim'll fix it as a kid but my mum knew he was a wrong'un. She was having none of it.
My nan always told us to keep away from "mucky Jimmy Savilles" flat when we went to roundhay park
There's more getting away. Saville 1, Saville 2,3,4,5,6,7 and so on.
@@Amberle73think we all wanted to go on Jim'll fix it
a whole series of sockpuppets making shite up
I very nearly appeared on Jim’ll Fix it when I was 10 years old, I had a researcher come to our house to discuss it, as my letter was one chosen 😐 But thankfully i decided I was far too shy to actually go through with it and I was scared of Jimmy as he really creeped me out! Thank god I changed my mind 😥
Sounds like you had a very narrow escape 🙏🙏
You dodged a bullet. I was a teenager in the 60s in Australia and watched his shows as I loved the British Invasion music. You never know who these creeps are.
Stop lying the researchers don't come to your house FFS 😂😂😂
@@fredinabun1986 I can assure I’m not lying!!!
He was a creepy dude who hoodwinked everybody.other documentarys are available. Jimmy & Peter Sutcliffe certainly put leeds on the map.welcome to Yorkshire.
Well done for tackling this subject. Money doesn't create evil, but it makes it easier for evil to thrive when they have it.
Well said
I'm 67 and my mum and I always found Saville repulsive and could never understand the people adoring him ! Before she died our doubts about him were confirmed, we were right about him all along but not to the unimagineable horror's beyond belief 👿The mainstream (BBC ITV) made people respect and trust Saville, like groomer's they were and still are complicit today.
I agree with you Mary.E ... He always gave me the heebie jeebies, totally creeped me out.. I never liked him.. Ughhhhhhhh.
Gives you reason to question the people most people dislike due to the media's portrayal of them.
The most obvious person that was vilified by the media in recent times is Jeremy Corbyn but when you investigate the facts behind the dirt aimed at him you find that all of the accusations made about him are either false or twisted.
I wonder why the establishment that controls most of the media didn't want a Prime Minister whose main goals in life were to reduce the inequality between the poorest and richest ensuring that the poorest could afford to make a living wage even if it was at the expense of the richest most powerful people in the country.
Especially in hindsight if anyone in their right mind thinks that Jeremy Corbyn would have been worse, more blatantly corrupt or evil than Boris Johnson then you need your friggin head examined
same age didnt really watch or no much about it,but sorry he looked creepy,and i wasnt the only one to say that,little did we know!
@@andreasobuaculla9511 I got interviewed for noels house party and jimm'll fix it in the early 90's at school, but I do remember even the people on the noel edmond thing were fine, the Jim peeps seemed...off even at the time. Must have all been in on it sadly :(
@@marksneddon I think most of us thought he was a bit weird a bit eccentric but deep down a kind generous man, boy were we incredibly wrong, we thought he looked and acted like a nonce but thought surely he wouldn't be so blatant and obvious about it if he actually was one. He hid what he was up to in plain sight.
You should watch Louis Theroux’s doc with Jimmy Savile. There’s a scene where Jimmy openly gropes a teenage fan with her mum in an open restaurant and nobody bats an eyelid… it’s so horrific how open he was with his behaviour and yet he got away with it all his life. Stoke Mandeville Hospital is near where I live, just the thought of what he did in there to patients under the guise of charity makes me sick
He had access to where the dead were? Allegedly.
@@anitahargreaves9526 yip Irvine welsh based a character around the “rumors” (at the time) around him in one of his books (I forget which, I think Ecstasy”
there's that top of the pops clip where he gets handsy with a girl in front of him
He also pretty much confesses to Louis but does it in a way he's not liable.
Louis always regretted not pushing him [saville] further in the programme on hindsight.
Thank you for airing this guys, the more exposure and discussion of this vile individuals behaviour the better. Survivors of evil deeds like this need to know we have their backs
Do we?
@@Argrouknot sure what you mean. Are you saying you dont have their back or that not enough people have their back?
@@ung_anthat Judging by the evidence, we don't have their back, and we are doing nothing to protect kids. We don'y protest, lobby, complain anywhere near enough, we just sit back and say how terrible it is.
@@Argrouk I thought that was what you were saying. Just wasn't sure. 👍
I’m just furious he had a glamorous almost state funeral BEFORE he paid his dues!!!!!! The police had had complaints since about 1960!!!!!!!! Channel 5 isn’t as “good” ( not right word! Netflix Jimmy Savile- A British Horror STORY was more thorough. Have seen this on
Channel 5 without all the copyright blurring pictures. I’d never heard of paedophiles until internet came out but I was groped at 12 by an elderly man on the bus. I don’t think people were arrested in those days ( late 70s/80s).
If you want a deep dive on terrible things that happened in Britain, you could watch a doc on Harold Shipman. He killed HUNDREDS of his own patients. It happened in Hyde, just a few miles from where I grew up. So many of my classmates lost a grandparent or 2 to this monster.
I met him once, at my Dad's retirement party. My Dad had been a GP in an adjacent town and had been on a committee with Shipman. My parents went out to dinner with him and his wife once. My Dad had to give evidence to the inquiry but as 20 years had passed could not remember much. I only remember meeting him because of his beard.
Yeah to be fair crimes that shook Britain is an interesting series
He was my mother in laws local GP in Hyde or somewhere round there
My Grandma knew a lady that was Shipman's patient. She used to think Shipman was a great doctor and had mentioned his manners. Many if his patients were the same.
That's what happens when you have judges, politicians etc backing you up. He was untouchable, disgusting. Makes me feel physically sick thinking about it. And how many of the gang are still out there doing the same, he was just one of them.
Look at Hollywood
Needs to be crushed out of existence ❤
The judges, politicians et al were/are all involved in this evil
@@deblou7 They still are tbf...evil
@@checktheskies5040 Very evil, you only have to look at what the hollywood celebs get up to to realise that there is a satanic agenda at play in this world
Even as a kid back in the 60's, he always gave me the creeps, he was one evil excuse for a human being.
Totally agree
Indeed, I remember thinking there was something weird about him when I was young.
Same here.
The most disgusting thing is the BBC knew what was happening but did nothing about it
The bbc is full of pedos
Not really. Just the abject disbelief that famous rich folk wouldn't do that. Like priest's and school teacher's
Exactly, the BBC were complicit, essentially aided and abetted him. The BBC is no better now. The BBC should have been disbanded and shut down when the whole scandal came to light
@@Penddraig7 They have a statue sculpted by a peado of a man holding a child outside broadcasting house
Couldn’t agree more. They’re a despicable organization
Kudos to you both for watching the entire programme. I'm from Leeds & I was a child in the 70s, when he was at the height of his popularity. Schools organised letter writing to his TV show for kids. (The premise was that you wrote telling him something you really wanted to do, & he'd make the arrangements for you to do it, things like work as a tech for Iron Maiden for a day, meeting famous people, or reading train announcements. The actor Peter Cushing even wrote asking for a rose to be named after his dead wife.) I refused to write to him, telling my teacher that my parents didn't approve of the show, & offered to write a letter to someone else. The truth was no-one in my family could stand him, he made our skin creep. My parents knew exactly why, my brothers & I didn't. My cousin had warned them not to let us have anything to do with him.
My cousin is just over 20 years older than me & was a nurse at the Leeds hospital they mentioned. The nurses & junior doctors had a rule when Savile was on site: patients who were either children or young, vulnerable females were never to be left alone with him. Even junior nurses or students were not safe & needed a chaperone when he was around. A nurse had actually caught him trying to rape a young woman with a learning disability who was in hospital following surgery. They'd reported it as high as they could in the hospital, but were told they must have miscontrued what was happening, because Savile was a fantastic fundraiser & no-one who spent that much time & energy raising money for charity would do something like that. Some even reported that he'd been found in compromising positions in the morgue, but the management again said they must be mistaken becuase no-one would ever do something against grotesque as that. He got away with it simply because people could not believe that anyone famous with such powerful friends would be a paedophile. We know better now.
Larry Grayson in a local radio station interview once alleged that Savile was into necrophilia. The interviewer was surprised but Grayson was convinced and very vocal about it.
That is absolutely horrifying.
As a woman (I know, the dreaded phrase), I especially appreciate how you approached the issue of the two women who backed down from having their story published in the paper. Like Spencer said, everyone who kept quiet about this has blood on their hands, but, unfortunately, we tend to loop victims into that blame for their silence. You both recognize that it's a lot more complicated than that, and the shame and hopelessness a lot of victims feel, especially against people with as much power as Savile, keeps them from reporting sexual assault and other abuse. Thank you for your kindness and sensitivity with this case and for raising awareness about it on this side of the pond.
My Ex's mother was one of his victims.... Man was sick and so were those who went out there way to constantly cover up his sickness. Police, Celebrities his family and friends all knew and kept it buried cause there was money to be made off his name... no matter the human cost.
It was heartbreaking when Stephen said "it progressed from just being hit to ...". That poor child had felt that being hit was so normal that he used the word 'just' when referring to it. And then he had 9 years of hell to live through afterwards.
Respect to you guys for taking on this documentary. It’s a tough watch.
I spent many years working in the field of child protection. I’ve seen the damage caused to the victims and also by extension to their families, their own children et cetera.
Child protection isn’t just for the professionals and the police but it’s a responsibility that everyone in society has.
You have my complete respect. I've worked in an adjacent field. Went for a job working in a children's refuge, sorry - but I quit a week in. Knew I couldn't handle it emotionally, it's a career path that would've led me to hard-drinking. We do have that responsibility, but the answers are hard, it's something I couldn't do.
It also reflects the attitude at the time. My mum was abused by her grandfather. It wasn't the worst kind, (it was groping and hands under the dress, sort of abuse). But it still left her scarred. The worst thing, in my mum's eyes is that her grandmother (his wife) was often in the same room, where it happened, and never stopped him. She just said "he was that way". Child *busers weren't taken that seriously back then. They were just considered "dirty" and "shifty". etc.
Of course it was took seriously by people involved, Catherine Cookson was abused by her Grandparents lodger, when her Grandfather found out the lodger ‘mysteriously’ disappeared.
I understand what you mean. My grandfather groped me, I told and it was smoothed over. There’s too many cases of everything being hushed up or ignored.
@@jemmajames6719 That's a very sweet notion, but it's simply not true. In many, MANY families, if not most, child abuse involving family members is just hushed up. Often the children, usually girls, are blamed for leading whatever male family member is involved on. That was particualrly true of the era in which Savile operated. Absuing girls wasn't considered abuse, it was 'just sex'.
@@chancerystone4086 Don’t be so patronising, I suffered abuse although not sexual, I know what an unhappy childhood is like, although it was mild compared to the terrible stories you hear.
@@chancerystone4086your comment is absurd. I suggest you educate yourself on sexual abuse before making such ignorant comments.
I met Saville once, I was three years old & my sister was nine, he came over to us, said something to me & hugged my sister (for far too long) & whispered something in her ear.
I worked as a temp for a UK national tabloid in the late 90's and one of the editors told me that Savile was a 'kiddie fiddler' - I've always remembered that as I'd not heard that term before. The Press knew, but couldn't just write a story without back up.
You should consider adding the series of Crimes That Shook Britain on your list of what to react to. You’d find it really interesting
Oh yes. Fred and Rose West, Dennis Neilson
Mick Philpott too
what about hem girls in Rochdale in the west of England
And The Crimes That Shook Ireland & The Crimes That Shook Australia.
I feel the need to comment . . . I was an 8 year old the first time I saw him in real life. My dad and his brother owned a record store in the Merrion Centre in Leeds. Every Saturday I would go down there and listen to vinyl and look through the singles and albums. I was turning into a punk rocker as they often played bands like The Ramones and the Sex Pistols.
I think at the time, Top Of The Pops was recorded at the BBC studios in Leeds so JS was around Leeds a lot in those days. He frequented my dad and uncles record shop often along with Gary Glitter and Harold Wilson who finished his 2nd term as PM in 1976. There were others who came with them, like Stuart Hall who was a DJ and also presented a show called Its A Knockout. Freddie Starr was another. Both of the latter two were also charged with noncing, Stuart Hall being found guilty more recently but I cant remember without looking it up if FS was ever convicted of any wrong doing.
Now, even as an 8 year old and often being told by my parents never to talk to strangers, that made me apprehensive about anyone at all and made me study watch people and study them. JS always gave me the creeps and even when he was on Jim'll Fix It on a Saturday night, I used to cringe when he was on and wonder why kids used to sit on his knee when he was a stranger! Why hadnt these kids been told not to talk to strangers but I didnt connect they had all the staff there behind the scenes so what could go wrong!?
Many people in Leeds and further afield just had gut feelings he wasnt right, but obviously not to anywhere this extent. Im not going try and make out I or anyone else had a clue what he was really up to, like the lady said in the film, we just thought he was a creep!
The last time I saw him was when I took a girl out for lunch. We went to an Italian restaurant called the Flying Pizza. JS spent much of his free time there when he was home. He lived in a penthouse in the grounds of Roundhay Park, strangely enough, the same area in which Peter Sutcliffe (The Yorkshire Ripper) murdered one of his victims. The penthouse was demolished but the block still remains I think.
So we were sat at a table and to my horror in walked JS and he sat at the bar at the entrance to the restaurant where you would sit and have a drink while you waited for your table, this was afternoon and the place was quiet even though it was one of the top places in Leeds to eat for a long time. He was positioned about 10 yard directly behind my date wearing his familiar pink tracksuit and his rose tinted John Lennon specs. His hair was a mess as usual. I could see him directly over her shoulder and he was just staring at me! I wanted to get up and smack him in his face and my date asked what was wrong. I told her who was behind her but she wasnt one of those who ever thought wrong about him, so I explained that many thought he was a paedo and by the time our meal arrived he had left. This was around 15 years ago. I lived about 5 minutes in a car from him in North Leeds (Moortown) and he lived in the adjoining distric of Roundhay
Its sad and also true that victims back then would have been silenced. JS was too big. In similarity, the only one that comes close is Bill Cosby
Apologies for the novel but . . . ya know, you cant tell things like this without detail
FS lost his libel case in 2015 as, to quote the judge, "the girl's words were true". He then fled to Spain before dying
@@Rachel_M_ Thanks Rachel I wasnt aware of that
@@waynenorth5322 no problem Wayne. You're most welcome
John Lydon called him out on the Radio in 1978 when he was in the Pistols and was band for it. There’s a good clip of it kicking about
Yeah I saw that, crazy it took so long to out him. Shame he died before taking responsibility
My husband met him in the mid 90's. John is a bricklayer and he and his work mate Pete were asked to go and do some work on a local business that was due to be officially opened by Jimmy Saville. They were there when Jimmy was laying a stone for the publicity photo. John came in after work and said he was chatting to them both for ages saying how if anyone ever needed money raising it was easy to do. He just had to make a few phonecalls. He was then bragging about how easy it was to get women. Years later when the truth came out we weren't at all surprised to be honest. Look up Louis Theroux. He did a documentary with Saville. It gives you a good idea of the blokes personality.
That was really tough fellas,after 2 years watching everything with you,ive laughed,cried,analysed,but never so disturbed,everyone thought he was a creepy man,i was a kid in the 70s,but he wasnt just creepy,he was a monster,well done to you both for showing and reacting to that,it must have been difficult.
Much love and respect from England
Yep. There were always stories. I grew up in Dunblane and went to Thomas Hamilton's boys club. we saw stuff that was very weird but didn't make sense till later. 'Monster' really is the word for these vile c***s!
Totally agree with you! Same here - no way did any of my friends or i want anything to do with him, even at age 11, although we did want our dreams 'fixed' - when I moved to London in 1983 the stories of what he was doing were all around. I assumed it was just gossip, only to find out decades later that it hardly touched the truth. What a weird world.
Louis Theroux did an amazing documentary worth watching especially in hindsight as no one knew everything then
The knighthood was not so much a result of his charity work as it is of Margaret Thatcher pushing for it. He'd been turned down on 3 previous occasions, probably due to the whispers and rumours amongst the elites. "Let's make him, Sir Jimmy" was a bit of a campaign by her and it was her last act before leaving power. He became, Sir Jimmy, by virtue of her nomination upon leaving office (a privilege of a departing PM is to nominate people for honours, knighthoods, peerages, etc. Lot of controversy here at the moment regarding Boris Johnson's honours list, which he gets to make as a former PM). Thatcher made him a knight. And that honour has never been revoked as the swine died first. Can't revoke an honour post mortem.
Edwina Currie pulled strings to get him the keys to Broadmoor, ffs how many at the top helped him along his way.😢
And yet people blame the Royals for giving it to him.
Due to large donations he made to the tory party.
@@lewisb85 nah, he didn't significantly donate to the Tories. He was big figure, respected and raised money for charity. He was actually notoriously stingy and greedy. The capital to the Conservative Party and Margaret Thatcher herself, was by association to a popular figure. That aside, she was actually on friendly terms with Savile as was the royal family. You don't get invited to spend Christmas with the royals at royal palaces if you're not. Don't even get me started on that shower of shit. Remember, he wasn't just paedo, he was also pimp.
@@lewisb85 that’s another reason we hate him in leeds
Consider that this doc barely scratches the surface of how deep Savile's depravity actually went(let's just say he used to visit hospital morgues in the dead of night) and the depths of the cover up that allowed it to go on for so long. He was almost certainly being protected by very powerful people who also appeared on the same sorts of "guestlists" that he did.
This has been very very difficult. I lived in the UK through the time when Saville was a household name on TV and radio. To me and my family he always looked shifty and creepy BUT he had connections. The establishment of the UK protects itself and has much to answer for. This topic is important, credit to both of you for shedding a bit more light in the dark corners. Your both a credit to the USA, keep up the good work.
Sadly monsters like this are all around us, and they exist in all levels in society. Finding and sentencing child predators should be our number one focus, but sadly a lot of people don't seem to realize, or perhaps don't want to realize just how broad of an issue it truly is. 😢
Savile is a MASSIVE lesson (for everyone, no matter the country) in institutional grooming, enabling and how it is predators like him get themselves into positions where they become untouchable. My mum used to shudder whenever she saw him on TV; she'd met him in person once with my grandmother when my grandfather was in Stoke Mandeville and found him very creepy.
I met him when I was 10, I had gone with my mom to see my dad who was in Stoke Mandeville Hospital. I was sitting outside the ward waiting for mom and he wandered up and started asking questions, I told him that I had been taught not to speak to strangers or accept gifts from them because he offered me some sweets. I saw a nurse from dad's ward and I asked her if I could see dad if I promised not to make noise on the ward, as soon as I saw my dad and I mentioned this strange man, I don't know what my dad said but after that I didnt have to sit outside the ward any more. Jimmy Saville was a volunteer porter at Stoke Mandeville Hospital
I think it's great that you're viewing this. It carried on for so long because it was covered up. And our media were complicit . If it wasnt for social media they'd never have had to acknowledge it. Even this program is an attempt to distance the media from it's part in the scandal. We've not forgotten.
You talk about a war but they have the power . It happens world wide . It involves politicians judges and even police chiefs. Look at Epstein. He didn't kill himself he was putting powerful people at risk. His list of customers isn't public. Ghislaine is in prison for trafficking children to nobody it would seem. And look at our royal family. Charles was best mates with saville. Andrew was best mates with Epstein. Charges were dropped because it was a can of worms that wasn't allowed to be opened and it still isn't
Much respect for having the courage to air something so terrible. I never liked the man, I thought he was a massive egotist who was all about his own glory but I never in my wildest dreams thought he was evil to the very core of his being.
The horror and disgust in your reactions spoke volumes for the decent human beings you both are. I'm proud to be one of your subscribers.
I'm from Leeds and unfortunately met him when I was 10. I was sat with my mum in a beer garden near where he lived and he came prancing over, put his arm around me and called me his 'Baby Spice' 🤮 I remember feeling really awkward and my mum made him get off of me. It was so obvious he wasn't right and that was 25 years ago!
Strange thing is that it appeared to be common knowledge by everyone yet nothing was ever done to Jimmy Savile.. I remember being in school in the late 70s and as teenagers we used to tell sick jokes about Jimmy Savile and his depraved acts not only with children but with dead bodies too! It appeared to be the worst kept secret ever!
He should never have been given free rein in the Morgues and Hospitals.
because he was protected by royalty
The horrible truth is that all those sick jokes were true. Truly evil man.
The thing is, it wasn't really common knowledge, not in the truest sense, because Saville managed to shut everyone up one-way-or-another, be it via direct threats, having high-up and influential contacts or just through his sheer God-like reputation. So while there may have been rumours within the TV industry and press, the public didn't hear about them, save for some mud-slinging by controversial characters (thereby not taken too seriously) such as punk singer John Lydon.
I mean, there was a BBC documentary made right towards the end of Saville's life casting serious suspicion on his behaviour and detailing Police action, but that got quashed in favour of showing a tribute programme following his death. The 2007/ 2009 thing with the Police wasn't public knowledge at the time either, and the only thing that hinted at any of this was when Louis Theroux challenged him about paedo rumours (which despite your schoolboy comments weren't widely known about) in a documentary from 2000. Saville deflected.
Louis later said that he thought lots of elements of Saville's life and behaviour didn't add-up, but he just put it down to eccentricity and he subsequently befriended him, so he got sucked-in too. During that very documentary Saville used the phrase: "There’s nothing I cannot get" to reinforce his power, and also hinted at his bullying past back in the night club days, bizarrely (in hindsight) claiming that he'd acted to protect 16-year-old girls from pervs. It was another way of diverting attention, just as it was when he claimed to hate kids. Basically his whole life was a carefully-managed charade, and we went along with it.
@@charliegeorge9393 No not true, he fooled a lot of people, and even the Queen, who Saville got to paint her portrait...just the facts not supposition.
I'm disgusted, this makes my blood boil, protect the innocent from these type of monsters.
It's amazing watching you guys as Americans have no idea about any of this and us brits its part of our culture everyone knows who saville was even my 12 year old son great great work guys 🇬🇧🇺🇲
As an American at 30 years old, I didn’t know about him until I was looking into the whole pedo elite theories. He reminds me of Freaky Fred from Courage the cowardly dog
My late mum used to say, ''Good ol' Jimmy'' when he was on telly regarding his charity work. After he was found out, I asked my mum what she now thought of him and exclaimed, ''Dirty bastard!!!''
I don't know this guy very well, due to my age, but a guy called Ian Watkins from a popular welsh metal band Lostprophets, was just as evil as this Jimmy guy.
He was indicted and sentenced to 30+ years in 2012 or 2013...
and again, their were failings in police and investigatory authorities in flags raised about him abusing kids and even babies! makes me sick to think i liked Lost prophets, and saw them once at Brixton Academy.
The guy makes Gary glitter look like a sweet guy😅
I also remember the prosecuting QC Barrister (a Lawyer, Crown litigator), being very proficient in his duties, but the evidence heard on Ian was a bit much for people to hear.
Was never a lost prophet fan but fully aware of Ian Watkins' crimes. There does need to be more awareness about his crimes as it has many similarities to Savile in terms of patterns of behaviour, people turning a blind eye etc.
Of all the celebrity sex offenders that have been ‘found out’, he definitely surprised me the least! Such a shame he wasn’t around to experience the hate
May not have made that much difference, from all reports, Rolf Harris went to his grave fully believing he was totally innocent
They’re never given long enough sentences in my opinion 😡
@@dontsayItoldyousoproblem is they get sentenced on what the max sentence was at the time of the offence which is why Rolf Harris got 5 years as that was the maximum at that time.
I remember when we were little, his program Jim’ll Fix It was huge. I wrote up asking for my sister to go on there. When I think what could have happened 😮 it’s terrible! 😡. Broadmoor is like a hospital/prison for people like the Yorkshire Ripper and Ian Brady of the Moors Murderers who can’t ever be let out as they are so disturbed and evil.
I spent my entire youth - 8 or 9 years old onwards (late 1960s) - utterly creeped out by him. I had to look away if he was on screen - I was repulsed by him. I remember a Kevin Bridges piece where he says that alone should have been the court case - "Look at you! You've done SOMEthing!".
The covering-up, by so many for so long.... how those people sleep at night I really don't understand. As you said at the start - this whole thing was and is beyond appalling.
I lived in Roundhay and would see him on almost a daily basis. This was 2002. My bus stop was opposite a popular pizza restaurant on the street near my house. You would see Jimmy on the same table, as soon as you went through the door, and often surrounded by youngsters and people passing their kids onto his knees for photos.
There were a prostitute murdered just next to his house some years ago and that went unsolved, despite virtually being on his property.
I went to a house party in Roundhay and made a stupid Savile joke about necrophilia (something he is alleged to be into) and one of my friends had a word with me saying that there were several people in the room who's families, or them, had their own horror story involving Savile's abuse.
The Yew Tree list involved many politicians and celebs who were allowed to die before any allegations came to light. MP Cyril Smith being one of the worst abusers and friends of Savile alongside Cliff Richards, which he denies.
That prostitute was the Yorkshire Rippers first victim. It was in view of his penthouse apartment. That penthouse apartment was eventually removed from the top of that building, and not replaced.
@@gniwtram I remember they planned on knocking it down after it all came out, surprised they kept it.
Nothing has been done to clean up this filth, it's as if they have police protection. It's fucking disgusting and needs dealt with swiftly for obvious reasons. Why is nothing being done still today? High places and power hungry psychopaths should not be allowed by law to be in these positions. Its time, or the people might just do it themselves. ❤
Didn't he visit him frequently the Yorkshire ripper?
@@checktheskies5040 When he ran nightclubs in Leeds he got the local police onside.
The guy, even when I was a young kid, was always deeply creepy to me. I never understood why a freak like him was always presenting prime time shows. A lot of the "Our Jimmy", "Man of the People" stuff seemed media-generated. All of my schoolmates loathed him. Nicely handled, by the way. 👍
You know, it always amazes me that Jimmy Saville was 'seemingly' so popular amongst the general public. Like you I was appalled by his behaviour and him personally and I can't remember anybody who actually liked him. Yet there was this 'public' image presented that he was a great guy and he did so much for charity. So much so that I sometimes wondered if there was something wrong with me for loathing him so much.
Looking back on it, it was definitely a case of the Emperor's New Clothes. The only shame was it didn't happen in his lifetime so he could have experienced his fall from grace.
The Netflix documentary on Saville was incredibly well-done too. There was no depths to his depravity.
My parents always used to tell me that they and everyone else in Britain when they were younger loved Jimmy so much, my mum said she wanted to go on Jim’ll fix it so bad. Scary to think about
Thanks for this reaction. As an English man who grew up with Savile's constant presence on TV, it still blows my mind that he was able to avoid any punishment during his life for his actions.
My thoughts are for all the victims 😢 our hearts break for you all 😢
I was 30 years old when he died, so as you can imagine he was part of my "mediasphere" experience for all of my young life. I always thought he was a fucking creepy weirdo and so did everyone I knew back then. If you ever want to do a deeper dive watch "When Louis met Jimmy" a BBC doc from 2000. Louis Theroux is a documentary maker who cut his teeth making very personal documentaries about unusual/eccentric public figures. The Savile episode is so weird and almost exposing for Savile that I'm surprised it was made. There was a follow up that he did in 2016, a doc about the doc if you will. Great video, love you guys x
The old fashioned "They are rich and famous, they wouldn't do that" the belief that you wouldn't behave like that if you were rich and famous.
Nowadays the fact that they are rich and famous makes me more inclined to believe that someone might be a wrong ‘un!
I was absolutely devastated when this came out, i adored him i wrote a letter to his show i watched everything he was on .absalute disgusting human being.
Wat gets me is the amount of people who covered for him.
Who knew full well wat he was doing and looked the other way.
We are talking high ranking bbc executives!
Who still havnt been named and shamed, let alone punished!!
Mad respect for reacting to this one, and thoughtfully too.
Jimmy was also well known for being one of the hosts of the long-running show "Top of the pops" which you guys have seen performances from people like Oasis on. It was an iconic British music chart type show with many iconic bands, singers, musicians etc going back to the 60s and the way I'd say most people were exposed to Jimmy Saville on TV other than his Jim'll fix it show. He was a host on the show for decades from the 60s and even rare appearances when his fame had mostly faded. The BBC doesn't show old episodes with him on anymore for obvious reasons.
In fact you can see a clip of him on UA-cam sexually abusing a woman ON SCREEN whilst on TV hosting Top Of The Pops. If you see that clip, brace yourself, it's awful.
I was too young to have seen him when he was more popular. The only thing I ever thought of him when he was around was that he looked so weird and out of place, you knew something was off with but you couldn't put your finger on why. He just seemed like a weird washed up basically retired celebrity of yesteryear.
An interesting video to cover if you ever do some more on Saville, is outside of trying to find stuff about his time on top of the pops, is theirs a compilation video of clips on TV and radio where people alluded to the fact of Jimmy Saville being a peadophile without outwardly saying it for legal reasons. Probably the best example is from Johnny Rotten (lead singer of the band, Sex Pistols) where on a radio interview in the 70's talks about it and says "Something we all know about but are not allowed to talk about" and he said something like "I guess this won't be allowed out" and they said something about it being liable and he said "Nothing I've said here is liable" etc, truly an amazing clip, Pierce Morgan interviewed him about it and it's really something I'd recommend you watch as it shows how much power Saville had within the BBC and entertainment world.
Cheers for covering this guys, I'd say if you can stomach more of it then cover it more but if you don't, I certainly don't and can't blame you.
Thanks. All the best.
Think that's the clip you are referring too in your post 😳😡😢🤢🤮
He was untouchable, and he said so . Those involved went to the highest level of government, business, showbiz and even those with royal connections.
All have got away with it.
I'm not British, Jimmy Saville was not a name here either, but I had heard a couple of cliff notes from Savilles accusations. I remember watching that football chant video and knew then and there that was gonna be commented on. Nobody feels sorry for Saville!
I'm glad I took the time to watch this with you guys though. He was much, much worse than I thought, and I already thought he was pretty damn bad. That headstone though... "It was good while it lasted". He knew what he meant by that and if that gravesite ever smells of anything other than strong, stale, urine I will be sorely disappointed in the British people.
It's not just that these guys all reflexively protect each other, so one getting into a position of authority helps others get into other positions of authority and so on - like with the unnameable man who certainly didn't strangle himself in prison with a paper shirt. It's also that there's a whole culture within the ruling class of disdain for truth and morality. Like the QC chuckling about Savile maybe having done what the girls were saying. That's an attitude that is fostered in the posh boarding schools and in the legal profession of "it doesn't matter what's true or who's right, just have fun winning." I find the whole adversarial system of British and American justice systems very dubious, because the best lawyers make the fat bucks by pushing a case whether it's right or wrong.
I remember as a kid watching him on TV and there was this pretty girl he was talking to. He didn’t do anything but watching the whole interaction really frightened me. I was so young I didn’t understand but I realised as I got older that he was very creepy and I wouldn’t want to be on my own in a room with him.
I had exactly the same feelings 💜🏴🌻
Yep same mate 💯
The betrayal many felt defies words. He was one of many TV stars from our childhood who turned out to be evil.
You have to consider the scope of "the conspiracy" to cover things up. All of the individual police officers over decades who were supposed to look into allegations. Even if the case is dropped, or someone is paid off, that's still a vast blanket of silence. Colleagues, friends, family of him and others that stay quiet. I will not blame the victims for keeping quiet. It just reveals the massive, depraved system that has existed for hundreds of years, and shows no sign of being extinguished, because they are the decision makers.
Forget moon landing hoaxes and lizard people, this is real and it's vile.
There are a few who have never been exposed , One of my mates has a very interesting story of her encounter with a very famous 70’s pop star and heart throb who is still a national icon , She was 14 at the time , he’s never been exposed and she told me about what happened long before Savile was exposed so I believe her absolutely
@@minkyfran8307 I suspect there are a lot more than a few. I think we have shied away from this as a society for so long, we are afraid to look and find out how bad it really is.
When we are powerless to prevent or correct the blatant corruption around money and power, how the hell do we fix the secret stuff?
What's worse is the internet is not only facilitating the spread of it, but there are sections pushing for legitimacy and acceptance!
@@minkyfran8307Wouldn’t be surprised if you said Cliff Richard
@@_SIRENITY_I think we're all awaiting the truth after his death
@@bethcushway458 Is that who your friend refers to? Or is that hush hush
Thanks for tackling such a rough subject. Much respect to you both.
Well done for tackling a subject like this.. It should never be ignored.. Respect boys
Thank q guys. I grew up with him on the TV. Always felt he was creepy. But he was still there for years. Then suddenly after he died all this came flooding out. I know i felt sick to my stomach and such rage that he escaped earthly justice. That these things happen across the world is beyond evil. But we now know far more of these groups. And with the bright light of all media shining on them, they have fewer & fewer ways to hide. I'm sure God dealt with him. For all those hurt by him we have a duty to protect the innocents. Kindness and love to all those hurt. We hear you. We believe u & we'll fight to stop that evil. God bless u all.💕
Your commentary was v thoughtful. Like most other people from the UK would say, I always felt he was strange even as a young child, but couldn't articulate it. It's been a weird 10-15 years for anyone who remembers the childrens tv icons of the 80s/90s, but I'm hopeful things are finally becoming too transparent for these things to ever happen again.
There was also evidence and rumours that he was a necrophile as well, he had access to hospital mortuaries and was reported to have visited them on a number of occasions - super creepy.
Yea have heard that one over the years also
I read that he more or less had a free rein and could wonder anywhere in the hospital . One senior nurse wasnt happy and questioned her managers as to why Saville had this hold over them . She was told to ' leave it '. Not saying they knew anything dodgy was going on but it seemed that all of his charity work outbalanced the ' other ' side of his life .He could literally do no wrong .
What he got away with is sickening beyond belief ,royalty ,government ,bbc,thousands he abused. I cannot even bare to watch the documentary, it makes my skin crawl. May he rot in hell 🤬👿
I went to stoke M hospital as a child and my dad wouldn't let me be in a room alone with him. My dad didn't trust him and told JS straight to his face.
The Radio One DJs were like rock stars back in the day and Savile was the biggest star of all. Whatever people might try to tell you nowadays, everybody liked him. It was staggering when his crimes were revealed.
I saw your original video way back and then you said:. „Poor J S!“
I laughed out loud and just thought: Oh Boy!
Of course you couldn’t have known.
Thanks for the follow up. I hadn’t seen this. Good reaction.
I think there was a happy ending in the sense that what he did was finally exposed, the victims were believed and it allowed hundreds of other victims of him and many other celebrities and the powerful of the time to come forward. It was a really pivotal period in our society that allowed survivors of historic child abuse to tell the country what happened to them and finally be heard and because of that a few other filthy scumbags were convicted too.
I agree about it helping others to come forward.
My mum was abused as a child and although we as a family knew about it for a long time she had never gone to the police until after all this came out.
He got sent to prison but unfortunately only for 6 months.
He deserved much longer as it has massively affected her whole life.
Really good conversation and observation from both of you. Thank you for doing this.
What is really scary for me is that I actually lived down the road from Savile for years. An easy 5 minute walk to his house. He was my close neighbour since I was 7. Before then, when I was born, I lived 15 minutes from him. There are even videos of him when I was 7 with my house in the background. It’s crazy because I would walk to and from school by myself every day and it’s so scary to think it could’ve been me. Thankfully, I never even talked to him, at least I don’t remember any interaction. Which could’ve happened easily because we would often be on the same field or in the same park. Disgusting man.
Born in 1958 so grew up with Savile constantly on the radio & TV, my family always thought he was wierd, never liked him. My uncle would do first aid on many charity marathons & told me back in the early 80s Savile would start, jump in his waiting car, drive to just before the finish and act as if he'd run the entire course.
You guys nailed it with the Mr Rodgers comparison. Thats the best way I have heard of explaining this to a US audience on who Saville was and how he was regarded BEFORE he passed.
He pretty much confessed when Louis thoroux interviewed him. But did it in a way that it couldn't go to court.
Please explain
@Devonian he talked about relationships with "girls of different ages" but never went into detail. With his documentary "Savile" Louis said he wished he'd picked up on what he meant.
Yes remember that coded language basically taking the piss how he is getting away with it
Yep. Telling us right to our faces 👹
Unfortunately jim'll fix it was like a real life santa. Kids in my generation loved him. I was encouraged by my mum to write in to him. Schools would encourage their classes to write to him for their English assignments. I didnt see the dangers as children dont think sexually and i didnt. It was only when i was older and saw the loius Theroux interview with him did i think "my word, that guys is sooo weirdo, somethings off about him!"
The worst part of all of this is that he got away with it. Even if he'd been convicted later in life, it may have provided some closure for his victims
I moved to Leeds in 1980 at the age of 16. Living new by, my new friends told me to keep away from the area as Jimmy Saville liked young boys. That was many years before everything was revealed and became headline news
my mum met him working at a chippy restaurant, creeped all the waitresses. his mum lived in scarborough where he was real close to the mayor, who happened to own an icecream parlour right in the middle of the amusement arcades on the front by the beach. but thats whole other rabbit hole ya dont wanna go down. there so many more victims than will ever know.
I just commented about that being from Scarborough myself. He and Peter jaconelli the ice cream millionaire and mayor would threaten and pay off youngsters local and holiday makers day tripper. And watch the kids on the beach etc.
people in Scarborough would warn their kids to stay clear. Disgusting
Wasnt the Mayor also a bit dodgy too ?
It even got worse because the subsequent police investigation into child abuse was badly handled, they were so intent on proving they were taking things seriously that any accusation, no matter how unbelievable or patently ridicules was believed, a lot of innocent men, some very distinguished, some famous,were dragged in,accused ,had their lives destroyed,their reputations destroyed and many committed suicide.
No action from the police for decades and then the usual total overreaction afterwards. Typical.
@@fuzzlewit9 pedos in the Police nowadays. Maybe back then too.
@@fuzzlewit9 I wouldn't say it was an overreaction as such considering the fact so many people knew what was happening and didn't say anything for decades. They did have to do a massive investigation. It was more, as the OP says, *extremely* poorly handled. Not least because it was done extremely publicly with anyone investigated being blasted all over the media. I believe the reason the police did nothing while it was happening was because no one said anything to them. If you're curious to look it up, it was called Operation Yewtree.
Please list all the men who committed suicide or 'had their lives destroyed' because of the investigtion into Jimmy Savile. Yeah, I thought not........
@@fuzzlewit9 Yep, then back to "normal" and the whole cycle repeats itself again.
I remember a newspaper interview he gave I think early 70s where he talked about managing a group of wrestlers and I quote "if anybody tried to give me a hard time or said something I would send the boys round" ŵe all know what that means, and the slimeball Boasted about it in print.
I'm 55 and wen I was a child I knew he was horrible I was always scared of him wen he came on the tv and I never watched anything he was in. they say kids are great judges of character and as a little girl I knew there was something very scary about this vile man 😠😠
This man was friends with King Charles III and former prime minister Edward Heath! Says it all really!
There was an over arching inquiry into child abuse and exploitation, the failure of police, social services and others in authority. Many of it's recommendations are still waiting to be implemented. But as around 10% of the police is currently suspended pending investigation relating to sexual offences, don't expect quick results. But thanks for doing this.
HI GUYS, i was in stoke Mandeville hospital in Buckinghamshire at the age of 8 in 1980 having my tonsils removed, the hospital was where Saville went a lot, i remember we was told he was coming to visit, all the kids in the ward got excited and started comparing what jim will fix for us, it was my fav tv programme at the time, it made you dream ,we waiting in our beds awaiting the visit from the man that make your dreams come true, and then the nurse come in and said he was in the next ward and he has not got time to visit us, i was gutted , but now i get the shakes thinking how close i was to him and the power he had over us
Utter monster. My friend described him as a credit/debit devil. All he put in (charity work etc) and then all he and his friends took out from the lives of their victims. Filth.
It was much worse than this even goes into. In the hospitals he worked in he wasn’t allowed to be in the morgues alone as he would have his way with the dead bodies. Absolute wrong un
Thanks for this fellas, people need to be educated on this subject, to be warned is to be forearmed. People like Saville are still out there and people need to learn to read the signs, put fear aside and do the right thing because today you will be taken seriously regardless of who the offender is. Saville was the most prolific but as it turned out was far from alone when it came to big name stars.
You know there’s still some people here in England that defend this piece of s**t .. I was brought up watching Jim’ll Fix It, I came very close to sending him a letter .. thank f**k I didn’t .. I have no words to describe how much I detest this man, well non that I could put on here anyway .. thank you so much for doing this .. people had called this out years ago but it took his death to finally get the whole truth out to the public ..
My grandmother went to school with him in Leeds.
I remember once I had a teacher at school who said savile was known to be extremely nasty when he ran night clubs.
Later I worked at the hospital and he came in. He was acting extremely weird. He must have had protection he was pure evil and truly twisted.
Apparently he made a pass at a promoters daughter when he was a pro wrestler. British wrestling legend Adrian Street beat him up so badly as a result (the kind of beating that if it wasn't in a wrestling ring street would be looking at jail time) Savile was blacklisted by the British wrestling industry.
He did the wrestling for charity against wrestler Gentleman Jim Lewis. Gentleman Jim Lewis beat the crap out of Savile. The referee and official had to break up the fight. That was because Savile made the mistake of molesting Jim Lewis partners' daughter.
@@stingray4real Adrian street did a shoot on UA-cam about it. I'm glad he got the stuffing kicked out of him on more than one occasion. Guys like Adrian and Jim knew how to hurt people.
Yes, a man at the height of his fame when I was growing up. He was on the television every week and always in the news. The shock was immense. Yes, the many people who even now hold positions of responsibility in the media and government who turned a blind eye is an even worse scandal.
Thank you for this.
It's something that needs to live in public consciousness as, without an understanding of how it happened and what mistakes were made, we can never hope to spot it now or prevent it from happening in the future.
It's also thought he was a necrophile (he had access to morgues and spent an unusual amount of time in them) and when his mother died (who he had a strange relationship with) he kept her body at his home for several days before burying her. So yeah, that was a thing too.
I would normally watch all your videos but I'm not comfortable watching this, just commenting to help the algorithm! Much love.
Johnny rotton called him out and got banned from the BBC for it
We also have a pedo problem in parts of England and it were all covered up for 40 years
Yup it was as bad for my generation as Mr Rogers doing the same. Blew our minds!
Growing up watching him he made my flesh crawl!