Why We Get Fooled
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- Опубліковано 28 лип 2024
- The Michael Shermer Show # 366
From phishing scams to Ponzi schemes, fraudulent science to fake art, chess cheaters to crypto hucksters, and marketers to magicians, our world brims with deception. In Nobody’s Fool, psychologists Daniel Simons and Christopher Chabris show us how to avoid being taken in. They describe the key habits of thinking and reasoning that serve us well most of the time but make us vulnerable-like our tendency to accept what we see, stick to our commitments, and overvalue precision and consistency. Each chapter illustrates their new take on the science of deception, describing scams you’ve never heard of and shedding new light on some you have. Simons and Chabris provide memorable maxims and practical tools you can use to spot deception before it’s too late.
Christopher Chabris is a professor at Geisinger, a Pennsylvania healthcare system, where he co-directs the Behavioral Insights Team. He previously taught at Union College and Harvard University, and is a Fellow of the Association for Psychological Science. Chris received his Ph.D. in psychology and A.B. in computer science from Harvard. His research focuses on decision-making, attention, intelligence, and behavior genetics. His work has been published in leading journals including Science, Nature, PNAS, and Perception, and he has published essays in the Wall Street Journal, New York Times, and Washington Post. Chris is also a chess master, games enthusiast, and co-author of the bestselling book The Invisible Gorilla: How Our Intuitions Deceive Us.
Together Daniel and Christopher co-authored the new book Nobody’s Fool: Why We Get Taken In and What We Can Do about It.
Shermer, Simons, and Chabris discuss: • How rational vs. irrational are humans? (Daniel Kahneman vs. Gerd Gingerenzer) • Truth Default Theory, or Truth Bias • deception vs. deception detection • social proof and the influence of others on our beliefs • cults • Bernie Madoff • Harvey Weinstein • Elizabeth Holmes and Theranos • Nigerian spam scam • cheating in chess • habits of thought that can be exploited • information hooks we find especially enticing instead of triggering skepticism • scientific fraud and the replication crisis • how to prevent from being a victim of fraud or a con.
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Been reading the book, will listen to this discussion soon. The book is SUPERB, unbelievably good, with excellent endnotes. I will read the book more than once, but I like to read slowly to savor the book. You will NOT be disappointed. Abe
He is really great. It is superb to hear and read a sane person.
I worked for a company in China. They sold me to their clients as the chief interior architect of the Emirates Palace in Abu Dhabi. after working for the company's head quarters in Bangkok. The funniest element was that I wasn't even told about my professional achievements.
I want Shermer to speak on the UFO Congressional inquiry.
He needs to cover more serious topics, such as why Superman et al. wear their underwear on the outside. UFO and other fictional nonsense can wait.
There is absolutely a case for a debate between Hotez and RFK, but it does not need to be them, it could be Paul Offit and Peter McCullough for example. The point is that vaccines rely on mass compliance, and more and more people are becoming suspicious. If you want more people to accept vaccines, then the conversation must be had - publicly.
To determine the value of experts. Follow the money.
Would be really great to discuss how and why people are readily believing that things like ChatGPT (and previous AIs like Elisa) are sentient. These beliefs seem fueled by our inherent gullibility towards things that appear intelligent (even though they aren't actually are).
40:21 The Bystander Effect.
I live in a high heroin use city. One afternoon, I was walking through busy downtown and saw people walking past a man passed out on the sidewalk, too close to the street. For a second, I thought it was an act because this couple stood over him snickering. I asked them if they knew him, and the guy laughed like a dumbass and said "No, but I think he's high or something!" and they walked away, like it was something amusing. The moment I knelt down trying to revive him while calling 9-1-1, EVERYBODY was stopping and were genuinely concerned. In no time, there were four people helping and a crowd gathering behind us. It turned out the man, obviously an addict, was OD'ing and was down to one breath per minute! The thing is, if I hadn't been aware of the Bystander Effect, which I learned in my 1st semester in college, I could have easily been part of the passive people, assuming someone else would take care of it or that, because nobody was stopping, that he was fine, not dying as he was. The paramedics arrived in no time (the emergency services in my city are badass) and they took him away.
The incident did a number on me, I walked away and started crying, thinking what if this had been my kid, or their kids? Nobody cared until someone made it ok to care.
"Maybe it’s the difference between a scientist and a lawyer. A lawyer’s job is to win the case, not to figure out what’s true." This really helps explain Kennedy's success influencing people with his half-truths and out-of-context references.
Looking forward to this discussion
Good talk. I can't wait for this book to be in the library!!
Not my library. I don't have one. The public library.
Quite true, thank you for scientific evidence. Facts vs opinions .
new book "Nobody’s Fool: Why We Get Taken In and What We Can Do about It," about how our cognitive tendencies and habits and the information we find appealing can be used against us, even though most of the time they’re really effective. In all the movies and podcasts and articles and so on about scams, they talk about what the con artists did, how they were caught, how the victims felt about it, and what the victims did about it. But none of them really explain why people keep falling for these scams.
For the love of God (so to speak) ask your guest some questions about their book!
My God or yours?
@@gilianrampart8514 it was just a turn of phrase. I'm an atheist.
@@gilianrampart8514there is no such thing as "your god"
@@stephenmcgrail7661 of course you are
Thanks for an excellent idiscusion, by both
What I’m amazed about is how mad they get at me when I call them out! It’s so funny!
What they said, in Glengarry Glenn Ross on the nature of marks was, "A man doesn't walk onto the lot unless he wants to buy." (Of course, "they" said lots of things, including what was mentioned.)
Program starts at 5:10.
Thanks. Helpful.
Good chat...
Gene Cernan was the last man on the moon. Met him. Have a signed picture. He used to take his dog to the vet where my wife worked in Houston.
thanks
paul offit should be the guy to debate Kennedy. Hotez does not have the needed projection
If any magician puts the lava back into a volcano, I shall be convinced.
I would be amazed and what to know how it was done
11:19 to 12:50 Anyone know what this play is called?
22:38 to 26:16 - It wasn't just the moves he made; there was actually some evidence he cheated, even if it wasn't dispositive.
Time stanp please
I wish I could like button individual timestamps on most videos. I'm ok liking this whole thing.
30:02 I’m a time-traveler empathetic man, low status man unfortunately -two of these things are true, but which ones are they??
I'm + a = 2 two things
@@michaeljfigueroa You win.
📍1:22:06
Don Shipley is the man for fake seals. hes here on youtube.
Maybe we get fooled because there’s money in politics
How can you tell if someone wasn't in special forces? they tell you they were in special forces.
What’s with Canada Day? Are you kidding? How can an educated American not know that is a celebration of Canada’s birthday? The insularity of Americans staggers me.
We rarely know what's happening with our neighbors down the road let alone across town or our own ancestors.
Google 427M
Scientists seem to be having a golden age. However, they only constitute about 1/10th of one percent of the population if I can trust Google. They need to keep this in mind to retain a high level of credibility.
Scientists do not have to keep anything in mind, kid. They are the 0.1% that keeps you alive. You owe them, not the other way around. ;-)
Non-local realism shows us that objective reality is not what it seems but Michael and his fellow sceptics dismiss it and cling to the dying paradigm of Materialism insisting the brain creates consciousness whilst denying subjective experiences that tell us this is not so.
That "may" hold for the very very small but we are talking about humans here at a scale where even Newton's laws are valid. If our brain was the size of an electron there might be a little to your thesis...but even then I doubt it. To jump from
- 10 to the 19 m ( quanta which have never been divided ) to the macroscopic ( our conventional perceptions ) and claim they are the same is not honest.
Why don’t you invite RFK Jr onto your channel?
Why do people get fooled? Because they are not very smart on average. ;-)
You sure look serious in your picture. Maybe you were more serious when you were so much younger.
Capitalism has been found to be extortion. Swindling is the attendant reasoning.
Mind must be fed and extortion the only means.
Gert Postel, a german mailman who acted like he was a psychiatrist was able to become a head chief psychiatrist of a big psychiatric clinic without even having a medical degree or any experience working in that field
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gert_Postel
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Ghosn