Stop using div in React (+ Fragment, Semantic Tags)

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  • @yuumeko_yt
    @yuumeko_yt Рік тому +87

    It’s really nice to review the basics of semantics directly with reactjs and not in an html file. Thanks!

    • @ByteGrad
      @ByteGrad  Рік тому +7

      Thanks, that was indeed the goal

  • @samuelsamson690
    @samuelsamson690 Рік тому +12

    I love how you go straight to the point cover little things in a very huge way I really appreciate.

  • @Waxaranai
    @Waxaranai Рік тому +26

    sometimes people forgot to learn the basics, great content!

  • @ttirasx
    @ttirasx Рік тому +9

    I'm now inspired to replace unnecessary div elements throughout my app with more semantic tags. Thanks for the insights!🙏

  • @thethmuueinsoe
    @thethmuueinsoe Рік тому +7

    Another educator that use semantic tags properly and it feels satisfied. In a world of modern component based era, people are misusing 'div' everywhere. Thank you.

  • @core-developers
    @core-developers Рік тому +5

    I didn't consider the importance of semantic tags until I started using them in schema structures. They make a significant difference in SEO

  • @Adenafun
    @Adenafun Рік тому +4

    Wow, that was great especially since I liked how fast and straight you talk about everything not jumping around the subject. Thanks a lot ❤

  • @abderrahmanemya6602
    @abderrahmanemya6602 Рік тому +1

    your videos suite my short attention span lol. you talk fast but calmly, and you get straight to the point, i learn a lot in a small amount of time. i would love to connect with you on linkedin

  • @BladyCzlowiek
    @BladyCzlowiek Рік тому +4

    this really is the best channel on youtube. The amount of knowledge I gained from this channel. I am looking forward to the nextjs course

  • @tomich20
    @tomich20 Рік тому +1

    thanks, so many years, and now i understand the diff between article and section 🙌

  • @wizard.of.moz.472
    @wizard.of.moz.472 Рік тому +2

    This video was AMAZING! As soon as I started following your advice everything started to click! Please make one explaining forms, etc!

  • @ROL4ND-CSS
    @ROL4ND-CSS Рік тому +1

    Nice video good information, one side note a is the same as a unless when you add an title, aria-label or aria-labelledby on the .
    Here's some more info on it
    ---
    A landmark containing content that is relevant to a specific, author-specified purpose and sufficiently important that users will likely want to be able to navigate to the section easily and to have it listed in a summary of the page. Such a page summary could be generated dynamically by a user agent or assistive technology.
    Authors SHOULD limit use of the region role to sections containing content with a purpose that is not accurately described by one of the other landmark roles, such as main, complementary, or navigation.
    Authors MUST give each element with role region a brief label that describes the purpose of the content in the region. Authors SHOULD reference a visible label with aria-labelledby if a visible label is present. Authors SHOULD include the label inside of a heading whenever possible. The heading MAY be an instance of the standard host language heading element or an instance of an element with role heading.
    Assistive technologies SHOULD enable users to quickly navigate to elements with role region. Mainstream user agents MAY enable users to quickly navigate to elements with role region.
    ---
    As found on www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria/#region

  • @boneykingofsomewhere
    @boneykingofsomewhere Рік тому +2

    What a fantastic video! This really taught me much more about the meaning and value of semantics and layouts, you got a subscriber buddy :D

  • @ElliottTheUnicorn
    @ElliottTheUnicorn Рік тому +1

    learned a lot, subbed

  • @cmdxen
    @cmdxen Рік тому +2

    another hidden gem channel 💯, sleek explanation

  • @blackpurple9163
    @blackpurple9163 Рік тому +1

    This cleared up a lot of underlying doubts, great information, thanks for making it so easy

  • @AlexMercadoGo
    @AlexMercadoGo Рік тому +4

    I wish I wasn’t leaving a Svelte team for a React team

  • @yuvalbra
    @yuvalbra Рік тому +2

    what extensions you used with react and nextjs ?

  • @MrPlaiedes
    @MrPlaiedes Рік тому +3

    As a lead dev, semantics are important for accessibility but eventually you'll likely be building components that are abstracted away from the actual web page. It's still important to minimize div soup.

  • @tomasburian6550
    @tomasburian6550 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for the good stuff, learned something new 👍

  • @joantsyn7578
    @joantsyn7578 8 місяців тому +1

    Great contents!👍

  • @tszhong0411
    @tszhong0411 Рік тому +2

    Thanks! I learned new things today.

  • @sivadhanushuppalapati4041
    @sivadhanushuppalapati4041 Рік тому +2

    This video and the content is too good.

  • @ganesha3559
    @ganesha3559 Рік тому +3

    what an exceptional video! Trust me, this is one of a kind.
    Your semantic tag explanation with a real world popular website as a review -- this content cannot be found anywhere in the web
    for this alone you need a Subscribe + Bell icon hit.
    bravo....

  • @takeshikriang
    @takeshikriang Рік тому +1

    Great video. Clear and concise, thanks

  • @aymenbachiri-yh2hd
    @aymenbachiri-yh2hd 7 місяців тому +1

    Thank you so much

  • @Diego_Cabrera
    @Diego_Cabrera Рік тому +5

    You should make a video on the folder structure best practices.

    • @ByteGrad
      @ByteGrad  Рік тому +1

      It’s on the todo-list, thanks 👍

  • @LynxBaretta
    @LynxBaretta Рік тому +1

    I really really like the content of this video a los of things that I was not paying attention and I was still doing like sometimes using divs instead of fragments and correct use of HTML semantics I that I was not aware of their correct meaning. Thanks!

  • @touratica
    @touratica Рік тому +17

    I really like how informative your videos are, but it sure would be a lot easier to understand you if the sound were a bit louder. That said, keep up with the great content

    • @ByteGrad
      @ByteGrad  Рік тому +1

      Sorry about that, will increase volume

    • @fugduhhh
      @fugduhhh Рік тому +6

      It's loud enough. Just hit the volume increase button a few times 😒

    • @purshotambohra2131
      @purshotambohra2131 Рік тому

      @@fugduhhh correct

    • @tvujtatata
      @tvujtatata Рік тому

      @@fugduhhh When you need to do this for every audio content, it becomes annoying. I dont think such a small recommendation hurts anyone. Dont forget about accessibility that the video is also partly about.

  • @thedelanyo
    @thedelanyo Рік тому +1

    I guess they called this dividities. And the way first versions of reactjs was it feels natural to wrap everything with div

  • @jonzer3028
    @jonzer3028 Рік тому +1

    Learned a lot, thanks.

  • @gotosleepqueen7959
    @gotosleepqueen7959 Рік тому +2

    I learned a lot from this video!

  • @zush2305
    @zush2305 Рік тому +1

    That's really nice way of covering this topic.
    I had the same idea of diving in into HTML semantics, are there any good resources to read about this that you'd recommend?

  • @AlexanderBelov-y8o
    @AlexanderBelov-y8o Рік тому +1

    They didn't teach this in college, lol. Thanks!

  • @tvujtatata
    @tvujtatata Рік тому

    Good stuff most people dont talk about. Personally, I am more interested in writing semantically correct markup although I am a bit confused when it comes to details. Nav without a Header if there is nothing but navigation in the header. Section in Main, if there is only 1 table and 1 button on the whole page.

  • @fdkgamer3631
    @fdkgamer3631 Рік тому +1

    Istg overwhelmed by everyone..Some people is saying div is everything..Some is saying don't start with the div..need a complete video on when to use div

  • @philipepics
    @philipepics Рік тому +1

    is recommended using section with a heading tag, without causes warning

  • @VadimCherepnin
    @VadimCherepnin Рік тому +1

    Which Visual Studio Code theme do you use?

  • @iamabishekbaiju
    @iamabishekbaiju 9 місяців тому +1

    Thanks a lot

  • @manpreetjord1885
    @manpreetjord1885 Рік тому +1

    great work. Covered some really good topics which people generally ignore because it still works for them. Just one thing, I thought I was watching the video on 1.25x but when I checked and it was normal speed.

  • @AndrewAkaHrun
    @AndrewAkaHrun Рік тому +1

    Amazing tutorial!

  • @CottidaeSEA
    @CottidaeSEA Рік тому +1

    This is really not an isolated issue in React. It's everywhere in the frontend world. I've seen many cases where multiple nested divs have been used for simple styling, instead of just putting the classes on the first div.

    • @wchorski
      @wchorski Рік тому +1

      i'd assume a lot of that is coming from no/low code page builders or CSS frameworks that prioritize modularity over markdown simplicity.

    • @CottidaeSEA
      @CottidaeSEA Рік тому

      @@wchorski Partially, but a lot of it is just lack of thought, copy-paste, etc.

  • @manmittiwade
    @manmittiwade Рік тому +2

    Please make tutorial on big project
    your portfolio website is amazing

  • @2gbeh
    @2gbeh Рік тому +1

    You said it all. I always encourage my studs to use HTML5 with strict XML guidelines 😎👍

  • @prashlovessamosa
    @prashlovessamosa Рік тому +1

    Hello brother when will you release react course on udemy still waiting already completed JS.

    • @ByteGrad
      @ByteGrad  Рік тому +1

      Soon. It won’t be released on Udemy. Make sure you’re on the email list :)

  • @eistache3182
    @eistache3182 Рік тому +1

    Ok I didn't know that React Fragments can have a key property, I wish I knew this 3 hours ago, literally.

  • @gwesa2921
    @gwesa2921 Рік тому +4

    Just a tip. Do not use index from an array method as the unique key identifier, it can cause problems when the list is dynamic, meaning that items can be deleted or added. Some of the problems are: Re-rendering, State preservation and animation problems. Better to use an ID, a slug or a hash.

  • @marcowassink3803
    @marcowassink3803 Рік тому

    How do you get these code suggestions?

  • @Ogos-End
    @Ogos-End 9 місяців тому +2

    Your vid has good semantic meaning..

  • @jinxerific
    @jinxerific 11 місяців тому +2

    And I am that Junior Developer...

  • @AWaterKnight
    @AWaterKnight Рік тому

    You can also return an array of elements, though I do not prefer that, either. I guess being able to pull out articles means that the structural content is meaningful, it does not have the environmental styling or accompanied behavior normally if you just pull out HTML code between opening and closing article tag. A lot of divs are spawned to use them for layouting as said in the video. This way, you can separate the concerns rather than passing the styling information to the contained element and making it their responsibility to correctly apply it.

  • @gurvirbaraich2028
    @gurvirbaraich2028 Рік тому +1

    Great, you learned from the comment on your yesterday's video, but it would be nice if you could speak a bit more loud.

  • @ahmednabil4456
    @ahmednabil4456 8 місяців тому +1

    thanks

  • @taborgreat
    @taborgreat Рік тому

    good video. if you let your jaw relax (drop all biting force deep in your molars and cheeks) and use your jaw more while you talk (let it slide side to side and front to back loosely and with energy with each word), it'll really help with your pronunciation.

  • @lel0uchfr199
    @lel0uchfr199 Рік тому

    7:00 for the Link tag you should use to="/" instead of href="/"

    • @jeetgangwar1614
      @jeetgangwar1614 Рік тому +2

      In the react-router-dom's component, the attribute to="/" is used. However, when using the component in Next.js, the attribute href="/" is used instead.

    • @lel0uchfr199
      @lel0uchfr199 Рік тому

      @@jeetgangwar1614 oh never thought about it, thanks for correcting me and understand something I didn’t knew < 3

  • @ryostyles9904
    @ryostyles9904 Рік тому

    Is it same as using the empty fragment? (
    Items
    )

  • @JaGaNezhil
    @JaGaNezhil Рік тому +1

    Great work❤

  • @holyjack5215
    @holyjack5215 Рік тому

    Here it goes refactoring… Thanks for a great video!

  • @harpo187bling
    @harpo187bling Рік тому +1

    Professional React & Next.js

    • @ByteGrad
      @ByteGrad  Рік тому

      I’m finishing up the details. Make sure you’re on the email list for early-bird pricing 😉

  • @luisllaboj
    @luisllaboj Рік тому

    What is the keyboard shortcut to import components? Like for "Link" and "Footer" you click on something and they're instantly imported. How can I do that without having to click on the little lightbulb that imports it for me?

  • @maheshadusumilli7833
    @maheshadusumilli7833 Рік тому

    Hey Bytegrad.
    I tried searching your course in Udemy for CSS. But it is not appearing there while searching. Only with the link it is working. I am able to see only Javascript course. Can you help on how to find your CSS course from Udemy website?

  • @_abuk
    @_abuk Рік тому

    Couldnt you also use display:contents?

  • @okkaraung9512
    @okkaraung9512 Рік тому +1

    waiting for your React, Nodejs and MERN stack courses on Udemy. Big fan.

    • @ByteGrad
      @ByteGrad  Рік тому

      Thanks, make sure you’re on the email list :)

  • @Tin9102
    @Tin9102 Рік тому +1

    according to React docs, you should avoid using index as a key tho.

  • @jaycodes8790
    @jaycodes8790 Рік тому +1

    Hey amazing content,
    Could you please make a video on "Modal based routing" in nextjs.
    How one can implement that on a large project. So that i can share a link of a modal directly.

    • @ByteGrad
      @ByteGrad  Рік тому

      Thanks. I actually have that on the todo-list haha, stay tuned

  • @kamrulislam3841
    @kamrulislam3841 Рік тому

    very impressive teaching but try to sound louder please

  • @404-not-found-service
    @404-not-found-service 10 місяців тому +1

    woow Thanks

  • @complikatd
    @complikatd Рік тому

    Your mic sounds grainy for some reason. It seems you're even using a Shure mic too.

  • @ck-dl4to
    @ck-dl4to Рік тому +1

    section + div everywhere

  • @КимЧенОрк
    @КимЧенОрк Рік тому

    = ?

  • @jerryalmeida
    @jerryalmeida Рік тому

    Stop using && in React Conditional Rendering, use the ternary operator instead

  • @tomfancode
    @tomfancode Рік тому

    Div is good😅
    Sometimes, over engineering

  • @kakaponick
    @kakaponick Рік тому

    Subheding for SEO as always H tag

  • @nabeelali6753
    @nabeelali6753 Рік тому

    All of these are just good-to-know. At work and in production, the hierarchy of importance is:
    1) Functionality
    2) Optimization
    3) Design
    4) "Best" practices aka nerdsht preferences such as these which are actually negligible

  • @abhishekkadam2999
    @abhishekkadam2999 Рік тому

    is division/subdivision for section, etc.
    I don't think it's just for styling.

    • @Burrijw
      @Burrijw Рік тому

      It serves no semantic purpose and is mostly ignored by screen readers and other assistive tech. The only purpose of a div is to contain other elements for styling, and in some cases, to represent a visual element that cannot otherwise be created with a more semantic element.

  • @jayakumar9976
    @jayakumar9976 Рік тому +1

    This great.

  • @sujonpramanik1151
    @sujonpramanik1151 Рік тому +1

    It was awesome

  • @maxterrain
    @maxterrain Рік тому

    Thank God I'm using Vue. It looks so complex, while vue is just html on steroids.

  • @MarekSax
    @MarekSax Місяць тому +1

    Using index as a key is not a good practice.

  • @Ogos-End
    @Ogos-End 9 місяців тому +1

    This video has good.. semantic meaning...

  • @MageLink
    @MageLink Рік тому

    I'm going to use many divs as I want

  • @francismori7
    @francismori7 Рік тому +1

    HTML cluttering is not an argument. The rendered code is for the browser, not for the developer.

    • @ByteGrad
      @ByteGrad  Рік тому

      We often want to inspect HTML in the inspector tool

  • @shariqueansari9439
    @shariqueansari9439 Рік тому +1

    Awesome

  • @robertbutcher222
    @robertbutcher222 Рік тому

    About the button layout example, why do you even need a fragment? Couldn’t you just straight away map over the buttons inside the section?

    • @ByteGrad
      @ByteGrad  Рік тому

      Fragment is still necessary because there will be a span as well for the first one (always need to return 1 React node)

  • @RanaMuaviyaAmeermuaviya
    @RanaMuaviyaAmeermuaviya Рік тому +1

    Are you a robot | alien ?

    • @ByteGrad
      @ByteGrad  Рік тому

      🤣

    • @RanaMuaviyaAmeermuaviya
      @RanaMuaviyaAmeermuaviya Рік тому

      @@ByteGrad Yes Sir, I really struggled to find out a single expression on your face. seems like you are just reading news like an anchor person

  • @Code_express
    @Code_express Рік тому +1

    speak slowly and speak loudly so we can understand what are you saying

  • @adventureswithpasa
    @adventureswithpasa Рік тому

    Stop using section, article always use div.

  • @acegodas7852
    @acegodas7852 Рік тому

    i dont know are you just for real or just joking?

  • @metaxx5253
    @metaxx5253 Рік тому

    Div or die

  • @flamme8587
    @flamme8587 Рік тому

    Excuse me but, why you didn't show the empty element that works perfectly fine to wrap elements in a empty body instead of React.Fragment " "

  • @TheNarstonerz
    @TheNarstonerz Рік тому

    No !

  • @mac.ignacio
    @mac.ignacio Рік тому

    I say just stops using React and use other framework that has better DX.

  • @MatthewKennedyUK
    @MatthewKennedyUK Рік тому

    Better idea… stop using react.

  • @yogeshkadu5453
    @yogeshkadu5453 Рік тому +1

  • @randerins
    @randerins Рік тому +1

    k, I'll start using instead