I have my favorites. I like shooting 6.5 CM because it shoots very much like .308 out to 3-400 yards but it just so smooth and the recoil is so tame. I love my .308’s because the round is just so good all around for hunting out to 400 yards, has so many offerings from bolt actions to military styled rifles and any shop that has any ammo will have .308. I shoot a lot of 5.56 because I have AR’s and a Mini and is so cheap to shoot. I just got into .300 AAC because it is great in carbines and has a bullet viable for hunting deer and pigs and you can reuse your AR lowers and Mags. It is also a bit more precise than 7.62x39. Lastly 7.62x39 due to my interest in the Russian guns. And it is still cheap to shoot.
Interesting and informative as usual sir. My 30 06 is still my go to, yes I'm an old guy lol. It wouldn't be my selection to go grizzly hunting, but I'll take it for moose and pack 220 grain in a spare clip just in case. If I wanted to shoot paper or vermin I would buy a 22-250, or maybe. 223.
Love the video .. different in my area seems like all u can find for new rifles in the store are all 6.5 cm or 6.5 prc or 300 prc . I see maybe 1 300 wm and 1 7 mag in the store
Id have to say the 30-30 winchester and the 45-70 govt should be on that list. There are millions of rifles chambered for the 30-30 winchester, and at one time it was the most popular hunting cartridge in north america.
I have shot all the new rifle calibers and there all good rifles, but I still love all my old calibers and shoot them all the time . 243 , 2506 , 264 win mag , 270 , 7mm , 3006 , 300 win mag , 338 mag , and the 375 acly, alot of people love the 6.5 creedmooe,but my 264 win mag shoots faster and I don't have to aim 6 ft high to shoot 800 yards,
When you do this for .308 do you include the 7.62x51? You talked about the AR platform for 300 blk and .223/5.56 but i seemed like you left out 7.62x51
i’ve got a couple 308’s i love, just added a 6.5 prc and found ammo at local sporting good store. I think we will start seeing more and more ammo varieties this year
Yes ammo is coming down in price and up in availability. I jus ordered 200 rounds of.308 Norma for 70 cents a round. Same site has 6.5 PRC for 1.60 a round. I was all set on getting the PRC then sat back and took a hard look at the kind of shooting I do and realized.308 can do 99% of it.
This year was the 40th year I hunted with my Rem 700 30-06. I got it for Christmas when I was 17. Took a mule deer at 326 yards. I was happy with it. Going to upgrade to a Magpul stock for next year.
I would like to see top 10 cartridges that have the highest sales per state. See how it varies from eastern states, to mid west, south, west, south west, etc.
I would say 308 is low on the sales list because it's been around for so long and being off a mil spec round (7.62x51) most people have already stocked up.
Funny fact…if you get on numerous state hunting websites, especially Alaska…they recommend only the most seasoned shooters bring anything more than a 30-06. They highly recommend the 30-06 for all North American game including elk and moose. It’s said that the 30-06 has the most recoil the avg shooter can shoot accurately. Now if you start having a brick of a rifle built, or add a muzzle break that could change that of course. Although, then you have the blast from the muzzle breaks some people can’t take. Which leads to poor shooting. Now days with most scopes having some sort of ballistic turret, a laser beam isn’t really necessary. Even a 30-06 zeroed at appx 238yds can shoot anything 0-275ish yard with no hold overs etc.
Most popular cartridge of the past 116 years is the 30-06. Still the best all round cartridge for everything in Africa excluding the Big 5 even though it's killed everything Africa has to offer. Edit On the farm we had 3 choices in rifles when we hunted. 22LR, 243 Win and 30-06. The 243 Win killed a lot of animals but the 30-06 was my go to rifle. I have killed a lot of game with it and it has never let me down. I own a lot more rifles now but the 30-06 is still the rifle I grab whenever I go hunting. My June 2022 hunt includes springbuck, gemsbuck, warthog and eland. The only rifle I considered was the 30-06. I like my 300WM, 6.5CM etc. but they are safe queens when it comes to hunting. All the new kids on the block will always be measured against the 30-06 but in my (biased) opinion they will always fall short. My wooden stock Sako 30-06 has not let me down in 30 years of hunting African antelope and I doubt that it will start failing me just because there are new calibers. If there is anything that a 30-06 running 165gr Nosler Accubonds at around 2850fps wont kill, I have not encountered it yet.
@@salninethousand2496 I grew up on a farm where we had 3 choices in rifles when we hunted. 22LR, 243 Win and 30-06. The 243 Win killed a lot of animals but the 30-06 was my go to rifle. I have killed a lot of game with it and it has never let me down. I own a lot more rifles now but the 30-06 is still the rifle I grab whenever I go hunting. My June 2022 hunt includes springbuck, gemsbuck, warthog and eland. The only rifle I considered was the 30-06. I like my 300WM, 6.5CM and 375H&H but they are safe queens when it comes to hunting. All the new kids on the block will always be measured against the 30-06 but in my (biased) opinion they will always fall short. My wooden stock Sako 30-06 has not let me down in 30 years of hunting African antelope and I doubt that it will start failing me just because there are new calibers. If there is anything that a 30-06 running 165gr Nosler Accubonds at around 2850fps wont kill, I have not encountered it yet.
By salesa alone 22LR is the most popular cartridge of all time. It outsells everything else by an order of magnitude and is used in every country that has firearms.
6.8 western might take off due to availability of the 6.8 bullet now that the military just signed the contract for 6.8x51. If 6.8 ever had a chance to take off, nows the time.
@@TexanUSMC8089 I totally agree but I was talking about reloading purposes. The bullet itself will allow people to reload 6.8 western way cheaper due to military mass producing the 6.8x51
@@TexanUSMC8089 Its not going to be a standard issue rifle or see mass adoption. Apparently its just going to spec ops guys for certain mission specific applications. The military plays around with a lot of different setups. They have had limited use of 6.8 spc, 6 arc, 6.5 creed, etc. Sometimes they give it to some infantry guys to test out for any unforeseen problems first.
@@TexanUSMC8089 I saw an all brass version on a review. Wasn’t too impressed with the ballistics of the lower pressure all brass version, pretty much 6.8 creedmore performance
@@TexanUSMC8089 they literally already have a brass cased version. But what is the point in getting it if you don't have the pressure? it basically turns into a 7mm-08 without it.
I have been shooting a 10lb BSA 30.06 for 47 years , old age & crock right eye , I got three left hand TikkaT3X RIFLES .223 , .243 & 30.06 .i had heard the Tikka T3X boots like a mule & SHOULDN'T buy one because of recoil but it's mild same as my BSA .30.06.THE ONLY 30.06 . I have owned that booted like a mule was a BLR 30.06 ,I DON'T HAVE A MAN BUN BUT I AM 68 / last Friday I shot my first red stag on the run @125 yards left handed , one shot one dead stag, still got it left or right handed ,
My favorite hunting cartridge didn’t make the list, the 270Win. But, some of my other faves made it. I was a hold out for the 6.5cm. I really didn’t want to like it, but have to admit that for my long range shooting, I am a fan. I bought a rem 700 varmint, put it in an mdt chassis with a Vortex scope, leupd base, and I am hooked.
I just bought two new bolts. I got a 16.25" barrelled .308 that will be my first suppressed rifle and a .375 Ruger that will be my bear or bigger game, ie moose etc. rifle. I have reviewed 6.5 creedmore and 6.5 PRC and I like some of their points, but don't really need them. My 7mm Rem Mag is my goto long range hunter, I have a 6.5 grendel AR that handles shorter mid range deer and varmints and the 308 is being set up as a do all. I've got loads with 110 gr. shorties that can be used for lighter game, subsonics with 190 gr. for suppressed silent close deer hunting and 200 gr. long range, that work on Elk size up to 450 yards. Light and easy to carry is the main goal with the .308.
My son wanted to buy his first centerfire rifle a coupe of years ago and as much as I tried to convince him all he needed for down in south Louisiana was the .308 Win, he ended up buying a .375 Ruger. He doesn’t have a lot of disposable income and now he wishes he had listened to me. That cartridge is a Thumper for sure. Hurts deep all three ways. Front on the target animal, the shoulder and the wallet!
@@CC-tk4ik it is a thumper. My little brother thought I was exaggerating, and it bit him hard. He took two weeks for the bruising to subside. If I'm losing for deer size game, I'd load a 220 gr tired bullet and download to .375 Winchester speed.
Picked up a Tikka CTR in 6.5 creed, with the Hornady 143gr ELD-X that thing is a freaking tack driver. Not disappointed in the slightest. I think my next bolt gun will be a T3X lite stainless in 300 winmag, for when taking shots on bigger game is a bit further out than what I feel comfortable using the 6.5 at.
And it's been around for ~ 125 years (6.5x55 Swede). The new(er) 6.5's are just lucky they haven't taken the WSSMs route, e.g. marginal gains with 50%+ increase in ammunition cost. The new boys are okay but not that much better to get overly excited about. I have a couple of Creeds and enjoy them but have caused me to become more fond of my 120 year old Gustav M96.
I really wanted to get a Savage 110 Ultralight in 6.5 PRC, but who knows when brass or ammo will be available. I ended up reviewing the ballistic calculations and bought a good old .270 win. It's sooo close to the 6.5 PRC ballistically. I think I can deal with a little bit longer throw on the bolt. Really surprised that the .270 wasn't in the top 9 for any of the criterion.
Just ordered my 6th 308 last week. Almost went for a 6mm creedmoor but didn't want to start loading for another cartridge. 243 would have been my next choice. Think if I were to get into another cartridge it would be the 6 ARC. In a bolt.
Every new cartridge that comes out is the next best thing .. The 30-06 ,is a proven hunting cartrige been around since 1906 and still popular for a reason ..won't wear your barrel out and shoots up to bear stopping pieer 240 grain woodleigh bullets When will it stop? Until you're using ray guns ?...hunting should be just that ..where it takes some sweat and effort to take home some game. Shooting animals at a mile away takes everything personal out of the hunt.hunters today are just plain lazy You aren't much if a hunter if you can't get within 6 football fields away from a deer or am elk and put some effort into the stalk . They wanna sit with a 90 power spotting scope and kill animals at 1500 yds ..that is not hunting it's sniping .I have no respect t for that You've stopped having the fair chase factor involved in hunting Most of you couldn't even identify a deer or elk bed or hoe fresh a track is Or how fresh scat is . It'd just sad all these lazy ultra long range hunters have lost what hunting is all about .it's being 1 on 1 with nature and being on its terms
I heard someone ask a guy at the bar "whats the best beer you ever had, guy says simple its the one in my hand". All I can say is when I go to the store, (Cabelas, Walmart, Academy, Bass Pro etc), I consistently see 308 and 270 ammo. That pretty much sums it up. If I were to be in a mood to buy a rifle it would unquestionably be in 308.
I own a few 270 win and a few 308 win. I like them both but it always seems that the 308’s are a bit finicky about ammo. Once you find ammo they like, they’re great. But all the 270’s I’ve had will shoot a bunch of different brands accurate.
That's all I see too, Well that and a butt load of .223 loads and a smattering of 6.5 cm offering. I wanted a .243 for predators & a occasional deer but since I don't hand load & haven't seen any .243 ammo in my local gun shops in 6 months or better I reckon I'll do the, " when in rome" deal and get the bipolar 6 & half "master of disaster" apollo creed .
interesting results based on what I see around my neck of the woods. Almost no rifles in 6.5PRC and zero ammo for them. 6.5 Creed rifles abound, with no ammo to feed them. Loads of 223/556 and 308 ammo, but no rifles to buy chambered in them.
I do believe the 300 wsm beats damn near everything for effcient whilst keeping power whats some of yalls favorite caliber ill tag whom ever says my fav and its not the 300 wsm tho ive come to love it
I was looking at getting 6.5prc, but worried about how new it is. Glad to see it featured so much, hopefully means it will still be around in the future
Cool round but if you don't reload, Hornady 6.5 PRC ammo price is almost exactly twice the cost of 6.5 Creedmoor ammo. Not sure what the future holds, other than massive inflation, crappy gas prices, and expensive groceries.
Ive shot a many a rifle in my day ! But........ nearly all of them have the same bullet drop at 300/ 400/ 500 / 600 yards. With a 200 zero 300 yards 7 inches 400 yards 14 inches 500 yards 35 inches 600 yards 72 inches.
7-08 was always considered a "girl gun" around here. I have no idea why. I don't hunt much, but try to shoot when I can. I went on an impromptu hunting trip with a buddy last year. I borrowed his loaner (intended for girls that he brings to his camp). I shot it twice the afternoon before. It was dead on. I dropped the first buck that I had taken in years the next morning. It was about a 200 yard shot, which is kind of far in my area, for deer. I got a model 700 in that caliber as soon as I got home. (And two boxes of ammo that I owed my buddy). I love it. It's definitely an underestimated and underappreciated round. I hope that it never catches on. I have found ammo when everything else was pretty much wiped out on more than one occasion. I was also eyeballing a nicely setup AR at my favorite gun store chambered in 7-08. It was a little bit out of my price range. When tax returns came in, I rushed to scoop it up. It was gone. My frickin boss had bought it the day before!
Why wouldn't you want it to be more popular (I own one fyi, it's great) ? In rifle cartridges, popularity equals more ammo, options and development and a future. What hurts a cartridge is not being popular. Try finding multiple options for.257 Roberts or .260 rem. Great calibers but not very popular so there's no reason for companies to put money into them.
@@letsdothis9063 Yeah, I've never shot one but it looks like a great cartridge. Every time I mention how good I think it is, someone says "Oh yeah, my daughter loves hers." 😒 Makes it seem less manly. I'm still tempted though. I also have hard kicking guns. I have nothing to prove.
@@rickyanke9407 I absolutely see your point. I loved my ex wifes .260. .260 is actually ballistically superior to 6.5 Creedmore. But, as you stated, it's almost impossible to find, and has limited offerings. I was halfway kidding about the 7-08. But it does seem to be in that sweet spot as far as popularity goes. Like I said before, I have found it on shelf more than once, when .308 and 30-06 (two extremely popular and common cartridges) were picked clean. I have a couple of guns that are chambered in .308. One is my "main" hunting rifle. During ammo scares, it gets scooped up really quick. The 7-08 is still there. It's kind of like the old addage "you will always be able to find 9mm. It's everywhere". During the last ammo shortage we all learned that's not necessarily the case. All of the popular rounds are the first to go when people start to panic buy.
Absolutely unreliable data! Search engine optimization and custom rifle chamber inquiries means nothing, these findings yield small percentages. Ammunition purchase data these days don't include what people actually want. If all you do is use factory ammunition then you're at the mercy of available ammunition therefore not reliable data. 7mm reloaders are screaming for available bullets! Bullet manufacturers don't seem to be offering 7mm bullets. Where are the 7mm bullets for 7mm-08 Remington, 7x57 Mauser and 280 Ackley Improved cartridge reloaders that are extremely popular? .338 caliber rifle cartridges (338 Federal, 338-06 A-Square, 338 Winchester Magnum, 340 Weatherby Magnum, 338 RUM and 338 Lapua Magnum) to name a few are incredibly popular. Rifle sales? Again firearm manufacturers are pushing the latest fad. Your findings have zero meaning. 6.5 Creedmoor along with your doomed 6.8 Western factory ammunition are meant for target shooting not big game. Long high BC bullets produced in factory 6.5 Creedmoor and 6.8 Western are not properly constructed bullets for taking big game.
I really hope to see 300prc more and more. Federal and Berger are supposed to have factory ammo coming to compete with Hornady. Really enjoy shooting that cartridge. I love my 6.5 creedmoor, 300 win mag and 308. Ammo for those seem to be no issue really to find
Now tell us what's the best bullet for Elk Pick 300 win mag so everybody and his brother knows you picked an Elk rifle Now show us what's better nosler partition, Barnes X,swift A frame or something else Thanks
I wonder if ammo sales are skewed simply because it’s so damn hard to find much of anything in certain calibers, and/or because hunting seasons are still months away?
If I ever go to hunt paper I'll get a 6.5 CM. Until then I'd want something with more giddy up go. 6.5 /06 has more, but then I never did go for trends.
308 owners such as myself, stocked up on ammo a few years ago. There is a ton of 308 ammo now but it's way expensive. That is the reason 308 sales are down.👍
6.5 Creed will be at the top of sales as long as that is all that's available. That "meh" cartridge is being shoved down our collective throats. I was at a Scheels over 1/2 of the rifles there were 6.5 Creed. Trying to find something useful like a 7mm.08 or 25.06 is difficult at best.
.308 is better than 6.5 in knockdown power under 500 yards. Show me someone that can effectively take advantage of the 6.5 Creedmoor past 500 yards and I'll happily tell them to buy one. But I'll stick to .308
@@malachiwhite356 you've got me in a bind, can I PROVE anything to you? Probably not. But the performance metric you're looking for is ft/lbs and its a widely recognized method of measuring energy, separate from penetration or accuracy. Plenty of sources available that will illustrate my claim. The .308 exceeds the 6.5 creed in ft/lbs out to approximately 500 yards. Which, is further than the common rifleman has the skills/equipment to exceed.
@@brianrees2837 I agree with all your points, and yes I am familiar with foot-pounds as a method of measuring the kinetic energy of a moving object. However, I dispute the assertion that it is closely related to killing ability or "knockdown power," that's all. Energy is not well correlated to effects on game, despite attempts by gunwriters to claim otherwise, but it's all we've got.
6.5 creedmoor is a great round. it's just very annoying to me that gun stores have nothing but 6.5cm rifles on the wall but they have 0 6.5cm ammo. meanwhile while i was looking for a new 308 rifle none of the ones i wanted were in stock but there was shelves full of the ammo
Haha that's awesome. I still call it the "man bun" cartridge and probably always will, however I have shot one and I honestly can't say I didn't fall in love with it. Definitely will probably end up owning one before my ticker stops ticking 🤙🏻
ammo sales could be an obsolete factor. theres only certain ammo being produced, on average. if the state of affairs were normal and all ammo were being produced i could see this as a factor. people are just buying up whatever they can. heck, youre buying rifles only because of available ammo these days
I’ll be honest I got a custom rifle chambered in 6.5 cm and the hornady 143 eldx factory ammo shoots just as good if not better than anything I’ve been able to load for it.
Just the ammo cost comparable to .308 makes me cry. I bought my first hunting rifle in 6.5 and I've slightly regretted it. Nothing I personally will be doing can't be done with .308 but, I went with the better cartridge for range anyways...
I think he is going by online sales according to his blog. Most people buy at stores. .223/.308 is easy to find here in DFW TX. 6.5 cr .300 blk are twice the price and rare, never seen 6.5 prc since COVID,
6.5 prc is definitely the new cool kid and well deserving of it, it’s brand new but there is so much to like, it’s a bit of a barrel burner if loading light and fast but is a superb cartridge.
6:47 Talking about why 308 isn't higher on the list... my guess is raw availability. Man, I havent bought a box of 308 in quite a while now because all that's left to buy is the insanely expesive $5+/shot rounds. Even when I was "moderately ok" with buying them factory at $2.50/shot for a box of 20, I'm now looking at reloading equipment and just re-using the brass i've kept so far
Maybe you're talking Buffalo Bore, which is $48? Even then it's still only the same price as the 6.5 brands below. I'd assume if they pushed out 6.5's they'd be at least $59.
@@IcarusErm I re-read my comment and forgot to mention these are CAD prices, my bad. Each time iv'e visited a local sporting goods store or sports section of a store, the ammunition for 308 is nearly empty and the only stuff available is the $60-$85 (before taxes) boxes of 20. No Federal Power Shoks, no Hornady White Tail, etc. I found exactly one box of Winchester super x power points for $45 and briefly considered it. As well as box of 50 rounds of GECO sport grade for $120 before tax :\ Those were the best deals i've found lately in my neighbordhoods. I admit it could be im just late to the party? Here in Canada at least, thanks to the new registry stuff there's been a hard push for people to get their non-restricted rifles and buy up the ammo to feed it for a while
Glad to see the tried and true 243W made it on the final list, but I honestly am surprised that the 300 Norma Magnum didn't make the "custom rifle builders" list.
Stunned and amazed that the 30-30 and .270 Winchesters didn't make any lists. Just a few years ago, they were in the top five and had been for decades. I would really like to hear somebody explain that.
Right? Tgere are 2 different 6.5 on the list but no 30-30 winchesters. I promise you there are more 30-30 winchester chambered rifles in the world than any 6.5
What about that 6.5-300 weatherby in the titanium weatherby for that sheep hunt? The optic is the hardest choice for that. I think there’s a March 3-20 at like 22 oz. You could just stick with a Leupold mark 3 as well to save more weight.
Interesting. I would have thought 30-30 Winchester would have been there somewhere. It's taken more deer in North America than any other cartridge according to most sources. I've always had a 30-30 in my collection.
I love 30-30 as well and it definitely still has its place due to all the win model 94's still in action. But I saw ammo yesterday for 40 a box for the federal blue box! Ugh!
I think 6.5 Precision Rifle Cartridge will never get really common. 6.5 x 49 Creedmoor, .308 Winchester, .300 Winchester Magnum, 7 millimeter Remington Magnum and 30-06 already fill the role. I would avoid that rifle cartridge unless you like paying too much for rifle rounds. I do not really like .243 Winchester either as once you fire 3,000 rounds through a rifle, the barrel is burned out. Go with 6.5 x 49 Creedmoor over .243 Winchester in my opinion.
if you ever get around to it, could you review a glass bedded M1A Scout Squad used to tag an Elk... if Elk is a bit out of your reach, Deer then. Please cover preferred ammo weight, etc. (lead free) right ? lol
I'm surprised to see the 30-06 slip! The 308, Creedmore, and 6.5 PRC... As short action cartridges go.... These would be number one... In long action, 30-06... maybe 7mm magnum, then 270. These would be my pick 300 Magnums kick too much. But for me personally... 358 Winchester, or a 6.5x55...
The other most popular calibers you will find ammo and rifles for nearly everywhere are .270 Win, .350 Legend, 7mm-08 Rem, .22-250 Rem, .270 WSM, .300 WSM, .30-30 Win, 25-06 Rem, .17 HMR, .22WMR, .45-70 Gov. Smaller country gun stores, off the beaten path will have most of the calibers you mention, but these are the others on the shelf more often than not.
If they made the semi auto 30-06 M1 Garand brand new and able to shoot modern 30-06 ammo would now be best used for deer hunting in hog country when going to the stand or blind. I used to carry a bolt action 30-06 til my stand one morning was surrounded by hogs and per state regs only had a 5 round mag today an AK with suppressor is my best friend when out for a walk on my property on any day.
I'm not sure the custom rifle list is a good metric. Another list that would be interesting (but nearly impossible to compile) would be a list of custom rifle (or stock rifle) chamberings that people eventually have re-chambered to something else. I've heard .28 Nosler is a very common round for people to have re-chambered because it wasn't what they expected, or because they felt the price of components and ammo was too costly and/or component selection and availability was too limiting. Same goes for other PRC/Weatherby/Creedmoor/whatever rounds as well. From gunsmiths I have talked to, those rounds have a higher percentage of people having them changed to something else over time. So, while a list can be compiled for custom rifle sales, it's not really a true indicator of customer satisfaction and true popularity. Because how truly popular are any one of those rounds if they have a higher incidence of being re-chambered? As far as ammo and rifle sales, I am actually surprised more people are buying more .30-06 than .308. Given the amount of platforms that .308 is available in, I would have assumed .308 would be selling more than .30-06 on a sheer volume basis. Especially given there seemed to be a bit more of an ammo shortage with .30-06 than .308 during the pandemic. As a .30-06 fan myself, seeing it outsell .308 is actually kind of heart-warming and reassuring in a way, given that .30-06 is pretty much a hunting-only round, which really goes to show just how popular it still is with hunters. It's just perennially a great and effective round for so many species and applications.
I’d have to dispute this. I work in a gun store and 6.5 cm rifles sit on the shelf. People constantly ask when we’re getting 308s in. We barely have 6.5 ammo available- not bc it’s being sold out BUT we’re NOT getting it sent from corporate - 308 is stacked high and we’re selling it constantly. Now this is a single data point presented by me but I’m hearing the same thing from out of staters. I was going to jump on the 6.5 train but my next rifle is going to be a 308.
For what is worth We have a small Taxidermist shop Tuskegee Alabama And for the last (2) years Most deer have been killed 308 More or less 30-06 and 6.5 together second place
I would not go by ammo sales for 1 simple fact. I always found 308 ammo on the shelfs thru the pandemic but rarely any other cartridge never seen any of the 6.5's which are supper popular here where i live. Now that the ammo makers are back up and running, ammo is back on the shelfs what are the calibers you are finding on the shelfs. Basically 6.5 CM, 308, 223/556, 9mm 40sw ect. The point is the ammo makers are making ammo for the guns and calibers that are being sold not so much as to whats out their. I didnt see 30-06 on the shelf for 2 years till this past deer season here where i live. Where i live the 06 has always been very popular same with the 270. I'd go by whats selling the most as far as actual gun sales.
.308 sales are probably lower because if you shoot a common .308 you have a stock pile already and not willing to paying up to $30-$50 a box. I haven’t bought .308 rounds in years and won’t until prices get reasonable again. I can last mother few years on my stock.
If find this hard to believe may at that time and those type of rifle and for a short span of data.last year I stood in lines at gun and amo many times and could not get 556 308 at all proc or tremors were sold out and most others but 556 308 were selling bullets hundred per sale or like me 1000 because of the type of uses.but still 22rl by the brick would have to be number one and the9 mm for hand gun and carbine
In Europe we are going led free soon. On the British fieldsports Channel they tested the led free 22lr and they saw That it is Not accurate at all. Ist This Trend the end of the 22lr? What small caliber would be an accurate led free caliber (22mag, 22hornet, .17,…) could you test it?
I'm sick of mfg chambering the same 4-6 cartridges because they're all the hot-thing on the web. There's no variety available because of social media and capitalism. Yay.
That list of rifle sales explains the high numbers of used 300 Win Mag for sale used. Too damn much rifle for most folks. I always wonder who’s putting them into that caliber…
Surprised how many in the US don't reload. Must be more hunters/more casual shooters. In the UK most people reload but factory ammunition is also expensive.
When I had my 6.5 prc I couldn’t find ammo for it so I traded it off, now I see ammo every where. I just picked up a 243 and no one had ammo for it, did score a couple of boxes.
I love how all these new rounds are so awesome, but loads from 100 years ago are still pretty practical.
👍🏽 like the .25-06
6.5x55 Swede Over 120 yo
My 30-06 still kicks ass all day !
I have my favorites. I like shooting 6.5 CM because it shoots very much like .308 out to 3-400 yards but it just so smooth and the recoil is so tame. I love my .308’s because the round is just so good all around for hunting out to 400 yards, has so many offerings from bolt actions to military styled rifles and any shop that has any ammo will have .308. I shoot a lot of 5.56 because I have AR’s and a Mini and is so cheap to shoot. I just got into .300 AAC because it is great in carbines and has a bullet viable for hunting deer and pigs and you can reuse your AR lowers and Mags. It is also a bit more precise than 7.62x39. Lastly 7.62x39 due to my interest in the Russian guns. And it is still cheap to shoot.
speaking of 300 AAC, I wonder how well that 8.6 BLK going to be. That's supposed to be the real hunting cartridge of the family.
Interesting and informative as usual sir. My 30 06 is still my go to, yes I'm an old guy lol. It wouldn't be my selection to go grizzly hunting, but I'll take it for moose and pack 220 grain in a spare clip just in case. If I wanted to shoot paper or vermin I would buy a 22-250, or maybe. 223.
Love the video .. different in my area seems like all u can find for new rifles in the store are all 6.5 cm or 6.5 prc or 300 prc . I see maybe 1 300 wm and 1 7 mag in the store
Id have to say the 30-30 winchester and the 45-70 govt should be on that list. There are millions of rifles chambered for the 30-30 winchester, and at one time it was the most popular hunting cartridge in north america.
I have shot all the new rifle calibers and there all good rifles, but I still love all my old calibers and shoot them all the time . 243 , 2506 , 264 win mag , 270 , 7mm , 3006 , 300 win mag , 338 mag , and the 375 acly, alot of people love the 6.5 creedmooe,but my 264 win mag shoots faster and I don't have to aim 6 ft high to shoot 800 yards,
Nice review!
.308- Hand loaders delight. More reloaded than new production ammo sold maybe.....?
When you do this for .308 do you include the 7.62x51? You talked about the AR platform for 300 blk and .223/5.56 but i seemed like you left out 7.62x51
Hi Jim!I Missouri yor buddies!
Specially the fat one!
Please invite them back!!
I'd absolutely love to get a 6.5 PRC as my next rifle. But, I'll go with a .308 simply because I can actually get ammo for it.
I just bought 308 for the same reasons. Ammo is actually obtainable
i’ve got a couple 308’s i love, just added a 6.5 prc and found ammo at local sporting good store. I think we will start seeing more and more ammo varieties this year
Yes ammo is coming down in price and up in availability. I jus ordered 200 rounds of.308 Norma for 70 cents a round. Same site has 6.5 PRC for 1.60 a round. I was all set on getting the PRC then sat back and took a hard look at the kind of shooting I do and realized.308 can do 99% of it.
Same here.
Ditto! It is a shame but the ole' .308 win still works! I had to get one.
More than 100 years and the old 30-06 is still kicking, something to consider.
that and 270 Winchester are still the old standbys.
If you got em, smoke em.
30-06 is the GOAT
30-06, .270, and .308 are the safest calibers for still finding ammo during a panic. Especially.308.
@@adamelam6385 hell yeah man !!! Those calibers are here to stay no matter how faster and flatter the new ones are !!!!
.308 and 233/.556 is the whole isle of ammo at most the stores around me
Been doing a lot of research before I buy my first rifle. The .270 seems to be what I’m leaning towards.
hey wondering what you went with and hows it been.
Good to see my favorite round is still popular! Got to love 30-06!
The old tried and true 30-06 is still hanging tough! That's God's caliber... 👍
It was once the standard military round used in weapons like the M1 rifle or Garand and Browning BAR which hot hard like a mule
This year was the 40th year I hunted with my Rem 700 30-06. I got it for Christmas when I was 17. Took a mule deer at 326 yards. I was happy with it. Going to upgrade to a Magpul stock for next year.
I was surprised to see .270 didn’t make the list at all, anywhere
People buy one 270 and hunt with it, most others are target plinkers and such
The fact that 300 Win Mag, 30 06 and 7 mm Rem Mag are on all the lists,,, LOL... the classics for the win... 308 and 243 also...
I would like to see top 10 cartridges that have the highest sales per state. See how it varies from eastern states, to mid west, south, west, south west, etc.
Yeah like Alaska we'll see more .308 win, 30-06, .300 win mag, 10 mm, etc. Massachusetts though? Errmmm probably not...
It would be easier to do it by geographic region. West, Midwest, Southeast etc
50states wouldn’t be worth it.
I agree, here in Louisiana we sale more of the mags and 308, 30-06, 35 wheelen, and several others like that.
That would be a smart list in more ways then one.
I see a lot of .338wm .300wm 6.5creedmore 7mag 30-06 and 45-70 here in Alaska as well as .308 .223/556 being very popular rifles
I would say 308 is low on the sales list because it's been around for so long and being off a mil spec round (7.62x51) most people have already stocked up.
I just figured it was because .308 shooters were more likely to solve their problem with one bullet. :)
Funny fact…if you get on numerous state hunting websites, especially Alaska…they recommend only the most seasoned shooters bring anything more than a 30-06. They highly recommend the 30-06 for all North American game including elk and moose.
It’s said that the 30-06 has the most recoil the avg shooter can shoot accurately. Now if you start having a brick of a rifle built, or add a muzzle break that could change that of course.
Although, then you have the blast from the muzzle breaks some people can’t take. Which leads to poor shooting.
Now days with most scopes having some sort of ballistic turret, a laser beam isn’t really necessary. Even a 30-06 zeroed at appx 238yds can shoot anything 0-275ish yard with no hold overs etc.
30-06 is overlooked by these latest and greatest types but it is still the king.
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Most popular cartridge of the past 116 years is the 30-06.
Still the best all round cartridge for everything in Africa excluding the Big 5 even though it's killed everything Africa has to offer.
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On the farm we had 3 choices in rifles when we hunted.
22LR, 243 Win and 30-06.
The 243 Win killed a lot of animals but the 30-06 was my go to rifle.
I have killed a lot of game with it and it has never let me down. I own a lot more rifles now but the 30-06 is still the rifle I grab whenever I go hunting. My June 2022 hunt includes springbuck, gemsbuck, warthog and eland. The only rifle I considered was the 30-06. I like my 300WM, 6.5CM etc. but they are safe queens when it comes to hunting. All the new kids on the block will always be measured against the 30-06 but in my (biased) opinion they will always fall short. My wooden stock Sako 30-06 has not let me down in 30 years of hunting African antelope and I doubt that it will start failing me just because there are new calibers. If there is anything that a 30-06 running 165gr Nosler Accubonds at around 2850fps wont kill, I have not encountered it yet.
And best (IMO), too!
@@salninethousand2496
I grew up on a farm where we had 3 choices in rifles when we hunted.
22LR, 243 Win and 30-06.
The 243 Win killed a lot of animals but the 30-06 was my go to rifle.
I have killed a lot of game with it and it has never let me down. I own a lot more rifles now but the 30-06 is still the rifle I grab whenever I go hunting. My June 2022 hunt includes springbuck, gemsbuck, warthog and eland. The only rifle I considered was the 30-06. I like my 300WM, 6.5CM and 375H&H but they are safe queens when it comes to hunting. All the new kids on the block will always be measured against the 30-06 but in my (biased) opinion they will always fall short. My wooden stock Sako 30-06 has not let me down in 30 years of hunting African antelope and I doubt that it will start failing me just because there are new calibers. If there is anything that a 30-06 running 165gr Nosler Accubonds at around 2850fps wont kill, I have not encountered it yet.
So praat n Afrikaanse bek.
I don't disagree one bit.
By salesa alone 22LR is the most popular cartridge of all time. It outsells everything else by an order of magnitude and is used in every country that has firearms.
6.8 western might take off due to availability of the 6.8 bullet now that the military just signed the contract for 6.8x51. If 6.8 ever had a chance to take off, nows the time.
Companies need to produce high bc bullets before this happens
@@TexanUSMC8089 I totally agree but I was talking about reloading purposes. The bullet itself will allow people to reload 6.8 western way cheaper due to military mass producing the 6.8x51
@@TexanUSMC8089 Its not going to be a standard issue rifle or see mass adoption. Apparently its just going to spec ops guys for certain mission specific applications. The military plays around with a lot of different setups. They have had limited use of 6.8 spc, 6 arc, 6.5 creed, etc. Sometimes they give it to some infantry guys to test out for any unforeseen problems first.
@@TexanUSMC8089 I saw an all brass version on a review. Wasn’t too impressed with the ballistics of the lower pressure all brass version, pretty much 6.8 creedmore performance
@@TexanUSMC8089 they literally already have a brass cased version.
But what is the point in getting it if you don't have the pressure? it basically turns into a 7mm-08 without it.
I have been shooting a 10lb BSA 30.06 for 47 years , old age & crock right eye , I got three left hand TikkaT3X RIFLES .223 , .243 & 30.06 .i had heard the Tikka T3X boots like a mule & SHOULDN'T buy one because of recoil but it's mild same as my BSA .30.06.THE ONLY 30.06 .
I have owned that booted like a mule was a BLR 30.06 ,I DON'T HAVE A MAN BUN BUT I AM 68 / last Friday I shot my first red stag on the run @125 yards left handed , one shot one dead stag, still got it left or right handed ,
I'm a lefty also, have the T3X lite in 30 06. No limbsaver. What an easy gun to like, recoil is light as far as I'm concerned.
My favorite hunting cartridge didn’t make the list, the 270Win. But, some of my other faves made it. I was a hold out for the 6.5cm. I really didn’t want to like it, but have to admit that for my long range shooting, I am a fan. I bought a rem 700 varmint, put it in an mdt chassis with a Vortex scope, leupd base, and I am hooked.
I just bought two new bolts. I got a 16.25" barrelled .308 that will be my first suppressed rifle and a .375 Ruger that will be my bear or bigger game, ie moose etc. rifle. I have reviewed 6.5 creedmore and 6.5 PRC and I like some of their points, but don't really need them. My 7mm Rem Mag is my goto long range hunter, I have a 6.5 grendel AR that handles shorter mid range deer and varmints and the 308 is being set up as a do all. I've got loads with 110 gr. shorties that can be used for lighter game, subsonics with 190 gr. for suppressed silent close deer hunting and 200 gr. long range, that work on Elk size up to 450 yards. Light and easy to carry is the main goal with the .308.
My son wanted to buy his first centerfire rifle a coupe of years ago and as much as I tried to convince him all he needed for down in south Louisiana was the .308 Win, he ended up buying a .375 Ruger. He doesn’t have a lot of disposable income and now he wishes he had listened to me. That cartridge is a Thumper for sure. Hurts deep all three ways. Front on the target animal, the shoulder and the wallet!
@@CC-tk4ik it is a thumper. My little brother thought I was exaggerating, and it bit him hard. He took two weeks for the bruising to subside. If I'm losing for deer size game, I'd load a 220 gr tired bullet and download to .375 Winchester speed.
Picked up a Tikka CTR in 6.5 creed, with the Hornady 143gr ELD-X that thing is a freaking tack driver. Not disappointed in the slightest. I think my next bolt gun will be a T3X lite stainless in 300 winmag, for when taking shots on bigger game is a bit further out than what I feel comfortable using the 6.5 at.
I think 6.5 has a really great balance between power and recoil.
And it's been around for ~ 125 years (6.5x55 Swede). The new(er) 6.5's are just lucky they haven't taken the WSSMs route, e.g. marginal gains with 50%+ increase in ammunition cost.
The new boys are okay but not that much better to get overly excited about.
I have a couple of Creeds and enjoy them but have caused me to become more fond of my 120 year old Gustav M96.
The 6.5 is just inherently accurate With very high ballistic coefficient ammunition availability.
I love 3006 ,it seemed to hold the middle position consistently
I really wanted to get a Savage 110 Ultralight in 6.5 PRC, but who knows when brass or ammo will be available. I ended up reviewing the ballistic calculations and bought a good old .270 win. It's sooo close to the 6.5 PRC ballistically. I think I can deal with a little bit longer throw on the bolt. Really surprised that the .270 wasn't in the top 9 for any of the criterion.
The savage 110 ultra light in 6.5 creedmoor in my opinion is probably the one of the best rifles on the planet
Just ordered my 6th 308 last week. Almost went for a 6mm creedmoor but didn't want to start loading for another cartridge. 243 would have been my next choice. Think if I were to get into another cartridge it would be the 6 ARC. In a bolt.
6.8 western needs reloading support and other manufacturers to make them
Every new cartridge that comes out is the next best thing ..
The 30-06 ,is a proven hunting cartrige been around since 1906 and still popular for a reason ..won't wear your barrel out and shoots up to bear stopping pieer 240 grain woodleigh bullets
When will it stop? Until you're using ray guns ?...hunting should be just that ..where it takes some sweat and effort to take home some game.
Shooting animals at a mile away takes everything personal out of the hunt.hunters today are just plain lazy
You aren't much if a hunter if you can't get within 6 football fields away from a deer or am elk and put some effort into the stalk .
They wanna sit with a 90 power spotting scope and kill animals at 1500 yds ..that is not hunting it's sniping .I have no respect t for that
You've stopped having the fair chase factor involved in hunting
Most of you couldn't even identify a deer or elk bed or hoe fresh a track is
Or how fresh scat is .
It'd just sad all these lazy ultra long range hunters have lost what hunting is all about .it's being 1 on 1 with nature and being on its terms
Amen brothe
It would have been good to have seen a list from reloading equipment and component companies.
I heard someone ask a guy at the bar "whats the best beer you ever had, guy says simple its the one in my hand". All I can say is when I go to the store, (Cabelas, Walmart, Academy, Bass Pro etc), I consistently see 308 and 270 ammo. That pretty much sums it up. If I were to be in a mood to buy a rifle it would unquestionably be in 308.
I own a few 270 win and a few 308 win. I like them both but it always seems that the 308’s are a bit finicky about ammo. Once you find ammo they like, they’re great. But all the 270’s I’ve had will shoot a bunch of different brands accurate.
That's all I see too, Well that and a butt load of .223 loads and a smattering of 6.5 cm offering. I wanted a .243 for predators & a occasional deer but since I don't hand load & haven't seen any .243 ammo in my local gun shops in 6 months or better I reckon I'll do the, " when in rome" deal and get the bipolar 6 & half "master of disaster" apollo creed .
interesting results based on what I see around my neck of the woods. Almost no rifles in 6.5PRC and zero ammo for them. 6.5 Creed rifles abound, with no ammo to feed them. Loads of 223/556 and 308 ammo, but no rifles to buy chambered in them.
I do believe the 300 wsm beats damn near everything for effcient whilst keeping power whats some of yalls favorite caliber ill tag whom ever says my fav and its not the 300 wsm tho ive come to love it
300wsm. And 270 wsm are both outstanding
I was looking at getting 6.5prc, but worried about how new it is. Glad to see it featured so much, hopefully means it will still be around in the future
Cool round but if you don't reload, Hornady 6.5 PRC ammo price is almost exactly twice the cost of 6.5 Creedmoor ammo. Not sure what the future holds, other than massive inflation, crappy gas prices, and expensive groceries.
@@accur81 the only ammo I could currently get is almost 5 hours labour for a box… so I’m not in a rush
Check out the .25-06 it is a laser beam
Excellent summary. The best sleeper round and my favorite deer round is the 7mm-08. It shoots flat with minimal recoil..
Ive shot a many a rifle in my day ! But........ nearly all of them have the same bullet drop at 300/ 400/ 500 / 600 yards. With a 200 zero 300 yards 7 inches 400 yards 14 inches 500 yards 35 inches 600 yards 72 inches.
👍🏻👍🏻 yes.
7-08 Remington has been my go to deer rifle for the past 5 years. Love it! Glad it has remained out of the public's eye
7-08 was always considered a "girl gun" around here. I have no idea why. I don't hunt much, but try to shoot when I can.
I went on an impromptu hunting trip with a buddy last year. I borrowed his loaner (intended for girls that he brings to his camp). I shot it twice the afternoon before. It was dead on.
I dropped the first buck that I had taken in years the next morning. It was about a 200 yard shot, which is kind of far in my area, for deer.
I got a model 700 in that caliber as soon as I got home. (And two boxes of ammo that I owed my buddy).
I love it. It's definitely an underestimated and underappreciated round. I hope that it never catches on. I have found ammo when everything else was pretty much wiped out on more than one occasion.
I was also eyeballing a nicely setup AR at my favorite gun store chambered in 7-08. It was a little bit out of my price range. When tax returns came in, I rushed to scoop it up. It was gone. My frickin boss had bought it the day before!
Why wouldn't you want it to be more popular (I own one fyi, it's great) ? In rifle cartridges, popularity equals more ammo, options and development and a future. What hurts a cartridge is not being popular. Try finding multiple options for.257 Roberts or .260 rem. Great calibers but not very popular so there's no reason for companies to put money into them.
@@letsdothis9063 Yeah, I've never shot one but it looks like a great cartridge. Every time I mention how good I think it is, someone says "Oh yeah, my daughter loves hers." 😒 Makes it seem less manly. I'm still tempted though. I also have hard kicking guns. I have nothing to prove.
@@rickyanke9407 I absolutely see your point. I loved my ex wifes .260. .260 is actually ballistically superior to 6.5 Creedmore. But, as you stated, it's almost impossible to find, and has limited offerings.
I was halfway kidding about the 7-08. But it does seem to be in that sweet spot as far as popularity goes. Like I said before, I have found it on shelf more than once, when .308 and 30-06 (two extremely popular and common cartridges) were picked clean.
I have a couple of guns that are chambered in .308. One is my "main" hunting rifle. During ammo scares, it gets scooped up really quick. The 7-08 is still there.
It's kind of like the old addage "you will always be able to find 9mm. It's everywhere".
During the last ammo shortage we all learned that's not necessarily the case. All of the popular rounds are the first to go when people start to panic buy.
Absolutely unreliable data!
Search engine optimization and custom rifle chamber inquiries means nothing, these findings yield small percentages.
Ammunition purchase data these days don't include what people actually want. If all you do is use factory ammunition then you're at the mercy of available ammunition therefore not reliable data.
7mm reloaders are screaming for available bullets! Bullet manufacturers don't seem to be offering 7mm bullets. Where are the 7mm bullets for 7mm-08 Remington, 7x57 Mauser and 280 Ackley Improved cartridge reloaders that are extremely popular?
.338 caliber rifle cartridges (338 Federal, 338-06 A-Square, 338 Winchester Magnum, 340 Weatherby Magnum, 338 RUM and 338 Lapua Magnum) to name a few are incredibly popular.
Rifle sales? Again firearm manufacturers are pushing the latest fad. Your findings have zero meaning.
6.5 Creedmoor along with your doomed 6.8 Western factory ammunition are meant for target shooting not big game. Long high BC bullets produced in factory 6.5 Creedmoor and 6.8 Western are not properly constructed bullets for taking big game.
I’m just happy to see the .22-250 making a come back into the modern day
I really hope to see 300prc more and more. Federal and Berger are supposed to have factory ammo coming to compete with Hornady. Really enjoy shooting that cartridge. I love my 6.5 creedmoor, 300 win mag and 308. Ammo for those seem to be no issue really to find
I was surprised the .270 Win. was no where to be seen .
Fantastic that you show results from more then one pole, multiple perspectives are great and not something many other channels do very well done sir 👏
Killed my elk this year with my new Weatherby in 6.5 PRC. Very pleased with it
Now tell us what's the best bullet for Elk
Pick 300 win mag so everybody and his brother knows you picked an Elk rifle
Now show us what's better nosler partition, Barnes X,swift A frame or something else
Thanks
The reason 308 is down in ammo sales, so many 308 users from the past have switched to 6.5 Creedmore, pushing that up and 308 down.
Explanation for low ammo sales for .308. I own a .308. I bought large quantities of ammo previously. I can afford to wait until the price normalizes.
7mm08 is a wonderful cartridge
Absolutely love my 308
I wonder if ammo sales are skewed simply because it’s so damn hard to find much of anything in certain calibers, and/or because hunting seasons are still months away?
7-08 needs more love. It just barely noses over 6.5CM in ballistics at shorter ranges. But nearly identical bullet drops with fantastic BC.
If I ever go to hunt paper I'll get a 6.5 CM. Until then I'd want something with more giddy up go. 6.5 /06 has more, but then I never did go for trends.
I just picked up a stainless BLR in 6.5creed yesterday. Ammo in my area is spotty as it sells so fast.
I'm most happy with the 6.8 western.
308 owners such as myself, stocked up on ammo a few years ago. There is a ton of 308 ammo now but it's way expensive. That is the reason 308 sales are down.👍
6.5 Creed will be at the top of sales as long as that is all that's available. That "meh" cartridge is being shoved down our collective throats. I was at a Scheels over 1/2 of the rifles there were 6.5 Creed. Trying to find something useful like a 7mm.08 or 25.06 is difficult at best.
100%
.308 is better than 6.5 in knockdown power under 500 yards. Show me someone that can effectively take advantage of the 6.5 Creedmoor past 500 yards and I'll happily tell them to buy one. But I'll stick to .308
Proof?
@@malachiwhite356 you've got me in a bind, can I PROVE anything to you? Probably not. But the performance metric you're looking for is ft/lbs and its a widely recognized method of measuring energy, separate from penetration or accuracy. Plenty of sources available that will illustrate my claim. The .308 exceeds the 6.5 creed in ft/lbs out to approximately 500 yards. Which, is further than the common rifleman has the skills/equipment to exceed.
@@brianrees2837 I agree with all your points, and yes I am familiar with foot-pounds as a method of measuring the kinetic energy of a moving object. However, I dispute the assertion that it is closely related to killing ability or "knockdown power," that's all. Energy is not well correlated to effects on game, despite attempts by gunwriters to claim otherwise, but it's all we've got.
6.5 creedmoor is a great round. it's just very annoying to me that gun stores have nothing but 6.5cm rifles on the wall but they have 0 6.5cm ammo. meanwhile while i was looking for a new 308 rifle none of the ones i wanted were in stock but there was shelves full of the ammo
Plus you have to grow a man button when you get a 6.5 Creedmoor
30-06 will always kicking ass and taking names .
As more people start using the 6.8 Western it will move way up. By far one of the most accurate calibers I have ever shot.
White kind of rifle you using?
@@abrahammoreno6946 Browning X-Bolt
Haha that's awesome. I still call it the "man bun" cartridge and probably always will, however I have shot one and I honestly can't say I didn't fall in love with it. Definitely will probably end up owning one before my ticker stops ticking 🤙🏻
Man bun? I thought it was called a douche knot.
ammo sales could be an obsolete factor. theres only certain ammo being produced, on average. if the state of affairs were normal and all ammo were being produced i could see this as a factor. people are just buying up whatever they can. heck, youre buying rifles only because of available ammo these days
They need to do a 7mm prc in the 6.5 prc case and elongate the cartridge just enough for 1 grain more powder.
I’ll be honest I got a custom rifle chambered in 6.5 cm and the hornady 143 eldx factory ammo shoots just as good if not better than anything I’ve been able to load for it.
100% I also think 6.5 creed is so popular cause it’s a great hunting cartridge.
Jes
Same
Just the ammo cost comparable to .308 makes me cry. I bought my first hunting rifle in 6.5 and I've slightly regretted it. Nothing I personally will be doing can't be done with .308 but, I went with the better cartridge for range anyways...
That final list is odd. How did 5.56 score so low? More people have that caliber than 6.5.
If I were to go custom, 284 win or 7LRM or a 330 Dakota. These of course are for different purposes.
I’m surprised 308 is that low on ammo sales, whenever I go look for ammo 223 and 308 are the only ones there have been reliably in stock.
I think he is going by online sales according to his blog. Most people buy at stores. .223/.308 is easy to find here in DFW TX. 6.5 cr .300 blk are twice the price and rare, never seen 6.5 prc since COVID,
Exactly! They are there because people aren't buying them as much. Creedmoor or PRC ammo hits the self and it's gone.
Me too. I moved almost exclusively to 308 and 9mm due to ammo availability/cost. I see a lot of 308/7.62 moving online.
I wonder if he included 7.62x51 sales in that figure. My guess is no
I'm amazed the 270 win isn't on any list?!?!!? Wow
6.5 prc is definitely the new cool kid and well deserving of it, it’s brand new but there is so much to like, it’s a bit of a barrel burner if loading light and fast but is a superb cartridge.
1000-1500 rounds before it burnt honestly I'll never see the day my PRC loses accuracy. It's a bench rifle not a 30 rd mag dump gun.
6:47 Talking about why 308 isn't higher on the list... my guess is raw availability. Man, I havent bought a box of 308 in quite a while now because all that's left to buy is the insanely expesive $5+/shot rounds. Even when I was "moderately ok" with buying them factory at $2.50/shot for a box of 20, I'm now looking at reloading equipment and just re-using the brass i've kept so far
Maybe you're talking Buffalo Bore, which is $48? Even then it's still only the same price as the 6.5 brands below. I'd assume if they pushed out 6.5's they'd be at least $59.
@@IcarusErm I re-read my comment and forgot to mention these are CAD prices, my bad.
Each time iv'e visited a local sporting goods store or sports section of a store, the ammunition for 308 is nearly empty and the only stuff available is the $60-$85 (before taxes) boxes of 20. No Federal Power Shoks, no Hornady White Tail, etc. I found exactly one box of Winchester super x power points for $45 and briefly considered it. As well as box of 50 rounds of GECO sport grade for $120 before tax :\ Those were the best deals i've found lately in my neighbordhoods.
I admit it could be im just late to the party? Here in Canada at least, thanks to the new registry stuff there's been a hard push for people to get their non-restricted rifles and buy up the ammo to feed it for a while
Glad to see the tried and true 243W made it on the final list, but I honestly am surprised that the 300 Norma Magnum didn't make the "custom rifle builders" list.
Stunned and amazed that the 30-30 and .270 Winchesters didn't make any lists. Just a few years ago, they were in the top five and had been for decades. I would really like to hear somebody explain that.
if its an international listing there is a massive reason why 30 30 and 270 aren't on there.
@@WayStedYou That would make sense. In U.S. stores I visit, .270 is very plentiful, but 30-30 has gotten scarce.
Right? Tgere are 2 different 6.5 on the list but no 30-30 winchesters. I promise you there are more 30-30 winchester chambered rifles in the world than any 6.5
What about that 6.5-300 weatherby in the titanium weatherby for that sheep hunt? The optic is the hardest choice for that. I think there’s a March 3-20 at like 22 oz. You could just stick with a Leupold mark 3 as well to save more weight.
The absolute Joy of these cartridges is that they are all very effective for their intended purpose. Outstanding!!
Interesting. I would have thought 30-30 Winchester would have been there somewhere. It's taken more deer in North America than any other cartridge according to most sources. I've always had a 30-30 in my collection.
I love 30-30 as well and it definitely still has its place due to all the win model 94's still in action. But I saw ammo yesterday for 40 a box for the federal blue box! Ugh!
I think 6.5 Precision Rifle Cartridge will never get really common. 6.5 x 49 Creedmoor, .308 Winchester, .300 Winchester Magnum, 7 millimeter Remington Magnum and 30-06 already fill the role. I would avoid that rifle cartridge unless you like paying too much for rifle rounds.
I do not really like .243 Winchester either as once you fire 3,000 rounds through a rifle, the barrel is burned out. Go with 6.5 x 49 Creedmoor over .243 Winchester in my opinion.
if you ever get around to it, could you review a glass bedded M1A Scout Squad used to tag an Elk...
if Elk is a bit out of your reach, Deer then.
Please cover preferred ammo weight, etc.
(lead free) right ? lol
I'm surprised to see the 30-06 slip!
The 308, Creedmore, and 6.5 PRC...
As short action cartridges go....
These would be number one...
In long action, 30-06... maybe 7mm magnum, then 270.
These would be my pick
300 Magnums kick too much.
But for me personally...
358 Winchester, or a 6.5x55...
Let’s gooooo 6.8 western
The other most popular calibers you will find ammo and rifles for nearly everywhere are .270 Win, .350 Legend, 7mm-08 Rem, .22-250 Rem, .270 WSM, .300 WSM, .30-30 Win, 25-06 Rem, .17 HMR, .22WMR, .45-70 Gov. Smaller country gun stores, off the beaten path will have most of the calibers you mention, but these are the others on the shelf more often than not.
Things have changed. When i started hunting 30-06, 30-30, .243,.270, and .308 were by far the most popular rifles. Only one makes the list these days.
If they made the semi auto 30-06 M1 Garand brand new and able to shoot modern 30-06 ammo would now be best used for deer hunting in hog country when going to the stand or blind. I used to carry a bolt action 30-06 til my stand one morning was surrounded by hogs and per state regs only had a 5 round mag today an AK with suppressor is my best friend when out for a walk on my property on any day.
I'm not sure the custom rifle list is a good metric. Another list that would be interesting (but nearly impossible to compile) would be a list of custom rifle (or stock rifle) chamberings that people eventually have re-chambered to something else. I've heard .28 Nosler is a very common round for people to have re-chambered because it wasn't what they expected, or because they felt the price of components and ammo was too costly and/or component selection and availability was too limiting. Same goes for other PRC/Weatherby/Creedmoor/whatever rounds as well. From gunsmiths I have talked to, those rounds have a higher percentage of people having them changed to something else over time. So, while a list can be compiled for custom rifle sales, it's not really a true indicator of customer satisfaction and true popularity. Because how truly popular are any one of those rounds if they have a higher incidence of being re-chambered?
As far as ammo and rifle sales, I am actually surprised more people are buying more .30-06 than .308. Given the amount of platforms that .308 is available in, I would have assumed .308 would be selling more than .30-06 on a sheer volume basis. Especially given there seemed to be a bit more of an ammo shortage with .30-06 than .308 during the pandemic. As a .30-06 fan myself, seeing it outsell .308 is actually kind of heart-warming and reassuring in a way, given that .30-06 is pretty much a hunting-only round, which really goes to show just how popular it still is with hunters. It's just perennially a great and effective round for so many species and applications.
22lr is so common because that's what everyone starts their kids on, and it's kind of a must have cartridge for varmint hunting.
I’d have to dispute this. I work in a gun store and 6.5 cm rifles sit on the shelf. People constantly ask when we’re getting 308s in. We barely have 6.5 ammo available- not bc it’s being sold out BUT we’re NOT getting it sent from corporate - 308 is stacked high and we’re selling it constantly. Now this is a single data point presented by me but I’m hearing the same thing from out of staters. I was going to jump on the 6.5 train but my next rifle is going to be a 308.
For what is worth
We have a small Taxidermist shop
Tuskegee Alabama
And for the last (2) years
Most deer have been killed 308
More or less 30-06 and 6.5 together second place
I would not go by ammo sales for 1 simple fact. I always found 308 ammo on the shelfs thru the pandemic but rarely any other cartridge never seen any of the 6.5's which are supper popular here where i live. Now that the ammo makers are back up and running, ammo is back on the shelfs what are the calibers you are finding on the shelfs. Basically 6.5 CM, 308, 223/556, 9mm 40sw ect. The point is the ammo makers are making ammo for the guns and calibers that are being sold not so much as to whats out their. I didnt see 30-06 on the shelf for 2 years till this past deer season here where i live. Where i live the 06 has always been very popular same with the 270. I'd go by whats selling the most as far as actual gun sales.
Well I guess i need a 2nd rifle in .300 win. mag it fits just the spot between ja between everything, while the .308 after 500m shows some weakness
.308 sales are probably lower because if you shoot a common .308 you have a stock pile already and not willing to paying up to $30-$50 a box. I haven’t bought .308 rounds in years and won’t until prices get reasonable again. I can last mother few years on my stock.
If find this hard to believe may at that time and those type of rifle and for a short span of data.last year I stood in lines at gun and amo many times and could not get 556 308 at all proc or tremors were sold out and most others but 556 308 were selling bullets hundred per sale or like me 1000 because of the type of uses.but still 22rl by the brick would have to be number one and the9 mm for hand gun and carbine
In Europe we are going led free soon. On the British fieldsports Channel they tested the led free 22lr and they saw That it is Not accurate at all. Ist This Trend the end of the 22lr? What small caliber would be an accurate led free caliber (22mag, 22hornet, .17,…) could you test it?
I'm sick of mfg chambering the same 4-6 cartridges because they're all the hot-thing on the web. There's no variety available because of social media and capitalism. Yay.
6.5 CM? Bull cookies. Of course that is YOUR favorite so it has to be #1. I think your numbers and choices are 💩.
That list of rifle sales explains the high numbers of used 300 Win Mag for sale used. Too damn much rifle for most folks. I always wonder who’s putting them into that caliber…
So many people buy the hype! 6mm Remington ballistics beat 6.5’s and .243’s. Too bad you can’t buy 6mm Remington ammo anymore.
Surprised how many in the US don't reload. Must be more hunters/more casual shooters. In the UK most people reload but factory ammunition is also expensive.
Guilty. Just bought a first rifle in 6.5cm.
If 6.5 prc, have fun with the 1000 round barrel life
Why don’t you talk about ammo you get now it’s bad enough just trying to find 270,30-06 and even 308 good luck with all these new ones
When I had my 6.5 prc I couldn’t find ammo for it so I traded it off, now I see ammo every where. I just picked up a 243 and no one had ammo for it, did score a couple of boxes.