Stop by my channel any time and leave a comment if you want some sparring or advice on a specific climbing backpack - not that I know them all, haha, but I have been climbing with quite a few or some of my friends might have an opinion 😄
Perfec content! Ortovox Trad should be in the line-up. Light and packable daypack, huge advantage is 3/4 zip allowing quick acces to stuff at the bottom, I dont know why just few producers make such solution (Blue Ice), it is more than useful! Also Simond Sprint 33 is decent and cheaper alternative for Alpha FL30. I did small upgrades - velcro on closing extension skirt and press-stud for waterbag straps - now is perfect. Heavy duty workhorse - no other choice than Montano EXTREM - never let me down, BOMBPROOF piece of gear.
Nice! Sounds like a really great setup! I saw the Ortovox Trad in Chamonix last time I visited the valley. It looks and feels like a really great pack. I haven't tried the Simond Sprint 33 though :)
Osprey variant 55 or 45 are awesome. Brain comes off reducing it to 45 or 35 respectively. Holds skis or snowshoes, tools, poles and rope! Removable frame and is great for up to 3 days in the backcountry in the summer
Nicholas Budka I actually considered the Osprey Variant as my ski pack for ski touring, but went with the Gregory Targhee instead. Both packs have plenty of features!
Cragcloud I got mine for a steal, i use it in the northeastern united states for everything in summer and winter. I would love a slightly smaller pack for less committing things though
@@ClimbingADK Yeah, I guess 35 liters a bit much for one day stuff. My Gregory Targhee is the 32 liter backpack, and I think it is too big and heavy for half day/one day ski touring, so I often just ride with my Black Diamond Dawn Patrol 15 liter backpack, which fits my shovel, probe, water, snacks, first aid kit and some extra clothing.
Thank you, Philio Lynott 😄 I actually uset to own the Osprey Mutant 28, but sold it again as I found it too heavy. But, it is really feature rich. Osprey have released a new version, and I am actually considering giving that a go 😄
Alpha FL 30, New DragonFly 25 from blue ice. Minimalist, Lightweight (below 600g), and functional. Don't need a 40L. I can even fit my Bivy bag (elephant leg), stove, and all the alpine equipment, so 30L it's more than enough when sleeping in a hut.
Matthieu S I really agree! I rarely bring a langer bag than my Arc’teryx Alpha FL 30 with me when alpine climbing. I actually only bring my Gregory Alpinisto 50 if I need to carry a tent and set up a base camp somewhere.
Nice video! For ice climbing and long rock climbing I am partial to the Cold Cold World Valdez. For alpine climbing the Wild Things Andinista has always done well by me.
Thank you David! Ahh, I would really like to visit Valdez once! :) I have never heard of Wild Things before, but I just google the Andinista and it seems like a solid pack. Maybe it is because we don't see a lot of the american brands overhere in Europe.
Nice video with essentials. My best climbing pack is KAILS Aether 30L. Made from Cuben material. 100% waterproof. Very functional and only 700g weight.
Thanks, Mariusz! I have never heard of that climbing pack before - they look really cool though. They resemble Hyperlight Mountain Gear packs a bit in its lightweight abilities :)
I m using the exped black ice 30 for pretty much any mountaineering outing - Very similar to the FL 30 but overall better design IMHO, you can carry skis with it as well
Yeah, I lack that on the Arc’teryx Alpha FL 30/45 series. You can get some extra equipment though, so you can attach. I have some friends who actually climb with the Exped Black Ice 30 and they are really satisfied too 😄
Great to hear! It is actually an older version of the Mammut Trion (50?) that is in the video. The Mammut Trion series are definitely good climbing backpacks too 😄
Very good packs, light and versatile. My other half uses an Osprey Mutant 38, she loves it! Looking forward to seeing more of your series, we find them very useful 👍
Thank very much, Scotty 😁 I used to own the Osprey Mutant 28, the smaller version. I found it a bit hard packing and a bit too small, but I would imagine the Osprey Mutant 38 is better. One of my friends have that size too, and she really diggs it! 😄 I like the versatility, the build quality, design and that it has so many features for various purposes - so it really is a great all round alpine climbing backpack 😄
Thanks Miguel! 😄 The Patagonia Ascentionist is a fantastisk backpack series. It looks super sturdy and have a lot of practical features. I haven’t tried it in action through
You are right that the Black Diamond Speed 40 is a really great all-round climbing backpack! It has a lot of great features at a really reasonable price :)
Ik I'm a bit late on this but I like to go with a bag that my sponsor supplies me with. I use this pack for when I go climbing generally a expedition www.macpac.com.au/packs/macpac-sentinel-50l-aztec-alpine-pack-/115377.html?cgid=packs#prefn1=brand&prefv1=Macpac&start=64&sz=12 And this pack when just doing a day hike or a guided Ice climbing trip www.macpac.com.au/packs/macpac-sentinel-50l-aztec-alpine-pack-/115377.html?cgid=packs#prefn1=brand&prefv1=Macpac&start=64&sz=12
Cragcloud highly recommend them I do a lot of hiking along side with my son and once their equipment saved his life from hypothermia. If you like hiking as well they have nice stuff just with down jackets their selves are long (they make it longer so you can roll them up too give you more warmth) for ice climbing I’ll recommend the icefall for you water resistance treated down and you can put a rain jacket on top of it gets wet but I used that in heavy snow 4 cm in 30 minutes and I was fine (really depends where you are going)
In Slovakia, where I’m living we don’t have many abilities to purchase arcteryx backpack for example what is quite sad because I really wish to have backpack from them. But quite common here is Deuter Guide 35...
What a shame 😕 Can you buy online? I have the same issue here in Denmark. Most outdoor shops only carry Osprey, The North Face, LoweAlpine or Haglöfs - and the assortment is pretty narrow, and definitely not climbing oriented. So, I have to go online
Cragcloud Yes I can, I also buy most of the things online. But with backpack you really need to try it... And I’m still just student and shipping from abroad will be quit expensive i guess...
I have 3 bags from Cilo Gear a 60L+ and 2 -20L. The 20's are great for multi pitch rock climbing. The 60+ with its plastic frame sheet is awesome for lugging gear around but it's no good for climbing. I think I need something in the 30-45L range.
NIce! I haven't really seen much of Cilo Gear packs here in Europe. I would agree though, that climbing with a 60 liters climbing backpack is too big. I even think that my Gregory Alpinisto 50 is too big!
Thanks for such an informative video,🤗 Im actually about to buy a back pack for a 2days Montblanc climbing ( in a normal mountaineering way). Since Im not a very tall girl big rucksacks are not very easy to carry for me. Could you please recommend me a proper size and brand to buy? Many thanks in advance!
Hi Schirin Sh. Thank you 😊 There are a lot of different options. I can recommend Osprey as they make women’s backpacks that are tailored for the women physic. How tall are you? ☺️
@@Iran_Folk Hi! Not sure if you're still looking for a pack but Ortovox has short torso versions for many of their mountaineering packs for women or short torso guys (like me). Haven't tried them but worth checking them out.
Hi Wojciech! I haven’t actually tried the Millet Prolighter Summit 28 in real life, but based on pictures and reviews it seems pretty solid! I like that it has a proper detachable hip belt, somethings that the Arc’teryx Alpha FL 30 lacks. The Millet also looks like it has some more storage features. What the Arc’teryx Alpha FL 30 has the the Millet pack looks like is lacking is the elastic string to store crampons - and I really like that.
@@Cragcloud Thanks for a quick response. I am looking for a one ultimate backpack that would be good for a day of cragging, multipich and maybe alpine. A backpack that is easily accessible, not too big and can carry the rope outside. I watched many backpack videos and brands lately. Do i need to have multiple backpacks? Thinking about Otrovox Trad 25, Millet Prolighter Summit 28, Patagonia Linked 18, Black Diamond 20 Creek and Blue Ice Squirrel 22l. What do you recon?
I think the Millet Prolighter looks great for most stuff. If you are doing multi-day alpine climbing or trad climbing and need to carry more gear, then you could add a larger pack like a 40 or 50 litre backpack. I use the Gregory Alpinisto 50 that you can strip down to bare minimum. That is great! You could also take a look at the Black Diamond Speed backpacks. They are great too 😄
What do you guys thing about Ortovox Trad 33? I'm considering to give it a try for multipitch climbing as well as for mountaineering. What's your thoughts?
It looks really nice! I am currently in Arco and saw it in one of the shops. It looks really durable and with the right set of features for both rock and alpine climbing 😄
Actually, one of my friends hike with a HMG pack and he is really satisfied with it. I haven’t tried climbing with one, but it seems pretty modular. Do you have experience?
Not with climbing. It's something I'm considering. I've climbed Mt. St. Helens and Mt. Adams in Washington. I definitely plan to do Mt. Ranier and Denali. I used an HMG pack and tent for my AT thru-hike and for my trip to Washington. I love their products but wondered if there were better options for ice climbing.
Actually now I’m thinking about to buying a new one. I’m deciding between deuter guide 35+ or ortovox peak 35. What are your thoughts on these two? Thank you
I’ve only hear positive things about the Ortovox and they are prima quality! I am actually looking at one of their backpacks in their ski touring series 😄
Taking my first course in Chamonix next year, first time learning to climb. I only have about 5 different packs for backpacking... Any recommendation for a first time user of a climbing pack?
Good to hear that you are taken a course in Chamonix! That is the right decision to get into alpine climbing. Definitely! For one-day alpine climbing I would recommend the Arc'teryx Alpha FL 30 or the Black Diamond Speed 30. Both are good alpine climbing packs that has the critical features. They both sit quite high and close to your back and has a slim design. They both have a simple strap hip belt, so it is not getting in the way for your climbing harness. And they are both pretty light weight, but still made from durable material. I would say though that the Arc'teryx Alpha FL 30 has a more durable and more water repellent fabric than the Black Diamond Speed 30. They also both have easy attachment points for your ice axes. The Black Diamond Speed 30 is the cheapest of the two. Lowe Alpine also makes good alpine climbing packs, but I am not that familiar with them. I wouldn't go over 30 liters for a one-day alpine ascent.
Correction: A Hip belt does take away 20% of the load off of your SPINE (not your knees). In order to unload your knees, a "hip belt" would need to be attached to your lower leg, which I would say is rather unpleasant and aside from that pretty dangerous I suppose
MeTube HD I would probably say that depends on what you are climbing. If you are climbing where you can sleep on a ledge in summer and you wouldn’t mind sleeping without a sleeping bag, then you would probably be fine, but an overnight climb includes a lot of extra gear like sleeping bag, mattress, potentially a bivy bag too, and extra food and water. Try packing your bag with the stuff you want to bring and see if it fits ☺️ I would probably go with something around the 33 L range. In some teams the lead climber carries a lighter pack and the second a heavier pack with all the bulky stuff. You could also consider this tactic 😄
Awesome video and a nice guide to the climbing backpacks!
Thank you very much Loran! Any particular climbing backpack you are looking for?
Not at the moment, but now I know where to look for advice, when I will be looking :)
Stop by my channel any time and leave a comment if you want some sparring or advice on a specific climbing backpack - not that I know them all, haha, but I have been climbing with quite a few or some of my friends might have an opinion 😄
Never seen a better one : lafuma guide ...45 liters,.detacheble hip belt, pocket for snow shovel, and so on. But now 25 years ago..still perfect!
I haven’t heard of that brand. The backpacks look pretty nice though 😄 Thank you for the tip, Gert
Really nice video and really awesome drone footage! Looks absolutely amazing!
Thank you very much, OutdoorDrone!
Perfec content! Ortovox Trad should be in the line-up. Light and packable daypack, huge advantage is 3/4 zip allowing quick acces to stuff at the bottom, I dont know why just few producers make such solution (Blue Ice), it is more than useful! Also Simond Sprint 33 is decent and cheaper alternative for Alpha FL30. I did small upgrades - velcro on closing extension skirt and press-stud for waterbag straps - now is perfect. Heavy duty workhorse - no other choice than Montano EXTREM - never let me down, BOMBPROOF piece of gear.
Nice! Sounds like a really great setup! I saw the Ortovox Trad in Chamonix last time I visited the valley. It looks and feels like a really great pack. I haven't tried the Simond Sprint 33 though :)
Osprey variant 55 or 45 are awesome. Brain comes off reducing it to 45 or 35 respectively. Holds skis or snowshoes, tools, poles and rope! Removable frame and is great for up to 3 days in the backcountry in the summer
Nicholas Budka I actually considered the Osprey Variant as my ski pack for ski touring, but went with the Gregory Targhee instead. Both packs have plenty of features!
Cragcloud I got mine for a steal, i use it in the northeastern united states for everything in summer and winter. I would love a slightly smaller pack for less committing things though
@@ClimbingADK Yeah, I guess 35 liters a bit much for one day stuff. My Gregory Targhee is the 32 liter backpack, and I think it is too big and heavy for half day/one day ski touring, so I often just ride with my Black Diamond Dawn Patrol 15 liter backpack, which fits my shovel, probe, water, snacks, first aid kit and some extra clothing.
Amazing quality, very informative!
I'm going to Mont blanc and think i'll be going for the Osprey mutant 38!
Thanks!
Thank you, Philio Lynott 😄
I actually uset to own the Osprey Mutant 28, but sold it again as I found it too heavy. But, it is really feature rich. Osprey have released a new version, and I am actually considering giving that a go 😄
Great vid! I’ve being using the Osprey mutant 38 and it’s just lovely.
That is also a great pack! I used to own the 22 litre version, but switched to the bigger Arc’teryx Alpha FL 30 😄
Alpha FL 30, New DragonFly 25 from blue ice. Minimalist, Lightweight (below 600g), and functional. Don't need a 40L. I can even fit my Bivy bag (elephant leg), stove, and all the alpine equipment, so 30L it's more than enough when sleeping in a hut.
Matthieu S I really agree! I rarely bring a langer bag than my Arc’teryx Alpha FL 30 with me when alpine climbing. I actually only bring my Gregory Alpinisto 50 if I need to carry a tent and set up a base camp somewhere.
Nice video! For ice climbing and long rock climbing I am partial to the Cold Cold World Valdez. For alpine climbing the Wild Things Andinista has always done well by me.
Thank you David! Ahh, I would really like to visit Valdez once! :)
I have never heard of Wild Things before, but I just google the Andinista and it seems like a solid pack. Maybe it is because we don't see a lot of the american brands overhere in Europe.
Nice video with essentials. My best climbing pack is KAILS Aether 30L. Made from Cuben material. 100% waterproof. Very functional and only 700g weight.
Thanks, Mariusz! I have never heard of that climbing pack before - they look really cool though. They resemble Hyperlight Mountain Gear packs a bit in its lightweight abilities :)
Awesome video I really want to see you climb Everest dude
I m using the exped black ice 30 for pretty much any mountaineering outing - Very similar to the FL 30 but overall better design IMHO, you can carry skis with it as well
Yeah, I lack that on the Arc’teryx Alpha FL 30/45 series. You can get some extra equipment though, so you can attach. I have some friends who actually climb with the Exped Black Ice 30 and they are really satisfied too 😄
I like the Simond Alpinist 33l.
denis lejeune I just had to google that one, haha! I know Simond from the big Decathlon stores. It seems like a really nice climbing pack!
I use the Mammut Trion Light 38, ticks all the boxes for me. Very informative video 👍
Great to hear! It is actually an older version of the Mammut Trion (50?) that is in the video. The Mammut Trion series are definitely good climbing backpacks too 😄
Very good packs, light and versatile. My other half uses an Osprey Mutant 38, she loves it! Looking forward to seeing more of your series, we find them very useful 👍
Thank very much, Scotty 😁
I used to own the Osprey Mutant 28, the smaller version. I found it a bit hard packing and a bit too small, but I would imagine the Osprey Mutant 38 is better. One of my friends have that size too, and she really diggs it! 😄 I like the versatility, the build quality, design and that it has so many features for various purposes - so it really is a great all round alpine climbing backpack 😄
just in case, how about the Patagonia Ascecionist 30L? Your videos are amazing. Congrats!!!
Thanks Miguel! 😄 The Patagonia Ascentionist is a fantastisk backpack series. It looks super sturdy and have a lot of practical features. I haven’t tried it in action through
Nice video dude. Osprey Variant 52 for ice tools and 3-4 days of hiking, why is not available any more in the web? any idea?
I like Grivel Air Tech 28... seen in this clip at 2:38
That is also a really nice pack. Climbed with it for a few seasons, but switched it with the Gregory Alpinisto 😄
black diamond speed 40. Best all rounder.
You are right that the Black Diamond Speed 40 is a really great all-round climbing backpack! It has a lot of great features at a really reasonable price :)
im so used to my 22l and 28 l than looking for more size its very dificutl
Ik I'm a bit late on this but I like to go with a bag that my sponsor supplies me with. I use this pack for when I go climbing generally a expedition www.macpac.com.au/packs/macpac-sentinel-50l-aztec-alpine-pack-/115377.html?cgid=packs#prefn1=brand&prefv1=Macpac&start=64&sz=12
And this pack when just doing a day hike or a guided Ice climbing trip www.macpac.com.au/packs/macpac-sentinel-50l-aztec-alpine-pack-/115377.html?cgid=packs#prefn1=brand&prefv1=Macpac&start=64&sz=12
Those looks like pretty nice packs too! I have never heard of Macpac though. Is that an Australian brand?
Cragcloud Australian and New Zealand founded in New Zealand tho
gamehuntee1990 cool! They look great 😄
Cragcloud they make anything from walking around town to mountaineering in the most extreme conditions
Cragcloud highly recommend them I do a lot of hiking along side with my son and once their equipment saved his life from hypothermia. If you like hiking as well they have nice stuff just with down jackets their selves are long (they make it longer so you can roll them up too give you more warmth) for ice climbing I’ll recommend the icefall for you water resistance treated down and you can put a rain jacket on top of it gets wet but I used that in heavy snow 4 cm in 30 minutes and I was fine (really depends where you are going)
In Slovakia, where I’m living we don’t have many abilities to purchase arcteryx backpack for example what is quite sad because I really wish to have backpack from them. But quite common here is Deuter Guide 35...
What a shame 😕 Can you buy online? I have the same issue here in Denmark. Most outdoor shops only carry Osprey, The North Face, LoweAlpine or Haglöfs - and the assortment is pretty narrow, and definitely not climbing oriented. So, I have to go online
Cragcloud Yes I can, I also buy most of the things online. But with backpack you really need to try it... And I’m still just student and shipping from abroad will be quit expensive i guess...
I have 3 bags from Cilo Gear a 60L+ and 2 -20L. The 20's are great for multi pitch rock climbing. The 60+ with its plastic frame sheet is awesome for lugging gear around but it's no good for climbing. I think I need something in the 30-45L range.
NIce! I haven't really seen much of Cilo Gear packs here in Europe. I would agree though, that climbing with a 60 liters climbing backpack is too big. I even think that my Gregory Alpinisto 50 is too big!
Thanks for such an informative video,🤗 Im actually about to buy a back pack for a 2days Montblanc climbing ( in a normal mountaineering way). Since Im not a very tall girl big rucksacks are not very easy to carry for me. Could you please recommend me a proper size and brand to buy?
Many thanks in advance!
Hi Schirin Sh. Thank you 😊 There are a lot of different options. I can recommend Osprey as they make women’s backpacks that are tailored for the women physic. How tall are you? ☺️
Cragcloud Thanks a lot☺️🙏🏼
Im only 160cm. Is there an advice for the sizing as well?
@@Iran_Folk Hi! Not sure if you're still looking for a pack but Ortovox has short torso versions for many of their mountaineering packs for women or short torso guys (like me). Haven't tried them but worth checking them out.
@@raimundolanas4273 thank u :)
using the mountain equipment tupilak 50-75
That is also a really good pack!
Nice video! How would you compare Millet Prolighter Summit 28 to yours Arcteryx 30?
Hi Wojciech! I haven’t actually tried the Millet Prolighter Summit 28 in real life, but based on pictures and reviews it seems pretty solid!
I like that it has a proper detachable hip belt, somethings that the Arc’teryx Alpha FL 30 lacks. The Millet also looks like it has some more storage features.
What the Arc’teryx Alpha FL 30 has the the Millet pack looks like is lacking is the elastic string to store crampons - and I really like that.
@@Cragcloud Thanks for a quick response. I am looking for a one ultimate backpack that would be good for a day of cragging, multipich and maybe alpine. A backpack that is easily accessible, not too big and can carry the rope outside. I watched many backpack videos and brands lately. Do i need to have multiple backpacks?
Thinking about Otrovox Trad 25, Millet Prolighter Summit 28, Patagonia Linked 18, Black Diamond 20 Creek and Blue Ice Squirrel 22l.
What do you recon?
I think the Millet Prolighter looks great for most stuff. If you are doing multi-day alpine climbing or trad climbing and need to carry more gear, then you could add a larger pack like a 40 or 50 litre backpack.
I use the Gregory Alpinisto 50 that you can strip down to bare minimum. That is great! You could also take a look at the Black Diamond Speed backpacks. They are great too 😄
What do you guys thing about Ortovox Trad 33? I'm considering to give it a try for multipitch climbing as well as for mountaineering. What's your thoughts?
It looks really nice! I am currently in Arco and saw it in one of the shops. It looks really durable and with the right set of features for both rock and alpine climbing 😄
Have you or any of your subscribers tried Hyperlite Mountain Gear's ice climbing pack?
Actually, one of my friends hike with a HMG pack and he is really satisfied with it. I haven’t tried climbing with one, but it seems pretty modular. Do you have experience?
Not with climbing. It's something I'm considering. I've climbed Mt. St. Helens and Mt. Adams in Washington. I definitely plan to do Mt. Ranier and Denali. I used an HMG pack and tent for my AT thru-hike and for my trip to Washington. I love their products but wondered if there were better options for ice climbing.
Actually now I’m thinking about to buying a new one. I’m deciding between deuter guide 35+ or ortovox peak 35. What are your thoughts on these two? Thank you
I’ve only hear positive things about the Ortovox and they are prima quality! I am actually looking at one of their backpacks in their ski touring series 😄
Brilliant thank you ❤️🇦🇺😃
You’re welcome 😊
Taking my first course in Chamonix next year, first time learning to climb. I only have about 5 different packs for backpacking... Any recommendation for a first time user of a climbing pack?
Good to hear that you are taken a course in Chamonix! That is the right decision to get into alpine climbing.
Definitely! For one-day alpine climbing I would recommend the Arc'teryx Alpha FL 30 or the Black Diamond Speed 30. Both are good alpine climbing packs that has the critical features. They both sit quite high and close to your back and has a slim design. They both have a simple strap hip belt, so it is not getting in the way for your climbing harness. And they are both pretty light weight, but still made from durable material. I would say though that the Arc'teryx Alpha FL 30 has a more durable and more water repellent fabric than the Black Diamond Speed 30. They also both have easy attachment points for your ice axes. The Black Diamond Speed 30 is the cheapest of the two. Lowe Alpine also makes good alpine climbing packs, but I am not that familiar with them. I wouldn't go over 30 liters for a one-day alpine ascent.
@@Cragcloud thank you for the ideas!
wlcrutch you are welcome 😄 Let me know what you decide on 😄
Correction: A Hip belt does take away 20% of the load off of your SPINE (not your knees). In order to unload your knees, a "hip belt" would need to be attached to your lower leg, which I would say is rather unpleasant and aside from that pretty dangerous I suppose
What kind of video editing software do you use?
Hi Alex! 😄 I ude Adobe Premiere Pro
Is 22L backpack good for an overnight trip?
MeTube HD I would probably say that depends on what you are climbing. If you are climbing where you can sleep on a ledge in summer and you wouldn’t mind sleeping without a sleeping bag, then you would probably be fine, but an overnight climb includes a lot of extra gear like sleeping bag, mattress, potentially a bivy bag too, and extra food and water. Try packing your bag with the stuff you want to bring and see if it fits ☺️ I would probably go with something around the 33 L range.
In some teams the lead climber carries a lighter pack and the second a heavier pack with all the bulky stuff. You could also consider this tactic 😄
@@Cragcloudthanks,, I should try this tactic 😁
@@metubehd You are welcome :) Let me know what you think once you have tried it.
@@Cragcloud Sorry for delay.
I will
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Thanks :D