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The actor who plays Rojan is the same actor that portrayed the starship doctor in the 50's sci-fi classic "Forbidden Planet". That movie starred Leslie Nielson as the captain and was the inspiration for Star Trek.
He's Warren Stevens. He was also the voice of the unseen John Bracken in the obscure TV series Bracken's World which also starred Linda Harrison (Nova from the original Planet of the Apes).
Deforest Kelly’s face when Nimoy fell sideways, made me LOL I’d never caught that before in all the times I watched TOS. He really wasn’t expecting that. Love it.
Roddenberry had an onyx dodecahedron (D12) on his desk when they were trying to think of a way to get the bulk of the crew out of the way. I've never counted the actual sides on the props used in the episode. I'd think they might simply copy Rod's D12, but perhaps not.
Just love watching Scotty get drunk. And getting the Kelvan get drunk also! "It's green!" though a very simple line has become famous in the history of pop culture! Your vid as always bunnytails was allot of fun to watch!
Unless this episode was shot during the winter, it's very likely that the Desilu stages would've gotten very warm at the time, so those women were far more likely to be okay.
Oh damn so you're one of those that even on a hot day brings a sweater. I get make fun of my boss when on triple digit days she still has a flannel on and doesn't know why it's still on when she's hot.
I love how this ep is a mix of drama and comedy. When the usual "serious" methods failed to give control of the Enterprise back to them, having the Kelvin's experience human emotions was the perfect way to get through to them.
The comedy and chemistry among the actors are aspects of the original Star Trek that get forgotten - it was so innovative and imaginative on so many levels and had a tremendous impact on the culture; but in some ways, what's great about it is the wit and the humor - the vitality and interplay between the characters. It's nice that you're picking up on that aspect.
In Star Trek TNG Scotty returns (the episode Relics) In 10Forward he wants real alcohol not whatever it is they drink. Data find an unlabeled bottle. When Scotty asks what it is Data can only answer: "It's green."
"That which we call a rose by any other name would smell as sweet". The Kelvans became "roses" with another name. They became just as human as the humans with the same weaknesses and failings.
Barbara Bouchet is stunning. She's also featured in the bombastically psychedelic, so-bad-it's-good James Bond spoof Casino Royale, which stars basically everybody who was anybody in 1967... it was a huge influence on the Austin Powers films. You might want to add it to your reaction list.
She was also the cheating wife who only appeared in the first 10 minutes of the John Wayne film "In Harm's Way" from the early 1960's. She does this rather seductive dance and goes skinny dipping with an Army Air Force officer. She didn't get to demonstrate much acting skill unfortunately. However, she does have an active resume and is still living in Italy . She played an elderly German emigree in "The Gangs of New York in 2002 and is still alive and acting in mostly European films.
Right. One of the few Trek episodes to look back to earlier episodes. This is also the first time for the galactic barrier since "Where No Man Has Gone Before".
@@VictorBush-cx7sj I always thought wouldn't it have sucked for the aliens if someone with a high ESP level had been aboard the Enterprise this time as well, and made their lives really, really hard *without* turning against Kirk and the crew too?
I love how this episode is written in a way to show a minimal cast of actors to save a budget and how they created a alien species without actually visually seeing them.
Warren Stevens the alien Rojan was also Doctor Octor in the sci fi movie Forbidden Planet which really inspired Roddenbarry to created Star Trek. Highly recommend this 1956 movie and you will see definate Star Trek elements
The Kelvin, Hanar (in the tan/brown suit) also played Tormolen, the crewman who was the first to get infected in The Naked Time (he ended up stabbing himself).
At 11:35 to 11:45 recall that the Enterprise encountered the galactic barrier in season 1, episode 3 "Where No Man Has Gone Before" which was produced as the second pilot. In that episode the negative energy of the barrier was also quite energetic. Luckily there was no one on the Enterprise this time with a high ESPer rating like Gary Mitchell and Dr. Elizabeth Dehner, so they didn't have to deal with someone with Godlike powers as well as dealing with the Kelvans.
Did you notice the classic blooper in this episode? The whiskey bottle that Scotty throws away and you here shatter! Then when Scotty sinks to the floor you see the same bottle whole again!!! GOD BLESS ALL HERE!!!!!
I quite like this one -- I think the tone whiplash gives it extra character. I also appreciate how Kirk holds to the Federation's core values -- he still welcomes peace, even with someone who started out a brutal enemy, as long as it can be arranged on fair terms. Oh, and I love your shirt.
Taken from Wikipedia: Former SNL cast member Sasheer Zamata has stated her parents named her after the alien flower-like crystal called the "Sahsheer" from the Star Trek episode "By Any Other Name."
The Kelvans are vicious; Rojan didn't have to kill her. The episode is too sympathetic towards the Kelvans. They're trying to get to a new home; okay. They don't have to kill.
To this day I don't watch that part of this episode since it really is so cold and cruel. This episode has extremes: murder and comedy. That's why this episode is not one of my favorites though I love the kissing scenes the best since they completely ignore "normal" social conventions. If only men and women could simply "apologize" more that would be nice.
22:39 I believe that was the point the writers were getting at. The aliens considered themselves to be conquerors, invaders and rulers of all "lower" forms of life. Kirk showed them that their analogy was wrong. When they took human form, they became human and were no longer Kelvin.
I know TOS because I've been around longer than it has and really do know all the episodes very well. You have such a great sense of humor, When I watch a review I find myself laughing at the same silly observations and can immediately know when you're going to have a question. It's like watching it with you. When a good laugh after a bad day is needed you're fun to watch.
Watren Stevens appeared not only in the film Forbidden Planet, which influenced Star Trek, but other sf series. Twilight Zone, (original and 1980s versions) The Outer Limits, Land of the Giants, the film Cyborg 2067, a number of others. Very entertaining reaction Bunny🐰🐰🐰😊
The actor Warren Stevens, who plays Rojan, is kind of a veteran science fiction actor, having appeared in one of the greatest science fiction movies ever made, "Forbidden Planet," an episode of "The Outer Limits," an episode of "The Twilight Zone," and other things. He does a fine job in this Star Trek episode.
To me "Forbidden Planet" is the greatest science fiction film in history, and Star Trek owes a lot to it in many ways; even the Enterprise registry number 1701 came from "Forbidden Planet"😊
Hi Bunny, sorry I'm late to the shindig but I always enjoy your reactions and especially the Star Trek ones. You bring many of us great joy. Never stop contemplating what Star Trek means to you. You rock!
By Any Other Name...they kept referring to themselves (and thinking of themselves) as Kelvins even though they had taken human form. Their nature was leaning in our direction from before the crew beamed down. Their characteristics (analogous to smelling as sweet) were changed such that they were Kelvins in name only. While there were a lot of lighthearted moments, the situation was dire. It's not every week Kirk contemplates blowing up his ship. Just as in real life, where humorous things happen in the midst of serious stuff. That is part of what makes Trek so relatable. Great reaction, I was excited for you for being excited right from the start!
Good to hear Bunny's response. This one is one of our favorites. If you notice, there was one thing that made the Kelvin Empire lose the fight and it was Kirk using simple 'human psychology' making Rojan intensely jealous of Kirk getting intimate with his female interest, Kelinda. That drew the raw emotion out of Rojan and Kirk took advantage of it. While McCoy, Scotty and Spock did their parts in sabotaging the Kelvins' plans, it was Kirk using Rojans' newly discovered 'male ego' against him making him think Kirk was out to romance Kelinda out of his life which was something he was not about to accept.
The Kelvans were an evil analog to the Thermians in Galaxy Quest. Multi-tentacled beings projecting a human shape. Sure they became benign at the end but tell that to Yeoman Thompson.
Wow! You're so colorful today... I'm STUNNED!! Yes, good episode today. This episode had the most disturbing death sequence in the entire series. It was unsettling for another reason: this was the first time that a woman red shirt (or red tunic) met the same fate as the men red shirts on this show. That sequence also had a unique musical score for the 2nd season. But you'll hear it a lot more in Season 3, but this was the first time we hear it. Rojan was a ink on a chain following an order given 300 years ago. He never stopped to question it. Barbara Bouchet played Kelinda, and she's 80 today. She's a Czech woman who was born when Germany occupied it. Warren Stevens (Rojan) also played the doctor on Forbidden Planet. Yes, Scotty was hilarious!
I've seen this episode perhaps dozens of times, but this is the first I considered myself just one of the Kevins! Fun premiere chat, Bunny, I'd be up for more of them. Thanks!
The guy that McCoy jacked up is the same actor who played Joe in "The Naked Time", the dopey guy who took off his glove on the frozen planet, came back and infected the crew, and then died from the knife wound. The doomed yeoman was played by Julie Cobb, whose father was actor Lee J. Cobb. If you ever watch the film "12 Angry Men", which many have been reacting to, he's especially great in that. Barbara Bouchet (Kelinda) lives in Italy, is 80 years old, and still appears there in film and on tv. I saw her on an Italian interview show not too long ago. She's also involved in the fitness industry.
I remember that episode for its score and for that beautiful security Yoeman reduced to a cube and crushed in shambles ! How cruel ! I was young and "awakening" at the time I saw that episode and I remember by insides burning with rage at that very moment. I think given the reputation of the "Red Shirts", it's probably a good thing that Janice Rand disappeared from the series altogether, that way she wasn't sacrificed on the Red Shirt shrine ! That way, she's still alive somewhere, contrary to the one that was crushed into dust. A fan group who have made the Hidden Frontier series, later produced the Odissey series that takes place in Andromeda galaxy and has a follow up, sort of, of that plotline of the Kelvins. If course it's non official, non canon, but in that fan canon, it turns out the Kelvins were in fact fleeing a dangerous enemy. "Warp 11" is so iconic that it's a cheat code in the first Midtown Madness video game where every vehicle except yours goes so fast that you can barely see them ! "It's green" is also a classic ! Keep it in mind in case it reappears somewhere, particularly with Scotty... Your enthusiasm is as lovely as usual.
I love the way that you, Bunny, identify with the crew of the Enterprise, for example, by responding to the Kelvin commander that "we tried to give you that planet!" It's the "we" that shows you're a part of the crew.
First, the multi-colored top just ROCKS -- looks GREAT against the multi-colored bookshelf on your UA-cam presentation. I know it isn't the "S.T. uniform", but of course you don't have to wear the uniform ALL the time, just some of the time! Second, personally, I had already started to research future (mostly Voyager) episodes, that fell under the two categories of "more philosophically oriented", and "more just a lot of FUN oriented", as you mention (guessing already those were two ways you might be leaning), and have 2 really good episodes ALREADY picked out! (But can't tell you what they are yet! Interestingly, one of the ones I personally like, and had ORIGINALLY thought of, I researched, and found out that Star Trek fans rated it one of the "darkest" of all Star Trek episodes ever made! If you ever see it, I'll be interested to see if you agree!). Third, agree with you on the difficulty in thematizing the plotline under the Shakespearian metaphor of "the rose would smell as sweet". Maybe a better encapsulation would be "there's more than one way to skin a cat"? (If that doesn't offend your cat-mom sensibilities?).
This episode is in my top 5, so I have several comments (no spoilers). 3:12 “She’s gorge.” Yes, indeed. Back in 1968, I found her (Barbara Bouchet) irresistible in this episode. Honestly, I STILL find her irresistible in this episode. A “generation ship” is a science-fiction interstellar ship on a very long voyage. The voyage is so long that the original crew are expected to die of old age, while their on-board descendants carry on. Hence, the ship will take multiple generations of crew members to complete the voyage. (This idea goes back to the 1920s or even further.) Kirk reminds Spock of the non-contact telepathy trick he performed in a previous episode, “A Taste of Armageddon”. (You have seen that episode before, so this is not a spoiler.) 6:08 “… they don’t even like being on planets out in the open.” Actually, it’s only this small group of Kelvans that are claustrophobic because they have spent their whole lives inside a starship. The killing of the young female yeoman is certainly one of the most disturbing scenes in TOS. Kirk had just consoled her, and he is then shocked to see her murdered. The scene has always bothered me. At least, I am happy to see that so many commenters agree. And a tip of the hat to you, bunnytails, for calling for a “moment of silence” for her. The acting in this episode is outstanding, including the guest stars. Believe it or not, I always get a little emotional at this dialog (which is essential TOS): ROJAN: You would extend welcome to invaders? KIRK: No. But we would welcome friends.
You make a good point about how important the characters, and their chemistry, is to the success of the show. That's not something you can plan for, but I think once the producers and writers realized what they had going for them, they really started to leverage it. So many great little character moments here. I have to give a nod to the guest actors here too, they all did a great job portraying the cool, formal Kelvins and their transition to becoming temperamental humans. I'd say you owe us Kevins an apology, but thanks to Kelinda, that's a loaded phrase now... ;-)
Trek had this way of turning a hopeless Grimm situation, into a hopeful humorous end as crazy as that sounds . But it worked...and we loved that, I guess it was like saying no matter how big and mean a giant the world throws us we can defeat it in the end. Something like that.
This is the only episode I am aware of that references things from other episodes. The first reference is when Kirk asks Spock to reach his mind through the wall to put a thought in the guard. That happened in the episode of taste of Armageddon . The second is when they are approaching that energy barrier at the edge of the galaxy, and Kirk tells the commander that we've been here before. That happened in the episode where no man has gone before.
The final episode of Star Trek TOS mentions events in several previous episodes after Spock mindmelds with the character played by guest actress Sandra Smith. I would elaborate, but Bunny obviously hasn't seen that one yet.
Hi Bunny, "All sapient life are our kith" Dr.Who once said to an alien entity that was destroying every life form in its path. It's one great merit that the Kelvins seemed to have overlooked. Any highly developed race you would think would have equally learned compassion and respect for other life forms including the lesser advanced ones. Great observation on the title and its meaning that despite being different from each other we're all the same because we feel, react and experience from the same universe that we live in.As the great Carl Sagan once said, "We're all made of star stuff" Thanks for another fun look back and a fantastic Picassoesque outfit to remind us of the colorful and hip 1960's.
* Hello Bunny,...your colorful blouse brought an inmediate correlation of Picasso 's Cubism, the Rubik cube colors and finally this multifaceted cubed episode all coincide .!!...you are an excelent joyful analyst .!!..*
Always thought it was a fun idea and a neat concept, with some great moments and some real fear in the episode. As always, really enjoyed the review and your thoughts
I really liked this episode. I remember being totally in awe when the Enterprise was going to the Andromeda Galaxy. For this boy, an image of other galaxies was just as thrilling as an image of a beautiful girl! Barbara Bouchet/Kalinda is high on my list of Top Star Trek Babes...😍😆 6:41 "This is the essence of what they were." Quite ironic of Rojan to say this, as his essence as a Kelvan was evolving without his knowing it. Once part of an authoritarian, dispassionate and even brutal species, he was becoming an alien to his own culture. He was becoming a passionate, human-like being. Like a Venus Fly Trap evolving into a rose. 🌹
I loved your very logical analysis of the Shakespearean quote. A rose by any other name is still a rose. Live long and prosper. Oh and, party on dudes.
Hello folks! Friendly reminder (which is a bit late as I didn't have a chance to review this until now). Bunny has not seen ANY Star Trek beyond what she's watched so far in The Original Series (which as of right now is just seasons 1 and seasons 2). ANY reference to something that happens in a later episode -- a character returning, a major event happening, a flashback to a older episode -- is a spoiler and SHOULD NOT be posted. I had to remove a ton of comments - and sadly some very good/funny ones - cause they referenced a line from this episode (fans know what I mean). Please do try to be careful about what you say. I know all of you are super excited for this and what's to come -- I don't think poor Bunny has realized what she signed up for! -- but please don't say anything that can spoiler a future episode. It's already happened before and we're trying to stop that from happening again. Thank you all and Live Long and Prosper on your weekend!
As a Star Trek fan, one Christmas, I was given Star Trek socks as a Christmas present. They came in gold, blue and RED. I threw the red ones out immediately.
1. As a male adolescent when I first saw this is he killed the wrong red shirt.😍😭 2. I'm a retired Sailor and I'd love to do 12oz curls with Scotty. 3. Outstanding teamwork.🤩🤩🤩🤩 4. Easily a top 5 episode for me.
This was my first ever episode of ST, kind of intense for a six year old, but I couldn’t stop watching, even when I was scared. That was over half a century ago, and I still have fond memories of this. I’d love to collect Scotty’s stash for myself.
One of my favorite episodes since I can remember watching the reruns as a kid, waaay' back in the 1970's. The yeoman being crushed into dust was shocking, Scotty drinking the Kelvin (and himself) under the table was comedic and enjoyable (even though I had no experience drinking alcohol, let alone getting drunk at the tender age of six). 😄🥃🍷🍸🍺LLAP 🖖
Quite high. This is one of those terrifying episodes, as they are powerless against the Kelvin's. Parodied in an TNG episode, regarding the 'green' drink.
Kudos for the actors. Chekov looks so innocent waiting to be cubed. McCoy sneaks in a great performance. Kirk looks devastated and then gets into the comedy in act II. Everyone contributed. The sky, the beautiful shots of Andromeda galaxy, all great to watch. I'm giving it a 10/10.
This is a pretty good episode for me. The Kelvan's are a formidable antagonist and Warren Stevens, who played the Doctor in Forbidden Planet, is a convincing leader in his own right.
Found it on wiki In Greek mythology, the Hecatoncheires, Hekatoncheires (Greek: Ἑκατόγχειρες, lit. "Hundred-Handed Ones"), or Hundred-Handers, also called the Centimanes[1] (/ˈsɛntɪmeɪnz/; Latin: Centimani) were three monstrous giants, of enormous size and strength, each with fifty heads and one hundred arms. They were individually named Cottus (the furious), Briareus (or Aegaeon, the sea goat) and Gyges (or Gyes) (the long limbed). In the standard tradition they were the offspring of Uranus (Sky) and of Gaia (Earth), and helped Zeus and the Olympians to overthrow the Titans in the Titanomachy.
Also from Romeo & Juliet: "And when he shall die Take him and cut him out in little stars And he will make the face of heaven so fine That all the world will be in love with the night And pay no worship to the garish sun" Eugene Shoemaker's ashes were buried on the moon. A song about him called "Shoemaker" by Nightwish includes this passage. When we were forced to read Romeo and Juliet in school, we missed so much because we hated being forced.
Agreed 8/10 🐰. The best part(s) scotty getting Tomar drunk. (2) The Enterprise leaving the galaxy heading for andromeda. Look forward to the next one...
I just love watching you watch these. I it seems you're having fun watching them. Keep up the great reactions. ❤ Looking forward to your next reaction. Oh one more thing you need to store in your long term memory When scotty said" It's Green".
Pretty intense episode, enjoyed the concept of the Kelvans human senses and emotions being their undoing. I really, really hated seeing the female ensign die (and nobody got punished for it!). Also a pretty darned good episode for Scotty! Not in my top ten, for sure, but certainly a good one. And yeah, I always assumed your theory of what the episode title meant was the intended one. Trivia note: the female ensign was played by Julie Cobb, who later was in Tobe Hooper's TV version of "Salem's Lot". I saw her on a podcast recently and she still looked great!
TOS explained by Mike Stoklasa of Red Letter Media: "Kirk, Spock, and Bones beam down to a planet, then a horror movie happens." An often accurate description of the show.
Please no spoilers! So that I can provide my best and most honest reaction, please do not mention the names of any future characters, events, or episode titles (this goes for future series as well). Please do not say which upcoming episodes are good or bad, otherwise I will have trouble forming my own opinion!
Thank you, and enjoy!
The actor who plays Rojan is the same actor that portrayed the starship doctor in the 50's sci-fi classic "Forbidden Planet". That movie starred Leslie Nielson as the captain and was the inspiration for Star Trek.
He's Warren Stevens. He was also the voice of the unseen John Bracken in the obscure TV series Bracken's World which also starred Linda Harrison (Nova from the original Planet of the Apes).
You're talkin about the actor warren stevens
Deforest Kelly’s face when Nimoy fell sideways, made me LOL I’d never caught that before in all the times I watched TOS. He really wasn’t expecting that. Love it.
“Oh my God, he turned them into D20s!” 😅
Looks more like 14 or 16 sides. Still, funny!
Those are actually 14 sided.
Oh my word. If ever there was a D&D session played with those...
Roddenberry had an onyx dodecahedron (D12) on his desk when they were trying to think of a way to get the bulk of the crew out of the way. I've never counted the actual sides on the props used in the episode. I'd think they might simply copy Rod's D12, but perhaps not.
It's a cuboctahedron, actually. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuboctahedron
Just love watching Scotty get drunk. And getting the Kelvan get drunk also! "It's green!" though a very simple line has become famous in the history of pop culture! Your vid as always bunnytails was allot of fun to watch!
Thank you :)
@@bunnytailsREACTS yw!
Remember Scotty's comment in the future. That's all I am going to say. 🙂
I’ve always felt bad because he wound up having to use the special bottle that he was saving for something special.
“Don’t those girls ever get cold?” 😂
As an always cold person, I got cold just watching!
Unless this episode was shot during the winter, it's very likely that the Desilu stages would've gotten very warm at the time, so those women were far more likely to be okay.
Oh damn so you're one of those that even on a hot day brings a sweater. I get make fun of my boss when on triple digit days she still has a flannel on and doesn't know why it's still on when she's hot.
"those darn Kevins!"
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I love how this ep is a mix of drama and comedy. When the usual "serious" methods failed to give control of the Enterprise back to them, having the Kelvin's experience human emotions was the perfect way to get through to them.
"I'm stimulating him," Kirk says, and they throw him right back into the fight with Rojan.
I fell over laughing at that first time.
I like the Picasso blouse 👍🏻
Thanks!
The comedy and chemistry among the actors are aspects of the original Star Trek that get forgotten - it was so innovative and imaginative on so many levels and had a tremendous impact on the culture; but in some ways, what's great about it is the wit and the humor - the vitality and interplay between the characters. It's nice that you're picking up on that aspect.
"That's why I switched to the blue uniform." Love it!
Yeah, that was hilarious. Great way to end the reaction.
"It's, um... it's green," is among my favorite ST lines.
The reason I buy Mt. Dew Baja Blast.
And also Scotty's hopeless attempt to say the word "Ganymede."
In Star Trek TNG Scotty returns (the episode Relics)
In 10Forward he wants real alcohol not whatever it is they drink.
Data find an unlabeled bottle. When Scotty asks what it is Data can only answer:
"It's green."
@@timbuktu8069 "Synthetic Scotch, synthetic commanders."
You're cute, you're funny, you're smart. This is a very enjoyable channel.
I appreciate that!
"That which we call a rose by any other name would smell as sweet". The Kelvans became "roses" with another name. They became just as human as the humans with the same weaknesses and failings.
Roses also have thorns which, weirdly, are sometimes called
"prickles," which is a spinose structure of another name.
Sounds right.
Barbara Bouchet is stunning. She's also featured in the bombastically psychedelic, so-bad-it's-good James Bond spoof Casino Royale, which stars basically everybody who was anybody in 1967... it was a huge influence on the Austin Powers films. You might want to add it to your reaction list.
It would be sweet to get her to watch: Dr. No, Goldfinger, The Spy Who Loved Me then watch the 3 Austin Powers movies. Imagine those live streamed.
She was also the cheating wife who only appeared in the first 10 minutes of the John Wayne film "In Harm's Way" from the early 1960's. She does this rather seductive dance and goes skinny dipping with an Army Air Force officer. She didn't get to demonstrate much acting skill unfortunately. However, she does have an active resume and is still living in Italy . She played an elderly German emigree in "The Gangs of New York in 2002 and is still alive and acting in mostly European films.
"You're going to need something to wash that down with, have you ever tried any Saurian brandy?"
I like Scotty's plan to take out one of the Kelvans.
Yup, Scotty sure knows how to repurpose alcohol into an offensive weapon ;-)
This episode makes reference to the first season episode "A Taste of Armageddon" when Spock mind melds with his captor who is outside the jail cell.
Yeah! I couldn't remember the exact episode
Right. One of the few Trek episodes to look back to earlier episodes. This is also the first time for the galactic barrier since "Where No Man Has Gone Before".
@@VictorBush-cx7sj I always thought wouldn't it have sucked for the aliens if someone with a high ESP level had been aboard the Enterprise this time as well, and made their lives really, really hard *without* turning against Kirk and the crew too?
Too bad the jailbreak plan failed, which led to Yeoman Thompson paying the price for Kirk and Spock's actions.😢
20:09......."I'm stimulating him." It has to be one of the best lines ever spoken on TV!!! 😂😂😂
"There's plenty of space!"
I love how this episode is written in a way to show a minimal cast of actors to save a budget and how they created a alien species without actually visually seeing them.
Warren Stevens the alien Rojan was also Doctor Octor in the sci fi movie Forbidden Planet which really inspired Roddenbarry to created Star Trek. Highly recommend this 1956 movie and you will see definate Star Trek elements
I do have plans to watch Forbidden Planet :)
@@bunnytailsREACTSNaked? Do a naked watch
Nice touch. Stevens appeared in various science fiction films and TV episodes over the years.
The Kelvin, Hanar (in the tan/brown suit) also played Tormolen, the crewman who was the first to get infected in The Naked Time (he ended up stabbing himself).
@@starmnsixty1209Yes, I remember seeing him in lots of TV shows from the 50s and 60s and 70s.
For some reason with those cubes, I was always looking for a huge cup of coffee.😂
The woman who was crushed is the daughter of actor Lee J. Cobb (12 Angry Men, The Exorcist, On the Waterfront)
"Anyone out there named Kevin, you're cool. Unless you're from Andromeda."
Tough luck for Kevin Sorbo then. But richly deserved.
Good one. Deserves more likes.
Which is sad, because I loved Hercules. But yeah, that Kevin has gone WAAAAAY down in my estimation.
Behave Liberals, or didn't you learn anything from the episode "Patterns of Force"?
@@keithweist3879 No idea what you're talking about.
Just for those who don't know, Kevin Sorbo played the captain on a sentient starship named Andromeda in a Roddenberry series of the same name!
At 11:35 to 11:45 recall that the Enterprise encountered the galactic barrier in season 1, episode 3 "Where No Man Has Gone Before" which was produced as the second pilot.
In that episode the negative energy of the barrier was also quite energetic.
Luckily there was no one on the Enterprise this time with a high ESPer rating like Gary Mitchell and Dr. Elizabeth Dehner, so they didn't have to deal with someone with Godlike powers as well as dealing with the Kelvans.
Did you notice the classic blooper in this episode? The whiskey bottle that Scotty throws away and you here shatter! Then when Scotty sinks to the floor you see the same bottle whole again!!! GOD BLESS ALL HERE!!!!!
"you here shatter!"
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I quite like this one -- I think the tone whiplash gives it extra character. I also appreciate how Kirk holds to the Federation's core values -- he still welcomes peace, even with someone who started out a brutal enemy, as long as it can be arranged on fair terms.
Oh, and I love your shirt.
Taken from Wikipedia: Former SNL cast member Sasheer Zamata has stated her parents named her after the alien flower-like crystal called the "Sahsheer" from the Star Trek episode "By Any Other Name."
She also graduated from Pike High School!
I've always enjoyed this episode. Great review and breakdown of the episode at the end. Loved the reaction and the shirt.
Thanks!
The killing of the woman is one of Star Trek's darkest moments
Yes it was, and the anguished look on Kirk's face as he mourns her death emphasizes this, along with dark and sorrowful music.
Aye. And I can think of a few more to add to such a list.
The Kelvans are vicious; Rojan didn't have to kill her. The episode is too sympathetic towards the Kelvans. They're trying to get to a new home; okay. They don't have to kill.
💯 they should have paid the ultimate penalty
To this day I don't watch that part of this episode since it really is so cold and cruel. This episode has extremes: murder and comedy. That's why this episode is not one of my favorites though I love the kissing scenes the best since they completely ignore "normal" social conventions. If only men and women could simply "apologize" more that would be nice.
22:39 I believe that was the point the writers were getting at. The aliens considered themselves to be conquerors, invaders and rulers of all "lower" forms of life. Kirk showed them that their analogy was wrong. When they took human form, they became human and were no longer Kelvin.
My dear Bunny you make it so enjoyable to revisit these classic episodes. ♥️
I know TOS because I've been around longer than it has and really do know all the episodes very well. You have such a great sense of humor, When I watch a review I find myself laughing at the same silly observations and can immediately know when you're going to have a question. It's like watching it with you. When a good laugh after a bad day is needed you're fun to watch.
Watren Stevens appeared not only in the film Forbidden Planet, which influenced Star Trek, but other sf series. Twilight Zone, (original and 1980s versions) The Outer Limits, Land of the Giants, the film Cyborg 2067, a number of others.
Very entertaining reaction Bunny🐰🐰🐰😊
What a beautiful shirt, Yeoman Bunnytails.
Thank you!
As a young man, I and a lady friend, who was an avid Star Trek fan, also conducted experiments 'in the name of science.' It was quite pleasurable. LOL
Was anything born out of those experiments???
🤣😂😉 "Born"... lol
Ah the burdens of scientific research . LOL
the body horror in this episode haunted me for 50 years
The actor Warren Stevens, who plays Rojan, is kind of a veteran science fiction actor, having appeared in one of the greatest science fiction movies ever made, "Forbidden Planet," an episode of "The Outer Limits," an episode of "The Twilight Zone," and other things. He does a fine job in this Star Trek episode.
To me "Forbidden Planet" is the greatest science fiction film in history, and Star Trek owes a lot to it in many ways; even the Enterprise registry number 1701 came from "Forbidden Planet"😊
He also played an alien conquerer in an episode of "Land of the Giants." It was just a year or so after this episode was made.
Star Trek loves its literary references, especially Shakespeare.
Yes, especially in the movies!
Great reaction… loved your comments. Especially, “she got cubed!”. Also loved Scotty drinking his prized scotch.😂
Incidentally, the actor who played Rojan played the ship's doctor in Forbidden Planet.
"She got cubed !" I love it ! ❤
Hi Bunny, sorry I'm late to the shindig but I always enjoy your reactions and especially the Star Trek ones. You bring many of us great joy. Never stop contemplating what Star Trek means to you. You rock!
By Any Other Name...they kept referring to themselves (and thinking of themselves) as Kelvins even though they had taken human form. Their nature was leaning in our direction from before the crew beamed down. Their characteristics (analogous to smelling as sweet) were changed such that they were Kelvins in name only.
While there were a lot of lighthearted moments, the situation was dire. It's not every week Kirk contemplates blowing up his ship. Just as in real life, where humorous things happen in the midst of serious stuff. That is part of what makes Trek so relatable.
Great reaction, I was excited for you for being excited right from the start!
Parabéns pela série de programas falando de Star Trek, treino meu inglês ouvindo você falar da série que amo.
Good to hear Bunny's response. This one is one of our favorites. If you notice, there was one thing that made the Kelvin Empire lose the fight and it was Kirk using simple 'human psychology' making Rojan intensely jealous of Kirk getting intimate with his female interest, Kelinda. That drew the raw emotion out of Rojan and Kirk took advantage of it. While McCoy, Scotty and Spock did their parts in sabotaging the Kelvins' plans, it was Kirk using Rojans' newly discovered 'male ego' against him making him think Kirk was out to romance Kelinda out of his life which was something he was not about to accept.
She was a Bond girl, a Playboy model, and a sex symbol in many movies. That would be the one to get him jealous over.
The Kelvans were an evil analog to the Thermians in Galaxy Quest. Multi-tentacled beings projecting a human shape. Sure they became benign at the end but tell that to Yeoman Thompson.
Thats why Rojan Deserved the Worst Fate Imaginable. Evil Scumbag. Bad Episode, Bad Writing.
Sasheer Zamata, comedian, actress, and former SNL player, got her name from this episode.
That was something I had heard about too, after watching an interview with Sasheer Zamata.
Wow! You're so colorful today... I'm STUNNED!!
Yes, good episode today. This episode had the most disturbing death sequence in the entire series. It was unsettling for another reason: this was the first time that a woman red shirt (or red tunic) met the same fate as the men red shirts on this show.
That sequence also had a unique musical score for the 2nd season. But you'll hear it a lot more in Season 3, but this was the first time we hear it.
Rojan was a ink on a chain following an order given 300 years ago. He never stopped to question it.
Barbara Bouchet played Kelinda, and she's 80 today. She's a Czech woman who was born when Germany occupied it.
Warren Stevens (Rojan) also played the doctor on Forbidden Planet.
Yes, Scotty was hilarious!
I've seen this episode perhaps dozens of times, but this is the first I considered myself just one of the Kevins! Fun premiere chat, Bunny, I'd be up for more of them. Thanks!
Thanks for being a good sport, Kevin!
@@bunnytailsREACTS I enjoyed it.
The guy that McCoy jacked up is the same actor who played Joe in "The Naked Time", the dopey guy who took off his glove on the frozen planet, came back and infected the crew, and then died from the knife wound.
The doomed yeoman was played by Julie Cobb, whose father was actor Lee J. Cobb. If you ever watch the film "12 Angry Men", which many have been reacting to, he's especially great in that.
Barbara Bouchet (Kelinda) lives in Italy, is 80 years old, and still appears there in film and on tv. I saw her on an Italian interview show not too long ago. She's also involved in the fitness industry.
Bouchet played Miss Moneypenny in the James Bond spoof Casino Royale (1967).
That shape is a cuboctahedron btw -14 sided -8 triangles and 6 squares😛
The positive side: A rose, by any other name, would smell as sweet.
The dark flip side: Conquest, by any other name, would taste as bitter.
I remember that episode for its score and for that beautiful security Yoeman reduced to a cube and crushed in shambles ! How cruel ! I was young and "awakening" at the time I saw that episode and I remember by insides burning with rage at that very moment.
I think given the reputation of the "Red Shirts", it's probably a good thing that Janice Rand disappeared from the series altogether, that way she wasn't sacrificed on the Red Shirt shrine ! That way, she's still alive somewhere, contrary to the one that was crushed into dust.
A fan group who have made the Hidden Frontier series, later produced the Odissey series that takes place in Andromeda galaxy and has a follow up, sort of, of that plotline of the Kelvins.
If course it's non official, non canon, but in that fan canon, it turns out the Kelvins were in fact fleeing a dangerous enemy.
"Warp 11" is so iconic that it's a cheat code in the first Midtown Madness video game where every vehicle except yours goes so fast that you can barely see them !
"It's green" is also a classic ! Keep it in mind in case it reappears somewhere, particularly with Scotty...
Your enthusiasm is as lovely as usual.
I love the way that you, Bunny, identify with the crew of the Enterprise, for example, by responding to the Kelvin commander that "we tried to give you that planet!" It's the "we" that shows you're a part of the crew.
First, the multi-colored top just ROCKS -- looks GREAT against the multi-colored bookshelf on your UA-cam presentation. I know it isn't the "S.T. uniform", but of course you don't have to wear the uniform ALL the time, just some of the time! Second, personally, I had already started to research future (mostly Voyager) episodes, that fell under the two categories of "more philosophically oriented", and "more just a lot of FUN oriented", as you mention (guessing already those were two ways you might be leaning), and have 2 really good episodes ALREADY picked out! (But can't tell you what they are yet! Interestingly, one of the ones I personally like, and had ORIGINALLY thought of, I researched, and found out that Star Trek fans rated it one of the "darkest" of all Star Trek episodes ever made! If you ever see it, I'll be interested to see if you agree!). Third, agree with you on the difficulty in thematizing the plotline under the Shakespearian metaphor of "the rose would smell as sweet". Maybe a better encapsulation would be "there's more than one way to skin a cat"? (If that doesn't offend your cat-mom sensibilities?).
Thanks, it's a new top and it's my new favorite!
Just like a Picasso she's a masterpiece.
1:03 "She cute"
*sobs* 😢
kelenda wow
Yeoman Thompson was totally cute! Too bad she went from being eye candy, instead to resembling a sugar cube and being crushed like one.😢
Yeoman Thompson, who was distilled down and crushed, was played by the daughter of Lee J. Cobb, the famous actor.
One of my favorite episodes.
Warren Stevens had a long career in film and TV; many credits over the years. He died in 2012.
She's "apologizing" all over the place, she's going to be very popular.
This episode is in my top 5, so I have several comments (no spoilers).
3:12 “She’s gorge.” Yes, indeed. Back in 1968, I found her (Barbara Bouchet) irresistible in this episode. Honestly, I STILL find her irresistible in this episode.
A “generation ship” is a science-fiction interstellar ship on a very long voyage. The voyage is so long that the original crew are expected to die of old age, while their on-board descendants carry on. Hence, the ship will take multiple generations of crew members to complete the voyage. (This idea goes back to the 1920s or even further.)
Kirk reminds Spock of the non-contact telepathy trick he performed in a previous episode, “A Taste of Armageddon”. (You have seen that episode before, so this is not a spoiler.)
6:08 “… they don’t even like being on planets out in the open.” Actually, it’s only this small group of Kelvans that are claustrophobic because they have spent their whole lives inside a starship.
The killing of the young female yeoman is certainly one of the most disturbing scenes in TOS. Kirk had just consoled her, and he is then shocked to see her murdered. The scene has always bothered me. At least, I am happy to see that so many commenters agree. And a tip of the hat to you, bunnytails, for calling for a “moment of silence” for her.
The acting in this episode is outstanding, including the guest stars.
Believe it or not, I always get a little emotional at this dialog (which is essential TOS):
ROJAN: You would extend welcome to invaders?
KIRK: No. But we would welcome friends.
You make a good point about how important the characters, and their chemistry, is to the success of the show. That's not something you can plan for, but I think once the producers and writers realized what they had going for them, they really started to leverage it. So many great little character moments here. I have to give a nod to the guest actors here too, they all did a great job portraying the cool, formal Kelvins and their transition to becoming temperamental humans.
I'd say you owe us Kevins an apology, but thanks to Kelinda, that's a loaded phrase now... ;-)
Trek had this way of turning a hopeless Grimm situation, into a hopeful humorous end as crazy as that sounds . But it worked...and we loved that, I guess it was like saying no matter how big and mean a giant the world throws us we can defeat it in the end. Something like that.
“I’m stimulating him!” Classic moment of the Big Three bonding with humour, even in the midst of a fight scene!
Awesome blouse! It reminds me of a painting of Miró or Matisse. I had a similar tie, though it was more monochromatic--red and black.
A Rose by any other name...
Rojan: "You would welcome invaders"
Kirk "No, but we would welcome friends"
This kind of encapsulates the whole episode.
This is the only episode I am aware of that references things from other episodes. The first reference is when Kirk asks Spock to reach his mind through the wall to put a thought in the guard. That happened in the episode of taste of Armageddon . The second is when they are approaching that energy barrier at the edge of the galaxy, and Kirk tells the commander that we've been here before. That happened in the episode where no man has gone before.
The final episode of Star Trek TOS mentions events in several previous episodes after Spock mindmelds with the character played by guest actress Sandra Smith. I would elaborate, but Bunny obviously hasn't seen that one yet.
The Kelvans' skin becomes less pale as they become more emotionally human.
That sounds like a bit of a Pinocchio affect, huh?😏
Thank you Bunny! Love your reactions! Your wit and analysis are so engaging. That top too!
Hi Bunny, "All sapient life are our kith" Dr.Who once said to an alien entity that was destroying every life form in its path. It's one great merit that the Kelvins seemed to have overlooked. Any highly developed race you would think would have equally learned compassion and respect for other life forms including the lesser advanced ones. Great observation on the title and its meaning that despite being different from each other we're all the same because we feel, react and experience from the same universe that we live in.As the great Carl Sagan once said, "We're all made of star stuff" Thanks for another fun look back and a fantastic Picassoesque outfit to remind us of the colorful and hip 1960's.
* Hello Bunny,...your colorful blouse brought an inmediate correlation of Picasso 's Cubism, the Rubik cube colors and finally this multifaceted cubed episode all coincide .!!...you are an excelent joyful analyst .!!..*
You were really on a roll today! I laughed so much! Thanks!
Always thought it was a fun idea and a neat concept, with some great moments and some real fear in the episode. As always, really enjoyed the review and your thoughts
I want your shirt/blouse. Or your shopping source. My mother wore dress patterns like that in the 70's. Simply fabulous ❤
It seems like these old stories are thoughtful. New ones, few and far between.
barbara bouchet😍 scotty getting drunk ...priceless
I really liked this episode. I remember being totally in awe when the Enterprise was going to the Andromeda Galaxy. For this boy, an image of other galaxies was just as thrilling as an image of a beautiful girl! Barbara Bouchet/Kalinda is high on my list of Top Star Trek Babes...😍😆
6:41 "This is the essence of what they were." Quite ironic of Rojan to say this, as his essence as a Kelvan was evolving without his knowing it. Once part of an authoritarian, dispassionate and even brutal species, he was becoming an alien to his own culture. He was becoming a passionate, human-like being. Like a Venus Fly Trap evolving into a rose. 🌹
I had a girlfriend that looked like the blonde...without the weird hairdo and flatter chested
I loved your very logical analysis of the Shakespearean quote. A rose by any other name is still a rose. Live long and prosper. Oh and, party on dudes.
Hello folks! Friendly reminder (which is a bit late as I didn't have a chance to review this until now). Bunny has not seen ANY Star Trek beyond what she's watched so far in The Original Series (which as of right now is just seasons 1 and seasons 2). ANY reference to something that happens in a later episode -- a character returning, a major event happening, a flashback to a older episode -- is a spoiler and SHOULD NOT be posted. I had to remove a ton of comments - and sadly some very good/funny ones - cause they referenced a line from this episode (fans know what I mean). Please do try to be careful about what you say. I know all of you are super excited for this and what's to come -- I don't think poor Bunny has realized what she signed up for! -- but please don't say anything that can spoiler a future episode. It's already happened before and we're trying to stop that from happening again. Thank you all and Live Long and Prosper on your weekend!
As a Star Trek fan, one Christmas, I was given Star Trek socks as a Christmas present. They came in gold, blue and RED. I threw the red ones out immediately.
15:45 - and here we have Star Trek's version of Altaira from the movie *Forbidden Planet.* And Doc Ostrow from the same movie is right there too.
One of my favorite lines of Star Trek is "it's green."
Who knows? That green bottle might of been a vintage, which was actually made by little green men. Hahaha!😆
Very interesting that you researched the phrase spoken by Kirk and written by Shakespeare and analysed it later, nice little touch. :)
Kevinator ... Baconator ... Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon! Thanks, Bun.
Thanks for the 'Reaction'.. Very pretty blouse.
If some Enterprise crew members got zapped like Gary Mitchell and Elizabeth Dehner, maybe they could fight the Kelvans.
1. As a male adolescent when I first saw this is he killed the wrong red shirt.😍😭
2. I'm a retired Sailor and I'd love to do 12oz curls with Scotty.
3. Outstanding teamwork.🤩🤩🤩🤩
4. Easily a top 5 episode for me.
This was my first ever episode of ST, kind of intense for a six year old, but I couldn’t stop watching, even when I was scared. That was over half a century ago, and I still have fond memories of this. I’d love to collect Scotty’s stash for myself.
One of my favorite episodes since I can remember watching the reruns as a kid, waaay' back in the 1970's. The yeoman being crushed into dust was shocking, Scotty drinking the Kelvin (and himself) under the table was comedic and enjoyable (even though I had no experience drinking alcohol, let alone getting drunk at the tender age of six). 😄🥃🍷🍸🍺LLAP 🖖
How does this episode rank for you?
Thanks bunny, episode rating 8/10, your outfit gets a 10/10
Quite high. This is one of those terrifying episodes, as they are powerless against the Kelvin's.
Parodied in an TNG episode, regarding the 'green' drink.
Kudos for the actors. Chekov looks so innocent waiting to be cubed. McCoy sneaks in a great performance. Kirk looks devastated and then gets into the comedy in act II. Everyone contributed. The sky, the beautiful shots of Andromeda galaxy, all great to watch. I'm giving it a 10/10.
This is a pretty good episode for me. The Kelvan's are a formidable antagonist and Warren Stevens, who played the Doctor in Forbidden Planet, is a convincing leader in his own right.
@@williamterry8316 Nice! High marks from Will!
Found it on wiki
In Greek mythology, the Hecatoncheires, Hekatoncheires (Greek: Ἑκατόγχειρες, lit. "Hundred-Handed Ones"), or Hundred-Handers, also called the Centimanes[1] (/ˈsɛntɪmeɪnz/; Latin: Centimani) were three monstrous giants, of enormous size and strength, each with fifty heads and one hundred arms. They were individually named Cottus (the furious), Briareus (or Aegaeon, the sea goat) and Gyges (or Gyes) (the long limbed). In the standard tradition they were the offspring of Uranus (Sky) and of Gaia (Earth), and helped Zeus and the Olympians to overthrow the Titans in the Titanomachy.
I liked how serious and the stakes were so high in the beginning of this episode and how the tone changes mid way through.
Also from Romeo & Juliet:
"And when he shall die
Take him and cut him out in little stars
And he will make the face of heaven so fine
That all the world will be in love with the night
And pay no worship to the garish sun"
Eugene Shoemaker's ashes were buried on the moon. A song about him called "Shoemaker" by Nightwish includes this passage.
When we were forced to read Romeo and Juliet in school, we missed so much because we hated being forced.
Agreed 8/10 🐰. The best part(s) scotty getting Tomar drunk. (2) The Enterprise leaving the galaxy heading for andromeda. Look forward to the next one...
I just love watching you watch these. I it seems you're having fun watching them. Keep up the great reactions. ❤ Looking forward to your next reaction. Oh one more thing you need to store in your long term memory When scotty said" It's Green".
God, I heard you say "kevin" in frustration so many times I got flashbacks to "final space" (which was a fantastic show btw...) 😄
Pretty intense episode, enjoyed the concept of the Kelvans human senses and emotions being their undoing. I really, really hated seeing the female ensign die (and nobody got punished for it!). Also a pretty darned good episode for Scotty! Not in my top ten, for sure, but certainly a good one. And yeah, I always assumed your theory of what the episode title meant was the intended one. Trivia note: the female ensign was played by Julie Cobb, who later was in Tobe Hooper's TV version of "Salem's Lot". I saw her on a podcast recently and she still looked great!
TOS explained by Mike Stoklasa of Red Letter Media: "Kirk, Spock, and Bones beam down to a planet, then a horror movie happens." An often accurate description of the show.