Ned Batchelder - Big-O: How Code Slows as Data Grows - PyCon 2018

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  • Опубліковано 27 жов 2024

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  • @sanbalestrini
    @sanbalestrini 6 років тому +17

    Great presentation. May seem a little basic at first to someone somewhat familiar with the topic, but everyone should appreciate how well he distills the concepts in such a short amount of time

  • @Niko753A
    @Niko753A 2 роки тому

    Straight to the point. All in a nutshell. Thank you so much for clarity, briefness and of course precision and ease of grasping these concepts. Low Japanese bow of honor for you, my friend Ned

  • @hichamberbache5762
    @hichamberbache5762 4 роки тому +3

    Great talk this made the concept a lot easier to understand, thanks !

  • @bksbd007
    @bksbd007 4 роки тому +2

    one of the best presentations. thank you for such a nice talk.

  • @ReaverKS
    @ReaverKS 6 років тому +5

    I don't normally comment on UA-cam videos but this is an excellent video. And I'm already familiar with big O too, he just says it so much better.

  • @darrinmc
    @darrinmc 2 роки тому

    Really great talk Ned.

  • @gcasanas1
    @gcasanas1 6 років тому +2

    I love this presentation.

  •  3 роки тому +1

    Really awesome presentation 👍 🐍

  • @naeemkhoshnevis
    @naeemkhoshnevis 4 роки тому +1

    Great presentation. Big-O is an important topic and difficult to comprehend. I also read the Toxic experts' blog post. It is very well written. That is so true. Unfortunately, these toxic experts idealogy says, "either learn everything the way I know or do not even think about it." As long as they are commenting on your posts, "anonymously," we can say it is OK, and we can ignore them. However, sometimes they are in charge of your grades, or they are your manuscripts' reviewers. That is the sad part of the story.

  • @davidjames1684
    @davidjames1684 2 роки тому

    A better way is to say how the speed of a process changes as the input size changes. Who said it only has to grow? For example, if your task was to quickly sort 1,048,576 numbers such as 3.1416, someone might say using an O(n^2) algorithm wont work in a reasonable amount of time, but that is not really true. For example, if you bust up those numbers into 1,024 groups of 1,024 numbers each, bubble sort each group, and then merge them together, you can get it to run in a reasonable amount of time. D&C (Divide and Conquer) is a wonderful thing. Not sure what the new big O would be but the runtime will for sure be MUCH better. Orders of magnitude better.

  • @pradeepnim3689
    @pradeepnim3689 6 років тому +1

    Great presentation

  • @Илья-я8ы3п
    @Илья-я8ы3п 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you! Could you please explain to me why 26:41 there is O(N) in the second example? Because we do multiplication and powering 2 to 61?

    • @Grayhamper
      @Grayhamper 2 роки тому

      Python calculates a Hash for every element in the set. If by chance, the hashes for two elements are the same in the eyes of the hash algorithm, it takes longer to calculate them, because these "hash collisions" need to be resolved. And that takes O(N).

  • @МыколаНетребко
    @МыколаНетребко 2 роки тому

    13:16 does this mean we don’t care about accuracy? Why would we only look through half of the list? Thanks in advance.

  • @nourhanelsayedelaraby4271
    @nourhanelsayedelaraby4271 2 роки тому

    I couldn't find the slides if u could please drop the link to it

  • @yt-1161
    @yt-1161 2 роки тому

    Why is it O(N) when all the hashes are exactly the same ? @26:40

  • @andreypopov6166
    @andreypopov6166 6 місяців тому

    if "..n is usually small" why the hell almost every company ask about it on the interview in addition asking to invert a binary tree, neglecting more important software engineering principles? :)

  • @brotherlui5956
    @brotherlui5956 6 років тому +1

    Great talk

  • @ekbastu
    @ekbastu 6 років тому +2

    Why at 28:50 all the numbers i*(2**61-1) have the same hash. These numbers are different so should their hashes. I am a bit confused.

    • @1234567qwerification
      @1234567qwerification 6 років тому +1

      The word 'hash' (see "Hash_function" in Wikipedia) means that some numbers have the same hash. E.g., if you sum all digits of your birth date, you'll get a number. If I do the same with my birth date and get the same number, it will not mean that we were born the same day (it would be possible, but not for sure (an example of "hash collision") ).

  • @mbj123-v9m
    @mbj123-v9m 6 років тому +1

    Great!

  • @yavorpaunov3877
    @yavorpaunov3877 6 років тому

    Nice talk. The part about small numbers though got me confused. If N is how much data you have, can you have less than 1. I think the N, the data or the iterations can be only non zero integers.

    • @brnddi
      @brnddi 5 років тому +1

      The graph there is a little confusing because the lines on it don't actually represent any real algorithms. An algorithm that does absolutely nothing is O(1), but runs in zero time. An algorithm that has one thousand consecutive copypasted lines of 'i++' is O(1), but does 1000 operations. On the other hand, an algorithm that takes a parameter "N" and then does 'i++' N times would be O(n), but only does N operations; this would make it run faster than the O(1) algorithm if your N is, say, 100 (as it would only perform 100 operations).

  • @SteelBlueVision
    @SteelBlueVision 6 років тому

    Where are the slides?

    • @李晧暐
      @李晧暐 5 років тому +2

      You can look up in the description :)

  • @nbme-answers
    @nbme-answers 2 роки тому

    pg was here (breadcrumbs)

  • @danwroy
    @danwroy 3 роки тому

    Wow what brilliant insight 🙄