Yamaha SUPER TENERE 1200 First Ride & Honest Review
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2021
- Yamaha's Premier ADV motorcycle has many strong points, but it does leave the rider wanting more in certain areas.
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Best adventure ADV motorcycle from yamaha like BMW R1250GS and bmw f850 GS F900GS maybe KTM 890 Adventure R and KTM 1290 Super Adventure R. Stiff competition vs Triumph Tiger 850 sport and Triumph Tiger 1200 adventure motorcycle, even Harley Davidson Pan America. - Навчання та стиль
Took my Super 10 on a 2000 mile solo trip for five days back in August and it was such a treat, across all terrain (minus the wind tunnel of the Golden Gate Bridge, but any bike would have sucked). My S10 has totally spoiled me because whenever I try to find a quicker, lighter or more nimble bike, it has so many shortcomings compared to the S10 for comfort + fuel range + low maintenance, that it's impossible for me to move. I even bought a T7 in July and sold it in August because it felt so underpowered compared to the S10, coupled with a wimpy 150 mile fuel range when cruising at 75+ that it just couldn't compete. I couldn't be happier with my S10.
That sounds like an amazing trip! Thank you for taking the time to share your experience.
You might give up a bit of power and tech when compared to bmw and Ktm or even the new Pan America but you can’t beat the reliability and cost of ownership of the Super Tenere. Older platform but tried and true.
The S10 needs to be remapped to get the next 20 horses it has inside. They are there, but EPA, you know, to unleash them requires a remap.
I took 1 for a test ride and loved it. Then I brought it and went out to gravel roads that my sport bike couldn't and had a blast.
Blasting out of corners using traction control is so much fun in gravel.
What a bike.
I have owned alot of different bikes from high performance to touring and off road. But when I bought a super tenere I had the most fun with it. Most comfortable bike I had ridden. Great low to mid range which you can have fun without the speeding tickets, you sit really high on this bike so visibility was orsm you can see everything going around you. Yeah she is big and heavy but if your a big fella like me 6.2 120kgs it’s a great bike. Handles the twistie’s really well and great distance machine. Most importantly it won’t break the bank like a bmw. I live in Australia and in the outback nearly all the bike dealerships are Yamaha or Honda because that’s what the farmers buy, so if you do break something on a tour you know you can get that part and for half the cost of a bmw. Also first shaft drive bike I have owned and gotta say will never go back to chain drive. Don’t compare it to a sports bike. It’s a tractor it will pull tree stumps out low end which is what enduro’s are designed for I just wish Yamaha would update it as she is showing her age lacking the tech of the newer enduro tourers on the market
Great input and additional context! Thanks for sharing Brad!
Agree 100%👍
I bought my s10 back in March of this year and my only 2 complaints were the seat is a bit uncomfortable after an hour of riding and there's a lot of helmet buffeting above 70mph. I fitted the madstad bracket and a puig touring windshield about a month back and it transformed the bike. I still have yet to fix the seat problem I'm experiencing but that being said, I think it's just about perfect for what I wanted from a motorcycle. Comfortable, good wind protection, as reliable and low maintenance as possible, and a jack of all trades. Oh... and you can't forget the cruise control. 😃
Img totally happy with mind...I put a delkevic slip on pipe.and a richochet skid plate to protect the underside...👍
@@bassbender7847 I had problems with seating position , my neck and shoulder was getting tense after 1 hour of riding. After lots of tweaks with risers and seat, what I found just slide back on the seat when doing long distance. That changed angle of knees and relaxed shoulders and neck.
I have a 2020 Super Tenere. It has plenty of power, and there is a big difference between Touring mode and Sport mode. It’s not a sport bike, it is a touring bike you can take off road.
The xt 1200 isn't an r6....it doesn't like or need high rev's... it's all about the low and middle grunt :)
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Enjoyed your review. Spot on.
Very nice video, so hope that Yamaha will release a new one soon, lose some weight but don’t lose the shaft drive, a lot of buyers are waiting Yamaha!!!!
Watched your rpm's they below mid all the time when you ride:))I do not know what do you consider fast bike but with exoust and flash this bike is a rocket in mid range . Put it in sport mode ,touring is for dirt and rain. Second gear wide open, you have to hold on tide ,she pulls great.
Would perfectly agree. 112hp is a lot. :) Drop by buddy, you may like it.
Slow as balls. Fast bikes have 150-200 hp. This is a great reliable bike known for being slow and extremely reliable.
Great review thanks!
Practical,affordable,reliable,and aesthetically pleasing as adventure bikes go.I hope 2021's become available in the U.S.
Agree on that. They may make a new model. :) Can check my content.
It is now
@@summerforever6736
Thanks.I’ll grab one in a hot second.
I'm enjoying my new to me 2013 S10! With a McCruise on it, it's awesome! I keep mine in sport mode!
I've gotta have bags.
Nice video.
Its very simple with this bike !............this is awesome motorcycle I take driveshaft over 150 hp for long distance at any day and yes there is Yamaha reliability and many more. Just awesome bike.
If your not feeling the power then you have it in touring mode, flip the mode switch to put you in sport mode
Long shift throw is due to off-road capability. Keeps the gear from being shifted if the shifter is bumped or bouncing heavy during off-road riding
That makes sense. Thanks for sharing!
That makes sense! I thought something was wrong with me! I owned 2 cruisers before the S10, and couldn't figure out why I was mis-shifting.
The power seems comparable (and a bit better) than my old ST1100. Being 50 pounds lighter than the ST also will help. This is going to be my next bike. Heading out today to look at one.
Just took delivery. VERY easy to handle compared to my old bike (which I loved). So far so good......let's see how the next 20 years go.
@@gregorywills2231 I'm changing form an ST1100 as well, looking for an S10 now.
hey! looking at one of these now compared to a ktm or aprilia capounard. I cannot yet afford gs comfortably. how's it been after a year? @@gregorywills2231
I'm picking up a 2015 S10 ES with only 7k miles and a bunch of upgrades one of which is a Yoshimura RS4 slip on - I'm in north DFW and it's in Austin. Getting a ride down there and going to back road it home!! Can't wait!!
Congrats on the new bike! The ride home is going to be a blast! 💪🤙
I think youre shifting before the bike even enters the powerband.
Nice test ride. These are such a good bikes. :) Keep up.
Thanks for tuning in! 🤙
@@TylerCharest Yeah, no problem buddy., Can check my content.
I am looking for an Adv bike I can daily commute with, so mid-weights are probably more my thing but I love the Super more than the 700. Does it feel heavy in city traffic? Whats the clutch like? thanks!
It didn’t feel heavy in traffic, although it’s pretty large generally speaking so if you need something “nimble” in traffic (tight lane splitting) this might not be ideal. That being said I do see folks on full size adv’s riding around LA pretty often. So it’s possible. The ergonomics are set up very well and the clutch feel was light enough to not leave me with soar wrists. Hope that helps!
Great Review!! This has sealed my confidence in the used S10 I just picked up.
Does this model have the Unified Braking System (along with ABS)?
My street riding has emphasized trail braking and loading the front tire before working it.
The UBS may dampen the front fork compression and not allow as much loading to increase grip before adding lean angle.
That said, It looked like more than enough fun in the turns and the comfort of crushing big miles with good distance/tank and plenty of storage is key for my rides now.
This may just be a learning curve adjustment for me as my next few big rides are wilderness journeys through Canada. Not focused on twisties!
Thanks for the super video!
And I just found my own answer....
"-Super Ténéré has both an Antilock Braking System (ABS) and Unified Braking System (UBS). With UBS, squeezing the front brake alone also provides some rear-wheel braking; pressing the rear brake first overrides UBS for traditional separate front and rear braking action."
Sweet!!!🙂
@@williammahaffy4642 Thanks for finding and sharing the answer! 😂 Enjoy the ride! You're going to have a ton of fun. Stay safe out there!
Nice review...Tks.
Thanks for tuning in!
How does this compare to the Honda AT???
Interesting, thinking about one of these, by chance could you compare it to a versys 1000? Nice video thank you.
Thanks for watching! I’ll see if I can get my hands on a versys for comparison 👍
Ryan F9 is spot on about this bike, just an FYI.
How fast does it go you never got on it hard ???
I need to get me a Super Tenere since I already have the Drone 😁
Your so cool the way you say Tenere such a DB
Gotta have that shaft drive.
Img plenty happy with the stock h.p.....I traded my fz 09 for my tenere...👍
Quick question when you do an ecu remap does it reduce the engines reliability
I don't have a concrete answer, but generally speaking, if the remap brings the performance closer to the edge of the engine's tolerances, it may have an affect on the longevity of the motor. I do believe that the motor on this specific bike is robust enough to accept a remap with minimal to no effect. But it may depend on the specific remap...Hopefully someone else has a better answer!
The best
Great machine.brill engine.
That’s all good. But how does it do off-road? And how easy is it to pick up! I’m sold on shaft drives, I’ve owned several BMWs. I might just buy one of these!
It’s a heavy pig. But I love mine anyways. It’s reliable and easier to live with. The GS (been there) was the hot high maint babe. The ST is the gal that’s not quite as hot but easy on the eyes, always there to support you, hang out with and do fun guy stuff and cost virtually nothing to live with.
👍 Summed it up pretty well.
Have a 1st gen. Its become an enduring favorite of my mcs. I currently have 5 bikes from a wide mix of built HDs to a streetfighter Busa. The S10 is my excellent interstate tourer (huge bags, great ergos, large tank, off road capable, reliable, shaft drive and huge dealer network across US) and crappy weather commuter. Ugly, slow and does nothing great.... BUT if I had a garage fire, Id be at the Yamaha dealer 1st for a new S10 as soon as I got the ins check. It does do all well and super reliable. Touring, commuting, twisties, mild off road. Ive humbled crotchrocketeers and no chicken strips on its tires ripping my local So Cal twisties. It does take some addl $$ to make great. Large aftermarket so its easy. Ive chosen to add large real panniers, exhaust & ecm reflash, real crash protection, windscreen & adj mounts, etc.
Thanks for tuning in! 5 bikes and this would be the first you’d replace?! That’s a strong endorsement 💪 I’m learning to appreciate these bikes more and more. Thanks again for taking the time to share your experience!
You say it’s slow but you humble crotch rockets…
@@Propelled I was refering to the twisties, not straight line.
Comparing the size of a 1200cc adventure bike to a naked sport bike. Awesome.
Are those factory Yamaha side bags or what brand are they? Thanks
I believe they were factory side bags
I'm looking at this bike and interested in your comment on underpowered. It claims 0-60mph in like 3.2s. My voyager 1700 which feels like it pulls is like 5.5s. Comments?
It's certainly not a slow bike. I had expected something with a sharper power delivery, but after listening to some of the feedback, it's smooth power delivery is ideal for offroad scenarios. The bike was planted and gives the rider a sense of confidence under harder acceleration.
I saw your underwhelm awhile ago and it concerned me a little, I just watched this guy smoke a KTM 1290S up to 5th gear and it pulled away at about 120 miles an hour, grip it and rip it Im sure its fine.
110HP/84 lbf.ft torque and it doesn't pull? Maybe you need to open up the throttle a bit?
Relative stuff. I have a few other big HP and torque bikes. He also comes from a few other quick bikes. Keep.in mind its an almostt 600 lb bike. Ive done an exhaust and ecu flash and IMHO it is a slow bike.
@@highwayman1218 Like you said, it is all relative but to say this bike is slow or doesn't pull is BS. I have ridden a bunch of fast bikes too but a fair comparison would be is to compare it to similar class/size bikes. I am over 230lbs and had owned and ridden a VMax and if I still think this bike has more than enough pull, it's more than likely valid.
KTM 170hp 114lbf
Did you basically just get free parking? Is that a thing for motorcycles? We can just go around the gate?
Lol if I can fit around the gate…I usually will 🤷♂️. It’s probably frowned upon but I’ve never had any issues.
What year model is this? Looks so different from other Super Tenere I have seen.
I would love to have this bike.
I believe it was a 2020 or 2021 model.
@@TylerCharest latest version of Super Tenere was last produced 2020 if I am not mistaken.
@@cruiserjohn3790 That's very possible. It was definitely one of the later model years. Apology for not having the info on hand!
@@TylerCharest No biggy
I had a chance to rent one in Madrid (Spain) for a day ride across NW Sierra tour with my youngest brother. It was March 2017. Very pleased with its performance in those twisty sierra roads. Knowing that it has survived the test of time and it is still in production (2022) I would be looking into it coming next used bike (I only for now, buy used). I am very demanding of my technical vehicles. Shaft ALWAYS. Good review.
Thanks for sharing! There does appear to be a lot of love for these bikes. I’d like to throw a leg over one for a longer road trip.
It is no longer in production. It was discontinued due to EU5 regulations. You probably just see bikes that are left in stock.
What helmet are you wearing.
It's an Icon helmet. If I remember correctly...its an airmada frame...
They guy is just leraning the hidden beauty of S10, give him a break folks😊
l love side cases.. Backpacks aren't always cool
Backpacks get old very quickly if you’re lugging around anything with some weight. Side bags or a top case are the way to go!
You where in wrong gear and rpm range to feel fool potential of that engine performance.
Dude says it’s tall without adjusting the seat to the low position which is known to be short enough average height people to flat foot, says it doesn’t pull while riding around in touring mode 😂
Design never change and it looked like 90s gs on steroids
I know ! Why change good product when they're easy to sell people still buying it but i think it's time to retirement for this big girl !! No way she could keep up with other rivals in the same category 12 years of a great career is enough and keep in mind that in Europe she is been discontinued .
Nowadays are way lighter more powerful smoother agile etc etc ...
I never understood people that compare enduro tourers/toures to sport bikes or harleys etc. On you touring machine you need EASY: easy maintanance, easy handling, easy acceleration range and fuel consumption. You don't need 170hp(not that that's not fun) but you don't. You need a linear and easy so you eat up the km's with ease and not get tired! You guys in the states ride really slow compared to europe, maybe you feel the need for that sudden burst that a high hp machine gives? Idk. For us traveling trough most of Europe with 160-180 kph is normal! And twisties are twisties. Check out schaf videos, not saying everyone rides that good but most are close lol.When i saw you use "technical twistie" in that light corner i had to replay that part, still didn't see the technical part.
Great comment. Can check what I do. Sure, when have time.
Coyote. Yup
This guy should get a moped!
it sounds like your very pessimistic.
you can’t bring yourself to liking it because you’re so stuck on wanting to not like it.
clear your mind, and take the bike for what it really is without any preconceived opinions.
yamaha builds a good product, and that bike isn’t missing anything.
adventure bikes are just that, and not designed to win any races,
i know the ducati multistrada V4 is a race bike but that not fair.
that who they are.
adventure bikes are awesome.
that yamaha is awesome.
enjoy man enjoy.
i’m glad to see you put water in that storage box rather than a case of beer. smart man smart !!!
Fair point and sage advise, thank you for sharing!
I'll stick with my GSA.
That’s fine, 10,000 lighter in the pocket also, no way in hell, is the gs, worth 10 grand more.
@@trucker-d4161 the gsa is the top of the class but it take deep pickets where the average working guy has the two best proven bikes ever made the S10 and the ATAS.
4th. gear on the freeway? why?
Hell, why not 2nd. gear keep it at the rev limiter! Doofus!!
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FFS, turn down the music at the start! Your voice volume was fine, but then it cuts to obnoxiously loud music. I know this is an old video, but I hope over the last couple years you've improved this aspect. Almost an immediate skip for that. I had to cut my volume in half, and then when you start to talk I can't hear you.
As for the review I find the complaints of power on this bike to be a bit absurd. Is it a Hyabusa? No. Is it underpowered? No. It's like complaining that a mustang is underpowered because it doesn't match a Lamborghini. It's not underpowered at all.
🤦♂You have to turn cruise control ON before you can set it! For crying out loud. I'm out of this video. Good luck with your channel, but there's already so little Super Tenere content this kind of bumbling uninformed content isn't actually adding anything.
Blah blah blah
T = touring